/mmg/ - Manga Making General

[Anonymous No.6640304]

The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>6623219

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://mega.nz/folder/9h1mUYSJ#8sJoO57nMP_JhjnujBXkpQ
https://www.naokiurasawa.com/
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

[Anonymous No.6640306]

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to [e-mail], however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

[Anonymous No.6640310]

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

[Anonymous No.6640311]

And a new addition, platforms to host your manga:

>Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
https://medibang.com/mpc/

>Webtoons
https://www.webtoons.com/en/

>Tapas
https://tapas.io

>ComicFury
https://comicfury.com

>GlobalComix
https://globalcomix.com

>Medibang
https://medibang.com

>Pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/

>Mangadex
https://mangadex.org

>Twitter
https://twitter.com

>Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com

>DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com

>Your own website

[Anonymous No.6640313]

Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma19-overflowing-tears-silent-manga-audition/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

[Anonymous No.6640317]

>>6640304
Tentative addition to the next OP, Methods of learning Japanese:

https://learnjapanese.moe/
http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/all-japanese-all-the-time-ajatt-how-to-learn-japanese-on-your-own-having-fun-and-to-fluency/

Do you think these resources should be added?

Also, if anyone has any suggestions for resources, pleas tag the op so we can see it next time. (Though, I think /asg/ covers most everything, drawing-wise)

[Anonymous No.6640326]

>>6640304
Man, I just finished reading that. It's great motivation.

[Anonymous No.6640332]

>>6640326
Isn’t it? One of the best mangas imo. It leaves you with an empty feeling, but also spurs you on to work harder, for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6640356]

Are Ramia and Dog Ningen really the only successful manga-like webcomics thus far...?

[Anonymous No.6640359]

>>6640356
i haven't heard of either

[Anonymous No.6640360]

>>6640356
neither match the sheer financial success of megatokyo

[Anonymous No.6640454]

>>6640360
>megatokyo
goes to show you something considering how bad megatokyo was

[Anonymous No.6640521]

island beach page

[Anonymous No.6640523]

>>6640454
that's the advantage of getting in early

[Anonymous No.6640530]

non-scene

[Anonymous No.6640599]

>>6640530
nice I like it

[Anonymous No.6640620]

>>6640530
now we're drawing with soul

[Anonymous No.6640622]

>>6640356
Did Dog Ningen get popular first and then they started selling physical copies, or was it the other way around?

[Anonymous No.6640629]

>>6640360
>Fred Gallagher twitter account: 6k followers
>TheGoldenSmurf twitter account: 205k followers
mmm...

[Anonymous No.6640633]

Are there any good one page gag manga comics i could look into involving super heros or villains? I need some inspiration for a webcomic idea I want to work on. Not sure if this is new ground or something.

[Anonymous No.6640635]

>>6640454
If current me went back to 2007 I would have made several popular comics. Standards were much lower back then.

[Anonymous No.6640644]

>>6640530
i love the watercolor rendering sm, blog?

[Anonymous No.6640697]

[Anonymous No.6640801]

[Anonymous No.6640804]

>>6640801
Nice colors

[Anonymous No.6640991]

>>6640629
but has he been able to swindle his audience out of nearly three hundred thousand dollars in one fell swoop

[Anonymous No.6641032]

>Last April Fools, decide to have some creative fun
>Draw a bunch of my work's main characters genderbent
>Recieves almost three times the attention as most of my other drawings of them
>They were all females that were turned male

[Anonymous No.6641048]

>>6641032
sell your soul for the fujoshi audience

[Anonymous No.6641073]

>lately i realized that i have been questioning every single letter and line that i try to do
>remember when anons told me that I'm mentally splited
Fuck i wish that i didn't went under so much abuse to at least try to write normally


Also, is fine if the story starts in a "normal" boring day and goes from bad to worse in like 8? Pages or is too much

[Anonymous No.6641105]

>>6641073
Take the Shonen-Jump pill. Make 2 page stories. A bunch of them. You'll begin to learn what really matters, and what doesn't, and what you can pull off, and what you can't.

[Anonymous No.6641152]

So all paper sizes like B4, B5, A5, etc are all the same proportions right? The height to width ratio is the same for all of them but they're just bigger or smaller correct? Just wondering since I've been told B4 is the industry standard in japan, so it should be fine to use B4 or anything bigger if they're all proportionally the same.

[Anonymous No.6641164]

>>6641152
Bs are different proportions to As. But within the same letter grade, yes the proportions are the same.

[Anonymous No.6641174]

>>6641164
Nice ok, thanks

[Anonymous No.6641178]

>>6641073
best writers were post war kids, man up faggot

[Anonymous No.6641186]

>>6641164
>>6641152
This is incorrect, A and B paper sizes both have the same aspect ratio of 1.41, repeating of course.
Both are half as wide as they are tall, and each successive number in the respective series is half the size of the previous, so A5 is half of A4, and B5 is half of B4.
A is slightly smaller than B of the same number, so A4 is smaller than B4 (by 40mm, width).

[Anonymous No.6641188]

>>6641186
Oh, my bad then. I didn't check their sizes, but I know for a fact that the aspect ratio of the print margins are different (at least in CSP's defaults) as I've had to transfer storyboards from A4 to B4 canvases as recently as yesterday.

[Anonymous No.6641206]

>>6641188
>the aspect ratio of the print margins are different (at least in CSP's defaults)
The margins will be a set size (probably 2.5 or 3cm) all around, sometimes with a smaller margin at the top/bottom.
That changes the aspect ratio since the margin isn't proportional to the dimensions of the paper.

[Anonymous No.6641209]

>>6641048
I think most of my audience is just a bunch of fags. Which balances out, because I am also a fag, so I don't have to sell my soul for shit.

[Anonymous No.6641256]

>>6641105
I'm sorry i didn't express myself right, is more like that thing of the impostor thing and something that i can't do since i can't speak normally

What i would like to do, is an introduction, as a presentation of the mc talking about the world and a bit of himself, but i see that as something quite bold and i'm too shy to do it.
Also the 8 pages is just the first part of the chapter the story keeps going but that first pages would be starting in the middle of a quiet day and then going to worse

>>6641178
I'm trying

[Anonymous No.6641273]

>>6641256
To put it simply, i think that i'm just stuck between doing a lot of narration to explain the things more clearly, or just going expressing the things that the mc feels with just the mc thoughs and that the reader conect the dots

[Anonymous No.6641274]

>>6641256
>>6641273
you might be having trouble because you don't know the fundamentals of storytelling. Read Robert McKee and Lajos Egri. Straight Narration almost always sounds wrong. Exposition should be motivated by conflict

[Anonymous No.6641301]

>>6641186
>>6641206
Great info anon thanks for the knowledge

[Anonymous No.6641327]

>>6641274
Don't worry anon, i started reading a manga that gave me the answer that i needed

[Anonymous No.6641334]

gonna try to get into comic LO
wish me luck bros

[Anonymous No.6641337]

>>6641334
Good luck brother.

[Anonymous No.6641343]

>>6641334
>comic LO
what's that?

[Anonymous No.6641346]

>>6641343
Lolicon anthology.

[Anonymous No.6641347]

>>6641343

[Anonymous No.6642667]

I can get my ideas in order for fuck sake

[Anonymous No.6642677]

>>6642667
What do you want us to do? I'm qualified to give lobotomies.

[Anonymous No.6642683]

THERE IS NO HOPE AI IS GONNA TAKE OVER AND OVERFLOW THE MARKET WITH THOUSANDS OF AI GENERATED CRAP

THERE IS NO HOPE THEY ARE GOING TO GET US ALL

[Anonymous No.6642710]

>>6642677
>I'm qualified to give lobotomies.
Do your worst

[Anonymous No.6642789]

>>6642667
write em down as soon as you think about them

[Anonymous No.6642809]

>>6642667
Making a Mind Map can also help focus your ideas.

[Anonymous No.6643133]

>>6640317
Learning Japanese properly can be a huge time sink. You cannot approach it passively as you would do with English as a second language. Sincerely, a guy who's taken part in a Japan study abroad programm.

[Anonymous No.6643278]

>>6640317
>>6643133
These days /djt/ recommends https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/

>Do you think these resources should be added?
No. ajatt is outdated and trannyway is filled with shitty advice.

[Anonymous No.6643611]

>>6643133
Why is it more of a time-sink than English?

[Anonymous No.6643817]

>>6643611
Well if you're a westerner with no apsirations to go/work in the east for any substantial reasoning, it's basically a useless skill.

[Anonymous No.6644005]

>>6643278
KEKFLMAO ARE YOU NUTS?‼? thats tatsucuckholds site, thats a mentally ill spammer friend, never take anything said there seriously
>>>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=tatsumoto
https://find.4chan.org/?q=tatsumoto#top
proof
he just began spamming again, hope the mods filter his worthless spam soon‼

[Anonymous No.6644029]

>>6640317
I think the japanese recommendations should be left out of the OP. It is very closely related to making manga, but since the main focus of the board and the thread is art it may be out scope to add japanese learning resources when there are other places on this site you can look to find these things.
You're also inviting the /djt/ schizowar into the thread, bear that in mind please.

[Anonymous No.6644043]

>>6644029
>You're also inviting the /djt/ schizowar into the thread, bear that in mind please.
you're right. we shouldn't include those resources then

[Anonymous No.6644065]

If I make one of the main antagonists to my manga have the ability to stop time, will be accused of ripping off jojo?
Note: I'm a known Jojo fan, so it's not like I could play it off as coincidence, and it is definitely a tonal influence on top of it.

[Anonymous No.6644070]

>>6644065
You will accused of anything and everything, no matter what you do. But if it's a minority, then it doesn't matter.

If you have your character stop time, make sure the story pans out differently than with how Araki did it.

[Anonymous No.6644076]

>>6644065
Stopping time is a generic enough ability that nobody is going to accuse you of plagiarism just from having it in your story. If your self conscious about it, think about things like how the villain uses the power, how tension is generated in the fights, blah blah and make it different. If there are spooky scenes where villain appears to teleport and the hero has to figure out his power or if the villain monologues while tossing objects at the hero then yeah people might start making comparisons.

[Anonymous No.6644172]

>>6644065
More importantly, do not give your antagonist the ability to stop time. It is a broken and stupid ability that is nearly impossible to write in a way that feels satisfying; yes, it's cool as fuck, but the audience will ask "why didn't he just stop time here?" or "why didn't he just kill this character now?"

[Anonymous No.6644187]

>>6644065
Dragon ball did it, as a fucking joke, just be inventive with it and you can do it too

[Anonymous No.6645237]

[Anonymous No.6645299]

FYI for anyone who has their manga up, today (May 8) is webcomic day, so get to self-promoting your shit on Twitter

[Anonymous No.6645309]

>>6645299
Really? Are there any big posts? I'm on Twitter and nothing is popping up about it...

[Anonymous No.6645320]

>>6645309
I think it just kicked off, but I'm seeing stuff getting shared in my feed. Maybe look for #webcomicday

[Anonymous No.6645334]

>>6645320
Alright, I just posted with the tag, hopefully can pull something with this.

[Anonymous No.6645349]

It can be discouraging seeing better artists than me with a sort of similar style/taste do really poorly on social media. I have to keep reminding myself that I want to make manga because I enjoy it, not because I want to be popular. I just wonder to myself if anyone will read what I make at all.
I wish there were a website like webtoon that consolidated all traditional format web-manga, I think I'd deliberately read as much as I could just to leave nice comments on people's hard work. Webtoons format sickens me though.

[Anonymous No.6645380]

>>6645349

It sucks, anon, I feel ya. If I were to stop doing my comic and do more conventional daily posting, I know I would get a lot more engagement, followers, etc. But then that means I have to stop doing my comic, or have way less time for it. I've just given up on the social media game for the most part unless something on its own happens to make the algorithm happy and just focus on my work. I only have one life to live and I'm not going to waste it trying to please a fickle algorithm overlord.

[Anonymous No.6645397]

>>6645349
Theduckwebcomics, Comic Fury, GlobalComix, Manga Plus Creators allow you to post in a traditional format and they're active
The most important thing is the demographic of the site, though. Some are geared towards teen girls (Webtoons), lgbtq (Tapas), etc. Find a place where you feel comfortable and like the other creators.

[Anonymous No.6645553]

>>6645397
My issue is the demographic of those sites you posted (barring MPC). You compare the various mangas veing made here versus what you see on those sites and, uh, those sites' comics don't come across as very good. And that's being generous. The only ones that even remotely approach passable are all the Pokemon ones.

[Anonymous No.6645587]

>>6645380
This is how I feel too. Torn between easy attention and fulfilling passion. Attention would help boost a series sure, but it's nearly impossible to be that kind of artistic powerhouse. Especially if you're not a pro. Like you said, we only get one life. Faceless followers aren't going to be any comfort to me at the end of mine.
>>6645397
Appreciate the recommendations and all, but these sites seem majority geared toward western comics, which I have a really hard time consuming even on a professional level. Manga Plus Creators seems like the only one of them where I could see myself reading some content so I might leave some nice comments there.

[Anonymous No.6645619]

>>6645587
My issue with MPC is that they are just as restrictive (if not possibly more so) than Tapas and Webtoons in order to protect their previous ad dollars. I wouldnt consider my series to be anywhere remotely super NSFW but got censored anyway. I'm not mad at MPC, I get it, but it sucks.

[Anonymous No.6645661]

>>6645619
When you say NSFW, do you mean just in a sexual sense, or does it also include excessive violence?

[Anonymous No.6645710]

>>6645661
Any kind of nudity or violence in general, even if its something like blood on floor with a semi-obscured body nearby, or a nude woman not doing anything (and I mean ANYTHING) sexual.

[Anonymous No.6645717]

>>6645710
Damn. Do you have a link to your comic?

[Anonymous No.6645855]

>>6645717
Oh, ok. Genuinely wasn't trying to trot around my comic atm but here are my first two chapters.

Tapas: www.tapas.io/series/aecast

Pixiv Ch.1: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97250867
Pixiv Ch.2: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102515774

There is some nudity and violence, yes, but it's not like its worse than other series I've seen get what seems like a complete pass on the ratings system.

[Anonymous No.6645917]

>>6645397
>Some are geared towards teen girls (Webtoons), lgbtq (Tapas)
That's literally ALL of them though, from what I have seen. There are zero platforms actually geared toward a traditional shonen/comic demographic

[Anonymous No.6645938]

>>6645917
>traditional shonen/comic demographic
MPC. The other anons are right that they're a bit zealous about graphic stuff on their platform (though the comic I worked on had a fairly risque bit that never got hit, didn't have explicit nudity though) but they're still clearly geared toward exactly that: being a traditional shounen manga/YA comic platform.

[Anonymous No.6645961]

For which one i should aim to, manga plus creators or the kyoto contest? They both are organized by mediabang and maybe have the same guidelines to upload, but if i remember right in the kyoto contest had something that you couldn't put anything in the story that wasn't resolve in the same oneshot and that kind of things
But since i want to make a series, but the first few chapters would be stand alone stories

Also since last year mpc didn't exist i don't know if this is going to affect the kyoto contest in some way (something like the constest is done in mpc instead)

[Anonymous No.6645975]

>>6645938
>>6645917

Frankly, I ultimately blame the larger payment processors (Visa, etc.). Those are the primary financial transaction kingmakers, and they all have rather prudish rules about being anti-nudity and anti-violence. Coupled with advertisers trying to be as safe as possible, you end up with our current situation where anything that isnt rated PG or G is basically treated no different than the most hardcore porno or gory horror movie. No nuance.

[Anonymous No.6646028]

>>6645975
Funny how actual porn distributors don't seem to have a problem with payment processing.

[Anonymous No.6646034]

>>6646028
>porn distributors
>payment processors
You act like they aren't run by the same people

[Anonymous No.6646042]

>>6646028
Your comment sent me down a rabbit hole of articles to see how they made financing work. As far as I can tell, it seems like all the NSFW sites are their own payment processors, since they are also shafted (heh) from the major payment processors. But that just makes me wonder if it's possible for a comic site to do the same - probably not, since I just don't see how on earth it can pull in the same revenue as straight-up porn to have the financial balls to do its own payment processing. A bunch of fujoshis have money, but not THAT much money.

[Anonymous No.6646075]

>>6646042
You can make donations work. Too bad everyone today is a grifter who runs away with the money. Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.6646150]

>>6646075
I've had people give me donations for receiving physical copies of my work, but that's mostly because they don't want me to pay out of pocket for the printing and shipping a physical copy. I mostly break exactly even against expenses. Once I have enough chapters to justify an actual "proper" manga volume (roughly between 180-220 pages when I looked around), I'll try to get it sold on a proper distributor like Amazon and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.6646167]

>>6642789
>>6642809
Actually i recently i started writting down notes on a notebook that i had, and it feels way better than writting it down in my laptop, like if handwriting would help me be more creative and relaxed, so now i'm advancing with that

[Anonymous No.6646204]

>>6646042
>I just don't see how on earth it can pull in the same revenue as straight-up porn

How the fuck can porn be making ANY money in current year when every single thing they sell can be gotten for free with a simple google search

[Anonymous No.6646222]

>>6646204
I don't know what to tell you, anon. And yet porn sites continue to turn a profit.

[Anonymous No.6646522]

How do I get good at art like the chainsawman assistant who draws Dandadan? How do I get that good?

[Anonymous No.6646530]

>>6646522
one million drawings. get started.

[Anonymous No.6646625]

>>6646204
For webcomics, people use Patreon for access. There's some real horny shit on Webtoon, but the creator posts 5 tease panels then links to their Patreon. Why these comics for porn? Who knows. Maybe it's easy access to the creators or ability to give input

[Anonymous No.6646677]

>>6646204
Roasties on Onlyfans and even Twitch can make thousands, upon thousands of dollars, and barely show anything at all.

People are willing to throw money at artists they really like, so long as you're even moderately decent, but I'd imagine being able to put stuff out at a semi-reasonable rate is really the catalyst that is going to keep people coming back.

[Anonymous No.6646688]

>>6646677
That's also the problem. At the end of the day, the first reason I draw, more than anything else, is because it makes ME happy. I would burn out if I had to draw at the insane rate some artists do.

[Anonymous No.6646801]

Looking at a beautiful, convincingly Japanese manga made by a westerner makes my heart beat so fast. I have to become like you. I have to work harder.

[Anonymous No.6646808]

>>6646801
Such as...?

[Anonymous No.6646818]

>>6646808
If you want official titles I have none. But I stumble across them on twitter. It's a genuine shame the artists can't work on manga full time.

[Anonymous No.6646960]

>I love drawing, this is so awesome, I'm going to finish this comic and it'll be great
>I hate drawing, I don't even want to think about this shit, I wish I could never draw again
>I love drawing, this is so awesome...

[Anonymous No.6646991]

>>6640304
I just read "Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga". What the fuck is the point of this book? It's the most outdated, unhelpful, passionless and pessimistic ressource on manga-making I've had the displeasure of discovering. At first, I thought they were doing an how-to guide on what not to do, but no, they're completely serious about making the most uninspired shit imaginable. There were some some useful comments here and there, but overall the book was a massive waste of time for me.

[Anonymous No.6646999]

>>6646167
yeah, I do the same thing, writing in on paper and making little doodles of what i’m writing, it’s much more convenient than digital as long as you keep tabs on what goes where. keep at it!
>>6646818
>If you want official titles I have none.
what about devil’s candy?

[Anonymous No.6647002]

I don't want to make something that looks Japanese specifically, I just want to make a great visual story. I cruise this general because it's the only place where anyone actually tries, the webcomic generals are stagnant and incestuous

[Anonymous No.6647019]

>I still can make a good introduction of my mc, because i'm too shy and schizo and think to myself W̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶d̶e̶r̶f̶u̶l̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶l̶d̶ "why someone would read that, this isn't useful, isn't that taking to much trust"

[Anonymous No.6647033]

>>6646999
>devil’s candy
It's skilled but it's not convincingly japanese to me. It feels more korean actually. Very rigid expressions and thick goopy lines. As well as a overly heavy use of black like comic books do, when manga utilizes negative space to draw the eyes to the focal point of each whole page. It just doesn't have that authentic recognizable composition.
Obviously all kinds of manga exist, there's no strict rule. But it just doesn't make my heart race the way other artists do. When there's no doubt in my mind the work must be japanese, only to learn it isn't.

[Anonymous No.6647051]

>>6646818
that's naf you stupid dingus how new are you

[Anonymous No.6647060]

>>6647002
Wait, we have a webcomic general?

[Anonymous No.6647079]

>>6647002
This general is annoying in its own way with the blogposters and weebs acting like manga is some recondite artform distinct from comics that's made by space aliens. I learned Japanese to consume manchild genre fiction and they manage to make even me feel secondhand embarrassment.
The general has this name because it started back when that Tezuka contest was running but I don't think it's worth keeping if it's going to attract this kind of thing, specially since everytime a non-manga-esque comic gets posted people usually feel the need to ask first even though it's allowed, meaning a lot probably read the title and ignore it thinking it's /asg/ lite.

[Anonymous No.6647087]

>>6647079
Please enlighten us in how this general should be taken care of

[Anonymous No.6647090]

>>6647079
Could probably be changed to something like Sequential Art General

[Anonymous No.6647104]

Is something that says something like "i don't like to live in this kind of situation" too strong worded to mpc?

[Anonymous No.6647105]

>>6647090
Comics would work just as well, but I like that Sequential Art is more specific to the serious discussion of the medium.
I hoped we'd change names last time the subject came up but Tatsumoto spamming of all things showing up here really incensed me about the subject again.

[Anonymous No.6647116]

Man I feel like I'm going to need to do 100% my own hosting, marketing and promotion for an adult-oriented comic that's also not porn.

Better learn to make a website I guess

[Anonymous No.6647121]

>>6647105
>Tatsumoto spamming
What's that?

[Anonymous No.6647129]

>>6647121
It's silly /jp/ stuff, the guy aggressively shills his guide like it's a religion. I never saw it live much since it started after I'd stopped actively studying but if you look on the archive you can see it for yourself.
Really more of a benign annoyance, I'm just permanently crippled, as it were.

[Anonymous No.6647138]

>>6644005
kys, analcream.

[Anonymous No.6647139]

>>6647121
Tatsumoto is the Japanese language guide from /jp/.

[Anonymous No.6647143]

>>6647105
>>6647121
It was a big mistake to mention it. When it comes to this kind of bot/script spamming, mentioning it or the subject it spams about is just inviting the spammer to stay. They're here because somebody mentioned the subject of their spam. It has nothing to do with "the state of the general" or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6647144]

>>6647051
I know who he is dumbass, if he has official titles somewhere I don't know what they are because I don't follow authors religiously like an autist

[Anonymous No.6647157]

Standard sizes for CSP's built in comic function are fucking huge. Especially if you're working in mono with intent to print. I got recommended 1200 dpi in that case. But I physically can't draw on that size. The input lag is terrible when I'm used to the 1:1 responsiveness of a smaller res. And for some reason CSP is performing much worse on my new machine compared to my 10 year old laptop I recently replaced.
Does anyone just not use the CSP tools? Or is there a workaround like using vectors at a smaller scale then just scaling up? I want the low fidelity of paper and ink, which requires quick and accurate penmanship. Literally impossible for me at the recommended sizes. If I use anything but the preset sizes it doesn't give me the bleed and trim borders. I cant afford to work in trad media. Kind of pissing me off.

[Anonymous No.6647168]

>>6647157
>Standard sizes for CSP's built in comic function are fucking huge. Especially if you're working in mono with intent to print. I got recommended 1200 dpi in that case
That's weird, I don't see anything in here that defaults to 1200dpi (including the advanced comic options with stuff like shueisha/kodansha/etc formats). Surely you could just reduce the DPI, right? Changing the DPI doesn't change the borders for me -- to the point where I've accidentally drawn projects way too small because I couldn't tell until I started toning them.
>The input lag is terrible when I'm used to the 1:1 responsiveness of a smaller res. And for some reason CSP is performing much worse on my new machine compared to my 10 year old laptop I recently replaced.
Keep in mind that CSP/mangastudio, being a fairly old program at this point, doesn't really make extensive use of multithreading. Meaning it's only using one cpu core for most things, so the bottleneck will be individual core processing speed... which the hardware industry moved away from improving, in favor of just fitting more cores in.

[Anonymous No.6647186]

>>6647168
It was a clip studio website tutorial that recommended 1200 dpi for the highest possible quality of mono prints. You'd pick it under the "custom" comic preset, but there are still standardized options under "custom." If under "custom" you pick the second "custom" under the paper size submenu, the printing crop lines will be reduced to some weird gray box with huge margins. I tried to proportionally reduce what would be "B4" to something that would be only a third of the size. No bueno, crop lines gone.
The multithreading thing makes a lot of sense. It's been a huge pain in my ass since I upgraded to a new laptop which performs much better in literally every way except when using CSP. Just another reason I'd rather work smaller.

Right now my solution which works pretty well, is just using what amounts to a screenshot of the generic B4 page with guidelines. I open it as its own file at a comfortably small resolution and then simply do all my linework on top of that locked base layer. Strictly in vector format. I like the frame building tool because it's handy, but I have to manually convert the frame layers to vector layers. That removes the masking, but I can just clean up with other tools. Then once the linework is finished, I copy the vector layers to a full size B4 page at 1200 dpi and upscale them to align with the high res crop lines. Then I can just fix/add details, clean up, do tones or big areas of ink, etc.

Maybe this will help someone who suffers the way I do. Maybe someone has helpful advice.

[Anonymous No.6647195]

>>6647186
A tutorial actually recommended 1200 dpi? What the hell? For regular printing 600 is more than enough, I can't imagine wanting 1200 dpi for anything other than fuckhueg prints.

[Anonymous No.6647198]

>>6647195
It was a manga making tutorial, it said 600 dpi for monochrome is the minimum. 1200 was the maximum. Whereas for color anything above 600dpi isn't necessary. I just figured I'd max out and be able to downsize to anything I needed.

[Anonymous No.6647278]

so manga is usually done on paper. that includes all the tones applied by hand. when they get scanned, the scanner picks up the grays on the paper. then the pages get mass printed in monochrome using only black ink. logically, does it matter if you make a digital manga in grayscale or monochrome for printing? doesn't the black ink printer just fill in the gray areas with some default dot pattern? what's the benefit of doing digital tones?

[Anonymous No.6647285]

>>6647278
screentones aren't grey, they're dots of black.

But digitally, you can make your manga greyscale. Then when you export it for print, select "duotone", so csp automatically exports a jpg with dots for tones.

[Anonymous No.6647287]

>>6647278
>the scanner picks up the grays on the paper
Wrong, the tones are all just straight black and white, no grays.

To be printed, any gray tones need to be converted to dot matrix.

[Anonymous No.6647320]

So what do you guys think of screen tones vs just paint on digital comics?

I was playing around with some thinking it'd just give some extra texture and personality to basic greyscale shading, but I'm not quite sold on it or if its worth bothering with (not that its hard to do)

Is there any benefits to using it other than looking more traditional? a quick google search gave me fuck all.

[Anonymous No.6647330]

>>6647285
>>6647287
>duotone
That's what I was looking for, thanks!
And I figured since paper isn't exact and tones aren't all lined up perfectly when you glued them on it didn't translate perfectly into monochrome dot matrix.

[Anonymous No.6647331]

>>6647320
It's just down to how you want it to look
With digital anything goes

[Anonymous No.6647340]

>>6647320
In theory it's supposed to help with printing costs, but frankly unless you're doing something crazy I expect modern day prices to be mostly negligible.

[Anonymous No.6647343]

>>6647340
Depends on the quantity. It's probably not much difference when you print on demand or just do a run of a couple thousand. But when you're printing phonebooks every week to the tune of millions like Shueisha, you're talking a shit ton of money saved.

[Anonymous No.6647345]

>>6647060
Pretty sure it's on /co/

[Anonymous No.6647352]

brianlet here, is it possible to have tone dots that are too small to be seen individually in a final print? like a grainy pattern that you can see on your monitor but if printed it would all be grey? my brain can't grasp printer physics

[Anonymous No.6647355]

>>6647352
yes

[Anonymous No.6647367]

>>6647355
k thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6647375]

>>6647345
>go to thread
>it's nothing but bitching about vgcats

Okey dokey then...

[Anonymous No.6647378]

>>6647375
The webcomic thread on /co/ is home to resident schizos and not very much gets done there. Much more technical help available in these threads. Though they did help me with some general idea questions once.

[Anonymous No.6647386]

>>6647378
i accidentally into a discord with them and its an absolutely terrible place.

[Anonymous No.6647389]

>>6647386
>>6647378
>>6647375
Like I said before, that thread is cancer

[Anonymous No.6647832]

>>6647345
yes, its called /hyw/ but there hasn't been a thread in like a week

[Anonymous No.6647885]

>>6647375
That vgcats thread was just some random thread, though. It wasn't the regular comic/webcomic creation thread.

The regular threads (How's Your Webcomic, or /hyw/) were fine for a while. You'd get some goofy drama every now and then, and some funny meme-worthy shit that would happen every once in a while.

But these days, shit flingers will latch onto a couple users, and instead of just ignoring them, people just have to engage which feeds into the problem, so the whole thread derails every time,

Ironically, there's also the /aco/ version of /hyw/ where people post their NSFW comics, porn/hentai, etc of their characters, and those threads are hilariously 1000x more civil than the sfw /co/ threads.

[Anonymous No.6647951]

>>6647386
I wonder if there are there any good comic making Discords?
I'm on some comic collaborating facebook groups and subreddits, but it's either really old bitter guys or that group of indians spamming "please kindly check your inbox once"

[Anonymous No.6648019]

>>6647885
Yeah, was gonna say that /aco/'s /hyw/ threads have almost always been chill. People know they're there to post (generally) badly drawn porn, so drama tends to be at a minimum. Got some surprisingly good setpiece/composition advice there too, so thanks guys.

[Anonymous No.6648125]

If you ever feel bad about your art and can’t start your manga because of it: this page is from a serialised manga in Japan.

[Anonymous No.6648133]

I was wondering if there are any good screentone/manga brushes for Clipstudio Paint that you guys recommend?

[Anonymous No.6648136]

>>6648125
She's got fans from her previous series Beastars, plus she's the daughter of the guy who made Baki the Grappler
Maybe ONE is a better example. Bad at art but a good storyteller?

[Anonymous No.6648197]

>>6648136
One only got popular after a good artist redid his shit though. He just got lucky that a good artist ran across him and recognized his potential

[Anonymous No.6648201]

>>6648125
Yet it still looks more like manga compositionally than something I'd make. Bad as the art is, i need whatever mentality these mangaka have about the way they visualize everything.
>>6648133
There's a CSP brush thread you can ask. In my unsolicited opinion screentones should only be used for printing. Digitally they look like shit and cause a moire effect especially on phones. But maybe you can figure out how to make it work.

[Anonymous No.6648214]

>>6648125
Man, that just makes me feel worse that my manga is a literally-who.

[Anonymous No.6648290]

>>6648197
One has gotten a lot better, though, since the early days of OPM. Mob Psycho is all his own work and does fine on its own.

[Anonymous No.6648313]

>>6648125
There's always someone with better art and technique, but only you can make YOUR story and characters. Even if it wasn't intentional posts like these show massive NGMI energy.

[Anonymous No.6648499]

>start posting on ArtStreet
>start reading the actual posts and comments on other submissions
>realize I'm surrounded by literal 12 year olds

[Anonymous No.6648501]

>>6648499
Now post yfw they're all better than you.

[Anonymous No.6648513]

>>6648501
Oh... but they're not.
Half the submissions are also fucking AIslop, automatic DQ

[Anonymous No.6648550]

>>6648201
thank you! I didnt notice that thread!

[Anonymous No.6648557]

>>6648125
Better example

[Anonymous No.6648561]

>>6648557
Nah this is a case where unskilled art at least still has appeal. That other one's got no appeal. Unless you might think a 5th grader drew it and maybe you'd find that charming.
"It's my style" has always been a pretty valid argument so long as you don't let it get in the way of studying

[Anonymous No.6648569]

>>6644065
You're going to get accused no matter what, don't let that stop you. Though time manipulation tends to be stupid broken, as long as you give it a creative way to start it/stop it you should be fine. Maybe the person is only able to stop time as long as they hold their breath? or maybe its time to an item or pose? etc etc

[Anonymous No.6648574]

>>6648569
time stop but it real.
light, oxygen, sound, nothing moves at all except you. So you can't see, hear, feel, move, or do literally anything because nothing works without time.

[Anonymous No.6648604]

I fucking hate all social medias as an artist, they are fucking demoralizing

[Anonymous No.6648615]

>>6648574
I mean maybe it has the appearence of stopping time but its more akin to gravity manipulation? Similar to how time is effected differently to bigger planetary objects, maybe the character could do something like that but keep up the front of stopping time for strategic purposes? Dunno, personally I don't like using time powers cause they get stupid broken quickly but if anon really wants to use it thats one way

Managed to finally get this page toned, just a few more to go lol

[Anonymous No.6648622]

>>6648615
Speaking of Jojo knockoffs... I thought that was Aerosmith

I think you might need to expand your horizons and read something else for inspiration

[Anonymous No.6648634]

>>6648622
? I don't read jojo anon, its based on an actual world war 2 plane

[Anonymous No.6648746]

It's a little delusional for me to think any manga I ever made would be popular in Japan itself, so I ought to focus on making a story that relates mostly to the English speakers reading it right? When I watch interviews about anime and English language from the average japanese person on the street, I get this sense of futility about that entire market.
Instead of letting that futility get to me, I should just be honest with myself while writing and make something that I believe resonates with someone like myself. The overlap of people who speak English but enjoy jap media. But at the same time that particular market is extremely fickle. A shit ton of this market is unwilling to consume something if it isn't "authentically" Japanese.
So in the end, likely nobody will read anything I make, no matter how good I get, unless I pick a side. But I really don't like either side very much.
It can feel pretty hopeless sometimes.

[Anonymous No.6648767]

>>6648634
>>6648622
>>6648615
Actually the anon has a bit of point- people identify with the Jojo one because of how iconic it is. Maybe consider changing to another similar WWII plane?

[Anonymous No.6648852]

what do you do when you feel like you're just wasting your time working so hard to make something nobody's gonna like? Yaeh drawing is fun but the regret I feel when nobody reads it after hurts way more.

[Anonymous No.6648870]

>>6648852
I drop it and instead make something somebody is gonna like.

[Anonymous No.6649134]

>>6648767
Eh not too worried, the plane shes using is only in use for a few pages, i think its mostly the angle of the shot that makes anon think that

[Anonymous No.6649136]

>>6648852
do you like it? if so, just keep making it
the minute you start trying to chase active approval is when you'll end up hating working on it. (not that you shouldnt aim to entertain but you shouldnt cater your story to the whims of readers)

[Anonymous No.6649144]

>>6648852
Tell the story you would want to read. Your biggest fan has to be you, everyone else is second. Honestly, only 1% of people following will engage with you, so it's easy to get discouraged.
Don't make comics for someone else unless you're just looking to make generic slop for patreon bucks

[Anonymous No.6649149]

>>6649134
Haha, you're a chad bro. Keep up the good work!

[Anonymous No.6651140]

I have been studying gintama a lot lately, and i still shocks me how good and effective is the frame, no frame, frame, no frame paneling interval that sorachi does

[Anonymous No.6651146]

Do I need to buy a professional scanner or will my local library / UPS scan art just as well?

[Anonymous No.6651157]

I do not know the logistics of this and my cope is that the setting is 3x the size of out earth.
I didn't even think about how that satellite dish and the window are the size of a medium city lol, I'll have to fix that later.

[Anonymous No.6651160]

>>6640356
https://globalcomix.com/c/monday-s-forecast-for-hareyakana-shi

Read this next, nigger

>>6645619
Try INKR. They’re more manga/webtoon-based. Audience is global, very easy to upload. I get 10x the views vs. Globalcomix

[Anonymous No.6651162]

>>6648852
Make a comic only you can enjoy so that you’ll always be your biggest fan. Takes away the pressure of wanting to make others want to read it

[Anonymous No.6651410]

>>6651157
Looks interesting, do both sides spin in opposite directions to generate gravity? There's a manga I can suggest that would be great for references but I can't recall the name atm, I'll link it once I get home from work

[Anonymous No.6651424]

Is there any book you would recommend for drawing anime and manga? I just finished a bunch of draw a box challenges and want to start doing something other than boxes. I don’t always have stable internet since I’m on the road. What book would you recommend for getting the style right and not making manga that looks good and can set me on a good path to good drawing?

[Anonymous No.6651439]

>>6651424
I would recommend you practice figure drawing from Hampton, Bridgman, and Morpho. For the faces, use the Loomis method, and copy manga you like. There isn’t a single book that I would recommend for the “manga” style. You should just copy your favorite artists, using the fundamentals

[Anonymous No.6651465]

>>6651439
I really like Hide Channel and his work , but idk which of his books to start with. His YouTube channel is helpful, but I only ever have a WiFi connection once a week at most. :(

[Anonymous No.6651472]

>>6651424
There is nothing "intrinsic" about what constitutes anime/manga. The style of Fist of the North Star is conpletely different from Sailor Moon to K-On! to JoJo to Otoyomegatari. Just pick an artist you like and go from there.

[Anonymous No.6651474]

>>6651465
Get a physical book you can carry around then, a large edition of Bridgman would be best. I find his studies much more helpful than Loomis, who is too cold and mathematical for something that should be expressive like comics

[Anonymous No.6651504]

>>6651465
Wifi only once a week? Anon are you literally living under a bridge?

[Anonymous No.6651622]

>>6651504
;_;

[Anonymous No.6651939]

>>6640304

Mangabros, do any of you know moon runes?

Please translate picrel, thanks.

[Anonymous No.6651974]

>>6651939
>how to draw penis (basic)
>1 draw a half circle
>2 draw a slanted line
>3 connect the lines
>4 draw the rod with a round feeling
>5 draw the corona of the glans and blood vessels and so forth
>6 continue as you like, add more lines, done!!
>so simple anyone can draw it! recommended! if you can draw it at this angle it's more or less ok!
t. n69

[Anonymous No.6652120]

>>6640697

[Anonymous No.6652209]

>>6651410
Oh it's not a ship, It's a massive fuck off tower lol.
I guess a comparison would be if the illuminati had a base what would it look like?

[Anonymous No.6652221]

I got worse.

[Anonymous No.6652584]

https://litter.catbox.moe/2n8hbb.png
is page layout fine? above is supposed to be a over shoulder shot of the monster they're fighting.

[Anonymous No.6652585]

>>6652584
also just noticed text bubble is too high lol.

[Anonymous No.6652630]

>>6652584
>>6652585
Other than the speech bubble it seems fine. Don't overdo the top panel since your focal point is going to be the link on the left.

[Anonymous No.6652898]

>>6652584
Looks fine to me, although I can't really tell whats going on in the top panel. I presume its a behind shot of the heroes allowing you to see the monster from the front.

[Anonymous No.6653659]

Sassy Paige.

[Anonymous No.6653664]

>>6652584
>Toon Zelda/Link
based

>>6653659
Cute. Care to explain or share more about her?

[Anonymous No.6653681]

>>6653664

Thanks, anon. She's one of 6 main characters (seventh not yet introduced) in my comic. In the off-chance you're interested in reading, I've included links below. Two chapters done thus far, currently a little past halfway done inking the third.

Tapas: https://tapas.io/series/aecast

Pixiv Ch.1: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97250867
Pixiv Ch 2: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102515774

Paige is the tomboy of the group. All the girls will eventually get their own backstory - Paige's will be last.

[Anonymous No.6653864]

>>6646999
I think that the part that help me the most, is that i'm not re-writting every line compulsively anymore(erasing and writting over it), i just started keeping them right there until i have rewrited (writed a more elaborated line, more refined this time), so i don't get lost so much anymore

[Anonymous No.6654260]

>>6653681
Bottom left has a really strong design
Eye is drawn to her. Good job anon

[Anonymous No.6654284]

>>6653681
Really nice designs but Itzel's hairstyle and tan skin immediately makes me think of Korra

[Anonymous No.6654298]

>>6654260
Thanks anon, I went into Itzel's design trying to intentionally come up with someone who had a very strong/domineering presence. Glad someone else felt the same way.

>>6654284
Yeah, I get that a lot. I dont mind it, since most people tend to like Korra's general design. Would you believe me if I said I was primarily inspired by Monster Hunter and Luis Royo when I made her, haha.

[Anonymous No.6654323]

>>6654298
I like your work. Glad it doesn't bother you that your character looks similar to another, every time I find it in one of my characters I get nervous and change the design

[Anonymous No.6654329]

>>6654323
>I get nervous and change the design
I do the same, but not if it's something more common. Sometimes it works out though, people see a familiar face and might be more willing to read it

[Anonymous No.6654336]

>>6654323
At first I was like "Really? All people see is Korra?", but I just decided to make peace with it. Everything has some roots based on something else, so I feel like if I had to make the most OC character design thay ever OC'd, I design myself into a nervous wreck.

[Anonymous No.6654956]

>>6653681
>no twintails
Your work sucks

[Anonymous No.6654967]

>>6654956

Sorry anon, twintails/pigtails might be the one hairstyle I absolutely can't stand. I don't know why, but it generates a visceral reaction of disgust in me. The closest example I can tolerate is Selena from Fire Emblem.

[Anonymous No.6655001]

>>6654967
Look, i know, in the whole spectrum of what we call twintail/pigtails there's a lot of them that doesn't seems good enough to fit the bill, but you have to think about those twintails that starts by the nape and falls graciously for the shoulders, those are the best and only type of hairstyle that i would love that are the twintails

[Anonymous No.6655007]

By the way, in the manga that i'm working on right now, i want to post it in mpc with the golden prize in mind, but i'm worried that i might fuck it if i do the boobs of a character too big, for that thing of it should be for all ages, but the emphasis on sexuality makes it r18 immediately...
But the thing is that i'm not emphasizing nothing sexual, is just that the character is like 1.95 m and has boobs that are the size of a middle watermelon to look proportionate

[Anonymous No.6655015]

>>6655001
I'm always willing to keep an open mind. Hit me with an example of what you consider personally to be one of the best examples of twintails. If I like it, who knows, maybe I'll have one of the girls wear it on their day off or something.

[Anonymous No.6655027]

>>6655015
Well, ema from shirobako and uomin from syd are the first that come to my mind

[Anonymous No.6655049]

>>6655027
Ok, I can work with this. I just cannot for the life of me stand the ones that pop out the side of the head super high - looks so fucking stupid.

I'll think about incorporating this lower twintail into a more casual style for one of the girls. Not sure exactly how, since so many of the girls have long hair, but I'll chew on it.

[Anonymous No.6655162]

>>6646808
>>6647033
I posted about it in a few threads ago but some Westerner has a manga called クオーツの王国 is running in Monthly Afternoon. The story seems like nothing special and there doesn't seem to be too much buzz about it on the nip side but the art looks very nice and "manga-like". Very clear inspiration from Witch Hat Atelier too.

[Anonymous No.6655187]

>>6655162
Any idea where they're originally from? It's not a story I'd personally keep up with but it's a good success story to keep in my back pocket

[Anonymous No.6655191]

>>6655187
The blurb on the website just says "Canadian artist" but based on what I've skimmed on the artist's twitter they're of (non-Japanese) Asian descent. https://twitter.com/bomhat

[Anonymous No.6655196]

>>6655191
>half of the tweets in japanese
In the end you really can't make it unless you learn that useless language huh

[Anonymous No.6655198]

>>6655196
by definition, it's not a useless language then, isn't it? It's in fact one of the most useful languages to learn.

[Anonymous No.6655202]

>>6655196
>unless you learn that useless language
If you're making a comfortable living doing what you love + you're able to consume more of the content you enjoy that hasn't been translated then it's not useless at all. In most countries learning a second language isn't that big of a deal but for some reason English-speakers really throw a hissy fit at the thought of having to other languages.

[Anonymous No.6655224]

>>6655198
>>6655202
>learn thousands of kanji to N1 level for a chance to maybe be considered by a publisher in japan and then maybe have an audience, maybe
>between learning the customs, culture, idioms, and business jargon you'll need to work with a jap company
>if your art is pro tier first of course
It's understandable if you think it's worth the effort, or you read obscure stuff that doesn't get scanlations. It's simply a gamble I'm not willing to personally take but I'm happy for the 3ish foreigner artists who have their own jap published mangas. Good luck to you, I'm going the solo route and I'll just hire a jap to translate my english version when I have the funds. They'll read it over in nipland if I make it good enough and if they don't read it I'll have some western fans to keep me comfort.

[Anonymous No.6655233]

>>6652630
>>6652898
top panel was supposed to be like this
https://litter.catbox.moe/q09j12.png
but the more i work and look at it the more it looks crappy, and it's probably a skill issue on my part, but also because i only planned bottom panel without thinking of a top one first.
it also doesn't fit with the OG scene i'm illustrating since in the original the character who is speaking sheds some tears before speaking. i just went with the monster shot because this is a mockup so it doesn't have any other pages before or after.
i'm considering making a front shot of the speaking character so that the speaking doesn't seem like it comes out of nowhere, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.6655234]

>>6655224
It's really not that hard. You just need good daily habits. (which I guess you don't have)

[Anonymous No.6655242]

>>6655234
Don't be bitter anon, I speak 3 languages fluently, and on top of those if some nip were to talk to me on the street I'd be able to tell generally what's he's saying to me. I simply have a life, family, and responsibilities, and I'm dedicating every ounce of my free time to the craft of manga making itself. It's unnecessary. Plenty of nips consume western media especially games these days, so long as it's reasonably familiar to them and of high quality. I don't like wasting my time, except lurking on /ic/ before bedtime of course. Just would be nice to have a big manga publisher behind you is all, but even the majority of native japs who try to make it are rejected so I don't feel too bad.

[Anonymous No.6655247]

>>6655242
I wasn’t being bitter, just encouraging anons to follow their dreams, and crushing demoralizers like you ;)

Also, if you really do speak 3 languages fluently, you fucked up by not focusing only on Japanese. Who knows, you could’ve made it in Japan. But now you’ve wasted your effort learning 2 languages and not being good enough at either one of them to publish manga in them. Talk about wasted time…

[Anonymous No.6655257]

>>6655247
Realism isn't demoralization anon, you all should be striving to make amazing manga regardless of language. Isn't it more inspirational to get the adoration of the japs despite the language barrier? You shouldn't have to beat yourself up because you aren't as close to being japanese as possible, I don't think japs would want you to do that.

[Anonymous No.6655263]

>>6655257
Your post wasn’t realistic though, anon. Japanese might just be the easiest language to learn. Hundreds of basement dwelling weebs on /djt/ have refined the process into clockwork. Getting N1 doesn’t take more than 8 months now.

[Anonymous No.6655269]

>>6655263
If you plan to live there, more power to you. Nothing wrong with learning. I don't though, for a lot of reasons. I just want to make great manga regardless of language. Our true goals are different in the end

[Anonymous No.6655281]

>>6655257
I think it's more realistic to go in with the mindset of those South American/Russian/Chinese immigrants who learn English and come to America to become CGI artists for CGI studios like Disney, Dreamworks, etc., especially if you're on the younger side. Said artists put equal weight on skill and learning the basic culture and language of their target industry, work their asses off, and are happy to move countries to achieve their dreams. If you're serious about manga-making in particular, getting to at least N2 will give you an incredible leg up in getting hired or even getting training as an assistant in Japan. Not to mention a bunch of amazing manga resources are not TLed to English so you could have better access to learning how to draw manga (e.g. from this guy who goes super in depth and did the BGs for Death Note and more https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ52S2P73TG9IAAE3BwZw1A)) and further develop your skills. If you're going to go the webtoon/webcomic route I suppose it's fine to forgo the Japanese but I honestly think if you can reach a high skill level in art you might as well as go for being a mangaka over being a webtoon/webcomic artist if you like manga the most out of the sequential arts.

[Anonymous No.6655282]

>>6655269
kudos to you

[Anonymous No.6655335]

>>6655281
I appreciate the sensible reply and the channel link. I don't see much practicality in explaining my positions or why I feel the way I do about learning the language. I just don't plan to live in japan or work for them. If the japs like whatever I make, great. If purist weebs seethe because I'm a filthy gaijin, let them. If I dont make a cent because the western manga market doesn't exist, that's ok. I'm not in it for the money or the accolades.

[Anonymous No.6655588]

>>6655233
Try illustrating the idea you suggested. Also what's the OG scene?

[Anonymous No.6655862]

>>6640304
>draw, draw, draw

Is it just me or is she kind of not very good artist despite all that.

[Anonymous No.6655863]

>>>/vg/429688447
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1279
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>Information:
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>Mods & More:
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Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
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>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
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[Anonymous No.6655864]

>>6655863

Anon are you ok?

[Anonymous No.6655868]

>>6655862
Her art is clumsy but she's got strong storytelling skills, which is a key part of manga-making.

[Anonymous No.6655870]

>>6655862
It's been years since I read it but I remember her admitting as much. It's more about her struggling to develop work ethic and regretting not taking sensei more seriously when she was younger.

[Anonymous No.6655954]

>>6655224
>>between learning the customs, culture, idioms, and business jargon you'll need to work with a jap company

Juts read Warhammer novel about skaven.

[Anonymous No.6655957]

>>6655862
Akiko's a very good artist, she just shits out 100 pages a month. If you watch her draw, she barely has an underdrawing. I'm sure she could ink the pages without any pencils, kjg style, if she wanted

But like the other anon said, the story was about her skipping out on class, flunking art school exams, and abandoning her sensei when he needed her most.

[Anonymous No.6656834]

>begin draft
>it's cringe and makes no sense and now I don't want to continue
how to get over this hump, redoing it until it makes sense or endure the cringe and keep going anyway?

[Anonymous No.6656836]

>>6656834
The draft of the storyboard? The draft of the inking? Just the story itself (pre-storyboarding)?

[Anonymous No.6656841]

>>6656836
storyboard I suppose

[Anonymous No.6656845]

Does anyone else have a problem of having to zoom in and out constantly to ink nice lines? It’s interrupting my workflow a lot compared to drawing traditionally and taking up a lot of time. When zoomed in the lines get very scratchy. Is it because of the size of the display tablet?

[Anonymous No.6656848]

>>6656841
What is wrong with it? You gotta be more specific anon. What is so cringe?

[Anonymous No.6656853]

>>6656845
Zooming in is as normal as leaning in to the page.
>When zoomed in the lines get very scratchy
Not sure what you mean by that.

[Anonymous No.6656856]

Is there a market for this but about slavs?

[Anonymous No.6656860]

>>6656856
No

[Anonymous No.6656863]

>>6656853
>Not sure what you mean by that
Sorry, I’ll elaborate. When I’m doing traditional (using Microns or something), when I want line variation I’ll layer a few line to get that smooth thick to thin transition. However, layering digitally using a consistent pen size produces those chicken scratch like lines? I can only alleviate this by zooming in then slowly layering. What takes me 1-3 seconds traditional is 1-2 minutes digitally, and my eyes get worn out.

[Anonymous No.6656866]

>>6656860
Found a slav(e)

(of course I don’t want to sell it to Nips, I am not stupid)

[Anonymous No.6656867]

>>6656863
Can't you just change the brush settings or the stylus settings to mimic a trad pen? One that responds to pressure to adjust line width.

[Anonymous No.6656873]

>>6656867
Maybe I should see if if I can lower the tablet’s 8192 pressure sensitivity to 4096 or 2048. I’ve tried adjusting the pressure curves in CSP by tool manually several times and none of them could mimic what I get traditionally or in Medibang IOS.

[Anonymous No.6656874]

>>6656863
Uh... what? Have you got your brush set to change size when you zoom in or something? Why would zooming in make any difference?

[Anonymous No.6656875]

>>6656874
Technically, a brush (i.e. 10 pixel size) will get "larger" when you zoom in since your area of view is now smaller, and vice versa, but I dont think that's what that anon means....

[Anonymous No.6657409]

Any good text about how to make good visual effects? Like smoke and that kind of thing

[Anonymous No.6657426]

>>6657409
There are some Japanese twitter accounts (maybe also Korean?) that pretty much act like tutorials - they post a quick crash course kn a topic everyday. Some of those have been "how to draw smoke, magic, etc."

[Anonymous No.6657431]

>>6657409
There's a few vfx how-to books aimed at animators that can be used for manga effects too. Those + studying the manga that have effects you like the look of should suffice. I'm pretty sure the artbook thread has at least one or two of these.

[Anonymous No.6657572]

>>6657431
Is there a name for the one you have an image for here?

[Anonymous No.6657577]

>>6657572
Sorry, I meant to ask as in author name.

[Anonymous No.6657922]

what brushes and screentone settings i need for this

[Anonymous No.6657963]

>>6657922
>brushes
Not enough info. Could be anything brush.
>screentone
Looks like default circle screentone.
Image looks like it was drawn at a very low res.

[Anonymous No.6657974]

>>6657922
Circle 40% screen tone at low resolution will give you the visible dot effect

[Anonymous No.6658145]

Hello anons, Please need help. As much as I study the human head I ALWAYS have problems with my eyes. 3/4 or at unusual angles I can NEVER draw them well. I'm frustrated. help.

[Anonymous No.6658151]

>>6658145
This going to sound harsh, but... Eeeeeverybody struggles with eyes. There's no secret, you just gotta power through until eventually they stop looking like shit, so I mean it in the nicest way when I say "get over it". In terms of actionable advice: copy artists you like. It goes for everything and eyes are no exception. Like the way somebody draws eyes? Copy it pixel-for-pixel.

[Anonymous No.6658165]

How the fuck do I do screentones brushes on photoshop
I'm to old to switch to something manga friendly JUST for the screentones

[Anonymous No.6658169]

>>6658165
What's the issue? You treat it like any other pressure dependant brush. Masking layers are your friend.

[Anonymous No.6658171]

>>6658169
I mean were do I get them
I just want to paint and get screentone
All I can find is this stupid photoshop "stencils" that aren't tileable

[Anonymous No.6658249]

>>6658171
https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/brushes.html

Kyle's brushes are pretty standard for photoshop users. I use his screentones and halftone brushes.

[Anonymous No.6658576]

Is it better to stick to one screentone or is there a set that goes together or what? Every screentone guide just teaches you how to create the brush or settings but never tells you what looks good or how dark to make it.

I can't just copy my favorite manga because its printed and the screentone doesn't look anything like it does on my screen....

[Anonymous No.6658586]

>>6658576
here's an example since we're talking about screentones. This hurts my eyes to look at

[Anonymous No.6658589]

>>6658576
I personally just mix and match whatever I like, and have got things down to a handful of about 3-5 that I use regularly. Not because the others necessarily clash, but because these are more pressure sensitive and layer on themselves well.

[Anonymous No.6658678]

>>6658576
>>6658586
Screentone types are your preference. I've noticed more lighthearted or cute manga is more likely to use bigger patterns with, for example, visible circles. How dark or light is your personal decision on value placement.
The effect you're seeing is called moire is it happens because screentones are intended for printing only. Digitally, their every pixel lines-up so perfectly with the pixels on your display, that you'll get a bunch of lines, boxes, and crosses appearing at different levels of zoom. When you print those screentones, the ink bleed, roughness of the paper, and microscopic misalignments neutralizes those too-perfect pixels. Your best bet for an authentic manga scans feel without moire is to literally print and then rescan. Digital-only manga tends to stick to greyscale otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6658879]

Hey guys, new Chapter of SkyArrow dropped? Any advice or critiques?
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/skyarrow/list?title_no=564023&webtoon-platform-redirect=true&page=4

[Anonymous No.6658887]

>>6658879
This is suspiciously good, and an awful lot like Kohei Horikoshi. Are you sure this stuff isn't plagiarized because it doesn't look like the work of an supposed 18yo.

[Anonymous No.6658919]

>>6658887
he’s probably black

[Anonymous No.6658922]

>>6658879
This is very suspect
>18yo
>inconsistent art quality
>level of detail that requires assistants
>release chapters several times a month
>many panels look like they were stolen from MHA
Idk if you're the author but something here isn't lining up, your stuff if better than most every anon in this thread and even many mangaka now.

[Anonymous No.6658991]

>>6658678
Thanks. I am obviously not going to print and scan things so maybe there's a filter you can put on a page to make it look grainy or something.

[Anonymous No.6659014]

>>6658879
>>6658887
>>6658922
Are you saying this guy was tracing? I personally don't think so, even though it looks heavily referenced there are too many differences. It may seem contradictory but the artstyle being inconsistent for me is evidence he's not tracing since it shows he's probably heavily referencing other manga for what to do but drawing it by himself. I'm too lazy to go through MHA to check; maybe he's copying some poses or certain special effects but definitely not faces. Most of the background detail is a bunch of less precise cross hatching and tones which goes faster than you would think, and there aren't actually that many complex backgrounds like forests or cityscapes. There are around 20 drawings per chapter with a mix of high effort action panels and simpler upper body ones so if this guy is 18 and has a bunch of free time I could see him pumping these out every 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.6659023]

Can anyone recommend me some action manga that are relatively down to earth? I've realized that despite writing a very low-magic setting, mostly focused on characters, most of my influences are high power level energy-blasts-and-explosions manga. I've watched plenty of movies with great hand-to-hand fight scenes, but I want to see how it's done in a manga too

[Anonymous No.6659025]

>>6659014
I'm gonna agree with this. Not sure what you guys are sperging about, the art isn't very good, and right on par with where I was at when I was 18. Maybe you're being wowed by the shading.

[Anonymous No.6659040]

>>6658576
https://hikarium.com/howto-graytone/
No need to read, just look at the pictures.

>>6658887
>>6658922
wut
I just looked at it, while it's not terrible it's definitely very janky. Doesn't even remotely look traced at all.
Inconsistency in art is extremely common among people who haven't been doing it for decades, and nothing about that comic looks like it "requires assistants". Have you considered the possibility that he just doesn't have a day job?

[Anonymous No.6659043]

>>6659023
Most manga I can think of are pretty wild even with martial arts, I think Holyland is the only one I've read that is more down to earth. Maybe you can try searching for specific disciplines like 'mma manga' to find an author that is autstic about depicting it realistically.

[Anonymous No.6659049]

>>6658922
Taking your time to draw fine detail means it must require assistants? Lolwut?

[Anonymous No.6659090]

>>6659049
>taking your time
The dude is pumping out chapters almost weekly, at that level it takes at least an assistant for letters and bgs.

[Anonymous No.6659092]

>>6659040
Considering it's been running for a few years and hes only 18. I would expect him to be in high school

[Anonymous No.6659100]

>>6659090
No, it really doesn't. It just takes working on it for many hours. On my first comic I worked 100 hours on one of the early chapters in a week. Lacking skill does not equate to lacking dedication.
>at that level it takes at least an assistant for letters
Are you joking? It takes like 10 minutes tops to typeset a page.

>>6659092
And if you go and look at the earlier chapters, when he would have definitely still been in school, you can see that there are far less backgrounds and far less effects in general.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/skyarrow/that-small-new-diner-part-2/viewer?title_no=564023&episode_no=4
for example ^

[Anonymous No.6659103]

>>6659100
I'm kinda disappointed that anons here are so easily impressed by amateur work.

[Anonymous No.6659108]

>>6659100
He would've been what, 15 at the time? Not even Miura drew on that level at that age. What kids spend 100hrs a week making manga? Most anons in this thread don't draw like that.

[Anonymous No.6659113]

>>6659108
My work at 15 was better and output around the same level.
1: You don't know what Miura's work looked like at 15 since it's not published, and even his earliest work was miles better than this guy's
2: Teenagers have a shit ton of free time, energy and tunnel vision. I used to stay up for days drawing with no downsides.

[Anonymous No.6659122]

>>6659108
>He would've been what, 15 at the time? Not even Miura drew on that level at that age.
Dude you're greatly overestimating the level of skill on display here. It definitely looks good for his age but come on it's very very rough. Even the more recent chapters, though definitely showing major improvement, still have yet to shake off that amateurish feel that comes from simple lack of experience. I don't want to crap on the guy or discourage him, he's doing great and if he keeps it up he'll be even better, but I think you and the other anons need to work on your critical eye a bit.
>What kids spend 100hrs a week making manga?
I was 19 when I did. All it takes is being young + having no job + having a high standard to live up to + having the will to give it a real try. I wanted to be on the same level as mangaka who drew a chapter a week, so that's exactly what I tried to do. I even managed it, though not for long (plus the drawings themselves were embarrassingly bad).
>Most anons in this thread don't draw like that.
That would certainly explain why they just immediately assume anybody who tries is cheating it somehow. I don't know the truth behind this guy, whether he's tracing or has assistants or whatever, but it doesn't look like it to me. It just looks like somebody young with no job who has the will and a high standard to live up to.

[Anonymous No.6659135]

>>6659108
pyw

[Anonymous No.6659140]

I'm seeing a few NGMIs getting exposed in here

[Anonymous No.6659142]

>>6659103
Anon, we're all literally amateurs here. Not that I'm defending SkyArrow anon as there are things I think he will do better in time (keep going dude), but none of us are employed.

[Anonymous No.6659144]

>>6659142
It's one thing for normalfags to be easily impressed, but for people claiming to be studying art and supposedly reading manga and comics, you should all know better.

[Anonymous No.6659149]

>>6659144
I think part of the problem is that /mmg/ has a lot of people who frankly would be rightfully considered complete /beg/s were they posting on any other thread in /ic/. This causes them to see any scene that has any appreciable amount of work put into it and they immediately suspect it's copied pro art solely because they themselves can't do it (yet).

[Anonymous No.6659168]

>>6658586
Your screentone is wrong.

[Anonymous No.6659179]

>>6659149
yeah, the level is pathetically low here.

[Anonymous No.6659316]

havent been able to draw much at all bc of school (fuck calculus) but here is dis one page

[Anonymous No.6659399]

>>6659040
thanks. Is every example in this post something good to do? Or are some "do not do this?"

[Anonymous No.6659604]

>Yes, creators can make money from their published community content – or make it freely available (it is entirely up to you). Any retail sales are split between the creator (i.e. you), OneBookShelf (DriveThru's parent company), and Chaosium. As creator, you get 50% of the sale. For example, if your product retails on the site for USD $10.00, this is how the split of revenue is made:

>$5.00 to the creator
>$3.00 to DTRPG
>$2.00 to Chaosium

>You set the price. Which could be free or otherwise. The financial process is fully automated, requiring no additional administration from the creator.

https://support.drivethrurpg.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036896591-Jonstown-Compendium-Content-Guidelines?affiliate_rem=77157

Does any comicbook publisher offer this kind of deal or better?

[Anonymous No.6659609]

>>6659399
None of it is "what not to do".

[Anonymous No.6659858]

>>6659604
Creators get paid by page usually and make royalties off of each issue sold. It heavily varies place by place, but usually you're given a fixed rate via a contract rather than this.

[Anonymous No.6659919]

>>6659040
>Doesn't even remotely look traced at all
These are all from the latest chapter. It's immediately obvious which parts were lifted from some shonen manga.

[Anonymous No.6659934]

>>6659919
Yeah that's pretty suspect

[Anonymous No.6659956]

>>6659919
>can't place a right eye properly
>except in the panels suddenly using masterful foreshortening
comeonnow.png

[Anonymous No.6660030]

>>6659956
Yeah. Also "the level of detail" is not assistants or hard work, it's just clip studio assets. There's nothing hand-drawn in this frame except for some of the messy hatching on the debris.

[Anonymous No.6660103]

>>6660030
Assets are fair play if you have the compositional knowledge to use them well tbdesu but if your art without any assets or refs is bad then it's jarring

[Anonymous No.6660322]

>>6660030
dammit, I need to learn csp in greater detail

[Anonymous No.6660554]

>0 views on mpc today

[Anonymous No.6660624]

>>6659919
Top left: Rough and quite obviously rushed, full of errors. Given he used hatching to shade instead of screentones, I'm guessing he drew this in a hurry.
Bottom left: Fine, eyes are a bit big and nose a bit short but it's consistent with the style.
Top right: The same as bottom left (big eyes, and stubby nose) only this time it's an action panel with decently executed foreshortening and with kinda wonky eye placement.
Bottom right: The only fully solid drawing and the only one I can see an argument for being traced, however the gesture is good and linework at least shows it's traced well.

Like I said before, I don't know for sure what this guy is doing, but you're too easily wowed if this makes you cry "tracer!"
The top right drawing is obviously just a way more ambitious drawing from anything on the left, and it still has plenty of flaws. It's not really significantly above the average level of the rest of the drawings. The bottom right is definitely a standout, it's well done but does look a lot like the kind of pose Horikoshi likes to draw. Doesn't mean it's traced, it could easily just be that he looked at a chapter of MHA, thought it was cool, tried drawing something like it and it turned out well. It's happened to me before with other manga.
Tracing is serious accusation to throw out with no proof whatsoever, if you think he's tracing you should probably find some actual evidence, like the image that was traced or at least anything that isn't "other drawings look bad, these drawings look good so must be traced!" because all that says is that you can spot inconsistent artwork, which is not proof of tracing. I mean at this point you're basically saying "in this panel the perspective is good! he's tracing!!" as if the idea that maybe he just has some understanding of perspective or even just found a cool reference image isn't even a possibility.

[Anonymous No.6660649]

>got accused of being a tracer the other day
>can't even be proud, since it's by a sperg who accuses everyone of being in cahoots with other "bad actors" (random indie artists who've attracted his ire)

[Anonymous No.6660776]

>>6659316
I don't think I've ever seen anyone use so many screentones. At first my eyes felt raped, but after looking at it for a while it actually looks very nice
>Fuck calculus
Relatable. Just passed Real Analysis and got my Math degree
>>6660554
Post a link and you will have at least 1 view today :)
>>6658879
The faces are ugly but I like the hatching, it captures the feeling of movement

[Anonymous No.6660796]

>>6660776
>Post a link and you will have at least 1 view today :)
thanks anon, but turns out it just update the number every few hours. I got 200 views today!

[Anonymous No.6660808]

>>6660796
Cool! Is it your first published work?
I'm trying to study by making a oneshot, and it's pretty bad so far

[Anonymous No.6660839]

>>6660808
I'm doing a series! My total views are around 2 thousand, 5 chapters in. It seems like even if you have high views, most series have very few likes or comments. Makes me thing it's just bots scraping the site or something

[Anonymous No.6660924]

Imma plug my webcomic here, I'm not new to /ic/ but I'm new to /mmg/. Just posted Ch1 today
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/toshiro/list?title_no=864828

[Anonymous No.6660952]

>>6660624
Here is the thing: it's only "good" in those action panels while the artist clearly lacks a basic grasp of the fundamentals to even execute the normal panels. I'm also not gonna search through 100s of chapters of shonen shit just to prove this dude is a fraud, but there is a chasm of difference between top left and top right in composition, proportions and line quality. At the very least, he's using CSP assets, which would take hours to draw by hand and drawing solo would mean weeks in between chapters.

[Anonymous No.6660983]

>>6660924
If you're ripping something off you're supposed to do a funny parody of it, not just a worse version of the original.

[Anonymous No.6661049]

>>6660924
Future possible Shinichi Sakamoto

>>6660983
Plenty of mangakas imitated Buronson in the 80s, most not better.

[Anonymous No.6661052]

>>6661049
Buronson was the writer, it was Hara that was imitated.

[Anonymous No.6661447]

>>6661052
The "manly anime artstyle" isn't just a Hara thing anymore, it's become homaged to the point of being a sub genre at this point.
https://youtu.be/G-QfHOX07Y8

[Anonymous No.6661756]

>page 9
Next thread doko da?
I have been waiting to ask 2 things that may lead to futher discussion so i wanted to do it in a new thread

[Anonymous No.6661878]

>>6661756
If you need it so much, why don’t you make yourself useful and do it anon?

[Anonymous No.6661890]

>>6660776
it seems to look better when viewing as a png in an image viewer
yea idk, i rly only used 3 layers of screentones and i couldnt find any softer tones in csp
i feel like i might be doing something wrong? but at the same time as you said it looks nice after awhile so idfk, its my first attempt at anything like this

[Anonymous No.6661962]

>>6661447
Uh... okay? Doesn't change that Buronson wrote HnK, not drew it. It was Tetsuo Hara that drew it, and it's Tetsuo Hara's designs and style that is being imitated there.

[Anonymous No.6661972]

>>6661049
>>6661447
>>6661962
the asshole ripped off the story too, not just Hara's artstyle

[Anonymous No.6662342]

>>6661972
>>6661962
I think you guys are pretty harsh, anon could add more elements in the future to help distinguish his story, but let's not pretend Hara and Buronson or even their imitators like Hirohiko Araki were without "ripping" things off.

[Anonymous No.6662347]

>>6662342
What do you mean "you guys"? I was purely correcting that anon on who drew HnK. That's it. I wasn't making some dig at anon's comic or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6662355]

>>6662347
My apologies anon