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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep the discussion on-topic as much as possible.

>> No.6611501

3d model is a tool.
Liquify is a tool.
AI is a tool.

>> No.6611513

>>6611501
Ai is the greatest tool ever made.

>> No.6611538

>dedicate whole day to drawing
>absolutely nothing else I need to do
>my entire schedule is free and all I have to do is plug in the tablet
>sit and stare at the desktop clicking different icons for 7 hours imagining that I'm drawing something great

>> No.6611578

Men are a tool, a stepping stone for the AI gods to come.

>> No.6611582

Currently working on a drawing, but I also applied to a wagie job.
Currently going through background checks, and I’m anxious over the second potential interview.
As a result, my drawing process has been less than satisfactory.
Idk if I should even finish this drawing, or put it on pause until I can confirm I got the job.

>> No.6611625

>>6611177
Decided I’m gonna sign up for an art class. Just after hours professional development at a local college.

Honestly 80% of the reason is I wanna get a cute art gf. But itd be nice to get some formal training I think.
Biggest downside is the classes they have are very limited and mostly beg focused. So I can only really take so many before they’re all out. (Like 4 classes of value)

Maybe I’ll see if I can audit an actual art college nearby but that’ll be harder to pull

>> No.6611632

>>6611625
I went to a life drawing, also wanting to get an art gf, but it was just a bunch of senior citizens. Hope you have better luck than me.

>> No.6611634

Every time an artist I follow makes a post or posts on their "story" that they're in a relationship, I unfollow. Men, women, doesn't matter. I don't give a shit what you guys are having for dinner or where you're travelling to now, I'm here for art and if you deviate from that norm then I'm leaving. I never give a second chance either, because if you see it once you're 100% gonna see it again and again. You could argue that "oh anon it's because you're jealous", yeah you're absolutely right and art is my escape from that. Don't take that away from me and I won't take away one of your "follows".

>> No.6611636

>>6611632
I don’t mind the actual class either, since I only draw anime girls at home, it’d be good to push myself out of that comfort zone.
Wanted to do life drawing too but it’s only being done while I’m at work

>> No.6611708

What’s the point of life? Someone tell me why I shouldn’t kill myself.

>> No.6611770

Guys I want to get something off my chest

I've genuinely seen huge improvement via using AI

The way I use it doesn't feel like cheating though

>be me
>find a reference
>draw, refine and add base colour
>get to the point I'm happy
>take image put image into AI hell machine
>img2img it on a 0.3 blur (meaning it will use the majority of my picture to find flaws)
>get a batch of 5 images
>find my favorite one
>highlight hands and have them regenerated if they are fucked up
> take image back into CSP
Here's the important part
>go back to step 1 using new image as reference and repeat until I've improved

I basically use AI as a redline tool - and because the process is so quick I can draw all day

>> No.6611782

Earlier last year I started my uni break and I decided to pick up drawing. Did the Drawabox meme for 3 months half assed felt like it got nowhere by the time I got to construction and just said fuck it and I was back at uni again. I'm on my midsem break and I'm doing keys now. It's a lot more fun, and really makes me think if I need to do DAB at all when I could have just watched a few videos on basic perspective to get the gist of it. Oh well, just time lost. I'm gonna get there, one day

>> No.6611785

>>6611708
to meet the spirit while still in the material

>> No.6611788

>>6611770
Show and tell. Wouldn't you be better off doing actual master studies then drawing your own after, applying stuff you observed in the study? Is it more the AI gatcha aspect making it fun for you?

>> No.6611805

>>6611785
I'm sold. What temple do I sell myself off to? I'd make a good male prostitute.

>> No.6611810

>>6611770
post the procress/pyw

>> No.6611813

>>6611770
pretty smart, it's like getting hundreds of good artists to finish your art for you then averaging it out.

>> No.6611845

>>6611770
>doesnt learn actual lighting
>doesn't fix anatomy/composition/perspective mistakes
>assimilates the generic white light airbrush garbage the AI does
You're fucking yourself over trying to imitate a machine that will always do what you're doing, but better, faster, and at a higher output instead of focusing on improving in areas that actually matter. Why the fuck are you even drawing at all if your goal is to be like AI which will always make generic shit faster than you. Don't you have favorite artists to study from?
>it doesn't feel like cheating
Glad you're feeling good? You're still doing yourself a huge disservice.

>> No.6611869

>>6611770
>it doesn't feel like cheating though
>Guys I want to get something off my chest
hmm

>> No.6611871

>>6611501
you forgot
>I am a tool

>> No.6611875

>>6611805
Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

>> No.6611920

>>6611810
I'm not at my desk right now
But give me a reference and I'll draw it and do it tonight

>> No.6612016

>>6611501
>>6611513
AI is a tool so great that's going to live your life in your stead. Isn't that awesome

>> No.6612020

>>6611632
Years ago I fucked a handful of times an oldish (early 60) divorced lady I met at a painting class. It was pretty great, fucking old women is absolutely recommended if they look ok

>> No.6612117

Always feels like I'm running out of time but I'm not that old, I just hope I make the most out of my time alive because I've already wasted a fuck ton of but then I look into the future and realize how much more time there is assuming I even make it past 60. Nowadays I'm just trying to fill my time with stuff to do, as long as I know more than I did yesterday then that's a win for me.

Keep on, keeping on.

>> No.6612474

Sorry, no vent thread but have to post this somewhere.
The single most toxic person I’ve ever known is coming to live with me for probably forever.
last time they did this, they never left my house for even a minute, for anything.
they managed to never leave by calling delivery on everything, so the only moments i didn’t have to be physically right next to them was when i ran from my own house.
but my desktop workstation is permanently constructed a few feet from where they reigned last time, and i can’t afford to buy something mobile or rent a space some nebulous place else or do anything but survive off of what i’ve already managed to set up in the past,
so i will be drowning in just a day or two in their constant presence and feeling actively like i’d like to be roped and pulled apart by running horses every minute, in full spectrum, all day and night, for however many years and years it takes for them to decide to leave again.

>> No.6612516

>>6612474
Family? Maybe you can leave self help books around the place...

>> No.6612555

>>6612516
yeah, family. heh, oh man, would probably backfire like fuel.
great thought, though. i wish i were brave enough to try it.
last time it was like i was permanently petrified, i physically even found it difficult not to breathe as evenly and silently as possible, every second, so as to not make them remember me there. i hurt so badly waking up, because i was clenched rigidly upright the whole time i was awake, without feeling at ease enough to make even micro shifts which was killing my muscles 24/7. i couldn’t make myself stop. oh hell.

>> No.6612561

>>6612555
Is this him?

https://youtu.be/rxhKrtb3XsE

>> No.6612572

>>6612474
you sound like a woman
challenge him to a match of mathematics bare knuckles

>> No.6612579

>>6612555
with people like that, you sneak the meds

>> No.6612582

>>6612020
You're fucking disgusting kys

>> No.6612585

>>6612561
oh man. in a very different way, but I feel it.
>>6612572
that I am, I like this advice.

>> No.6612602

>>6612579
I love this
funny you guessed their med thing, just rotated 180 degrees.
they scream over the phone at their doctors all the time, when they won’t given them sackfuls of prescription meds they heard are for a full gamut of things they both had and thought they might have because they clicked all their ads.
any meds in the house, even vitamins, disappear when they’re around.

just telling someone these things makes me shake a little less, but sorry for taking up so much space for a vent. will try to stop.

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>>6611810
>>6611920
forgot I said I was doing this - this was a quick 30/40 minute no reference thing
Normally I would start with a reference - but this is as good as any other example

>>6611845
I do regular study too, but this is a good way of getting immediate feedback

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>>6612691
I hate this. I hate everything about this. Fuck ai. Fuck machines. Fuck you. I hope you never make it.

>> No.6612724

>>6612602
You sound like a weak ass female

>> No.6612736

>>6612602
ya man push through find support groups, we had one like that until they passed away. you can do art outside btw, pick up plein air painting, sketch at cafe/libraby, or save up for a portable tablet

>> No.6612740

>>6612724
you called it man.
knowing anon knows

>> No.6612746

>>6612736
you read my mind, dude. i was just looking out the window and thinking ‘at least it’s spring now. if i just stay up all night working inside maybe i can live during the day outside with a sketchbook or just really basic materials. can’t 3d outside though, but at least it could be warm enough out there, or something
thanks so much for the support group thing. you’re right, I should definitely look into it

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6613867

>almost a $1488 tax return
Elderly parents saikou! I'm going to spend it on an entry level gayming laptop so I can run Photoshop smoothly.

>> No.6613870

Stop coming on /ic/ if you actually want to make it.

>> No.6613878
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6613878

I’ve overcome procrastination. Everything is clicking. Anatomy, perspective, form, linework, I’m making breakthroughs in them all. Maybe this this I’ll make the leap from int to pro. I’m going to make it!

>> No.6613879

>>6613870
no

>> No.6613882

>>6613878
this year*

>> No.6613885

>>6612474
Who? A brother? I feel you because people constantly try and live in my house too, its extremely annoying

>> No.6613890

>>6613878
Nice, good luck dude!

>> No.6613900

>>6613885
Yeah, a sibling. I’m right with you in those feels so hard.
They get here this evening. A day or less warning from telling me they’re coming to take over my house. Feels like death.

>> No.6613903

>>6613878
Good luck anon.

>> No.6613920

>>6613900
Is it actually your house or are you living with your parents? How do you not just say no and not let them stay if you dislike them so much. You don’t owe them anything if you don’t want them around. Tell them to fuck off.

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6614090

Anyone else feel fake
I have artists I really like following me but it just makes me feel fake, I feel like im not improving at all or making anything good in the first place how come assholes I admire clicked that faggot ass follow button

>> No.6614101

I hate that most of what I do serves men in suits. Art is dead

>> No.6614109

I’m seriously considering starting a trucking job and doing art on the side so I can stop accruing more debt while I get my shit together. Sick of being broke and I don’t wanna be a wager for corporate AAA games that nobody will even remember 3 years from now.

>> No.6614153

I have 2 job interviews coming up this week, one to clean a local bank in the early mornings, and one as a kennel assistant for a dog boarding place. Wish me luck anons!

since they're both casual/part time I can work on my art too. I don't think I'll ever be well off in this lifetime because I'm a dumb autist leech, but I hope I wont be miserable anymore

>> No.6614274

>>6614153
that’s awesome, you’re really doing it.
you’ve got this down.
congrats and wishing you some killer luck!

>> No.6614507

>>6614090
Maybe you think your art is shit, but there's actually good artists out there who like a variety of styles, even from begginer level artists, people like what they like, who knows?, maybe there's something in your art that catches their fancy or simply you have a very negative view about yourself and your art, in any case cheer up, there's always someone who likes what you do but must important, try to like yourself first

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6614817

Thots on big yutubues using ai for video place image?

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6615192

>>6612691
never used ai before until i saw your post, it's pretty fun desu

>> No.6615194

fuck fuck fuck fuck another plateau reached. i hate this.

>> No.6615243
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6615243

>find an art teacher on youtube making tutorials and selling courses
>take a look at their instagram and other socials to see what's their professional work like
>it's nothing but studies upon studies and then selling courses based on those studies
Fascinating

>> No.6615261

>>6615243
He has one of the ugliest artstyles I've ever seen. Anime-styled animations unitonically has more sovl than his animated works.

>> No.6615269

>>6615243
those who can't... teach.

>> No.6615275 [DELETED] 

>>6611501
This


>>6611538
Seeks like a you problem lol. Just draw.


>>6611582
How about you get a real job.

>>6611625
>get art gf

Just quit than, ywnbata

>> No.6615699

>>6613920
it’s my house, damn i wish. they’re already here.
they’re crashing around in the kitchen right now.
i just came in from working after stepping out for the first time since they got here and found them inside my bedroom in the dark with my door which i usually keep keyed and locked wide open.
goddamn. privacy is the single most important thing to me.

turned out they were going to arrive in a few days but got someone to pay for a fast flight to here even before they called me, so they were already here by your post.
all of the crazy things about living with them immediately reasserted themselves when they set up in front of by workstation. it looks like i’ll just have to deal with this. i can’t kick them out, now. they’re family. it’s stupid and it’s hell, but i can’t.
really appreciate the feel of your reply for sure, regardless.
will try to stop talking now.

>> No.6615704

>>6615243
I think modern day white boy actually worked on some tv shows

>> No.6615805

Why are all my ads just Grammarly nowadays? It's getting annoying. I miss the Udemy ads for art courses and whatnot. It's like all I get is Grammerly and on the rare chance a coloso ad or Tickets to see some anime movie. That's it.

>> No.6616559

officially signed up for that stupid after hours college class.
wish me lucking finding a cute art gf to cum inside, and also that it helps me git gud.

>> No.6616576

>>6613878
>realistic style
>in the post-AI era

Anon, I.....

>> No.6616583

>>6615699
Force them into a closet like area of your house and tell them that’s where they can be, if you’re going to have them stay. If they refuse, call the police and have them taken out of your house by force. You absolutely cannot stand for this when it is your house. I’m enraged and I don’t even know you people lol. Do not let this person walk all over you, he clearly thinks he can get away with it and you don’t have to allow it for a fucking second.

>> No.6617024

For those of you who have art websites, do you shove everything on a single page or split it up into categories of art (for example: fanart, concept art, etc)?

>> No.6617101

>>6615243
I read your post and thought of moderngayjames even before clicking the picture. I remember when this pseud had a bunch of fanboys on here who'd always crawl out of the woodwork and defend him

>> No.6617111

>>6616576
That's Charles Dana Gibson anon

>> No.6617136

>>6617101
His Discord talks about this place a lot

>> No.6617523

>>6615192
This ones a better example of the usage because you didn't just blindly copy the robot like the first guy did.

>> No.6617768

the less I have to draw, the hardest it is to finish. If I just have to fix one eye, it'll take me a whole week. But sketching out a new thing is much easier.

>> No.6618264

>>6612555
you women are so dramatic

>> No.6618274
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Somehow I as a self-taught artist am making more money than my late-millenial and zoomer friends. They have expensive degrees and yet they're stuck working dead end jobs. I don't know what's going on anymore

>> No.6618375

>>6615192
>>6612691
Wow, this is honestly a fun way to improve using AI as a tool, gotta try it today.

>> No.6618378

>>6618274

lies

>> No.6618381

>>6612691
this sounds interesting, does the AI add the crap you submit to its database at all, or is it all anonymous?

>> No.6618393

>>6612016
Ignorant, low IQ take.

>> No.6618922

>>6618381
you can run stable diffusion offline, and it's open source. so no, the boogiemen will not be coming to steal your futa drawings

>> No.6619051

Today an anon asked me, for my first time on /ic/, if I had a blog :)

>> No.6619218

>>6618922
when you think about it, adding our drawings to an AI would only weaken it. like a gene pool.

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6619231

>go to open model every week
>always a fat ugly woman
I don't need this much practice drawing fat ugly women goddamnit.

>> No.6619311

>>6619218
would it be possible to set up an AI bot farm that produced intentionally bad works for other AIs to train off them to sabotage them?

>> No.6620116

>>6619311
it'd be more effective than trying to digitally watermark crap that's for sure

>> No.6620146

>>6618375
>improve
Improve being a crippled artist with AI shaped crutches yes

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6620274

Bros I'm scared, I can't trust webcams anymore, talking to girls on the internet was my way to cope with being single for 30 years, do I just get the rope now that I might have been living in a lie?

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6621033

>find art that uses colors incredibly
>top tier shit, can stare at it for minutes
>click on the artists' profile
>it's a woman
every. single. time.

it isn't fair bros, apparently women just see and differentiate color better than men. are we just fucked then? or is that stuff bullshit, and there's some other reason it's always women who can paint like this. this isn't some incel rant just pls show me a man who can do rei 17 tier color shit, gimme some hope

>> No.6621561

>>6621033
unless you're literally colourblind i think you just need practise anon. don't give up. also don't get disappointed at historical work being odd coloured sometimes, pigments fade over time.

>> No.6621567

>>6620274
it's called catfishing

>> No.6621585

>>6621033
>find art that uses colors incredibly
You could recognize the colors were pleasing, so you can do it too if you practice.
Nathan Fowkes comes to mind.
https://www.instagram.com/nathanfowkesart/?hl=en

>> No.6622003

I got a better job since last year but I’m now remembering why I hate working in general. Not just because it takes up my time for a little money but because when I do something good or bring attention something important that should be thought about by the higher ups I get fucking ignored. It’s the worst feeling. I think I do something great and I get no recognition. During meetings I get no recognition no matter how hard I work and it’s always a dick sucking fest for an hour every week.

With art at least I could get recognized through social media and whatnot for things I enjoy. I just wish I didn’t have to work anymore as immature as that sounds.

>> No.6622748 [DELETED] 

These shills are fucking tiring, I've been arguing in favor of normal art to make retards on /ic/ keep drawing instead of adopting sd but these shills are on a whole another level of retard instead of keeping quiet and continue to capitalize on it and say old art is better they neeed to keep their mouths open

>> No.6622789

>>6621033
Come on dude the impressionist and romanticists all had great colors. Even loomis had nice colors ur making us man look bad. Pick it up.

>> No.6622804 [DELETED] 

>>6621033
i liek benhzjan zuhung benan eh am na

>> No.6622836

I made it my goal to draw something at least once a week and I managed to stick to that goal for a while but my fire for drawing kinda died out and I ended up only drawing something once a month.

I still wanna draw but now I'm going months without actually drawing. I have some ideas on how to improve my art but it feels like the better I might be able to do the more I want to avoid actually trying at it

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I'm afraid my writing will be worthless crap because I don't have enough life experience to draw upon.
Wanting to make something "real" puts me in a catch-22: If I write too much of what I know, it will just be depressing, pointless, and boring. Who the fuck would benefit from a story about Anon #56626 going about his normal life?
But, if I stray too far from the reality of my own experiences, I risk making yet another piece of cliche'd hyper-reality bullshit that misleads people about the world around them.

I guess the only way around this is to accept that I'm not going to write this generation's Illiad.

>> No.6622956

>>6622951
How the fuck is that your conclusion, and not "I need to go live my life more"?

>> No.6622961

>>6622836
You set a stupid goal to begin with. Draw at least something small every day. Keep it as a habit.

>> No.6622988

>>6611177
What a shitty fucking idea for a thread, and somehow it's been shitted up even more with the same tired fucking pedantic tripe about AI, being to depressed to draw etc

>> No.6623013 [DELETED] 

I was just told my art looks like nothing the visitor ever seen and asked for some timelapse. I do art the new way, what the fuck do I do now?

>> No.6623015

>>6622988
It was my idea. I take full responsibility.

>> No.6623027

>>6622988
Fuck you this threads been around for awhile newfag. They're better than a lot of other garbage here

>> No.6623032

>>6623013
>. I do art the new way
This gave me a chuckle, thanks anon

>> No.6623033

>>6611177
I masturbated 6 times this week

>> No.6623341

>>6621033
glad im not the only one who noticed this kek

>> No.6623422

i've been using CSP for like 5 years at this point and i still can't get used to their dog shit painting engine. sketching and line-art is all good but the fucking painting just sucks. can't switch back to photoshop or krita because i've gotten so used to the very nice distinction between tool groups that having everything on "b" again feels like regressing 20 years in UX

>> No.6623455

>>6612691
>>6615192
how to turn yourself into a brainless sissy who shits the bed when a girl says "can you draw me anon?" 101

>> No.6623477

>>6623455
Isnt the point of the example they provided to draw what they see but retroactively get feedback on their drawing?

I see where you're coming from if they did point 1 and then point 2 or ONLY did point 2

But the method above requires you to still draw

>> No.6623481

>>6623033
But we're monday

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>>6622956
>How the fuck is that your conclusion, and not "I need to go live my life more"?
Because it's a long-term, unpredictable thing that takes time. I have been trying to "live life more" for the past few years and haven't been very successful. It's better to accept your flaws in the short term than beat yourself up for not meeting some vague standard.
I will be moving somewhere new to see if a change of scenery will get things going, but I'm not optimistic. Having close friends and intimate relationships (aka the bedrock of human experience) is pretty foreign to me.

>> No.6623693

Going to run an experiment with my time at work today. I’m going to set aside 25 minutes per hour at the halfway mark of my shift to draw.

>> No.6623701

>>6622951
>that misleads people about the world around them.
that's the depression talking homie

>> No.6623751

>>6622951
The story itself is not nearly as important as you think. It's how you write it, how you present it.
With clear limitations and guidelines, you could write a novel describing a guy painting a wall and make it fun and interesting.

>> No.6623769

>>6623693
interesting, i finished my quota for the hour and have a decent 15 minutes to fuck around

>> No.6623775

Where the hell are all the forums about painting? Even those atelierfags must congregate somewhere online. Is it all just instagram nowadays?

>> No.6623789

>>6623775

Facebook ironically

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>>6615699
Its your place man, just tell him he can stay for a month or something but then has to fucking go
You dont have to be uncomfortable in your own home for familys sake

>> No.6623826

>>6619051
Yeah feels good whenever /ic/ is nice to you
Mostly happens to like medium tier artists, /begs/ are too bad for compliments and pros usually get hate out of jealousy

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>>6623751
> you could write a novel describing a guy painting a wall and make it fun and interesting.
True. You can talk about why he's there painting the wall, what's going through his head, the location of the house...
I think I have my head too far up my ass, trying to figure out the formula for the next Great American Whatever that will solve The Problems of Our Age (TM).

>>6623701
>that's the depression talking homie
Possibly. Looking back, I have done quite a few things in my personal life.
I guess when you've been struggling to get a healthy social life or a "thing"/brand going, any story involving relationships or building something cool seems unrealistic. It becomes hard to imagine how you get to "there" from "here" when you haven't achieved that in your own life.
I try to avoid power fantasies because indulging in them takes energy that could be spent actually improving yourself..

>> No.6623891

>>6623536
I dunno man just get a tent and toss some shit in a backpack and just go. Wdym it takes time, you could be dead tomorrow.

>> No.6623915

>>6623455
good thing girls dont talk to me

>> No.6623917

>>6623915
I’m a girl and I’m talking to you right now :)

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>>6623917

>> No.6623924

>>6623921
Don’t be shy, hehe.

>> No.6624070

>>6623917
fake and gay

>> No.6624562

>>6624070
nope it was pretty cute
(pretty sure a lot of femanons hang out in /ic/ man, just in case anyone hasn’t been here long enough to figure it out, btw)

>> No.6624826
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6624826

Found out a few months ago I had an iron deficiency. Since the age of 12 I was often lethargic, couldn't concentrate, and couldn't get much work done. Would sleep for 9 hours and still be tired through the day. After I've started taking iron suppliments that all gone. I've literally been drawing for 10 hours every day and still feel full of energy. It's great but I wish I'd discovered this sooner instead of in my late 20s.

>> No.6624841

>>6624826
Similar discovery for me last week. I went to the hospital for heart palpitations (pressure kept shooting up to 120 barely doing anything while standingsitting to as far as 130-170 just walking up the stairs) and the doctors just chalked it up to dehydration, which didn't really help. Then I bought some vitamin D, magnesium, and fish oil and the problem went away.

Not 100% since I just started taking them, but when I stand my heart rate no longer shoots over 100 for no reason and remains normal. I don't know why doctors don't suggest supplements more unless they just really don't give a shit about the majority of the patients unless a frail, young girl with a distressed mother.

>> No.6625031

Coming back to pixel art after a paid gig I did using ms paint in high school 10 years ago. Currently learning pro motion ng. Pretty fun getting back into things. I miss making art.

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>>6625031
And then I said to him “no, i don’t think i’ll let you”.

>> No.6626231

Are good artists just always drawing good things or are they carefully choosing what they release? How do they get ideas to draw every day, do they know how to find good references?

And why does everything they draw look "the same" if that makes sense? Every time I draw, I'm trying to improve since I'm beg, so if it looks like last time then that's bad. I'm always trying to figure out HOW to draw a thing, but good artists are not drawing realistic things, they have their own signature symbol drawing. I can't actually find artists that keep their old stuff online so I can actually see the progression, their oldest stuff is always already perfect.

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>people see my sketches
>online get called a pro, people ask for my blog, unironic compliments like "wow thats beautiful", visibly impress people IRL and even have been approached by random people praising my work
>post finished work
>online i am ignored (best case scenario) or irreverently shat on about everything from technical ability to my taste, people irl give "eh, thats interesting man" tier responses

Kek it's so over.

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>people see my sketches
>online get called a pro, people ask for my blog, unironic compliments like "wow thats beautiful", visibly impress people IRL and even have been approached by random people praising my work
>people see my finished work
>online i am ignored (best case scenario) or irreverently shat on about everything from technical ability to my taste, people irl give "eh, thats interesting man" tier responses

Kek it's so over.

>> No.6626404

>>6626401
How are you approaching your finished work?
lines/colors etc? or painted?
I find polished work often looks worse than lively sketches.

>> No.6626410

>>6626401
It's not over. Even the Old Masters made beautiful sketches which absolutely mogged their finished work

>> No.6626456

>>6626231
I'm probably /beg/ by ic standards but I've made crazy progress and non-artists have been calling my artwork good.


Having good references on hand is a bit important, but its super important during the learning process . After you've drawn something a hundred times and a hundred different ways you start to get a sense for what details you can leave out and what artistic flourishes you like adding, and this is where style comes from. Eventually the thing you are drawing gets burned into your mind and you wont need references.

In my case, basically everything that makes it past the sketching stage gets released, and whether or not something gets that far depends entirely on how interested I am in the idea.

The huge caveat is that I draw fetish stuff, so I'm drawing the same couple of things over and over again.

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I am stuck in a constant state of seething that I'm not as good as artists with 20 years of experience and I just can't allow myself to feel any joy or self-worth until I'm at that level.
It's abstract self-constructed hell. Leeching off my parents and delaying my graduation as long as possible so I can draw all day. To absolutely no end. It's just technical grinding because I don't consider myself good enough to derive joy from art yet.

Holy hell my brain is just so tangled up with ego driven OCD tier behaviors surrounding art. I don't even fucking like art anymore. I hate drawing, It makes me angry, sad, and even if it makes me happy for a bit I'll immediately just shit on myself over whatever criteria I fall short of. I. Hate. Drawing. The only thing that feels even remotely cathartic is talking about just how much I fucking despise drawing.

I genuinely do not even remember why I started. I don't remember what I wanted to draw. It has taken on the character of an addiction and my north star is just "get good". I will be late for appointments, skip meals and not sleep just to put more time in. People will ask me if anything is wrong because it's quite evident that I'm in pain, and I'll just say that I'm fine because they simply can't understand the level of psychotic, fruitless, egotistical obsession I am undergoing. I will be out with friends, but I won't really be there. I'm in my head, and I'm going over the last session's fuckups, what I did wrong, the mean critiques I've gotten over the years, and so on.

>> No.6626781

>>6611501
Tracing is a tool
Stealing ideas is a tool
Paying a corean for a comission and then putting my signature over it is a tool

>> No.6626839
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I'm having fun and improving all the time.

I got into art a bit late in life after escaping a black hole of depression so I feel like I'm behind massively compared to people my age but discovering art made my life so much better and I'm finally happy. Just working on char design/anatomy/etc. Made some good friends in a server (not art related) so it's cool to have people to chill with. I'll keep studying and improving everyday.

It would be nice to have an art server with people who also want to improve but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

>> No.6626846

Haven't lost my Job to AI but the competition is getting worse and a worse by the day.
I work as an illustrator for a midsize copywriter, and granted they haven't replaced the art dept with AI but they know they can dangle this silent threat on us. The mid-levels desperately want to cut their divisions by more than half with AI.
They've also killed almost all comradery between artists and its now a race to 1up and dick each other over to keep your job.

>> No.6627049 [DELETED] 

Finally found out how to block time wasting sites (like this one) on mobile + PC today and felt so much better. Did a lot of new things I normally don’t do. Maybe i’ll crank up the block time more but I know I still need a place to chat.

>> No.6627064

>>6626846
unionize

>> No.6627293

I kinda want to nuke my Twitter account, just to see what happens

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>>6627293
What are you expecting to happen?
I'm an artist that nuked his gallery by the way. So ask away if you have any doubts before doing something dumb.

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6627320

My Twitter got hacked and turned into a NFT bot of all things...
Lost all 33 of my followers!

I've started waking up super early, like 4AM, and drawing until 5:30.
Starting my day with a bit of drawing really improves my mood. It always sucked how I'd spend my best energy on work then come home to my art tired, maybe this is a healthy solution?

>> No.6627328

>>6627303
>What are you expecting to happen
I don't know, I just feel like that sometimes, like a part of me wanting to stop feeling anxious about social network stuff and just going back to the old days when I was drawing stupid shit without a care in the world, but then I consider the possibility of using art for money in the near future and not waste the little presence I've gained over the last years. I already deleted a DeviantArt account long ago just after one year after getting bored with the site, I guess it's the same feeling now, but I'm curious now, how did you feel when you nuked your gallery back then?

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>>6627328
>how did you feel when you nuked your gallery back then?
I deleted my gallery for many reasons that I can't really explain right now. But it felt liberating when I finally deleted it. Not having to think everytime that I drew something if I was wasting my time on a drawing that would make me lose followers, not having to follow shitty trends or do drawings of mutual's OC for followers felt great.
But at the same time it was hard to get back to drawing without the reward that social media gives you. But I never got into art to be a "twitte artist". And now I can focus on actually improving and not just pumping garbage for likes.
I do miss doing commissions tho. Having the extra money was kinda nice.

>> No.6627475 [DELETED] 

>>6626846
Just admit that you're a horsecart about to get run over by a steam locomotive.
Give up and make way for Prompt Imagineers.

>> No.6627605

>>6627320
How does that even happen?

>> No.6627661

>>6627605
When Elon bought Twitter and introduced Blue he removed 2FA (SMS) from all non-Blue accounts.

I don't use Twitter that often so I didn't know. Lo and behold, I come to post and find my account hacked and suspended.
I'm posting on my secondary account now and put the app-based 2FA on it

>> No.6627983

I can't put any effort into drawing. I fill my sketchbook with low effort garbage. Been drawing for a decade but you'd think I started a year ago.

>> No.6627985

>>6627320
I'm so proud of my 5 Japanese furry followers, I don't know what I'd do if I got hacked

>> No.6628031

I genuinely think if I wasn't a virgin my art would be far less coom pilled and I'd be a better artist for it.

>> No.6628086

i'm getting lost interest in drawing
i copied so long time
i don't have any brilliant idea to draw and strugling drawing from imagination is literally bullshit to me

>> No.6628093

>>6628086
basically the inevitable fate to anyone falling for the 'just copy like a chink bro' meme posts.

>> No.6628186

I'm so efficient with my time that everything I draw takes exactly 1 hour now, but I'm in the zone so it feels like 5 minutes. I'll look at the clock after finishing and it'll be within 3 minutes of when I started. And whenever I think about drawing I end up asking "Do I want to throw away the next hour of my life?" like time is getting faster and faster

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I lost inspiration to draw, there's nothing I want to draw, even when I decide to drawing something random it's getting boring/frustrating quickly.

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6628896

How can I make it while working a shitty wagie job? I'm too tired to do anything else after work, cooking, showering and cleaning. I end up just dissociating for the short remainder of my free time or being too tired to do anything but sleep. I dont even watch TV or play vidya much anymore.

Is this just life? I feel like a shriveled mouldy vegetable.

>> No.6628992

>>6624826
>>6624841
same bros, except I have a B12 deficiency. I couldn't get out of bed because I was so tired, vision was blurry. had no motivation. fish oil and multivitamins have helped a lot.

look after your health frens and take good care of yourselves

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>that one follower who reblogs, likes, and comments on every drawing you post even when no one else does
you're a real one, bro

>> No.6629498

>>6628896
Wake up early and draw in the morning.

>> No.6629510

>>6628896
Find a better job, work hard, get promoted and you’ll have so much free time it’s not even funny. Happened for 2 jobs I’ve held in my life so far. Yesterday I sat there playing gacha for almost 4 hours straight barely needing to touch my laptop.

>> No.6630646

>check an art students twitter you went to school with
>You get x5 + likes more than them consistently as a /beg/ cs grad
huh? what are art teachers teaching?
>>6611625
>>6611632
Not a college but I'm thinking about signing up for an independent place, have you guys tried those sorts of places?

>> No.6630680

>>6630646
To clarify I do expect classes for non-students to be better, more just worried about what colleges are doing to art students in general

>> No.6630718

>>6630646
link? to either?

>> No.6630734

>>6630718
not gonna dox either of us but he gets 5-25 and I get 50-150

>> No.6630749

>>6630734
:-/

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>>6624826
wait a sec, only women have iron deficiencies...

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I've just got to do it. We ball.

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i regret giving up my artist dreams. i hate having to use up time to study for shit i don't care for. i'm starting to get burned out of college but it's much too late to drop out now. i haven't landed an internship yet and i feel my grades are slipping...
well, that's the way it goes i guess...

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>>6631052
What are you going to do anon? Should we worry?

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>>6631086

>> No.6631132

>>6631080
>turn art into a soulless day job (even if you don't make money, just grinding unenthusiastically like its your job)
>oh shit actually I'm passionate about <shitty major you gave up on>!!!
>turn shitty major you gave up on into a soulless day job
>oh shit actually I'm passionate about art!!!

this you?

>> No.6631149

>>6630646
Likes on social media aren't everything. There's plenty of great artists who get low sms engagement for a variety of reasons. Inconsistant posting, no fanart or meme engagement etc. Like count doesn't really say much per se.

Even if their art is worse than yours, pointing to their like count is probably the shallowest way to say that.

of course, if you're trying to ask "why aren't art schools teaching students how to network and game social media" though, that's a valid question...

>> No.6631160

I don't feel like I have the same energy to do projects all alone like I did 10 years ago, gonna start hiring some cheap SEA artists to distribute workload at this rate

>> No.6631173

>>6611177
Had to put together a mini portfolio for an art trade and holy shit all of my finished artwork is from 1+ year ago back when I had social media. I only do sketches now and the fact I only have 2 finished pieces from the past 10 months really woke me up.
Sucks I need social media to get myself to finish stuff.

>> No.6631469

>>6631132
it almost would.
i won't give up the major though, even if i'm not sure if i'll be able to get a decent job in that field.

>> No.6633003

Went through an old sketchbook and found an anthropomorphic cat character... It wasn't supposed to be like this bros
>https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI

>> No.6633006

>>6633003
Everyone probably drew an anthro when they were young, it's only a problem if you're shoving spiked dildos up your asshole in your 30s.

>> No.6633098
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I use drawing as a masturbation aid.

>> No.6633103

It really is annoying seeing AI shit spammed on other boards too. Entire threads on /v/ are flooded with that garbage

>> No.6633174

>>6623891
I could be dead tomorrow.

>> No.6633177

It's. Time. To. Draw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6633374

>>6633098
By the time I open a canvas I immediately lose my boner and any interest in drawing whatever I was just thinking about. I have no idea how people can do it.

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FUCK YEAH we're back in this bitch lets gooooooo
GET FUCKED art block punkass weaksauce shit

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6634939

How the fuck can someone draw so goddamned much and still have it look like complete shit?

>> No.6634948

Factory wagie job starts tomorrow, wasn't exactly the industry job I wanted.
Do you guys have recommendations for making anthro character design portfolio?

>> No.6634957

>>6634939
Where do you suppose the skill cutoff for artists should be? Some people achieve a certain style/look and that's all they want and it makes them happy. Sometimes that style they love is shit, it can't be helped. As long as they have a good attitude, I can respect it

>> No.6634990

>>6634939
I dont think they care about getting "gud." It's like my mothers cooking going up against professional chefs.

>> No.6634995

>>6634939
i knew a guy who was constantly drawing cartoon stuff like that in tech school, he was at least 10 years older than everyone else and it felt like he was stuck in a time bubble whenever i talked to him

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When I started drawing 8 years ago it was because of anime, but I quickly gained an application for the Old Masters and now spend a lot of them studying their work. Did this happen to any of you anons as well?

>> No.6635921

>>6635918
>application
appreciation

>> No.6635936

>>6635918
So you turned gay? You went from attractive women to fat women and naked macho men.

>> No.6635977

>>6635936
lolwut I don't draw either of those. I draw cute little girls

>> No.6635988

>>6635977
Well, I do draw men too but they're not macho retards

>> No.6636073

I can't tell if the popular users in the art group I'm in are conspiring against me or if there's a more rational explanation for why I'm ignored despite doing everything I can to be likeable. And no I'm not trying too hard and I don't draw anything weird. I'm good at making friends irl and with strangers on twitter which is why this confuses me.

>> No.6636087 [DELETED] 

>>6636073
Maybe your art is shit and everyone is too polite to call you on it so they ignore you instead.

>> No.6636093

>>6636087
Unlikely. I have more followers and likes on my art on twitter than any of the people in the group. They don't know that though because I havent shared my twitter with them.

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>>6635918
nah, started with anime and fantasy when I was a kid and it's what interests me today, though it really feels like I haven't grown up since I was 12 or so

>> No.6636123

>>6611582
Why not both? You can start a new layer then continue drawing, if it's shit throw it out or are you doing something traditional?
>>6611636
That's great you're trying to put yourself out there getting out of your comfort zone, I've been cooped up in my house for far too long I might do the same.
>>6611634
I want to do that with eliza or whatever her name is but the fact that it is envy makes me keep them,that being said I rarely pay attention to artists on social media.
>>6611782
It's not really time lost, skills compound on itself, those failures taught you something, but didn't give you enough to see progress. Maybe in the future when you're struggling you'll pull DAB out of your tool box.
>>6612691
This is actually a cool idea, It's like goku training by blasting Kamehamehas in the opening of battle of the gods. I don't know how AI works or where to even go to use one so I probably am not going to try it out.
>>6613878
You could be going through a mania or the edge of a flow state brother. I had one a couple of days back realizing that I could numb certain emotions out to get the work done and when fatigued use said emotions to fire me back up... but then the power went away...
>>6615243
I can't stand his style, also I agree 100% most youtube art teachers have undesirable styles and the people I do want to copy do not speak english.

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>smelly
>no friends
>bad art
>stuck on /ic/

>> No.6638186

>>6612691
>>6615192
Very interesting way of using AI. I can see myself using it do improve a meh drawing when I can no longer see where to improve it, or when I do a rough sketch because the final image isn't well defined in my head. There's no use trying to fight AI, technology will NEVER stop its progress, so I might as well turn it into a helper.

>> No.6638197

>>6615243
He's been working on a Musashi animation recently, it's actually pretty cool

>> No.6638241

HELLO, I HATE HANDS

Anyway
>have three extra free days because holidays
>didn't practice drawing at all
>not screwing around with the work I was procrastinating a lot just when I'm supposed to go sleep
wew.

>> No.6638708

I drew my husbando today. It looks terrible, and I'm very happy.

>> No.6638784
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6638784

draw draw draw I just wanna draw!!

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Hey, everyone! Look what I got!

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Get on his level.

>> No.6639611

>only enjoy fundies grinding during work hours
???

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I need to change my art style to completely separete myself from my old drawing accounts. But it's almost impossible.
Any tips?

>> No.6639843

All of you are fucking retarded. There aren't any good artists giving advice here, because stubborn permabegs drive them all out.

If you're smart, you would leave this board ti.

>> No.6639859

>>6639836
your style is intrinsically tied to your preferences and your skill level
get better taste and better skills

>> No.6640090

>>6639836
Don't worry, you probably aren't good enough to have a recognizable style.

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>>6639843
> because stubborn permabegs drive them all out

Why do I keep seeing this same fucking sentence or a variation of it every fucking week? It has to be the same imbicle talking about himself in third person. Nobody drove your ass out and why do you want to save the very people you hate by telling them to leave with you? You just said it here

>all of you

SO WHY in Gods name don't you
>leave

This board yourself? It's the same with discord threads every single week. Some fucktard makes a thread begging to go to a discord server because "I hate everyone here" and "btw everyone who I hate here, do you have a place where I can go so I can get away from you people I hate?". Joining a server with the SAME EXACT people you're talking down to.

What exactly is your goal here? To make this place a desolate wasteland until only 1 person remains? And then let's say after some time someone else walks on the board. Now there are 2 people. Will you come back from your "greener pastures" to shout at the 2 peo--sorry, the person who just walked on the board to leave it because "stubborn permabegs" drove (you) off the board and that you're totally (not here) right now?

Enough of this shit already.

>> No.6640114

>>6640110
you took my post too seriously. I was just venting into the void

>> No.6640117

>>6640110
So don’t worry. I love you <3 and I’m here for you forever

>> No.6640118

>>6640090
nta but i'm shit and people STILL recognize me from years ago.

>> No.6640119

>>6640118

You really can't escape the way you express yourself. There is this guy on here where I can recognize their shit from across the room in thumbnail form without second guessing.

>> No.6640121

>>6640117

you should just go be with your amazing good artists in neverever land

>> No.6640136

>>6640121
you mean the real world?

(oooohh!! btfo!)

>> No.6640174

>>6640119
Changing style on a whim is possible but it's a god-tier pro level skill. Until then good luck

>> No.6640183

>>6640090
I was known in some specific fandoms and groups that I want to get out off. People recognize my style even if I don't sign the drawings. So sadly I can't start a clean slate just like that.
>>6640174
>it's a god-tier pro level skill
Damn fuck me I guess lol

>> No.6640194

I'm almost at the point where I have more twitter followers than I follow myself. It's modest but it feels like a breakpoint.

>> No.6640201

>>6640183
Sorry anon. I get where you're coming from though. I've successfully detached from past identities before by just not having any social media for years while my skills developed. By the time I got back I was so much better no one knew who I was at all.

>> No.6640368

>>6640194
that's quite a breakthrough

>> No.6640390 [DELETED] 

I unironically want to anhero due to AI robbing me the only thing I had as an alternative to being a wage slave. I have survived a decade of panic attacks, unpaid work, and isolation only to find out there is nothing at the end of the tunnel. I wish this shitty body wasn't acting up so I could do my shit when there was still hope. I am being physically ill from the constant stress that this thing brings me. I can't stop thinking everyday that I need to go back in time. It's over in this time, the 2010 was the last good decade. I'm so fucking done, and I can't even do the rational thing because I lack the mans and this body is too pain averse. I just wish I wouldn't wake up ever again or was able to go back live a happy and productive life until I got turned 30, and when the year turns to 2020 I would blow my brains off and be happy that i got off the train in time.

>> No.6642090

if you dont enjoy drawing then just quit, noone likes hearing you faggots complaining about how bad you are at it.

>> No.6642444

>>6642090
I still got a score to settle.

>> No.6642454 [DELETED] 

>>6642444
Just use ai

>> No.6642509

>>6642454

Fuck AI.

>> No.6645144
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>>6626401
i feel your pain brother/sister. it hurts when the work that makes you grow as an artist and pushes your boundaries is also shit no one wants to look at.

>> No.6645163

>>6626401
become a sketchgod

>> No.6645545

Learning how to draw actually unironically ruined my life.

>> No.6647607
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6647607

All I fucking do is go to work, draw, and jack off.
I spend so much time and energy at my job I barely have any for myself. I drag myself to my desk and I draw as much as I can before collapsing into bed for another day at work

If I go to the gym (something I don't enjoy) I end up with no energy to draw.
But if I don't my health steadily declines, I get back pain, lack breath, my wrists and arms flare up.

Everything is so much and so demanding all the fucking time. I just want to end myself.
Every time I crawl into my car for another day at my job I'm fucking screaming inside my head to kill myself.

>> No.6647652

>>6647607
Sorry to hear that my dude.
Have you tried any vitamins yet or extra sunlight?

>> No.6647653

>>6647607
Keep looking for a way to make income that works to your benefit so you can quit your nightmare job. It's a long process for most of us to find life's sweet spot, but hang in there fren and keep fighting for something better.

>> No.6647655

>>6645545
explain

>> No.6647657

>>6647607
Making it while working 8hrs is just impossible.

>> No.6647667

>>6647607
Fapping makes you more sleepy.

>> No.6647745

>>6612691
>only %30 is generated! The other %70 is me!
>If i copy only %25 of the ai pic, that means I drawed %95 of the final result all by myself!

>> No.6647862

>>6647655
no

>> No.6648811

I fucking got hacked somewhere and got robbed of nearly $200 before my bank stopped it. I can't think of how anyone could get my credit card unless one website that stores my CC info got breached.

Make sure to change your passwords, guys. It can happen to any anon. Even (you).

>> No.6648838

sometimes I wish I could travel to the future, trace the popular art there, and bring it back, knowing its guaranteed to be good. I hate drawing something and it either gets 2 likes or 1000 likes and I have no idea why.

>> No.6648843 [DELETED] 

>>6648838
You clearly don't care about drawing. Just use AI and scam your way out.

>> No.6648858

>>6648843
I like drawing, but I also want to improve. Knowing which direction to go would be helpful

>> No.6649054

>>6626401
that's because these days it's incredibly easy to "cheat" when you do a "finished" work that took who knows how many hours to finish.
now compare that to live sketching, which will often quickly show to anyone your true skill level

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6649170

I enjoy being nice and encouraging others but nobody likes me anyways

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6649425

>Have a 1000 things I want to draw
>Have the skill for 500
>Have the energy for 100
>And have the time for just 1
It's depressing

>> No.6649457

>>6649425
Almost same, but for me it's
>1000 things I want to draw
>The skill to draw 1000
>The energy to draw 1000
>The time to draw 0

>> No.6649672

drawing just feels like randomly putting down lines and hoping you get lucky. Is there a term for this hyper self awareness, like the opposite of flow state. I spend an hour redrawing one little thing hundreds of times, and they were all shit. Like I'm trying to find the secret combination of lines that will make it good.

>> No.6649787

what’s with hidechannel lately? he’s been streaming a lot more frequently and made a 2nd channel with tacky, western style thumbnails. Is he trying to be super viral now?

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6650242

constantly back and forthing between having energy and motivation to having neither. tuesday i was in the zone. Today, i feel like a corpse in motion. i need discipline and shit but i cant cultivate it when my very existence keeps me from it. I've given myself till the end of the year to get myself squared away so i can live a better life, but on days like today it feels hopeless

>> No.6650341

>>6649787
Slapping stock photos on a thumbnail isn't western, you have no idea how tacky Japanese YouTube is. It's like early 2010s YouTube mixed with their annoying daytime variety shows.
Most of his old advice videos are stream clips. He was never great at marketing himself but the past year or so he's been getting more polished, so it's probably just a result of him trying harder on that front.
He's got kids now and last time I saw him stream he talked about wanting to move to a bigger house so he's proabbly looking to get a more steady stream of income from YouTube. Being an animation jobber is hard work.

>> No.6650387

>look back on old work
hey i'm doing pretty well
>read a single manga
i'm the worst artist alive

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6650395

Anyone else automatically, non-sexually, hold their junk while drawing?
For some reason that's the default position I eventually fall into when I get into the zone.

>> No.6650400

>>6650395
Holding your junk is default position for alot of guys when they get comfortable, as a matter of fact I had to pull my hand out to type this.

>> No.6650590

>>6650395
I put my kururun in front of me at all times so instead of squeezing my junk I squeeze my stuffed seal fairy.

>> No.6650628

I think I need adhd meds or something. I'm 28, graduated, capable of a shit ton of stuff in my respective field but I can never stick to anything long enough to get it completed. I've spent the last year trying to transition away from 3D work to 2D work in hopes that quicker turnover rates for projects will help me get to end goals but it seems even with 2D I get very fixated and always find reasons to get out of my chair and not get the work done. I really can't function this way anymore. I've given up, I'll fucking take the meds if thats what it takes to survive.

>> No.6650647

>>6650628
Drink more water and eat more vegetables.

>> No.6650651

>>6650590
based tropicalGOD

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6650904

>got home from work and ate lunch
>was so tired I just couldn't stay up, slept to 8PM
>had dinner
>in bed by 9PM
>Woke up today at 5AM
And I'm still tired and feel like shit
What a worthless life I fucking live

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>>6650904
Welcome, Brøther. Coffee is your best friend, fren. As long as you don't abuse it, the caffeinated jew will not abuse you. Currently on my third cup today just so I can feel like normal, pray for me.

>> No.6651021

>>6650919
I drink so much coffee that every time I pull out my credit or debit card or ID i look guilty of something because my hands are shaking.

>> No.6651026

>>6651021
https://youtu.be/QZpy9r_KXqc

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6651090

what's the frazettapill?

>> No.6651106

>>6647745
How is it different than getting red line and feedback if the goal is copy the results and not just use them as your own?

This method is the only good use for AI it's like getting a skilled artist to give some advice on what you've drawn and how to improve it

>> No.6651107

>>6649170
It's okay super J - people only don't appear to like you because your art is terrible

I'm sure you're a pleasant person though

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>>6649672
Pyw
It sounds like you are chicken scratching - try longer faster strokes or draw a rough sketch layer and then draw on top

Line confidence is something I'm still struggling with - I see art like pic related and even thoug these are sketches in some mspaint program I can't wrap my head around how they can do it

>> No.6652097

The original reasons why I wanted to pick up drawing disappeared and now I'm left with a habit that feels like a burden, I need some copium

>> No.6652352

>>6650919
Anon, I'm thinking you need to go cold turkey until you can reset. It ain't the worst coffee addiction I've ever seen, but your kidneys will thank you.

>> No.6652354

>>6652097
Oneesan was never gonna notice you, baka

>> No.6652527

>read manga
>this is the best art I've ever seen
>start doing studies from it
>this anatomy is wack
>these faces are never at 3/4 angle
>this artist isn't the god I thought they were at all
Maybe we really are all gonna make it bros

>> No.6652528

>>6652527
dunning kruger is strong with you

>> No.6652530

>>6652528
You wish begboy, we're gonna make it and you cant stop us

>> No.6652575

>>6652527
>these faces are never at 3/4 angle
That's generally considered as a good thing

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>>6635918
Oh yeah. I was watching a studio-tour video of Kim Jung Gi (Rest in Peace you magnificent bastard) and I felt so validated when he showed his dear collection of favorite art books, and he had a bunch of western masters among with eastern ones.
>Moebius
>Richard Corben
>Tom Lonell

I straight up paused the video to stalk the titles, art is a very multifaceted process, and I know that it's very possible to blend styles.

>> No.6652617

>>6647607
If you have no social life I'd do the warrior thing to do and move to a country with a lower cost of living, and live off my art.
Hell that's probably what I'm gonna do. I'm not making my dream a "hobby", no matter how much people try to force me.

>> No.6652618

>>6652617
I’m afraid of being butchered by cartels, anon. What 3rd world countries are safe?

>> No.6652626

>>6652618
They're third world countries. They're not completely safe. But they're not that bad either. Mexico is a good option with lots of places that are inhabited by a bunch of expats that make more money than you anyway. Trust me, Mr. Cartel man doesn't kidnap every dorky white boy they see.

>> No.6652629

>>6652575
I see it as a sign that the artist is avoiding what they're not good at. It can be done, they just don't, and it's actually relatable

>> No.6652646

>doodle before bed
>oh my god what a cute face :D :3
>open sketchbook the next day
>looks like a crosseyed, human version of the annoying orange

>> No.6652650

>>6652646
May I see it?

>> No.6652716

Deleted all of my social media under an alias i had for a decade. I think I'll finally start over and work on a passion project like I always wanted to, and come back to be the artist I was always meant to be. Wish me luck pls

>> No.6652803

That Wii U Art Academy game you guise talked about emulates beautifully. Too bad I'm too much of a disorganized mess to commit to doing it.
Gotta get my brain unfucked

>> No.6652804

>>6652629
It’s the easiest angle anon, when artists only do 3/4 it’s a sign they suck.
The artist is probably making a conscious effort to avoid doing it because of how overused the angle is

>> No.6652836

>>6652803
The one nintendo game that should get an official ios and android remake

>> No.6652853

>>6652836
This but PC

>> No.6652857

>>6652853

I don’t think they’ll ever do pc releases

>> No.6652864

>>6652857
Makes sense.

>> No.6652891

>>6652716

I would delete an account, wipe everything on my device and start over on a vpn and it doesn’t take long for social media algorithms to built the exact kind of recommendations/suggestions and ads as the previous account. I think it’s better to leave up the account but don’t touch it anymore and go awol. Then come back with a vast set of skills and preferences so the all seeing eye thinks youre a different person. Good luck.

>> No.6652892

>>6652891
come back* on a fresh account (not the same one)

>> No.6653004

>>6652626
It doesnt make sense for them to capture white people period. They dont want the US govt to crack down on them and plus they make their drug money from foreigners. Killing them scares away customers.

>> No.6653082

>>6652804
This reads like bait that any child's art disproves

>> No.6653090

>>6652891
I am wiping all the wips that i dont feel anything for as well! I should also do the vpn thing, thank you for mentioning that.

>> No.6653167

>jap posts funny art
>gets 100k+ likes
>comments are in majority english
>it's all retards trying to be funny
>psychotic twitter humor under 15 levels of culturally exclusive context
>less than 30 likes on any one of them
>sensible comment in Japanese
>200+ likes
What the fuck is wrong with us? Why are westerners so obnoxious? Why are all the gifs and images they use so grotesque and neurotic and unnecessary? I feel terrible for that poor japanese artist who has no idea what the fuck anyone is saying about their work, because theyre all speaking exclusively in slang and alien acronyms. Imagine if you got nothing but hundreds of arabs in your comments speaking in arabic slang posting pictures that only make sense if you're a dessert dwelling muslim. It's not just the Japanese side of twitter either, it's some disparity between speaking english or not speaking english. It doesn't affect the art or anything but people should be allowed to lock their comment section or something Jesus Christ twitterfags are concentrated cancer.

>> No.6653218

>>6653167
>feel terrible for that poor japanese artist who has no idea

Holy cringe. And don’t pretend you care about the other side of twitter that isn’t Japanese to make your post any less cringe. The artist is hitting that text to speech translator on every post and likes on comments in any language can deduce whatever the person is saying is in good faith.

>> No.6653236

>>6653167
I don't know but you sound just as fucked up in the head as them.

>> No.6653255

>>6653218
>t.twitterfag cancer
Nobody understands your gay referential ebonics jargon outside of your sphere of western and westaboo meme addict troglodytes

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>>6653167
>world's sanest weebshit

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I'm so fucking lonely but my normie coworkers think I'm annoying and idk how to meet people online anymore. Drawing is basically how I get attention now

>> No.6654157

>>6652891
no point in vpn as long as you use the same phone number it will know its you and recommend people in your area or contacts

>> No.6654390

we invented shoes to make artists suffer
legitimately harder than just bare feet

>> No.6654401

>>6654143
Just talk although you do need a common interest and not to be annoying. Curb your autism and read the room and if you can't do that then study some normies interacting and realize that it isn't normal to bring up how long your pubic hairs are.

>> No.6654427

>>6619231
That's unfortunate, where are you from?
I do figure drawing often, the places I've been to have been slender and sometimes very young women, some of them were very attractive.
We also do males but the organization always complains about not being able to find enough male models and we don't want the same guy every time.

I'm not complaining.

>> No.6654448

I was upset earlier this week because someone one told me no one would every care about my original characters and that people only want to see fanart. That if I'm going to post online, only post process videos or finished (fan) art.
Sucks but it's not wrong, people are going to care about Nezuko from Demon Slayer more than OC #456. But even Nezuko was once just an OC until Koyoharu Gotouge established the series and people felt a connection, right?
Anyway this all boils down to I need to stop fucking with social media and draw

>> No.6654450

AI is good enough to crush all my dreams and hopes, but still not good enough to be useful at all.

>> No.6654452

>>6611177
I just use AI art generation for all of my needs these days. Pretty nice.

>> No.6654468

>>6654448
there's thousands of OCs out there from random artists but there are only so many with the ability to make people care about them either through webcomics, porn, or the dreaded vtuber artist route

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How are you guys coping with Ai?
I can't get it out of my head just how obsolete all intellectual/digital skills and work will become.
How am I ever going to get out of my shithole?

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6654553

>>6654390
I wanted to learn to so I searched and to my surprise, there's a pretty good how-to shoe guide in a fucking yaoi drawing book, it's called: How to Draw Manga Vol. 42 - Drawing Yaoi

>> No.6654656

>>6654448
unless u are really really good and can produce professional level at an acceptable pace pretty much no one is gonna care about ur oc

>> No.6654689

>>6654448
the difference between an oc and a character is that the character is actually used for something other than twitter like baiting

>> No.6654777
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6654777

I'm a musician interested in maybe connecting with an artist who might want to start a jack stauber kinda project if they like my music or think I might have potential. I asked /i/ if I could post a track there but I got accused of being "fred." Can I post it here? I'm pretty open, I feel like anything from grimdark warrior art to cutesy kemono art could work. I think it could be fun.

>> No.6654790

>>6654777
So post music then.

>> No.6654799

>>6654790
Yep, just don't want to become known for spamming or anything. I'm a good boy so I ask for permission
https://vocaroo.com/1czMKDoFbC1R

>> No.6654804

>>6654799
>I'm a good boy
LOL, Lmao even, I don't trust anyone who calls themselves a good boy.

>> No.6654806

>>6654804
t. bad boy

>> No.6654860

>>6654689
A character fits into a story
An OC has a story built around it

>> No.6654887 [DELETED] 

it’s to throw off the scent, idiots.

>> No.6654958

>>6654799
I dig your tune anon, but if you're looking to make something close to the likes of jack stauber with that frequency it just isn't gonna happen. Maybe it's just the one track, but your music is something to smoke to, it's not very lively. At most it would suit those looped "anime beats to work/study to" type animations. but if you want to make some interesting shit you're gonna have to start by putting some extra life in those tunes of yours. Pick up the tempo a bit and it'll spark more in the imagination than just chilling in bed.

>> No.6654987

>>6654958
Thanks for listening anon, appreciate the input. I think I like the tempo but I have been feeling that the first half feels a little empty, maybe I'll cut it a little shorter or add something.
>At most it would suit those looped "anime beats to work/study to" type animations
Yeah I think something like that would be good actually. I mean I don't want my stuff to be boring and I'll keep working on it, but I am trying to create somewhat of a relaxed mood that could serve as a movie soundtrack or driving music or something. I almost feel like an unknown spy type loop of a sexy fox girl moving back and forth would work if it had a vaporwave filter or some shit.

>> No.6654992

>>6654987
>>6654958
Also I just mentioned jack stauber since he's the only person/project I could think of that does both music and animation. I was going for more of a mac demarco vibe+early pink floyd with that track but if anyone is in any way interested i'll bend over backwards and change shit or cut things or make things to fit your animations until you like it, potentially. I just think collaborating would be fun. I'm a little directionless with my music, I need some goals.

>> No.6655029

>>6654987
>>6654992
In that case you can easily find someone willing to do some illustrations and then animate some looped stuff on top. I don't dabble much in animating, I just figured you wanted results more like stauber's work which would need more energy, but your direction is way easier tbdesu. Very achievable especially if you make some friends on the animation side of twitter.

>> No.6655503

Whenever I post a question here, or post my art I rarely get any comments or suggestions on how to improve

What am I doing wrong? I know I shouldn't post for (you)'s but I don't know any irl people who draw and I my non-drawing friends just give me a baseline
> yeah that's good
But no critique :(

How do I get more genuine comments to improve?

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>>6655503
what kind of art are you posting? girls in voids or floating heads?
ask specific questions. autists love answering questions.
Otherwise, maybe try drawing something that is way beyond your abilities, multiple figures in perspective and complex poses? complex backgrounds? what do you struggle with?

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6655604

>draw on screen tablet
>get sweat, scratches, and dust all over it

>draw on screenless tablet
>none of that shit matters, your display always looks good, and you can draw straight up without having to crane your neck at all

only thing that sucks is I have to use CSP and can't use Procreate

>> No.6655610

>want to make a manga passion project
>realize I’ve barely read as much manga than I have watched a gazillion anime

I mean, I read a lot of manga at the library growing up and on mangafox (when it was alive), but I never cared to track what I read. But I’ve always kept track of what anime I watched. But regardless, I’ve mainly stuck to anime. It may have to do with not being bothered to try to keep up with new releases of chapters where as with anime it’s a lot easier. Guess I have a lot of reading to catch up with in my spare time.

>> No.6655980

>>6655503
Either you're good enough that most anons aren't at a level where they can suggest much. Or you're so beg that there's nothing to suggest besides to keep studying your fundies.

>> No.6656326

>>6655029
>Very achievable especially if you make some friends on the animation side of twitter.
Is twitter the way to go? I've still never made an account, maybe it's time, thanks anon.

>> No.6656555

I was very down because I thought no one likes my art but I posted on reddit and a decent amount of people likes it. My mood went back up but I realized I need to keep improving. Still not sure how to make a following on Twitter though.

>> No.6656597

>>6656326
If you can find some circles of animators. You can try looking up some production team names of animated work you enjoy, then scour their followers for regular users you can get acquainted with and ask about collabing. You're better off asking someone who doesn't have that many followers. People with thousands of followers probably have pretty busy DMs and won't be as interested. I'm sure there's plenty of animators who want to do music related animation but don't want to get in trouble with copyright takedowns, so having the music artist himself to work with would be an appealing opportunity. Again good luck on your search

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>>6611177
>open up to instagram after a girl in my class convinced me to get an audience
>immediately follow people I know, they follow back instantly
>First post and second posts aren't art related at all, 3d models for gun attachment templates you can stick all sorts of crap unto with blender or something
>post loli stuff
>WIP of a young girl in armor with a spear
>WIP so I can tease and milk the time inbetween this and the final piece
>I like Child soldiers
>immediate mutuals send likes immediately
>get ecstatic when I see a stranger ask for a commision
>check their account....
>too empty to be human
>inform them I can't take commisions in DMs
>they ask again
>I reiterate
>they never talk again, just nothing
>at least have some courtesy you fucking twat
>next post, a study of giantdad in a greatsword fighting form, post as art because normies drool over studies
>immediate friends give praise and likes
>poojeet account with AI pfp tries to get me to post it to some account named art hub
>hold on I've heard about this before
>check it anyways, this is the majority of the content there
>Head shots of Shounen shit, naruto jujutsu kaisen, tokyo avengers wtvr
>AI shit
>Furries
>look at the follower count
>count the average likes of 10 random pieces
>compare to follower count
>something's not right
>nice try Poojeeto but I am smarter than that
>I'll give it some time, will take time before I net enough normies to make an audience
The social media game is a little infuriating I admit but on another note
>read war books
>Idea dings in my head
>write a play by play of a trench fight
>the aforementioned girl has a talent with her voice
>she charges a flat rate for voice acting
>2 choices
>wartime field medic GF comforts you as you battle for you life asmr
>an actual storyboard for a firefight featuring her voice alone
>she has such a range that she can voice more than one character
>pick the latter, first one is too weird
I heard collabs are good in the social media game.