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How the fuck am I supposed to draw scenes on my 9x12 paper without losing half that size to a perspective grid and drawing mini pictures in boxes? Am I gonna need to buy gigantic sheets of paper or switch to digital? How do tradfags get proper perspective without losing drawing space?

>> No.6601358

You have to learn how to estimate a perspective grid, without using vanishing points. Learn to draw da monke bars.

Also, use a ruler. That's a given

>> No.6601360

I posted the previous reply. You should click through this video and see how he builds a scene on a sheet of animation paper, using a ruler and a horizon line. It's in Japanese, but you can figure it out just by watching him.

https://youtu.be/juIQm7urgH8

>> No.6601362

Never mind, that's the wrong video

https://youtu.be/NthKfohZm1k

But also ,I just realized this is in 1 point perspective, so I'm a retard. Ignore everything I posted

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>>6601358
>>6601360
>>6601362

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>>6601351

>> No.6601380

do a small sketch on a sheet that allows you to have the vanishing points on the paper and then scale it up to a full size sheet
adhere the drawing paper to a wider sheet of paper or glued up papers.
or just wing it.

>> No.6601388

>>6601351
is this trad or digital, i can't tell

>> No.6601395

>>6601380
>do a small sketch on a sheet that allows you to have the vanishing points on the paper and then scale it up to a full size sheet
This doesn't sound ideal but it's a solution nonetheless. Thank you.

>> No.6601557

>>6601395
you can be quite minimal with the amount of details if it's just to mark out the perspective in the sketch, and for finished drawings, most start out with a sketch or multiple sketches anyway.

>> No.6601572

>>6601351
What's everyone going on about? Anon, just use another piece of paper after you make your sketches etc and trace over it. I don't see what the issue is? The final artwork is rarely on the same piece of paper as the initial drawing.

>> No.6601597

>>6601351
light box
t square and other perspective rulers so you dont need to plot
alternatively pirint a perspective plot and use as guid

>> No.6601601

http://gerhardart.com/blog/page/3/

Here is given a solution using tracing paper by someone who specializes in background art.

>> No.6601691

>>6601351
No grid.

If you still use persp. grid, it means you beg. If you beg, you should be drawing simpler stuff. Eg. Don't draw your picrel, but focus on a decoration of a column head, or a column head itself if it's too rich.

For complex scenes, skechbook, fineliners, and go raom local streets. Pick random spots, dont look for something nice, this is just study

>> No.6602403

>>6601691
>If you still use persp. grid, it means you beg.
Retard

>> No.6602568

>>6601572
i think he's asking how to get an accurate perspective set up where the vanishing pints would be outside the bounds of the paper in the first place.

>> No.6602573

>>6602403
Prove me wrong.
Unless for technical drawings, doing it by eye is far, far more effective.

And not just precise, but also better artistically: you want it to look & feel good, not be rigorously correct.

>> No.6602574

https://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/perspect3.html#table
You are welcome, OP

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>>6601376

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>>6601351
I just plot perspective with pencil on the drawing board underneath (which is a lot bigger than my drawing surface of course). I additionally put 3 movable clips with strings that I can "project" into the paper, which allows me to quickly set up to 3pp scenes without all the hassle of actually drawing a grid

>> No.6602782

>>6602568
True
>>6602574
Thank you. This looks like exactly what I need. Too bad I'm terrible at math and can't decipher it. I'll ask some smarter friends for help.

>> No.6602955

>>6601351
>How the fuck am I supposed to draw scenes on my 9x12 paper without losing half that size to a perspective grid and drawing mini pictures in boxes?
If you need to ask then that means you're not ready and should def start from a small A3/A2 size paper.

Which to be fair, seems like doable on a pic like the one you just now posted. You won't lose shit my man. Zoom in and see the type of detail you have in that pic, I see a ton of chicken scratches.

>> No.6602957

>>6601376
>>6602578
OP thinks he needs a wall to make this shit lmao

>> No.6602963

>>6602782
it doesn't require any maths, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNApTXL93Y

>> No.6603027

>>6601691
Perspective grid makes your shit look stiff and too precise.
It also doesn't match your vision or even cameras, since that shit curves.