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I recently purchased one in my attempt to draw more traditionally, but i'm blank when it comes to filling it.
How do you fill out your sketchbooks? studies? figure drawing? doodling just for fun?

>> No.6626105

You just outed yourself at finding absolutely no joy in drawing. Quit the charade, go back to playing vidya or something.

>> No.6626108

Watch what KJG shows in this video, and emulate him:

https://youtu.be/5c3wazcGYSY

>> No.6626117

>>6626100
I get this. If if buy a shitty wallyworld sketchbook or pack of copypaper, I would put gray scale studies, or practice tapered strokes, or just plain draw.

But when I drop ten dollars on a sketchbook or get those hardcover one, I just want every drawing to come out perfect. I fucking hate it.

I stick with the cheapos.

>> No.6626129

>>6626100
I draw digitally all my paper sketchbooks are rather bare these days. Kinda sad.

>> No.6626241

>>6626108
easy to fill a sketchbook when you can shit out masterpieces, that's endgame stuff. show me his sketchbooks when he was /beg/.

>> No.6626243

>>6626241
We'd have to go back to the time when he was kid. He was drawing since were like 5 or 6 y.o.

>> No.6626246

>>6626241
It's still good practice. He draws from reference, he redraws those objects from different angles, from imagination, and he invents scenes from imagination. All good stuff.

>> No.6626248

>>6626100
I usually take my sketchbook with me and draw things that I can see. If there's anything you feel like adding for fun you can just do that.
>Draw train station
>Draw rough silhouettes for people waiting on the platform
>add EVA-01 in the background fighting and angel
or
>draw person sitting nearby
>add a cool cyberpunk headset/helmet
etc.

>> No.6626260

How do you even hold a small sketchbook when there's not much space?

>> No.6626264

>>6626105
I kinda have to agree with this anon.

>> No.6626265

How do you draw people without them feeling uncomfortable? Seems most of them will notice something's off when you start looking at them multiple times while frenetically scribbling something down, so I can hardly work on a subject for more than three or so "glances" at them

>> No.6626342

>>6626265
cultivate your inner Don Juan, finger-fuck them with your eyes.

>> No.6626398

>>6626100
Literally, just draw.

With some minor exceptions (detachable sheets) I never to a finished piece on a sketchbook: I use them for study and researching/experimenting with design, ideas for complete pieces.

This dual aspect is interesting: I can refer to my studies while I'm developing ideas for finished pieces with the same sketchbook.

>> No.6626926

>>6626105
Do i? i draw plenty digitally and enjoy doing so, i can put hours on end into finished drawings, i sketch and do most of my stuff digitally though and wanted to go back to try traditional again, funnily enough i don't play vidya at all these days.

>> No.6626967

>>6626100
draw

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>>6626100
>>6626241
sketchbooks are not meant to be taken serious, just do whatever you want. unironically Just Draw. i got this tiny a6 sketchbook at daiso for $1,29 and i just draw whatever i feel like, mostly life drawings from stuff around me. i also write on it, as a sort of journal. just drawing freely without worrying has helped me improove my art a lot.
>>6626248
this is also cool

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>>6626100 (OP)
>>6626241
sketchbooks are not meant to be taken seriously, just do whatever you want. unironically Just Draw. i got this tiny a6 sketchbook from daiso for $1,29 and i just draw whatever i feel like, mostly observational drawings from stuff around me. i also write on it, as a sort of journal. just drawing freely without worrying has helped me improove my art a lot.
>>6626248
this is also cool

>> No.6628820

brap

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>>6626117
This.
I think it's also related to my habit of never finishing my sketches and other drawings. Even digitally.
It's like I fear finishing a piece and it turning out bad. Just like I fear starting a sketchbook and "ruining" it with a bad drawing someday.

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>>6626241
Not sure what your point is anon. Are you suggesting Kim Jung gi never filled sketchbooks until he became a master? Because if so, that’s a pretty retarded take. He just starts with one thing, like an engine or car and then he adds the next thing to the scene, and so on. It’s not rocket science. Ever hear of improv?

>shit out masterpieces
No they aren’t. Lol

>> No.6633108

>>6626398
This. Its easier said than done but thats what sketchbooks are for. No need to get attached. Every so often a ''good'' piece pops up but its for play and study otherwise. Save pieces you wanna present for elsewhere like copy paper or better drawing paper.

>>6628108
Daiso sketchbooks are a bloody steal and something I need to take advantage of more often.

>>6630905
Got plenty of copy paper to use as well. I just struggle with like, NOT trying to do finished presentable pieces, cause its something one should do every so often.

Its just hard kicking the ''everything must look good'' mentality.

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>>6626100
holy fuck you just proved him right.. why anon

>> No.6634377

>>6626248
thing is, begs still don't have all those objects memorized in their head, drawing an eva from memory in a dynamic fighting pose is high intermediate stuff
the best they can do is copy references from whatever

>> No.6634417

>>6634377
they should try nevertheless, to understand where they fail exactly when attempting it. failing is perhaps more important than succeeding in a sketchbook

>> No.6634587

>>6634305
thinking that just drawing will guarantee success is a logical fallacy. Not all of us are neurotypicals that can believe nonsense like "just keep at it! the world works in mysterious ways :) just try harder!"

>> No.6634603

>>6634587

Yeah bro why draw because you can absolutely get better by not drawing at all

>> No.6634605

>>6634603
not all of us can spend 6 years being bad because we started late. Just looking for answers is not trying to avoid drawing. I'm not drawing 10,000 turds.

>> No.6634613

>>6634587
>>6634605
Kill yourself faggot

>> No.6634616

>>6634605
why would it take you six years bro

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>>6626100
>bought sketchbook
>wat do
the absolute state of ic

>> No.6634641

>>6626100
you draw till there no more blank pages bro

>> No.6634648

>>6634587
>thinking that just drawing will guarantee success is a logical fallacy
not him but it's true: the more you do it, the more you'll naturally discover things on your own, assuming you're doing it extensively enough.

relying existing material drastically speed up the process though.

but even if you rely on a course, you'll still have to draw a copious amount of turds to get there

>> No.6634674

>>6634648
(cont.)

to build-up on this some more, the "just draw" advise is not to be taken lightly, because you need that millage, so that things become second nature.

in trad, mixing paint at first is a chore, but after some months, is just comes naturally, you don't need to think about it. and this can only be achieved by repeated practice.

>> No.6634695

>>6634674
Bit of a meme, but the concept of muscle memory is an actual thing and is only trained from you drawing often. You can ingrain all the anatomy and theory into your head, but if you had to draw with your off hand, it's not gonna matter much. Basically "Just Draw" is mainly about bettering how your brain and arm work together.

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A sketchbook is a tool that you employ to a specific purpose. You do your design work in it,drawing things experimentally, and necessarily incompletely at times. These sketches will be the reference material for the Final Draft,and that will be done on Bristol board,and framed afterwards. These are some of those sketchbook experiments,secondary characters that I have drawn for the first time in years. I need to be able to draw my own characters consistently, and that requires sketchbook work to find their looks,and then to learning to color it all afterwards. But if you do the homework, you will get results.

>> No.6634869

>>6634695
Yes, though, muscle memory is only a part of it.

For instance with color mixing, it's also the ability to decompose on the fly a color mix, know your relative pigments strength, and become able to evaluate how much paint you need to mix to cover this or that area.

In this specific context, muscle memory is negligible.

I also found that the brain gets better at "generating" good ideas with repeated training, such as getting better at bootstrapping compositions, getting a feel for what kind of color to use, etc.

But when it comes for instance to line quality, once you understand the basics, muscle memory is almost everything.

>> No.6634947

>do exercises from books/videos/sites of whatever and fill pages with them
>doodle, but also try to do some daring art pieces
>fill pages with a certain things you're trying to study, like hands or heads or whatever the fuck
>whatever you want really
The hardest part is accepting that your sketchbook is just for you. It doesn't need to nor should your goal be to make every page pretty and amazing. Just make each page worth it where you do something that takes you out of your comfort zone a bit or an exercise to hone a skill. If you really wanted to, you could even use the sketchbook for one specific thing like hands and fill all pages with just hands. Think of your sketchbooks as a way to keep note of progress. It doesn't matter what you do because at the bare minimum just drawing is enough, and can actually take you quite far as long as you have improvement and learning at the back of your mind. When you're done with a sketchbook, buy a new one and do it again. If you're an overthinker, focus on doing and everything else will be done naturally because your biggest strength is thinking and your biggest weakness is doing.