/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6618864]

/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate general

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6615074

[Anonymous No.6618919]

dunno if i will finish this i kinda got a lot to do atm

[Anonymous No.6618931]

i’m feeling filtered by cylinders. how do you replicate an ellipse?

[Anonymous No.6618943]

I achieved an erection and a small bit of precum after completing 3 (non-sexual) sketches in a row which were arguably my best sketches ever. Is sexual stimulation following achievement normal? Am I a coomer?

[Anonymous No.6618956]

I'm working on the preliminary exercises before the 250 box challenge and I have a strange tendency that's been vexing me. Quite often when I draw a line I have a tendency to add a "hook" at the end.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Any way to correct for this? Pic is an example

[Anonymous No.6618959]

>>6618864
> How to draw comics the Marvel way

[Anonymous No.6618961]

>>6618919
almost there anon! two more years then youll finally be out of beg

[Anonymous No.6618994]

>>6618956
>Any way to correct for this?
Just don't do it. What more is there to tell you?

[Anonymous No.6619010]

More Gondola

[Anonymous No.6619013]

>>6618956
You're probably being too rigid in your movement and grip. Be more gentle.

[Anonymous No.6619015]

>>6618959
Yeah, for now.

[Anonymous No.6619037]

>>6618956
look at the start of your line. it was doomed from the start. you noticed too late, over-corrected to the right, then over-corrected back to the left at the end. that's the reason for the hook. I would start the exercises over, and from now on do a page of the line confidence exercise daily

[Anonymous No.6619071]

>>6619015
slow down more, anon. Clean up your sketches. Watch your ellipses. Each study can take up to 20 minutes, if you're doing it right.

[Anonymous No.6619115]

>finish a page of boxes
>entire world feels askew
fuck me

[Anonymous No.6619122]

>>6619037
Thank you (and previous poster)
Some more lines.
I feel the trajectory isn't as fucked in these. Similar to the hook I feel I have a natural tendency to arc towards the end of the line.

[Anonymous No.6619123]

>>6619010
beautiful

[Anonymous No.6619131]

What is easier to draw, beautiful 3d worlds or characters?c I mainly want to concentrate on fauna and big open spaces, if anyone knows the movie Nausicaa, the shroom forests really inspire me

[Anonymous No.6619135]

>>6619071
>clean up
nta but beg resources say erasing is bad. have i been lied to?

[Anonymous No.6619150]

ASGA40 :)

[Anonymous No.6619163]

>>6619131
why does it matter when you clearly know what inspires you? get kazuo oga's books and godspeed, anon

[Anonymous No.6619165]

>>6619135
What's wrong with correcting your mistakes?

[Anonymous No.6619168]

>>6618864
>op pic
Thats literaly me rn on tge toilete

[Anonymous No.6619187]

I've been improving lately. Looking back on my older studies from like a year ago is inspiring. I do wish I was more dedicated rather than doing art, like, once every few days. We're drawing regularly now at least! Not quite sure how to get the tummy to look a little less flat however, could be just more practice.

[Anonymous No.6619196]

>>6619150
This is fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.6619217]

>>6619135
Basically no matter the stance two people on /beg/ tell you the opposite thing and neither are typically entirely wrong. As a /beg/ my line confidence and accuracy is mediocre. Using a pen or not erasing is a useful piece of advice towards getting better at it. On the opposite side, my current focus is to improve my understanding of form and breaking down objects into forms. I think it helps me to fix mistakes and analyze where I went wrong. So both doing no erasing and going back and fixing my mistakes could be helpful in different ways.

[Anonymous No.6619221]

>Do figure
>>Looks alright
>Come back next day
>>Looks like shit

Why?

[Anonymous No.6619233]

Constructing the upper body continues to elude me.
Tried egg shapes, boxes and cutoff eggs but nothing really works how I imagine it.
Can't even properly overlay any of those shapes over a random doujin page or illustration and have it actually fit.

[Anonymous No.6619237]

>>6619221
fresh eyes don't tell lies

[Anonymous No.6619238]

>>6619221
you only did figure, you need to do figures for hours and hours

[Anonymous No.6619240]

>>6619233
I had the same issue. The way I learnt it was just looking up some "simplified 3D ribcage" models and learning it that way. My brain couldn't wrap itself around any other idea.

[Anonymous No.6619243]

>>6619221
mental refresh that allows you to analyze the same work differently. it’s good to give your art a second look.

[Anonymous No.6619247]

Constructoids arise

[Anonymous No.6619252]

>>6619233
On this topic, does it really matter what shape I used to represent anything as long as it's useful to me?

[Anonymous No.6619253]

>>6619247

[Anonymous No.6619255]

>>6619253

[Anonymous No.6619258]

>>6619240
That seems like a good idea actually thanks.
Maybe just playing around a bit with a 3d model of the human body will make my retard brain comprehend that stuff.

[Anonymous No.6619259]

>>6619252
Nope, doesn't matter at all, as long as it makes sense to you. If it's a octagon that you somehow fanagle into becoming a proper torso, then you do you. Finding your own solutions to issues is part of art; you don't have to use a method other people are using.

[Anonymous No.6619265]

>>6619258
It worked for me because it's clear to see it and define it in 3D space, whereas something like and egg or circle is a bit harder to do. Plus, it's anatomically correct, so it'll work no matter the subject. As long as they're human!

[Anonymous No.6619275]

>>6618499
Croquis Cafe.

>>6618842
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6619285]

>>6619233
Well, why don't you reverse it? Take a doujin page or illustration, lower opacity and trace the shape/form that makes sense to you, then you practice with it.
>>6619252
As long as it is simple and you can turn it around in space at ease, yeah, anything goes.

[Anonymous No.6619319]

>>6619285
>Well, why don't you reverse it?
Because I'm an idiot and never even thought of that.
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6619329]

>>6619221
the opposite thing happens to me

[Anonymous No.6619333]

>>6619253
>>6619253
>>6619255
this isnt beg or int what are you doing here anon sama

[Anonymous No.6619355]

>>6619122
>I feel I have a natural tendency to arc towards the end of the line
That's common and likely indicates too much wrist or elbow movement. Keep practicing bro

[Anonymous No.6619372]

>>6619255
Square Anon! Now you can go animate for Spongebob Squarepants, congratulations.

[Anonymous No.6619385]

>>6619122
You know anon, have you heard about "Rendering in Pen and Ink" by Arthur Guptill? It is a book that have like, hundreds of exercises about line, and some go about fixing bad habits that we have.

[Anonymous No.6619414]

[Anonymous No.6619425]

>>6619414
Nice work.

She feels a little stiff though.

[Anonymous No.6619435]

[Anonymous No.6619518]

>>6618864
https://youtu.be/RRUL2dDzMic

[Anonymous No.6619524]

>>6619518
your work is great
what books/courses did you use to study? do you have any finished pieces?

[Anonymous No.6619550]

Hello beg, i didnt draw for 4 days, its over.

>>6619518
some of these feel very stiff to me, but your ability to put down line mogs me so hard i will withdraw that statement and just say good job
>>6619414
that shade on her ass is inconsistent, like one cheek has shadow and other doesnt? Same for her haircut. cute thot otherwise
>>6619333
lmao >>6618275
>>6619255
i kneel
>>6619221
half of beg books advises you to take a walk around atelier and then look at your drawing from unusual angle so you dont have to wait whole day for self-feedback and start fixing it right away
>>6619115
>didnt pyw his boxes
>>6619010
art
>>6618956
draw a box is meme designed to weed out competition by making begs quit drawing. you have been warned. Also drawing straight lines is hard. Like you have to practice that
>>6618931
I haven't encountered harder shape to draw than ellipse. Dont underestimate it. Anyway ellipses are just circles in perspective so first step involves properly drawing cube in perspective and then squeezing ellipse inside
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n137

[Anonymous No.6619560]

Todays work

[Anonymous No.6619567]

I can’t draw hands to save my life. I feel like it’s too late for me. I’m 30 and just now trying to draw something other than cartoony expressions. I feel like I’ll never get there

[Anonymous No.6619569]

>>6619567

[Anonymous No.6619599]

>>6619569
>>6619567
Your hands look fine anon?

[Anonymous No.6619602]

Did this in 45 minutes which is remarkably better than my fist "complete" figure which took nearly 3 hours.

[Anonymous No.6619606]

>>6619355
I notice the drawabox guy seems to draw at a right, diagonal angle which engages his elbow only somewhat. I've been doing a left, diagonal angle to better see the dots but it engages my elbow joint more because I have to use my whole arm in extension.
>>6619385
Thanks for the rec, just downloaded it

[Anonymous No.6619608]

>constructing face
>get to eyes
>put pen to page
>sweat condenses on my brow
>whole arm trembles and quivers
>thoughts of symbol drawing flood my mind
>give up and take a break

[Anonymous No.6619636]

>>6619602
The bobs

[Anonymous No.6619641]

>>6619636
Yeah I don't know anything about boobs.

[Anonymous No.6619642]

>>6619435
whats this

[Anonymous No.6619643]

>>6619642
A seahorse, anon.

[Anonymous No.6619646]

>>6619642
Damn, is it that bad? I thought it was decent at least

[Anonymous No.6619652]

>>6619608
>semi circle
wa la

[Anonymous No.6619657]

>>6619641
try having some

[Anonymous No.6619659]

>>6619657
Give me yours.

[Anonymous No.6619675]

what do you listen to while drawing I need something to do while drawing

[Anonymous No.6619676]

>>6619675
REO Speedwagon

[Anonymous No.6619677]

Been trying to mainly focus on my observation skills lately because despite the fact I know a decent amount about construction, I can't draw accurately very well. Been going Keys to Drawing and I'm about to finish the first chapter


What advice do you guys have for me?

[Anonymous No.6619680]

today's practice
I got hard filtered by the arm's foreshortening in one of the figures
>>6619675
ace combat ost

[Anonymous No.6619681]

>>6619675
I don’t know why I always go back to this, but I listen to Figazi’s instrumental album they did for the doc about them. I also use this album to read books

[Anonymous No.6619682]

>>6619680
Where are you actual drawings?

[Anonymous No.6619684]

>>6619681
*Fugazi

[Anonymous No.6619686]

>>6619675
I use the discover weekly playlist on spotify. Over the past 5 years of using it I have accumulated 755 songs into my liked list. The variety is so large that it would take multiple days of nonstop playing before I went through it all. It's extremely autistic and tedious but very worth it.

[Anonymous No.6619688]

>>6619682
Oh look, it's this fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.6619689]

>>6619682
the figures were created by myself and the hands are referenced if that's what you mean

[Anonymous No.6619690]

>>6619689
I'm not buying it, who's the artist you copied off from?

[Anonymous No.6619691]

>>6619690
I feel flattered

[Anonymous No.6619692]

>>6619689
Ignore the crab faggot. You're one of the few actual decent artists left on /ic/, just keep doing your thing.

[Anonymous No.6619693]

>>6619691
You really shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.6619694]

>>6619680
How long have you been drawing anon and what's your routine (e.g. 2 hours per day)? Love it when you post.

[Anonymous No.6619695]

Been trying to mainly focus on my observation skills lately because despite the fact I know a decent amount about construction, I can't draw accurately very well. Been going Keys to Drawing and I'm about to finish the first chapter


What advice do you guys have for me?

[Anonymous No.6619696]

>>6619680
>>6619682
>>6619689
>making begtards seethe just by posting
kek!

[Anonymous No.6619697]

>>6619675
post rock

[Anonymous No.6619698]

>>6619675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8_3cbDa3s

This on loop.

[Anonymous No.6619701]

>>6619697
Good choice. Ever listen to any math rock?

[Anonymous No.6619703]

>Resident fanboys start crawling out from the woodwork after asking a simple question
Every. Fucking. Time. Why is nearly every general thread like this?

[Anonymous No.6619706]

>>6619703
pyw

[Anonymous No.6619708]

>>6618864

[Anonymous No.6619710]

>>6619708
i need help with this. i dont paint that much at all

[Anonymous No.6619715]

>retarded esl mad when called out on his bait
I guarantee this little faggot doesn't draw.

[Anonymous No.6619716]

>>6619708
reminds me of this game

[Anonymous No.6619719]

>>6619694
when I was a kid I used to draw a little bit, but started in a serious way in late 2018 and I switched to digital in 2019 when I bought a 40 euros tablet that I use until today
I usually draw about 2 hours a day and more during the weekend but I don't draw every day tho
I read a lot about anatomy which is what I like the most, currently reading Stonehouse and by far it has become my favorite anatomy book

pic rel is a drawing of mine from 2019 that I just found lel

[Anonymous No.6619720]

>>6619701
Never got too deep into it but I like it.
Most of the fusion genres I listen to are kinda mathy usually anyway.

[Anonymous No.6619725]

>>6619719
Did you just focus on copying anime or did you do traditional?

[Anonymous No.6619727]

>>6619725
He clearly copied.

[Anonymous No.6619728]

>>6619720
Mah nigga

[Anonymous No.6619733]

>>6619727
go away retard kun

[Anonymous No.6619736]

>>6619727
If anything he's blatantly fishing for /beg/tard praise and isn't here for advice. Who cares if he's "copying" when that isn't even the annoyance

[Anonymous No.6619737]

>>6619725
I did a lot of studies of the manga artists I like, in the beginning I only made copies but later I managed to make some figures from imagination, after that it became easier to do random doodles in my free time
I also did studies from anatomy books

if you really want to know what I started to do that helped me a lot was the following
find 1-3 artists that you like and with a lot of work on the internet
download PureRef
save many images of figures by these artists from different angles and group them together, eg figures in profile, top view, front view, etc.
preferably for manga pages as they are not rendered and are just lines
now make your own figures, YOU WILL GET STUCK, check the reference and complete the figure do this for months and even years and you will need less and less of the references

pic rel is kinda old but that's what I used to do and most of it was my own stuff but some I had to check my references on PureRef because I got stuck and didn't know how to finish the figure.

>>6619736
op says intermediate too

[Anonymous No.6619741]

>>6619737
>studies
Stop copying anime.

[Anonymous No.6619743]

>>6618919


Is this from ref? You did well, the guy’s legs need some correcting, they seem thick.

[Anonymous No.6619779]

>>6619697
NTA but here

[Anonymous No.6619783]

>>6619737
Great advice. Anons should screenshot this

[Anonymous No.6619789]

is copying good for u

[Anonymous No.6619797]

>>6619737
>>6619783
samefag

[Anonymous No.6619799]

>>6619797
envious beg

[Anonymous No.6619833]

>>6619789
yep better then doin nothin like a nigger

built for bwc??

[Anonymous No.6619837]

>downloading 9 gb course
>15 hour eta
>computer goes to sleep and download fails

[Anonymous No.6619841]

>>6619737
I remembered you. Keep on trucking and ignore the hater.

[Anonymous No.6619923]

>>6619010
Best poster atm.
thanks for sharing!

[Anonymous No.6619975]

[Anonymous No.6619981]

>>6619975
needs bigger tits

[Anonymous No.6619982]

>>6619737
Awesome advice, thank you.

[Anonymous No.6619986]

love norling
love loomis
love vilppu
simple as

[Anonymous No.6619999]

What screams beginner here?

[Anonymous No.6620000]

>>6618864
Any general canvas size advice for digital art and webposting?
I tend to draw random custom sizes around 2000x2000 depending if the piece is more portrait or landscape, but certain uploads look very pixelated on thumbnails/zoomed out. I'm not sure if there's ideal canvas sizes to work on.

[Anonymous No.6620002]

Holy shit, out of the package the clip studio blending tools are a lot nicer than the mixer brush photoshop has.
I wonder why people are saying photoshop is better for painting?

[Anonymous No.6620016]

How do you into croquis/quicksketch? I feel so completely fucked while doing it. I'll put down a mark and instantly be able to tell it's fucked("that's not the angle I wanted, that's too long, that's too short, that's misplaced, that's not in proportion, that's too lifeless, that doesn't make sense," etc) but since you have to be quick I have no time to correct anything so the entire thing ends up completely fucked. I've tried Vilppu but I can't seem to get much out of him. Are there any guides or anything on how to do this shit?

[Anonymous No.6620021]

>>6619999
>That quads
I saw passion frend. Good job
>>6619975
high /int/

[Anonymous No.6620022]

>>6619737
where you got this basic construction from?

[Anonymous No.6620026]

>>6620021
Thamks

[Anonymous No.6620027]

>>6619999
TOO MUCH OF THE SAME SHAPE FREN

[Anonymous No.6620031]

>>6620027
Please explain?

[Anonymous No.6620034]

>>6618864
head sketches, been busy this week. haven't drawn much unfortunately

[Anonymous No.6620038]

>>6620034
Weak chins mate.

[Anonymous No.6620085]

Is the important part of construction just angles and establishing perspective? I'm literally just learning this after going through two construction books because it was never stated explicitly.

[Anonymous No.6620101]

>>6619837
>170 kB/s
What the fuck
What year is this

[Anonymous No.6620104]

>>6620101
He's probably Australian.

>t. Australian

[Anonymous No.6620133]

>>6620031
design of lines too repetitive brotha

[Anonymous No.6620134]

I am someone who returns to drawing after being away for 10 years. What is a good not fully cheap but not a hugely expensive professional drawing tablet? I don't know any of the makers and dont know which ones are good and which ones are trap

[Anonymous No.6620138]

>>6620134
>https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Digital-Graphic-Drawing-PTH660/dp/B01MQU5LW7/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=wacom%2Bintuos%2Bpro%2Bmedium&qid=1682170111&sprefix=wacom%2Bintos%2B%2Caps%2C420&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVzMzNDlXWkQ5WkdFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDQ1MTIzWlU0OTJHSFRKT1ZYJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxMjQzMDAzSzZCMDhLMVVGQVk2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

[Anonymous No.6620165]

did a quick study trying to understand asian features more

[Anonymous No.6620179]

>>6619675
City Beautiful videos

[Anonymous No.6620180]

>>6620165
what did you learn

[Anonymous No.6620181]

First attempt with charcoal pencil. Added detail but I don't think I'm going to add value.

[Anonymous No.6620184]

>>6620165
Nooooo my waifu give her back you waifu kidnapper!!!

[Anonymous No.6620218]

>>6620180
monolids are weird, but they still kinda follow the same idea as other eyelids.
the keystone area is kinda interesting with how soft it is
and the general face shape is kinda more squished vertically than I was expecting

[Anonymous No.6620232]

>>6620138
>screenless
trap

[Anonymous No.6620238]

Feedback? Is this drawing fucked?

[Anonymous No.6620249]

what do you think

[Anonymous No.6620257]

done to the tune of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Ay74LfKd4

[Anonymous No.6620263]

>>6620249

really good anon

[Anonymous No.6620293]

[Anonymous No.6620299]

>>6620238
Torso (is she leaning over?) and feet(a bit sparse on detail). Legs are good, bow is good, hands are decent. Face could also use a little work (i think it's the eye-brows over the hairline).

[Anonymous No.6620316]

>>6620263
Make her taller, her vertical proportions are that of a dwarf

[Anonymous No.6620320]

>>6620238
>8000x8000
this image literally made my kuroba crash when it tried to prefetch

[Anonymous No.6620338]

>>6619435
don't listen to that retard I could tell it was a seahorse by the thumbnail. it's good anon

[Anonymous No.6620347]

>>6619233
try these oval shapes then remove the intersected lines leaving the bean shape

[Anonymous No.6620349]

>>6620347
dogshit quality my bad i fucked that screenshot up

[Anonymous No.6620354]

>>6619680
Blog?

>>6619435
Lovely. Has an old-timey look to it

[Anonymous No.6620358]

>>6620181

[Anonymous No.6620362]

Arm feel too long but it might just be because the hand is fucked up.

[Anonymous No.6620368]

>>6619524
Thanks. I recommend "Brent Eviston - Volume & Structure."
https://lukecote.artstation.com/

[Anonymous No.6620369]

>>6619187

[Anonymous No.6620370]

>>6619675
apple classical music app

[Anonymous No.6620382]

>>6620002
Photoshop is what people are comfortable with, it's the default. The blending tools in Photoshop are terrible because the code for them has been the same for decades. They will never fix this, because people using PS for art are a tiny minority of users.

[Anonymous No.6620386]

>>6620016
Whatever amount of time you are using, double it at first - give yourself time to slow down and really look at the model. For extremely short drawings, don't try to capture every detail - start with a complete gesture and then add whatever you can. Quick sketch is a crushingly hard discipline - it's valuable but you should do it alongside your other practice because it will absolutely take years to get good.

[Anonymous No.6620399]

>>6620362
I like that you're trying, and it's an improvent from the op image. Remember to pay attention to "thicknesses" of forms, along with the length, when thinking about proportions.

[Anonymous No.6620400]

>>6620257
美しい、名無しさまね。。。

[Anonymous No.6620402]

>>6620369
I mean left is good enough to convey depth and perspective

[Anonymous No.6620409]

imagination sketch

[Anonymous No.6620422]

>>6620402
"Good enough" is subjective. If all you're trying to show is "This is a person, and we understand that a person has depth" you're absolutely right - in the same way a symbol drawing is sufficient to show "this is a face, and we understand that a face has eyes". If you want to show "this form has this specific depth, and this specific relationship to the forms around it" that's different.

[Anonymous No.6620443]

>>6620409
Josiecels...

[Anonymous No.6620446]

I'm trying to find a study resource that I tried years ago, but can't seem to find it. You would draw a cross, and then meticulously copy different body parts. I think they were called "baroque studies" or something, but I've been unable to find anything.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.6620448]

>>6620446
Bargue plates

[Anonymous No.6620462]

>>6619737
Finally, some good advice.

[Anonymous No.6620464]

How did you manage to make drawing/painting into a routine or habit? I do it sporadically, but I'd like to be more consistent with it rather than just spend my time on youtube or on a Cantonese rice paddy forum.

[Anonymous No.6620465]

>>6620316

idk how to do that anon honestly here is my original; sketch

[Anonymous No.6620479]

>>6620400

ありがとう : )

[Anonymous No.6620481]

Todays WIP

[Anonymous No.6620491]

>>6620232
>cheap
>not hugely expensive
Reading is hard hugh? screenless are much cheaper than normsl.
The Ctr+Paint guy also pro screenless. He said it on his first 2 videos.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library

Begtards like you always love to voice your shitty opinions.

[Anonymous No.6620493]

>>6620464
You become the type of person that does it every day. Try (and fail) to do it every day for 60 days or so straight, and make changes in your life until you can meet that goal. Drawing is a merciless discipline - a person who is going to succeed is one who accepts that it will be a tremendous component of their life going forward. It will not be picked up and put down, it won't wait for you while you're gaming, it doesn't care that you have a job. If you don't want it bad enough to sacrifice for it you're not going to get it, it's just too hard. My number 1 recommendation is to carry a sketchbook literally everywhere you go. You are never "waiting" at the doctors', the restaurant, the airport - you're drawing. You should be finishing sketchbooks, every page, and putting them on a bookshelf more than once per year in addition to your other practice.

[Anonymous No.6620497]

>>6620491
you can get a kamvas 12 with bigger drawing area and a screen for much cheaper than that

[Anonymous No.6620500]

>>6619737
start drawing whole bodies because drawing torsos is a trap in the long term, I say it because it is easy to make torsos but then placing legs is complicated when you are beg, try to draw whole figures standing, lying down, squatting, sitting, etc. .

[Anonymous No.6620508]

>>6620497
>Kamvas pro 1200$
>Wacom 300$
huh?
FZD school guy on youtube also pro screenless. He said it on his sketching 101, just draw and intro to digital painting.

[Anonymous No.6620525]

>>66204
I browsed the stores a little more and you are right about the 250 buck Kamvas tablet, but I personally choose the Jap Wacom over the Chink Huion Kamvas.

[Anonymous No.6620528]

>>6619680
>>6619694
>>6619719
>>6619725
>>6619737
Screencapped. It's just TOO GOOD advice to not do it and share it.

Thank you very much to everyone involved.

[Anonymous No.6620530]

More practice with the hampton book. Planning to do 15 of these gesture + masses + landmarks and then move to the next chapter (heads).

[Anonymous No.6620532]

>>6620530
gesture layer

[Anonymous No.6620533]

>>6620508
kamvas 12/pro 12 costs $250 AT MOST

[Anonymous No.6620534]

>>6620532
landmarks

[Anonymous No.6620541]

>>6620528
And here's a SFW version for the blue boards.

Everyone interested in learning to draw in anime style should see this.

[Anonymous No.6620546]

1girl, highly detailed anime style

[Anonymous No.6620564]

where I'm at so far, any crits?

[Anonymous No.6620565]

>>6620528
Based as fuck. Thanks anon. saved

[Anonymous No.6620572]

erm. copy artist you like and asg exist since forever. what so useful or important he said I don't get it

[Anonymous No.6620574]

The lines..the boxes...boxes...marc brunet... krenz... fzdschool... my brain is pulsating with knowledge

[Anonymous No.6620590]

>>6619737
Based, did you always use head construction methods or did you just copy and eye it?

[Anonymous No.6620594]

>>6620574
mr drawabox told me not to use vanishing points on the page sorry

[Anonymous No.6620597]

>>6620594
but why

[Anonymous No.6620612]

>>6620597
to get a more intuitive sense for them especially when they're off the page i think

[Anonymous No.6620653]

>>6620133
What about this? Lol

[Anonymous No.6620691]

Any criticism is appreciated.

Medium = airbrush

[Anonymous No.6620697]

>>6620653
>>6619999
Do you have a reference for these you could show us? Your terrain lacks depth. It just looks like blocks of scribbles. The cast shadows you draw will get smaller as the scene approaches the horizon line. A large change in depth means a larger change in cast shadow size. The cast shadow shapes should also change more dramatically based on the terrain. Otherwise it all looks like the same mush. Go watch Alphonso Dunn on youtube, he does basic pen landscapes really well.

[Anonymous No.6620701]

>>6620691
Based 80's back of black jacket trash art. That's fucking perfect anon. Nailed it.

[Anonymous No.6620708]

>>6620701
Thanks anon, punk/graffiti is the best to make

[Anonymous No.6620711]

It's his birthday today, so i thought i'd give it a go

[Anonymous No.6620712]

I drew a friends OC.

[Anonymous No.6620726]

>>6620572
Seems like samefag or retard , usually both for these types.

[Anonymous No.6620735]

[Anonymous No.6620736]

birp

[Anonymous No.6620740]

>>6620712
it could be refined a little more and the bright white in the background is distracting but this is in the top 5 works ive seen here in the last few years, good job dude

[Anonymous No.6620751]

>>6620564
The foreshortening on the hand near the camera feels excessive, the breasts are unnatural, and your line confidence could use a lot of work. Overall not bad, but that's what I would touch up on.

[Anonymous No.6620753]

>>6620362

>>6620399
Thank you for the advice anon. Might try a few mannequins with cross sections marked tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6620754]

>>6620711
The only thing I don't like is the teeth

[Anonymous No.6620765]

>>6620740
thanks bro, yeah the background is just something i threw together in a minute, didn't know what to do and wanted to keep it simple

[Anonymous No.6620769]

>>6620711
I liked his work as the joker

[Anonymous No.6620777]

>>6620751
the hand on the right is gonna be a robot arm, but yeah I agree

[Anonymous No.6620787]

>>6620528
>screencapping basic ass advice by some anime nigga
lol

[Anonymous No.6620794]

>>6620528
kek this has to be a samefag. He used to do it with his shitty "bweh" file names too. Back to /asg/ please

[Anonymous No.6620806]

>>6620787
>>6620794
samefag

[Anonymous No.6620814]

Any recommended artists to copy for better economy of line?

[Anonymous No.6620818]

gesture warmups

[Anonymous No.6620825]

>>6620712
i like the hand gesture

[Anonymous No.6620837]

Is using a bean to draw the upper body going to fuck me over later?
I can't seem to draw the upper body properly by using two boxes or ovals instead, but I figure later on not having practiced doing so will be an issue.

[Anonymous No.6620858]

>>6620837
no, it's not. If you keep practicing figure drawing (drawing from observation) your figure shape will only continually improve

[Anonymous No.6620868]

>>6619975

you draw the legs bent back girl like i do lol except i normally make her an angel

[Anonymous No.6620869]

here are some morpho copies

[Anonymous No.6620878]

>>6620868

kinda like this one i did lol

[Anonymous No.6620883]

>>6620837
You will end up using your own custom shapes, when you feel confidence in your knowledge/muscle memory, after the initial grinding phase. The problem will be when you try to put those shapes in perspective to build a composition, it will look wrong. Even if the figure you made looks awesome as a stand alone. It happens, you'll have to go back a little and adapt those shapes to the box system, and voilá suddenly the figure works and looks solid inside the composition.
You'll get there, the important thing is to know those tools are there when you need them. Just keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.6620888]

>>6620878

always angel girls

[Anonymous No.6620891]

but in the end dont give up[

trust your instincts!

[Anonymous No.6620916]

>makes sure you exaggerate in the gesture phase, you don't want your drawing becoming too stiff
>>Drawing just becomes disproportionate because the gesture is exaggerated

How am I supposed to fix this?

[Anonymous No.6620919]

>>6620916
Why are exaggerated drawings disproportionate? You need to ask yourself if there's really a connection there. To keep your proportions, just look for where you're off, then correct it. No one gets it completely right in one try. Erase where you're wrong, then draw it again.

[Anonymous No.6620921]

>>6620891
OMG this is awesome! Source, any info about it?

[Anonymous No.6620934]

>>6620916
I feel your pain. I fucking hate gesture so much it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.6620969]

how many boxes before i can draw this

[Anonymous No.6620973]

>>6620916
1. Have a basic set of ideal proportions you understand on a rock solid level. 8 heads, crotch at the center, elbows meet the bottom of the ribs, wrists meet the crotch line, bottom of the knees halfway down the legs etc. Learn it, draw with it, know it like the back of your hand. The Loomis one is fine it's just a template.
2. Draw from photos, so when you exaggerate the pose you still have a rough idea of where everything is supposed to be. After a while you learn what you can push and pull in terms of proportions while still being convincing.
3. Understand that exaggerating the pose doesn't necessarily mean the proportions change, you're just pushing the existing proportions further than the model did.

[Anonymous No.6620974]

>>6620973
*existing pose

[Anonymous No.6620975]

>>6620806
seethe harder

[Anonymous No.6620977]

stupid question, did they use layers here?

[Anonymous No.6620980]

Laugh at me. Bottom centre and bottom right are supposed to be asian. The rest were pencil or charcoal drawings, which were a bit easier.
Have to note that construction works better for photos of real people. Artistic drawings are harder structure, but easirer to copy.

[Anonymous No.6621001]

>>6620980
these are beautiful, anon. Love the top right sketch the most

[Anonymous No.6621002]

>>6620980
sandbagging

[Anonymous No.6621010]

>>6621001
Thanks, but beauty is due to a beautiful original. I dislike pinterest for not having sources for the original authors.
>>6621002
It's hard to judge it yourself. Anything short of original quality naturally looks much worse.

[Anonymous No.6621020]

>>6620022
it's mostly boxes and cylinders
check this dude's channel, it can help you make croquis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJWjclAVnI
>>6620590
it depends on the angle but I usually use a box for the head, sometimes I start with a circle with a cross if it's an angle close to profile

[Anonymous No.6621045]

idk im really sleepy so here's this thing

[Anonymous No.6621052]

>>6620969
A few more chudbro...a few more..

[Anonymous No.6621059]

Gesture drawing can be thereputic

[Anonymous No.6621062]

>>6621059
not gesture

[Anonymous No.6621065]

>>6621062
You're a dumb monkey

[Anonymous No.6621066]

Hello beg. I think i have irrational fear of solid hard round brush aka "digital ink". I am afraid i will have to power through so my hand doesnt shake and such. Feels beg beg. Beg.

>>6620980
if you want to draw asians you have to go full racism power and draw their eyes as tiny slits. No other way around it.
>>6620977
nobody can know for sure unless somebody will find the original author and their timelapse or ask them directly. using layers is just one of many digital tools, they arent mandatory for anything
>>6620916
the job of drawer is to balance the reality and appeal. think less and draw more i would say
>>6620891
saved + i kneel
>>6620888
very cool
>>6620712
damn, this gotta be art! i kneel
>>6620691
it is kinda flat. but it is still badass
>>6620464
you either want something (and then you obviously do it), or you are little bitch who says A but ends up doing B. Simple
>>6620249
interesting face style
>>6620000
decide in what resolution you want to post on web, then work in double of that. before exporting downscale it
>>6619999
no different values whatsoever, everything is lit evenly. Look at my plane, its the extreme but you get the idea
>>6619837
most art books are 20MB big. Books FTW
>>6621045
>chubby demon
he needs to go on diet

[Anonymous No.6621073]

>>6621065
its not gesture

[Anonymous No.6621084]

>>6620858
>>6620883
Ok thanks
Guess I'll get busy then drawing a couple thousand figures

[Anonymous No.6621087]

Can I get some crit?

[Anonymous No.6621088]

>>6620891
SOVL

[Anonymous No.6621090]

i literally have no idea how I would even go about finishing this. I can't escape the sketching prison, why am I so incompetent.

[Anonymous No.6621096]

>>6621090
anon all you have to do is draw the BOXES and the CYLINDERS and then COPY and draw and COPY and draw and COPY and draw hundreds of times

[Anonymous No.6621106]

How are you supposed to attach the legs to the pelvis?

[Anonymous No.6621117]

>>6621096
this might help with anatomy fundies, but not with finishing things

[Anonymous No.6621123]

>>6621096
how do i construct an ellipse?

[Anonymous No.6621127]

>>6621087
>Can I get some crit?
On what? You haven't done anything that warrants critique. You seem to be on the right track, so carry on ig
>>6621090
How about trying to duplicate somebody else's work? That way, the roadmap is laid out in front of you in a way

[Anonymous No.6621130]

>>6621123
draw a circle then use the liquify tool to compress it. On paper cut a piece of paper from the middle of the circle and move the 2 lines together to create an elipse, try it it's easy!

[Anonymous No.6621161]

>>6621106
Complicated - but if you imagine the pelvis as an "underwear" shape it's easier. Some of the muscles connect all the way up at the waistband (TFL, glutes, sartorius), some just above the legholes (middle quad), some around the inner part of the legholes (adductors). Really being able to depict this connection well does mean you have to know some anatomy but for quick-and-dirty they attach at a diagonal angle about where the "legholes" of underwear are. Once you're comfortable with basic figure drawing you're going to want to spend a lot of time here because it critically affects your ability to draw attractive, non-weird figures, and the pelvis is extremely motile - it's tilt forwards and backwards tremendously effects the shape of the thighs and the belly.

[Anonymous No.6621168]

How do I tell when I'm struggling with something because I'm close to unlocking the forbidden knowledge within vs when my fundies just suck too much to even be able to comprehend it?

[Anonymous No.6621169]

>>6621130
I hope this is a meme post

here are my faces for today I'm getting better by the day, it really is just drawing over and over and over again. I should ad bodies though or my future anime girls will look like a roided up dude that skipped on leg day

[Anonymous No.6621178]

>>6620868
no way, sincerely i prefer that version to mine, simply it's angelical

[Anonymous No.6621229]

First acrylic painting I've done. I know it's kinda shitty but i just need to keep practicing

[Anonymous No.6621233]

>>6621229
cute

[Anonymous No.6621237]

[Anonymous No.6621285]

some days i don’t draw for myself but to keep myself drawing daily i’ll draw a few exercises out of a book (for example redrawing some morpho forms)

is this fine to do? i feel like since i’m not “applying” it to anything it might be kinda counterintuitive…

[Anonymous No.6621303]

>>6620921

its something i made in 2020 !
kinda of a mixture of kabbalah + art attributes + quotes i like

[Anonymous No.6621314]

How is it looking?
I was really unsure on the 1-knee pose for the soldier but I think it's fine now.
Anyway enjoy it, I'm liking this

[Anonymous No.6621317]

>>6621314
I think the initial sketch was far more aggressive, with her >:D eyes and the soldier with more imposing shoulders and a cape, but I'm liking how it turned out now that I had to actually draw the details.
More of a whimsical feel now

[Anonymous No.6621326]

>>6621317
the aggressive qualities look much better for the soldier in the back imo, also the way you've posed him in the new sketch looks like he's off balance

[Anonymous No.6621357]

>>6621326
Thanks for the input, I think I managed to make it closer to the sketch now. Maybe if I add these lines I can motivate myself to animate even if just a little, the cape or her running lmao

At any rate, time to color

[Anonymous No.6621360]

i drew frog

[Anonymous No.6621410]

>>6620891
this is really fucking cool, bravo

[Anonymous No.6621412]

>>6621066
lines on the plane seem a bit rushed, and other lines on the boxes and forms seem like you took a little too long. don't be afraid to rotate canvas, zoom, etc. check out drawbox's lessons on line quality

[Anonymous No.6621436]

>>6621059
Nice gestures

[Anonymous No.6621461]

>>6621317
I'll parrot what the other anon said and say the soldier looks like he's going to fall over.

[Anonymous No.6621470]

>>6619680
>>6619719
>>6619737
based art and advice
today im gonna practice like you, and im gonna listen to the ace combat ost while i do it

[Anonymous No.6621479]

Would you fuck this cat?

[Anonymous No.6621493]

>>6621479
No wtf
The cat fucks though

[Anonymous No.6621511]

>>6621123
>place two push pins into the focal points of the ellipse you want to construct
>take a string the length of your ellipse's major axis, and tie the ends to the pins
>pull the string taut with a pencil, and use it as you would a compass
Alternatively, you can simply intersect a cone with your paper.
In digital, use the ellipse tool.

[Anonymous No.6621512]

>>6621479
If I was a cat, yes.

[Anonymous No.6621520]

>>6620697
Yes I have the Reference for the second one. The second one was a sketch and I developer It a bit more.

[Anonymous No.6621521]

>>6620697

[Anonymous No.6621524]

>>6621090
I feel he should be leaned more over, it would make him less stiff, like really put his whole weight onto his left elbow and right leg.

[Anonymous No.6621531]

Back to Bridgman for a second. I think I see where I went wrong, in that the ribcage should be further down and out in front of the hips more. The exaggerated poses still fuck me up.

[Anonymous No.6621540]

>>6621521
>>6621520
Try grouping up similar values and give them similar shades throughout. Here are a few shapes I see, I'd make both the '1' areas a shadow, and the '2' area a midtone. Right now most the page feels like varying degrees of highlight.
Really love your style btw.

[Anonymous No.6621544]

figure warmup

>>6621479
top left one looks cute

[Anonymous No.6621549]

What's the best book when it comes to figure drawing in perspective?

[Anonymous No.6621562]

>>6621544
very nice

[Anonymous No.6621564]

>>6621549
Sketchbook

[Anonymous No.6621570]

>>6620465
hnng

[Anonymous No.6621590]

>>6621161
Thanks for the detailed answer
Already saw people recommend a sort of underwear shape for the pelvis but nobody ever explained where to go from there as well as you

[Anonymous No.6621606]

>>6619608
Draw what you see. Its not difficult once you get your observational skills down. Eventually you get to the point of: Anything you see, you can draw. But only once you get far enough with the skill.

[Anonymous No.6621615]

>>6621531

[Anonymous No.6621620]

>>6621615

[Anonymous No.6621631]

>>6621544
Did some longer figures. Really need to work on my heads and hands.

>>6621562
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.6621640]

Crit?

[Anonymous No.6621663]

could I get feedback on this? composition, pose, anatomy, anything

[Anonymous No.6621667]

>>6621663
What the fuck am I looking at?

[Anonymous No.6621670]

>>6621667
kancolle boat

[Anonymous No.6621676]

>>6621670
Ah I get it now, im not good enough to crit you though

[Anonymous No.6621687]

[Anonymous No.6621751]

>>6619680
>ace combat ost
based

[Anonymous No.6621776]

taking inspiration from aruurara and studying while drawing what i like, aka cute boys and big titty oneesans

[Anonymous No.6621782]

guys how do I know what I want to draw? I know it's probably a stupid question, but I like anime, but I also like stuff like pic related. On top of that I like enviroments. Now there is the question what to learn first? Or can you maybe mix all of that together?

[Anonymous No.6621785]

[Anonymous No.6621793]

>>6621640
Study clothing folds and boots.

[Anonymous No.6621798]

[Anonymous No.6621808]

>>6621785
Why do most of them look like they are from the habsburg family

[Anonymous No.6621823]

>>6620528
he didnt improve much

[Anonymous No.6621826]

[Anonymous No.6621852]

>>6619560
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I LOVE PHOS

[Anonymous No.6621866]

>>6621798
based marvel enjoyer

[Anonymous No.6621879]

>>6621544
Gesture and movement on point. Impressive, very nice.

[Anonymous No.6621900]

>>6620888
бoжecтвeннo

[Anonymous No.6621916]

DAILY REMINDER TO JUST DRAW!
Studying fundamentals, books, or whatever the fuck without drawing is like knowing everything about basketball but never touching a ball yourself, and when you do, you will suck balls.

https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU

[Anonymous No.6621960]

>>6621900

thanks i didnt catch that lol

russian is technically my first language but im still shit with writing it

[Anonymous No.6621976]

>>6621916
>hour long podcast
No thank you anon

[Anonymous No.6622048]

>>6621866
I just want to get back to Bridgman.

[Anonymous No.6622053]

>>6621808
Idk

[Anonymous No.6622060]

NEW THREAD
>>6622058
>>6622058
>>6622058

[Anonymous No.6622362]

>>6619150
This hits after I got off from a Front Mission 1st playthrough

[Anonymous No.6622444]

>>6621540
Thank you. In a way, scribblibg helps me block out the most important shapes and Shadows, but when It comes ti details then im quite unsure on the correct lining or Just fucking It up and losig the overall composition/impression. I do Need texture exercising

[Anonymous No.6624283]

[Anonymous No.6624727]

This is the original I tried to redraw this in a slightly different pose (and a bigger butt will post later when I get home . Didn't like it at first now im starting to Kindoff like it. Looking for any tips on what i did wrong. How to fix ecc. Ecc.
I know it is a sketchy messy drawing