Freelance

[Anonymous No.6660383]

How tf do you get freelance work? Do I need a million followers on twitter first? Do I send in my portfolio to companies? Do I have to shill myself at conventions?

I want to be a comic artist, but any advice on freelancing is appreciated

[Anonymous No.6660388]

>>6660383
Just bee yourself :)

[Anonymous No.6660396]

/ic told me you dont need to be good at art so really its all about networking marketing and ass kissing

[Anonymous No.6660556]

>>6660388
>>6660396
I guess we don't really have any freelancers on this board, do we?

[Anonymous No.6660575]

no, you just post on 4chan and the magical art pixies send subliminal messages to corpo suits to send you money
you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6660580]

>>6660575
you're not as smart as you think you are, retard

[Anonymous No.6660585]

>>6660580
you’re not as smart as you think I am

[Anonymous No.6660588]

>>6660585
you need to be 18 to post on this board, buddy

[Anonymous No.6660600]

>>6660588
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.6660603]

>>6660600
I haven't conceded, chud.

Here is a Satania picture to lighten the mood. Now tell me how to get freelance work. What's the process?

[Anonymous No.6660613]

>>6660603
1. Be a girl
2. Be a cute girl
3. Be a cute girl next to your art
4. Bend over
5. Profit

[Anonymous No.6660614]

>>6660613
how much does it cost to transition? Oh, I'm also gonna need a liposuction XD

[Anonymous No.6660615]

>>6660614
lip suction deez nuts

[Anonymous No.6660622]

>>6660383
More luck than anything. Luck + talent + hard work.

I've designed some t-shirts for pro wrestlers and at the time only had 400 followers on Twitter. A definite trick that I found is doing art for people with middling fame. Not so famous that they'll ignore you, but just enough so that when they share it your art will get a decent amount of views. It also helps to just do what you are passionate about.

[Anonymous No.6660640]

>>6660383
Look for job postings and apply. Keep in mind that just like any job, they're going hire either the person best for the job or the person they like the most. Strive to be the former, but there's usually competition for that so if you know your work isn't shit then don't be discouraged.
For some reason people on the internet seem to think you have to wait for people to contact you first, which is a pants-on-head-retarded idea. That's not how 99% of other vocations work, and just because that CAN be how you land an art job doesn't mean it's THE way to land an art job. I got a comic job by applying to one. I got commissions by posting my commission sheet in a place made for people looking for artists to commission. I have fuckall social media clout and never been contacted out of the blue, yet I've been self-sufficient for around two years now with my only income coming from art, without even really being all that great -- certainly not "pro-level" by /ic/ standards (hell some of the drawings I've done on off-days would get me called a beg), but you don't need to be.

[Anonymous No.6660661]

>>6660640
this is a really encouraging post. I screenshotted it for posterity. Thanks, senpai

>>6660622
I figure that the more jobs you do, the more your name is known and the rate of incoming jobs will snowball. It's just hard when you have at most 5 followers on twitter, and every post gets like 10 views

[Anonymous No.6663073]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.6666133]

>>6660383
be good at what you do and create a great portfolio and apply for remote work jobs, once you build a reputation and get connections you're good to go.

[Anonymous No.6666136]

>>6666133
even for comic art, you have to apply to jobs? Do I send my portfolio to publishers, or find writers? Or, do I try to find an agent first?

[Anonymous No.6667110]

Not OP, but I have a related question when it comes to building a social media following. So just posted some new art to twitter after not being active for awhile. I used to get likes and retweets immediately especially if it was fanart for a popular series.

It’s been 24 hours and not a single like. Meanwhile, I post the same image to Instagram and I get several likes just after a few hours

Is it Twitter’s new algorithm or am I just not as popular on Twitter than I am on IG?

[Anonymous No.6667122]

>>6666136
>even for comic art, you have to apply to jobs?
yeah

>Do I send my portfolio to publishers
yes, most of them have methods for submissions

>Or, do I try to find an agent first?
if you've got the money to pay for one then sure, it's a great way to break in since agents usually have connections.

[Anonymous No.6667138]

>>6666136
also just post your art to deviant art, social media...everywhere. If someone likes it they'll ask you if you do commissions or take on freelance work for comics. There are always writers looking around and asking, not sure if the pay will be good in that case though.

[Anonymous No.6669119]

If I wanted to do artwork for a local brewery or distillery, how would I tell them I’m interested in providing artwork for their labels? Is it as simple as DMing them thru their social media profile?

[Anonymous No.6669259]

>>6667122
You have to pay agents up front? I know in the acting world they just get a % of any gig they get you, but is it different for publishing?

[Anonymous No.6669299]

Here’s my advice as someone who fucking hates commissions because I have a massive ego and think I’m too good for them.

1. Use Twitch to stream your art if you’re confident it’s competent. I had endless commission offers even though I wasn’t advertising.

2. Make it obvious on your twitter profile that you take commissions and have a pricing scheme in mind.

3. Post coomer shit.

[Anonymous No.6669313]

>>6669299
what do you do instead of commissions?

[Anonymous No.6669318]

Just give up, If you ask for advice on 4chan chances are you already cannot think for yourself and should just embrace the wagie life.

[Anonymous No.6669322]

>>6669318
>there's no point in asking anyone for advice. I should already just somehow know everything there is to know. If you weren't born with a working map of the art industry in your head, you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.6669431]

>>6669322
there is no point in asking anyone for advice on 4chan. You should think before searching for knowledge and then using your fucking brain to work from there you mongoloid. Get off 4chan now

[Anonymous No.6669443]

>>6669431
I've made more progress and learned more about the world on 4chan than anywhere else. There's more honesty and genuine advice here than on every other site.

[Anonymous No.6669458]

>>6669443
lost soul, you are doing yourself harm by even being there and not outside with friends/family/potential friends. This place is a deadzone for all kind of human emotion besides hatred, lust and (arguably the best) arrogance.
Everyone here just fumes with the need to self validate.
No you are not learning anything, you are sitting before your monitor giggling like a fucking monkey every time you see a funny thread and wasting your life away, typing letters into an inertia ridden asylum full of teenagers who cannot socialize.
I have been called personally by the higher power to help you escape from this hellpit to fulfill my good deed for today so do not reject a helping hand.

[Anonymous No.6669474]

>>6669458
you're right. I need help. how do I leave?

[Anonymous No.6669508]

>>6669474
Start speaking to your family members, unlist all watched threads, clean up your youtube "watch later folder" , do exercise and exercise personal hygene.
Then just go fucking talk to people, don't turn back and think to yourself "well i had more fun being alone in my damp pit of a room doomscrolling".
Just do things with people and if you are truly focused on getting better at art, then you will, without ever touching this fucking radioactive zone.
best of wishes stalker, stay alive out there.

[Anonymous No.6669559]

>>6669458
Buddy, if this person wants to be an artist, that requires spending most of your life alone in a room anyway.

[Anonymous No.6670624]

>>6667110
Twitter numbers tanked since Blue was introduced. I lost about 97% of my views and the only likes I get are from people already following me, going viral or getting a retweet by Vtubers with 200k followers gets me the same amounts I used to get for random shitposts at 2AM.

Still not paying 8$ though, it's not like it's my job.

[Anonymous No.6672852]

>>6670624
what's the alternative? Is it time to start a youtube channel?

[Anonymous No.6672982]

>CTRL+F
>NICHE
>ZERO RESULTS

My advice to you OP is to find a niche.
That's what works for a lot of modern (web)comic/webtoon artists nowadays.
The comics market is extremely saturated, and talented artists are a dime a dozen because of the internet, not to mention a better artist from SE Asia or another third world hellhole like me costs 1/10 of a Burguerman.
The thing with niches is that you don't compete with everyone, but just a small fraction of it.
Maybe you won't be the best comic book artist out there, not even close to the top 10% but maybe you can be the best (insert something here) webcomic artist and that can give you money and possible jobs down the line.
I know a fujoshi that posted yaoi webtoons for fun on deviantart and other places like that and she landed a DC comics gig 1 year and a half ago because DC is trying to get a new audience since their deal with Webtoons in 2021.

[Anonymous No.6672995]

>>6672982
>be retarded
>talk about niche
>destroy niche
/ic/ never fails to surprise me

[Anonymous No.6672999]

>>6672982
>a fujoshi that posted yaoi webtoons for fun on deviantart and other places like that and she landed a DC comics gig 1 year and a half ago because DC is trying to get a new audience since their deal with Webtoons in 2021.

There's a lot of scouts from comic book publishers out there, they lurk on art websites and social media and look for fresh new talent all the time.
I know wwo HUEzillians that landed comic jobs with DC recently because they're popular fanartists on instagram and their niche is superhero characters in anime style...
Kids nowadays only care about animu and mango and the big 2 now that.
Demon Slayer and other popular manga is influencing the decisions of Marvel & DC in the last 2 years, just look at Marvel pseudo manga that's totally not a Demon Slayer rip-off lmao.

[Anonymous No.6673004]

>>6672995
>>destroy niche

Good luck with that, plenty of /ic/ tourists here can't stomach yaoi and other disgusting niches like that.
It's like saying that furry crap is hella lucrative yet no one here follow that advice.

[Anonymous No.6673010]

>>6672982
My niche is making actually good comics

[Anonymous No.6673018]

>>6672995

Everyone and their mother know that yaoi and furries are a goldmine, but there's niches inside niches.
Like you can make money off femboy furries or bara furries or "straight" furries (lmao) and so many other subniches.
It's the same thing with yaoi, there's plenty of subniches, you have feminine ukes, masculine ukes, no one is a uke, switch, etc...
Do your research OP, there's plenty of niches out there.

[Anonymous No.6673034]

>>6673010
>My niche is making actually good comics

Well, good luck then, because there's thousands of those out there.
Bonus tip: It's not about art quality or story, it's about standing out in the vast sea of artists, that's why niches are such a good idea.

[Anonymous No.6673046]

>>6673034
>Thousands of comics

Yes

>Thousands of good comics

No

[Anonymous No.6673054]

>>6673034
Even the stories from marvel and dc suck, and all the recent Disney and Pixar movies have tanked the box office. Good stories are ultra rare

[Anonymous No.6673073]

>>6673054
>Even the stories from marvel and dc suck
I agree, most of them are crap, but so are most of anything really.
>All the recent Disney and Pixar movies have tanked the box office.
Yeah, but dreamworks and Illumination (Mario and Minions: Rise of Gru) are making a lot of money nowadays and their stories are shit too.
>Good stories are ultra rare
Here's the thing, it doesn't matter if your story is a masterpiece or garbage, you know why?
Because if no one knows about your work (marketing) then your "good" story will flop all the same (don't rely on word of mouth this shit rarely works)

Good luck OP, peace out.

[Anonymous No.6673099]

>>6673073
>Here's the thing, it doesn't matter if your story is a masterpiece or garbage, you know why?
>Because if no one knows about your work (marketing) then your "good" story will flop all the same (don't rely on word of mouth this shit rarely works)
any tips on marketing? Don't leave this thread yet plz...

[Anonymous No.6673128]

>>6673099
talk to people, dropkick your work out of nowhere into people's feed, shill your work to people on social media, hop on popular hashtags to grab clout from people, yell to grab people's attention, hand over your work to people for free to get them hooked, make youtube videos about yourself (but undercover) to appeal to people.

When there's a will there is a way, but considering you are back on 4chan, I doubt you heavily.

[Anonymous No.6673155]

>>6673128
you're onto something. all my followers are currently from shilling my instagram on various discord servers, so I guess it's not a surprise that everybody who's popular got there the same way

fundamentals are fundamentals

[Anonymous No.6673168]

>>6673155
fucking dub number retard, I figured that shit out when I was 14 and made a youtube channel with music which got 1k subs almost instantly month after creation.

NOW GET TO IT

[Anonymous No.6673181]

>>6673168
self promotion has just never come naturally to me. I wish there were another way.

But then I remember how nobody knew about Kim Jung Gi, and he just drew all alone in his bedroom up until he was 27, when he met his manager Hyun Jin, who did all the promotion for him. I don't have anyone like that in my corner, and I can't wait until 27, so I've got to make my move soon

thanks, senpai

[Anonymous No.6673188]

>>6660640
Which sites do you recommend anon?

[Anonymous No.6673243]

>>6660383
With a diploma and portfolio

[Anonymous No.6673715]

>>6673188
not that anon but ALL OF THEM
GET OFF YOUR ASS NOW AND DO WHAT IT TAKES
then pick your poison, every job has a drawback even if as simple as "yu will have to work" so it's best that you get as many options for hire as possible.