/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate general

[Anonymous No.6652577]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the stickies

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread >>6651462

[Anonymous No.6652590]

Practicing from Krenz' courses. I think I'm learning, but I think I should just pick up Scott Roberston again.

[Anonymous No.6652592]

Heyo, How do I get my backgrounds looking more like the bottom? What would you say I could do to push it more in that direction? Any particular resources that might help me figure it out?

[Anonymous No.6652596]

>>6652592
What quality do you think it's lacking?

[Anonymous No.6652602]

>>6652592
Obviously perspective. But you already knew that because you've clearly practiced it a ton. You just need to work on it even more, the outside window and the back tiles look choppy.

But another thing, you need to get even better at designing original stuff. This process can be pretty fun and honestly it's a great perspective practice too, since it's all about shapes. I recommend pic related, or studying design principles from guys like Raymond Leowy. I think you're pretty good, you can only get better now by drawing everything you draw well already even better, and more precisely.

[Anonymous No.6652616]

>>6652592
Your drawing (top) has more soul and a better composition.

[Anonymous No.6652619]

>>6652592
One thing bottom is doing much better than you is using multiple elements shrinking as they're further from the viewer. Look how much it's reinforced. In yours, the shrinking is only kind of noticeable in the tile pattern and weakly in the ceiling decorations.

[Auroras No.6652627]

>>6652602
Thanks I was using 5-point perspective because linear perspective fucking sucks for backgrounds. Distorts everything to shit. 5-point fixes that problem but its a pain to get right.


I was literally gonna use the images in the book as references for my practice tomorrow! I adore the style. Thanks for the confirmation that it's a based book.


>>6652616

Thanks bro, means a lot.

[Auroras No.6652628]

>>6652619
Oh damn you're right. No wonder the top look so flat by comparison.

[Anonymous No.6652636]

[Anonymous No.6652637]

>>6652577
critique and suggested areas to practice are appreciated
>>6652592
nice perspective work on the bottom.
fan blades look a little off but maybe im retarded

[Anonymous No.6652648]

MSN2YW:<

[Anonymous No.6652654]

>wanna be an artist
>too shy to post my art online
How do I over come this?

[Anonymous No.6652655]

>>6652654
worst that can happen is people dont like it / point out what sux about it
this will make you better
just post and become better than you were

[Anonymous No.6652656]

>>6652654
Make a throw away account.

[Anonymous No.6652658]

>>6652654
do it ironically

[Anonymous No.6652661]

>>6652654
Probably look like shit. Don't post it. I don't wanna see it. There are enough bad art ITT already.

[Anonymous No.6652668]

[Anonymous No.6652669]

>>6652577
Now hwat?

[Anonymous No.6652670]

>>6652592
The top one more appealing to me

[Anonymous No.6652671]

>>6652654
you need to just begin to do it no mater what you imagining or how bad it is. after several times you will begin to sweat less about it

[Anonymous No.6652675]

[Anonymous No.6652714]

>>6652675
“And this is my multi-dildo”

[Anonymous No.6652727]

>>6652654
I've been drawing for 8 years and have never posted my art. The few family members who've seen it can barely muster a word of praise so I figured no one would give a shit about it. Suits me just fine, I'll keep drawing for myself regardless.

[Anonymous No.6652728]

Any good accounts to follow on youtube/twitter/etc that post tutorials or whatever? I like to have dripfed content in my feeds.

[Anonymous No.6652753]

>>6652728
Some of my favorites:

https://www.youtube.com/@lovelifedrawing/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@TheDrawingCodex/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@Tim-Mcburnie/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/CesarSantosArt/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@StevenZapataArt/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@waddellwebisodes/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@IanRobertsMasteringComposition/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@marcobucci/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@JamesGurney/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@christopheyoungart/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@Robotpencildesign/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@stephenbaumanartwork/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@FlorentFargesarts/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@DorianIten/videos

https://twitter.com/devinkorwin

[Anonymous No.6652760]

>>6652753
Thanks, I'll give those a look-through later.

[Anonymous No.6652830]

Do you guys draw when you feel like shit? I knew that mileage is important but if i just can't get anything to go inside my brain i feel like i'm just doing worse to how i draw

[Anonymous No.6652838]

>>6652830
yea, vent art exist for a reason
i usually draw macabre, doesn't mean i'm good at it but it does feel cathartic

[Anonymous No.6652841]

[Anonymous No.6652844]

Knowing how circles look in perspective at different distances will help in drawing and rotating cubes? How?

[Anonymous No.6652848]

>>6652844

[Anonymous No.6652851]

>there are people ITT that are actually doing drawabox
lmao

[Anonymous No.6652879]

>>6652844
It seems like some people find rotating an ellipse easier to understand than rotating a rectangle, and then they use the ellipse to find the rectangle. The ellipse is tangent to the top and sides at their midpoints.

To me, this is so backwards that it sounds like insanity, but I guess it's just a different approach. Personally I do the literal opposite.

[Anonymous No.6652880]

:|

[Anonymous No.6652881]

>>6652880
soulful

[Anonymous No.6652894]

Any books for foreshortening/perspective applied to the human body?

I tend to unfold the anatomy and underephasize size differences due to foreshortening when I draw from imagination

[Anonymous No.6652895]

>>6652880
i love this

[Anonymous No.6652900]

>>6652675
channeling Benny Watts?

[Anonymous No.6652958]

Everything was going well until I started adding colors. Not sure how this will turn out when I finish rendering

[Anonymous No.6652985]

>>6652577
Anyone have a good tldr guide for expressing emotion using eye shape?

[Anonymous No.6652987]

>>6652577
Anyone have a good tldr guide for expressing emotion using eye shape? should specify I'm thinking in the context of drawing cartoons

[Anonymous No.6653002]

>>6652958
I feel like the lightsource looks really weird. Why is it coming from below? The top of the drawing clearly looks bright as well.

[Anonymous No.6653003]

>>6652844
I kinda don't get your question because circles look the same in perspective lol, just smaller of bigger. However in regards to cubes Krenz-sama has explained this before.

[Anonymous No.6653017]

>>6653002
He is skydiving so the land is on top of the sky. And the light is from behind because it’s a sunset
I wanted to try that kind of composition

[Anonymous No.6653024]

as a beg, how do i reconcile 3dpd with the ideal? i cannot visualize the pelvis in the anime, even thoguh it is exaggerated, seems like extra muscles or fat pads are added

[Anonymous No.6653028]

https://files.catbox.moe/2ml3s8.png
Any big flaws in this drawing I'm working on?

[Anonymous No.6653031]

>>6652675
It’s amazing that after all this time you’re still so bad.

[Anonymous No.6653035]

How can I make my lineart not shit? What am I doing that’s holding me back?

[Anonymous No.6653037]

>>6650250
Practicing my understanding of how to actually lay this kind of thing out. (I know I picked a setup that made the foreshortening ultra distorted, it's just for fun while I practice the mechanics of the thing.)

Wish I was faster at this, took me 40 minutes to get here from blank canvas. I'll try putting it into an actual non-goofy drawing after I take a break for a bit.

[Anonymous No.6653042]

>>6653035
the thickness in your lineart is way thinner than the sketch. So you don't really know where to place your lines while tracing that huge space. For example, the shoulder in the linear is clearly anatomically wrong, while in the sketch is properly placed. Basically, keep practicing, this is normal.
And draw hands and feet you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.6653045]

>>6653035
enby putin
enby putin

[Anonymous No.6653056]

>>6652654
nobody really cares about art so you wont get many twitter (You)s anyway

[Anonymous No.6653061]

>>6652654
I’ve been posting art online for a few years now and the only yous I get still are from friends and family. No one is going to care unless you’re both good and draw subjects people actually like.

[Anonymous No.6653064]

>>6652958
I'm no real expert so this is mostly from observation but i think the light and darker parts should be more expressed. If it's sunset then everything should be way more darker than it is, the body casts shadows on the other parts, for example the raised leg making it even darker. I think Krenz had a nice part on his translated video about lightsource and cranking levels up and down to understand the darker and lighter parts. You could also check some images of characters under sunset to see what kind of balance you should aim for

[Anonymous No.6653080]

>>6653064
this video?

[Anonymous No.6653094]

>>6653080
Yeah, it's not really a through explanation of light and shadows but it does the job more or less

[Anonymous No.6653128]

>>6652577
I have realized that MS Paint has been a secret gift for mediocre artists such as myself this whole time. People see paint and subconsciously don't expect anything amazing.
I did this drawing based on the following

[Anonymous No.6653130]

>>6653128

I gave up on his lips because they were very difficult to draw for me

[Anonymous No.6653139]

>>6653128
>>6653130
just draw two lines lol

[Anonymous No.6653144]

>>6653139
Thank you anon, you saved my ass.
I really enjoy this sort of rough and simplistic paint drawing. The common digital art style is fairly saturated anyway.
I have been considering developing a style which retains its simplistic charm but has some more complexity to make it more interesting and unique. But I don't know how I could do that at the moment. Do you have any suggestions? I personally gravitate to more cartoonish drawings as it is.

[Anonymous No.6653155]

>>6653139
Success

[Anonymous No.6653166]

>>6653035
You are just outlining in the lineart, while in the sketch you indicated value and form, of course it is going to be on a lesser level. If you want to get better, you have two options: You can learn to indicate value and form through lines with hatching, or you can start sketching with only the outlines, if you want to train them instead.

[Anonymous No.6653180]

>>6653166
>hatching
literally impossible

[Anonymous No.6653185]

E:

[Anonymous No.6653196]

How do I break her torso down into boxes? It's like in her upper torso I see both the front plane and the back plane at the same time

[Anonymous No.6653203]

>>6653196
>It's like in her upper torso I see both the front plane and the back plane at the same time

This is a phenomenon known as "the side plane"

[Anonymous No.6653204]

Hello guys. First day of learning how to draw. When I was a kid I loved to draw comics with sticks people for hours...
Now my goal is to learn how to draw anime girls entirely in 1 week!
Wish me luck...

[Anonymous No.6653210]

>>6653204
There are tones of guides to draw anime, most are not very useful. Don't be discouraged if the ones you find don't help you at first

[Anonymous No.6653221]

>>6652577
does this get a passing grade?

[Anonymous No.6653230]

>>6653221
Frankly speaking, as a beginner myself, it only really begins once you can actually draw hands, lips, ears etc.

[Anonymous No.6653233]

>>6653185
Nice

[Anonymous No.6653237]

>>6653024
It's incredible how, despite all the baroque detail, the AI thots still manage to look incredibly bland.

[Anonymous No.6653238]

>>6653237
cope

[Anonymous No.6653240]

>>6653028
>posting image links on an image board
Wew
I think the foreleg isn't supposed to bend like that, and the face looks like you flat out can't draw a cartoon face in perspective.

[Anonymous No.6653241]

>>6653240
ponyfags must suffer

[Anonymous No.6653243]

>>6653180
Just shade it normally then, you gotta have some line weight and definition otherwise it's gonna look wiry and weird

[Anonymous No.6653245]

>>6653237
it's because they're trained on mountains of bland chinese art

[Anonymous No.6653253]

>>6653240
Yea, I made the farther eye bigger, and i think I'll try pulling the other one in closer. As for her left foreleg, yea dunno. A bit over my skill level. Thanks for the critique.
https://files.catbox.moe/b1nn07.png

[Anonymous No.6653265]

>20 minutes making marks and then deleting them because I can't decide what to draw

It seems like when it comes to drawing scenes, and not subjects, my creativity just goes down the toilet.

[Anonymous No.6653276]

This may seem like a strange request but can anyone provide tips/advice/tutorials that can help me to draw in the famous "North Korean propaganda" style?
I have been wanting to for the longest time but I am a retard. I have noticed as a general rule the thick lines and the ink block style. But I have no idea how to replicate it in photoshop or krita

[Anonymous No.6653278]

>>6653276
There are no lines.

[Anonymous No.6653279]

>>6653276
kek

[Anonymous No.6653280]

>>6653276
The thing that most bedevils me in my attempts are getting my lines to look like the lines on "ink block" style art. This is my best effort (In retrospect trying to texture the hair was a bad idea, but the original is on a computer I cannot get to, so I can't fix it)

[Anonymous No.6653281]

>>6653276
i can smell the /k/ on this post and i wish you best of luck

[Anonymous No.6653282]

>>6653278
To be more exact outlines of things are generally drawn thick. The point is that things have a sort of "weight" to them

[Anonymous No.6653287]

>>6653024

[Anonymous No.6653289]

>>6653281
Thank you, and I sincerely hope that I can one day crack the code, because I do not have the funds to study at the Mansudae Art Studio in Pyongyang to learn from the horses mouth

[Anonymous No.6653298]

>>6653289
kek i wonder if you could actually study abroad there. like if one wasn’t american hypothetically.

[Anonymous No.6653303]

>>6653298
I'm sure you can learn much of that in south korea.

[Anonymous No.6653315]

>>6653298
To answer that question, YES. You actually can. (Atleast in principle you can. Since the pandemic NK has shut down its borders completely, so no foreigners are allowed in at all. But when their borders are open foreign students are allowed in.)

[Anonymous No.6653348]

>>6653282
looks traced

[Anonymous No.6653351]

>>6653196
hello EUbro, for me it's a tilted box for the pelvis and one in profile for the ribcage, you can kind of see parts of the front and back because the ribcage is not really a box but an oval shape, the box is just a simplification

[Anonymous No.6653377]

>>6653166
Some artists have clean line art without hatching
>>6653042
Yeah I should practice hands and feet. I usually include them in sketches but for this one I…didn’t care desu

[Anonymous No.6653379]

>>6653351
cheers bruh

[Anonymous No.6653393]

>>6653238
>le cope
says the streetshitting subhuman

[Anonymous No.6653413]

slowly realizing that all art is just triangles

[Anonymous No.6653426]

zamn drawing women is so hard lol

[Anonymous No.6653446]

>>6653426
where are those drawn women you speak of

[Anonymous No.6653465]

Hello beg. This is easily my most "complete" piece yet.

>>6653413
that is how GPU is rendering anything: everything is triangle. but you as drawer can see space or surfaces as more complex shapes
>>6653265
why not first pick subject and then create scenario where they are and what are they doing there? for example you want to draw queen and then you come up with her riding to nightclub in her caravan which gets ambushed by wolves
>>6653221
hmmmmmmmmm no. did you use reference?
>>6653204
that is very courageous goal, good luck anon
>>6653035
line weight, lack of form
>>6653253
cool pony
>>6652958
Damn that is cute and soulful
>>6652894
i think almost all books about figure drawing has that but i know for sure these two have it
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61187735-anatomy-for-artists
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27817876-framed-perspective-vol-2
>>6652880
damn i kneel
>>6652844
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n136
>>6652841
cute lilith thot
>>6652830
depends on how often do you feel shit. if you feel shit once per month then who cares. but if you feel shit every time its time to draw then you have a problem...
>>6652727
>>6652654
PYW
>>6652669
now take her clothes off
>>6652637
learn how to render hair so it doesnt look like single blob. otherwise i dig it
>>6652636
practice line confidence

[Anonymous No.6653468]

>>6653289
>>6653282
>>6653276
I have developed a strategy of sorts. I will post my results as I make them.
Basically I am going to use photoshop to make a mask like pic related, then I will sketch over that, basically to get the styling of the colouring in the picture.

[Anonymous No.6653474]

>>6653377
>Some artists have clean line art without hatching
Yeah, and in my suggestion I considered that
>or you can start sketching with only the outlines, if you want to train them instead.
Clean line art = Outlines.

[Anonymous No.6653479]

>>6653465
>practice line confidence
in english, doc

[Anonymous No.6653481]

/beg/ gods tell me what I should do today. I have too many options. Cubes..perspective..krenz accuracy.. practicing heads..gesture it's too much

[Anonymous No.6653483]

>>6653479
not him but your lines are scratchy and gay just like you
t.translator man

[Anonymous No.6653484]

Hand's tired, so done for today. You would not believe the trouble I'm having with this face (or how much time it took me to get to this point).

[Anonymous No.6653486]

>>6653481
https://wheeldecide.com/

[Anonymous No.6653489]

>>6653483

[Anonymous No.6653491]

>everyone says being horny helps you improve fast
>nofap
>intense desire to draw coom when i pick up a pencil
>don’t have the skills or basic knowledge for it
time to force myself to learn quick, i guess?

>>6653481
are cubes and perspective not the same thing?

[Anonymous No.6653493]

Did a bit more drawing today, after slacking the past couple days.

[Anonymous No.6653496]

>>6653479
pic related

>>6653481
keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.6653497]

>>6653496
top left is just setting stabilization super high

[Anonymous No.6653509]

Is it really true that you can still become good at drawing even later in life? I feel most artist all began really young and they engraved it into their plastic brains, I doubt that a boomer can become the same level of good as someone who started as kid.

[Anonymous No.6653510]

>>6653509
Is it really false that you can't?

[Anonymous No.6653511]

>>6653510
I think you only wanted one of those two negatives, anon

>>6653509
People who've drawn their whole lives have an immense head start, but you can learn a language at any age so I don't know why art would be any different.

[Anonymous No.6653512]

So my first day of trying to learn the North Korea propaganda style is somewhat successful. What do you anons think so far?
(Keep in mind that they tend to add features through their use of colour on their propaganda posters, so because I have yet to colour mine in yet the features are not on, but they will be when I get to it)

[Anonymous No.6653513]

>>6653512
I will see what to do with the weird looking hair once I shade in the features

[Anonymous No.6653514]

>>6653509
Yes, I've seen enough people become good after starting from scratch when they're older. It's just way, way harder. Drawbabies have it easy and usually can't give very good advice since they were on autopilot until highschool.

[Anonymous No.6653516]

>>6653512
>So my first day of trying to learn the North Korea propaganda style is somewhat successful. What do you anons think so far?

I think it looks absolutely nothing like the style of the poster you uploaded originally. That poster was blocky shapes, hard color transitions, and pushed highlights. Yours is, like, mostly the opposite of those things?

[Anonymous No.6653518]

I'm going to do community courses to get better at drawing and painting.

My old university offers a freehand Drawing course (graphite, etc), and a watercolor course.

I eventually want to move to their oil paint course. They are about $265 each. They're open to all experience levels, and my last drawing course was years ago at the same university. Each class is about 2.5hrs on Saturdays.

Does it sound worth it? I just want to have good enough skills to realize my artistic ideas.

Should I take both or just one?
or just dive right into both?

[Anonymous No.6653519]

>>6652577
lads I absolutely hate the fact that my stylus has a taper towards the end it makes measuring things impossible
i have to have a ruler next to me to be able to measure things accurately
STUPID CHINKS

[Anonymous No.6653521]

>>6653516
>hard color transitions, and pushed highlights.
Still to come. What I have noticed is that they only use black lines on the eyes, eyebrows, mouth and deep wrinkles. So I just did the features that use them for now. In the future I will introduce colours with your criticism in mind.

>blocky shapes
That one I will have to keep in mind next time I draw features like this. I am figuring it out as I go along. Should the outline be more rigid?

[Anonymous No.6653524]

>>6653509
You can become good, a pro even, hell, you can even be famous (just look at Van Gogh). But, yes, someone who started as a kid will have advantages over you, that is just obvious, but this advange will probably be some skills that you can learn or some way of thinking that only a child can learn (IIRC, Mozart could hear something and tell all the notes)

[Anonymous No.6653530]

>>6653519
You're drawing from life onto your tablet?
If it bothers you that much just have fun with a pencil

[Anonymous No.6653533]

>>6653519
same desu

>>6653521
>That one I will have to keep in mind next time I draw features like this. I am figuring it out as I go along. Should the outline be more rigid?
Look at one color at a time. Here I separated out the white and black areas from the original image. Do you see how different the shapes are from the ones in your portrait? It's a semi-minimalist style.

[Anonymous No.6653541]

>>6652669
BASED Nayuta poster.

[Anonymous No.6653542]

>>6653533
Please tell me how you did that color separation. That would help me enormously. I was trying to break it down in this way to begin with but UI had to settle for just tracing over each color block like pic rel

[Anonymous No.6653544]

>>6653542
>Please tell me how you did that color separation
I opened it in paint.net and clicked on it with the magic wand tool

[Anonymous No.6653545]

>>6653533
I would also like to add that I have two minor issues. The first is that there are no clear examples of how they draw European eyes, and the second is that they almost NEVER portray hair. Is this more what you think it should be like? I stiffened up the lines

[Anonymous No.6653547]

It's over. People with ADHD can't learn to draw.

[Anonymous No.6653551]

>>6653547
On the contrary half my artists friends who made it have ADHD.

[Anonymous No.6653557]

>>6653533
What I really appreciate about this 'semi minimalist' style is how the actual features are implied through the colours, instead of drawn directly on with thick black lines. Its almost as if they drew the white section first, and the black one after. This is what was missing in my first draft. Its very clear when shown to me like this

[Anonymous No.6653579]

>>6653496
good idea

[Anonymous No.6653617]

I'm high af forgive me but my cat was just staring at me just sitting like this for half an hour and his fur started moving

[Anonymous No.6653625]

It's time. I will draw her now and try to give her bigger breasts and a fatter ass. I never did this before.

[Anonymous No.6653631]

>>6653625
>I will draw her now and try to give her bigger breasts and a fatter ass. I never did this before.
Don't you dare defile Satania, that would be sacrilege.

[Anonymous No.6653635]

>>6653625
shit taste desu

[Anonymous No.6653647]

>>6653631
She did it to me first, told me I'm a toddler for using an iPhone.

[Anonymous No.6653651]

>>6653496
kek im the bottom, thats why im doomed to permabeg

[Anonymous No.6653661]

>>6653497
cope
i can draw like top left with 2-3 stab

[Anonymous No.6653670]

>>6653661
>>6653497
Drown in copium
I can do it without stab

[Anonymous No.6653671]

what the fuck is stabilization

[Anonymous No.6653676]

>>6653671
A digital hack that begs use so they can fake line quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd6OGMSyPfU

[Anonymous No.6653678]

>>6653670
???
0 to 3 there's almost no difference
>I can do it without stab
same

[Anonymous No.6653680]

>>6653676
>begs use it it's a hack
>if you "made" it though it's just another tool lole :P

[Anonymous No.6653684]

>>6653625
I tried

[Anonymous No.6653686]

>>6653684
a noble goal with a long journey
never give up anon

[Anonymous No.6653687]

>>6653680
kek, i am stealing this pic.
>if you "made" it though it's just another tool lole :P
>begs use it as a "tool"
>can't draw a circle to save their lives
Stab is a lifesaver on digital, but if you use as you are learning, it becomes a lifeline.

[Anonymous No.6653689]

>>6653684
keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.6653691]

Why even learn when some proompter can get all of this in seconds and if he has some artistic skill he can fix all the errors and probably even feels good about him. It's over.

[Anonymous No.6653692]

>>6653684
I hate how much this appeals to me.

[Anonymous No.6653697]

What are you fags listening to to put you in the zone? For me it's The crystal method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GVoiiIe1ec&list=PLrpyDacBCh7Dz-r5D4mkRT9AK4MX2r6LF&index=8&ab_channel=Playtime24x7

[Anonymous No.6653701]

>>6653691
>if he has some artistic skill
That's the trick of it, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6653705]

>>6653697
weebshit like fake type, yoshi konezu, yaosobi

[Anonymous No.6653709]

should my pencil be sharp or dull while sketching? finding it hard to get soft lines, but it is also probably just my retard strength

[Anonymous No.6653720]

>>6652577
today i created a new position i guess

[Anonymous No.6653725]

>>6653720
original image didnt load

[Anonymous No.6653745]

>>6653725
>>6653709
how can you coomers draw that without bursting out into laughter or cooming every few minutes, also that position looks uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.6653746]

>>6653709
pencil can be sharp or dull just depends on the angle you hold it to get soft lines

[Anonymous No.6653765]

>>6653496
i tried but this is.. le hard

[Anonymous No.6653767]

>>6653238
do AI jeets still think they are artists and not the meat that acompanies the finger that types prompts and and pushes the button?

[Anonymous No.6653772]

>>6653745
it tough, its a mix of laughter and cringe, but you just gotta power through. as for cooming I've yet to find a solution

>>6653765
good job anon

[Anonymous No.6653773]

>>6653684
im gonna fuck your drawing anon

[Anonymous No.6653784]

Why are birds so hard?

How can I get the texture right?

[Anonymous No.6653787]

>>6653676
i can't be the only one that thinks digital line quality is like 10x more difficult than trad without stabilizer. once you add stabilizer its better, but still 1.2x difficulty for me.

[Anonymous No.6653794]

>>6653784
Are birds mammals or reptiles

[Anonymous No.6653795]

>>6653784
that bird looks so done with everything

[Anonymous No.6653797]

>>6653784
they're avians

[Anonymous No.6653798]

>>6653795
Yep, I think I gave it chronic depression

[Anonymous No.6653799]

>>6653784
birp thread?

[Anonymous No.6653802]

>>6653773
pls don't... forgive me lord..

[Anonymous No.6653805]

>>6653802
PRINCESS BABYARMS GRAHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6653806]

>>6653802
FUCKING KEK

[Anonymous No.6653807]

>>6653802
artchuds lost

[Anonymous No.6653811]

>>6653807
I mean you still need to draw the lineart and all, but yes SD/Controlnet is kinda insane

[Anonymous No.6653816]

>>6653802
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6653817]

>>6653802
ok, now fix the fucked up parts

[Anonymous No.6653818]

Devilish...
>>6653817
too lazy

[Anonymous No.6653819]

>>6653818
>too lazy
pfft, sure

[Anonymous No.6653823]

>>6653784
i wish i knew desu.
i've just been spamming with intuition but it's just a bunch of shapeless lines, idk how to give it a convincing form.

[Anonymous No.6653828]

>>6653819
arms fixed

[Anonymous No.6653829]

>>6653828
try again

[Anonymous No.6653851]

>>6653829
I actually hate it, I just think that it's funny that you can transform a shitty line drawing into something like that, I hate the AI antichrist.

[Anonymous No.6653853]

>>6653851
so fixing it means "hide the hands further" now?

[Anonymous No.6653854]

>>6653853
That's where you, the artist, comes in and fixes them. Hop to it.

[Anonymous No.6653855]

>>6653853
I didn't fix it I just tried to get more color

[Anonymous No.6653857]

>>6653855
>I didn't fix
yeah no shit
>>6653854
are you implying that prompters aren't artists?

[Anonymous No.6653858]

>>6653854
Fixing after AI just makes you an AI janny, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.6653861]

i'm stuck on this part, can I get some feedback?

[Anonymous No.6653863]

>>6653858
only the part where AI fags are randomly generating a mess

[Anonymous No.6653867]

>>6653857
>>6653858
Why haven't you become a clean up artist yet, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.6653868]

>>6653863
just like when kids make a mess while paiting?

[Anonymous No.6653870]

>>6653867
Stop you're making me depressed

[Anonymous No.6653871]

>>6653868
yeah, except in this case, the kid doesn't have creativity, artistic sense and just threw a dice

[Anonymous No.6653872]

>>6653867
>none of them are showing hands

the joke tells itself

[Anonymous No.6653874]

Discussion about AI art is as samey and boring as AI art itself.

[Anonymous No.6653878]

[Anonymous No.6653879]

>>6653872
Ok.
>>>/b/899230687

[Anonymous No.6653881]

>>6653879
lmao

[Anonymous No.6653883]

I fucking love all of you fucking bastards. wagmi

[Anonymous No.6653884]

>>6653881
As long as it gets the idea across, remember this emerging field moves at a very rapid pace. You have less than five minutes before a thread gets full of other content before you may post your touch ups.

[Anonymous No.6653886]

>>6653884
>remember this emerging field moves at a very rapid pace
yeah, and still fucks hands, insert ghost limbs, multiplies eyebrows, have problems with melting hair strands, dead fish eyes, and a long etcetera

[Anonymous No.6653887]

>>6653795
>>6653798
kek

[Anonymous No.6653889]

>>6653886
and those are just the things that can be described by common language, without taking into account the general uncanny valley effect of this "art".

[Anonymous No.6653890]

>>6653889
Why are you seething? Just enjoy the ride of humans becoming obsolete

[Anonymous No.6653893]

>>6653890
Sorry, I'm not overdosed enough on HRT and nihilism to just silently accept this shit.

[Anonymous No.6653894]

herro

[Anonymous No.6653896]

Are there any exercises to feel space and invisible lines of perspective when drawing?

[Anonymous No.6653897]

>>6653893
Let's just hope that AI is at its peak now and won't improve further, I looked into this and it could only improve further when it gets fed even more stolen data.

[Anonymous No.6653900]

>>6653896
Vilppu Drawing Manual. Skip the gesture chapter if form is what you want to focus on

[Anonymous No.6653912]

>>6653889
whats up with that anyway? ai has a distinguishable style that's almost always a dead giveaway

[Anonymous No.6653916]

It's fucking over for coom artists

[Anonymous No.6653921]

AItroons as per usual spamming their worthless crap anywhere their pajeet hands go.

[Anonymous No.6653923]

>>6653697
70's prog rock, stuff like ELP and king crimson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNOlDtZluU

[Anonymous No.6653936]

A-Ai can't create complex scenes! It's actually over.

[Anonymous No.6653943]

Noo!! It isn't art!

[Anonymous No.6653944]

I genuinely can't tell whether these niggers are just shitposting or are sincere in their posting of generated synthesized shlock on a board for drawing and analysis.

[Anonymous No.6653959]

anyone have advice for doing these? i was just eyeballing everything

[Anonymous No.6653961]

>>6653959
They look gud. now to up the difficulty level, add a big titty goth gf in each box

[Anonymous No.6653962]

>>6653944
Why so mad? I know that this art is perfect, and you will never reach this level. Just give up and become a proooompter! It's fun, trust me bro.

[Anonymous No.6654063]

Cool thread.
Iamma post me doodles.

[Anonymous No.6654069]

>>6653697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Xsfvhlpiw

[Anonymous No.6654070]

>>6654069
based weeb, for me it's Susumu hirasawa

Susumu hirasawa https://youtu.be/D3eoq0TfiwI?t=17

[Anonymous No.6654084]

Morning doodle, drew these 3.

[Anonymous No.6654086]

>>6654084
Sorry for the bad quality, my phone is old lel.

[Anonymous No.6654090]

>>6653465
What's up with the perspective on that sword?

[Anonymous No.6654093]

[Anonymous No.6654096]

>>6654093
Woah, booba.

[Anonymous No.6654097]

>>6654084
SOVL

[Anonymous No.6654098]

>>6653680

[Anonymous No.6654100]

>>6654093
flip it horizontally

[Anonymous No.6654102]

>>6653497
Draw one million boxes.

[Anonymous No.6654104]

How to draw an ellipse using a plane? This method gives only 4 points. Are there any other ways to check if the ellipse is correct?

[Anonymous No.6654105]

>>6653828
You're making it worse.

[Anonymous No.6654112]

>>6654104
>digital
Use the ellipse tool
>trad
Use an arrangement of pins and string, or approximate with a French curve

[Anonymous No.6654113]

>>6654104
Most programs have an ellipse tool.

>>6654098
Damn, this looks as bad as my hyperbeg looms

[Anonymous No.6654119]

Is there any benefit to buying clip studio paint over just using krita?

[Anonymous No.6654122]

>>6654119
Not being able to save when you're not connected to the internet is a killer feature.

[Anonymous No.6654125]

>>6654119
>paying for anything when you're just a hobbyist
Reminder unless you're making money with some software just pirate it
Pajeets will get mad but it is the truth
Simple as

[Anonymous No.6654128]

>>6654125
Every version I find seems to be a virus.

[Anonymous No.6654151]

>>6653465
>lack of form
But I thought using cylinders and other 3d shapes give form to the figure.

[Anonymous No.6654201]

>>6654119
distraction. if you using krita just use krita, tool will not solve your problem

[Anonymous No.6654212]

Can you guys Critique this drawing I made of Spawn and DoomSlayer

[Anonymous No.6654218]

>>6653465
Thanks a lot. Those perspective books were exactly what I was looking for.

[Anonymous No.6654231]

>Artist draws kind of okay, not bad but certainly not great either
>Artist starts drawing girls in bikinis and other coom stuff
>Gets noticeably better within a year
Is this the grand secret to improving? It sorta makes sense too I mean it's anatomy at its purest form.

[Anonymous No.6654325]

>>6653484
About four hours from blank canvas to finish, I think. Really struggled with the head/face, and the shoulder/back. Also the hands but I like drawing hands so I don't mind so much.

[Anonymous No.6654351]

Day 2 of learning the North Korean propaganda style is underway.
Now that I got the black outlines down should I colour in skin like colours, or keep the black and white and shade in gray?

[Anonymous No.6654371]

[Anonymous No.6654372]

good morning sirs I will redeem your lineart with AI if you want and give it buterful colors bobs and vagene

[Anonymous No.6654374]

>>6653959
can you take me through the drawing process of them? I feel too mentally challenged to do this

[Anonymous No.6654378]

>>6654212
Nice.
General lack of understanding of form etc. but it had sovl.
>>6654371
Based hand practicing chad.
>>6654372
Would you do mine?

[Anonymous No.6654381]

why is drawing bodies overlapping so difficult especially when they are of different sizes / types. Is there any resource for this sort of thing specifically? I lose all my gains when I try to imagine people touching - anatomy, tangent lines, perspective, it’s a nightmare. Well, I don’t really see anything in my head so maybe that’s part of the difficulty here.

[Anonymous No.6654395]

why are badly drawn cades so goat?

[Anonymous No.6654402]

Did I do this right? 2 point perspective

[Anonymous No.6654404]

>>6654402
Ah damn just noticed the store shelves are on another vanishingpoint

[Anonymous No.6654406]

>>6654378
AI still has too much trouble doing multiple characters at once

[Anonymous No.6654413]

It is not so good. What is missing here anons? Recall that this is supposed to be North Korean. The backround will be removed soon

[Anonymous No.6654414]

>>6654395
>>6653617
dunno

[Anonymous No.6654419]

I feel like I had a nice concept in mind but I'm struggling to execute it. this feels ugly and boring but I can't figure out what's off. any advice or suggestions?

[Anonymous No.6654422]

>>6654414
nono it must look good like this, try again

[Anonymous No.6654424]

>>6654402
The buildings are all correct, but where the fuck is the left side of the road going?

[Anonymous No.6654425]

>>6654422
>>6654395
it's because cats are badly drawn IRL

[Anonymous No.6654428]

>>6654414
nono it must look good like this, try again

>>6654419
it's 100% because of the lighting, light coming from top right of the image is notoriously boring. It's also a very neutral lighting both in color and strength, which doesn't really emphasize the dramatic scene.
For harder to fix stuff, the pose is static and linear, you don't really feel the motion of pulling and the struggle. The expression is also too bland and communicates only a mild discomfort instead of agony and pain.

[Anonymous No.6654430]

>>6654402

[Anonymous No.6654432]

>>6654430
fugg :DD I knew there was something wrong with that corner.

[Anonymous No.6654433]

>>6654425
sry

>>6654419
>>6654428
i remember doing this drawing that has a similar pose and concept of being grabbed and pulled and looks kinda dynamic, fucking the proportions up and exaggerating expressions works good

[Anonymous No.6654435]

>>6654432

[Anonymous No.6654436]

>>6654432
it not impossible. it just if lines are parallel they go to point

[Anonymous No.6654444]

>>6654433

[Anonymous No.6654445]

Where to download Krenz Cushart for free?

[Anonymous No.6654451]

I tried tracing a bunch of references and then drawing one using the tracing as a reference, I’m not sure if it’s the most effective way of learning but I did feel more confident drawing the copy.

[Anonymous No.6654495]

>>6654428
>>6654433

mm yes, I think you guys summed it up pretty well. I stopped the coloring because I realized there were too many things to fix first but I'll keep the lighting in mind for the next try.

for the pose, I haven't found any good refs for the poseI had in mind. I wonder if something like picrel is better? exaggeration is harder to get right than proper anatomy lmao but I like what you did in yours

[Anonymous No.6654509]

>>6654413
Tomorrow I try some actual shading and colour grading. So far I am satisfied with my progress.

[Anonymous No.6654531]

>symbol drawing is drawing what you know instead of what you see
>construction is learning what things look like so you can draw them from knowledge
learning art is so fun and not contradictory at all
>TRYY2D

[Anonymous No.6654538]

>>6654531
Yes? Not contradictory at all. "Getting rid of symbol drawing" is nothing but the first step where you stop drawing a vague dick shape as a nose and actually start looking at what's in front of you.
Once you you've accepted that you don't know shit, it's time you start learning how things are properly built based on observation and form.

[Anonymous No.6654549]

Why the fuck is CSP so laggy? My cracked photoshop doesn't lag at all, but in CSP there is noticeable latency on the stroke.

[Anonymous No.6654556]

>>6654549
Try to close the XBoxStat.exe on you task manager and restart CSP, it's a known issue that it causes lag.

[Anonymous No.6654564]

I was able to polish the turd a little more.

[Anonymous No.6654566]

>>6654564
Also redid a bit on this.

[Anonymous No.6654569]

>>6654201
well, my problem is I want to learn to make kawaii anime drawings but clip studio paint is the main thing they use.

[Anonymous No.6654579]

>>6654413
A small edit i've done using >>6653521 with paint.
Looks a bit fatter because i've painted over the black contour of the face to remove it since in the reference image there isn't, if you have the original you could probably do it better, see if you like it.

[Anonymous No.6654581]

>>6654569
it not program problem it is drawing problem.

[Anonymous No.6654583]

>>6654579
I will definitely experiment with the outlines when I next get the chance. I personally feel like they should stay, but should not be as heavy as they are at the moment. This is the final version of that, where I made most of my finishing touches for the time being. They like to use different types of outlines depending on the angles. I should try put a white outline in some places, see if that works.
What I decide on will ultimately depend on how nicely the background comes out

[Anonymous No.6654601]

>>6654581
But how do I truly draw anime? I don't even know where to start on so many things, like line weighting.

[Anonymous No.6654614]

>>6654583
Yeah, probably a different background will tell you much more about what to edit

[Anonymous No.6654620]

>>6654601
Frist, you need to be asian. Are you asian or, failing that, are you fucking one?

[Anonymous No.6654622]

I'm struggling with getting darker values when drawing using 2B and 4B. Do you just press harder, apply more layers of is there some technique?

[Anonymous No.6654638]

>>6654601
Step 1. Watch anime daily
Step 2. Pause anime and watch in a meditative state how everything looks, each line individually, don't see shapes only see lines
Step 3. Draw anime, literally copy as much as you can (the anime general has some great guides check em out)

[Anonymous No.6654643]

>>6654638
>Watch anime daily
Incorrect.
>Pause anime and watch in a meditative state how everything looks, each line individually, don't see shapes only see lines
Wrong.
>Draw anime, literally copy as much as you can (the anime general has some great guides check em out)
Stop copying anime. You may draw anything from the sphere, cube, cylinder, and conical forms. Familiarize yourself with mechanical perspective and geometry and get a good sense of volume and space by understanding how and where forms overlap to create the foreshortening illusion of depth and perspective. Nobody will ever tell you these fundamental forms anymore.

[Anonymous No.6654653]

>>6654643
incorrect and wrong.
recipe to westoid bs

[Anonymous No.6654663]

>>6654643
While it's good to study these things on the side, the main thing that develops your skills is copying and engraving that shit into your brain. Also it's more fun.

[Anonymous No.6654664]

>copy a picture
>do the parts accurately and stuff
>but the minor differences make it feel entirely different
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.6654666]

>>6654664
Keep practicing until you're better at accurately replicating the minor differences. Eventually you have to start doing focused studies of style and technique.

[Anonymous No.6654668]

>>6654653
>recipe to westoid bs
That is exactly why you haven't improved and you still post ITT.

[Anonymous No.6654671]

>>6654495
tried to push the pose a little more, brought her shoulders up, added more of a grimace... how's it look pals?

[Anonymous No.6654673]

>>6654668
NTA but PYW both of you

[Anonymous No.6654675]

>>6653802
Sop this... is the power... of ai...

[Anonymous No.6654685]

>>6654673
Give me a good enough reason to, because it is clear that nothing will change your minds to put that damn anime down for a minute.

[Anonymous No.6654708]

>>6654374
the ones i've drawn are really shitty but here:
top row and left column are 1-point and 2-point perspective hitting four main viewing angles: 0 degrees, 45 degrees, 22.5 degrees, and 67.5 degrees. 22.5 and 67.5 are just halfway between 45 and 0 or 90. these are easy to draw because you just need the ratio between the left and right halves to be correct, either 1:1 or 3:1 or 1:3.
everything else is derived from applying these rotations to an angle you've already drawn, but if you look closely quite a few of them are symmetrical, so you probably only need to really memorize the shapes of a few.
at the bottom is how you could construct one of the rotations manually. we're just constructing a 1:3 ratio in perspective to get the new vanishing points.

[Anonymous No.6654721]

>>6654708
>at the bottom is how you could construct one of the rotations manually.

NTA but I've never seen this laid out like that before, neat

[Anonymous No.6654723]

>>6654721
https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-Persp-Week-3-2448249eef72433ba2daebb58d803373
it's in the krenz course

[Anonymous No.6654770]

>>6654708
thanks even though it's a bit autistic and I hate anything with numbers but I will look at it

[Anonymous No.6654786]

>>6654671
yo this is a huge improvement in every regard! The mass of arms looks way more 3d now, tits more weighty, nice twisting motion on the torso, better expression
gj anon!!!!,,,

[Anonymous No.6654791]

>>6654708
>Virgin autistic math artist
v
>Chad "just use a rubik cube as reference bro"
jokes aside, this is too complex, if people here liked math, they would go on STEM

[Anonymous No.6654808]

Valmet from Jormungand

[Anonymous No.6654810]

Decided to finally get back into drawing, decided to watch through the first proko lesson on gesture drawing while writing down everything that might be important and attempted to do 12 5 min gestures.
There are some things that I know right out of the bat I messed up on
>Proportions are consistently fucked, keep forgetting to draw the stomach making the figure look really weird.
>my attempts are foreshortening just make the limbs look like they were different sizes
>Most of the lines were really messy, making it hard to really see what's going on. This only got worse when multiple limbs over lapped each other.
I'm sure there are some other things I probably missed (wouldn't mind getting some critique) and I know there are some things to work on, will probably read through an anatomy book to help with the proportions/ missing stomach, watch through the second lesson of proko and will go back to drawabox to do the 1st lesson again for fundamentals + exercises to do before hand.
Felt kind of nice doing this, even though I fucked up massively. 4 and 8 felt like they were a step in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.6654812]

TODAYS ASSIGNMENT FOR /BEG/

Try to draw this rock

[Anonymous No.6654813]

>>6654673
here's my latest study. i spent hours copying a transition frame that i paused on in the last hentai i was jacking to. i do thousands of such copies a day and my might is slowly approaching chat gpt's

[Anonymous No.6654815]

>>6654810
kek you have too wide syndrome I have too thin and long syndrome
>>6654791

>>6654791
kek, just showcases asian superiority again..it's over westernbros.. we are too low IQ for their advanced art mathematics

[Anonymous No.6654817]

>>6654791
>if people here liked math, they would go on STEM
lol

[Anonymous No.6654818]

>>6654813
wow... I kneel.

[Anonymous No.6654820]

opinions?

[Anonymous No.6654823]

>>6654820
Socials?

[Anonymous No.6654833]

>>6654820
need more big and sag imo

[Anonymous No.6654834]

>>6654808
Maybe I misread what you were going for, but it seems like you wanted this kind of twist of the torso, but lost on it the right (her left) side?

>>6654810
You can study accuracy, perspective, and proportions separate from gesture, and at least IMO it makes more sense to do so.

[Anonymous No.6654839]

>>6654786
Thank you ; u ; I like your cattos

[Anonymous No.6654841]

>>6654810
4 and 11 were your best ones, I am noticing that you are too focused on form on the gestures, while important, the best gestures focus on the movement, flow, or any other word that would describe what the figure is doing. So, a few tips:
>As you are starting, try to draw from nude reference, it's easier to learn this way, because clothes might confuse you
>Don't stay locked at gesture, it takes months to get at a good level, you do gesture and go learn other things.
>Look at gesture drawings of other artists, Kim Jung Gi is a recommendation.
>Watch the video of Proko and Marshall critiquing gestures, it will give you a few pointers.

[Anonymous No.6654844]

>>6654834
Yes, i was using a reference fucked her shoulders up too

[Anonymous No.6654852]

>>6654810
Idk what Proko teaches but you seem to be too obsessed with the outline of the figure. You need to focus more on what the body is actually doing and that can be represented with just a stick figure. You can also mostly ignore proportions as long as they arent too whack. Use better ref as well, don't use clothed figures for gesture drawing and try to avoid poses with a lot of overlap as a beginner.

Watch this video if you haven't seen it before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKi3-fe1GC4

[Anonymous No.6654856]

>>6654833

[Anonymous No.6654863]

>>6654812
I hate stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.6654867]

>>6654863
Looks good enough

[Anonymous No.6654874]

>>6654810
i think gesture, especially with such complex dynamic poses, is a bit too challenging for you rn, it's like banging your head on a brick wall. The notion of "Start with gesture" is kinda misleading and not the way to go. Try drawing gondolas, i remember drawing gondolas helped me a lot when starting out

[Anonymous No.6654894]

>>6654874
blah blah blah idc about your gay gondolas, i'm gonna spam gestures until i learn how to create fully rendered anatomy

[Anonymous No.6654896]

>>6654815
Now that you say that all of my bodies are really wide, thank for you telling me that and I will attempt to slim them down somehow.
>>6654834
That does make a bit more sense, just did gesture stuff since I heard doing that was pretty useful as an exercise and working on proportions. Might try to separate different topics to different days and shorten down the gesture stuff to do as exercises before a drawing.
>>6654841
As soon as I posted it, I forgot to say that I felt like 11 was pretty alright and yeah I guess I got too caught up with the form stuff when proko talked about the cross contour lines, just put too much focus on it. Might just go through the video again and attempts to just use lines more.
Will make sure to stop using clothed references, as soon as I tried to do 10 I immediately realised that I should have gone full nude for my references. Also, now that you said Kim Jung Gi, I do remember just hoarding a bunch of his books so I might go through his stuff and see how he does it. Will also check out that critique video.
>>6654852
Didn't know that the overlapping references would kick my ass so much, so I'll take your advice and go try to use simpler poses with minimal overlap. I'll also try to improve my observation skill when it comes to actually drawing what I see of the body rather than seeming like I just kinda winged it (which really shows in 2, 6, 7 & 10). I've got the keys to drawing book on hand so I might work on going through it to help with improve that.
Also, thanks for both the video and showing me your drawing of the reference, helps me a lot seeing what I messed up on more and I'll make sure to watch through the video and to write down what it focuses on.
>>6654874
I still feel like the gesture stuff would be good to do even though I'm messing up with them, but I'll probably cut it down to 6 5 min poses instead for the time being
Also, how do drawing gondolas help?

[Anonymous No.6654903]

MUHHH GESTUUUREESS!! 30 sec gestures to do glorified stick figures with all joints head torso and pelvis is enough to build up a visual library, everything else is retarded. Just copy characters from movies/anime/games and do quick 20 min studies of them.

I hate the faggot who pushed this gesture meme unto us

[Anonymous No.6654905]

>>6654903
I hate Proko for being an intentional beg trap in general. (Proko's content is all aimed at intermediate artists but he markets it at beginners because it raises his maximum possible revenue.)

[Anonymous No.6654909]

>>6654903
PYW Sataniaposter

[Anonymous No.6654910]

>>6654903
wrong. i did 5 hours of gesture every day for 2 years straight, and i passively learned rendering and anatomy by osmosis.

[Anonymous No.6654914]

>>6654903
>cuckstruction
Couldnt be me.

[Anonymous No.6654915]

>>6654910
>5 hours
>everyday

Don't know if serious..or .. anon do you by chance have autism?

[Anonymous No.6654916]

>>6654910
>5 hours
Why?

[Anonymous No.6654919]

>>6654910
pyw

[Anonymous No.6654924]

>>6654896
I am the >>6654841
Forgot to link the video, sorry about that.
https://youtu.be/lVxvFTYz210
About KJG, look for his ballet sketches, those are, imo, his best lessons on gesture.

[Anonymous No.6654927]

>>6654896
idk man, it worked for me. It's a very chill and freeform way of drawing, just start drawing whatever shape and make it a gondola. If it comes out looking like shit it's funny, if it comes out good you're a drawing god, shrimple as that

[Anonymous No.6654934]

based

[Anonymous No.6654935]

>>6654924
No worries, thank you for dropping the link.
Also, tried looking for the ballet sketch but couldn’t find anything.
>>6654927
I will be honest with you, I thought you meant the boats, I remember see these guys rarely but never knew their names.
Wouldn’t actually mind drawing this to work on forms, although I wish I had a decent ref of these guys.

[Anonymous No.6654940]

>>6654903
I couldn't agree more. Gesture is such a cucked exercise.

[Anonymous No.6654944]

>>6654935
Here mate.

[Anonymous No.6654946]

>>6654944
Thanks dude

[Anonymous No.6654991]

[Anonymous No.6655086]

[Anonymous No.6655087]

>>6655086
What's that keep working thing

[Anonymous No.6655091]

>>6655087
its timer chan, she keeps me accountable

[Anonymous No.6655096]

>>6655086
>timer chan
gmi

[Anonymous No.6655200]

>>6654812

[Anonymous No.6655221]

Working on the color of my wife's D&D character.

[Anonymous No.6655272]

how do you draw a sphere

[Anonymous No.6655275]

>>6654903
>Just copy characters from movies/anime/games
already on it boss
>and do quick 20 min studies of them.
wait what the fuck what is that what does that mean

[Anonymous No.6655280]

>>6655275
copy them... harder

[Anonymous No.6655290]

>>6655280
me brain no workie

[Anonymous No.6655346]

>>6655272
You first draw a circle.

[Anonymous No.6655355]

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>>6655354
>>6655354
>>6655354

[Anonymous No.6655750]

>>6652577
What is this type of shading called?