John Kricfalusi

[Anonymous No.6629368]

Do you guys have any specific opinions on John Kricfalusi's art? He is mainly known for Ren and Stimpy (and dating 16 year olds), but I also find his lesser known work stylistically interesting.
He has this really specific style and some specific fixations. I recommend checking his blog and browsing through the tags sometimes, he has some interesting opinions.
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/

[Anonymous No.6629386]

>>6629368
If he was a nobody this board would crab his artwork to hell and back and then deem him a ngmi ugly drawfag.

[Anonymous No.6629398]

>>6629368
Wasted potential. Too much focused on disgusting gross out "humor." He's actually a funny guy

[Anonymous No.6629443]

>>6629368
Woah, so he is posting shit right now? I thought this guy was dead and retired. Fucking legend. Thanks for the shout out anon

[Anonymous No.6629445]

>>6629443
Well, he is not posting much nowadays. He was posting a lot for a lot of years, but for the last two years or so, he has been silent. Probably something to do with his whole controversy

[Anonymous No.6629452]

>>6629445
But wasn't all of that shit like a thousand years ago? I know that shit doesn't go away, but why would it matter again a couple years back? Maybe something happened wich I don't know about?

[Anonymous No.6629453]

>>6629368
based and was right about most things but unlabeled cans kind of shit on his legacy

[Anonymous No.6629456]

Where can I see his erotic work? Can't find shit on the boorus.

[Anonymous No.6629459]

>>6629456
The thing is, he never draws anything straight up erotic. He is more concerned about drawing funny, rather than sexy. Check out his PRETTY GIRLS tag though, and you can find some pretty girls he drew. Close enough
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/search/label/PRETTY%20GIRLS

[Anonymous No.6629482]

>>6629368
He can draw great stuff, but some of his stuff can be astoundingly shit as well (what the fuck is nose-hat in picrel?). He's one of those guys who draw "gross out" or "ugly" characters, not realising that those can have appealing designs as well, or maybe he does realise that, and is just too up his own ass to realise his design is shit.

[Anonymous No.6629502]

>>6629482
I think the approach here is to draw dozens of characters and pick the two or three best.

[Anonymous No.6629513]

>>6629368
his shitty style ruined western animation

[Anonymous No.6629533]

>>6629456
Have a couple of these. Can't remember were I'd got them. Maybe it's AI, dunno

[Anonymous No.6629548]

I find his work grotesque. I also hate tex avera’s garbage that inspired him. I prefer Chuck jones, max fleischer, and danny antonucci

[Anonymous No.6629554]

>>6629368
talented but a nightmare with daddy issues to work with. Cans without labels was a super letdown after making people wait for it for so long.

the reveal that he was dating underage girls basically put an end to his career unsurprisingly. I wonder how many people know the whole "Cal Arts Style" thing started with him

[Anonymous No.6629555]

>>6629368
"durrrr i'm retarded" put into style

[Anonymous No.6629562]

>>6629368
A KING of cartooning. Was a huge influence on me and an entire generation of cartoonists (though few would admit it now). It's fashionable to bash his stuff due to his behavior, but I separate the art from the artist, and love even his later "picassoid" work.

[Anonymous No.6629576]

>>6629445
>Well, he is not posting much nowadays.
He started a patreon recently, which looks like a continuation of his blog, so he's still at it.
https://www.patreon.com/johnkstuff

[Anonymous No.6629707]

i judge the artist separate from the art so i see him as a shitty degenerate person but as a shitty degenerate artist as well.

[Anonymous No.6629773]

This thread's a bit boring...someone alert guy it exists

[Anonymous No.6629774]

>>6629533
That's definitely not by john

[Anonymous No.6629777]

>>6629513
If it weren't for john everything would look like care bears still

[Anonymous No.6629802]

>>6629777
>he took this kino style from us
fuck this dude and his shitty ugly scribbles i am glad he's blacklisted and everyone hates him

[Anonymous No.6629818]

Do you think he still has the potential to create a great cartoon?
It would probably have to be a really specific environment where he would have enough control, but not too much and a studio willing to fulfill all his demands. But does he still have it in him?

[Anonymous No.6629922]

>>6629368
too bad he's a sex pest and groomer.
his art is good.

[Anonymous No.6629927]

>>6629818
just keep the young women a safe distance away from him.

[Anonymous No.6629983]

>>6629818
>Do you think he still has the potential to create a great cartoon?
That time has passed. He was trying to get a new studio together when that Buzzfeed article hit.
>It would probably have to be a really specific environment where he would have enough control
He had control with the Ren & Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon and Cans Without Labels, the first lacked focus and the charm of the original, the second barely got made.
Kricfalusi is a great cartoonist, probably the best in American animation in the last 50 years. Unfortunately he's also his own worst enemy. A cautionary tale.
But we still have his great drawings, and his blog is a treasure trove of cartooning knowledge.

[Anonymous No.6629989]

>>6629533
This no its of spumco, is a rule34

[Anonymous No.6629993]

>>6629562
I don't understand this one, they accuse him of sexually abusing someone?

[Anonymous No.6629995]

>>6629368
grotesque
>>6629802
>d&d
>toei
based japs (koreans) animating western IP

[Anonymous No.6630022]

His grotesque style worked for a comedy like Ren & Stimpy, and he could do good-looking stuff when he wanted.
Yeah, there's the ugly grooming scandal, which basically will be used to shut down anything he says or does.

[Anonymous No.6630054]

>>6629368
His colors are really really ugly

[Anonymous No.6630370]

>>6629818
no bro fell worse then Burch fartman and thats saying something
he's a has-been simple as that (even without the blacklisting)

[Anonymous No.6630387]

All of this John k knob polishing is amusing, considering that his art looks like unappealing beg shit. You niggers will worship at the feet of any art if it has been preapproved by mass consumerism. Retards. No taste. Retards. It’s either samey weeb shit, capeshit loomis or bad cartooning. Dumb fucks can’t even get taste right. Ngmi

[Anonymous No.6630417]

>>6630387
Bro, you have harder feelings about his art than pretty much the entire thread.

[Anonymous No.6630422]

>>6629368
Love his style but I thought he had mommy issues from the way he draws girls.

>>6629386
You're on an anime board infested with millennial virgins, what else are you expecting?

[Anonymous No.6630438]

I would be interested to see what John can do when he steps out of the cartoon realm. Like has he always done gross out cartoons or had he dropped some more realistic looking things anywhere? He's like if a demented /beg/ actually took Fun With a Pencil seriously and developed a bunch of Loomis style cartoons or something. Or did John skip that "learn the rules and THEN break them" meme and just do cartoons at all times?

[Anonymous No.6630441]

I've noticed a lot of channers on the chan like to bash John K . what a bunch of losers.

[Anonymous No.6630449]

>>6629818
No Cans Without Labels or whatever it was sucked.

[Anonymous No.6630564]

>>6630370
Butch Hartman did not trance Mikasa. Just copied another art piece in his own style. And boo hoo he's a Christan. Get fucked atheist faggot

[Anonymous No.6630567]

>>6630422
Not mommy issues. Daddy issues. Which is also why Ren and Stimpy were so gay

[Anonymous No.6630571]

>>6630438
He just did cartoons all time. He hates anything that even looks like realism, yet he claims to love old classic DC and Marvel capeshit

[Anonymous No.6630577]

>>6630441
Ever since the Katie Rice and Robin Byrd stuff came out. It's a thing now for everyone who was a fan and inspired by him to gaslight and say they always hated him. Pure maximum copium

[Anonymous No.6630584]

>>6630564
Is a Chris-tan like a Chris-chan? That sounds pretty bad

[Anonymous No.6630585]

>>6629818
Yes, most talented cartoonist ever, but he can't be in charge of it. And that's the whole issue with the guy. As someone said, he is his own worst enemy.
His ideas suck at the core, he needs a talent above him to manage the overall concept, and HE should be a tool for that. Since the very moment he couldn't wrap that fact around his head, it was over for him. Egos destroy talent.

[Anonymous No.6630626]

>>6630571
Maybe he secretly sucked at drawing lifelike and that's how he copes. It's fair -I'm sure many people quit realism and just go to cartoon since it's more forgiving. He was just mad about it I guess.

[Anonymous No.6630797]

>>6630577
It was a bit before that too. He had some takes that many artists disagreed with, such as all cartoons should be comedy and anime is shit (except their colour choices) etc.

God forbid anyone have dissenting opinion after all.
Oh and let's not forget his abysmal mismanagement of 'cans without labels'.
(Though the predator stuff defo nuked his career harder)

[Anonymous No.6630876]

>>6630564
ah shut up you he fell off not long after danny phantoms ending
tuff puppy was alright but everything else afterwards complete shit
and dont get me started on the scams

[Anonymous No.6631109]

>>6630626
>Maybe he secretly sucked at drawing lifelike and that's how he copes.
Or maybe he grew up with classic cartoons and loved them so much that's what he enjoys drawing.
There are a lot of ways to be an artist, not everyone aspires to Charles Bargue plates, animu, conceptshit, or capeshit.

[Anonymous No.6631883]

Seems like he updated his Patreon again...I wonder, does he actually need the money, or does he just not want to give advice for free anymore?
He probably still gets some money from Ren and Stimpy and his online store, but he has not been hired to work on an actual paid project for a while, right?

[Anonymous No.6632261]

>>6631883
>I wonder, does he actually need the money
Given that spent spent 'cans with no labels' budget money on his own hospital and care fees, yeah he probably needs the money.

>he has not been hired to work on an actual paid project for a while, right?
Who's going to hire him after the allegations? Hell, he didn't get work even before the allegations because of he mismanages projects and because he always pushes things too far.

[Anonymous No.6632321]

>>6629368
>Checks blog
>Obsessed with Trump
>Is virtue signaling a defense mechanism for sexual predators?

[Anonymous No.6632365]

>>6629983
>>6630449
Yep, how could we forget CAAAAYUNS WITHOUT LAAAAYBULLS
John K is one of those people who can output brilliant work but absolutely NEEDS someone to tard wrangle and keep him in check or it all goes down the toilet.
Hideo Kojima might be another one of those types, desu.

[Anonymous No.6632386]

>>6629368
i think he's a very talented illustrator, not so sure about his actual animations, and his idea of what's sexy is utterly repulsive, i've read through a lot of his blog and agree with a lot of what he says to a certain extent

[Anonymous No.6634055]

>>6629368
Remember it’s meant to be animated. It looks good animated.

[Anonymous No.6634375]

>>6634055
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB1hWQmp4A4
This is what one of those girls look like animated, if any of you are wondering.
If you guys saw this ad on tv, do you think it would work on you?

[Anonymous No.6634650]

>>6634375
>god awful animation
>weird posture + retarded mouth breathing girl makes the tasteless panty shots look like she is wearing a diaper
>video is 90% just about depicting some chatroom text in shitty fonts and screeching with annoying awful voice acting
If I'd see it on TV I would think it's the worst commercial I have ever seen. Without context I would think it's an unfunny parody.

[Anonymous No.6634668]

>>6629368
I think John K's art is impressive and his early work reflects what he learned from the Old Guard. I do think he lost a bit of that years later and I personally don't find his girls all that attractive

[Anonymous No.6635214]

>>6634650
>god awful animation
People forget, but that was actually John K's thing - Very Limited animation for smaller budgets. I think many cite that as his biggest contribution to animation actually?
Granted, the moment he went to digital animation (flash) there was a noticeable drop in quality, though I have no idea why that is the case.

[Anonymous No.6638148]

>>6629818
Doesn't really matter if he still has it in him. Even if he managed to make something good again, there'd still be a high risk of him ruining the careers of others with his awful behavior. It'd be a net loss for the industry either way.

[Anonymous No.6638175]

>>6629368
SPBP>>6629398
His art has only gotten worst after transitioning into digital.

>and dating 16 year olds
Perfectly legal in certain parts of the world

[Anonymous No.6638183]

>>6629368
He warned us about dykes in the industry in 2003. I think he was spot on considering how so many of them happen to be Tumblirinas & ugly unappealing cartoons that followed afterwards.

[Anonymous No.6638190]

>>6638183
Are dykes not also interested in sexy women? I think he used 1 word in place of another.

[Anonymous No.6638201]

What if he becomes a total coom animation unchained psycho legend? His reputation is there already, why not take full advantage of it? Is he married with children or something?
All his ties with mainstream are burnt. We all expecting him to go nuts and do porn or something crazy. Surely is all about his stupid proud. The guy still cares, even when he is a total outcast drown in shit.

[Anonymous No.6638206]

>>6638190
Yeah they run the American animation industry. They absolutely seethe over attractive cartoon girls. They're behind alot of the shitty Tumblr art & are the reason you are not allowed to draw attractive women in American animation. One look at any current-day American animation studio, & you'll find dykes making the decisions on those cartoons.

Reminder that the same people that are telling you it's "offensive to women" are the same people who draw pic-rel.

[Anonymous No.6638212]

>>6638183
>offensive to women
that's not the real reason
why the fuck would you put sexy women in childrem cartoons
his drawings are ugly too

[Anonymous No.6638223]

>>6638212
Not your personal babysitter, faggot

Japanese do it all the time. How are we any different? It's not the animator's job to parent your kids. TV or Streaming is not a real babysitter. Also most of those shows are "for kids" in name-only. You think kids are the main demography of those cartoons? Please, it's mostly weird liberal men & women who watch those shows. I don't understand why they don't just take the Adult Swim pill & get it over with.

[Anonymous No.6638224]

>>6638190
Dykes are more against what men like than what they are into, but then again that's simply true for a lot of women but especially dykes, they seem to develop this adversarial dynamic towards men that is completely one sided on their part.
Men have no problem with women enjoying whatever they enjoy and don't care to meddle but the inverse is not true, women hate when men do what they want without their input or to deffer to them.
It's a tale as old as history, women are nags.

[Anonymous No.6638242]

>>6629562
>A KING of cartooning.
Hardly a king, but definitely one of the most influential animators of our time. He created the first flash animation long before YouTube was a thing. It's ashame he couldn't respect his deadline & was hard to work with. He was Adult Swim before Adult Swim was even a thing.

[Anonymous No.6638264]

>>6638223
pretty sure the japanese anime is not a fucking example to follow in that regard and their target demographic is not even kids anymore. an anime actually made for kids is fucking doraemon and there are no tits being slapped in your face

>adults watch it
whoa so you made something for a target demographic and got a different one. congrats

you make a cartoon for your target demographic and if your target demographic is kids you don't put tits on it, how hard is this for your smooth brain to understand?

you are the exact opposite of the people you are criticizing who put gay fat niggers in media where the majority of the revenue comes from white straight people. you want to force you retard cum art into fucking CHILDREM CARTOONS because you are a porn addicted drooling retard

[Anonymous No.6638561]

>>6638264
>REEEE You can't draw attractive women in cartoons
Cope harder, pathetic seething dyke

[Anonymous No.6638837]

>>6634375
Don't post a low budget ad he had to make for money, post the good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTdizdEIldM

[Anonymous No.6638844]

>>6629562
It's funny how much of an influence John K and Doug TenNapel (both in art and sense of humor, moreso the art of the first and humor of the second) were on 2000s cartoons, and by extension an influence on modern cartoonists, even though said modern cartoonists will go out of their way to shit on them for reasons removed from both humor and art.
>>6629368
Some of it is great, some of it is too stylistically bizarre for my tastes (see: that The Simpsons couch gag he animated). Despite how muh style his art can get, he emphasizes the importance of cartooning fundamentals like construction and perspective and the ability to accurately copy art as a learning tool.

[Anonymous No.6638916]

>>6629368
why does every good american animator from the 80s/90s draw women like they've lived in a monastery their entire life and had to get their friend to describe one for them

[Anonymous No.6638933]

>>6638916
Because you’re a fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.6638964]

>>6638916
You're gay

[Anonymous No.6638977]

>>6629368
I grew up on Ren and Stimpy, I really love the style, but aside from one music video from Bjork, I have seen nothing of his art.

I'll be happy to check out his other works, there's a good chance that his style influenced mine subtly.

[Anonymous No.6639194]

>>6638933
>>6638964
how am i the gay one when these people are the ones that are dogshit at drawing attractive women? the micro thin waist, balloon tits, unnatural body shape. its fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.6639201]

>>6639194
pedophile

[Anonymous No.6639226]

Pick your favorite girl
https://youtu.be/PtMU8nvZzOs

[Anonymous No.6639362]

>>6638264
You sound like a dyke

[Anonymous No.6639365]

>>6639194
They're drawing what men like you fucking faggot dyke

[Anonymous No.6639393]

>>6629368
Not my thing but theres definitvely good parts about it like that girl in the middle covering her puss has this nice single line for the upper leg and torso

[Anonymous No.6640263]

>See blog that John recently had a meet and greet in japan
>Look it up on twitter
>Absolutely no mention of it, not even a riled up fan autistic enough to mention it just to make others aware

Man, fuck twitter. I feel like the site has become tumblr 2.0. Just don't post anything there and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.6640272]

>>6640263
Well of course Japan doesn't mind that he groomed and fucked under-aged girls. That's probably what the meet and greet was for, rather than any of his animated work.

[Anonymous No.6640427]

>>6629398
>Wasted potential
Bitch, he ALREADY used his potential to great extent by working for big profile music videos, ads and even having plenty of successful and cult mainstream cartoons under his belt. He's just past his prime and so old he probably won't see the 2030s.

[Anonymous No.6640440]

>>6640427
>plenty of successful and cult mainstream cartoons under his belt
Other than Ren & Stimpy?

[Anonymous No.6640448]

>>6640440
>Other than Ren & Stimpy?
"Cans without labels" was great.

[Anonymous No.6640471]

>>6629368
what's wrong with him dating a 16 yo girl, isn't that legal age in the us?
anyway, not a fan of the zany, gross out style nowadays but ren and stimpy was pretty funny back when I watched it

[Anonymous No.6640501]

>>6640471
Ren & Stimpy was the best shit ever, unsurpassed till this day

[Anonymous No.6640576]

>>6640501
Genuine question- but why?
I used to watch it as a kid but it legit just made me uncomfortable
It was all gross out humor and uncomroftable moments with music which filled me with dread

It was dark and mean spirited - I just never saw the joy in it, I've never met anyone in person who watched and enjoyed it either but everyone online treats it as the best show of all time

I just don't get the appeal - and when I ask I just get responses like "because it was great" and they post a screenshot or something

[Anonymous No.6640613]

>>6640576
Well it depends on how young you were back then. I totally understand what you say. I wasn't a kid when I saw that, how old was I? 15? It was something totally different to all the rest, it was unique. An adult cartoon, disgusting and funny. It was like drinking beer, it's not tasty, but you get used to it, and then you want it.
It had something nostalgic about it, the music, the style. It had drama, it had a complex script structure. I remember whole episodes, like when they are traveling in space, when Ren gets sick, when Stimpy makes his own cartoon. It's unforgettable stuff, because it was so well done and fucking funny. To me there isn't anything like that, I don't remember "episodes" like that from any cartoon TV show. Unless we talk about real big time shows like The-X files, Seinfeld, etc.

[Anonymous No.6640624]

>>6640576
I never saw it as a dark. I just saw it as a bunch of gross stuff. Cow and Chicken was alright which took a few similar cues.

[Anonymous No.6640626]

>>6640471
its really pushing it when he was 39,
my gf is early 20s I'm 30s and feel weird.

[Anonymous No.6640631]

>>6629398
How the fuck would he go more far than with a fucking internationaly famous cartoon?

[Anonymous No.6640639]

>>6640576
>It was dark and mean spirited
Dude if ren & stimpy is "mean spirited" to you maybe you should see a therapist

[Anonymous No.6640643]

>>6630387
Who hurt you?

[Anonymous No.6640698]

>>6640626
My gf is 15 and I am 27. 3rd world btw
Not weird at all

[Anonymous No.6640706]

>>6640613
>>6640624
Thanks for the response - it's weird I enjoyed things like cow and chicken, IR baboon and Rockos modern life which had similar vibes its just ren and stimpy just felt really gross

Maybe it was the colour pallet and the music but it just felt grim and I can't remember any happy endings

>>6640639
How is it not mean spirited? Stimpy would get the shit slapped out of him all the time and Ren would often fall into manic fits of jealousy or depression and take it out on those around him practically every episode

[Anonymous No.6640760]

>>6640576
>Genuine question- but why?
I find Ren & Stimpy is one of those shows people either deeply love or hate (like a lot of great art).
Haters tend to dismiss it as gross out humor, but to me that was the least interesting part of the show (and not even a major part). It was more the psychological humor, melodrama, and weirdness.
So much of current adult animation is writer driven, formulaic, self-referential, dialogue-centric, irony-drenched, pop culture reference-ridden, and mean spirited in a cynical way (think Rick & Morty on the last point). Ren & Stimpy could be dark, but it was dark as in creating a surreal Lynchian atmosphere.
It probably shouldn't have been marketed as a kid's show, but as a kid at the time I'm glad it was.

[Anonymous No.6640793]

>>6629993
Nah he was banging a 15 years old chick who was his fan and worked with him and when he left her she started complaining muh abuse.

[Anonymous No.6641175]

>>6640576
I grew up watching it during the early & mid-90s. R&S is one of those shows you either love or hate. I recall alot of my peers in summer camp hating it due to gross-out & shocking imagery. Turns out the biggest demography that was enjoying the series were teenagers & college students.

[Anonymous No.6641183]

>>6640471
It is legal in some states, but I do not excuse his behavior. He should have treated Katie & Robyn much better instead of being a creepy groomer. I think Hollywood corrupted him.