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I always like to complement book/video on learning a subject.

-I watch Marshall Perspective with Norling Perspective made easy.
-Marco Bucci Color and Light with James Gurney color and Light.
-Vilppu Manual with, well, Vilppu manual.

I think you get the idea, but not sure I've come across a good course that talks about lines, form, values, as studying the masters quite like this one. Is there a video course like that.

I'm tempted to think that probably Vilppu or Huston have something on the line but I still haven't watched most of their videos, only vilppu manual series, and Peter Han approach to teach line and form seems rather different from Hale.

>> No.6633923

The book is great by itself.

>> No.6633935

>>6633833
try marshall's bootcamp on bridgman.

>> No.6633941

>>6633935
oh yeah, I was doing it when I tried to pick Bridgman book to study, I watched the first class and seemed a bit dense with little info on Bridgman per se but it was the introduction so probably it picks up the pace after that, I stopped studying Bridgman because I had to do lots of stuff for my job at the time and I was already studying Vilppu but it might be a good idea to pick it again now, I think he cited parts of this book a couple of times while he was going through Bridgman drawings, does he uses the concepts of this book to decipher Brifgman in genereal through the whole bootcamp?

>> No.6634649

Long shot, but did anyone attended to this or knows what was about?

https://www.marshallart.com/HOME/seminars/draftsmanship/y8rrs2

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6634653

>zoomers will never make it because they can't read

>> No.6634683

>>6633833

It's a weird book, but greatly beneficial if you slow down an study the hatching, line work etc. Not for beginners: you should be more or less cimfortable blocking in the volumes and anatomy of each drawing as a base before getting to the gist of it, which in my opinion is studying and replicating the emphases and rendering techniques of the master drawings.
If you have the patience to work this way, it really kicks ass and you will improve by a mile.

>> No.6634921

>>6634683
what books you recommend I should probably finish before taking this one?

>> No.6634940

>>6634921
nta but Bargue is a great starting point for classical art

>> No.6635040

>>6634940
Bargue is not classical. Michelangelo and Raphael were classical. Bargue is faux classical

>> No.6635044

>>6635040
He'll know what I meant!

19th century French school would be a most a accurate description, but that will be noise to the ear of someone asking for book recommendations I guess

>> No.6635046

>>6635044
s-sorry. You’re a nice guy

>> No.6635054

>>6635046
> You’re a nice guy
You have nooooo idea bro. You're looking for a wife? My sister's still unmarried. 29 or so

>> No.6635059

>>6635054
Post pics

>> No.6635129

Do those "fundamentals course" cover the same things than Hale or bargue books or it's another approach entirely?

You know? like: Brent Eviston art science of drawing, Yves Yumol CGMA Absoulte beginners, Chris Legaspi and Heather Lenefsky NMA Drawing for Beginners, Sheldon Borenstein NMA Stress Free Sketching, David Jamieson Vitruvian Studios Drawing Fundamentals or Jonathan Hardesty Schoolism Essentials of Realism.

Just how many fundamentals are there and which courses cover most of them or what I'll be lacking after finishing them?

>> No.6635142

>>6635054
I'll marry her is she changes her first name to yours.

>> No.6637397

>>6634940
Does Bargue use some type of construction or how does he control the proportions?

>> No.6637426

>>6637397
No, you have two options: sight size, and comparative measurement.

>> No.6637538

>>6635059
I'm unfortunately prevented from posting images :-(

>>6635142
Lemme get this straight, you want a woman with a boy's name? Is this some sort of post-wokism "Deborah is not a woman's name"?

>>6637397
You always need some amount of construction, even aiming at accuracy. The only time you eventually need pure construction is when working from 100% imagination. Otherwise, there's always a mix between both.

Besides, the proper answer is "we don't know". We just have plates, no indications from the original authors on how to use them. I'd recommend you to try a bunch of different approaches

>> No.6637751

>>6637538
Bro no homo but I'm not down to fuck anything that doesn't look, sound and smell like you, do your sister up or I'm not sticking my dick in it.

>> No.6637902

>>6637751
Sorry bro, there's so much vomit coming out of my mouth; I'm not built to sustain such conversations

>> No.6638119

>>6637902
Come here let me vomit on your head bro *BLEEEEUUUUURRGHKKGHK* ohhhh yeahhh

>> No.6639315

>>6637426
you mean when you use your pencil like PROKO and when you put a canvas parallel to what you see and copy exactly on the size you are perceiving?

>> No.6641765

bunp

>> No.6641793

>>6641765
the fuck does bunp mean?

>> No.6643189

>>6635040
If you put it that way, Michelangelo got a job at first because he was a forger of Roman statues, where do you draw the line?