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6615571 No.6615571 [Reply] [Original]

AI art NEEDS to be BANNED even the so called "ethical" AI which can still create near 1:1 copies YOUR OWN WORK! Even besides that there needs to be a limit what going to be automated! People are going to lose jobs and income becuase of AI art and that alone should be enough to BAN IT!
200% BAN! Mean even using it as a reference should get you permabanned and blacklisted on /ic/ and other art communities. Same goes for even posting AI that's photobashed onto other work. The algos need to auto detect it 200% of the time!

>> No.6615578

>>6615571
Pyw I am convinced people who care about ai are bad artists.

>> No.6615585

>>6615571
Is this 4d chess AI thread?

>> No.6615589
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6615589

>>6615571
Bad thing bad? Yeah we know, everyone but /g/edditors already shun all the faggots using it.

>> No.6615591

>>6615585
yes.
queue in the based ai "chad" annihilating artpigs in the next three posts
sage

>> No.6615594

>>6615585
Judging by how its written, it may be.
Fertile ground for AIfags

>> No.6615596

>>6615571
Indeed.

>> No.6615608

Only way artists could win against AI is by a ban, not by skills. KEK

>> No.6615619

>>6615571
pleaseee
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
I'm tired of hearing it, just be happy in your own work there's no point in worrying when we won't even do anything about Ai art. Why shit our pants when we can use the toilets?

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6615620

>>6615578
I'm mostly Trad because AI scrapes all digital work on the web. but I'm not posting unedited photos even of trad work becuase the AI can even scrape photos too easily.
>>6615594
Sorry I'm phone posting, I didn't check my writing.

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6615630

>>6615571
>I copy, trace and steal my work from other artists
>AI uncovers what artists have been doing for centuries
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! YOU CAN'T DO WHAT I'M DOING, AI!!!!!!! STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6615648

>>6615620
>This level of near sizcho paranoia.

Even if you got scraped what exactly are you worried about? Your name isn't notable enough that your style is going to be copied.
I hate AI be I fear that in the very near future trying to look at non ai art that hasn't been Glazed, locked behind paywalls smudged to shit or otherwise "protected" is going to be impossible very soon.

>> No.6615692

>>6615578
No draw retard asking people to post their work, lmao. Fuck off shitter

>> No.6615701

How can humans even compete with tin cans?

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6615703

Death to transsexuals
Death to AI
Death to Artists
Death to Normies

>> No.6615705

>>6615571
>using it as a reference should get you permabanned and blacklisted
What's the point of this? AI steals from artists so why not steal from AI? Don't even prompt, swipe that shit from /sdg/, it has no copyright. Since most of it has shitty inaccuracies if you're a good artist you can correct it and make it your own style
(and remember the best artists always hid their sources well!).

>> No.6615724

>>6615571
>Bait post by AI shill
>Obvious
>/ic/ will take the bait, as usual

>> No.6615757

>>6615724
>the AI spammer will reply to himself as usual

>> No.6615767

>>6615630
>>6615578
I don't think coping and tracing is problem. I think the speed and production rates of AI is a problem. Even when tracing a human gonna spend probably the whole day for only 1 picture, while only one AI can make thousands pictures a day. The same goes for the "you just bad artists" argument. Even if you are the god of art itself, you can't compete with machine speed.

>> No.6615775

>>6615571

Artists who don't have stories to tell are the ones raging at AI art, they just have that, art, nothing else on top of it. no project, in paper or gamedev or anything else. i love AI mainly because of moodrefs and rough ideas rapid iterations, and will use it 24/7 for that. but never will use AI pics in my works, for me its just a good way to get ideas.

>> No.6615783

>>6615767
>I think the speed and production rates of AI is a problem.
True, oversaturation will be a big problem. But 99% of AI is derivative shit (by design). The key for artists is differentiation. Standing apart will be more important than ever.

>> No.6615788

>>6615692
Am I wrong?

>> No.6615789

>>6615783
Until the scrapers take all your new unique style and train a picture shitter off that too. When it reaches that point the answer is acceleration. All artists band together to purposefully flood out the market to spite Ai users. Be sure to copy their usernames as closely as possible to confuse their potential "clients".

>> No.6615810

>>6615620
>bad art
>cares about ai
Hypothesis confirmed

>> No.6615812

Why do AIshills hate artists so much? I see them always talk about how artists are all elitists that gatekeep art but the worst I can remember seeing was an anon telling another anon that they don't want to be an artist, they just like the idea of being an artist. The only restriction on a persons ability to draw has been their own willingness to actually sit down and draw and I know for a fact that most of the shills are coming from /g/ so they know how to torrent books and resources. I've seen some say that they hate leftists and twitter users but I find it hard to believe that there are people that soulless out there that want to accelerate the automation of entertainment just to 'own the libs'. The only other one I've seen is people wanting more entertainment and more porn which is just sad since they obviously have nothing better to look foreword to, they need more media to consume since they have nothing better to do. If they just liked AI art that would be one thing but it's obvious by their attitude that they have some kind of chip on their shoulder.

>> No.6615838

>that much seething because some poojits made your skills obsolete
lmao, drawfags are pathetic

>> No.6615840

>>6615571

you sound like an idiot. we all know you're a fucking aitard.

>> No.6615842

>>6615788
Yes, you would know if you were an artist you retarded tourist.

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6615858

>>6615620
BASED GLAZER

>> No.6615866

>>6615775
>gamedev
This has convinced me beyond a doubt that gamedevs are among the most insufferable people on the planet.

>> No.6615869

>>6615858
Op here I don't use glaze often because it can be a pain to apply and leaves a noticeable pattern, it's also no where near foolproof.

That being said if you chose host your work publicly online (wouldn't post any work circa 2023 imo), you should ALWAYS glaze your work. While it can be beaten the scrapers may ignore it becuase it takes extra energy to unglaze work and it's just another roadblock to the AIjeets.
>>6615810
Pyw

>> No.6615870

>>6615866
so what's your project?

>> No.6615877

>>6615812
>turdworlders who are jealous of other turdworlders making a living by selling $30 commissions on Twitter
>people convinced that AI will finally be their ticket to them now being the artists
>owning the libs
>ideaguys who were bitter that nobody would work for free to bring their shitty ideas to life
>4chan and other social media addicts who artists jealous of artists getting attention and praise
>wagies, coders, and other laborers who hate their jobs
Typically they're from one of the above groups.

>> No.6615883

>>6615842
Sorry twitter artists who create generic coomsumerism content and those who aspire to draw like them count as bad artists.

>>6615869
>pyw
No I am not a newfag.

>> No.6615888

>>6615571
Based. Fuck AI, resist techno-feudalism.

>> No.6615895

AI art is just going to make fair use and the public domain significantly worse because people just have knee jerk reaction to it

>> No.6615937

>>6615589
Bullshit, you go to /g/ and like half of threads is AI shit, it’s like one anon out of 100 complaining

>> No.6615953

>>6615937
Is it me who has 0 reading comprehension or is it you?

>> No.6615965

>>6615953
Yeah it’s me, my bad

>> No.6615972
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6615972

AI is ART
The discussion is over

>> No.6616172

>>6615775
basado intellectual moodref enjoyer

>> No.6616241

What's up with this extremely sudden influx of AIfags? There's been nearly zero AI shill posts or threads since I came back in this last week and now there's a flood of them. Did something happen to stir up the nest?

>> No.6616252

>>6616241
It's the same person just posting different kinds of bait.

>> No.6616253

>>6616252
>/ic/ is one person

>> No.6616258

>>6615571
AI needs to be banned in general because it's going to end humanity.
But it's already too late

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6616259

I agree. It's factual that AI is only able to create good images because it steals intelectual property without consent.
Fucking jannies are taking to long to ban this shit.

>>6615812
>Why do AIshills hate artists so much?
because they can't be us. Tale as old as time. It's literally how Lucifer became Satan, he thought he could do a better job than God. They lack virtue.

>> No.6616264

>>6616253
It sure seems like it because I have 50% of the posts.

>> No.6616267

AI is inevitable

>> No.6616280

>>6616267
CP and rape is inevitable. Just let evil take root bro.

>> No.6616477

>>6616280
Copying your silly pictures will never be as serious as actual crimes, no matter how much you want it taken seriously.

>> No.6616486

>>6616280
troon logic

>> No.6616573
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"Ai art is soulle..."

>> No.6616817

>>6616241
SD, Midjourney,... join hand and fine a lawsuit that they only need to remove art that registered in copyright office.
If they success, they can sue artists for defamation and refused to let them feed the art into AI.
Sorry for bad English

>> No.6616842

help me on how to create a model that can detect ai artworks

>> No.6616843
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6616843

>>6616241
I don't know the answer to your question but in general you should be aware that AI art will never stop getting more popular. Until it's just seen as normal art like digital art is. People hated digital art at the beginning, too.

>>6615783
AI art is inherently more creative because it's "deriving" the art styles of basically everyone BUT THEN mixing them together in a literal infinite amount of ways. Something that would take mankind, should they attempt to do such a thing(which obviously doesn't happen), centuries to do. The easiest example to understand is mixing an anime model with a photorealistic model. You'll get an "anime artist if they real" effect depending on the ratio, and it will be a new style depending on how many distinct styles you're using.

And every single prompter is an artist. They all have their own tastes and represent that in their outputs. Most of them seem to have more of a defined style than anyone on /ic/ too. Because they're actually posting work that resembles a finished product.

>> No.6616988

>>6615810
This

>> No.6616992

>>6615812
They don't hate GOOD artists, they hate derivative basedboy faggots. Starve, bitch.

>> No.6617368

>>6615571
neck yourself

>> No.6617380

>>6615630
>I copy, trace and steal my work from other artists
copying is too vague, tracing has always been frown upon and stealing is punished, what is your fucking point?

>> No.6617391

>>6615895
AI doesn't pass any of the fair use criteria, no amendment needed

>> No.6617397

>>6616843
>AI art
>art
>it's just like digital bro
>non-sentient thing is creative
>"work"
you're baiting, you can't be this clueless?

>> No.6617669

>>6617397
It's just a tool so your entire chimp out makes no sense.

>> No.6617688

>>6617669
you are incorrect and disingenuous to boot

>> No.6617690

>>6617688
I'm completely correct and unlike you I can write a full paragraph because I'm a genuine person with a brain in their head. You're likely just another autistic shitposter with no mind of his own.

>> No.6617693

>>6617690
t. chat gpt

>> No.6617707

>>6617693
I accept your concession!

>> No.6617708

>>6617707
damn, they've fed it a 4chin model

>> No.6617909

>>6617708
Are "they" in the room with us now?

>> No.6618234

>>6617909
uncanny...truly AI has gone too far already

>> No.6618309

>>6616843
>ai is creative...
>but uhm its actually not sentient, actually the proompter is the artist
>but its also just a le tool lol please let me copyright it
>people said the same things about photoshop!!
Arent you faggots bored of spamming the same self contradicting gaslighting garbage
Get new material

>> No.6618405

>>6618309
it can be used for reference, it could be argued it is a tool in that way. but it is in no way an illustration tool and their duplicity lies in conflating the two in order to force acceptance and gain ground.

>> No.6618560

>>6615812
>Why do AIshills hate artists so much?

envy, the have and have not

>I see them always talk about how artists are all elitists that gatekeep art but the worst I can remember seeing was an anon telling another anon that they don't want to be an artist, they just like the idea of being an artist

privilege, advantages of people on high class that the lower class never had

>The only restriction on a persons ability to draw has been their own willingness to actually sit down and draw and I know for a fact that most of the shills are coming from /g/ so they know how to torrent books and resources.

its called time, those who prioritize more on working to survive everyday vs. those who just slack around doing nothing because all of their expenses are already coved, again its all advantages

>I've seen some say that they hate leftists and twitter users but I find it hard to believe that there are people that soulless out there that want to accelerate the automation of entertainment just to 'own the libs'.

pointless argument

>The only other one I've seen is people wanting more entertainment and more porn which is just sad since they obviously have nothing better to look foreword to, they need more media to consume since they have nothing better to do.

can you really blame them? they never wanted to be at the bottom, but those who rule just want to keep em under the heels

> If they just liked AI art that would be one thing but it's obvious by their attitude that they have some kind of chip on their shoulder.

they're like that because they felt enormous pain from early life, and they want to share that pain to you so you know what they feel

A.I. is the great equalizer, and I support it

>> No.6618568

>>6618560
The king is dead, long live the King

>> No.6618620

>>6618560
don't bother, the thread is on autosage, Ainigger

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>>6615972
Indeed

>> No.6619222

>>6618309
You aren't even trying to make any sense are you? Or are you so fucking retarded you don't realize you're babbling?

>> No.6619261

>>6619222
don't bother, you're not bumping this thread