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jesserintaylor Anonymous Fri May 5 15:09:11 2023 No.6640587 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts on Jess Erin Taylor's art?

She's got a highly distinctive style IMO, and she's pretty notable on social media. Last I checked she grabbed the attention of Guillermo del Toro

https://www.instagram.com/jesserintaylor/

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>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 15:11:26 2023 No.6640590 File: 2.28 MB, 3840x2048, jessica-taylor-moleskine-332.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 15:15:49 2023 No.6640594 >>6640587 Very cool. Looks like a more creative Eliza Ivanova

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 15:15:52 2023 No.6640595 >>6640587 Pearls before swine.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 15:20:10 2023 No.6640598 Why don't more self-taught artists draw like this? I've noticed it's mostly the atelier fags who learn to render so well

Anonymous Fri May 5 15:27:31 2023 No.6640600

>>6640598
Kek because you have to be a retarded masochist to do a 30 hour cast study on your own, and because it's hard to do with 1 pair of eyes. It's seriously important to have someone experienced guiding you along for something like this.
On your own, you need seriously mentally ill levels of obsession and self-hatred and you have to rely on shitty unqualified opinions from randos online unless you know some good artists who can chime in.

It's fun when you are in an atelier and when the teacher is competent. And when there's others around you and you encourage each other and share thoughts on each others work. Alone it's just miserable and difficult, no matter how much you love drawing working on a purely technical drawing for dozens of hours is mindnumbingly tedious and you will need to put in like 2x the effort you would if you were in a competent atelier.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 15:36:11 2023 No.6640609 >>6640600 I can't even imagine how that can take 30 hours. There must be a more efficient way to learn this shit

Anonymous Fri May 5 15:41:45 2023 No.6640616

>>6640609
30 hours is 90% of poking at a piece of paper with a needle and then when that needle wears down after 15 strokes, you need to sharpen it again and then you autistically dab the paper with a kneaded eraser in case you made a mark too dark. Repeat 500000 times.

Anonymous Fri May 5 15:43:14 2023 No.6640618
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>>6640609
Yeah I understand that but it takes dozens of hours. The drawings in OP are definitely done faster and the artist uses a lot of shorthands for shading, but something like pic related can easily take dozens of hours and doing studies like it is where you learn to do what the artist in OP does.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:04:43 2023 No.6640636 >>6640590 this looks digital, is it?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:06:15 2023 No.6640640 >>6640587 She, Jens Claessens and Eliza Ivanova are all so great at this style

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:10:36 2023 No.6640645 >>6640636 It's AI.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:17:54 2023 No.6640652 >>6640636 Looks like a combination of trad and digital

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:18:49 2023 No.6640653 >>6640618 Its now two months since i started one of these things thinking it would take two weeks at best. Doesnt help that i am bored of it and procrastinating

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:21:31 2023 No.6640655 >>6640616 How many of these cast drawings do the atelier fags finish? Sounds like potentially thousands of hours of needle poking

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:27:59 2023 No.6640662 >>6640655 Probably less than 10, possibly less than 5 even.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:28:05 2023 No.6640663 >>6640653 Can you post a pic? I'm curious about what this looks like unfinished

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 16:30:43 2023 No.6640664 >>6640587 Looks like a self shill thread

Anonymous Fri May 5 16:34:01 2023 No.6640667
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>>6640662
That's not too bad. So 150 hours. Without a teacher it'll take much longer, so say 5 times as long. That's 750 hours. If you draw every day for 8 hours, it would take a little over 3 months

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 18:03:09 2023 No.6640785 >>6640663 i am not nearly as good, sorry if i made you think that

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 18:10:45 2023 No.6640790 >>6640600 >>6640618 i thought to learn how to render you just need to study the bargue plates? this is just if you want to become a photocopier no?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 18:11:53 2023 No.6640791 >>6640790 The whole photocopier meme as killed so many artist's careers lmao, people unironically think studying rendering at a high level will automatically turn them into instagram celebrity portrait artists.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 18:42:44 2023 No.6640813 >>6640587 How do you even build such marks? I can never quite get this look, I lack the boldness or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 18:55:54 2023 No.6640824 >>6640813 Soft pencils 2B-4B, Stump, smearing, kneaded eraser, small erasers You can get by with just a soft pencil and an eraser actually, drawing is mostly skill and technique

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 19:01:47 2023 No.6640830 >>6640587 >>6640590 They should keep hiding the hands.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 20:04:23 2023 No.6640878 >>6640830 Crab>>6640830

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 20:36:41 2023 No.6640922 >>6640791 I fell for that meme. Do you anons know of any courses that teach this high level rendering?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 20:40:25 2023 No.6640927 >>6640645 t. retarded crab

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 21:10:05 2023 No.6640970 File: 235 KB, 407x270, Screenshot_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6640878 omegakek

>>	Anonymous Fri May 5 21:10:56 2023 No.6640971 File: 200 KB, 340x268, Screenshot_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6640878 my sides

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 06:41:22 2023 No.6641475 >>6640970 She still mogs you.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 08:27:07 2023 No.6641564 >>6641475 definitely not in the hands department lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 08:31:00 2023 No.6641565 Reminds me of Ahmed Aldooris work if he was actually competent. >>6641564 Dunning kruger + retarded + autistic obsession with detail + no idea about composition and design + doestndraw + theory fag + seethe + mald + ratio.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 08:41:01 2023 No.6641570 She's good but I wouldn't say it's that distinctive, check out those ImagineFX anthologies on the panda, there's a dozen people with similar styles

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 09:47:01 2023 No.6641615 >>6640813 She has a tutorial on yt if it helps: https://youtu.be/Fabk53B-vEg She uses a carpenter pencil to lay down dark values.

Anonymous Sat May 6 10:10:05 2023 No.6641630

>>6641565
I mean, they seem competent in everything except hands. I assume it's because they aren't very good at drawing stuff from imagination, which is something common with artists that draw more realistically. In these two examples of hands, they did a very very poor job. Are you denying that?
Also, why are you so offended that I pointed out clear flaws in their art?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 10:59:38 2023 No.6641659 >>6641615 thanks anon, that's informative. I think i'm just too careful and precious when i lay in value

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 11:49:18 2023 No.6641698 >>6640590 Those faces, heh I know who you are now. Why the self promotion thread though? Congratz on getting mention by the dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 12:12:29 2023 No.6641710 >>6640664 >>6641698 why would she need to promote herself on 4chan of all places

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 12:28:59 2023 No.6641721 >>6641710 Right keep talking in the third person, you do you Probably also made the interesting faces thread a while back. i like your work you autismo. high /beg/ I'd say

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 12:40:25 2023 No.6641728 >>6641721 take your meds faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 13:33:27 2023 No.6641786 File: 136 KB, 1080x1349, 80355365_163174961631583_4737217620359968420_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6641630 FWIW she can draw hands pretty well if she has a reference (picrel)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 13:50:22 2023 No.6641808 File: 1.66 MB, 1440x1555, arnold_drawing.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6641630 >>6641786 Tho she does trace where convenient, see gif

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 13:57:17 2023 No.6641819 >>6641808 Wow, that’s lame.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 14:00:15 2023 No.6641822 >>6641819 I mean, it's no different to rotoscoping, just with a still image instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 14:15:31 2023 No.6641843 >>6641808 I thought that was Viktor Kalvachev's work for a second

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 15:07:45 2023 No.6641896 >>6641786 >>6641808 Case in point.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 15:29:59 2023 No.6641914 >>6641808 Using photo reference isn' tracing you stupid nigger. It's really not that hard to get the main measurements in the ball park with eyeballing

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 15:31:09 2023 No.6641916 >>6640587 thoughts on you drawing and posting your work?

Anonymous Sat May 6 15:51:05 2023 No.6641932

>>6641914

>It's really not that hard to get the main measurements in the ball park with eyeballing

theres getting the proportions in the ballpark, and then theres the lines falling almost exactly on the silhouette

either way if its not that hard, then pyw?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 15:52:49 2023 No.6641934 >>6641914 lol

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 15:57:03 2023 No.6641936 >>6641914 anon, i agree with you that refs are fine but if you look at the gif another anon posted the torsos of the man line up flawlessly 1:1; that doesn't happen with eyeballing, no matter how good you are with measuring.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 16:02:08 2023 No.6641938 >>6640587 >they all look depressed u just know

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 16:19:58 2023 No.6641956 >>6641938 Know what?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 16:42:01 2023 No.6641988 >>6641936 >lines up flawlessly Except that it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 17:05:52 2023 No.6642007 >>6641914 These are the same people claiming AI is stealing art.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 17:24:22 2023 No.6642031 >>6641914 that's traced dude

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 18:26:02 2023 No.6642080 >>6641988 look at the torso retard, it does. If you can't see then I don't know what you're doing on a board for visual art

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 18:43:03 2023 No.6642099 >>6642080 If you've done a couple of Bargues this really isn't all that amazing

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 20:41:21 2023 No.6642254 >>6641822 Still lame for tracing someone's work without any mention and probably without any rights to it

>>	Anonymous Sat May 6 22:15:08 2023 No.6642385 >>6640922 Alright I'm going through the shading course by Dorian Iten right now. Do you anons have any experience with it?

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