/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6646657]

/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate general

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the stickies

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6641917

[Anonymous No.6646668]

>>6646657
>My dogshit art is there
Why must you do this to me?

[Anonymous No.6646674]

>>6646668
>Posts work publicly
>Wah why am I seeing it being posted publicly?
Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6646675]

Still working on this one.

[Anonymous No.6646681]

>>6646657
>Got put into the begbegbeg corner
Damn.

[Anonymous No.6646682]

>>6646668
It’s like catcalling a woman. It means they like you and want to rape you to death.

[Anonymous No.6646709]

For shadows in digital painting, does anyone regularly use that method where instead of manually picking shadow colors and adding them to flats, you make a new clipping layer set to overlay or hard light, fill it with a dark blue/purple, and then erase the parts with light? Do I have that right? Is it really a shortcut like some people claim?

[Anonymous No.6646711]

>>6646681
It's a shit tier ranking.

[Anonymous No.6646716]

beg beg?!?!? i "beg" to differ

[Anonymous No.6646726]

PANKTR

[Anonymous No.6646728]

>>6646657
OK so where is sub/beg/ pre/beg/ perma/beg/

[Anonymous No.6646731]

>>6646728
they dont draw so there's no thread

[Anonymous No.6646734]

>>6646728
there is nothing like this, there is always the way up

[Anonymous No.6646736]

>>6646728
permabegs dont exist only lobotomites and people who dont want to get better

[Anonymous No.6646749]

>>6646736

[Anonymous No.6646758]

finished this

[Anonymous No.6646760]

>>6646758
working on this

[Anonymous No.6646769]

cursed

[Anonymous No.6646773]

>>6646749
post the gif version

[Anonymous No.6646776]

>>6646769
reminds me of the SCORN faces in morpho

[Anonymous No.6646790]

>>6646716
Your actual drawing is shit but your composition and themes have soul, which is a much easier problem to fix than the opposite

[Anonymous No.6646830]

Kinda depressing to see what pieces people call beg in the rate thread desu.

[Anonymous No.6646833]

>>6646830
wym

[Anonymous No.6646836]

>>6646760
done

[Anonymous No.6646837]

>>6646833
People calling things I'd consider intish beg makes me think I'm even more beg than I thought.

[Anonymous No.6646839]

>>6646836
smells like tumblr
you'll get lots of updoots on twitter that's how that works right

[Anonymous No.6646842]

I wrapped my wrist in an ace bandage to force me to draw from the shoulder and it's working

[Anonymous No.6646846]

>>6646837
What rating thread?

[Anonymous No.6646849]

>>6646846
>>6626569

[Anonymous No.6646851]

>>6646839
>lolis lusting after a shota
>tumblr

[Anonymous No.6646859]

>>6646830
Art is subjective. I don't consider /int/ or /pro/ a thing, just /beg/ and artist.

[Anonymous No.6646870]

>>6646859
While I agree that there aren't really any quantifiable metrics to determine one's skill level, there are still pretty significant differences between most beginners and non-beginners. Also, the difference between pro and amateur is that one receives money for their work.

[Anonymous No.6646882]

>>6646837
I’ve been called a beg in that thread regardless of how much progress I make and how much “off-4chan” clout I accumulate so I wouldn’t worry. It’s mostly begs and crabs rating

[Anonymous No.6646884]

>>6646870
>receiving money
That's too vague and generalized. I was once paid 5 bucks for some stupid anime drawing I drew as kid. Would that automatically qualify me as a professional artist?

[Anonymous No.6646893]

>>6646830
7 years to get out of /beg/
3 years to get out of /int/
You spend the rest of your life as /pro/

[Anonymous No.6646896]

Is this approach to foliage dumb? I kinda like it, but I think I should probably put more emphasis on lights and shadows with larger emptier spaces.
Obviously work in progress.

[Anonymous No.6646897]

>>6646851
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.6646900]

>>6646851
twitter is full of pedophiles so I don't see the problem

[Anonymous No.6646903]

>>6646884
>as kid
That was makes it more of a charity situation, but money was exchanged for goods/services. You could claim being pro, but what does it say that you've only received a total of five dollars for your work as a pro?

[Anonymous No.6646904]

>>6646884
>getting paid to draw anime
That's /pro/ by 99% of this board's standards.

[Anonymous No.6646920]

/smeg/

[Anonymous No.6646923]

>>6646904
a better def would be when you can make a living. off your art

[Anonymous No.6646928]

Thoughts? Plus does anyone have some suggestions on what to do for the background?

[Anonymous No.6646934]

>>6646928
honestly you should've planned the background with the character. Thumbnailing is a good habit.

Otherwise, your character is fine, if not a little flat and unanatomical. More figure drawing will take care of that

[Anonymous No.6646938]

>>6645873
still not done. tomorrow for sure

[Anonymous No.6646942]

What should I do? Well, in principle.

[Anonymous No.6646988]

>>6646928
Get better at proportions. The top and bottom halves of the figure look like they belong to different people. For the background... Waffle House parking lot.
>>6646942
Not sure what principles you're referencing, but refining the work would be my next step.

[Anonymous No.6647001]

>>6646657
Thanks for baking the threads OP.

[Anonymous No.6647017]

Here's a little character of mine

[Anonymous No.6647022]

how far am i away from making millions off of coomer art

[Anonymous No.6647023]

I have 0 motivation to draw. I feel dead all day everyday. All I do is watch anime. I had to stop my antidepressant because it gave me tinnitus and other weird shitty side effects. Have to wait another 10 days before I have my next appointment with my psychiatrist I hate this shit why am I this way, why can't I just be fucking normal? Why do I need meds to function? Fuck this gay earth

[Anonymous No.6647028]

>>6647022
You could start right now if you pander to some autists and their fetishes.

[Anonymous No.6647030]

>>6647023
cool blog
subscribed

[Anonymous No.6647043]

>>6647023
pls be my gf

[Anonymous No.6647055]

>>6647023

[Anonymous No.6647057]

>>6647023
Why do you think you need to draw?
>>6647022
2-3 years to pro

[Anonymous No.6647066]

Anyone have a link to Scott Waddell's courses?

[Anonymous No.6647071]

So frustraiting... I'm at the point where I'm not totally beg anymore but I'm also not at a point where my art is good or pleasing. It's just kind of.... meh. Idk how long it takes to get out of this zone, took me a year to get OK fundamentals but I'm demotivated about overcoming that next part

[Anonymous No.6647085]

I tried to color the sketch from the last thread >>6644337

>>6647023
leave a paper and pencil nearby and doodle when you are waiting for something, like your work break or downloading something
after some time you learn to appreciate it and it becomes something natural, drawing helps me cope with anxiety and stuff
until you make it a habit it's better to draw what you like instead of what you need otherwise you won't be motivated
also I have tinnitus too but the cause is crowded teeth

[Anonymous No.6647088]

>>6647085
SEXOOOO AWWWHOOOGOGGAAA.
Tips for a shitter who can't colour worth a damn?

[Anonymous No.6647091]

>>6647088
look 2 value, 3 value, 4 value, 5 value system and work your way up the ladder

[Anonymous No.6647094]

>>6647023
pls be my gf

[Anonymous No.6647099]

just a drawing

[Anonymous No.6647109]

>>6647091
And picking colours? Everytime I try my palette looks like dogshit.

[Anonymous No.6647113]

>>6647088
my rendering is not that good so I'm not the most appropriate person to talk about it
but I recommend marco bucci's course, he also has a youtube channel
and do several studies of artists that you like
I'm watching colossus's chyan course and apparently he's going to talk about it too
you can find these courses in the video course thread

[Anonymous No.6647126]

>>6647109
just separate values into layers and ctrl+u or whatever shortcut is for color balance

[Anonymous No.6647162]

>>6646928
>thoughts
Amateurish but fuckable. Your instincts carry your inexperience. I'd hang it on my wall over better drawn bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6647167]

>>6647023
Do push-ups to failure every morning and walk/ run a mile. Take your vitamins and stay hydrated.
Unironically do this for two weeks and see if half your issues solve themselves.
Not kidding.

[Anonymous No.6647169]

>>6647088
I learned to color from painting minis. Also, spring for good lighting.

[Anonymous No.6647177]

jeez this is harder than it looks bros

[Anonymous No.6647183]

Hello beg. Today i tried to work differently with the limited colors: white as base color for capes (symbolic) and used layer in erase mode for lens flare from torch. Cant say i am happy but it isnt disaster either.

>>6647099
that hips to waist ratio is super coomer friendly despite her slim frame. good job!
>>6647085
time to collect coomers patreon money!
>>6647071
anon you forgot to pyw
>>6647023
obviously i dont know your life story, but happy pills are over prescribed to people who just lack willpower to fix their life and the pills only turn you into zombie with no energy: making the problems worse. and the mental doctors will never tell you this because they get paid big money to keep prescribing you useless shit. think of it logically: if shrink ever cured his patients he would be out of work. it is in their interest to keep you helpless and keep that cash flow
>>6647022
that line quality is... bad
>>6646942
produce finished piece
>>6646928
coomable thot with a soul! for background put her into witchs den with brewing potions and such
>>6646836
>done
anon at least put there flat colors with bucket fill, this cannot be done. it is cute though
>>6646758
the clashing colors kill it and your value range is too narrow
>>6646726
very cool paintings studies
>>6646709
why not just paint in that layer in the shade color instead of erasing it?

[Anonymous No.6647196]

>>6647177
The balls look like they're connected way too low.

[Anonymous No.6647216]

me made bwarbarwr

[Anonymous No.6647219]

>>6647216
soul

[Anonymous No.6647228]

>>6646790
right now ive been hyper focused on circles and volume so im kinda capping myself. i know im not at full potential rn but i figure once i can draw people well everything else will fall into place. i have ideas the world should see
drawing manual ftw

[Anonymous No.6647246]

>>6647023
Have you considered accepting our Lord and Saviour Jordan Peterson into your life?

[Anonymous No.6647248]

>>6647183
>why not just paint in that layer in the shade color instead of erasing it?
That’s what I do now, but I’ve seen a few posts on social media advertise the erase method as a time saver, so I wanted to see if that was the case for anyone here.

[Anonymous No.6647252]

Back pain from drawing has gotten me to start lifting to improve my posture

[Anonymous No.6647268]

Just got a drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.6647337]

>>6647022
>>6647183
Its almost like a sketch layer is like a guide for decent lineart

[Anonymous No.6647339]

>>6647337

[Anonymous No.6647359]

I tried really hard on the left pose but it feels uncanny when I look at it what did I do wrong

[Anonymous No.6647372]

>>6647359
these look like legos anon stop drawing such harsh shapes

its also a super stiff pose. you should try doing some gesture stickmen to get a better feel for it

[Anonymous No.6647400]

why do I fucking suck?
And I don't want some bullshit
le practice
le start somewhere
le boxes
le bullshit+++
What the fuck this is shit
I don't want fucking limp wrist encouragement I want fucking help

[Anonymous No.6647401]

>>6647400
just draw

[Anonymous No.6647403]

>>6647400
look at your reference

[Anonymous No.6647415]

>>6647400
chest perspective and head perspective don't match, body is too small, arms are obviously just wrong

[Anonymous No.6647417]

>>6647400
You art is shit, because your attitude is shit
You don't believe the standard advice that has helped everybody before you, and will help everybody after you, doesn't apply to you. You're special.
You think nobody else has experienced frustration? Get over yourself. Try again tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6647418]

>>6647023
do some running and the endorphins will sort your brain out in no time, plus vitamin d from the sun and your body working the kinks out will open up blood flow to the brain and give the brain the oxygen it so desperately needs, especially after the side effects that fucking SSRIs will give you.

[Anonymous No.6647426]

>>6647401
FUCK YOU I DID JUST DRAW AND IT'S FUCKING SHIT
I have this idea in my mind and it just wont come to life
>>6647403
I don't have one, I think it's annoying to have a reference
>>6647417
>Try again tomorrow.
I spent all my energy on this...
it's my brushes' fault fuck my brush
krita sucks
I'm going to sleep
fuck drawing
>>6647417
>You don't believe the standard advice that has helped everybody before you
JUST LE DRAW BRO HAHAHHA
YEAH TOTALLY
WAIT NO WONDER MY MOOD IS SHIT I SPENT ALMOST AN HOUR ON THIS SHIT AND IT LOOKS WORSE THAN MY BALLSACK

[Anonymous No.6647427]

>>6647426
peak ngmi lol

[Anonymous No.6647431]

>>6647426
do u expect someone to give u the secret art technique that will turn you from beg to pro overnight

think of art like a muscle the more you train it the stronger it gets. if u dont draw because your art looks like shit you wont grow

[Anonymous No.6647441]

>>6647431
yes, where is the secret brush?
I hate mine
they don't sketch right
I don't feel growth at all
in the gym I see growth when I flex a cep and when my number is higher
my art is mega shit

[Anonymous No.6647444]

>>6647426
i can just tell you're 15

[Anonymous No.6647445]

>>6647441
are you baiting or are you actually this numb skulled

[Anonymous No.6647447]

>>6646675

[Anonymous No.6647448]

>>6647400
>le don't practice
>le never start
>le don't learn how to draw basic shapes
>le all advice is bullshit+++

[Anonymous No.6647449]

>>6647426
anon you gotta have fun, my art is shit but I have fun, you won't get good without failure first and a negative attitude will stunt your learning

[Anonymous No.6647452]

>>6647449
ygmi
The other guy got filtered at the first step, there's no helping with that.

[Anonymous No.6647453]

>>6647444
I'm 21...
>>6647445
what?
>>6647449
yeah but my brush is fucked up or something
my brain can't translate the thoughts into art, I think it's the brush's fault

[Anonymous No.6647459]

>>6647449
I thought that scale was for bush hair

I think it's funnier that way.

[Anonymous No.6647461]

>>6647453
The image in your (and everyone else's) head is a clever illusion, it's not a complete image. You got trolled by your own brain.

[Anonymous No.6647462]

>>6647459
That "perfect" is indeed perfect in that context.

[Anonymous No.6647463]

>>6647453
are you drawing with a tablet with or without a screen, maybe try drawing on paper first you can focus on what your hand is doing more

[Anonymous No.6647464]

OH GOD IM LOOOOOOOMING

[Anonymous No.6647466]

is this the right way to curve the jawline?
I just move the line by how much the head is tilted since it's right on the side right?

[Anonymous No.6647483]

>>6647466
go learn the scull

[Anonymous No.6647488]

>>6647483
this anons right

[Anonymous No.6647512]

Tell me exactly what you think. Made something "simple" just to gauge what can I do. Never drawn before, but don't go easy on me.

[Anonymous No.6647516]

>>6647512
She looks like she just watched a cat get skinned or something

Also, no comprehendo sleevo, p good otherwise

[Anonymous No.6647528]

>>6647516
>She looks like she just watched a cat get skinned or something
What kind of expression is that???
My friends told me she looks nostalgic about filling her cheeks with tea.
>no comprehendo sleevo
What precisely you mean? You are familiar with Hakurei Reimu's detached sleeve design? Of course you are, who on the internet, especially in 4chan wouldn't be??

[Anonymous No.6647534]

>>6647512
you have a sense of depth, which is better than a lot of beginners already. but your anatomy/proportions are weird, can't tell where the hips should be.

[Anonymous No.6647535]

>>6647534
Yes that's what I myself see, I wasn't 100% happy about how the skirt transitioned to the lower body. But I had already iterated on it enough, I need to move on to something else.

[Anonymous No.6647537]

>>6647085
There is no definite light source and the edges are very bizarre. Also her neck is thinner than her wrist which just looks off.
Might want to work on hands as well since that palm is monkey tier long.

[Anonymous No.6647539]

>>6647528
Not him, but how do her sleeves not slide off when she's walking around?

[Anonymous No.6647544]

>>6647539
Don't question it. There's nothing holding megumin's top up either, yet she's fine.

[Anonymous No.6647550]

tried a tutorial for "line of action" still a bit stiff but i like how it came out

[Anonymous No.6647562]

>>6647528
>What kind of expression is that???
the one you drew. The anime-large-grey-pupil expression

[Anonymous No.6647565]

>>6647550
based armpitchad

[Anonymous No.6647566]

>>6647562
Does she at least look as cute as I think she does

[Anonymous No.6647570]

does anyone have a tutorial for cartoony eyes?

[Anonymous No.6647572]

>>6647566
She is cute idk how cute you're thinking tho

[Anonymous No.6647582]

>>6647572
As long as she cute to others I'm happy.
Does the face look more oldschool or newschool anime, if you can tell? I think I ended up with this weird mix of the two, which saps away a tiny bit of the cute potential.

[Anonymous No.6647591]

How long is too long for a figure? Both of these took around 25-30 minutes

[Anonymous No.6647594]

Can I get a redline on how to improve the cloth flow on this characters right side, the one most exposed? It looks really amateurish.

[Anonymous No.6647595]

>>6647591
That’s decent time for both of those. The more experience you get the faster you will get.

[Anonymous No.6647614]

Fuck it we are going full coom.

[Anonymous No.6647616]

Here is the ref in case anyone wants to see how much I am fucking it up.

[Anonymous No.6647639]

>>6647594
Just try to think through the points of tension.
The basics are there but maybe you're just symbol drawing them on idk.
Just exagerate them.

[Anonymous No.6647641]

Is /asg/ the real beginner general?

[Anonymous No.6647648]

A study, took quite a bit of time though

[Anonymous No.6647651]

>>6647594
>>6647639
I would maybe do something like this, if the guy's wearing jeans.

Just do lots of studies of clothed figures, and you'll pick up on it eventually. The patterns repeat so much, that by the 100th study, you'll have pretty much seen every possible pattern

[Anonymous No.6647663]

is nude garfield porn based or cringe?

[Anonymous No.6647665]

>>6646657
I originally liked how this was coming out, but I feel like I've messed something up and can't figure it out - any advice?

[Anonymous No.6647669]

>>6647665
?

[Anonymous No.6647672]

>>6647570
>does anyone have a tutorial for cartoony eyes?
your gonna need to be more detailed than that

[Anonymous No.6647673]

>>6647449
nta, but I'm afraid of getting bad habits, I also find bad drawings not fun. I still get some drawing done, but definitely not enough.

[Anonymous No.6647675]

>>6647673
>I'm afraid of getting bad habits
Honestly, there's no such thing. If you look at beginner drawings, you'd think their entire brain was one bad habit. But you grow out of it eventually. Every mistake can, and will, be corrected, as long as you keep studying. (and many pros actually stop studying, once they make money)

[Anonymous No.6647685]

>>6647665
It's cute, I'd just change her eyes to make her look at the burger or maybe off to the side, right now it just feels like she's staring into space in a depressed kinda way lol.

[Anonymous No.6647691]

>>6647669
kek

[Anonymous No.6647715]

I've practically just begun drawing and I struggle to make a daily routine of exercises. I went through Loomis' book up to perspective and such and I've started Keys To Drawing. I figure I'd do more of Loomis exercises but I guess I'm at a point where I could just fuck around and draw

[Anonymous No.6647721]

>>6647466
what the fuck am I even looking at

[Anonymous No.6647735]

[Anonymous No.6647767]

>>6647685
she's eating goyslop
she has to be depressed

[Anonymous No.6647802]

>>6647715
The best is to combine just drawing with focused practice. Ya need both, neither alone is enough.

>>6647614
You never fixed her ass.

>>6647550
You need replication practice.

>>6647512
>Never drawn before
lol, lmao even

>>6647463
You look like you're trying to use 3D shapes, but you're using them like 2D shapes. Try some rotating objects in space exercises. Vilppu has some (ignore the intimidatingly fancy drawings and oceans of text) if you can't think of any.

>>6647445
Learning art involves a lot of frustration, and worse, the graph of frustration over time and the graph of skill over time are almost entirely desynced. Sometimes people just need to vent. Can't tell those from the perma-ngmi just off one interaction.

>>6647268
Your circle's not in perspective.

[Anonymous No.6647815]

>>6647802
>lol, lmao even
Why are you laughing at me???

[Anonymous No.6647820]

Did one quick drawing last night to at least be able to say I didn't do nothing. Referencing from a relatively anime looking source but I think my proportions still came out okay.

[Anonymous No.6647823]

>>6647815
My knowledge of beg psychology makes me think that he's accusing you of having drawn before and lying about it. Not necessarily true, I can imagine an absolute beginner drawing that if they have a good attention span and don't give up easily.

[Anonymous No.6647829]

>>6647823
It took FOREVER to figure out how to draw ANY of it
My technique is "throw random shit at the canvas until it starts to look about right"

[Anonymous No.6647844]

>>6647400
>>6647426
>haha picrel
>WORSE THAN MY BALLSACK
I can assure you, your ballsack probably looks nicer than this
>my brushe's fault
there are atleast 10 different settings for the 1 of 30 brushes that come with krita by default, figure it out dumbass, if you can't even face mistakes without deflecting blame to something you have 100% control of ? ngmi
get absolutely filtered you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.6647847]

>>6647829
good, now take note of the random shit that makes it look right and discard the ones that don't, you are now on your way out of The BEG pits. Rinse and repeat and you'll eventually get somewhere

[Anonymous No.6647849]

>>6647829
Gigachad. You are already miles ahead of a lot of people just by virtue of finishing stuff instead of grinding out meaningless sketches over and over.

I think that artwork is solid for someone with your experience, and the only thing off about it is the proportions. I did a quick edit, there's a lot of distortion around the hands and clothes so ignore that, I just think this proportion cuter. Basically from what I can tell the main issue is the length of her torso, it just seems very elongated.

Also I did a small redraw of that front section of her dress, it helps if you can show how the front part of it wraps around her body like in the ref you posted.

Another thing it could use is more saturated colors IMO.

You are doing well though Anon I hope that isn't discouraging.

[Anonymous No.6647855]

i tried to copy an ai generated image

[Anonymous No.6647856]

>>6647855
>i tried to copy an ai generated image

[Anonymous No.6647881]

Total /beg/ here. Just picked up Keys to Drawing and I'm wondering if I should bother reading through the whole thing or if I should just do the exercises?

[Anonymous No.6647886]

>>6647881
Read through the first few chapters as you go, at least.

[Anonymous No.6647887]

>>6647881
lets be honest you arent going to do either

[Anonymous No.6647892]

>>6647855
show us the side by side anon

[Anonymous No.6647894]

>>6647892
mine is really wide

[Anonymous No.6647895]

>>6647894
off topic, but I'm so glad AI art decided to specifically ruin the economics of this facial style (because it was always shit)

[Anonymous No.6647905]

>>6647894
i don’t understand the logistics of what the fuck she’s wearing

[Anonymous No.6647909]

>>6647894
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6647917]

>>6647895
same here ngl
I fucking hate this realistic-animeish style.

[Anonymous No.6647922]

>>6647895
I also really apprciate that it made anime artists in general obsolete since they were the most smug and insuffrable "artists" imaginable.

[Anonymous No.6647924]

>>6647922
>it made anime artists in general obsolete
not even close
if anything AI art only filters out the people who can only do front facing poses.

[Anonymous No.6647930]

>>6647917
>>6647895
oh god..oh fuck I thought I was alone with this opinion, thank god. Fuck this gay super glossy ugly style.

>>6647894
Stop copyiing from AI, look at these arms nigger, it's all off. If you continue you engrave these shitty things into your brain and your art will be shit forever. Copy from actual artists.

[Anonymous No.6647931]

>>6647922
He downloaded my picture! It's good right? But as that other anon said, AI can only do shitty front poses without soul or in any complex scene.

[Anonymous No.6647932]

>>6647894
did you even construct this? even with just a stick figure approximation you should get a better match for the proportions than this

[Anonymous No.6647938]

>>6647849
Nonononono you're doing it wrong

The problem and mental block I was having with the torso height/hip position was due to me being hell bent on implying its position with the gap between the top and the skirt as visible in >>6647528. But the damn forearm is in the way, didn't plan ahead. So I just gave up on it and thought it was inoperable. The pose fucked it, better luck next time.
But after letting my stupid eyes rest for a bit, I saw the obvious solution. Just make the damn skirt lines straight and have that imply where the top stops and skirt starts (which then implies the hip)!!! Such a simple solution to such a supposedly complex proportions problem!!! LITERALLY NOTHING ELSE HAD TO CHANGE
JUST ONE LINE IN THE SKIRT

>Another thing it could use is more saturated colors IMO.
No no no either. I see way too often artist fuck up cute sketches by doing a mediocre ass job at coloring them. So I'm not even going to try, I can hardly draw, why do you think I'd pull colors off???
A flat concept-arty pastel looks good by default, it keeps the lineart dominant, but also improves the readability by a whole lot.

[Anonymous No.6647952]

>>6647614
Very unappealing. Is this what mutts find attractive nowadays?

[Anonymous No.6647957]

A8W0SJ

[Anonymous No.6647959]

>>6647665
The thing that I noticed imemdiatly is the thich hair, just doesn't seem right, because the hair on top of the head is flat while the sides are incredibly voluminous and thick, doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.6647966]

>>6647570
something like this?

[Anonymous No.6647967]

>>6647802
Compare it to this.
I did try to fix the ass.

[Anonymous No.6647968]

Why is drawing with a tablet (even one with a screen) so difficult? I feel like my skill nosedives when i try to transition. I guess its got something to do with brushes

[Anonymous No.6647969]

>>6647938
While the other anon squished her a bit too her torso still looks very long to me here.

[Anonymous No.6647971]

>>6647938
>The problem and mental block I was having with the torso height/hip position was due to me being hell bent on implying its position with the gap between the top and the skirt
>Just make the damn skirt lines straight and have that imply where the top stops and skirt starts
>A flat concept-arty pastel looks good by default, it keeps the lineart dominant, but also improves the readability by a whole lot.

Yeah "never drew before" btw

[Anonymous No.6647978]

>>6647971
I fucking hate decent people larping as beginners.

[Anonymous No.6647979]

>>6647957
Your stuff is usually really nice so I'm sure there's something there but I'm not seeing it fa m

[Anonymous No.6647980]

>>6647922
why was this post deleted
also I struggle to understand why you can find X artists to be particuarly obnoxious? did you fell for a bait post like >6647952 calling your art too "western" and you think everyone who drew anime acts like this?

[Anonymous No.6647983]

[Anonymous No.6647987]

>>6647917
>>6647930
Yeah, I dunno if that style of painting faces has a name or a "school" in the broad sense, but personally I associate it with Chinese (especially) or Korean (less so) artists. I always thought it looked generic and awful, god bless AI for murdering it in cold blood.

[Anonymous No.6647988]

>>6647969
Her hip to me looks to be right below her elbows, where it should be, right? Are you sure you don't actually want longer legs? That I might agree with.

>>6647971
>The problem and mental block I was having with the torso height/hip position was due to me being hell bent on implying its position with the gap between the top and the skirt
>Just make the damn skirt lines straight and have that imply where the top stops and skirt starts
Is there anything here that a beginner couldn't figure out? I'm merely describing what I'm seeing. And using fAnCy vocab from my other hobbies.
>A flat concept-arty pastel looks good by default, it keeps the lineart dominant, but also improves the readability by a whole lot.
I've looked at A LOT of weebshit art, and observed a pattern. What's so strange about that?

[Anonymous No.6647993]

>>6647849
would be perfect if the shoulders were narrower

[Anonymous No.6647995]

>>6647971
Lol, I was betting on him having been a careful tracer but now he’s definitely larping.

>>6647938
The lower torso is, in fact, too long. Maybe shorten the legs and see how that changes things.

[Anonymous No.6648003]

>>6647735
oooooh very cute!

[Anonymous No.6648007]

>>6647971
See? I thought I had an idea about what I was doing but I really don't

>>6647995
I'm really struggling to see what you're seeing. Can you paint over where you think her skeleton would be or something like that?
At least tell me, just changing the skirt >>6647938 vs >>6647512 improved it right?

[Anonymous No.6648014]

>>6647938
le spaghetti girl

[Anonymous No.6648016]

>>6647894
>1 hour on the titties and coochie
>less than 20 minutes on the rest of the body.
You absolutely horny bastard.

[Anonymous No.6648017]

>>6648014
I DONT UNDERSTAND

[Anonymous No.6648026]

WHY IS DRAWING EVEN A FUCKING CHAIR INDUCING HEADACHE AM I RETARDED?

[Anonymous No.6648029]

>>6648026
Were you looking at a real life chair? If so you could use sighting to help with angles

[Anonymous No.6648035]

>>6648026
I think the line for the front of the chair and the back of the chair don’t match.

[Anonymous No.6648039]

>>6648026
sovl

[Anonymous No.6648042]

>>6648026
I tried it myself, not perfect but I think one issue is that outer line on the far side of the rear of the chair.

[Anonymous No.6648043]

>>6648026
the back of the seat lines up to the two posts differently. i would try drawing more organic life, manmade structures use perfect shapes and straight lines and almost require a ruler and measuring to not look off

[Anonymous No.6648044]

>>6648042
God damned iPhone rotation.

[Anonymous No.6648047]

>>6648026
you are on digital right?
now drag the photo of the reference on top of your picture, reduce opacity until both your drawing and your reference overlays rougly with each other and compare the differences.

[Anonymous No.6648050]

Tried to draw myself today, it's not very good.

[Anonymous No.6648057]

>>6648050
ARE YOU A GIRL

[Anonymous No.6648062]

>>6648057
No obviously a palmtree
>>6648050
I wanna touch your qt coconuts

[Anonymous No.6648075]

[Anonymous No.6648077]

>>6648057
I think i made it look too masculine because the hair is too short (yes).
>>6648062
Visual Representation.

[Anonymous No.6648080]

>>6648075
Alot of references from @Elf_Anon
>>6648077
>Visual Representation.
Nice.

[Anonymous No.6648085]

>>6647938
I seriously don't understand
I tried counting heads and bones but everything just checks out ok
How can I understand??

[Anonymous No.6648087]

>>6648080
I expected something nice not an AIslop account jesus.

[Anonymous No.6648089]

>>6648087
I'm sorry, I had his tab open from a self promotion thread.
I like it and it was fun to do.
Maybe I just need to look at artists I like more.

[Anonymous No.6648090]

>>6648050
Pretty average beginner portrait, just symbol drawn like every beginner

[Anonymous No.6648091]

>>6648085
>I seriously don't understand
>I tried counting heads
Did you consider that when drawing a younger character in an anime style, their head will be proportionately larger than an adult? You were probably using the big anime loli head like a normal human head when stacking.

[Anonymous No.6648100]

>>6646938
My labor ends.

[Anonymous No.6648111]

>>6647971
When people say this but produce results like that, if they aren't completely bullshitting I think its best to assume they have an artistic background but its their first time attempting to take it seriously, or at best they did some sort of photobashing with other peoples artwork to make something they can work with. I have things from when I "didn't draw" that look somewhat competent because it does take you like 7 hours to cobble it together. The denial about it is weird though.

[Anonymous No.6648137]

>>6647894
>using anigay as reference
>using AI anime shit as reference
wake me the fuck up right now I want this nightmare to end

[Anonymous No.6648141]

>>6648090
I will take that! See you tomorrow with portait number 2.

[Anonymous No.6648144]

>>6647967
you didn't fix shit you bulbous ass drawing mongrel
put your dick away, open your eyes and look at your reference and try drawing it properly this time

[Anonymous No.6648149]

whats with the anti ai meme?

[Anonymous No.6648193]

>>6648085
Try sketching her figure without clothes. Where did you place the knees btw?

[Anonymous No.6648216]

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

This is a troll guide right? He is not seriously expecting me to fucking draw bridgemans book two fucking times? His drawings are really unappealing to me

[Anonymous No.6648217]

>>6648091
How many heads tall is she even supposed to be? I count at most 6 which still seems within reason, especially when looking at various art out there.
Honestly the amount of variation I see in proportions in art that I like is crazy now that I'm taking note of it.
I wish I had a fresh set of eyeballs.

>>6648193
The knees should probably be partially visible there. Didn't bother to fill every single detail since I was quickly modifying the pic to see if any of it even worked.
I should just stop with this reimu already and move on. It served its purpose well, taught me many things.
I will be able to see in a week or two when my eyes have reset, what exactly that is you're seeing.

>>6648111
I used no real references (esp not tracing), no nothing, zero "cheating". I want to see just what can I do as-is. Thus all the proportion problems. Definitely gonna refer to something going forward. If I care to continue drawing that is.
My background in art is being a chronically online anchientfaggot with an addiction to cute touhou girls. I can only assume the amount of art (and art practice material) I've seen and judged gives me an idea what looks good or not, thought that clearly gets me only so far.
I might have some knack for 3D stuff because I have a background in graphics programming though ..

[Anonymous No.6648239]

>>6648217
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.6648244]

>>6648239

[Anonymous No.6648252]

[Anonymous No.6648254]

FUCK feet

[Anonymous No.6648262]

>>6648254
Why yes I do, how did you know?

[Anonymous No.6648263]

>>6648254
*starts jacking off*

[Anonymous No.6648316]

>>6648252
Yuo would do well to practice hands a bit more.
Nice stuff.
>>6648254
That's why you start with hands.
Then you're like huh feet are pretty ok.

[Anonymous No.6648333]

begun learning colouring

[Anonymous No.6648369]

>>6648333
>>6648252
>>6648217
>>6648075
get the fuck out of /beg/

[Anonymous No.6648373]

>>6648369
based
death to /int/s

[Anonymous No.6648376]

>>6648369
>>6648373
every single one of these is /beg/

[Anonymous No.6648377]

>>6648376
shut up

[Anonymous No.6648381]

>>6648369
but i am beg wtf

[Anonymous No.6648383]

>>6648373
>>6648369
if all the ints leave, who will give advice to the rest of us

[Anonymous No.6648388]

[Anonymous No.6648391]

How do I learn to draw and watch TV, or at least have it running in the background, at the same time? I've seen people do it.

[Anonymous No.6648398]

>>6648369
Based

[Anonymous No.6648404]

UGH

[Anonymous No.6648405]

i drew something and it was straight cheeks

[Anonymous No.6648406]

>>6648316
>Yuo would do well to practice hands a bit more.
Thanks, will do. I was drawing a lot of hands at some point, but when I actually checked frequency it was something like a good chunk once every two weeks or something.
Maybe I should just draw full characters, since copying faces is faster now, and most everything else needs more work.

[Anonymous No.6648472]

I’m trying to do more complex perspectives, how does this look?

[Anonymous No.6648473]

>>6648406
Well your faces look really nice and the second thing people notice are the hands, at least that's what I was told.
Hands really need their own focus and you'll neglect them when you do full bodies.
At least I do.

[Anonymous No.6648484]

>>6648472
Did you use a reference?
Could we see it if you did?

[Anonymous No.6648487]

>>6648484
I didnt use a reference - I know I should but I tend to get a pose stuck in my mind and then get frustrated when i can find the right reference lol

[Anonymous No.6648497]

bros.. can you help me ?, the right hand of my drawing is a bit off and i dont know why ?

[Anonymous No.6648500]

>>6647675
Thanks for input.
Will keep trying!

[Anonymous No.6648507]

>>6648487
There's Hyper Angle, you should be able to find them in the books thread or the IC torrent.
Legs def need to be longer

[Anonymous No.6648509]

>>6648497
Go find a mirror. Make that pose. Use your other hand to take a selfie. Now you have a reference.

>>6648472
>>6648487
Same advice. Though it doesn't work as well for pushed perspectives due to camera reasons.

[Anonymous No.6648523]

>>6646657
I just tried to ctrl+z IRL.

[Anonymous No.6648529]

>>6648497
I just tried to bend my hand this way, it's not possible. Try to bend it a bit upward.

[Anonymous No.6648535]

>>6648523
i double tap on paper regularly

[Anonymous No.6648584]

need some advice
i was just trying out some theories in watercolor for pic related, and thought that it would be great to ask /ic/
the idea is that the characters are lit by candlelight, so a warm light source, but with probably a hint more red for aesthetic reasons
im generally content with how this is coming out, but its obviously missing something more. ideally id come back to the shaded areas and hit it with more cool gray to darken and tone it
this is just a rough try (on a print of the actual picture) so i can come back to another black and white print and start from square one
i appreciate any input

[Anonymous No.6648587]

>>6648584
oops, need a pic

[Anonymous No.6648594]

>>6648509
>>6648529

Thanks anon, ugh i need more ref
its getting bether i think...

[Anonymous No.6648645]

>>6648472
the legs/feet have the very common error of being too long and too far forward

[Anonymous No.6648647]

pencil + paper goes very hard. feels much faster than digital as well.
pic not related

[Anonymous No.6648648]

how are my gestures/wimmins. am i doing anything right?

[Anonymous No.6648653]

>>6648648
you wont know if a gesture is good until you try to use it as a base to complete a drawing

[Anonymous No.6648659]

How's my composition?

[Anonymous No.6648665]

>>6648648
Based sycra chad

[Anonymous No.6648667]

>>6648659
Work on your drawing ability. Vilppu drawing manual would do you lots of good

[Anonymous No.6648674]

>>6648659
yoo is that madness
sick

[Anonymous No.6648690]

I’m doing this study, how do you this is going so far ?

[Anonymous No.6648697]

>>6648690
Pay attention to negative spaces, and most of your angles are too shallow

[Anonymous No.6648722]

I popped a small chub after I finished is this a good thing or a bad thing

[Anonymous No.6648747]

>>6648647
I’d sex that girl

[Anonymous No.6648751]

Haven't been here since 2020, what happened to the guy who drew 10000+ boxes? did he ascended yet?

[Anonymous No.6648756]

>>6648751
he gained sentience

[Anonymous No.6648769]

>>6647639
>>6647651
Thank you for the responses but I meant this fold in his shirt. That’s the one that really doesn’t lol good.

[Anonymous No.6648773]

>>6646657
How are my cars? All from life

[Anonymous No.6648775]

>>6648773

[Anonymous No.6648814]

I bit off more than I could chew.

[Anonymous No.6648837]

>>6648722
channel this feeling all good artists have it.

[Anonymous No.6648846]

>>6648837
just finished left sketch and I had to bust to continue drawing

[Anonymous No.6648851]

>>6648697
Thanks ! That was quite helpful
Here is how it is going

[Anonymous No.6648854]

>>6648814

[Anonymous No.6648864]

meine neger, should I enable smoothing? I have struggle with my screen tablet to get smooth lines because it's so slippery compared to paper. What % should I use in photoshop to simulate drawing lines on paper?

[Anonymous No.6648871]

>>6648846
kek I get that all the time with big booba models (pic related)

[Anonymous No.6648886]

[Anonymous No.6648887]

aaand i'm done for the day, see you tomorrow fellow art friends

[Anonymous No.6648889]

>>6648871
I...
I think I've drawn her already.

[Anonymous No.6648890]

>>6648507
>>6648645
Which one looks better? The right side is more like what I wanted to draw originally but I feel like the left looks better

[Anonymous No.6648893]

>>6648890
Right's more appealing but I see what you were going for with the left.

[Anonymous No.6648896]

It was an experiment in gel pen hatching.
I might try that other pic later.

[Anonymous No.6648907]

>>6648890
Are you trying for an above view or is she bending forward?

[Anonymous No.6648923]

>>6648907
View from above - I was inspired by this piece and I probably should have used it as the reference in retrospect :/

[Anonymous No.6648993]

>>6647894
Give me source BRO!....

[Anonymous No.6649026]

fugg ass

[Anonymous No.6649037]

should you do more rough quick studies or rather detailed ones to learn faster?

[Anonymous No.6649049]

Did this with marker. I want to do tattoos one day (far off).

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6649096]

>>6647400
you do not know the fundamentals of art. start there.

[Anonymous No.6649102]

>>6648814
I don't think the perspective of the building matches the girl, it feels like eye level is pretty close to her head.

[Anonymous No.6649113]

[Anonymous No.6649117]

Drawing on the right side of the brain is a good starting book yeah?
Or should I start with another one and read DRSB later?

[Anonymous No.6649125]

I have no fucking idea

[Anonymous No.6649130]

>>6649125
is that a dog

[Anonymous No.6649132]

>>6647979
does it makes more sence? :]

[Anonymous No.6649147]

>>6649132
first glance: a pot falling off a stove?
2 seconds later: a crane? spaceship engine repair?
10 seconds later: oh look, astronaut!

having busy shadows and shapes is hurting the readability of your pic. try to make it clear even without any details or rendering first. Your crane/claw has tangents with the background ship, making it hard to read.

found pic rel for almost the same idea sans claw

[Anonymous No.6649153]

>>6648890
draw za boxes and cylinders

[Anonymous No.6649155]

>>6649130
I dunno man, i just follow the advice of just draw no think and that came out. Maybe i'm hungry, horny and i love ?dogs and schoolgirl.

[Anonymous No.6649167]

>>6649147
aww, yea, this when made by someone actually competent :D what it supposed to mean is big one is dead and small one is scavenger

[Anonymous No.6649244]

>>6649117
It's not meant to be read, just do the exercises. The text is worthless.

[Anonymous No.6649264]

>>6646657

[Anonymous No.6649278]

[Anonymous No.6649316]

>>6649278
very symbol drawn

[Anonymous No.6649317]

>>6648042
stop drawing in such tiny areas, you're hiding from mistakes by ommiting space for mistakes. use the whole page anon
I should know, I had this problem too

[Anonymous No.6649341]

>>6649317
i have the opposite problem where i start drawing and a few lines later find out i'm making it way too big for my canvas and have to resize everything

[Anonymous No.6649355]

>>6649316
That's a good thing or a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.6649402]

>>6649355
bad, but everyone does it at first. check the sticky

[Anonymous No.6649418]

>>6649341
plan your drawings man, get the general shape of what's gonna be on the canvas and make a polygon around it as long as the polygon fits into the canvas you should be good.
good planning makes everything clear at the very beginning for the person working. hope that helps

[Anonymous No.6649427]

Superbeg but making big bucks.. feels good man

[Anonymous No.6649435]

>>6649427
cringe porn niche I don't want to know about?

[Anonymous No.6649442]

>>6649317
It's the scale where the pencil line is bold enough that it looks right to me.

[Anonymous No.6649456]

How the fuck do I keep going. I'm stumped with trying to replicate this.

[Anonymous No.6649459]

>>6649456
Pay attention to negative space

[Anonymous No.6649470]

>>6649459
I'll pay them more mind next time.
I feel retarded asking this, but do I have to use my arm to draw lines? It feels really uncomfortable, but almost all the guides say to limit wrist usage and focus on arm.

[Anonymous No.6649496]

:D
yea on first bw craft is super invisible. second attmpt a bit more clear but tangent on tangent

[Anonymous No.6649620]

>>6649427
share your secret NOW!!

[Anonymous No.6649630]

>>6649620
Moe style and establishing a client base
And sorry. Im not a superbeg, just a purebeg.

[Anonymous No.6649654]

>>6649630
Is picrel your usual stuff? And clients pay for it? No offense but it's pretty difficult to imagine. Are you some kind of marketing genius?

[Anonymous No.6649697]

>>6649456
>How the fuck do I keep going. I'm stumped with trying to replicate this.
It's shapes all the way down.

[Anonymous No.6649721]

every person I knew who was good at art and went to art school came out way, way worse at art

it's an enigma

[Anonymous No.6649768]

>>6649654
I think this one actually came out above average for my skill.
Also I think you overestimate the artistic evaluation abilities of normalfags. There are tons of people who are better or worse than me doing commisions, for more or less money, most people will be fine paying under 20 bucks for even the shittiest most worst artists imaginable just because they want... something idk what they want. I mean like, from the normalfags perspective, throwing away 10 or 20 bucks on a piece of shit art piece is fine because thats just like a coffee or a sandwich kind of money, and however it turns out I guess they are satisfied with it.
Point is its nice to be able to draw and get paid for it, because I am always learning.
Also, everyone who has commissioned me paid for my highest tier, full render. I drew this one >>6649113 and something like this I would charge $2.50 NOT ADVERTISING and yes, for the record I do think that I am overcharging 50-75 percent of my actual arts value

[Anonymous No.6649805]

hey guys lol

[Anonymous No.6649806]

>>6649768
I see, thanks for the insight. Very nice that you can make a few bucks off your art. Can we see some of your fully rendered works? I'm pretty curious now.

[Anonymous No.6649807]

Should i practice on paper or on computer?

[Anonymous No.6649810]

>>6649807
what a retarded question

[Anonymous No.6649813]

so much disgusting coomer art, can't you stay on /h/ or the other threads?

[Anonymous No.6649814]

>>6649810
answer?

[Anonymous No.6649821]

>>6649806
I drew this one a few weeks ago (its not a commision)
also >>6649630 , the skin is uncolored because that's what the client wanted

[Anonymous No.6649844]

>>6649810
I don't understand why you have to be so hostile. I am asking because i am new and i want advice.

[Anonymous No.6649860]

>>6649807
Some people will tell you paper is better. I don't have a personal take. The best is whichever one makes you actually practice.

[Anonymous No.6649879]

>>6649807
>computer

[Anonymous No.6649913]

Why are all art beginner books so old? Right Side of the Brain is from the 70s, Keys isn't much younger, Loomis predates fucking world war 2. Vilppu is astonishingly modern, despite being close to 30 years old.

Like, I get that the fundamentals themselves haven't changed. But that doesn't mean there's not better ways to teach them; content and delivery are separate areas. And all those old works (especially aside from Vilppu) are at a huge disconnect from modern learners - obviously there's the physical/digital divide, many beginners nowadays are digital-first and/or only. There's also a gap in intended audience, most of those old books are aimed at people who already know how to draw, the notion that most beginners are starting from literally zero is a fundamentally modern phenomenon. And of course, information aside, the language and subject matter is often dated; since they were written by somebody born in the 1930-50s and are being read by someone born in the 80s-2000s.

All that is to say, even if there's nothing worth changing in the core content of those old books, you'd think somebody would've updated them for the digital age and made a killing. I mean, half the posts in /asg/ are because one Chinese dude repackaged Keys to Drawing for a modern audience and it built a cult following.

[Anonymous No.6649927]

>>6649913
> physical/digital divide
there is no divide

> aimed at people who already know how to draw
no? keys to drawing is for pure begs. as is right side of the brain, etc. A lot of books exist for pure begs already.

> people starting from zero is modern
what? people have been born with zero experience for as long as humans have existed. teaching materials have always had this in mind.

the /asg/ thing is because moon runes are fetishized here

[Anonymous No.6649928]

>>6649913
There are hundreds of books about drawing, design, animation, sculpting and various apps like painter, blender, photoshop and so on, most of them very modern.

Pic related. Just sorted amazon drawing book section by publish date. It is just nobody read and or heard about them so nobody can vouch for their quality. Meanwhile some books survived the passage of time for a century and every other pro learned from them. So it is easy choice between
>brand new book nobody ever head of
>classic big name book everybody recommends

[Anonymous No.6649937]

>>6649913
people make video courses now instead of books

[Anonymous No.6649974]

>>6649913
>I mean, half the posts in /asg/ are because one Chinese dude repackaged Keys to Drawing for a modern audience and it built a cult following.
And this is where?

[Anonymous No.6649976]

>>6649928
>>6649913

I found that "how to draw anime/manga" have the best explanations, bridgeman for instance is a fucking meme, a trap set up by crabs only hardcore autists can grind trough that my tip: buy books that teach the things you actually want to draw. Wanna draw cars? Buy a book about drawing cars. Wanna draw manga? Buy a book about drawing manga, simple asa.

[Anonymous No.6649978]

>>6649976
>I found that "how to draw anime/manga" have the best explanations
any specific book endorsements?

[Anonymous No.6649979]

>>6649976
Gonna buy a how to draw Goku book from Latin America now.

[Anonymous No.6649981]

>>6649844
because your question is retarded
both work perfectly fine now quit being dumb and go draw

[Anonymous No.6649986]

Today I tried to do a bit more detail but I think it looks less like me than the first one.

[Anonymous No.6649992]

>>6649978
Just go on amazon and pick the best rated one

[Anonymous No.6650006]

Today i drew an ear all kinds of wrong
... and other miscellaneous mistakes

[Anonymous No.6650010]

>>6650007
>>6650007
>>6650007

new baguette
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[Anonymous No.6650011]

>>6650006
you have inadvertently made the mouth look like its transparent

[Anonymous No.6650022]

>>6650011
Kek
Yeah....