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Welp.. /ic/, it happened. You can now turn your rough sketches into a high quality final rendering, keeping almost 100% of the original shape. This is not like those "art style" filters that turns a sketch figure pose into something totally and absolutely different. This is what much of us were expecting. Those 2 weeks went by, real quick.
I understand some of these threads are being eliminated, but these breakthroughs are important right now. At least we should be aware of this. I know a lot of people here that are wondering if this is possible yet, well, it is.

>> No.6604054

dont you have anything better to do? kill yourself

>> No.6604057

>>6604050
Neat trick. My drawings would only be made worse with AI so I guess it's not for me.

>> No.6604061

This has been a thing for a while

>> No.6604063

>>6604050
It'll get even better. It wont be long before you can pick your colors or make it add and invent things.

>> No.6604071

>>6604050
don't care, it wouldn't be me who did the pic. once again, it's like giving your shitty sketch to someone else and they did it for you. why would I want to do that?

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>>6604061
I know, but the examples that I've seen are not as good as this one. Controlnet would copy the pose of the subject, but not the actual shape of the drawing in that detail. Look at the princess one, it translated all the fucked up anatomy, clothes, hat, face size, everything, from the original real drawing, it didn't deviated from it. To me that's just amazing.
I knew it was eventually all about tinkering with the controlnet options, but it is still shocking to actually see it happening.
Some more details in picrel

>> No.6604075

>>6604071
Maybe it is not about you "wanting" to do it, but more like "in need" to do it. A tool it's just a tool.

>> No.6604077

>STOP FUCKING DRAWING!!!IT’S OV-
no

>> No.6604084

>>6604077
On the contrary, what this tool does is to give you the drawing option now, instead of prompting everything, wich we all hate here.

>> No.6604088

>>6604050
>hands still as fucked up as ever
>small details are still melty garbage
>backgrounds still make no sense
>"high quality final rendering"

>> No.6604089

>>6604073
Again it has been around for months, just use canny/scribble/depth instead of open pose and you could have the result more reducted to the original input.

>> No.6604091

>>6604084
The question is why you would need this "tool" when you have the skill and knowledge to do it yourself while remaining closer to your inner vision.

All this does is empower prebegs to spam pixiv with more of their garbage because all of them are special snowflakes craving praise and attention.

>> No.6604094

>>6604091
>The question is why you would need this "tool" when you have the skill and knowledge to do it yourself while remaining closer to your inner vision.
Because they are lazy and don't actually like doing art.

>> No.6604103

>>6604050
Cool trick. But if I want to make something and actually express myself and my ideas I'm just not going to let AI do that even if I'm terrible myself. Kinda defeats the point of self-expression really, even if all I wanted to express is how much I want to fuck my anime girl wife

>> No.6604106

>>6604088
That's what I'm describing here >>6604073 The fact that the tool picked up all those original details and translate them exactly like that to the final render is the amazing thing.
So now the thing can read your drawing very precisely, it won't change your style and original lineart wich is important for us. Prompters doesn't have a "style", they just write stuff, they can't draw. We have much more input control power as artists.

>> No.6604108

Pizdui pod Bakhmut, pidorashka.

>> No.6604110

>>6604089
Thanks for the tips, noted. But I've been waiting for an example exactly like this one to prove me that this very specific thing is possible. The stuff I've seen didn't convinced me like this one did.

>> No.6604114

>>6604103
All that is fine and good anon, but, to me seems totally unfair that prompters who don't know shit about art could be the ones taking full advantage of this technology, instead of the real artists. This is it, anon. You can use this. The better you can draw the more powerful this tech is for you to exploit.

>> No.6604118

>>6604114
I mean cool really. I just think image generators are not and should not be the end-goal of all digital art tools. I want more augmentative tools not replacements. I want my agency. Where's that lighting assistant for 2D spaces, or automatic perspective rulers, pose scanners, hyper-realistic posers etc.

>> No.6604119

>>6604118
You'll take your art beautification filter and you're gonna like it.

>> No.6604120

>>6604119
That's the equivalent of giving up your looks to an instagram filter. Sure you get clicks from it, but its not the real "you"

>> No.6604126

>>6604091
Why you would 'need' this? Only you as an artist could answer that question. come on man, you know already all these big name artists are using 3D software to create a template for color palettes, value and perspective, they render a crappy image as a guide and paint on top of that. That's been in use by a lot of big artists, (not photobashers).

The most important things of the process are the idea creation, composition/design and drawing. The process of lineart/inking, color fill, gradients, effects, etc, that's always the most hard and time consuming part. that could be automatized in the way you want, if it helps the total vision you have. Some artists are involved in projects so big that it takes a life time to finish.

>> No.6604128

Good morning sirs
Please do not redeem the drawing

>> No.6604237

>>6604063
>the final evolution of ai is just photoshop

>> No.6604258

>>6604050
The facial features and such a different? I was interested for a moment and thought they made something useful for a moment, just more AI schlock.

>> No.6604260

Can you go 5 minutes without making a cope thread?
We get it you aren't willing to put in the time to learn to draw.

>> No.6604265

>>6604050
okay, now go back to /g/

>> No.6604268

>>6604084
>>6604050
>>6604106
>we
>we
>we
>tool
>tool
you are a grade A nigger

>> No.6604292

The originals have soul.

>> No.6604314

It's joever

>> No.6604318

>>6604050
the colors on this make sakimichan shitty dull rendering look soulful in comparison

>> No.6604331

>>6604050
style & soul killing software0t

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>>6604050
This is actually becoming some kind of psychological warfare shit uh, just ike forcing two generations into believing that if you don't behave like a gangsta it means you're gay and you should take estrogens

>> No.6604351

>>6604347
I dont think its impossible to play around a little with the new tech but recognize that we need to finish our own works. I think AI is nice to give some ideas for the final product, but not to replace it.

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>>6604050
some anon already did that, what a shit show thread that was

>> No.6604359

I keep trying this tool and the results are just shit I'm already a boomer and don't understand this thingamabob. Otherwise Either my drawing is too shit, or this ai has been overestimated

>> No.6604362

>>6604359
Have a link?

>> No.6604364

>>6604347
It's definitely a psyop. the goal is to soften the consoomers and make them think they're 'creators' with AI, get'em hooked. It's also being framed as the next big thing for venture capitalists and business, and framed as a geopolitical necessity because "we need to develop this tech before China."
When the tech gets outta control with deepfakes etc. get ready, the govt. will crack down on anonymity online.
Digital currency is also being pushed for more govt/corporate technocratic control.

>> No.6604365

>>6604362
Just search controlnet image ai

>> No.6604367

>>6604365
Tried it, really messed my drawing. Guess Im better than the machine, after all. :v

>> No.6604368

>>6604364
Kinda makes sense if you look at history.
Current geopolitical situation is literally one step from disaster, so if we reach soon some kind of new roman collapse/dark ages/previndustrial revolution I'm, not surprised at all
All this shit just can't stay, it's literally a wrench in the gears of life. So humanity as a collective organism is going to stop and shit itself at some point

>> No.6604370

>>6604050
imagine if OP spend his time and energy on drawing instead of being an AIcuck he might be able to shit out something decent

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ok

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>>6604347
>>6604364
NOT SO FAST STUPID MACHINE. You won't be seeing shit now you fuck cyborg!

>> No.6604375

>>6604050
And the faggot instead of using it to make his art, he posts the end result slop straight from the AI and gets laughed at.

> The threads are getting deleted
Lol

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I remember this from that thread. Like this is just the equivalent of tracing and then photobashing someone else's rendering style

>> No.6604400

>>6604375
What the fuck is happening here, actually?
Why every fucking AIshit thread stays up forever?

>> No.6604404

>>6604260
I don't ever make threads
>>6604265
I'm a /c/ bro
>>6604268
I'm not a nigger
>>6604347
>>6604364
>>6604370
>>6604375
I made this thread with the best of intentions in mind. I know it can be deleted because of the theme.

>> No.6604435

>>6604404
>I made this thread with the best of intentions in mind
Keep lying you no-draw shitter

>> No.6604442

>>6604404
get a load of this niggerfaggot

>> No.6604629
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6604629

>>6604404
>made this thread with the best of intentions
Legit

>> No.6604645

>>6604400
Someone should make an image board that's actually devoted to drawing/painting discussion and critique. This place is complete and utter shit because mods and jannies allow AI trolling to continue unabated, and many well-meaning posters here are stupid enough to take the bait and feed the trolls. They are laughing at you, you fucking morons.

>> No.6604665

>>6604645
taking the bait means nothing when these retards are so mentally ill as to spend their time 24/7 spamming ceaselessly. the solution is for jannies to stop being worthless, or for someone to put a bullet in the skulls of these bugmen

>> No.6604671

>>6604629
God I hate bugmen.

>> No.6604672

>>6604050
HOLY SHIT, I'm not beg anymore. Well rendered lolis here I go!!

>> No.6604678

>>6604665
The AI shills don't even believe what they're saying. That is obvious to any well-adjusted adult, but this place is filled with mentally ill autists who are easily triggered. That's what makes it so enticing to the AI shills.

That said, I agree that all AI threads should be deleted, and even throwaway AI troll posts within non-AI threads should be deleted, and the people who post them banned.

>> No.6604682

>>6604678
>banned
whew, my 3 day ban went so fast it felt like 2 clicks

>> No.6604708

>>6604682
You'll still never know a woman's touch.

>> No.6604711

>>6604050
This looks worse than fiverr art

>> No.6604713

>>6604629
Gives me the same energy as that redditor who said they made it sport paying money to use auto updooters to get people banned. Why are they like this?

>> No.6604716

>>6604711
You saying he shouldn't even use sketches?

>> No.6604725

>>6604716
He should do whatever he wants.

>> No.6604726

wow ai is so cool

>> No.6604741

>>6604726
It really is

>> No.6604742

>>6604050
Good morning sirs
>pencil drawings have 5 fingers on the hands
>ai slop has 6 or 7 fingers on the hands

>> No.6604758

>>6604106
>won't change your style
Are you blind?

>> No.6604760

>>6604050
I tried doing something like this but it only makes grayscale art. What they did to make these sketches colored?

>> No.6604767

>>6604760
Download chinese malware

>> No.6604769
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>>6604050
pretty cool

>> No.6604779

Since this is a designated shitting thread, I really do wonder how far these niggers will go. I looked over at another stable Diffusion thread and saw that somebody was shilling a model trained on an artist I'd never heard of.
>he's an internet porn artist
>he's only making like $130 a month from patreon
>some AInigger makes a picture shitter using his work, presumably to try to fuck him over
For all the people who say "if somebody does this to you, you've already made it," they're disingenuous and full of shit; it's not just happening to people like SamDoesArt, it's happening to random artists because of course it is.

>> No.6604784

>>6604779
Nothing is their limit now that they have the perfect tool for instantaneous scamming and harrassing.

>> No.6604785

>>6604769
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.6604788

>>6604779
sound great, we're going back to peak 4chan golden age

>> No.6604789

>>6604779
Is it as good as the KJG model? Kek

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>>6604050
it lacks soul & always will.
the utilitarian critics will swat away all discussion of soul.
i let them, by doing so they reveal they understand nothing of art.
soul is what separates kjg from midjourney, crumb from stable diffusion, bukowski from a chatbot.
if you don't get it, you never will.

>> No.6604794

>>6604671
Yeah this parasite was especially vile. I was there. Even wrote some shit to him before leaving the thread unread.
Pretty sure he's an actual sociopath.

>> No.6604798

>>6604779
Wait until people are required to post with a digital ID and all these scammers are exposed out in the open.

>> No.6604801

>>6604784
It was just baffling to see somebody pushing a model based on some not particularly prolific or highly publicized artist. You'd think they'd take a second to think about trying to "replace" somebody who isn't even making $150 a month from their patreon, but nah, who cares about the artist.

>> No.6604802

AI is inevitable

>> No.6604809

>>6604789
The examples posted didn't look much at all like the examples of his work which I could find, but that's not really the point, it's the intent

>> No.6604810

>>6604802
>pods are inevitable
>slavery is inevitable
>social credit score system is inevitable
>nuclear war is inevitable

>> No.6604820

>>6604802
The funny part is that it absolutely wasn't if not for the same kind of people that brought us things that made life incredibly better than before, like sex reassignment treatments, social media platforms and fucking sheep cloning
Sure my life is better than my grandpa. Thanks technology!

>> No.6604825

>>6604810
You can go to china or russia any time though. You're still free to get out of america. I'm really thinking about china, I'm too old for this shit here. And tired. Even breathing here is a struggle. I don't want to get old and don't even have some basic health care. It's scary what await us. The future looks grim, very.

>> No.6604826

>turd polishing is now automated
finally, the ai art renaissance is here!

>> No.6604827

>>6604050
I remember thinking “yeah, this is going to fuck over artists but at least it’s a few decades off from that point.” Now I’m not even sure what things are going to look like by the end of the decade.

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>>6604050
>commission artists

>> No.6604833

>>6604827
It's going to look like a sea of slop where no one can stand out no matter how hard you proompt your brains out and people will be addicted to sitting around strapped to a vr headset all day. The ones who aren't starving on the curb at least.

>> No.6604834

>>6604827
>be real artist
>develop a following
>somebody immediately starts pushing a model trained on your work and makes more money than you do from your art
OH SAY IT'S PAJEET
ON THE SHITTING STREET

>> No.6604872

>>6604050
>it happened
You're really, really late on this.

>> No.6604884

>oh no some random artists are using ai to become relevant ill block them
>oh no every big artist is using ai to stay relevant ill keep blocking them
>oh no small artists are using ai to avoid drowning in ai art ill block them
> oh no everyone is using ai and something tells me i should too but ill just block everyone
Hey, it's me /ic/ here. Irrelevant as always

>> No.6604906

>>6604884
>just trace bro

>> No.6604908

>>6604884
actually kys streetshitting subhuman

>> No.6604911

>>6604906
>>6604908
stop biting the bait retards

>> No.6604916

>>6604371
Based. Always appreciate your input in these AI threads

>> No.6604917

>>6604371
go back to 2ch degenerate

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>>6604050
>give normalfags access to digital art and art sites
>all they do is sloppy shit and porn and competing for imaginary numbers
>they turn the art sphere into an unbridled mess of mental illness and sociopathy because now there is money to be made by exploiting children and porn addicts
>they flood every art site with nothing but porn and anime girls or the same overdone traced memes but with different anime heads
>only porn and sex get any attention and only that gets posted
>everyone is forced into porn or doing this same shit if they even want to see a penny for their work or have the chance of getting a job or gigs based on their social media follower counts
>normalfags develop and push AI because they don't actually want to draw and want to see the pretty pictures
>also because everyone will love the prospect of getting realistically rendered custom art at the push of a button
>now even already established professionals use AI to churn out content faster
>normalfags don't care because all they want to see is the pretty pictures and jerk off
>normalfags managed to irredeemably destroy and obliterate art in less than a decade because they couldn't sit down and draw without having constant dopamine flooding their air-brains
>>6604884
>Just block anyone using AI until you only see and interact with non-AIshitters
Unironically the final solution but artists can't be trusted to be honest or decent people that are pleasant to hang around even if their lives depended on it.

I'm done.
I'm quitting posting art for good since there is no point and any path leads to self-destruction or aiding bad actors.
I'll draw for myself, only draw for anyone else if i get paid since if they want it for free they can just prompt it now so what's the point in me even putting the effort to draw for anyone else and not be forced to interact with anyone just to keep up appearances.

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>>6604050
Daily reminder the moment you give into the plagiarism engine you're essentially commiting artistic suicide. This is what AI fags want. They want to drag you down to their level and turn you into the same subhuman parasitic enitity as they are.
If you scratch the surface of an AI nigger you'll find they are marinating in jealousy of real, legitimate artists.
Ask yourself why.

>> No.6604930

>>6604920
>now even already established professionals use AI to churn out content faster
I don't see a lot of this happening. The ones who do are now indistinguishable from every other average joe who plays with picture shitters. Assimilated into the grey goo.

>> No.6604934

I just finished training AI with my own art, can't wait to see how it goes

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>>6604929
Why would anyone be jealous of artists?
Maybe a lot of are envious of the attention and money the 1% gets, but what is there to be really jealous about? Historically, most artists led miserable existences.

Personally, I regret getting into art with every fiber of my being not because of art itself, but because of everything else surrounding it.

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>>6604314
sneed

>> No.6604956

AI is inevitable

>> No.6604963

>>6604794
>Yeah this parasite was especially vile.
kekd

>> No.6604965

HOLY FUCK I'LL NOW GET THE BLUEMARK AND START SPAMMING AI ART ON TWITTER FOR YOU ELON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqJKAnN0-gM

>> No.6604967

>>6604954
lol steamed hums

>> No.6604968

Reminder
AIfags tell people that ai will raise the standards for art and its gonna do away with degenerate work
but they mostly use it for porn
they tell rightwingers that AI is making leftists seethe
then turn around and tell leftists that its democratizing art
they tell artists that ai will help them
but are also telling corporations that they can fire artists
when corporations don't use AI they then get called out for getting in the way of "innovation"
AI shills talk about how easy making AI is
but then talk like prompting is something only a select people can do
they talk about how much they hate artists and how useless they are, but do everything to be included in artist circles

the ai shill has no loyalty, no beliefs, no toilets, only hatred and greed

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>>6604935
And in spite of all the bullshit you're still here, pursuing it. A sane person would have quit when Dall-E 2 was announced year ago.
So why do these AI bugs hate your existence, as a nobody? Gettting no attention, making no money? Why do they still want you to suffer? Why do they want you to quit?
You keeping at it in spite of AI existing drives them so mad. The more AI schlock they shit out the more they wish they could be you. Because you have something that they will never have.

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>>6604935
I've never seen people romanticize being an artist to such an extent bro.
A lot of them also proompt some shit and insist that its hand-made, they actually want to be an artist in the same superficial embellished ways trannies want to be a real women.

>> No.6604975

>>6604968
i rarely see any ai porn

>> No.6604976

>>6604935
nftfags are spiteful against artists

>> No.6604980

/ic/ gets so defensive over this, it's pathetic

Luckily for us projectfags we still have something to live for. AI can't make the comic I have in my head, so I'm not worried.

>> No.6604981

>>6604975
that's a lie and you know it

>> No.6604983

>>6604981
https://twitter.com/ai_art__
?

>> No.6604985

>>6604935
This is the only reason I like these AIshit threads. It's sincerity.
Dude, you're like a fucking x-man in a world of apes. And it's not because you draw, that's just a consequence. It's because for some reason or another, you love art.
The other guy with the pizza is right, you know. It's painful, you feel like you did everything wrong.
Treasure that feeling. It elevates you far beyond anyone that's around you.

>> No.6604987

>>6604983
explain how this proves anything

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>check twitter
>https://twitter.com/ShitPostCoin/status/1645874680593813519
>it's the same img2img low denoise rotoscope slop bait again, looks even worse than before

>> No.6604991

>>6604987
where is the ai porn?

>> No.6605001

>>6604991
>where's the ai porn on my blog!

>> No.6605006

>>6605001
i barely see ai porn on twitter, 4chan and as

>> No.6605010

>>6605006
denial, a common tactic of shills

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>>6605010
>>>/g/92745370

>> No.6605029

>>6605019
there's plenty of lewds in there idiot

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>>6604969
I can't really know the concrete answer to those questions but I can assume that most of this is also pretty much a circus and nothing is as it seems; it's all trolling and shitposting.
Could definitely be just bots as well as to why this spam still isn't slowing down.

If they were really this bothered by artists to go out of their way this much, then there is something incredibly wrong with these apparent real people which leads me to believe that it's bots.

I don't personally believe in the whole; they must be jealous of you shtick. It's hard to grasp and comes off as a cope, especially regarding artists.
>>6604972
Yeah, it's unreal.
It's the same as women occupying office jobs with some made up job description but doing fuck-all all day except drinking coffee and juice or chilling in the relax area, while posting stories on instagram about how important they are for the company and the 5 minutes they work on the laptops which consists of checking e-mail.

I seriously don't get how people can be satisfied with such shallow delusions and call it a living.
>>6604985
Indeed, i do love art but i really do not like everything else surrounding it.
There is always drama and scamming going on.
Artists going at each others throats, lying, cheating, bullying and doing everything to get social media famous.
Painful, not really. It's rather tiring. I just want to draw and not get drowned by literal shit whenever i might post on the internet.

I want to talk about art and understand it better than talk about how to get followers on social media or how to draw the current thing to guarantee likes.
I'm not special, i just want to pursue something that fulfills me, but people, aifags and the majority of artists really make it impossible to do so since it takes two to dance.
>>6604976
NFTfags really believed that everyone would be dumb enough to fall for their scam.
It's always like this with scammers: they seriously believe no one will see through them.

>> No.6605038

>>6605029
you said porn anon and a girl just standing isnt lewd

>> No.6605043

>>6605038
The AI can't draw a decent penis that's why.

>> No.6605045

>>6605038
its a blueboard so obviously they're gonna only post softcore retard

>> No.6605046

>>6605045
where is the ai porn? most of the ai art i see isnt

>> No.6605051

>>6605046
denial, a common tactic of shills

>> No.6605054

>>6605051
im sorry if your feed is filled with porn from the algorithm thinking you're addicted to porn

>> No.6605059

>>6605051
You can post it here. Post a decent looking penis. Because most of the horrifying meat rods are completely unjackable.

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>>6605079
is that real?

>> No.6605105

>>6604050
These only prove that if your fundamentals are shitty, the final product will be shitty too.
They are basically the definition of polished turds.

>> No.6605116

>>6605059
Nothing makes drawn porn better than an alluring cock. Even straight porn. The classic "cute girl admiring a big throbbing cock on/in front of her face" being so popular proves it.

>> No.6605127

>>6604050

Even with AI help they're still trash... Kek. Thanks for the laugh.

>> No.6605134

>>6604935
Normalfags are stupid enough to think artists are getting paid to have fun drawing when the reality is, it's closer to a desk job.

>> No.6605164

>>6605134
Seething about commission artists is a thirdworlder redflag. In their realm of experience, some guy selling three $50 commissions a week is making big money, while in most of the first world, that doesn't even amount to minimum wage.

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>>6604972
Woah, I like what you said. Saved in based.

>> No.6605169

>>6605134

there's a reason why being an artist is often associated to poverty.

>> No.6605202

>>6605038
go to /b/ dummy. They are spamming 5 general AI threads a day. And /ic/ call this thread AI spamming. Bunch of retards.

>> No.6605207

>>6605202
I KNEEL 10/10 LOLIS

>> No.6605220

>>6605202
And still no good dicks to be found.

>> No.6605221

>>6605202
>go to /b/
You should fucking stay there

>> No.6605224

>>6605221
>>6605220
>>6605207
>>6605202
This is one of you guys right? >>897494244

>> No.6605229

>>6604050
Kind of defeats the purpose of the journey. You take this shortcut that effectively hobbles you so long as you’re dependent on it.
It’s a tool, yeah, but it’s a tool with the power to cripple you before you’ve even started the long journey of improving your skills and just simply drawing.

>> No.6605231

>>6605229
Using ctrl+z cripples you :)
Easily bough oil paints too

>> No.6605232

Good morning, sirs.

>> No.6605240

>>6605231
I actually am interested in trying out oils and acrylics again. Compared to inks they're a more forgiving medium since you can just layer paint,

>> No.6605241

>>6605229
>long journey
I wonder if that idea is even feasible today. There seems to be no place for "long" anything anymore. Today you better run, or you're gonna get smashed on the ground. I see what you're saying anon, but, do you see what I'm saying too, right?
No country for slow men. We're all Tommy Lee Jones at the end of that movie now.

>> No.6605244

>>6605231
NTA but even if ctrl-a is a meme it shows you’re still drawing and correcting your mistakes.
AI does everything for you and you have no opportunity to learn from your mistakes and improve.

>> No.6605248

>>6605231
Erasing has always existed, so has having an apprenticecuck mull your oils for you

>> No.6605250

>>6605248
Now we have AI

>> No.6605254

>>6605250
Yes you do

>> No.6605256

>>6605241
I only understand that you’re trying to shill a service for some goddamn reason and to some it might make sense if you’re there chasing clout.
I also see that once everyone joins in on the AI bandwagon in 50 years only a small percentage will know how to draw as compared today.

>> No.6605278

>>6605244
there's oportunity to learn and improve, but it's not drawing so naturaly you're not improving your drawing skills.

>> No.6605289

Adapt and GROW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGSx1kJw2_Y
Oh right, /ic/ is always 10 years late to adapt to changes

>> No.6605321

>>6605289
Video is literally an /ic/ parrot kek I bet he lurks and even posts assuming >>6605289 it's not even you

>> No.6605326

>>6605321
I've seen art youtubers say the exact same shit i posted.
Youtube artists really are the niggers of the arts.

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>> No.6605341

>>6605256
>once everyone joins in on the AI bandwagon in 50 years only a small percentage will know how to draw as compared today
Big if true. No sarcasm. I myself, don't care too much about this AI thing. On the contrary, I'm thinking the same thing you said, drawing (GOOD) will be an special skill to have in a future when everything is fake and digital. And no one could do it. It will be like a magic trick of sorts. I like the idea.

>> No.6605347

>>6605341
You wouldn't draw (GOOD) without digital tools in a thousand years

>> No.6605351

>>6605347
Fundies transfer over to any artistic medium. A digital artist can easily move to a traditional medium in a few months of training. A traditional artist can immediately jump in provided he's familiar with how to use a computer.
https://youtu.be/6sG13bf-Wmw
https://youtu.be/HJ0Ispb7Wj4

>> No.6605353

>>6605351
I didn't know you were a youtuber, too bad influencers aren't artists but the scum to rot teens brains

>> No.6605355

>>6605353
Yes. I am both black and white at the same time.

>> No.6605362

>>6605355
Look at the palm of your hand, should be white there

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>>6605327
>using AI as a replacement for the natural capabilities you have locked up inside of you instead of putting in the sweat and hard work and knowing the ultimate satisfaction of overcoming yourself and surpassing your own perceived limitations to become a master of your own soul.

This applies to more than just art, btw. How far you want to take that self mastery is entirely up to you.

>> No.6605382

>>6605362
It's yellowish-brownish-white-pink

>> No.6605384

>>6605382
Thats white skin description

>> No.6605391

>>6604050
Not an artist? Those have the worst of both worlds, the shit skill and the AI "style". It's ugly. And artists will soon realize using it as reference quickly destroys their natural talents

>> No.6605397

>>6604353
Wow it ruined already mediocre art.

>> No.6605398

>>6605391
Again. For the millionth time.. That's why I choosed this example. Because it shows how the AI imitates the shitty style of the original drawings. That's the whole point.
If you're good, that's a very powerful feature, it will translate your style, lineart and gesture almost exactly.

>> No.6605401

>>6604126
Yeah those trash marvel movies that are an insult to creativity, they can go with ai, might improve the art a tad by accident.

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>>6605256
>only a small percentage will know how to draw
This is where knowing some art history is instructive. The "death of drawing & painting" has been pronounced multiple times in the arts (due to technological advances and trends like conceptual, performance art & installations), yet people still draw and paint.

>> No.6605417

>>6604802
If AI can't drive a truck it can't make art. It can drive well enough until it crashes and burns. Same with pictures. The second this permeates the market and looks all the same the demand to make it look different quickly results in human artists being needed more than ever.

>> No.6605422

>>6605407
Of course, though a change of medium is incomparable to an end-to-end service where all you need is a prompt and a complete product is spat out the other end.

>> No.6605427

>>6605398
>choosed

>> No.6605452

>>6605417
>choosed
Can you name an example when a faster production method was abandoned in favor of an earlier, slower and less productive one?
It seems that our western economic system never does that. Like ever.

>> No.6605455

>>6605422
What is photography then but an end product

>> No.6605656

>>6605398
you just need to be half blind!

>> No.6605659

>>6605452
art isn't a commodity, golem

>> No.6605666

>>6605452
>art should be about how fast you can produce it. the more art you produce, the more valuable it becomes
notice how there were already discussions of oversaturation of art before "AI". what next, we should switch from gold to pyrite that we'll all be rich? :) that's what retards like you do not understand with their shit comparisons regarding horses, agriculture, socks, pizzas. you do not compare luxuries with commodities as the other anon told you. it's actually unfathomable that you are so pants on head retarded to still make this comparison. you don't do this, because it makes art worthless. it's not progress, it's regress. it's progress from a technological point of view, but a regress from an art point of view. the reason you don't get it is that you view art as nothing more than a picture you look at for 3 seconds, and then you close it. the more rendered it is, the better it is in your eyes, like thinking that shit is pretty because it has some fondant on it

>> No.6605668

>>6605289
nothing spells growing more than using a "tool" that gives you less control over the output and doesn't teach you jack shit about how things are supposed to look, because you have no experience with understanding their shapes and perspective. unless you find a method to enhance the human mind directly, this subject is out of discussion. just like you'll never learn to argue with someone if you keep asking chatgpt to generate you a nonsensical answer that doesn't even touch the subject

>> No.6605670

>>6605278
when you learn how to draw, you're not improving just "motor skills" and the motion of drawing. just like how you don't learn to program by just memorizing syntax. that's the easiest part of programming, 99.9% is how you apply it. it explains why AIjeets start screeching about 'nitpicking' when you point out why AI is shit, since they have no idea what's wrong with the picture

>> No.6605672

>>6605670
I argue the reason why people want to get into commercial art industries is so that they can get paid to learn and then fuck right off once they're confident with their skills (including marketing). Sure most of it is soulless work, but you're not really learning art at all if you can't find time for yourself as you do another wagie job.

>> No.6605683

>>6605398
>it will translate your style, lineart and gesture almost exactly
Are you blind? You can already see it changing the faces into something entirely different.
I suggest you try it with a sketch by a professional artist with a unique style, like KJG. I guarantee it'll shit the bed or turn it into generic anime/westoid art.

>> No.6605684

>>6604050
It’s the same as asking AI to beat every difficulty part in Sekiro for you. It would be even more boring than a “god mode” cheat, because you wouldn’t be even playing it. Somehow, it’s considered fun for art, but not for games.

Well, if you hate art and only need a finished image, that’s indeed an option, otherwise there’s no fun, no experience, no sense of accomplishment.

I understand those tech bro that dream to be enhanced by technology so they could be real awesome themselves… but the majority are just fags that want to live in a pod just asking things for “AI-sama”.

>> No.6605691

Good morning sirs

>> No.6605707

>>6605684
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

>> No.6605717

>>6605455
The photograph is the end product, the framing, lighting, equipment setup, subject-matter, and color palette is photography. I’m not even a photographer and even I know there’s more to it than pointing and clicking.

>> No.6605720

fuck off to /g/

>> No.6605722

Guys, you're all in denial. All of you putting forward morality, "no cheating" and "inner growing". No, this is not a fucking videogame you will be playing. There's a paying boss up there that will be turning the screws on your poor soul, and he doesn't want your "soul", you can have that. What he wants is that fucking gallery of images done RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Done YESTERDAY even better. And if you can't do it, someone will. And you can kick and scream all you want, but no one will give you an special winning award for your "soulful fair play by the book hard work".
You'll be out in the curve with all your beautiful soul and your no cheat useless book of rules stuck in you ass. Guys, wake the fuck up. If some of you are going to take this path, please don't make it a living hell for you.

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>>6605707
>You experienced a hollow victory
But this is unironically what normies want. It's their ultimate desire.
It doesn't matter the sacrifice, all it matters is that they win so they can finally delude themselves in being worth something.

This is why AI is their most precious cop-ex-machina and they won't let it go so soon.
They need AI and incessant shitposting just to mimic a fraction of our power.

>> No.6605730

>>6605727
sovl

>> No.6605732

>>6605727
And it gets worse and worse over time as they settle for "good enough" slop.

>> No.6605736

>>6605727
Holy soul

>> No.6605738

>>6605707
man i hate this pasta. you don't gain anything anyway, it's a videogame. it's not actually a real skill. it's like giving people shit for listening to audio books or having subtitles on a movie.

>> No.6605744

>>6605722
If Mr. Shekelstein want 20 big tit anime girls shat out in a minute for dime I'm happy leaving that to Prajeet in Delhi. It's not a job I want.

>> No.6605749

>>6605738
I'd give someone shit for reading a cliff-notes of a book in place of reading it. Especially if they wrote an article about it saying they read the book. (where this pasta came from, some guy wrote an article saying he beat Sekiro with cheats because it was too hard) Hard is the point of this particular game! Games are art, an experience the designer is trying to give you.

>> No.6605756

>>6605727
AI art is a manifestation of the kind of complacency and comfort that Nietzsche associated with the Last Man. By relying on algorithms and pre-existing data sets to generate art, AI art may represent a form of creative shortcut that avoids the risks and challenges of traditional art-making processes. In this sense, AI art could be seen as a symptom of a culture that values efficiency and predictability over experimentation and innovation.

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>>6605744
None "Mr. Shekelstein" will pay for big tit anime maids, anyone gets that for free. What Mr. Shekelstein will ask you it's a whole sequence of designs in the style of picrel. Because Mr. Shekelstein saw that shit in twitter and instagram being spammed every second a new one. So Mr. Shekelstein wants to do a big game, or a movie clip for a game, or resources for a game, and says, "Jimmy come here, I want this, you'll do a whole batch of these things, I want a city square, a main palace, a mansion and interiors like this", And you'll say, "uh Mr. Shekelstein, that will take me a while to do, but it will not look exactly like that either, you see that's not a..." And Don Shekel will stop you right there "Jimmy, what are you saying? I'm looking at this being done like one every minute.. Are you saying you can't do this? Is that what you're saying?"... and Prajeet will jump right in "MR SHEKELSTAIN! I CAN DO IT" and he will type some shit on his tablet and give Don Shekel a render of the fucking workshop interior like picrel, And Shekel won't be saying shit about why there's two landscapes on top of eachother outside the window. He will say "Prajeet! That's exactly it! See Jimmy, that's how you do it. So, Prajeet how fast can you do this?" "I've done it already Mr Shekelstain sir". And you're out in the curve, kicking rocks, asking for meds, talking to yourself in the streets.."I was GUD.. fucking prajeets...fucking AI"

>> No.6605760

>>6605289
Hes not totally wrong but im not really interested in listening to someone who gave up to design websites for a living. I also worked at a AAA studio as an artist, I quit to make indie games. You should adapt but move up to higher levels of complexity, don't ever settle and make yourself a tool for a corporation, its worthless and you will be restarting this rat race for the rest of your life.

>> No.6605761

>>6605757
Nice fanfic.
No, not gonna use your shitty plagiarism engine. I like having my dignity. Nothing an AI roach would know anything about.

>> No.6605762

>>6605757
This is one of the most pathetic copes I ever read.

>> No.6605767

>>6605761
>Dignity
No one wants your dignity anon. It's all yours. You're a wonderful and sweet human being. May God bless you and gives you strenght for the world of pain that awaits you. Good Luck.
>>6605762
There's not a single milligram of cope in that description of reality. The cope is on the other side of that mirror. Fantasy land isn't real Sage. I want the best for you all. I'm trying to warn you about this shit.

>> No.6605773

>>6605767
>No one wants your dignity anon. It's all yours. You're a wonderful and sweet human being. May God bless you and gives you strenght for the world of pain that awaits you. Good Luck.
My life doesnt depend on shitting out stolen crap for Mr Shekelstein retard. In fact I'd rather clean toilets or whatever demeaning task you can come up with than ever touch technology that is actively anti-art.

>> No.6605774

>>6605767
>There's not a single milligram of cope in that description of reality. The cope is on the other side of that mirror. Fantasy land isn't real Sage. I want the best for you all. I'm trying to warn you about this shit.
cope

>> No.6605775

>>6605452
Literally every luxury product.

>> No.6605778

>>6605767
aaah here it is, the fake concern, the "give up, goy", nvm that mr shekelstein's return on investment is not guaranteed and companies are one social media campaign away from losing millions. nevermind that even the normiest of normalfags gets tired of getting the same slop and that picture has no signature style to it.

>> No.6605782

>>6605767
You're way too notably threatened by people not liking this shit.
You also have never worked a day in a creative profession, AIjeets won't be hired to proompt. The legacy Art Director that's been at the studio for a decade and got hired through nepotism will do the needful, then send it to a handful of senior artists for style correction.

Proomtard is not a career and never will be. If companies need to be so absurdly efficient they can't even afford Art Directors, then it's gonna be the graphic designer or marketing juniors doing it. Nobody will ever be paid to masturbate while midjourney plagiarizes the company's next ad campaign as a full time job.

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>>6605757
Large companies have their own lawyers to check if the company's sources to see if they're plagiarizing. Companies aren't going to touch AIslop with a 10 ft pole since none of it can be copyrighted and most companies like game devs/comics are straight up banning it so their submissions stop becoming flooded by Pajeets playing pretend. If anything it has made true artists more valuable since employers having to find somebody that can actually draw will be like finding a needle in a haystack full of shit.

>> No.6605789

>>6605341
It will be a very special skill, but these AI poojeets keep pushing this crap on us. Why? I suspect it’s got to do with making everyone dependent on AI

>> No.6605792

>>6605785
Wait, aren't multiple large companies already using AI art? Like Microsoft, Netflix, Adobe just to name a few.

>> No.6605793

>>6605785
>that picture has no signature style to it
Earlier anon said that. Of course there will be legal stuff in the middle. Mr Sheckel will take care of that. He even can pay for that "Style". This thing is happening right now, it is baking in the oven

>> No.6605796

All these AI characters display the same retarded vague expression. Can't put my finger on it, it really looks like shit.

>> No.6605797

>>6605789
Its peak crabbing to get you dosed on their products that ease all the job for you at the very expense of the learning opportunity which makes the next generation much much dependent on their technology. If no one thinks for themselves, the machine will and you will gladly pay for it

>> No.6605798

>>6605775
You are actually right sir. Well played. I do believe a nice drawing it's a luxury item. It's a concept that needs to be developed much further by our art community.

>> No.6605799

>>6605722
Go be a poojeet somewhere else. Nobody wants your AI crap except smoothbrained nincompoops.

>> No.6605800

>>6605792
Netflix tried to make a short with AI backgrounds, it even put a "AI + artist" as credit instead of a proper name. Weebs hated it.
Adobe is selling it not using it.
I don't know about microsoft.

>> No.6605805

>>6605757
Look, I get that you’re a third-worlder who probably lives in a small shanty in a favela, which is why you’re so concerned about making money and pleasing Mr. Shekelberg, but people from wealthier nations aren’t as hard-pressed about those issues that bother you. You keep your AI, maybe it’ll be of better use to you than others.

>> No.6605806

>>6605792
Those companies aren't scraping copyrighted art en masse by the millions like SD and MJ. The only reason this AI "tech" even made the big jump from 6 months ago was that they decided to go fuck it and copy paste everything into their dataset which is why they're getting all their money drained from the lawsuits.

>> No.6605807

>>6605797
Eventually thoughtless slop becomes the norm, your next masterpieces are astroturfed garbage, communities no longer exist due to the successful abundance of individual realities and the ones who were supposed to make something great remain unnoticed, reduced to a drop in a sea full of trash.

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>>6605717

>> No.6605810

>>6605797
Exactly. The grand scheme is to get us hooked on their AI so we don’t think for ourselves.

>> No.6605812

>>6605808
>@TheMouseCrypto
So this pretty much confirms that it's the next big tech scam by NFT/Cryptofags.

>> No.6605815

>>6605807
Not if AIshitters are violently expelled and demeaned by artist communities.

>> No.6605819

>>6605800
>>6605806
Seems kinda irrelevant. It's still being used by large corporations even now so why suggest it wont be used in the future?

>> No.6605823

>>6605808
Still dumbfounded how they can be so open and blatant in their parasitism and not hide away in shame.

>> No.6605831

>>6605819
From what I can tell, the Microsoft and Adobe AIs for art work more like filters and generally don't copy an entire artist's work that it's in their dataset instead of someone using Greg Rutkowski's name in their proompt for the others. There's a reason why those AI companies had to scrape millions of copyrighted work in order to be able to achieve that, because what you input in the dataset defines the output.

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>>6605806
>>6605831
I love the ,"AI steals work to function" cope statement. It not only shows just how tech illiterate most artists are but sheer desperation and cosmic asshurt they have. See creative falsely belived that their craft was immune to AI and machine learning when nothing can be further from the truth.
But feel free to try and find "copyrighted" work in any model, the level of delusion really makes you think. Here's a catgirl to make your day feel better anon.

>> No.6605848

>>6605845
Don't they cut the hands off of thieves in Saudi Arabia? I think we ought to consider this for western societies.

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>>6605845
>But feel free to try and find "copyrighted" work in any model,

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>>6605831
Okay but it seems just as capable if not even more so, I just made picrel using the Bing one by Microsoft.

>> No.6605856

>>6605845
why do you peddle a lie? the AI can't work without the millions of images that were used to train it
>"b-but muh LORA"
still makes uses of those for context, get bent. You probably shouldn't call people tech illiterate when you yourself barely know a thing about it.
>But feel free to try and find "copyrighted" work in any model
I would add a same speech could be made
about money laundering and painting it as investing in local businesses, only what's being done is data laundering

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>>6605845
>The weeb coomer is now coping that everyone sees him as a fraud.
Then why is SD getting sued for trillions? Also thanks for proving that AI can only make melted looking dogshit with fucked up hands.

>> No.6605858

>>6605854
>I just made
you've made nothing

>> No.6605859

>>6605858
Call it what you will, the end result is the same.

>> No.6605860

>>6605845
https://twitter.com/mfrankDude/status/1645850451760545792/photo/1

>> No.6605861

>>6605854
You might aswell grab a random landscape image from Google Images and say you made it aswell. Pretty pathetic on your part.

>> No.6605862

>>6605857
>getty looking to retire
smart considering the state of stock images KEK, i would too in their position

>> No.6605863

>>6605859
then shoot yourself, the end result is the same as you having lived a natural life. God, you utilitarians can't see farther than the tip of your browned noses

>> No.6605864

>>6605861
Well those 4 images didn't exist before and now they do, doesn't matter what you call it the point is it works.

>> No.6605865

>>6605862
I guess at that point, the AI companies will never be able to fix the fucked up hands. So much for waiting 2 more weeks, sirs.

>> No.6605866

>>6605863
That's not a goal I'm trying to achieve so, kinda irrelevant.

>> No.6605867

>>6605866
but you haven't achieved anything
>>6605864
>Well those 4 images didn't exist before and now they do, doesn't matter what you call it the point is it works.
>missing the point this badly

>> No.6605868

>>6605864
Don't expect anyone to give a shit about them unless you can post a timelapse proving you made them. Otherwise it's just like looking at the factory made art put on labels at a grocery store.

>> No.6605869

>>6605867
I think you are missing my point, that being the tech works and large companies are already using it, they will probably continue using it in the future if it keeps working. That's all I'm saying.

>> No.6605870

>>6605868
irrelevant.

>> No.6605872

/ic/ can't compete with a 10 month old free app

>> No.6605873

>>6605869
So where are they?
>Inb4 adobe microsoft mj nvidia yada yada yada
They're not "using" thing, they're selling "thing"

>> No.6605874

>>6605869
>continue
>they're totes using it to bits
every art company using it gets a new asshole torn so far

>> No.6605875
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6605875

>>6605852
>what is over setting a model/bias
It may come as Suprise that is a very proliferated image and it's not implausible among other examples to over train that data. Also that is the same concept as using photoshop or another application to create a replica or near replica of an existing work.
>LORA
I don't know why you are bringing up a LORA but suprise suprise there is also no copyrightable material in those weights aswell. Since we are on the topic a LORA is designed to work ontop of an existing model to add a particular set of parameters that don't exist or don't have the required bias.

>>6605857
>Getty images
>Suing for trillions
Hohohoohoho oh man what a riot that Getty images which is a great example of a unethical corp that sells images not of their own suing an AI corp. A suit that mind you is going nonwhere along with all the other bullshit suit by Ortiz becuase they nothing to base their case on. Litterally everything OpenAI, LAIOn Stable-Diffusion and Midjourny does falls under fair use and belive it or not is not anything different then a search engine does when scraping the web.

>> No.6605876

>>6605873
>>6605874
Using it also means developing and selling it.

>> No.6605877

AI can order pizzas now hahahahaaahahha soon it will order stable diffusion to create art automaticaly

>> No.6605878
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6605878

>>6605868
This. People tend to give way more attention when someone actually living is achieving their goal. It's like watching someone that can actually skateboard vs some fag just doing the same tricks in a Tony Hawk game.

>> No.6605879

>>6605877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JGfq2qqQ2Q
The future is now

>> No.6605881

>>6605877
Why stop at that? Just make tiktok with AI generators and you got yourself a billion dollar company

>> No.6605882

>>6605875
>>what is over setting a model/bias
look at this cope
>But feel free to try and find "copyrighted" work in any model,
nnononnononono! not like that! akshully!!!

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6605883

>>6605872
If going by Dalle-2 Midjourny and Stable diffusion which released aprox in Jully it hasn't even been A YEAR! Which is why I find it funny when screeching artists claim everything is stalling when litterally non of this tech is mature in the slightest.
Here's a 2b for the eventual robo takeover.

>> No.6605885

>>6605875
>falls under fair use
The Fair Use laws are pretty short. You might want to actually read them as it pretty much breaks everything under fair use law.

>> No.6605886

>>6605883
>Here's more melted features and deformed hands.
2 more weeks, sirs!

>> No.6605887

>>6605875
>Also that is the same concept as using photoshop or another application to create a replica or near replica of an existing work.
patently incorrect
>there is also no copyrightable material in those weights a swell
except if you feed it material that is, besides they benefit from the models that do so, get fucked?
>Litterally everything OpenAI, LAIOn Stable-Diffusion and Midjourny does falls under fair use
it doesn't pass any of the 4 criteria, the only reason you fags pretend it is is because you haven't had your shit pushed in legally yet

>> No.6605888

>>6605886
if you can do better you still got 2 weeks of coomissions, chop chop

>> No.6605889

>>6605876
nta but how does that work?
You can develop something and not use it yourself. I develop minecraft but play warcraft. I develop ford but drive a volkswagen. I develop smudge tool but am not an artist so I don't use it. I mean sure you can argue "you gotta test it bro that counts", but... I mean companies do this all the time where they find trendy shit to put in their product just to sell.

>> No.6605890

>>6605883
>broken censor bar
gave me a hearty keks, you fags stumble over yourselves, rushing any slop to prove a point no matter how much it works against it.

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6605891

>>6605888
Any artist that can actually draw hands is much more valuable than a thousand Pajeets and anime coomers shitting out their slop.

>> No.6605892

>>6605891
if you can do better you still got 2 weeks of coomissions, chop chop

>> No.6605894

>>6605892
Didn't realise I was talking to an IRL bot on easy difficulty.

>> No.6605898

Sometimes, I just wonder if AI people are appreciated in their communities. I do art for a fandom and its an amazing feeling that you have people there who appreciate you for the artworks you make, even if you work slow and steady

>> No.6605899 [DELETED] 

>>6605898
Check 2ch

>> No.6605901

>>6605898
Never mind, don't check it. We are fine without screeching retards there

>> No.6605903

>>6605889
I mean using the technology(meaning leveraging it for profit) not literally generating images.

>> No.6605902

>>6605898
afaik there is a lot of drama about "prompt stealing", "prompt walling" and so on. The irony isn't lost on me.

>> No.6605905

>>6605898
They're not, if you check /g/ all the Pajeets are racing eachother to post their AIslop that nobody else cares about but themselves until the thread hits the image limit which is why they have to shill on other boards. They're pretty much the autistic kid trying to fit in.

>> No.6605913

>>6605902
>promt stealing
Lmao I thought they were all about democracy of art. They are truly just parasites with no principles, no moral, no loyalty, just do whatever for their own benefit.

>> No.6605916

>>6605913
Those are artists

>> No.6605917

>>6605916
explain.

>> No.6605918

>>6605902
It's pretty sad because AIfags are proud that finally feel like they have created something in their worthless lives but the ironic part is that the AI made it.

>> No.6605919

>>6605857
lol they aren't getting a dime out of them
but I understand their motivation, stock image databases will be the first to go out of business once SD becomes really popular

>> No.6605922

>>6605916
Cope. You AI parasites get shitted on constantly no matter where you show up and that is going be the case as long as you bugs exist. Have fun with your down the toilet reputation.

>> No.6605923

>>6605919
You still lose a shitton of money from having to defend yourself from a lawsuit and Getty isn't the only one sueing them. You saying that they're not getting a penny is just you flat out coping that SD will never be able to fix the hands on your AI slop.

>> No.6605929

>https://80.lv/articles/ai-is-taking-jobs-from-game-illustrators-in-china/

I personally think many artists are in denial many lower end art jobs are going to go and they aren't going to ever come back when AI hit mainstream.

>> No.6605933
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6605933

>every ai image i see looks like shit
>wonder why everyone is panicking
>i am zen, unperturbed by this tech 'revolution'
>wonder why
>realize i don't play videogames, don't like concept art, and i was raised before digital art >developed my tastes on a diet of old comics, cel animated cartoons, and painted fantasy art
>feels good man

>> No.6605936

>>6605929
Depends entirely on what legislative measures will be taken. Few governments have even begun adressing AI tech. Whether or not theft is ok.

>> No.6605941

>>6605929
15 illustrators for a gatcha slop shop? now reduced to 10. Not sure we will see this as an actual trend for the industry at large for a few years at least.

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6605943

>>6605929
>no proof in article, just speculation.
Using AI art in your games is just going to make your games that much shittier and less appealing. Who are they replacing, mobile game artists that were stealing art in the first place?

>> No.6605944

>>6605941
I can see it being useful for churning out "filler" events at a very quick pace to keep their players busy with content until their next major one or the next big thing comes.

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>>6605943
How do you know it will make things shitty? I'm if using AI to generate textures it might just be a casual thing to do

>> No.6605947

>>6605944
But at the end of the day, you're just churning out thoughtless slop. Kinda insulting if you cared about your games creative integrity but not so bad if you despise your current job.

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6605954

>>6605946
>How do you know it will make things shitty?
Not only does AIslop already look like shit but it really worked out wonders for Grove Street Games to take the shortcut to let AI upscale all their textures for them.

>> No.6605955

Dude, stop. I was bordering on indifferent towards AI but this constant shilling and shitting up the board with “muh AI” “muh everyone is doing it” has me sick to my stomach and now I don’t want anything to do with AI at all.

>> No.6605956

>>6605954
You get what you pay for and companies will not pay you to do hand work if it's too expensive

>> No.6605960

>>6605956
Most companies care about releasing a quality product and keep a professional standard. Not everyone lives in a cheap third world country like you Pajeet.

>> No.6605961

>>6605960
And they can get rid of of half their art department give a raise to those staying and still keep their quality standard

>> No.6605963

>>6605961
I don't think art departments are huge unless its a marketing firm. Too many cooks

>> No.6605965

>>6605963
Half of 6 is still money saving

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6605968

>>6605961
Then how do you expect to sell your game if it looks like shit?

>> No.6605970

>>6605968
If their quality standard looked like shit to begin with then they will need to rely on gamepl- I mean addiction

>> No.6605971

>>6605970
Thank god you're not in charge of anything because you are an absolute moron.

>> No.6605973

>>6605971
Mobile gaming makes more than anything gaming, get your gaming brain rot in check

>> No.6606006

I hope the AI will shit on human creativity and devalue human beings to the point of making it okay for me to own sex slaves and rape them every day.

>> No.6606030

>>6606006
I like how megalomaniac /g/tards always think they're the ones ending up on top because they can use windows terminal or whatever.

>> No.6606037

>>6606030
No I end up on the top becasue I was born into wealth and privilege.

>> No.6606059

>>6606037
Oh yeah? Prove it.

>> No.6606082

>>6605878
It's EXACTLY like that.

>> No.6606086

>>6606082
Time to put our faces on the internet for everyone to see!!!
What about no?

>> No.6606099

>>6605883
Auto encoders are 25 years old

>> No.6606114

>>6606099
and planes are 120 years old

>> No.6606139

>>6606099
>Still thinks AI/Machine learning is sometype of encoding/compression.

If you could create a compression algorithm even a lossy one, that could take petabytes of data and compress to something like 4-8gb you be a multi-billionare overnight.
To put that in prespective, if hypothetically MJ or Stable-Diffusion did infact compress data that would mean you have something like 1/10th of a pixel for every image on the billions of images trained on LAION.
It cannot happen besides the fact that that breaks the theory of what machine learning is.

>> No.6606148

AI is inevitable

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>>6605875
>its, erm, its not theft, its a magic lora overfitting it doesnt actually store the chungus it recreates it, even if the end result looks 95% identical, so that means its OK
>its basically sentient so its transformative but also its a tool so I deserve copyright
>its transformative OK? just don't ask about the 3/4 fair use claws it violates
I hope every last one of you AIggers get the curbstomping you deserve

>> No.6606163

Good morning sirs

>> No.6606270

>>6605707
That post was clearly against AI art, saying that gamers worship FromSoftware games because the fun part is actually facing the challenges yourself. I mean, why would want to "beat" a game wihout playing it? Yet, the post says this logic isn't applied to art and people feel like asking a bot to do it for them is also "making art". No, it's requesting art to a bot.

>> No.6606273

>>6606270
Yeah, I don't know why people think artists won't be able to create art when AI exists. Just because someone might cheat on FS games that shouldn't make you enjoy your game any less

>> No.6606291

>>6606139
That's exactly what ML does, just not literally. The exact files aren't there, but it knows how to reproduce it based on the labels you used and how you weight them.

You can force AI to reproduce something it learned because it already knows the pattern to reproduce that image via denoising. It may not look 100% identical when the training is done and the model is released, but you can still get extremely close by using the right prompts, so close that it can easily fall into plagiarism.

>> No.6606301

>>6606291
>no, see, that's not dirty money, it's bitcoin, totally different. sure it was bought with said dirty money but it's totally different! why are you so crypto-illiterate bro? laundering? never heard of your fancy irs agent talk, irs agent are all arrogant anyway" that's how they sound
>inb4 "that's not a 1 to 1 comparison"

>> No.6606360

Talking about AI on a drawing board is like an idiot coming to your local football club where everyone is talking about getting into teams, strategies and physical habilites, and starts bragging about his pro gamerz moves on FIFA and how he is a much better player than the real athletes because of what he does on his videogame.

We get it fag, but it's not real.

AI is an "art videogame", it allows you to emulate what it's like to be an artist, without the effort or the skill, but just because you play FIFA well doesn't mean you are fucking Messi or that you play football at all.

It's a cute toy, now go back to playing with the other kids.

>> No.6606405

>>6606139
>If you could create a compression algorithm even a lossy one, that could take petabytes of data and compress to something like 4-8gb you be a multi-billionare overnight
https://fortune.com/2023/03/04/stability-ai-raise-funds-4-billion-valuation-artificial-intelligence-captivates-investors/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ2QtKcK2dA&t=625s

It's like a lossy screenshot of every image in Laion, stored in millions of different dimensions, not just as pixel color/coordinates, and not always stored in a format very useful for retrieval of the source images, but it's a kind of compression of data.
The same way OpenAI's GPT is like a blurry screenshot of all the text on the internet.

>> No.6606421

>>6606405
https://youtu.be/YQ2QtKcK2dA?t=622

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>>6606405
>It's like a lossy screenshot of every image in Laion

>> No.6606576

>>6606568
wouldn't want to compete with AIniggers now, would we?

>> No.6606954

Maybe understand the craft into drawing before thinking polished turd rendering makes art art.

>> No.6606957

>>6604075
What's the point of this mindset if art existed for eons, just look at what already exists.

>> No.6607135 [DELETED] 

>>6606568
it's a sentiment of machine learning experts. I didn't come up with it.

>> No.6607136 [DELETED] 

>>6607135
*I assume you have no imagination and took the word losy to mean jpeg. Not like that.

>> No.6607140

>>6606568
You took the word lossy to mean jpeg. Not like that. Hence mentioning ChatGPT, the popular sentiment being that it is *like* a lossy screenshot. Not *IS*. Can you not fucking read? Did you just stop at the first sentence?
>stored in millions of different dimensions, not just as pixel color/coordinates
That's latent space.

>> No.6607817

>>6605845
Nice thumb finger fusion, poopskin