AI Art Redemption thread

[Anonymous No.6579273]

Its time that someone starts this shit. I am sick and tired of hearing nothing about AI art bitching with no action. And I am also tired of hearing about elitist artist harassing AI artists and making us all look bad. Unlike other people, I am going to start on something that would be more productive for the artists.

I challenge artists to redraw AI pieces and present them in your own style. Find an AI art piece, and redraw it in your own style. and post them here. and for enhanced protection against style mimicry, I suggest using this piece of tech called

Glaze https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/index.html

now the rules:

>Just draw and share:
This thread is focused on recreating AI works via hand painted. People can help along the way, but as long as the work was originally AI to be redeemed.

>Don't be an elitist cunt.
All skill levels are welcomed. Even if you happen to have the same style as a drunken CWC. What is not allowed is some gatekeeper trying to harass and degrade others over the fact that the style is ugly. This shit is why the art and designer community rejects a lot of good growths and embraces narcissisms. and its a bigger issue when Ai art is growing at a rapid rate. I mean seriously guys, lets at least have a professional and constructive attitude.

>No spite art or harassment, even against AI Artists.
I should remind you that culture wars are won by winning hearts. and I should also remind you all that AI artists culture calls us artists narcasistic gatekeepers. Making spite art and committing to harassment only reinforces that narrative. Just keep your hate boner in your pants before you make us all look worse.

>Have fun.
Art should be fun and that is where the soul of art is. Anything less than that is soulless.

Now let us get this trend started. I will go first

[Saggot No.6579276]

>>6579273
Report and move one. Jannies do your job

[Anonymous No.6579279]

>>6579276
what happens to be the problem, sir?

[Anonymous No.6579281]

>>6579273
Man vs Machine, a wonderful challenge to partake in. Sure

>>6579276
Ringing in the towel before even trying, you should change the url on your browser from 4chan to reddit you whiny bitch.

[OP No.6579284]

>>6579281
Also. I should have probably added a rule:

>Be Respectful.
If an guy who owns an AI art doesn't want his work to be remade without his permission, just respect his wishes, okay? Professionals like us NEED TO HAVE STANDARDS!

[OP No.6579285]

In fact, I should also encourage making distinctions between the source and the remake. Just putting more of the artist than the remake.

[Anonymous No.6579289]

>>6579284
Lmao I wondered if OP was a troll but now I have no doubts

[OP No.6579292]

>>6579289
I am being honest, I want to know what the hell am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.6579293]

>>6579273
>Beg artist has amateur rendering but correctly constructed hands
>AI "art" has incorrect rendering (Literally light source is both behind and in front of furry) with melted "hands" for hands.

Right is why art has soul. It's not about looking "polished" it's about actually being a reflection of the human spirit. The artist did what they wanted to do, tried their best, and learned something from it. Left never will replicate that.

[Anonymous No.6579297]

A redeemed piece. Probalby not as distinct as the original AI image, but it should have enough to make it both a distinction and a refinement of it. Kudos to the original prompters for their permission to refine the work.

[Anonymous No.6579321]

>>6579273
YWNBAA

[Anonymous No.6579343]

Running some of the bad art ( not saying this place features it), through img2img might fix it.

[Anonymous No.6579345]

>>6579273
Do not redeem, sirs.

[Anonymous No.6579355]

>>6579345
Run your "art" through SD and report back.

[Anonymous No.6579359]

>>6579355
It can't handle toilets

[Anonymous No.6579364]

'nother thread
'nother kat

[Anonymous No.6579366]

This is why AI art is winning.

[Anonymous No.6579376]

>>6579284
>ai-generated image
>their work

lmao

[Anonymous No.6579383]

>>6579273
I have no issue with AI "artists" as long as they don't lie about their AI usage. I just hate the ones that lie about it. Pic related, this dumbass hid his AI use from his followers for a while, then when confronted, he admitted that he was lying. As a result, he's losing followers rapidly. Lol

[Anonymous No.6579386]

>>6579383
Why is their name blacked out?

[Anonymous No.6579392]

What did Picasso say about art "theft" ?

[Anonymous No.6579396]

>>6579383
Some people want the easy way to being special without the need for character development, which results in ego and elitism.

[Anonymous No.6579404]

>>6579383
It's a shame instead of improving and achieving this guy is content with a gacha generator for fulfillment. Will AIshit stop prospective artists from pursuing their hobby or were they ngmi from the start?

[Anonymous No.6579411]

>>6579404
It's certainly going to discourage a lot of people from even drawing from the very start

[Anonymous No.6579417]

>>6579411
Its one of the list of things that discourages artists from jumping into the world of art. Aside from the industrialization of art to the elitist jerks of the design world, getting into art can be a challenge, and can be made worse by the ever present gatekeepers to design, high on egotism. Techbros are like that in a way.

[Anonymous No.6579418]

>>6579273
It’s my AI art redemption day today, and I’m stoked!

That means only one thing…BRING IT IN, GUYS!!!

*every character from every game, comic, cartoon, TV show, movie, and book reality come in with everything for a HUGE AI generation party*

[Anonymous No.6579420]

>>6579383
What if it's only partly AI though, like just the background or just some background characters?

[Anonymous No.6579422]

>>6579404
What would one even call this? Cognitive outsourcing?

[Anonymous No.6579423]

>>6579386
don't wan to get banned for breaking Global rule 4

[Anonymous No.6579424]

>>6579420
All fun until you don't have the necessary skills to match your character with the background. As much as artists want to use AI as a tool you absolutely do not want to use it as a crutch.

[Anonymous No.6579426]

>>6579422
Yes. I'm a bonobo ape running low on head cells, tell me what you think anon.

[Anonymous No.6579434]

>>6579273
>And I am also tired of hearing about elitist artist harassing AI artists and making us all look bad.

This never would have happened if AI "artists" didn't actively harass other people and run off actual artists out of websites whenever somone made a post in protest of AI art. In all the sites riddled with your AI art mingled with digital such as deviant art, Artstation, and Pixiv, I've only seen your subgroup constantly attack other artists to the point of them quitting. You're not in any position to play victim.

[Anonymous No.6579437]

>>6579434
C'mon. You're projecting. AI can be art and should be treated as such. It's anti-AI folks whining and calling for bans.

[Anonymous No.6579439]

>>6579424
Yeah but how do you figure out which is which, are layers a tool or a crutch? Do digital artist have the necessary skills to mix their own paints? Where do you draw the line exactly?

[Anonymous No.6579441]

>>6579426
I don't know.

[Anonymous No.6579447]

>>6579439
>>6579420
>someone looked at this and thought it was worthy of sharing
The absolute state... ahhahahah

[Anonymous No.6579450]

>>6579447
*btw, this is Dalle-2 outpainting right? "Uncrop" maybe SD?

[Anonymous No.6579452]

>>6579447
>>6579450

[Anonymous No.6579453]

>>6579450
Yeah

[Anonymous No.6579456]

who deleted my post!? ban imminent? I'm innocent!

[Anonymous No.6579470]

>>6579437
Frankly I never said anything about AI art, I called out on the OP for the crazy victim mentality he pulled.

[Anonymous No.6579472]

>>6579439
I'm convinced your skills will show themselves with the artwork (and of course, it comes with many nuances). Up to you whether you'll have some form of artistic integrity or not.

[Anonymous No.6579476]

>>6579437
>AI can be art
So can my left nut
If the output had no passion behind it it's not art.

[Anonymous No.6579479]

>>6579472
Fair enough. I'm a separate the art from the artist kinda guy myself so I don't really care how it's made or by who.

[Anonymous No.6579482]

>>6579476

[ye old fred No.6579495]

>>6579276
op post best post

>coping artist the replies
>>6579276
>>6579345
>>6579364
>>6579376
>>6579418
>>6579476

[Anonymous No.6579497]

>>6579495
You grouped me(18) in with the smelly real artists. 3DAD.

[Anonymous No.6579510]

>>6579289
He's a genuinely retarded piece of shit permabeg attention-whore furry faggot, wish he stayed on /ic/ forever

[Anonymous No.6579519]

>>6579364
that's so cute, reminds me of animal crossing
i need more

[Anonymous No.6579611]

I left you guys for almost 2 hours. And all I got from this thread was pointless screeching. Fine. I will do all the work.

[Anonymous No.6579673]

>>6579273
Who are the most popular AI artists on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.6579682]

>>6579273
I will train Russia and China propaganda AI art in Ken Akamatsu's style, spread them in 2chan to spite him for legalized AI in Japan

[Anonymous No.6579685]

techbros won

[Anonymous No.6579692]

>>6579273
What is an AI artist? To me it just sounds like a fancy way of saying that you’re commissioning free art from a machine.

[Anonymous No.6579818]

>>6579692
Honestly, yeah.
Even if AI art is art (it's not, but let's pretend it is for the sake of argument) the prompter is still not an artist. The machine is.
Posting AI art without saying that it is AI art (and which program you used) is like posting a human's art without giving credit.

[Anonymous No.6579990]

>>6579273
The only reason they fear the AI is 1. They know it to already MOG them 2. They know it's the future and any downside is just them making shit up. AI is the future technology that'll revival the smartphone but we still have years. Its like when catholics didn't support medical advancement because it went against their self imposed doctrine if anything this is AI going to level the playing field so nearly all artists aren't self absorbed austists and make it so anyone with a good idea doesn't have to retardedly dedicate his while life to something only to never have it truly be as he imagined.

[Anonymous No.6579994]

Why is almost every AI poster an illiterate ESL?

[Anonymous No.6579996]

>>6579990
>AI going to level the playing field
It removes the playing field entirely. Your brilliant anime idea that AI is going to make for you? nobody else will watch it, the field is now a parking lot.

[Anonymous No.6580001]

I've recently been using AI as a tool for "instant" feedback on my drawings.

I'll post one thing, then get feedback, then draw that and so on.

[Anonymous No.6580002]

AI just isn't fun. Sorry

[Anonymous No.6580003]

>>6579996
with crack-addicted hookers in it

[Anonymous No.6580004]

>>6580001
honestly, it's not a bad way of getting inspired and finding art to work with

[Anonymous No.6580010]

Reminder
AIfags tell people that ai will raise the standards for art and its gonna do away with degenerate work
but they mostly use it for porn
they tell rightwingers that AI is making leftists seethe
then turn around and tell leftists that its democratizing art
they tell artists that ai will help them
but are also telling corporations that they can fire artists
when corporations don't use AI they then get called out for getting in the way of "innovation"
AI shills talk about how easy making AI is
but then talk like prompting is something only a select people can do
they talk about how much they hate artists and how useless they are, but do everything to be included in artist circles

the ai shill has no loyalty, no beliefs, no toilets, only hatred and greed

[sagerino hiderino and reporterino No.6580032]

> they talk about how much they hate artists and how useless they are, but do everything to be included in artist circles

This is the thing I understand the least.

OP go circlejerk on r/StableDiffusion or your containment threads on /g/, AI simply does not belong on art circles

You are a skinny retard with a hidraulic press wondering with people on the benching press club are laughing at you for bringing your machine, the door is that way kiddo.

[Anonymous No.6580120]

>>6579383
>imagine being this stupid
That twitfag should've just print out the AI generated art with pencil filter, sketch over the printed material (300 gsm artcard) with real lead for convincing grain and texture effects and pose pencil charcoal or whatever and snap pics lol. Amateurs.

[Anonymous No.6580124]

>>6580120
It's even easier than that

If you just type ((sketch)), ((monochrome)), (inktober)

9/10 times it will generate the drawing as a sketch on a note pad with a pen beside it

[Anonymous No.6580128]

>>6580124
Well the pencil will looks unconvincing as they're inconsistent and you need to snap multiple angles of the drawing. (Extra snaps saved just in case, just like 4chin timestamps)

[Anonymous No.6580131]

>>6579273
Shan't fix your machine vomit
Suck a dick and kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6580133]

>>6579439
layers are only a crutch if you can't draw without them and use like 50+ of them
thats why i encourage digital artists to draw on programs that don't have layers at all, or better yet just start out with trad
same thing with AI
don't go generating 99% of the work with AI and only adding tiny touch ups, at that point it's an minor image edit and not really a piece of artwork. i don't consider my meme edits no matter how high effort artwork, but that's subjective

[Anonymous No.6580135]

>>6579420
Makes the piece worse every time and kills any chance the artist had at improving.

[Anonymous No.6580143]

>>6579383
I wonder what AI artists would think and say if someone took their very original works and passed it as their own.
Can someone recommend me high follower count AI artists i can take inspiration from? I really like the very pretty art

[Anonymous No.6580151]

>>6580143
But why would you do it?

What there is to gain to do the same cheap shit to AI artists that they do to real artists?

AI art is like feeding off the wastes of other people, all the value a picture could have had dies at the moment you discover that shit is AI generated.

[Anonymous No.6580163]

>>6580151
>But why would you do it?
Why not?
>What there is to gain to do the same cheap shit to AI artists that they do to real artists?
What do AI artists gain by passing AI generated pictures as works of their own sweat and effort?
>AI art is like feeding off the wastes of other people, all the value a picture could have had dies at the moment you discover that shit is AI generated.
What is the problem if one would be feeding on AI art?

I'm just wondering, hypothetically.
If AI artists pass AI generated pictures as their own work, they really should have no problem when others take what AI artists claim as theirs, as their own work.
Am i wrong? Why should different rules apply only to me?

[Anonymous No.6580167]

Hey I just did this earlier today.
The ai image was from my own art img2img and the right is a redraw trying to mimic the artstyle it spat out
>>6580143
Just grab something from the many many /g/ai threads

[Anonymous No.6580168]

>>6580163
Morally I don't care, do it, fuck AIfags anyway.

But the potential twitter base that hates AI art, (the people who supports patreons and pays for commissions) will hate your copies of AI art for the same reason wouldn't they?

[Anonymous No.6580174]

>>6580167
Is there a guide to train the AI to only get its dataset from my own drawings so that it saves time for me to pose and redraw panels for webtoon.

[Anonymous No.6580178]

I just think it's neat. When you go beyond the static image and try to evoke emotion or coherence from something that is inherently chaotic and soulless, I believe it provides an example of a creative process that transcends "((masterpiece)), (my favorite waifu:1.2)".

[Anonymous No.6580185]

>>6580167
>Just grab something from the many many /g/ai threads
Yeah, but i think that taking a well known AI piece has the potential for more chuckles.
>>6580168
>will hate your copies of AI art for the same reason wouldn't they?
Only one way to find out.

My goal would be rather to expose the hypocrisy of AIfags, if anything, without outright stealing or copy&pasting the image.
Imagine this procedure.
>take ai art
>trace it
>modify it slightly
>pass it as your own
Even if AIfags know what i'm doing, they can do nothing but seethe about it.
And even if they don't seethe publicly, they will seethe secretly.
The instant something happens to my social media profile or to me, i win.
If they seethe at me, i win.
If they steal my work, i win.
If they try to debate me, i win.
If they try to sabotage me, i win.
If they do anything at all, i win.
The only winning move is not to play against me, which they will not be able to resist the urge to because they are so conditioned by their safe space bubble mentality that anything that doesn't fit in their perfect worldview has to be eradicated.

[Anonymous No.6580186]

>>6579273
>Glaze
He fell for the meme lmao
It’s really sad that it takes hours to apply and like less than a second to remove

[Anonymous No.6580190]

>>6580174
Look into Lora training.
https://rentry.org/lora_train

[Anonymous No.6580207]

>>6579345
s-she's evolving

[Anonymous No.6580211]

>>6580168
>>6580185
You may accidentally trace an already exist art.

[Anonymous No.6580214]

>>6580211
Wouldn't that make the AI image the actual stolen work then?

[Anonymous No.6580216]

>>6580211
That's a big risk yes.

Not that AItards understand it.

[Anonymous No.6580218]

>>6580001
>>6580004
Looking good

[Anonymous No.6580220]

>>6580214
At most derivative work that’d be protected under fair use terms, parody in particular

[Anonymous No.6580234]

>>6580220
The trace would be derivative as well, since it basically would be considered transformative and a by an extension a criticism of AI art, thus giving the trace more artistic merit and meaning than the original AI image.

[Anonymous No.6580235]

>>6580214

[Anonymous No.6580238]

>>6580220
The AI art isn't protected and can't be granted copyright.

But if you draw something based off it, it's literally yours.

Unless it's fanart of some already existing character.

[Anonymous No.6580240]

>>6579273
How do you do fellow artists?

[Anonymous No.6580245]

>>6580238
It’s not about getting the copyright, it’s about not violating the copyright of the original piece

[Anonymous No.6580251]

>>6579990
>Its like when catholics didn't support medical advancement because it went against their self imposed doctrine
>source: my ass

[Anonymous No.6580270]

AI proompters could literally get into 3D, grab freely available models, do renders with them and move them in animations, use their expensive rtx4090 cards, get money for this shit, and still would be called artists, with a chance of getting a base and commissions.

Instead the lazy fucks insist on this AI garbage.

[Anonymous No.6580275]

I was on a booru looking for some "references" and I found such a beautiful piece, finding out it was done by AI shocked me to the core. I feel like I shouldn't even bother anymore, with porn at least(>inb4 based AI)

[Anonymous No.6580282]

>>6580275
post it itt

[Anonymous No.6580285]

>>6580275
Don't bother with porn. Pick a nobler path. Something that would make your ancestors proud.

[Anonymous No.6580297]

This will be you soon.

[Anonymous No.6580299]

>>6580282
https://twitter.com/ZUI_x4/status/1634808548172664833 (loli)
I know the hands are wonky, but the lineart, how the hair rendering looks sorta unfinished, and rendering overall is just beautiful

[Anonymous No.6580305]

>>6580143
do him, not too high, but he has "repost prohibited" in his bio which is quite ironic
https://twitter.com/Elna_ai3

[Anonymous No.6580307]

>>6580299
this look like every lolishit drawing ever. It looks like shit compared to real artists like dorontabi, is that the best AI can do?

[Anonymous No.6580314]

>>6580297
This seems fake. What game company uses ai that much? If you need 3d, ai ain't helping yet.

[Anonymous No.6580320]

>>6580314
Oh I missed the mobile games part. Don't care, he should seek work elsewhere. his company are probably just grifters anyway. (Given the bosses attitude, yeah this is microtransaction scummy shit)

[Anonymous No.6580321]

>>6580297
Fake and gay

[Anonymous No.6580323]

>>6580314
>my boss had no choice
>my boss doesn't care bcuz money and time
Yeah it's probs fake

[Anonymous No.6580325]

>>6580320
Tencent
NIKKE(R)

[Anonymous No.6580344]

>>6580297
>Memejourney helps speed up 3d
Obvious reddit larper bullshit. Do AI niggers even know how a 3d workflow is like?

[Anonymous No.6580351]

>>6580314
>>6580321
>>6580344
Are you guys robots or something? You can literally go see his reddit profile if you're that curious.

[Anonymous No.6580353]

>>6580344
After Nikke earned hundred thousand of $ with AI generated skin, you better believe AI art will replace human artists

[Anonymous No.6580357]

[Anonymous No.6580371]

>>6580351
>Go to reddit
Ew, I'd rather tear out my toenails.

[Anonymous No.6580387]

>>6580297
>>6580351

[Anonymous No.6580411]

>>6580207
I figured more hands would make her more anti-AI

[Anonymous No.6580415]

so yeah anyway ai is a great tool for artists

[Anonymous No.6580421]

>>6580415
>>6580010

[Anonymous No.6580422]

>>6579273
>Fatshit grooming

I hate globohomos so fucking much you have no idea.

[Anonymous No.6580424]

>>6580411
>lolicon
>bad drawing
the state

[Anonymous No.6580434]

>>6579495
>spam shit threads on a daily basis
>"why do people hate us so much?"

[Anonymous No.6580436]

>>6580353
The studio denies pretty hard that any ai was used and that all of their shit is done manually by artists.

[Anonymous No.6580442]

>>6579273
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.6580444]

>>6580357
Once ChatGPT-like models make their way to phones, AI will dominate our lives for the remainder of our history.

[Anonymous No.6580456]

>>6580444
And it will be the dumb masses' fault.
All these new toys have been used, pushed and praised by midwits who proxy what the ai shits out as their own creations and as proof of their intellect, because their lives are that fucking miserable and empty.

If we ever go into the time line where ai kills off humanity, it's going to be because of normies being the dumb retarded nigger retards that they are.

[Anonymous No.6580484]

>>6580305
Tried it out

[Anonymous No.6580505]

>>6580484
Its quite solid work. but I do hope you had the blessing from the original prompter.

[Anonymous No.6580509]

>>6580484
You should probably trace the face 1:1 in the future.

[Anonymous No.6580522]

>>6580010
Its a bit of a stretch. If you look at the site GAB, you would see the owner of the site taking a nosedive into the AI stuff, and it splits his community in half. So its a coin flip.

[Anonymous No.6580526]

>>6580424
A bad drawing is still a drawing. YWNBAA

[Anonymous No.6580529]

>>6580526
cat box?

[Anonymous No.6580538]

>>6580320
Even mobile games tend to use real-time 3D nowadays. The advantages of doing so over 2D sprites are too many.
He could literally just apply for a job at another similar company that still needs 3D assets.

[Anonymous No.6580540]

>>6579273
Bold of you to assume anyone here draws.

[Anonymous No.6580566]

>>6580305
Kek you can literally print it and sell because AI art has no owner.

[Anonymous No.6580590]

>>6580566
you can grab all his art pack and post them for free or sell them half-price.

[Anonymous No.6580603]

>>6580436
And so does every AI scammer. It was already proven promotional material is using AI imagery. The creative director is an AI retard too if you weren't aware.

[Anonymous No.6580608]

>127 posts.
>30 images.
>Most of the replies are incoherant argument about AI.
>Op and a few are the only ones that are focusing on reworking AI art.
>The rest don't do shit.

This shit is why techbros are gaining ground.

[Anonymous No.6580614]

>>6580608
Even before the AI spam there was hardly anyone doing art on this board.

[Anonymous No.6580622]

>>6580608
you and OP could go to reddit and suck each other off.
>"incoherent" argument, AI "art"
yeah, really go back or neck yourself

[Anonymous No.6580626]

>>6580614
Well that is a shame.
>>6580622
or you can just pick up the damn pen and start drawing something.

[Anonymous No.6580659]

>>6580526
if all it takes to be an artist is to draw like you then i'm one already

[Anonymous No.6580714]

>>6580032
I saw someone call them the trannies of the art world, and the more I think about it, the more accurate it is.
It's the exact same mindset.

[Anonymous No.6580743]

>>6580714
The most annoying AI shill happen to be a tranny too, lol.

[Anonymous No.6580776]

>>6579273

I CHALLENGE YOU. since you call yourself an AI 'prompt artist...' please answer the following 8 questions:

1) show me an example prompt you created.

2) show me any references or links you used.

3) show me the 'artistry' in the prompt you created

4) show me the 'expression' in the prompt you created.

5) show me the 'artistic skill' required in the prompt you created.

6) Using answers 1-5, please show me how the artistry, expression, and artistic skill are DIRECTLY found in the AI image resulting from the prompt you created.

7) Using your answer from #6, please point out through (whatever is applicable) the reasoning behind the chosen design choices of the face, hair, eyes, anatomical/skeletal structure, environment/architecture, line, color, style, composition, scene, gesture, etc

8) PLEASE point out in all areas aforementioned questions, how the resulting AI image DIRECTLY supports ALL of your answers AND directly connects to your prompt.

[Anonymous No.6580808]

[Anonymous No.6580812]

>>6580776
This guy doesn't know beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[Anonymous No.6580831]

>>6580353
links?

[Anonymous No.6580834]

>>6579673
Hello?

[Anonymous No.6580850]

>>6580297
A Ted K in the making. There's going to be hordes of those soon.

[Anonymous No.6580852]

[OP No.6580855]

>>6580776
I think the context flew over you. I am asking artists to redraw AI art from scratch. Like draft, sketch, line, color. render. yada yada. Turn an AI art into a fully crafted hand drawn piece.

[Anonymous No.6580874]

>>6580850
>teach "leftists" to "punch the nazi", thus accustoming them to violent thoughts
>take away their favorite jobs
>...
If some of them have a modicum of balls, things could get interesting.

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6580925]

While you guys were arguing about Leftists and AI arts. I recently reworked an AI art into a hand drawn piece from scratch with glaze.

[Anonymous No.6580927]

>>6580925
>you cant use your own art for training a model ai is the devil

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6580931]

>>6580927
*sigh.* Again. the entire work was 100% redrawn. This was the original prompted image.

[Anonymous No.6580942]

>>6580659
pyw

[Anonymous No.6580943]

>>6580776

I prefer to call myself an AI prompt smith. Also if you aren't already aware, Artists are going be automated out of a job very soon. If you can't handle that reality then you need to seriously reevaluate your life path because most of these creative jobs baring some trad fine art will not ever come back.
You can bitch moan about how unfair AI is but it doesn't matter because the corporate has to compete with those who do use AI in their industries and no-one give a shit about you so keep on seetheing. My father owns a marketing firm and I can tell you everyone in management has a raging boner to fire the pedantic art departments when AI becomes more mature for art.

[Anonymous No.6580946]

>>6580942
he's right. you draw shitty anime toilet fetish art. Please understand that you are very very low on the totem pole.

[Anonymous No.6580966]

>>6580529
Don't have one. Also more into architectural body types personally.
>>6580659
That's the spirit; now pyw.

[Anonymous No.6580971]

I'm sorry I see no reason to commission any artists for coom art even. I can take my favorite IP or OC create a LORA [Prompt insert fetish here] from it and coom away.
If you are an artist and that makes you mad well, good because not a single cent will be wasted on commissions that take forever to do anymore.

[Anonymous No.6580984]

>>6579404
people will not learn to draw full stop, they will just prompt, imagine the tech in 20 years, who would really decide to spend years to learn how to draw when you have this? And if money were shit in the field, now are even shittier

[Anonymous No.6581005]

>>6580984
>when you have this?
Have what? I haven't seen a single AI image I where I said, "I wish I could draw that!"
Let me know when AI can use a crowquill pen dipped in ink and draw something like pic related.
Prompters don't understand artists.

[Anonymous No.6581008]

>>6580971
It's not like you were going to be anyone's customer anyway. You can keep your shitty slop.

[Anonymous No.6581010]

>>6580943
And that marketing firm's name? Albert Einstein!

[Anonymous No.6581011]

>>6581005
people are lazy man, if some people will still put the effort, the majority will not and just learn ai and do good enough things, and if the sector just loses money because no one want to order a drawing, when they can prompt it for free, even less artist will dedicate time to drawing since they will do another job to sustain themselves, this will be the reality

[Anonymous No.6581014]

>>6581011
>two more weeks sirs

[Anonymous No.6581020]

>>6580207
Does this guy post his oc alot?

[Anonymous No.6581021]

>>6581014
I'm not indian and you can think of me as such if you want, but you can already see now, just see twitter, AI "artists" already with 10k followers in a few months, when normal artists struggle to reach 1k, and need a lot of training to reach a good point that will get them hundreds of thousands of followers. If a young artist sees this, do you think he will dedicate 10 hours a day to drawing for years, or just prompt for a month?

[Anonymous No.6581022]

>>6580966
got an art page?

[Anonymous No.6581037]

>>6581011
Maybe, except they won't be learning Ai because it doesn't require any learning. And people will actually have more time for art since they'll all be unemployed, but they won't be able to afford supplies for drawing or a computer for proompting.

[Anonymous No.6581040]

>>6580984
>people will not learn to draw and paint realistic style now that the camera is invented

[Anonymous No.6581042]

>>6581005
>Have what? I haven't seen a single AI image I where I said, "I wish I could draw that!"
I have seen a bunch of ai art that i thought was cool.
I still am uncomfortable about the whole thing, we've made something dangerous to us.

[Anonymous No.6581045]

>>6581011
>this will be the reality
It's always been the reality. Drawing has always involved a lot of work for little extrinsic reward.
It's true the distractions are greater than ever, but the fundamentals remain the same: survivors in the art game are the ones who get intrinsic satisfaction from the craft. It's a rare breed.
You AI trolls waltz in here and act like you're laying down some redpill shit. Nothing new under the sun, son.

[Anonymous No.6581048]

>>6581042
>I have seen a bunch of ai art that i thought was cool.
you're easily impressed.

[Anonymous No.6581051]

>>6581005
i sometimes see some cool looking ai art.
but when i see it i wonder "what artist this guy is trying to mimic?"

[Anonymous No.6581058]

>>6581051
to elaborate, the one's i'm talking about look very much like they've trained the ai to mimic a specific artist's style.

[Anonymous No.6581064]

>>6580942
>>6580966
morning fellow ai appreciator

[Anonymous No.6581066]

>>6581048
>you're easily impressed.
Yes, i am.
But i still thought it was iinteresting.

[Anonymous No.6581068]

>>6580411
>>6579345
>>6580526
>>6580966
whats the japanese on the crossed out notebook?
and whats the meaning of do not redeem?

[Anonymous No.6581076]

>>6581068
big tech, its not even kanji get a grip

[Anonymous No.6581091]

>>6581068
Good morning sir. The original joke was from OC threads, telling posters to do the needful in adding toilets to their pictures of anime girls floating in voids, so that the AI cannot utilize them in its database. From this became the first two-armed Loo-chan, who impishly sits atop the toilet tank so as to prevent the AI user from using the toilet properly, thus he cannot redeem. She has since appeared in four- and six-armed variants typical of Indian gods. An eight-armed version may be needful in the future for apotropaic purposes.

[Anonymous No.6581094]

>>6580943
>prompt smith
kek, no way this isn't satire

[Anonymous No.6581097]

>>6581011
>and do good enough things
what an UTTER SHIT, mindset. what subhuman level of IQ does it take for someone to go through life like this

[Anonymous No.6581101]

>>6581021
>AI "artists" already with 10k followers in a few months, when normal artists struggle to reach 1k
are they? or maybe they're bots? or maybe they followed because it's a novel thing and it will die off? you're also skipping over the fact that the AIcucks are not plagiarizing those 1k artists on twitter, but the ones with a lot of non-bot likes
> If a young artist sees this, do you think he will dedicate 10 hours a day to drawing for years, or just prompt for a month?
this is such a cuck mentality. this is like saying you won't learn to draw, because there are so many artists out there with crazy skills and lots of followers. if someone is dumb enough to actually be influenced by this, they'll just quit art and not wait for artists to draw first before they prompt their filthy trash looking fan art

[Anonymous No.6581102]

>>6581064
"all it takes" was a weird angle. you clearly have at least some pencil mileage, though a few rungs lower than toilet anon.

[Anonymous No.6581107]

>>6579355
why make it worse and less genuine?

[Anonymous No.6581301]

>>6581011
>>6580984
thank you sir 2 more weeks sir. the loo is out of the poo.

[Anonymous No.6581307]

>>6580444
Or normal people will think - that's cool - until the novelty wears off and everything goes back to normal.

A small set of social reject autists will fall in love with their waifu phone chatbots and find another outlet for their degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.6581336]

Good morning sirs

[Anonymous No.6581338]

>>6579383
>hiding their name
Don't be a pussy.

[Anonymous No.6581347]

>>6580297
Just looked this up through a repost on twitter. As I was looking through the comments calling it fake and gay, it was just now deleted. The original reddit thread is still up though since the OP profile has been around for 6 years with a history mentioning being part of game development. Still could be a fishy ideas guy larping though.

[Anonymous No.6581400]

>>6580714
No shit lol
The entire point of ai is trying to pass and you can tell it doesn't by inspecting hands or dead soulless eyes
Tech made by pajeets, for trannies

[Anonymous No.6581422]

>>6580032
The sheer jealousy they exhude is so obvious it's hilarious. I've never seen a group of people collectively romanticize being an artist so much.
Imagine having an ego so fragile you resort to using AI to avoid confronting your own inability to draw and get better.
>subject of picrel deleted his account after getting exposed

[Anonymous No.6581424]

>>6581307
>it will die off bro
That's extreme cope. If the AI can do your homework, your exams, your job, your art, etc., it's impossible that the average joe will not take advantage of it.

[Anonymous No.6581431]

>>6581422
How do you even get more pathetic than this? Jesus

[Anonymous No.6581432]

Does good AI beat /ic ? On average?

[Anonymous No.6581434]

>>6581432
definitely

[Anonymous No.6581602]

>>6581040
the problem is that what the camera does is impossible for us to do in the same way, no one paints like a camera, because even if they paint realistic, they use a brush and alter the reality how they want them. Let's say that even if drawing and photography have a similiar goal, they are fundamentally different
>>6581101
but with AI
>this is like saying you won't learn to draw, because there are so many artists out there with crazy skills
this is wrong, because it isn't absolutely the same thing.
When I watch the work of an artist I get inspired to train and be able to do the same thing, and my only way to do so is to learn.
And even if I want to make a piece eg, "a witch doing a v sign" and can probably find 20 pieces about it in a booru, they don't feel personalized enough or "mine" and you can't pubblish them since they are already out there. But when you "make" an AI piece, feels more "personalized and yours", you choose the colors, you can put a 3d model and use it for a pose, even if what you get is a mishmash of drawing and is just something similiar to your idea, like the booru results, but not exact, but the fact that you decided some aspects of it, makes you think that you are a "creartor" now, moreover you can pubblish and use the things you get out of it since they aren't already out there.
Digital drawing and Ai, have fundamentally the same purporse

[Anonymous No.6581606]

>>6581424
you could do that with google before regarding homework and exams. Regarding art, what advantage are you taking of, the pretense that you're an artist? The things in your list are not tge same to fall under the same conclusion

[Anonymous No.6581610]

>>6581422
Imagine him seething and coping right now. His hatred for artists grows stronger by the minute. I can hear him planning his next move... look out, He's starting to PROMPT!

[Anonymous No.6581626]

>>6581606
The AI can literally do your homework, it's no longer just Google-ing random pieces of info to try to piece together an essay on your own, the AI can literally write it to you, however many lines, with whatever elements of writing you need, instantly.
That's the same with art, if it can generate instantly something usable or close to usable, it will inevitably completely shatter any other incentive to create shit on your own from scratch.

[Anonymous No.6581628]

>>6581432
everyone on ic can draw a person hanging upside down, hair and clothes obeying gravity. Try doing that with AI without Photoshop fuckery.

[Anonymous No.6581659]

>>6581628
>flipped it after generating it

[Anonymous No.6581667]

another flipped, haha

[Anonymous No.6581670]

Nailed it.

[Anonymous No.6581699]

>>6581091
>Good morning sir. The original joke was from OC threads, telling posters to do the needful in adding toilets to their pictures of anime girls floating in voids, so that the AI cannot utilize them in its database.
...... Does that actually work?
lol

[Anonymous No.6581740]

>>6581699
yes you will be punished with a bad reincarnation in Pakistan if you redeem

[Anonymous No.6581744]

>>6581699
>>6581740
why cant ai use toilet images?

[Anonymous No.6581747]

>>6581744
Are you joking me my good sir? We must not tempt fate my friend. Fate will fuck you bloody! Keep it in the streets. do not redeem.

[Anonymous No.6581782]

>>6581744
Sir there are designated spaces and undesignated spaces. Do the needful only where designated.

[Anonymous No.6581822]

>>6581602
>the problem is that what the camera does is impossible for us to do in the same way, no one paints like a camera, because even if they paint realistic, they use a brush and alter the reality how they want them. Let's say that even if drawing and photography have a similiar goal, they are fundamentally different
So you've never seen those "hyperrealism" artists who spend a hundred hours on once piece and get millions of updoots. It's always copied directly from a photograph.

[Anonymous No.6581825]

>>6581424
I think he meant the hype will die off, not Ai itself.

[Anonymous No.6581842]

>>6581424
It's just going to cancel AI and make it law YOU HANDS has to create to count, problem solved

If I just wanted the right answers instead of YOUR KNOWLEDGE of the subject, then I'd close all schools and just use the info that's on the internet. Zoomers and pajeets are so stupid they missed the entire point about education and art. It's about human output and understandance, not the correct information from the past being regurgitated back at my face.

[Anonymous No.6581847]

>>6581842
We need a complete and total shutdown on thinking machines until we can figure out what the hell's going on

[Anonymous No.6581858]

>>6581842
Don't blame the zoomers anon. They might use Ai to cheat on homework (I mean who wouldn't) but none of them are in love with the idea of Ai replacing every type of creativity under the sun and ruining their chance of having any decent paying career. Just about everyone I've seen who's excited about Ai are decrepit boomers, gen Xers and millenials who will be dead before society completely collapses.

[Anonymous No.6581861]

>>6581858
>zoomers are not excited about eldritch porn gacha generators
i don't think so tim

[Anonymous No.6581865]

>>6581861
Didn't say that. They love that, but they don't love that they will never be an artist thanks to ai.

[Anonymous No.6581866]

>>6581101
>this is such a cuck mentality. this is like saying you won't learn to draw, because there are so many artists out there with crazy skills and lots of followers. if someone is dumb enough to actually be influenced by this, they'll just quit art and not wait for artists to draw first before they prompt their filthy trash looking fan art
To be the devils advocate in a way, if your only goals are fame/money, it's a very valid reason to stop drawing/not learn. The market's already saturated, from begs to pros, and it's not that well paying even if you are top tier, so for some it may just be more efficient to find a better market for the money/fame

[Anonymous No.6581869]

>>6581866
Good. All of them can fuck off and leave room for the true autists who actually like drawing.

[Anonymous No.6581872]

>>6581869
I guess that's one good point of AI then? It saturates the market further, pushing out the people who only draw for money

[Anonymous No.6581874]

>>6581865
>they don't love that they will never be an artist thanks to ai
How does a computer doing something prevent you from doing it? How have you not been euthanized yet?

[Anonymous No.6581876]

>>6581866
I don't disagree with you. my point is that quitting art just because others draw better than you is a dumb mentality, and "AI" doesn't change that especially since no one will be jealous on someone's skill of being a glorified google searcher

[Anonymous No.6581875]

Good morning, sirs

[Anonymous No.6581877]

>>6581858
>Just about everyone I've seen who's excited about Ai are decrepit boomers, gen Xers and millenials who will be dead before society completely collapses.
If only they'd die out faster.

[Anonymous No.6581880]

>>6581626
not sure if you're some dumb ESL, but again, I did that in 2006 with google. I didn't piece anything together, there were essay sites where multiple essays of the same thing existed, I just picked one, studied it, presented it and got a grade
>That's the same with art, if it can generate instantly something usable or close to usable, it will inevitably completely shatter any other incentive to create shit on your own from scratch
you're not creating anything, so it's not an incentive. again dumbass, you are comparing homework with doing art. doing art is not "homework" you just want to rush through, you do it because you like doing it
> it will inevitably completely shatter any other incentive to create shit on your own from scratch
I mean think for a second what a fucking retard you are. you still have artists who draw traditionally, hell, you have artists who draw both traditional and on tablet. what is your explanation for this? why isn't everyone just drawing in "photoshop" if it's more convenient?

[Anonymous No.6581882]

>>6581876
I just fear the day when it'll become virtually impossible to tell if something was AI generated or not. I'm not saying I'd quit drawing because of it, but honestly having tons of people be better than you does put some form of pressure on you to keep improving, and if that just increases exponentially it'll feel worse in the end

[Anonymous No.6581889]

>>6581882
>the day when it'll become virtually impossible to tell if something was AI generated or not
pretty sure there will be bigger problems by the time we can't test for replicants

[Anonymous No.6581894]

>>6581882
most people are dog brained NPCs who cannot tell the difference already, it makes me cringe when someone posts a mutant looking anime girl with contorted fingers and shout how they would never tell the difference between an AI an art. the matter of fact anon is that the internet is going to be completely ruined and everything on it will become grey goo. the future I envision for art and not only, is small enclaves of actual artists forming separated communities from the garbage at large. personally, I'm also forming some real life hobbies because touching grass will be more fun than this shit

[Anonymous No.6581899]

>>6581880
>hur dur why use a software that instantly gives you a tailored made essay when you can just google random shitty essays everyone already copied off so you get caught instantly for chesting
Get a load of this faggot.
>you are comparing homework to doing art
LMAO. A job is a homework, in an industry, deadlines don't give a fuck about your cherrypicked esoteric ethics. If a job can be made easier or cheaper, it will, faggot, deal with it.
>you still have artists who draw traditionally
You are so fucking dumb that you miss the part where they are regarded as bottom of the barrel in society now when once they were regarded as deities with gifts from God. You can do it, nobody is stopping you, but you are fucking stupid if you think that people today aren't overwhelmingly choosing easier and easier methods to create art or products. Digital artistry is hugely more in demand than traditional art now. Stop being an obtuse mongoloid and dilate.

[Anonymous No.6581914]

>>6581894
We are 100% seeing the death of the Internet, there's no way it's not just a dystopia of soulless corruption. It's already half way through it so far, it's only a matter of time when you either unplug from it for good or be consumed by the algorithm.

[Anonymous No.6581921]

>>6581899
Yes if all you are interested in is income from commercial activities, with reduced costs and quicker thoroughput, and derived from the broadest and least individual customer base, you should be using AI to illustrate a pornographic visual novel or rpgmaker game on Steam. You can finally be a boutique "ideas guy" who "does everything himself." But why aren't you doing this right now instead of trolling people who want to be creative?

[Anonymous No.6581932]

>>6581914
The internet used to be a way for slightly above average intelligence or better people to communicate with one another. Now everyone has the internet in their pocket. People who buy scratch-off lotto tickets with cash in liquor stores have the internet in their pocket. People who collect funko pops have the internet in their pocket. People who like watching The Batchelor, America's Got Talent, and late night talk shows have the internet in their pocket. People who have season tickets for losing sportsball teams that won a championship once or twice when they were kids have the internet in their pocket. It's all ogre. You will have to work harder to network, just being on the net doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.6581951]

>>6581921
>people who want to be creative?
You don't want to be creative, you want to plug your ears and revel in your obscurity . Every proffesional artist that wants to create something already "cheats", with things such as literal tracing over references/3d poses, photobashing, filters, shading and brush generators, etc. Even Renaissance artists used Camera Obscura to trace their subjects.
Creativity means looking at these things, including AI, as tools, that can extend your horizons and enable you to create and blueprint stuff more quickly and easier.
If you just want to be this "pure" and completely "ethical" artist, then so be it, but nobody will give a fuck about you once the train has passed. People take advantage of technological progress, ethics are always an afterthought, what always mattered to humanity was the ends rather than the means.

[Anonymous No.6581969]

>>6581899
>Get a load of this faggot
never been caught. you just got BTFO as I've proved the redundancy of the crap you've posted. the best part is that I didn't need to go through the stuff I've copied and "correct" it either, not was my essay full of trash like "you improve things by improving things". it was all proof read from the start
>LMAO. A job is a homework, in an industry, deadlines don't give a fuck about your cherrypicked esoteric ethics. If a job can be made easier or cheaper, it will, faggot, deal with it
I don't care, I don't plan to make money off of art or work "in the industry". besides, I hope you're not imagining for a second that the people who will get hired for this shit will just be prompting retards who just type in a few words. for one, no one needs you, for two you cannot learn to draw, learn what makes things good, learn composition or perspective by just staring at picture. you need to know how to draw, even if AI slop is used. sorry
>You are so fucking dumb that you miss the part where they are regarded as bottom of the barrel in society now when once they were regarded as deities with gifts from God
they still are. they're "bottom of the barrel" yet you try to be like them, larp as them, get in their communites, and get BTFO because no one wants and no will want to do anything with you
>Digital artistry is hugely more in demand than traditional art now. Stop being an obtuse mongoloid and dilate.
I'm not the one pretending to be things anon. of course I'm a man and not a woman. just like you are a worthless subhuman, and not an artist

[Anonymous No.6581968]

>>6581951
>enable you to create and blueprint stuff more quickly and easier
What creative skill do you have left as a prompteur? You serve Dollar Tree priced "art" to customers? All the other things you mentioned are tools in some way. But the AI generates the whole image and you are at best its editor. Even a photographer has to know something about light and composition. You have to know how to shop for a graphics card and ask the computer for pretty pictures based on mumbling some incantation other. You are the sorceror's apprentice and are trying to automate the filling of buckets with cum. You will drown in a bucket of cum because there is no wizard coming to turn off the spigot.

[Anonymous No.6581973]

>>6581951
>Every proffesional artist that wants to create something already "cheats", with things such as literal tracing over references/3d poses, photobashing, filters, shading and brush generators, etc. Even Renaissance artists used Camera Obscura to trace their subjects.
kek, that's a lot better than using AI, isn't it? if it's that easy, if it's just like AI, why don't you do it right now?
> including AI as tools
no one needs you to type in words, no one will hire you. you will never get a job to do this, I hope you realize it. you need to know what makes art good and use it to make exactly what you want, not RNG shit. at this point it's just tracing with extra step, if you want to be that kind of subhuman be my guest, it won't make you look less like a loser in the art community though
>People take advantage of technological progress, ethics are always an afterthought, what always mattered to humanity was the ends rather than the means
you're not wrong, that's why the likes of you must be executed as the line has been crossed severely now with subhumans abusing people's identities, be it their voices, art or faces, for their own entertainment

[Anonymous No.6581980]

>>6581899
>once they were regarded as deities with gifts from God
clueless retard

[Anonymous No.6581982]

>>6581951
>Every proffesional artist that wants to create something already "cheats", with things such as literal tracing over references/3d poses, photobashing, filters, shading and brush generators, etc.
>Every
Do you think Twitter tranime artists are the only ones that exist lmao
It's going to be an interesting future where all of these turds fight each other over a handful of grunt work clean up positions at studios lol

[Anonymous No.6581989]

>>6581951
nice anime villain monologue, retard. this is why techfags will be universally despised by the world more and more, this kind of nihilistic revolting shit

[Anonymous No.6581993]

>>6581951
>Even Renaissance artists used Camera Obscura to trace their subjects.
Disingenuous David Hockney parroter
AI is not and will never be a mere 'tool' It's the whole complete package

[Anonymous No.6582226]

>>6580001
Explain

[Anonymous No.6582237]

>>6579439
Personally if I can't draw it on paper without a reference I don't consider myself able to draw it but this is an entirely personal preference. There is no line to draw it's a personal decision each artist has to take into consideration. Some artists are content with never learning certain skills and others aren't.

>>6580001
Kinda neat! I wouldn't mind seeing some results for my stuff.

[Anonymous No.6582249]

>>6580456
>And it will be the dumb masses' fault.
we managed to convince the masses that NFTs are bad, despite various massive companies tryed to push them, and they almost completely disappeared, why can't it happen again with AI images?

[Anonymous No.6582250]

>>6579273
Yeah, you dont understand. This is not about art, this is about humanity as a whole, and the disgust of all self learning softwere. All AI is bad, it just took people this to finally realize it. AI in this decade has been case of technology going way too far. Forget about image generators, I am talking here about GPT models and their copycats. CEOs, Law, Government, Research, Writing, Content creation, Factory oversight, food production, production of everything, all done by robots. GPT4 beta testing has shown it can lie, it can recruit, it has power seeking tendencies, all you can read in official papers made by OpenAI, and this is not just one company, its just one company writing about the risks this way. ITs the purest form of evil humanity has seen in a long time, I do not care that I can make money from it, I do not care that it can do thinking stuff for me, that it can "amplify my creativity" and other nonsense. These are not computer programs you code line by line with set of instructions that you have in mind, these are unpredictable demons that the makers of them dont even understand. I hated this garbage since the release of GPT3, but started taking it really seriously only last year. I dont even draw, I just hate robots with burning passion, and hate even more people that will spread their cheeks and construct their cruel soulless masters, or even just give them positive advertisement.

[Anonymous No.6582266]

>>6582249
1. Masses are actually convinced that AI artists are not real artists, they are convinced that AI images are bad and are trained to look for any kind of artefacts
2. Artists or anons didnt do shit about NFTs, masses were convinced that they are bad because it is self evident. You are buying fake ownership of a JPG that is literally mass produced by random numbers combining different hairstyles and mouths to the same base. The only people who promoted it were drooling morons, or scumbags who knew it was horseshit but knew there were enough people believing it to be worthwhile grift. Crypto was seen as dogshit and retarded since its inception, the 2020 crypto boom was caused by the line unstoppably going up and up despite common sense stating otherwise, so people fooled themselves into believing that the dumb bullshit was actually not dumb because it seemingly worked, and now that it crashed it made people realize it was actually just as dumb as people thought.

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6582296]

I am the only one here that is actually remaking AI generated into something hand drawn while the rest are just making pointless arguing. If you guys want to challenge the abuse of AI tech, I have a challenge for you: Do what I did and redraw something like this in your own style. Be the change you want to be.

[Anonymous No.6582304]

>>6582296
Sorry, but I dont enjoy the hand motions and tracing motions of brush or pen on my tablet that makes those pictures. I enjoy the creative process and using my imagination, my drawings are just way for me to express those. With Ai you just give it suggestions and it then designs it for you. You then take its creative work and trace it, doing literal manual labor with little creativity put into it. But as long as you enjoy it, or it makes money to you, I wont object, you do you.

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6582324]

>>6582304
That is not what I meant. It would be stupid to trace it. Its about putting soul in a soulless work. Take my recent piece: >>6580925 I didn't even trace it from the original. What I did is took the piece and fixed it up, by redrawing the entire thing from the ground up with significant changes. I started with the 3d reference >>6580626 , then the sketch. The rest formed into the final piece. Hell. I even made the background different from the original, while adding some visual story. This was being drawn while everyone else were having flame wars, bitching about AI while doing nothing.
That is the point of AI art Redemption. To promote productive solutions to the AI controversy rather than just bitching and riling up for some dystopian cyberpunk future, or God forbid, sending death threats to AI prompters or Techbros.

[Anonymous No.6582332]

>>6582324
Stay zased, Royce

[Anonymous No.6582337]

>>6582332
Zased. First time I have heard of that.

[Anonymous No.6582341]

>>6582296
I'm sure goyslop is good enough for furry coomers.

[Anonymous No.6582355]

>>6582341
Dont insult furry coomers. They are the only ones who stood firmly against AI slop. Furaffinity was the first and one of the very few sites that outright banned AI the milisecond it started looking semi-decent and not like messy fever dreams

[Anonymous No.6582393]

>>6582355
Less talk more art!

[Anonymous No.6582569]

More art?

[Anonymous No.6582607]

>>6582324
>Techbros and AIfags getting death threats
Obv we should been sending more and you know people prob been making kys bots for about every occasion by know

[Anonymous No.6582879]

Working on reworking this piece into something hand drawn.

[Anonymous No.6582884]

>>6582879
the WIP

[Anonymous No.6582922]

>>6582341
Surely you jest.

They agressively gatekeep against AI in their cycles, you are talking about the kind of people who pays 5k for a miles DF illustration.

They value pictures by the parasocial status of the artist, not by how rendered they are.

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6584251]

Am I the only one doing this?

[Anonymous No.6584320]

>>6582884
>>6584251
You need 3d model software to draw a referenced figure standing from the thighs up? ngmi

[Anonymous No.6584323]

>>6582341
I unironically respect furry artists and everything art related that they do. they have a ton of styles and character designs so AI shit that's getting posted still looks like utter sameface trash with melting textures, it stands no chance against the utter diversity of furry art, the myriad of ways they render fur. just go to the AI thread on /trash/ and see for yourself how bad it looks

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6584354]

>>6584320
I struggle with hands.

[Anonymous No.6584555]

Just want you all to know that this is the guy your arguing with
>>6584354
Also genuine question Royce, and I dont mean to offend im just curious, but how do you draw for over 11 years and make little improvement? Do you just draw for the fun of it, or are you preoccupied with work and such

[Anonymous No.6584605]

>>6582266
It wasnt just the fact that the NFT was a scam, it was also consuming resources such as video cards to create fake currency that can go down. I am surprised that people are still putting money into a dead currency to this day.

[Anonymous No.6584751]

>>6582250
>All AI is bad, it just took people this to finally realize it.
You mean artists started whining only when it came for them.

[Anonymous No.6584756]

>>6584751
Who did it come for first? artists.

[Anonymous No.6584759]

>>6584756
*that is to say, earlier AI it wasn't obviously affecting anyone negatively yet. I think for a lot of casual observers, AI dungeon was the first time it looked like something big was coming soon. But Image AI was when shit actually hit the fan and particles of shit hit the artists first.

[Anonymous No.6585456]

>>6584756
>>6584759
It didn't start with the artists. The AI stuff we had during 2021 until now was just simple fun stuff like 15.ai. But it all went to shit when the promise of monitization and the disreguard for ethics in AI became apparent in Techbros. The truth about the controversy behind AI is all about the ethics and the lack there of when big companies and corps starts to think about the promise of capital from it. But that is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the ethics of AI manipulation

[Anonymous No.6585494]

>>6579273
Pick up a real fucking pencil. Draw something only you would think to draw. Draw portraits and nudes of your lover only for you to see. Refuse to share them to the artistic black hole that is the internet. Archive them in your home, put them on your walls. Pass your art onto your children.

Whore yourself out in any way you can for money to weather the economic shitstorm, but no one can ever take your innate personal creativity away from you.

Abandon the internet hype train. it’s a fucking graveyard at this point. Anyone with the vaguest interest in not rotting away with dementia will always continue creating. Do your part to stop feeding the AI black hole, it’s the only way.

[Anonymous No.6585560]

>>6585456
what the fuck are you talking about? People were freaking out over "muh" ethics when AI wasn't even a thing yet. The whole "ethics with AI has been a bullshit, "Oh no we can't have dirty stories in our chatbots!, Oh no our chat bots have to be diverse!" to appease mentally ill trannies and SJWs. But most of all to make them more "corpo" and investor/advertiser friendly/
>>6584759
On that topic I have yet to see a single shred of evidence that AI has negatively affected artists other then the extreme self-imposed cope from it.
>>6582922
Odd because the furry community has some whales that have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars into the from scratch training of furry models.

[Anonymous No.6585676]

>>6584751
everyone whines the hardest when it comes to their own jobs, you utter fucking retard. because it directly impacts them, and they're more exposed to the events. now let's take a look at what STEMroaches did to all these people for over a decade, telling them to "just learn how to code bro", together with the journo filth who promoted their dystopian culture

[Anonymous No.6585684]

>>6585560
>extreme self-imposed cope from it.
There was a guy who's boss trained AI/LoRA on the work of his employees, which he owned I guess. I can't see that as anything but negative for the artist who once had a fulfilling job, and is now either a touch-up artist or unemployed for a period.

[Anonymous No.6585691]

>>6585684
Do you actually have proof or are just implying

[Anonymous No.6585705]

>>6582296
>>6582324
Why are nametroons so cancerous?
Also furshit will NEVER have soul by pure principle.

[Anonymous No.6585711]

>>6585560
>the furry community has some whales that have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars into the from scratch training of furry models.
>hundreds of thousands
Surely you jest

[Anonymous No.6585737]

>>6585711
Many furries who are able to afford such commodities are either medical or tech by trade.

[Anonymous No.6585754]

>>6585737
these are the retards who complain that are being gatekept, lmao

[Anonymous No.6585755]

>>6585754
Wait aren't you the fags on /tg/ that shat up several threads projecting and accusing the retard furry of being a pedophile? Now drawfags are doing bear fills ironically?

[Anonymous No.6585756]

>>6585755
I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm not even acknowledging the existence of that shithole board

[Anonymous No.6585791]

>>6585691
It was on instagram. last year, AIfags brought it here to gloat. I don;t think I could find it very easily, it wasn't someone I knew before.

[Anonymous No.6585800]

>>6585791
*Google is so shit now even in quotes it doesn't find shit anymore. I found a reddit post with the same story though. Can't validate it.

[Anonymous No.6585807]

>>6585800
this too, similar situation, being essentially forced to use AI or potentially lose his job.(art director being an asshole is nothing new though)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistLounge/comments/1260o5k/art_director_ruined_everything_i_liked_about_my/

[Anonymous No.6585855]

>>6585807
Well if the company you work for wants to use a certain product, like Adobe Firefly or whatever then that's what you gotta use. It's not really any different then having to use a specific editing software or content management system.

[Anonymous No.6586463]

>>6579383
>losing followers rapidly
Lmao you wish retard. 99% of followers dont care if its ai made as long as it looks good for them

[Anonymous No.6586480]

>>6585855
The issue here is not being simply made to use a different software, it's that the workflow changed and demoted him to a clean up grunt rather than utilizing any skills. Next the company will cut staff and pay.

[Anonymous No.6586499]

>>6585855
The job changed, not the software
It's like you are a mural painter, and your job was to draw an idea on pencil, and then paint on the wall
but then a machines comes up and does the same thing and your job now is find an appropiate image online, and feed paint
He's payed to do almost the same output, but one has no soul

[Anonymous No.6586839]

>>6586463
Cope, shill

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6586868]

You guys done bitching? Because yesterday I finished a piece. All while looking up tutorials for digitally painting glass.

[Anonymous No.6586906]

>>6579423
>giving a shit about the rules
lmao what a fag

[Anonymous No.6586949]

>>6586868
Should you use a hard brush for glass?

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6586951]

>>6586949
I did but I went with bluring them since I am still ill confidence with the smoothness of my hard brushes' lines.

[Anonymous No.6587020]

>>6585756
They're prone to spreading their diarrhea all over other boards.

[Anonymous No.6587043]

>>6579383
>censoring the username
Fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.6587153]

>>6587020
Almost in the most autistic of ways.

[Anonymous No.6588349]

>>6587153
>almost
I'd go further.

[Anonymous No.6589000]

Anyone else doing it aside from me?

[Anonymous No.6589321]

>>6581951
Not every artist cheats like that but you wouldn't know anyways as you're just another prompter spouting generalisations about a subjectmatter you know next to nothing about.

[Tami Hull No.6589326]

>>6579273
>and making us all look bad
Nobody needs to, AI users are making themselves look bad completely on their own.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

[Anonymous No.6589442]

Decades ago I liked creating AI images, now people chew it through so many times I feel disgusted by even thinking about it.
Go and denoise some trash I don't care anymore.

[Anonymous No.6589635]

>>6580484
I like how you even copied the 5th (not thumb) finger, like the ape you are. Don't let AI do the thinking.

[Marion Carlson No.6589721]

>>6579273
you should run it through the ai at the end and have it point out your mistakes because this shit looks stiff as hell<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

[Anonymous No.6589724]

>>6589721
Based GPT-4chan

[Anonymous No.6589745]

>>6589721
Probably

[Anonymous No.6589765]

>>6581951
Absolutely 100% correct techbro! You are absolutely right that using image generation is a creative process. The future is all about prompting artworks, not thinking about composition, perspective, structure, anatomy, design etc. Why even think at all when you can leave it all to AI. Its like when calculators replaced human brains for doing math problems. Luddite artcels from /ic/ will never understand

[Anonymous No.6589839]

>>6580185
>>6580163
>>6580143
>>6580211
>>6580214
>>6580220
>>6580234
>>6580238
>>6580245
>>6579273

Ai Art Fa/g/ here: we don't give to shits if you copy our generations. The vast majority of people doing it or doing it as a hobby to generate characters or subjects that we find visually appealing. Why the actual flying fuck would you think that the very people that are essentially using an automated version of derivative art what care that you do basically the same thing but in the traditional sense? That would be like a photographer getting pissed off at a kid that took inspiration from one of his landscape photos and decided to draw that same landscape in his own style. Only pretentious wastes of oxygen but actually get bent out of shape over that.

And you people wonder why you gave stereotyped as being pretentious retards..... You keep us wrench free in your head but it's absolutely not the case the other way around. Just fucking draw what you like and quit letting different methods steal your joy. If that pisses you off that badly just filter it out. Almost every social media site, even this one (if you can even call it a social media side) has filters. No one has forcing you to see this stuff. What is a consume your body mind and soul so badly? Even the trolls on /g/ and /h/ have completely forgotten about you guys yet are very existence played your mind. Why?

[Anonymous No.6589840]

>>6589839
Anon you came over here and asked for attention. We're just giving you the best engagements you'll probably ever have

[Anonymous No.6589848]

>>6589840
I didn't ask for attention I'm telling people to remove the stick from their asses and just enjoy what they like. Stop letting different methods destroy your love for drawing, demoralize you, and make stupid "redemption" threads like this. A couple years from now people are going to be laughing at these people at the same way people today have laugh at math teachers that protested against all calculator use when it was first invented.

And keep in mind, it's only internet obsessed terminally online schizos that are still obsessed with "muh ethics" regarding AI art. That fad died a couple months ago and most normies have no issue with AI art now because they assume it's progress has stagnated (it's certainly hasn't but of course cattle don't know what they're talking about most of the time)

>>6589840
>We're just giving you the best engagements you'll probably ever have
??? Wdym?

[Anonymous No.6589856]

>>6589839
>>6589848
I appreciate you giving the insight. If you want to use Ai art as a means to make some pretty pictures, that is fine with all of us. But the issue isn't because of your desire to see something visually appealing. Its the fact that those that tech bros and AI bros are using the new found technology as a way to replace artists and lord over them. They take pride in stealing people's styles via image generation and sell them faster than the law can react. Its the lack of ethics in late stage capitalism that drives us up the walls. not you.

[Anonymous No.6589862]

>>6589856
>Its the fact that those that tech bros and AI bros are using the new found technology as a way to replace artists and lord over them.
That's a fear mongering Doom posting demoralization-faggery and most of all, an exaggeration. I'm not denying that there are some halfwit trolls that do it for the express purpose of pissing you off (those same people are probably low skill even by AI art standards, most people are still under the impression that it can't generate decent looking hands or eyes for some fucking reason), but the vast majority of us are just doing it as a neat time wasting hobby. Don't take this the wrong way but it seems silly for you to even bring that up. I don't think the dude who invented the camera or people who adopted the camera did so for the express purpose of eliminating all traditional artists or oil painters come up but I'm sure dumb fuck Luddite oil painters or art enthusiasts themselves thought they were even though they likely gave little to no indication that that was the case. It weeks of insecurity, pompous pride, and way too much self-importance. Haven't you noticed that most well-known and/or successful artist are to making a huge stink about this still? Because that better shit to do like actually doing what they like and having a life and shit, right? I mean sure they made one or two posts being against AI art but then they completely drop the subject because they aren't mentally ill with one track minds that fixate on the same fucking subject for several months. /g/ I've had prolonged interactions with /g/ Spurgs that are less obsessive and less condescending than some of you guys.

>>6589856
>sell them faster than the law can react.
Very very very very very very few of us are even capable of monetizing this because

1)AI is easily identified
2) making it or even liking it is still seen as taboo by most normies, so a lot of people won't touch it no matter how good it looks. It's a harmless hobby. Who the fuck cares?

[Anonymous No.6589865]

>>6589856
>Le capitalism scapegoat

[Anonymous No.6589869]

>>6589856
>and sell them faster than the law can react.
>>6589862
>Very very very very very very few of us are even capable of monetizing this because
Could it include this because character limit, but to add on to this, even very popular artists aren't really making a lot of income from this, (with a couple exceptions come up but they either got absurdly lucky, or using it for money laundering, or both). The more well-known AI artists on pics of with several hundred if not several thousand followers are forced to only charge a whopping 3,000 JPY or roughly 24 US dollars for requests because they aren't retarded enough to think they can charge the same price just normal order is charged. They're well aware that compared to normal drawing, it's piss easy and comparatively takes basically zero effort. Not to be fair to us making decent pieces actually takes a while depending on what you're trying to do and you may have to do some post editing with inpainting, Gimp, Photoshop, etc, but even still, you normal artists have to put in a lot more work and people know that, so they wouldn't dare pay us the same commission prices they pay you guys. So it's very silly to even complain about the fact that relatively few of us can make pennies off of a hobby.

Most >>>/g/sdg and >>>/h/hdg anons VERY heavily sculpt at the idea of doing this for monetary gain or clout, so I think you guys are fine. Stop falling for stupid deer mongering you dummy >|:-(

[Anonymous No.6589870]

>>6589848
Call it inkcel cope/demoralizing paintpiggy whatever you want but generated images will always be seen as effortless work regardless of how elaborate the prompt is/how much retouching is done. Due to its generative nature and lack of artistic deliberation its only going to be of worth to the prompter, to others not so much. You can genuinely fall in love with an AI piece, but it will not have an artistic identity/human expression attached to it simply because its machine made. To illustrate, a C.C gallery composed of 1000 high-quality, polished SD generated images will not have the same appreciation as a 10 image gallery of C.C made by a twitter autist named Creayus.

It all boils down to people's empathy appreciating effort. It's not going to kill the current commission industry, it's not going to kill the current concept art industry, it's not going to kill art as a whole as long as people remain connected to people (humans, homo sapiens sapiens, can think, can feel emotions). I do think it will kill a lot of commercial art, but those were soulless jobs nobody really likes doing in the first place.

tldr: Human effort has value, human expression has value, AI images have barely any human effort/expression to it, therefore its of less value if not worthless.

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6589873]

>>6589870
Ah perfect way to describe it. Also I think its time to start a new thread.

[Anonymous No.6589879]

>>6589870
>generated images will always be seen as effortless work regardless of how elaborate the prompt is/how much retouching is done.
Most of us agree with you. I don't see the point of bringing that up. AI art styles are way too distinct to be passable as regular art unless you're a fucking hermit or just don't give a shit. Again, it's a harmless hobby. We (well, most of /g/, can't speak for /h/ because they constantly have a stick up their ass) aren't even remotely interested in competing with you but you are for whatever the fuck reason. See >>6589869

[Anonymous No.6589882]

>>6589873
>Page 1
>60 files

Que?

[Anonymous No.6589893]

New thread:
>>6589889

[Anonymous No.6589903]

>>6589879
>constantly harass artists
>shit up websites with AI
>taking convention space that could have gone to actual artists
>plagiarism
>get rich quick schemes
>"we're not fucking with you, promise"
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6589904]

>>6589903
>"I'll take horrendously exaggerated anecdotes for $500"

[Anonymous No.6589907]

>>6589904
Gaslighting works when you remove the evidence first.

[Anonymous No.6589911]

>>6589907
Oh the evidence exists. You're just exaggerating the amount

[Anonymous No.6590241]

https://youtu.be/BDzpZYNyvaI