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/beg/ - Beginner Thread - Fuck /int/ Edition Anonymous Tue Apr 25 13:55:51 2023 No.6624961 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the Drawthread with fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS using one of the following methods:

>1. screenshot the image and post that instead

>2. change camera capture settings to something smaller

>3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

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Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:02:39 2023 No.6624969
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ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:24:33 2023 No.6624991 File: 388 KB, 1925x2537, 20230425_082048~3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Had to charcoal these because I couldn't get the camera to pick them up with just a 2h graphite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:27:06 2023 No.6624993 quick rundown on huston vs hampton?

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:32:36 2023 No.6624997

I didn't think i'd come here to ask such a pathetic question, but how do you NOT be scared of drawing?
I'm a pre-/beg/ and im just drawing the basic shapes so far but any time i think of actually copying a drawing or drawing anything human-shaped im just scared of doing it, like i have this irrational fear of getting the simple few shapes to even form a head
I know this is a retarded question but im not baiting

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:41:53 2023 No.6625007 don’t get chapter 5 of marvel way. “any retard can draw a stick figure” he says, but the examples appear to involve gesture and some anatomy. anything i attempt will be total shit in comparison

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:46:59 2023 No.6625013 >>6624997 Just do it retard. I spemt months doodlimg circles and shit instead of pursuing human figures because I was scared just as you. Accept that shit will look bad and get on with it.

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 14:54:38 2023 No.6625016

Hello /beg/ anons. Does anyone know of book other than Loomis to learn about drawing faces? I've used his figure drawing book and it's been going well. Something, however, just isn't working out with Loomis's face method and I'd like to try something else or at least supplement. Any help is greatly appreciated. Is Morpho good? Also, any other general advice for working with faces?

You guys have been great help before, please help out this fellow /beg/ again. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:04:20 2023 No.6625027 >>6625013 Thanks, i'll be trying to force myself to do it then

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:08:29 2023 No.6625030 morpho studies + imag drawing morpho is so good, one of the few drawing books i actually enjoy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:09:05 2023 No.6625032 File: 886 KB, 1648x1008, morpho2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625030 damn dropped the image

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:18:14 2023 No.6625039 >>6624997 it's okay to fail sometimes, but you have to try

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:25:45 2023 No.6625049

>>6624997
Trace some photos to see where these shapes that you are practicing apply, that should ease you into drawing people. Also, start with something more simple, like a object that is in front of you and whatnot.
>>6625016
Not a book, but there is a 3 hour long YouTube video of Steve Huston teaching a method to draw heads that isn't Loomis.
https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:29:52 2023 No.6625054 File: 163 KB, 750x650, hild9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:30:55 2023 No.6625055 >>6624997 learn to fail lil pussy i started landscape painting some days ago after doing nothing but focusing on drawing people and it makes me wanna die tb h but I'm not gonna stop just because of that

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:34:52 2023 No.6625058 >>6624961 >Fuck /int/ What did that board ever do to you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:36:22 2023 No.6625060 >>6625058 it's filled with plebbitors and you can't even post nigger on it without getting banned gookmoot should just delete it no cap

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Anonymous Tue Apr 25 15:56:03 2023 No.6625091

I'm trying to go through draw a box and I think the worst explained lecture so far has to bet he form intersections. It's so badly explained that most people on the discord don't even post their work for critique, there are so many for the texture exercise which are all part of the same lesson.
holy fuck this is just lesson 2 and i legitimately don't understand shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:09:13 2023 No.6625116 File: 270 KB, 1570x2253, 20230425_100529~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624991

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:29:16 2023 No.6625138 >>6625091 The "teacher" is a massive retard who cant draw humans for jackshit. Take Marshal Vandruffs perspective course. It will teach you the very basics for everything and you can learn other things from there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:34:55 2023 No.6625144 >>6624997 draw frog

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:40:22 2023 No.6625151 She is 300 years old

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:42:39 2023 No.6625155 File: 1.07 MB, 2468x3508, IMG_20230425_103650.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She is 300 years old

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:45:33 2023 No.6625160 File: 1.54 MB, 998x1264, rsz_1gy1d3e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any feedback? I'm pretty early on in The Vilppu Drawing Manual.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:51:30 2023 No.6625168 >>6625160 Pretty inaccurate. I don't know much about Vilppu but it looks like you're just trying to copy line for line instead of constructing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 16:58:10 2023 No.6625181 File: 2.59 MB, 2003x2419, Untitled-6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I improve at painting from here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:04:15 2023 No.6625189 >>6625181 your thumbnail reads like literally nothing go darker with your values which is spooky I know but right now everything just blends together

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:08:36 2023 No.6625191 >>6625189 Which means that I would darken the shadow values while keeping the light values more or less the same?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:17:20 2023 No.6625206 File: 306 KB, 319x510, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625181 wtf is this creature?

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:22:51 2023 No.6625213

>>6625168
I constructed. Gesture, then laid the spheres on top of it, basically like a snowman going from head to larger sphere for the torso to even larger for the hips. Then more spheres come for the limps and the joints therein. I realize there are some inaccuracies in proportion and whatnot, though. I only noticed that after laying the two side by side, for instance, her hips are a lot more round on mine than in the drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:24:34 2023 No.6625216 File: 563 KB, 1280x720, E6YLD4JXsAUQR9-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Crossposting in here for some advice. >>6625201

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:30:13 2023 No.6625225

>>6625181
Look at artists work that you like and compare it directly with your own. Generally your biggest issue here is lack of contrast, which can come from hue, saturation, and value.
Think about where you want to the viewer to focus and use those tools to make it stand out from everything else. Experiment

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:40:01 2023 No.6625234

>>6625213
To be more specific about what I see, her hip is too round sure. But on her upper leg, you made it appear as though her thigh immediately juts out after her knee, her lower leg's thigh is smaller. In the original image, the top of her thigh lays inline with the center line he marked going through the navel, where yours lies below it. Her lower tit also lacks any volume. It should be full, and squished into the ground, where yours is soft and limp. You also gave her heroin chic arms when the rest of the image protrays her as well fed. Her ribcage should also be egg shaped, with the widest point towards the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:43:00 2023 No.6625240 At what point do you start making "finished" drawings?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:54:09 2023 No.6625253 >>6625240 You should always finish your work otherwise you're just making an exercise

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:54:35 2023 No.6625256
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Any tips or recommendations based on my art?
Currently reading from Keys to Drawing.
Image sauces.
https://cdn.britannica.com/45/125545-050-B705597E/Coyote.jpg
https://a-z-animals.com/media/2022/01/shutterstock_275869880.jpg

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:55:42 2023 No.6625257
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>>6625189
Think this reads better.

>>6625206
Meh the fingers were supposed to be turning away but I can see how it looks bad.
If you mean the tendons and blocky fingers then that's just my Bammes brainrot

>>6625225
Thank you for the advice. The values are definitely pussyfooted which affects the contrast.
Unfortunately this one feels unfixable and I will have to just keep it in mind for future paintings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:56:36 2023 No.6625259 >>6625181 Heckin' basef. Reminds me a lot of Todd McFarlane's artwork for Korn

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 17:57:12 2023 No.6625261 >>6624961 >New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q why remove this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:00:09 2023 No.6625262 >>6625240 Finish is relative.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:01:02 2023 No.6625264 >>6625256 Looking good man. Whose handwriting are you trying to imitate on these drawings?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:05:16 2023 No.6625269 File: 402 KB, 1694x2004, 20230425_120243~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625116

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:07:28 2023 No.6625270 Anyone got the link to the NMA Videos? Pretty sure someone gathered them some time ago

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:07:38 2023 No.6625271 File: 41 KB, 1238x760, cock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what is the purpose of 30 sec poses

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:09:15 2023 No.6625273 >>6625271 V I S U A L L I B R A R Y

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:09:24 2023 No.6625274 >>6625039 >>6625049 >>6625055 Thanks you guys >>6625144 Frog?

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:09:47 2023 No.6625276

>>6625261
I didn't realize there was a new sticky. Edit the format for the next thread and keep it for /beg/inners as /int/cels have plenty of other threads they can post on.
>collaborative sticky (anyone can edit)
It's bad enough when a beginner's input for some of the drawings are like "arm too short", "reference bad", "penis too long"...
And you want them to collaborate their fallacies as a reliable source for learning how to draw? Fuck that shit. Stick to Loomis.

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:23:14 2023 No.6625294

>>6625276
the new sticky has one key piece of advice at the beginning which is to just draw(tm) items from nature with high margins of error for a few weeks before even doing Loomis or fundies, the old sticky basically just pays lip service to the idea then jumps straight into shit that will confuse and filter anyone who hasn't actually spent time just sketching

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:38:20 2023 No.6625318 >>6625264 Eugene Delacroix

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:44:39 2023 No.6625327 >>6625257 i like it has a creepy doll vibe to it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:52:50 2023 No.6625340 >>6625259 >>6625327 Thank you anons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:56:24 2023 No.6625346 File: 246 KB, 1105x897, imagem_2023-04-25_155603911.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624859 sorry if it disappoints you but I was sort of trying to get coomer attention too

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:57:03 2023 No.6625348 Is it even possible to learn drawing with adhd? I have real trouble remembering stuff, and seeing everyone talking about building up a visual library, this seems to me like an impossible task. The only thing I'm naturally good at is perspective

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:57:34 2023 No.6625349 File: 532 KB, 1549x861, imagem_2023-04-25_155726114.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625346

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 18:59:22 2023 No.6625350 >>6625349 for what are the indentations in their faces

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:01:39 2023 No.6625355 >>6625348 your visual library is not something you actively remember, more like shapes and rules about how to draw stuff that your subconscious internalizes

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:05:12 2023 No.6625360 File: 127 KB, 450x398, imagem_2023-04-25_160443861.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625350 helps me with the eye socket eye brow and nose bridge placement

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:10:25 2023 No.6625369 File: 180 KB, 2048x1563, 1682449803703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I achieve lineart like this in Krita?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:15:11 2023 No.6625378 >>6625349 I appreciate the attempt at decent high heels on the rightmost figure. Most artists completely fuck that up and it either looks like a flat with a stick glued to it or the whole shoe looks like a fucking horseshoe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:22:21 2023 No.6625389 >>6625253 I meant when do you stop doing exercises and start doing finished drawings? I currently just do exercises.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:34:10 2023 No.6625410 >>6625240 imo you can "finish" at line art or flat colors or rendering or cast line and shadows any of those steps, as long as it is clean, can be considered finished imo

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:34:52 2023 No.6625413 >>6625369 Yes. You can achieve line art like this in paint, all you need is skill

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 19:47:10 2023 No.6625435 >>6625413 >Yes. You can achieve line art like this in paint >paint has pen pressure for weight and density whoa

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 20:06:18 2023 No.6625458 >>6625369 No, I'm sorry but that is impossible. You'd better give up on that dream.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 20:08:43 2023 No.6625461 >>6625369 read Kreuzlöring's book Methodology-Based Approach to Line Weight in Art and Adjacent Fields the mcmillan edition not the later ones

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 20:26:19 2023 No.6625483 File: 187 KB, 1103x1206, head.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625016 pick your poison

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 20:30:23 2023 No.6625487 Are we bringing back the beginner thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 20:53:52 2023 No.6625519 File: 530 KB, 1280x720, E6iPDwhX0AM8drL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625216 I'm just going to do the NMA Russian Drawing Approach.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 21:15:09 2023 No.6625543 What happend to Esdeath guy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 21:18:43 2023 No.6625551 >>6625369 How is this brush called?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 21:30:13 2023 No.6625570 >>6625543 left because people kept trying to help him and he also tried to apply to an art school if I remember correctly the entire thing was very autistic

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 21:30:56 2023 No.6625572 >>6625065 They're good, anon. You should try different textures and colors next time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:12:04 2023 No.6625638 File: 42 KB, 800x865, owari.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not been drawing for long but I wanted to quickly try out if I could construct something and I failed miserably. I think I keep to more simple stuff for now

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:12:31 2023 No.6625640 Is using hentai as reference for bodies a terrible idea? Can't really think of a better way to study cartoon figures

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:13:39 2023 No.6625642 >>6625640 If you draw more when studying from hentai then go for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:26:56 2023 No.6625658 >>6625638 just keep drawing and come back to construction regularly, keep failing and improving until you get to a point where you don't fail miserably anymore

Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:28:32 2023 No.6625663
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Hello beg, the book is done. Curiously it omitted 3P perspective. Tomorrow i will skim two other pers books and pick the one which differs the most from the one i just completed. Using ink (hard round brush) is okay and very needed practice for me.

>>6625640
if the hentai is well drawn (rare, a lot of hentai is very lmao in terms of anatomy and perspective) then it should be okay. If it is good then you will be basically doing master studies which are always good for developing good taste and style
>>6625543
he got to art school so now he is shitposting in real life
>>6625348
https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/study-tips-for-adhd
https://www.forbes.com/sites/melodywilding/2018/04/19/how-to-use-adhd-to-your-advantage/
>>6625256
keep going anon, you are just at chapter 2, the real art battles lies beyond
>>6625240
whenever you want anon
>>6625181
greater value range, matching female figure VS male hand
>>6625065
i kneel
>>6624997
less thinking, more drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:45:14 2023 No.6625682 >>6624997 You suffer more in imagination than in reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:45:48 2023 No.6625683 File: 63 KB, 778x1000, 343321913_1848927515487969_455736983125125544_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drew a crazy lookin hotty

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 22:47:03 2023 No.6625685 >>6625683 she could ruin me >cucktoons ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 23:01:40 2023 No.6625704 >>6625685 ya thas my page i normally draw comics

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 25 23:25:26 2023 No.6625736 fuck drawing legs

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 00:19:46 2023 No.6625789 File: 407 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_20230425-201827_Gallery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Warm up sketches Bottom two are copies from Mike Phillips And I'm sure everyone recognizes the How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way pose on the right

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 00:27:56 2023 No.6625800 >>6625789 >How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way Why isn't this the obligstory beginner book rather than Loomis? Teaches basically the same stuuf but is more appealling and easier to understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 00:32:53 2023 No.6625805 File: 40 KB, 884x691, coommilla.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wish I could do this from memory, studies feel like cheating

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 00:34:50 2023 No.6625808 >>6625800 Not everybody wants to draw comics. The truth is that the best how to draw book for the beginner is any book as long as it gets them to draw and to think methodically and systematically while drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 00:44:27 2023 No.6625818 anyone know the difference between the 190 page marvel book and the 160 page one? is it just print size?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:05:51 2023 No.6625835 >>6625049 >>6625483 THanks bros.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:36:11 2023 No.6625865 File: 1005 KB, 713x950, rslurv2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i drew some dorks

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:42:19 2023 No.6625872
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How do I make my boxes seem more 3D? Pic related almost all of my boxes lack a certain je ne sais quoi, with the exception of the one I pointed out.

To elaborate, I'm doing organic perspective drawabox and I can't for the life of me understand drawabox guy's explanation on how a box becomes "farckled". I do understand my boxes look farckled but I can't understand what I'm doing wrong to make them look that way.

This video has a timestamp to the portion where he demonstrates farckling.
https://youtu.be/PujfzitddLI?t=166

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:45:17 2023 No.6625877 File: 91 KB, 1440x882, beg boxes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6625872 stop drawing beg boxes, also irshad sucks

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:49:25 2023 No.6625881
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In my current position at work I've found myself getting a lot more downtime from actual labour. Rather than just spending that time on my phone like a gremlin I'd like to start using that time to practice, any suggestions on stuff that can be done to train for brief periods?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:51:01 2023 No.6625884 >>6625881 hammer out gestures like a madman

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 01:55:37 2023 No.6625894 >>6625881 Work on composition by drawing thumbnail sketches

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 02:20:50 2023 No.6625910

I am very confused in the order which I should try to learn figure drawing. I'm currently trying to learn to draw clothing so I don't just draw nudes/have something I can actually show to family without embarassing everyone, but I've found out that my understanding of the figure and anatomy are weak at certain angles so the quality of my clothing studies fluctuate wildly. Should I go back to figure drawing/anatomy studies for a while longer? How do pros usually combine the 2 together?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 02:22:55 2023 No.6625912 >>6625872 why draw boxes, that's retarded. Just draw nigga, drawing boxes is boring and not necessary. Just study bodies and really observe how different poses act in 3d space, you learn more by copying your favorite art than by drawing boxes

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 02:24:27 2023 No.6625917

>>6625910
i don't even know what kind of person would get squeamish about nudity in art besides maybe like, mormons?
stick to drawing nude until you get it down pat, even if you're drawing clothing on top you'll usually want to get the naked figure drawn underneath first

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 02:28:31 2023 No.6625920 >>6624997 Yea I spent 2 months on DAB for the same reason, unironically just get into it. You’ll never get good if you don’t try

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 02:44:34 2023 No.6625935 >>6625912 both are important. ignoring either is limiting

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 02:58:46 2023 No.6625940

>>6625912
>>6625935
As someone who drew lots of boxes, it is important at first, but there's a cap to how much improvement you get out of it. Once you can draw a passable box, move on, and don't grind boxes anymore. However, copying your favorite art offers unlimited improvement. You could do master copies for 20 years and still keep improving.

The analogy would be like doing pushups. Eventually, you'll get so strong pushups won't cut it anymore. You'll have to switch to the Bench Press

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:02:47 2023 No.6625944 >>6625884 >>6625894 Thank you for the suggestions

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:11:59 2023 No.6625949 File: 176 KB, 984x1220, cuddle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need some anatomy check and stuff. I also plan for their legs to intersect. I will be able to reply/fix in few hours tho, so take your time. Thanks!

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:19:56 2023 No.6625953

>>6625910
While anatomy is very important for an artist to learn, I would say construction, proportion, and gesture/pose are slightly more important when drawing the clothed figure. Even if the figure is wearing a long skirt, you'll still need to know how those legs are positioned under that skirt. Knowing how to draw the most commonly visible body parts becomes crucial: the head, the face, the neck, arms and legs, hands and feet.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:41:36 2023 No.6625971

so it bothers me that I cant draw from imagination with ok results. theres also nothing wrong with using reference but it feels like a crutch to me. If someone asked me to draw a character on my own with just a pen and paper it would look like complete shit. Is it just ego? who would even check to see if the art is “purely” mine? i dont know im just rambling

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:43:07 2023 No.6625973 >>6625949 your proportions are way off. Take a look at those t-rex arms. Too /beg/ to not be drawing from reference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:50:01 2023 No.6625980 >>6625971 Drawing isn't a performing art. See Proko's kangaroo.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:52:53 2023 No.6625984 File: 74 KB, 447x640, IMG_4267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	yes Wed Apr 26 03:53:25 2023 No.6625987 File: 221 KB, 335x376, т2щ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] XHYSV

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:55:05 2023 No.6625989 >>6625987 Yes is a good band

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 03:57:03 2023 No.6625991 File: 596 KB, 771x900, figstudy rs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Figure study

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 04:05:52 2023 No.6625995 >>6625986 Hot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 04:45:04 2023 No.6626031 File: 1.15 MB, 1668x2388, IMG_2019.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624961 Dude i don’t understand colors. How do i make my colors look attractive, pop, appealing? “Color theory” yes, I know ive studied it and yet this is what i get…help

>>	yes Wed Apr 26 04:47:52 2023 No.6626036 >>6626031 just draw lines 20 more years

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 04:51:46 2023 No.6626040 >>6626036 What are u even talking about?

Puff Wed Apr 26 04:53:55 2023 No.6626045

>>6626031
Focus more on values
Turn yr drawings to black and white and see if there’s variation in how bright or dark they are.
In that drawing it’s mostly all the same shade when in black and white
To make things “pop” you want lots of contrast. That can be caused by having a really dark colour right up against a really light colour. Or something saturated against something pastel. Contrasting colours also “pop”

Maybe try doing some black and white drawings to focus purely on value and then try colour

Good luck anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 04:56:24 2023 No.6626047 >>6626031 your colors are fine, they could work with the way they are now. You just draw weird looking faces. Especially mouths.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 04:59:32 2023 No.6626050 File: 402 KB, 1521x881, imagem_2023-04-26_015921799.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:07:58 2023 No.6626058 >>6626047 >Especially mouths Is that mouth really that weird looking? How is everyone always criticizing my mouths on here or is it the same anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:10:15 2023 No.6626061 File: 236 KB, 1000x1000, marisa alt costume (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't like my line art, any tips?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:29:13 2023 No.6626078 Should I clean up my gesture drawings or just do them then move on to the next no matter the quality, very new to drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:30:08 2023 No.6626080 >>6626058 If more than one person is pointing out the same flaw then that should be a sign to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:32:56 2023 No.6626081 >>6625865 The colours are very cool. Me like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:42:39 2023 No.6626093 >>6626078 Depends. I don't think it's very useful as a learning exercise but I do find it motivating to clean them up and give them a little bit of form so they don't look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:43:41 2023 No.6626094 >>6625991 lmao this dude has his dong out

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 05:47:54 2023 No.6626097

>>6626031
Color wise I would say that Power's hair feels to close to her skin (on my screen anyway). You can saturate her hair and/or shift it towards orange. Or make her skin paler, but that might make her look sickly so I'd avoid it.

Also to be fair I'd say that Kobeni's face reads the way it should, honestly if you start changing the mouth 1000 times on this it might make it less expressive. Just probably draw in the eyelashes on the far eye.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:01:58 2023 No.6626118 >>6625638 >ads oucr. Huh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:04:43 2023 No.6626119 >>6626081 ty anon

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:10:34 2023 No.6626122
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>>6625638
do the Vilppu Drawing Manual exercises. Spend 1 week on each chapter. When you're done with the book, go back to chapter 1 and do it again, and again. Once you've worked through the drawing manual 5-10 times, start copying Bridgman and Morpho

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:20:16 2023 No.6626130 >>6626061 get rid of those random lines in the hair and just incorporate that part of the hair with coloring instead. also fix the thickness of the middle finger.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:22:18 2023 No.6626132
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Anyone got advice on reducing finger cramping when drawing? I'm using a pen tablet, and I bought a bigger glove because the original huion is fucking tiny and was crushing my pinkie finger and ring finger. This helped a bit, but after 15 minutes or so I'm still getting cramps in these two fingers, and now I'm wondering if it's a posture issue. I've increased the sensitivity of the tablet the most I am comfortable with so I don't have to press as hard but this hasn't helped. Also ordered an even bigger glove to see if that helps.

What is the best posture for holding a tablet pen? I tried to push as light as I can, but then the tablet doesn't register me drawing

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:31:16 2023 No.6626138

>>6626132
This happened to me, and I developed trigger finger in my pinky. That causes your pink to lock into a closed position and it won't open. That happens because the tendon swells, and it can no longer slide gracefully through the fascia sheaths which guide it. I suggest you take a break from drawing and ease back into it, otherwise you face months of physical therapy.

Ease back into drawing, 30 minutes a day, then an hour a day, then 2 hours a day. Your tendons will strengthen over time. Hold your pen very LIGHTLY. It's the tight grip that's causing this. Switch to a mechanical pencil on paper, if you can, so you are forced to grip lightly.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:34:48 2023 No.6626140

>>6626138
I'm actually still incredibly new to drawing, really only started practicing over the past week or so digitally. I did traditional art on paper when I was really young and never had this tensing issue, but I had a much more relaxed posture back then which won't register on the tablet

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:38:33 2023 No.6626143 >>6625065 Looks great. Good practice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:57:08 2023 No.6626157 >>6626061 Check out line weight or a csp guide on lineart. Lineart itself is a form of art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 06:59:36 2023 No.6626159 >>6626140 try going back to traditional for a while, and see if anything changes. If it gets worse, you should see a doctor

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 08:05:19 2023 No.6626191

>>6626132
https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/learn-how-to-hold-a-pencil-1123296

this unironically helped me at least. other than that stay loose and relaxed and if you feel pain you’re presumably doing it wrong so take a break. some light stretching as well as a sort of warmup could help too. i play a few instruments so I’m used to this sort of thing by now, basically if you feel sore/genuine pain it’s always better to be cautious and take some rest days. Its not a race anyway, 48 hours of rest is better than a minute of injury. The alternative is a lifetime of tendonitis. Lol.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 08:29:12 2023 No.6626207

>>6626078
As a beginner, it is important to focus on the process of drawing rather than the end result. Gesture drawings are usually quick, rough sketches meant to capture the essence and movement of a subject. It is not necessary to produce a perfect drawing at this stage.

It is recommended that you do as many gesture drawings as you can, without worrying too much about the quality. The more you practice, the better you will become. As you gain experience, you may find yourself naturally improving in terms of accuracy and detail.

That being said, if you feel like you need to clean up your gesture drawings for further practice, you may certainly do so. Just keep in mind that the goal is to develop your skills and understanding of the human form through practice and repetition, rather than creating a polished finished product.

Remember to be patient with yourself and enjoy the learning process. With time and practice, you will improve your drawing skills significantly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 08:45:48 2023 No.6626219 File: 66 KB, 298x396, Untitled-3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624969

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:02:19 2023 No.6626232 >>6626132 I've never used a glove, I keep my tablet right in front of me, I don't squeeze my pencil, I keep my wrist straight, and I sit up straight if I catch myself slouching too much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:05:51 2023 No.6626233 >>6625572 I still don't know how to use textures. Anyone here have any recommended videos on the subject?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:11:08 2023 No.6626240 when you start drawing a figure where do you guys start? head or torso? just curious, not asking for advice or anything, i know it depends

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:16:54 2023 No.6626249 >>6626240 torso

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:19:36 2023 No.6626254 >>6626240 head. It's the focal point of the figure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:22:10 2023 No.6626255 >>6626240 The pelvis first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:22:39 2023 No.6626257 >>6626240 the penis

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:23:57 2023 No.6626258 >>6626257 Post it faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:27:47 2023 No.6626261 File: 398 KB, 839x768, 1620002615762.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >can draw the head >can draw the hands >can even draw a simple body >can’t draw the feet i didn’t think i’d get this far

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:29:44 2023 No.6626262 >>6626078 i like to color its fun (:

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:32:37 2023 No.6626267 File: 697 KB, 640x853, kixh6z6ruqpa1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6626261 follow your bliss

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:33:26 2023 No.6626268 >>6626267 Why are her soles orange

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 09:34:23 2023 No.6626270 >>6626268 nutritious skin flakes

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 10:54:37 2023 No.6626318 >>6626267 Your disgusting hags do nothing for me, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 11:34:18 2023 No.6626363 File: 2.80 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20230425_232607.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts? Not sure how to go about the foliage

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 11:34:53 2023 No.6626366 File: 1.68 MB, 1747x2237, IMG_20230409_191537~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6626363 Ref

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 11:45:40 2023 No.6626379 >>6626363 >>6626366 The subject itself is very complex anon. I applaud your effort. There are some good books on pencil techniques that you can read. Just search "Rendering with pencil".

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 11:57:59 2023 No.6626389 >>6626031 why is their skin so ridiculously saturated and pink especially when they're supposed to be asian

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:08:02 2023 No.6626396 >>6626389 Kobeni sure but I wouldn't say Power is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:22:50 2023 No.6626409 >>6625877 Thanks for the pictograph. I see what I'm doing wrong now. >>6625912 I'm not going to be drawing boxes forever, but I do want a better understanding of them (and other shapes) for tackling construction of the human body and other bodies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:27:59 2023 No.6626416 File: 188 KB, 700x1129, 20230421_104852.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624961 I need help seeing what I could improve. And if anything looks "Off"

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:28:14 2023 No.6626417 [DELETED]

Beginner here, I brought an intuos CTS from a yardsale and it apparently comes with a bluetooth upgrade. Thing is, it's out of print and it costs like 10x more than the tablet itself. Is there such a thing as a bluetooth adapter that plugs directly into the micro usb port so it can send signals to another usb receiver like pic related?
Not really a big deal, but I'd like to make my tablet less cumbersome to move since I like to do my loomis drills in the living room.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:30:58 2023 No.6626419
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Beginner here, I brought an intuos CTS from a yardsale and it apparently comes with a bluetooth upgrade. Thing is, it's out of print and it costs like 10x more than the tablet itself. Is there such a thing as a bluetooth adapter that plugs directly into the micro usb port so it can send signals to another usb receiver like pic related?
Not really a big deal, but I'd like to make my tablet less cumbersome to move since I like to do my loomis drills in the living room.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:35:43 2023 No.6626426 File: 2.60 MB, 4000x3384, 04-25-23 Gesture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yesterdays gesture

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:38:06 2023 No.6626429 >>6626416 Looks pretty good. Think her neck might be a bit long.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:42:13 2023 No.6626434

>>6626429
I tried the cranial unit measurement. Might have screwed up by fingering ;) instead of measuring it with a ruler or something. Or I might need another repherence point when the back is arched.
Thank you for the feedback. Will continue to "just draw" and read on how things are done by other people .

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 12:43:17 2023 No.6626436 >>6625369 sauce pls?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 13:39:36 2023 No.6626465 >>6625973 >t-rex arms Ah, I see now on the woman. Thanks, I thought I might be making them too long and kept shortening them.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 13:49:01 2023 No.6626473
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Keys 3.2
Very wonky head and despite my best effort with the hand I have had no luck. When I cover the two eyes I notice that the face looks very different, the eyes don't match one bit. Though I'm happier with the overall observing and drawing compared to my previous one (besides the head). One very long leg and bit too large shoe otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:13:56 2023 No.6626503 File: 264 KB, 1454x2000, tamer col copia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can I make the light refract on him like an aura without blocking the background?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:17:16 2023 No.6626506 How to draw a feet

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:23:04 2023 No.6626514 >>6626506 Draw hand Flip vertically ???? Profit!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:36:00 2023 No.6626522 >>6625935 As soon as you can draw a somewhat 3d looking box you should move on That's more than enough to serve as a base for figure drawing or whatever else and you'll get more out of actually working on those at that point

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:37:09 2023 No.6626524

>>6626506
Ask the foot fetishist priest of the sniff clan. Dial it back because heathens can not comprehend such majesty immediately and need to be lead to enlightenment.
Also you could start by drawing a circle (heel) triangle with the tip commiing from the ankle. Making a bone sketsh inside. Add tendons and add thick skin with (i think ) fat padding inside.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:39:17 2023 No.6626527

>>6625872
No perspective on the boxes themselves.
I did DAB for a while, eh while I wouldn't say I regret it, it's not the best, and by the time you're done the 250 box meme you got all he has to offer. Check out perspective made easy. I think it's a lot better at presenting his main thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:43:34 2023 No.6626530 File: 424 KB, 3508x2480, female-body.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried myself at a normal female body. Previously I always used athletes or gym people as references. Very unhappy with these results. Thin women are weird.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:43:46 2023 No.6626531
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I don't know where else to ask but how good exactly is this art? As far as I know this is the guys draft work, he the one drawing the comedy Elden Ring manga but this work of his is about a decade old. Just want to know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 14:47:47 2023 No.6626535 >>6626531 It's fine? Nothing impressive but everything reads as what it is and there's enough of a sense of volume. Passable for comic work/visual storytelling

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 15:00:33 2023 No.6626550
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>>6625872
>Drawabox
beg trap

learn to draw cubes
>how?
watch some video about basic perspective and copy cubes accurately
https://streamable.com/f6a76h
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/cube-c23a21ee541c49d3a1799ef09fe42d9d

congrats you master perspective

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 15:03:42 2023 No.6626555

>>6626530
Bad reference, pose is flat, you don't get to study the actual volume of the body. Get figure drawing references where the pose is more three-dimensional.

>>6626473
It's fine. But you put too much effort into the face without enough focus on plumb lines and proportion. Good job on the negative space, but that exercise is all about getting the relative sizes down. By this point you should also be trying to add basic values

Use a darker pencil.

>>6626426
Wasting time and strokes by petting some lines.

>>6626416
You're doing well. Work on avoiding smudges and getting some clearer dark lines the first time around (without so much erasing) to improve readability.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 15:05:27 2023 No.6626559 >>6626555 >Get figure drawing references where the pose is more three-dimensional Do you have any suggestions where to look?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 15:06:46 2023 No.6626562 >>6626559 Artbook thread has some jap photo reference books Lineofaction is hit and miss, but you can find decent enough ones. Lurk ref threads when they pop up, keep a ref folder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 15:47:23 2023 No.6626586 File: 149 KB, 1396x1010, 6z7iqFUUch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] show me your insect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 16:42:12 2023 No.6626648 Is anyone else learning how to draw so that they can draw comics?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 16:48:44 2023 No.6626659 File: 134 KB, 618x1000, amber.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6626648 I am! Hope to someday

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 16:52:16 2023 No.6626669 >>6626659 If it were up to me, I'd say you're ready. But it's up to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 16:53:49 2023 No.6626672 >>6626669 Appreciate that, anon. I feel like I'm still lacking quite a bit, but thank you for the vote of confidence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 16:56:16 2023 No.6626679 >>6626586 These are great! Now color them and shade them

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 17:02:46 2023 No.6626689 File: 429 KB, 715x1020, tots.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] for some reason all my digital art feels really thick how do people make theirs feel lighter i have no better vocabulary for this

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 17:08:28 2023 No.6626696 >>6626648 Yea, someday. I hope so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 17:11:26 2023 No.6626700 >>6626689 Not really sure what you mean, but maybe try lessening the opacity of your brushes? Use a smaller brush for lineart? Hard to say without knowing what you mean by thick

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 17:15:13 2023 No.6626703 >>6626689 show your trad work?

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 17:53:56 2023 No.6626745
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wanted to draw some big booba with spillage
turned into having to rework the entire torso
/salt/ anon gave me a nice 3d ref
still need to figure out how the legs connect to the torso better

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 18:09:40 2023 No.6626758 >>6626745 fusing the belly with the rest of the pelvis looks bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 18:43:17 2023 No.6626790 File: 84 KB, 564x1779, ea979591f69ee9cf44a44e32b57a4eb5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey good morning I want to kill myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 18:44:42 2023 No.6626792 File: 340 KB, 470x576, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6626703 these are copies of some drawings i liked i don't have anything original recently sorry

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 19:01:20 2023 No.6626811 >>6626758 yeah I agree. I'm going to study the whole pelvis area more before I continue I think

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 19:16:06 2023 No.6626829 >>6626524 Why do i need to draw bones they’re invisible

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 19:43:01 2023 No.6626869 >>6625271 damn, I'm all for the everyone has is own way of doing gesture and there's no wrong ways to do it but you prove me wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 19:43:27 2023 No.6626870 >>6626790 Come on Shinji even Hideaki got over his issues, it's been thirty fucking years Take it easy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 20:17:50 2023 No.6626910 File: 45 KB, 707x701, rofl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624969 i lol'd when I saw you used my loomis sketch from the other day

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 20:19:12 2023 No.6626913 File: 96 KB, 798x927, tree2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tree

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 20:20:14 2023 No.6626915 >>6626869 why what's wrong with it

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 20:21:39 2023 No.6626917 >>6623211 >>6623183 it was me, i was surprised it was the OP but i swear im not really schizo..i just get messed up from time to time and appear schizo idk and maybe i kinda like posting on /ic/ ...sigh maybe ive just been here too long

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 21:04:25 2023 No.6626951 File: 66 KB, 455x774, sai_MBMbpSllW2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I understand it a little better

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 21:33:28 2023 No.6626980
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>Start Keys to Drawing after spending years on and off toiling with drawing boxes
>Get to the very first exercise, use a picture of crossed shoes as reference (i cannot be arsed to physically use my own crossed shoes as reference because it just seems awkward.
>End up getting overwhelmed with detail, overcome with frustration the whole way through
I still want to power through this, but just, why the fuck is this even the first exercise?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 21:37:15 2023 No.6626984 >>6626980 >overwhelmed with detail I started following the FZD "difficulty scale" of things to just sketch (rocks, dead trees, animal skulls etc) and this is pretty much how I feel a lot of the time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 21:45:37 2023 No.6626989 >>6626980 Using a picture defeats the purpose. fast lane to ngmi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 21:49:17 2023 No.6626993 >>6626989 How so? I can't just hold the same position with my feet for so long, especially considering I have attention span issues, and the angle at which I'd see them from is awkward. A picture is completely still and can be seen at face level.

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Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:00:29 2023 No.6627007

>>6626792
do you mean like line weight? or the smoothness of your strokes? could try zooming out more
>>6626993
drawing from life and drawing from photograph are different experiences, the photograph has already "flattened" things for you so you can just copy shapes. it sounds like a trivial difference but it's somewhat challenging if you're not used to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:02:48 2023 No.6627009 did some absolutely fucking terrible gestures and "croquis" but still happy i drew at all... maybe some day itll click

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:22:01 2023 No.6627029 how do I overcome just watching youtube and pressing f5 on several 4chan shitposts I made instead of actually drawing? Once I start, I love it, but I don't start wtf is wrong with me? Like a fear of drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:22:26 2023 No.6627031 >>6626980 People spend years doing drawabox?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:24:49 2023 No.6627035 Hi guys. Can someone give me some hopium about the future of drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:26:11 2023 No.6627038 File: 45 KB, 473x500, 1633295349201.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627031 The crab course.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:27:15 2023 No.6627040 File: 1.29 MB, 1344x768, 00383-562708008.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627035 No, it's over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:28:26 2023 No.6627041 >>6627035 We're so back.

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:30:25 2023 No.6627045

>>6627031
I meant I tried doing the first exercises of a certain course or book and gave up midway through. Didn't even fully do the first exercise of Drawabox. Every time I gave up it took up to a year for me to muster the courage to draw only to give up again due to sheer distraction. I want to do it for real this time though

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:31:38 2023 No.6627046

>>6627029
>Once I start, I love it
There's your answer. Literally just start. Motivation itself is a myth. Or rather, the will to do something comes from starting that thing.
I've found it helpful to tell myself "I'm going to get up and do the thing in 5 second." and then counting down from 5. Works every time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:32:18 2023 No.6627047 File: 660 KB, 765x597, 1682391914655055.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624961 >>6626917 >>6622058 >>6624495 >AVYGSK ;_; what did you mean by this ? Im so thankful for the fanart : 3

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:38:51 2023 No.6627050 >>6627035 If you love to draw, the world is going to be your oyster. If you draw to be loved, Then prepare to be sounded with bullet ants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 22:46:52 2023 No.6627058 >>6627035 If you keep drawing Valhalla awaits you

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:00:59 2023 No.6627071
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Picrel is 2 quick sketches from reference (roughly)
Would studying a specific construction style or anatomy be a good use of resources from here? Cause that's what I'm about to start doing.

I'm mostly just wanting to know if there's anything I would benefit from grinding more before starting. Any advice is wanted though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:03:48 2023 No.6627074 >>6627050 NTA but what If I need human appreciation very badly and want to create stuff they like so I feel good why is that bad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:03:49 2023 No.6627075 >>6627071 GESTURE

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:08:04 2023 No.6627078

>>6627075
AIIIIIIIIIIE my weakness
I was kinda keeping that in mind for the one on the right and it still came out stiff. I've practiced it a little but didn't feel like i was in the position to learn anything from it. Guess I'll give it a more serious attempt. Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:15:35 2023 No.6627083 File: 443 KB, 1080x2168, 1228).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6624961 It's over. I'm a traditional artisst but when I start playing around with digital, it's over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:16:02 2023 No.6627085 >>6627050 This is the redpill people on this site need. You will die alone and nobody will ever love you. Stop being a faggot and accept this fact, instead of seeking validation in the arts

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:19:52 2023 No.6627091 >>6627085 Yes indeed. Just draw .

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:30:50 2023 No.6627107 File: 102 KB, 1124x1105, 1680395666191574.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627085 >hehe yeah I draw for ME you know? Here is my patreon link. >Musicians are making music just for themselves!

Anonymous Wed Apr 26 23:53:47 2023 No.6627148
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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:01:17 2023 No.6627158 >>6627107 Couldn't handle the blackpill that you're ngmi because you hate drawing and only do it for external validation?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:04:07 2023 No.6627162 >>6627074 Nothing wrong with wanting to be liked. The problem is if you are doing everything for everyone else, when are you going to have time to do what you want to do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:08:55 2023 No.6627167 I DON'T WANNA DRAW I DON'T WANNA DRAW I DON'T WANNA DRAW

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:10:33 2023 No.6627170 >>6627148 >>6627167 are the begs okay

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:34:39 2023 No.6627189 File: 1 KB, 125x70, 1681670040043635s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627170 no

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:45:18 2023 No.6627197 >>6627170 No

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:47:40 2023 No.6627199 File: 147 KB, 1080x720, Photo on 4-23-23 at 8.52 PM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You are going to be ok : )

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:52:32 2023 No.6627203 >>6627170 Each day I task myself with drawing I must somehow confront the reality of my dogshit scribbles while also attempting to nurture the delusion that someday I am going to "make it".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:56:17 2023 No.6627205 >>6625138 >>6625091 Update, I just powered through the exercise since I noticed literally no one is doing it correctly. I'll follow dynamic sketching by peter Han

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:00:22 2023 No.6627208 >>6627207 Turns out I didnt see that these threads are no longer beg and int sorry i was dumb

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:01:09 2023 No.6627209 File: 444 KB, 1000x930, 123.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:02:25 2023 No.6627212 File: 30 KB, 304x382, plsNObanKindSIR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6626318

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:02:43 2023 No.6627213 File: 20 KB, 200x200, 928237191--Clint-as-Gunny-Highway-Heartbreak-Ridge-clint-eastwood-34580931-200-200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627148 >>6627167 PICK UP THAT GODDAMN PENCIL AND GO BACK DRAWING MARINE

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:03:11 2023 No.6627215 >>6627207 Your stuff is very good! Just keep studying your figure drawing and copying your favorite artists. Watch this stream to see how a pro might continually study: https://youtu.be/7ukExmlSRWU

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:10:58 2023 No.6627232 >>6627212 Well that's a really fucking ugly foot. And I'm a footfag

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:33:47 2023 No.6627251 File: 133 KB, 979x1306, 20230426_193010~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] On the one hand I'm halfway through Marvel on the other half I still have half the Marvel book left to slog through.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:37:02 2023 No.6627255 File: 40 KB, 534x503, 20230425_120243~3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627213 I have done an hour tonight. My soul has left my body.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:38:22 2023 No.6627257 >>6627251 is the marvel book good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:38:42 2023 No.6627258 >>6627255 literally me..I lost a lot of weight in the last few years, I should try it again. BRB

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:42:09 2023 No.6627262 >>6627257 It is good and I feel like I am improving, but I am sick of the style, and I feel like the rendering isn't really applicable to my current goals of figure drawing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:43:32 2023 No.6627264 >>6627255 You don't need fairy bullshit like souls to draw. Not bad btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:59:22 2023 No.6627281 >>6627209 kek very nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:25:09 2023 No.6627316 File: 298 KB, 1366x2048, 1636235936002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How well can you draw this face?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:33:09 2023 No.6627329 Need a complete spoon feeding guide for beginners drawing people! I think I'm somehow worse now than when I was 5.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:39:24 2023 No.6627339 >>6627329 This is about as spoonfed as it gets: https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:40:35 2023 No.6627341 >>6627339 Thanks brother

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:52:10 2023 No.6627350 File: 332 KB, 521x772, castle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bad castle 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:53:27 2023 No.6627351 File: 1.13 MB, 956x1315, castle2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627350 bad castle 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:55:51 2023 No.6627355 >>6627350 >>6627351 I like them anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:07:54 2023 No.6627367 File: 110 KB, 947x2048, 20230426_223827.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627339 Thank you so much!!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:09:04 2023 No.6627368 >>6627350 >>6627351 I like them too >Bad castle >Bad dragon What's next, bad princess? Bad knight? A bacinet shaped dildo would be pretty interesting

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:40:59 2023 No.6627402 https://imgur.com/a/Evqgy1p I feel like I hit a plateau at this level. How could I have improved the metal texture? (offsite link so that janny doesn't choke on his hot pocket due to shock of seeing a pony)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:42:27 2023 No.6627407 >>6627402 draw her with chudjak

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:02:01 2023 No.6627435 File: 3.73 MB, 2480x3508, aaahhhhh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:03:50 2023 No.6627439 File: 428 KB, 1532x905, imagem_2023-04-27_010257923.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is giving me more work than I planned it to I drew better things before that, so I'm not sure if I'm not putting enough effort but it is what it is

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:08:30 2023 No.6627445 File: 71 KB, 1000x982, F54589CE-7059-4842-B5F0-F7718EDDCBCB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what the fuck is a gesture

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:10:12 2023 No.6627448 >>6627445 dont worry about it just draw some more boxes

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:19:47 2023 No.6627454 >>6627435 Why did you draw me as a cute animeu grill on an ancient pottery loo? Guess I have to draw SOMETHING now instead of procrastinating...

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:28:02 2023 No.6627464

>>6627445
a gesture refers to the pose or movement of a subject that is captured quickly and loosely with quick strokes or lines. It is generally used to capture the overall movement, energy, and feeling of a subject rather than to create a detailed representation. Gestures are often used as a warm-up exercise before starting a more detailed drawing, or they can be incorporated into a finished piece to add dynamism and fluidity. Gesture drawing is an important skill for artists to develop as it helps them to quickly capture the essence of a subject and convey it in their work.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:34:42 2023 No.6627472

>>6627464
this is a very superficial definition of gesture. Gesture is posing. It's body language, it's acting, it's storytelling. Artists need to learn to pose their characters and give them natural postures true to the story

It's NOT squiggly fucking lines. It's NOT an art school exercise. It's NOT something you "incorporate into a finish piece to add dynamism and fluidity.

Also, your post reeks of ChatGPT

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:43:19 2023 No.6627482 >>6627472 >Also, your post reeks of ChatGPT because it is :D

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:51:58 2023 No.6627491 File: 3.59 MB, 1431x1675, 1598973119149.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627482

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:19:15 2023 No.6627530 File: 67 KB, 447x640, IMG_4283.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hope to rise to prebeg someday. Then beg, and just 10 more years to high beg.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:31:07 2023 No.6627551
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Why is it that the only time I can draw something decent looking is when I'm copying someone else? pic related is one of the first drawings I ever did on paper and all I did was find an anime girl online and try to emulate it

The quality of my art is very inconsistent and it feels like the only thing I'm good at is being a photocopier more than anything

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:32:21 2023 No.6627553 File: 1.19 MB, 2085x2460, eyes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I get some crit? Tried to do some heads w/o ref

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:55:47 2023 No.6627582

>>6627530
don't be so hard on yourself, you're at least mid-pre-beg
>>6627551
because it's easier, and it's a good way to improve
copy artists and styles you like, compare with the originals when you're done, then redraw the same image from memory later

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:07:19 2023 No.6627596 File: 60 KB, 420x758, image_2023-04-27_000631899.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've just seen a face I can't forget the time or place Where we just met

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:27:53 2023 No.6627608 >>6627472 How do I do it tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:28:47 2023 No.6627609 File: 536 KB, 711x780, photoshop_C5XG0xFZXN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627316 I hate portrait studies

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:29:08 2023 No.6627610 File: 85 KB, 640x480, 1603045542518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm too tired to drawn..

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:57:34 2023 No.6627723 >>6627610 stare at the sun

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 10:43:28 2023 No.6627978 >>6627609 what are those, eyes for ants?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:16:32 2023 No.6628001 File: 392 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_20230427-071524_Gallery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Photo ref on the left, then redrew the sketch to try to add dynamism

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:29:29 2023 No.6628008 File: 2.90 MB, 2732x2048, Gesture_Practice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm really struggling with the whole construction of the head. Can someone give me some pointers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:38:06 2023 No.6628017 >>6628008 You need to study the anatomy and forms of all the features individually

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:43:54 2023 No.6628019 >>6628008 >>6628017 To expand on that; what your doing is like building a wall with mush. You need to understand the structure of the skull, the planes of the face, the forms of the nose, eyes, mouth, etc, for construction to be useful

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:46:29 2023 No.6628020 >>6628017 >>6628019 Do you have a resource to explain this in more depth because I'm just going off what Hampton says.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:48:06 2023 No.6628021 >>6628020 Look up Steve Huston's book. He has some courses on NMA too

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:53:38 2023 No.6628022 >>6628021 NMA?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:54:46 2023 No.6628023 >>6628008 Your sideplane sucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:56:27 2023 No.6628026 >>6628023 Yeah that's the part I've had the most difficulty with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:01:25 2023 No.6628030 >>6628022 New Masters Academy. They might have some of it in the video thread. By the way, Hampton is notoriously bad when it comes to heads. I would take him with a pinch of salt

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:02:30 2023 No.6628032 >>6628022 https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:12:19 2023 No.6628038

I've tried practicing some faces today since I've been doing a poor job when observing and drawing them. I took the advice of an anon who replied to my work to use a pen when drawing to help with flow, it's almost definately the pen I'm suing but I found it too hard to draw the detail on the face (probably since it's a fineliner). I'm going to practice faces for another day so I can get a sense of what the right proportions are, and especially drawing the nose and eyes before I move onto the next Keys project.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:10:35 2023 No.6628205

Is it bad to draw many kinds of subjects? I feel like every artist on IG or twitter only draws the same thing, I want to paint whatever. Maybe one day a landscape, another day a robot, another a landscape except all fleshy and weird, then a bird. And so on.
Is that something to avoid? Looking at social media makes it seem like no one does stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:28:02 2023 No.6628220 >>6628205 People are catering to their audiences.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:55:15 2023 No.6628257 File: 2.83 MB, 2732x2048, quicktips.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6628008 start with getting the perspective of at least the front and side planes of the head right in this piece as they are all we really see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 16:02:41 2023 No.6628264 Airbrush goes so hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 16:13:52 2023 No.6628278 File: 596 KB, 914x898, sataniasuicide.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hello I want to kill myself bye

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 16:19:46 2023 No.6628284 >>6628257 Not buying this side plane either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 16:42:50 2023 No.6628310 File: 252 KB, 800x712, sideplane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6628008 agree with the other anon if you want your construction to look better study perspective rules and try to draw the simpler forms well, like box in perspective

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:20:18 2023 No.6628364

Does anyone else have this brain fog where they feel detached from their reality? Like, I can perceive things perfectly fine but once I start copying an object from life it's really apparent that I'm not "all there" and I feel like I can't absorb what I'm supposed to learn from it. I can't describe it well, hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:37:49 2023 No.6628391 >>6628364 Show work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:50:09 2023 No.6628410 File: 1.10 MB, 1920x1080, IMG_20230427_134548_HDR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6628391 Same anon as >>6626980 tried to apply the first exercise of KtD to a tissue box on my table. Half of it was drawing blind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:54:49 2023 No.6628415 >>6628410 forget about KTD and move on to something with construction or perspective, ignore life drawing you literally do not need it it's pure wankery

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:56:40 2023 No.6628418 >>6627551 The artist you are copying from has already broken down the object into simple forms, which is not any easy process for begs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:00:02 2023 No.6628420 >>6627582 so should I always try drawing shit without copying other artists? I'm just worried it'll look like shit if I'm not using some sort of reference

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:02:47 2023 No.6628424 >>6628415 I might do that, but I was asking about dealing with the brain fog problem

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:04:14 2023 No.6628427

>>6628420
It probably will. Drawing from reference, studies, and from imagination are all different skills that will require practice to be good at. Unless you intend to only ever do studies you will need to practice drawing from reference, life, or imagination as well. Not saying stop doing studies, but you probably shouldn't only do studies.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:08:21 2023 No.6628436

>>6628364
because you're learning how to see things. it's a skill you develop. you perceive things normally but when you're drawing it's like you're having to dissect what you normally see. taking visual information apart and putting it back together in drawing. you're gonna suck at it at first but it's a useful skill to have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:24:21 2023 No.6628446 File: 137 KB, 878x835, imagehelp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone help me out with this perspective I just need a red box to indicate the proper scale of the girls in relation to the background They are 1.65-1.75m tall

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:32:56 2023 No.6628454 >>6628427 I do use real life references but I run into the same issue. It just looks like I photo copied a body and put an anime girls head on it. but I will go ahead and try some without using references

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:42:38 2023 No.6628476 File: 1.90 MB, 1241x1179, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6628446

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:43:58 2023 No.6628481 File: 44 KB, 850x400, 9AABDE1E-88EA-4173-8109-BEE5B5A29246_5pi06sbd4o_xa7ae9iztp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6628446

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:50:51 2023 No.6628504 >>6628476 Thank you anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 18:57:28 2023 No.6628516 >>6628446 imagine the viewer is in the scene No matter where the bottom of their feet/top of their head is, the eye will always be on the same horizontal line (unless there's an elevation change)

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 19:33:31 2023 No.6628569
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hello beg. new book, old topic. i wanted to just skim through it and skip it when it will look the same. but its not the same at all!

>>6628364
sounds like you are overthinking while trying to get into the zone.
>>6628410
and try to put a liiitle more effort into your studies. drawing blind is mandatory skill but you need to balance it out with control and checking where your lines actually are
>>6628205
they are stuck in comfort zone and as such they will never ever improve, shitting out the same anime head in a vacuum for the rest of their art life. draw everything or stagnate. especially draw things you suck drawing at the most
>>6628038
you forgot to pyw
>>6628008
by the look at how you are trying to put eyes into 3/4 of the skull (instead of 1/2) and how super off your 3D shapes are i think you are super BEG who skipped the biggest fundie there is: observation. pick up keys to drawing to fix that.
>>6627553
they look deformed, the distance between eyes isnt consistent on multiple on them (too big). are you using references for checking? you should
>>6627551
because being able to draw consistently without ref is hallmark of PRO? keep at it and have realistic expectations :3
>>6627445
capture of movement in space. distilled essence or purpouse of object. a fleeting feeling. a signature of true artist
>>6627439
very solid and int like
>>6627402
the values are all same. shadows are not distinct enough and poopy (dont imply form). try painting in black-white only and then try to color it. find some picture of shiny armor and draw what you see as a study
>>6627351
this one is cool
>>6627329
keys to drawing. if that will be too hard then drawing for utter begginer
>>6627083
the secret tech is putting paper on the tablet to reduce friction. then pick textured brush immitating pencil or charcoal and you will feel like at trad home
>>6627005
cool and creative furry thot
>>6626980
the skill curve is the only weakness of ktd. but if you wont get filtered you will GMI

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:07:32 2023 No.6628623
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>>6628569
I drew this without a ref and most people responded to it positively but it's just a profile shot, I have trouble drawing bodies without making them flat.

It's the same with my other art. if I showed you my whole gallery you'd probably think some of it is /beg/ and other parts are /int/

I guess the reason I even bothered posting in this thread about it is because I'm trying to learn how to use references properly and to not be inconsistent with the quality

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:08:37 2023 No.6628625

I cant seem to find the right balance between polishing a turd and spending the right amount of effort on a piece. Im low/beg/ and ive never really made a finished personal piece, mostly just copies and timed figure drawing. My line confidence is abyssmal and my "art" doesnt have any sense of style or appeal at all. Somehow i do love the drawing process even though i have no imagination or taste

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:19:09 2023 No.6628640 >>6627596 Lol kill yourself beanmouth shill. I Would if I drew as bad as this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:28:16 2023 No.6628652 Reminder to observe in a meditative focused state for at least 5 minutes everyday. Pull up art you like, and observe every single little detail on it, perspective, shading, color, anatomy etc helps me more than studying it feels like

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:47:49 2023 No.6628689

What are the skills you believe an artist should be able to do when it comes to the fundamentals?
Like, what should you be able to accomplish with perspective? Anatomy? Composition?
You see anons here all the time directing others to study the fundies, but what's the litmus to reach for?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 21:27:29 2023 No.6628744 >>6628689 You'll know when you get there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 21:47:44 2023 No.6628778 >>6628744 Exactly the hollow non-answer I was expecting

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 21:49:41 2023 No.6628784 >>6628778 He's right, you either do art for yourself in which case whatever level it is you feel like is good enough for the content you wanna make is the litmus test, or doing it professionally in which case it doesn't matter as long as you get hired

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 22:08:06 2023 No.6628811 >>6626094 LMAAOOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 22:09:04 2023 No.6628813 File: 312 KB, 1476x1141, meows_1_36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 22:42:58 2023 No.6628858 File: 227 KB, 1080x1080, 1681154560027568.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm depressed and can't draw, I rather procrastrinate it's over.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:25:13 2023 No.6628916
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>>6628858
Drawing is a luxury, work on your mental health and well being first.

But if you feel like you need to draw, I watch some Bob Ross and paint along, I'm very /beg/ and give up before the end but it's comforting, you know?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:33:24 2023 No.6628929 >>6628481 wtf is this true

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:38:22 2023 No.6628934 How the fuck do I draw hair? People said read loomis, but all I see is explanations on skull shapes

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:41:41 2023 No.6628941 File: 1.32 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_1663.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:56:39 2023 No.6628956 File: 59 KB, 572x750, KCJvQv4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would it be a bad idea to use pic related as reference? Thought about trying to copy the pose and use a different character for the head. Or should I just try to free hand it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:03:54 2023 No.6628964 >>6628956 what do you mean "free hand it"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:06:52 2023 No.6628969 >>6628964 I just mean like should I just not use a reference and try to imagine the pose

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:13:39 2023 No.6628976

>>6628969
If you have to ask then yeah, use reference. Eventually when you get bored of copying you wanna branch out into autism fundies like perspective and construction if you really wanna get better at "free hand". Copying reference is NOT a waste of time for imaginative drawing, but I wouldn't spend more than a few days on it if you're just starting. I'm also beg though so with a grain of salt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:17:05 2023 No.6628981 >>6628969 ALWAYS use references when drawing, especially as a beginner. You need to build your visual library and not using them won't make anyone say "well this looks kind of shitty, but he did draw it from imagination, so it's a bit less shitty"

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:21:36 2023 No.6628990 >>6628981 so if I wanted to recreate the pose that figure is in, it'd be fine?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:25:10 2023 No.6628994 >>6628990 sure

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:25:56 2023 No.6628996 >>6628990 no

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:27:00 2023 No.6628997 File: 2.62 MB, 2080x4624, IMG_20230402_212844.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hallo

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:28:39 2023 No.6628999 File: 2.72 MB, 2080x4624, IMG_20230402_212853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Better version

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:28:57 2023 No.6629001 >>6628997 is this a blurry picture of a sketch of an old Russian writer pointing a gun at me

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:31:06 2023 No.6629007 I have an idea I want to draw, but I do not have the skill to execute it. It feels like being fully conscious but lacking the language to communicate at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:42:29 2023 No.6629020 >>6629007 >I do not have the skill to execute it do it anyway

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:48:38 2023 No.6629032
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Saw talk of idealisation and stylization, don't really do either so I tried with 3, was going to do a stronger jaw, but thought nah.
These 2 took 10 minutes each, to much if you ask me.

4 is a different self portrait that I feel is inaccurate because of the angle, they're numbered by how I feel I actually look btw.
Feels like I haven't picked up a pencil in months.

Next thread I'll post a fan art I like, put effort into that.
With less blogs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:54:08 2023 No.6629039 To all the anons who remarked they haven't seen a proper /beg/ in months, you seem have brought them out of the woodwork. Fuck you, this thread is better without the literal retard permabegs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:58:51 2023 No.6629042 >>6629039 time to accept you aren't beginner anymore

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:58:55 2023 No.6629043 File: 3.64 MB, 3508x2480, brush testing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6629039

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:29:31 2023 No.6629075

>>6629042
Do you never go on here and see art done by somebody who seems to be lacking something, for lack of a better word, fundamental? I don't mean fundamental in how it's used in art theory, I mean in terms of being a functional adult. Like any ability spacially reason, or to self reflect. Maybe this is how people who are much more talented than me view my artwork. But I can at least claim to be able to find specific issues with my artwork, which I don't think some people here can with their own work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:36:47 2023 No.6629090 Today I drew an apple from memory.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:37:18 2023 No.6629091 File: 47 KB, 704x881, apple.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6629090

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:39:10 2023 No.6629097 >>6629091 infested ass nasty ass apple

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:39:49 2023 No.6629098 >>6629097 That's exactly how they look like because I never care for my apple tree kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:40:18 2023 No.6629099 >>6629090 >>6629091 you love junk food

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:43:13 2023 No.6629101

>>6629075
Yeah anon, believe it or not that's just how a lot of people live. I mean you really are probably being too judgmental for a few of them.
I definitely understand what you mean for a few of these posts. All the info, and standards, they need is EASILY found and yet...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:47:57 2023 No.6629109 >>6629075 >>6629101 you're so completely clueless you don't understand how someone could struggle with drawing lmao. People look up books and try to apply the advice given, but they just cant draw the lines

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:54:15 2023 No.6629115 File: 116 KB, 501x890, Screenshot 2023-04-27 215244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Todays WIP, trying to clean up my line work this time.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:56:53 2023 No.6629117

>>6629109
>you don't understand how someone could struggle with drawing
Pretty much any artist can understand that anon. Do you think some artists are able to draw like professionals because they were born with it? Every person who takes art serious goes through the same struggle, admittedly some are more prepared to deal with the grind though.

I'm not agreeing with anon on the people who are posting studies and asking for advice, I'm agreeing with them on the people who post a 1 minute doodle or obviously low-beg drawing with no guideline for critique.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:59:04 2023 No.6629120 I just like to post when I can. Simple as.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:10:56 2023 No.6629129

>>6629109
I am in the exact position they are, anon. I am reading one of the commonly reccomended books, and my drawings are still thoroughly beg. My issue is with posters who come here with art they cannot or will not look at any more critically than "it looks bad".

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:13:30 2023 No.6629131 >nwp with walls of text. next thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:26:26 2023 No.6629151 >>6629131 I do post my work anon. However, I prefer to post my art seperate from arguing with people. I would prefer to recieve critique on my art for my art, rather than people using it as a stand in for my opinions.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:34:58 2023 No.6629163
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>>6628934
Same as anything else. Break it down into simplified shapes, starting by studying other artists, before trying to apply those lessons to life drawing or imagination.
I have seen people who know more than me reccomend Leyendecker, who makes his forms very apparent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:40:31 2023 No.6629166 >>6629115 The hips look at odds with each other. Her right hip to me suggests her pelvis is level, where her left suggests it's at an angle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:07:01 2023 No.6629183 File: 119 KB, 563x623, dogshit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6627316 Yeah this shit isn't happening.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:08:57 2023 No.6629184
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Well, at least I didn't do nothing tonight. Another page down and with it another chapter done. Next one is on foreshortening, which looking at bottom right, I think I could definitely use. Kept trying to fix the proportion on the arms, but the paper stopped erasing well.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:11:14 2023 No.6629186
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I don't need a critique or anything. I'm just trying to post to /beg/ once a week or so.
Saw some promo pic for an upcoming Twisted Metal movie, maybe. Tried to "box" up the figure first before drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:19:00 2023 No.6629200 >twisted metal movie Boy I sure hope they don't ruin it like they did the last mid game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:33:49 2023 No.6629211 File: 74 KB, 1419x677, meh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] World of Warcraft female human mage study I tried

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:37:20 2023 No.6629215

>>6629211
My art guide says I should draw 5 character studies a day from artists/games I like, but this one took me way too long, I don't have time for that I don't know how I can make studies look good without putting too much detail on. Maybe I chose a bad reference for a beg

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:05:15 2023 No.6629235 >>6629215 finish a construction, take it in, see if you like it so far and decide if you wanna continue it or just move on to the next one

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 05:12:31 2023 No.6629277 >>6629235 NTA but what if I don't like any of them? >Because they always looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 07:13:59 2023 No.6629371 File: 3.73 MB, 2216x3457, 9EDD8FBF-CBDF-40B2-9F4F-FF3A07B655EA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] cant wait for the semester to be over so i can draw cute anime babes

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 07:15:35 2023 No.6629374 File: 1.96 MB, 2103x1796, 30414E71-34EC-4A4B-BCA9-77844E6A385F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6629371 color is scary and hard :\|

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 08:29:08 2023 No.6629431 >>6626829 They help you see where shit goes. No need for detailed bones. And drawing the tarsal/ankle bone cluster in a detaled way is not neccesary

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 10:22:55 2023 No.6629506 NEW THREAD >>6629465 >>6629465 >>6629465

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:52:48 2023 No.6630815 File: 409 KB, 1698x894, imagem_2023-04-28_215233602.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:37:35 2023 No.6631002 >>6630815 >Queen of spades on her stocking suspenders wew

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