/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginner Thread

[Anonymous No.6576355]

If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6572425

[Anonymous No.6576359]

poster below me likes dick

[Anonymous No.6576363]

>>6576359
it's true

some imagination stuff, here's some 1px paint work

[Anonymous No.6576368]

>>6576359
it's true

some imagination stuff, here's some 1px paint work

[Anonymous No.6576384]

>>6576359
You need to be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6576385]

Trying to improve upon this pic.

[Anonymous No.6576412]

I really enjoy doing observational sketches as a warm up routine, are there more sites like posemaniacs and sketchdaily that give me an easy way to do observational drawings, do rapid fire drawing prompts for non-figures exist even?

[Anonymous No.6576428]

What are some exercises that I can do at 5am in the morning when I have an hour or two to spare before work?

I am not in exactly the most creative mood when I wake up, but this is when I used to learn vocabulary back in college so I know that I can teach myself things during that time.

[Anonymous No.6576443]

>>6576428
Maybe try drawing different random objects from different angles while keeping their proportions?

[Anonymous No.6576461]

Is peter han's dynamic sketching worth it for a low /beg/? Ive done the homework for the first couple weeks but im worried that the later assignments are a bit too far above my level

[Anonymous No.6576481]

>>6576461
>eter han's dynamic sketching
begtrap
improve your observation skill first

[Anonymous No.6576494]

>>6576481
Yeah thats what i was thinking. I started it because i saw the first lessons of line and shape warmups and those helped me some with line quality but i still need to get a good grasp of observation and perspective

[Anonymous No.6576524]

How good is learning from Morpho as a beginner?

[Anonymous No.6576528]

finally drew something for myself, hate it. Welp, back to fundies

[Anonymous No.6576532]

>>6576528
I think you would hate your art less if you weren't drawing child porn

[Anonymous No.6576535]

>>6576532
my only motivation to draw is cute boys, cannot stop until i become the dorontabi of shota's

[Anonymous No.6576544]

Why can't I post more than one image per post in IC?

[Anonymous No.6576546]

>>6576544

[Anonymous No.6576548]

>>6576535
do you draw cute boys with older women with big boobs, or just boys alone?

[Anonymous No.6576550]

>>6576548
my goal is to draw /ss/ in the future, but right now i only draw shotas

[Anonymous No.6576554]

>>6576550
thats cool

[Anonymous No.6576566]

any advice welcome

[Anonymous No.6576569]

where do i learn to draw gore?

[Anonymous No.6576571]

>>6576528
>>6576532
>>6576535
Funny thing is that I've seen old dudes and grandpas drawn with the same height and proportion in anime.

[Anonymous No.6576573]

>>6576571
This guy was a minor character in the anime of great pretender.

[Anonymous No.6576583]

>>6576544
Merge them into a single image file

[Anonymous No.6576589]

>>6576566
Things that stand out the most to me: her ankles look broken and swollen rather than anklebones, and her entire right lower leg (left in the image) is misshapen, as if you didn't even try. Doesn't properly connect onto the foot either unless she broke it.
Inconsistent thigh thickness.
Arms look fine-ish, but you should watch for the lower arm/wrists. When the hand rotates sideways, viewed from the front, the arm is more flat. Basically, you drew the lower arms as they'd look viewed from the front, they should thin out more if rotated to their side.
Hair color also too dim, easily blends with the background.

[Anonymous No.6576635]

>>6576355
I like the barrel train

[Anonymous No.6576638]

lil fishing lad

[Anonymous No.6576639]

>>6576550
God bless you anon. Keep up the good work

[Anonymous No.6576642]

>>6576638
I like it, good job

[Anonymous No.6576665]

Thoughts on this pic?

[Anonymous No.6576668]

How much time should I spend drawing from life compared to copying images on a screen?

I'm a beg and I like nothing better than going on Pinterest and drawing all the sluts and cute pictures, but when I go to weekly art group Im sweating like shit drawing boxes and ellipses from real life.

[Anonymous No.6576691]

[Anonymous No.6576697]

>>6576461
just stick with it man
ignore the anon who says “begtrap” because crahs here say that about everything

[Anonymous No.6576701]

>>6576665
Verry nice, gmi
>>6576668
Just do some warmups doing the boxes.

[Anonymous No.6576704]

>>6576697
>crahs
meant crabs
obviously
now i look like the dummy

[Anonymous No.6576706]

>>6576704
It's ok.

[Anonymous No.6576811]

>>6576385
>>6576665
You need to move on. Start a new piece. Maybe don’t draw disgusting shit too.

[Anonymous No.6576861]

>>6576811

Well this is something I just started with.
I need some help with this as well.

[Anonymous No.6576875]

is this roughly the way to do titties?
just apply the circles to the cage and add another one to roughly how big it's gonna be?

[Anonymous No.6576901]

>>6576861
everything would be forgivable if you constructed your face better. Start a daily regimen of copying anime faces, /asg/ style. Read their sticky to find out what I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.6576913]

>>6576901

They can't be that bad.

[Anonymous No.6576916]

>>6576913
"Those who think themselves perfect,

[Anonymous No.6576930]

>>6576916

How am I supposed to fix it then?

[Anonymous No.6576942]

>>6576930
bro, he literally just told you

[Anonymous No.6576945]

>>6576942

Like I literally used various references for the characters themselves as well as the pic I am trying to draw.

[Anonymous No.6576950]

>>6576945
Anon I understand horny drawing but I'm calling your legal guardian

[Anonymous No.6576951]

is it worth doodling / drawing from imagination as a turbo/beg/?
still going through Brent Eviston's course, not sure if I'll really learn anything from it at this stage since I have a small visual library and lack of skill atm

[Anonymous No.6576964]

>>6576951
all drawing is worth it

[Anonymous No.6576965]

How can you keep drawing when you have to use the bathroom real bad?

[Anonymous No.6576967]

>>6576355
>beg thread gets past filter
>its still dog shit
heh.

[Anonymous No.6576971]

>>6576355
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
what is the reason why?

[Anonymous No.6576980]

>>6576566
Something like this. There is a lot to say about the picture so I thought an overpaint would be better than typing.

[Anonymous No.6576990]

>>6576964
Not if you don’t want to stagnate as a permabeg

[Anonymous No.6576993]

>>6576951
Yes it is always worth to doodle!

[Anonymous No.6576997]

>>6576951
yes, doodling is great because it gets you drawing. the best thing you can do as a beg is draw a shitload.

[Anonymous No.6577030]

>>6576951
These are very cool, anon. Not turbobeg, very imaginative drawing.
When I want to doodle, I immediately fall into stupor. There's so much to explore in these simple doodles. In fact I think, it's useful even if you are a good artist, since you can come upon a great idea. That's only my beg opinion though.

[Anonymous No.6577032]

So how am I supposed to draw Miang at the right?

[Anonymous No.6577033]

First time attempting blending, trying to get rid of line dependency

[Anonymous No.6577051]

Drawing with a brush pen

[Anonymous No.6577052]

I need help with how I should draw Miang's back and body on the right here and how should she curve in this pic.

I was wondering if someone can help me with the anatomy of her. She is licking Elly's vagina here.

[Anonymous No.6577114]

>>6577052
Stop asking help on your specific piece. You're wasting your time.

You need to practice drawing. You need a practice schedule. You need to set time aside for studies. Giving you "tips" on your current disgustingly horny drawing isn't going to help you improve. Your drawings are crap, and everyone thinks they're crap. You're embarrassing yourself with every desperate post you make. GO PRACTICE. 頑張ろう!!!

[Anonymous No.6577117]

>>6576535
But the dorontabi of shotas already exists

[Anonymous No.6577126]

>>6576875
Figure out pecs.

[Anonymous No.6577141]

>>6577114

Dude. I can't do figure drawings worth shit.
I have a harder time with basics and structure.

Being self-taught has got me this far.

[Anonymous No.6577152]

Absolute 100% retard question here: is "picture-book" not the name for this aesthetic?
You know, the one for fairy tales, folklore, the soft art usually with bright colors? Sometimes pencil, sometimes water?
Everything I google is absolute shit
>Picture-book brings up a billion shitty nu-art or just books to buy
>Watercolor brings grade school wetting the whole page art
At best I can find the individual artists like Beatrix Potter
and Ida Rentoul Outhwaite but nothing to unify them other than "children's art".

[Anonymous No.6577156]

never fucking realized how hard drawing elipses in perspective could be

[Anonymous No.6577158]

>>6577152
https://www.youtube.com/@petebeard/videos
Here go research.

[Anonymous No.6577162]

>>6577156
Welcome.

[Anonymous No.6577168]

I don't really get how you go from just drawing 2 boxes in perspective to an actual simplification of the human figure.
When looking at finished illustrations or photos the bodies really don't seem to correspond to rigid forms like that.

[Anonymous No.6577169]

>>6577158
Well if there isn't a suitable catch all then at least that gives me more names to pull from
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6577171]

>>6577168

[Anonymous No.6577189]

>>6577169
I'm sure there's some word for it but I just do not know it. I would look up artists on wikipedia, to see if there's a hint. Looked up some myself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bauer_(illustrator)#Style but nothing about a specific word for it. it's just "their style" mostly.
Some lovely stuff here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Among_Gnomes_and_Trolls
https://www.vintag.es/2021/05/john-bauer-illustrations.html "romantic nationalistic style" dunno about that, might be some other pieces which aren't the ones shown in this article.

[Anonymous No.6577208]

>>6576697
I dont mind sticking with it i just wonder if my time would be better spent doing more of the basic stuff im working through instead

[Anonymous No.6577215]

>>6577171
Transforming the two posed boxes to the figure on the right is what I struggle with, even if I know left is a simplification of the right.
Is this the part where I actually study anatomy?

[Anonymous No.6577232]

>>6576569
Depends on what you want. Read some gore hentai, or look up some toon gore, with those sliced cartoon-meat characters and zippers and brains (furries love them).

Look up anatomy diagrams, just type human organs and get a feeling for where they are, their shapes.
If you're going for realism, watch some dissection or surgery videos, it's not hard to find them even on Youtube, especially on animals.

Go to /gif/ and watch rekt threads, the Internet is your oyster.

Read Kago Shintarou for some "tasteful" gore.

>>6576638
Creative design, but not enough thought on the cat's shapes.
The spear with creatures is awesome, then the cat has a simplified, uneventful, even lopsided shape to it.
If you've flipped it already, consider drawing a rougher silhouette of the character/parts and see how you'd simplify shapes like the head, lantern-holding paw and feet. Once you see the simplified shape, try to make the complex one.
Also the sleeves should help the flow, but they're distracting.

[Anonymous No.6577249]

>>6577152
I hate to say this, but Pinterest might be a good bet to find related content.

If you can find artists who draw in the style you like on Twitter/Instagram, they might also reblog stuff that has a similar spirit, as well as the algorithm suggesting this stuff to you.

>>6577215
Yeah, that tutorial is basically "just draw the rest of the fucking owl", but it's not wrong.
You just need MORE boxes.

Learn to draw basic shapes and then break your anatomy study in more shapes than 2 cubes. The 2 cubes is for when you're already advanced enough to visualize the 3D form of the rest of the body sitting on top of it.

Do practice winging it, though, don't stay in your comfort zone for too long!

[Anonymous No.6577251]

>>6577168
check bridgman, the first chapters are all about the three masses of the body simplified as boxes.

>>6577051
I love brush pen but I need to practice way more

>>6577033
think in shapes rather than lines

[Anonymous No.6577255]

>>6577215
Could start with just trying to connect the pieces.

[Anonymous No.6577267]

>>6576355
what's the sauce on OP picrel?

[Anonymous No.6577286]

>>6576428
I use my web app idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app when I have free time and I need something quick to draw, you can select from shapes, random themed images or just random nouns. Use the timer.

>>6576461
I like it but I would the 2/3 weeks of DAB (then ditch that thing) first and then start dynamic sketching.

[Anonymous No.6577307]

>>6577141
go watch porn or look at hentai and find girls in this position

[Anonymous No.6577329]

>>6577267
i'm the anon who drew the OP picrel. not sure why it's the header. but if you google SuicideGirls 2023-02-19 Dream - Bath you can find the album with the reference pic.

[Anonymous No.6577331]

How did this turn out?

[Anonymous No.6577332]

[Anonymous No.6577356]

goal was practice shading with cylindrical forms. is this too cluttered/too many marks?

[Anonymous No.6577364]

>>6577356
if there's any issue with that drawing to begin with, it ain't the inking, it's the lack of apparent depth and the branches going from thin to thick rather than the other way around consistently (which may just be the subject if you were drawing from life). again, texture looks awesome, though

[Anonymous No.6577366]

It's been 2 weeks and I STILL can't draw straight lines

[Anonymous No.6577370]

>>6577366
neither could loomis, who recommends "just use a ruler lmao"

[Anonymous No.6577373]

>>6577366
post lines

[Anonymous No.6577374]

>>6577331
good stuff Anon!

[Anonymous No.6577375]

>>6576355
Where can I find poses for women doing things like showering that aren't hideous tattooed up skanks like the one in the OP?

[Anonymous No.6577377]

>>6576535
>dorontabi of shota
Dorontabi already draws shota bro
it's too late

[Anonymous No.6577386]

>>6576951
That's beautiful and far from turbo/beg/.

[Anonymous No.6577390]

>>6576965
wear diapers

[Anonymous No.6577392]

>>6576965
>getting rid of reference material

[Anonymous No.6577398]

>>6577373
just for you anon. Some oblique ones are fine enough (though not when I'm actually drawing) but horizontal ones are a pain and so is angulation, I never get it right.

[Anonymous No.6577402]

>>6577398
These are plenty straight anon. Stop being autistic.

[Anonymous No.6577405]

>>6577402
>plenty straight
NTA, but what are you on about? That's all over the place. Hardly straight.

[Anonymous No.6577408]

>>6577402
My horizontals are irredeemable. And so is my angulation.

[Anonymous No.6577410]

>>6577364
i made mistakes sketching my reference leading to the depth issues. thank you for the feedback

[Anonymous No.6577427]

>>6577402
I don't see wobbles in your line, what are you talkig about then? Are you trying trying to draw a vertical straight line | and it becomes a diagonal / ?

[Anonymous No.6577438]

>>6577410
don't be afraid of loose edges it will make tree more readable

[Anonymous No.6577469]

>>6577438
i'm not sure what you mean - do you mean lines that break the form's silhouette?

[Anonymous No.6577480]

another daily dose of drawing shitty sketches instead of putting any effort in making finished work
the one on the right is basically saroyama copy

[Anonymous No.6577481]

>>6577307

Kinda hard to do when there is more than 2 people. The more you have,the harder this shit gets.

Also,I need an outline on how Miang should be positioned. She is the one on the right licking Elly's vagina.

[Anonymous No.6577488]

I've been practicing some rendering, how's this

[Anonymous No.6577551]

For drawing on the right side of the brain am i missing much if i only do the workbook?

[Anonymous No.6577570]

[Anonymous No.6577591]

>>6577052
The real question is, who does the dick belong to? It doesn't belong to the guy sucking on the titty. Anatomically, the reference you're using is fucked beyond belief. Spatially, the composition makes no goddamn sense. There's no saving this picture. Try something else.

[Anonymous No.6577603]

>>6576971
Waste of space and time downloading and shows you won't even bother putting in the effort. Same reason why /p/ has the same rule. If it's a bigass image and thumbnail looks sub/beg/ then I won't even bother opening it.
>lmao get faster intern-
This is why you don't get replies.

[Anonymous No.6577604]

>>6577591

So how am I supposed to draw everyone?
Cause say I start over,what the fucking hell I can do to make this work?

[Anonymous No.6577608]

>>6577604
why are you so committed to this piece you’ve drawn other equally atrocious horny pieces before is this your final coom or something

[Anonymous No.6577610]

>>6577488
the background colour is kinda betraying you here. I'd go for a lighter blue.

[Anonymous No.6577633]

>>6577570

[Anonymous No.6577636]

>>6577374
I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.6577638]

>>6577331
Great

[Anonymous No.6577653]

>>6577141
>>Dude. I can't do figure drawings worth shit.
>I have a harder time with basics and structure.
aka im a lazy cunt who dont wanna learn fundies

[Anonymous No.6577657]

kk

[Anonymous No.6577669]

How good is learning from Morpho as a beginner?

[Anonymous No.6577680]

>>6577669
I would say yeah

[Anonymous No.6577684]

How much progress might I be able to make in a year?

[Anonymous No.6577686]

>>6577684
6

[Anonymous No.6577688]

literally impossible

[Anonymous No.6577691]

>>6577686
6 what

[Anonymous No.6577697]

got filtered hard by lesson 6 of Brent's course on week 2, The Tactile Line
was supposed to use line to make an object look a certain way, in this case heavy, but they both missed the mark and I can't figure out a better way to do it
they just seem poorly rendered rather than stylized

[Anonymous No.6577733]

>>6577657
damn how do you render flames like that? Is it just background orange/yellow+add glow orange+airbrushed yellow?

[Anonymous No.6577734]

will eviston's lessons help me draw anime girls
any examples of people who learned from eviston drawing anime

[Anonymous No.6577751]

>grab drawing tablet
>open up csp
>every thought i've ever had turns into tv static
>cant draw anything
>cant even think of something to search for to copy
will i ever draw anything besides cubes

[Anonymous No.6577753]

If I'm doing a study from another artist, should I try and "guess" their process (construction, sketching), or just try to skip to drawing the final form and focus on the linework instead?

[Anonymous No.6577758]

I need to practice a lot values

[Anonymous No.6577765]

>>6577733
I don't know. orange yellow with airbrush glow, yes. Maybe you like it because of wierd brush

[Anonymous No.6577773]

Hello beg. There is something wrong because i was under impression my lines were perfectly fine vertical but they are all tilted. Either i am sitting tilted towards the monitor / tablet or i have brain tumor.

>>6577734
first you need observation: keys to drawing. after that any figure drawing course should help you a lot.
>>6577697
the beg books taught me that lines dont exist alone. to properly do your exercise you need composition with two objects: one light, one heavy. So in comparison you can see the big differences in line weight. Take your pics with weights and draw under it squeezed pillow. that will do it
>>6577688
>anon doesnt have table at home
NGMI
>>6577684
feel free to check out my gallery to get an idea pawell2418.github.io
>>6577657
very cool!
>>6577633
i like how the dull colors match the dull mood. its like real art or something
>>6577488
anon.... i dont see any rendering, i only see blocked out basic shapes
>>6577480
>these are no effort doodles from imagination
INT
>>6577356
i kneel. also the other anon dissing you with the depth issue: he is right but it is a fucking tree. they can grow in any configuration. good job on the texture and form
>>6577168
https://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-for-Artists-Volume-2/dp/1912843420
>>6577156
ellipses are like the hardest shit ever to draw by hand
>>6576668
all beg books said that drawing from real life is preferable compared to photos or magazines because the screen / camera can never capture 100% of the reality. But they also said photos are good enough
>>6576635
vector art?

[Anonymous No.6577774]

>>6577688
What part

[Anonymous No.6577784]

>>6577758
I'm glad his shoulder still looks like a boxing glove.

[Anonymous No.6577785]

>>6577758
why does his boxing glove look like a shoulder

[Anonymous No.6577787]

>>6577773
>keys to drawing
*instantly filters*

[Anonymous No.6577788]

>>6577773
>>6577774
There isn't a single mirror in this house.

[Anonymous No.6577789]

>>6577787
You can imagine what my progress would have been like if this dogshit book didn't kill me.

[Anonymous No.6577790]

>>6576355

[Anonymous No.6577792]

>>6577052
Is this some elaborate shitpost? You have been working on this image for a year if not two. Move the fuck on retard.

[Anonymous No.6577793]

[Anonymous No.6577794]

>>6577787
this is genuinely sound advice. your brain doesn't want you to draw a head below the shoulders because it goes against what you see all the time, so you'll struggle to actually draw it
the advice is just to draw what you see even if it seems wrong

[Anonymous No.6577795]

>>6577784
>>6577785
Kek

[Anonymous No.6577800]

>>6577794
don't play dumb

[Anonymous No.6577803]

>>6577052
Is this Esdeathfag?

[Anonymous No.6577804]

>>6577793
How do you manage to fuck up a front angled face

[Anonymous No.6577805]

when you use reality you translate 3d to 2d. but when photo you tend to do 2d to 2d as 2d so this interpretator never used, if interpreator alredy developed it can translte 2d to 3d to 2d aka to feel a form. but if not it will limit abilty. this is main difference not amount of detial or whatewer capture mean. just a theory. another advantage is natural ie human pespective/lens angle and colorcorection.

[Anonymous No.6577818]

>>6577803

Who is Esdeathfag?

[Anonymous No.6577822]

>>6577818
5yo permabeg

[Anonymous No.6577825]

>>6576550
based GMIpilled coomer

[Anonymous No.6577828]

>>6576546
too much time rendering, start a new piece

[Anonymous No.6577830]

>>6577773
keys to drawing sucks ass, stop recommending it unless you're trying to filter people

[Anonymous No.6577837]

just a study that i did right after i finished whatching some arm anatomy videos

[Anonymous No.6577848]

40 min skull study, my 4th attempt.
im finding this difficult as fuck but i think this is my best one yet. my biggest problem is i have no method when it comes to shading.

[Anonymous No.6577849]

>>6577800
you've been trying to gaslight people on this book being "bad because hands r hard hurr" for weeks, give it up and go draw or fuck off

[Anonymous No.6577854]

>>6577849
>weeks
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.6577861]

>>6577849
this book is shit
pyw from imagination or stop posting it

[Anonymous No.6577862]

Head and hands need fixing, but here's a WIP.

[Anonymous No.6577865]

does anyone know an online free source like these japanese pose books?
something with a lewd tone so it's only hot ladies

[Anonymous No.6577868]

any guides for rendering anime illustrations like this? i'm aware of certain steps like
>draw thing
>color base
>multiply with dark tone (purple or blue depending on lightning)
>refine
but is there a guide on the type of colors to pick? or the general behavior in daylight, since i wanna give a warm touch to the illustration
sorry for being ESL

[Anonymous No.6577870]

>>6577868
even a timelapse of an illustration with similar lightning would be helpful. thanks!

[Anonymous No.6577873]

Gimme an art name to call myself! I'll use it you'll see

[Anonymous No.6577906]

what's a good way to remember proportions?
just repetition?

[Anonymous No.6577926]

tried using a brighter background
rendering is finally feeling fun

[Anonymous No.6577931]

>>6577822

I need a full rundown on this.
Since there is a lot of lore here. And the name is an interesting one.

[Anonymous No.6577936]

I’ve never taken the time to learn shading. Here is an example of me using a technique I call “uhhhh this should be darker than that right?”

[Anonymous No.6577938]

>>6577936
And then here’s me using a black and white layer run through a gaussian blur. I obviously used a picture reference. I have no idea how to shade without a reference

[Anonymous No.6577964]

How am I supposed to learn from Morpho?

[Anonymous No.6577975]

>>6577964
Well the Morpho series are more like art reference books rather than an art instruction book, so you will need decent drawing and self-studying skills for it to be useful. The creator said it's designed to used for quickly looking something up when drawing from life. That is also why they are printed at A5 size, to be small and portable. You can use them to learn by analyzing the images while copying them, comparing them to photos/life, re-drawing them from memory, trying to apply the same simplifications to your own drawings etc.

[Anonymous No.6577993]

>>6577800
Like this?

[Anonymous No.6578016]

the arms are intentionally slightly large, they are supposed to be robo arms

[Anonymous No.6578018]

>>6577868
Literally any resource on painting.

[Anonymous No.6578024]

>>6577931
Esdeathfag was a hard /beg/ who usually drew only the character called Esdeath from some anime nobody cares about, hence the name. His art was a pinnacle of /beg/ features with toothpaste limbs, completely flat space, very little concept of anatomy and general awfulness. Plus he always got triggered when he was told about his obvious mistakes and overall lack of improvement in the most basic fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.6578028]

any books/art books about pirates or pirate clothing? I wanna draw them

[Anonymous No.6578032]

>>6578028
are you retarded or just lonely?

[Anonymous No.6578038]

>>6578032
little of both

[Anonymous No.6578039]

Temmie Chang was fucking 22 when she worked on Undertale. I was a depressed neet at that age. I lost the game before it even began.

[Anonymous No.6578044]

>>6578028
https://ospreypublishing.com/us/search/?q=pirate
Knock yourself out!
I'd love to see your pirates when you've drawn them
>>6578038
Based

[Anonymous No.6578051]

>>6578039
boo hoo

[Anonymous No.6578053]

>>6578044
thank you m8y

[Anonymous No.6578056]

>>6578051
Indeed.

[Anonymous No.6578101]

>>6576355
No complains, right?
I'll do color now
Hope I don't fuck this up

[Anonymous No.6578102]

>>6578101
You can spice it up a little by make variations of the lines.

[Anonymous No.6578107]

>>6578102
Like how?

[Anonymous No.6578132]

>>6578107
Line weight variation
Thicken the entire outline by like 1.5 to 3 px but keep it thiner where light hits the figure and thicker where shadows are supposed to be

[Anonymous No.6578135]

>>6578132
Sounds tough but can be doable.
Let's see if I can do that once I started coloring

[Anonymous No.6578137]

>>6577773
>INT
thanks i guess
i've been told that a lot but i just don't see it
maybe the reason is i never seen bad art that much cause when i started i quickly discovered KJG and Terada and since then i only followed only best artist but yeah thanks regardless

[Anonymous No.6578169]

>>6578039
>life isn't fair
no shit retard

[Anonymous No.6578197]

been using a binary brush lately and i really like the aesthetic

[Anonymous No.6578199]

>>6578039
michelangelo was 24 when he sculpted the pieta

[Anonymous No.6578207]

>>6578024
I'm an husbandofag that's been drawing theirs for little over 3 years. I quiver with fear knowing that in some alternate timeline I could've ended up like EDfag except with a shitty Tumblr artstyle or something

[Anonymous No.6578218]

I'll just leave it here.

[Anonymous No.6578246]

>>6578218
can't put my finger on why but this is just a very believable image. i think it's the shape and shading of the butt. nice work

[Anonymous No.6578250]

>>6578246
its called SOVL

[Anonymous No.6578262]

>>6578250
I thought SOVL was about nice gestures. why do people say SOVL on drawings with fucked anatomy and proportions but have a really expressive gesture?

[Anonymous No.6578265]

>>6578262
sovl is anything that reaches ur infant brain

[Anonymous No.6578268]

>>6578024

Yeah. I don't really think that was Exdeath that was in the drawing. The reference used seemed to use Xenogears characters.

[Anonymous No.6578272]

>>6577993
yes

[Anonymous No.6578311]

>>6576355
Isn't the OP pic evidence that 'just draw a box!' for character perspective drawing is complete bullshit? It would literally look better if you took the time making all of those useless constructions and instead just focused on making the figure look good. Like I can't imagine that there's much use for this except for extreme angles of depth. This would be better by speeding up the drawing by using simple construction and then using the extra time to clean up the figure and make sure the proportions are actually correct.

[Anonymous No.6578329]

>>6578311
>just symbol draw bro, eventually it will look 'good'
i shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.6578349]

>>6578329
he's right tho. begs can't even draw cubes how do you expect them to draw soft mass like tiddies and arms and legs? might as well copy and learn to draw soft, otherwise you're stuck with fugly americanoid art

[Anonymous No.6578357]

Had to start all over with a new sketch and using my SH Figuarts as a basis for reference.

[Anonymous No.6578361]

>>6578349
>>6578311
>just copy bro
>just draw bro
The worst, most insidious kind of crabbing - leading clueless noobs to draw for literal years without improvement.

[Anonymous No.6578363]

>>6578361
>just follow step by step tutorial bro

[Anonymous No.6578365]

[Anonymous No.6578375]

>>6578363
>You have to feel the forms but not actually visualize them, bro! There are only hard or soft masses, you can't have both!

[Anonymous No.6578387]

>>6578375
>bro I have never picked up a pencil before but just learnt that i have aphantasia. My life long dream of becoming a mangaka is out the window. I'm 28 btw.

[Anonymous No.6578424]

>there are people in here still drawing for 3 years while never improving.

[Anonymous No.6578427]

>>6578424
That's what happens when you skip observation drawing, how are they supposed to see what they are getting wrong when drawing anything more complex than a sphere if they can't observe differences

[Anonymous No.6578443]

>>6578101
>that leg

[Anonymous No.6578450]

>>6578361
>leading clueless noobs to draw for literal years
Oh, how horrible. Just imagine how much they could have improved if they'd spent those years procrastinating and playing video games.

[Anonymous No.6578471]

>>6578262
Do i look like a guy that can recognize fucked anatomy and proportions? or even a nice gesture?

[Anonymous No.6578487]

>>6578361
>>6578329
Crabs trying to call other people out. Pyw or shut the fuck up, you know nothing. But keep drawing your boxes in the hope that you'll make something passable in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.6578489]

>>6578487
Giga based

[Anonymous No.6578508]

>>6576951
hey I'm picking up the Eviston book again, the first one I'm using as a turbobeg.
you are way above me.
I've never even doodled/drawn from imagination yet, just did Eviston lessons + bad copies of anime girls

[Anonymous No.6578512]

>>6576951
Apparently this is a controversial opinion but no, I don't think it's worth it as a beginner. You will never make something beautiful if you haven't done a ton of studying first, the mind doesn't work that way. It gets you drawing, sure, but it will not improve your skill unless you start actually copying other artists first.

[Anonymous No.6578517]

Copying dixit cards is pretty cool. Having the source at drawing level makes mistakes more obvious to spot.

[Anonymous No.6578524]

>>6578427
>how are they supposed to see what they are getting wrong when drawing anything more complex than a sphere if they can't observe differences
this
picrel, you can apply to perspective, painting, or any other fundie
no one is saying you should become a photoprinter, but at least improve your observation skills to mid-pro lvl.

[Anonymous No.6578525]

>>6578512
yeah, doodling to improve makes no sense, but if you're just doing some doodles on the side to ease the mind it's cool and good

[Anonymous No.6578536]

>>6576951
I think it's good. Helps you think.

[Anonymous No.6578560]

tried learning to draw for a bit by copying
didn't get very far

[Anonymous No.6578572]

Looking for ways to improve this comic panel I made.
I don't know dick about color theory. I just google searched a color palette and applied some cooling filters over it.

[Anonymous No.6578574]

>>6578572
>I don't know dick about color theory
watch rinotuna course

[Anonymous No.6578581]

Lasso tool practice. I wanna be a cowboy

[Anonymous No.6578625]

>>6578443
Give me a red line?

[Anonymous No.6578646]

[Anonymous No.6578651]

>>6578646
welcome back anon

[Anonymous No.6578654]

>>6578646
Die

[Anonymous No.6578667]

I cannot get used to bald head I see when constructing them to save my life, especially bald female heads. Looks so out of place.

[Anonymous No.6578690]

Something about this looks off to me, but I can't pinpoint what.
Not gonna bother finishing it anyway.

[Anonymous No.6578701]

Tried a quick "just draw what you're looking at" before continuing to read and apply homework from whatever manual and tbqh it's harder than I thought to "instinctively" keep eyeline VP etc in mind when you're not solely in your imagination, but I like the result a little better than an imaginary homework drawing or one copied from Pinterest or whatever. Just need to marry the "draw from life" and "perspective," stop drawing myopically, and I can build a visual library. I still can't do Loomis heads worth a dick though

[Anonymous No.6578705]

>>6578701
This isn't worth deleting, cropping and rotating but my bad nonetheless, I forgot to crop

[Anonymous No.6578721]

>>6578625
Feet should be closer to the body. Maybe this will help.

[Anonymous No.6578742]

>>6578690
CUTE! Please, please finish it!

[Anonymous No.6578743]

>>6578721
Ok thx.
I thought it was the leg shape I have to fix

[Anonymous No.6578752]

[Anonymous No.6578765]

>still need to see the video of the leg and hand
I'm going to just tackle mainly torso and arm but I want to at least know what muscles I'm looking at in the leg

[Anonymous No.6578803]

>>6576355
1: am i beg
2: if yes then how to not?

[Anonymous No.6578839]

>>6578803
>His body is literally just the outline of the construction
Yeah you are.

[Anonymous No.6578846]

>>6578839
>his
bruh

>literally just an outline of the construction
is that not what im supposed to do? serious question

[Anonymous No.6578854]

Are those goofy loomis faces supposed to be difficult

[Anonymous No.6578858]

>>6578721
How do you find your references? I don't know of a good site.

[Anonymous No.6578863]

>>6578854
no, that book was made for teens

[Anonymous No.6578864]

>>6578863
after making that post I had an ephipany and my loomisheads came out nicer. I'll keep at it a bit longer

[Anonymous No.6578875]

>>6578854
He is essentially telling you to have a grasp of form (the creation of, then addition and subtraction of, and finally the "building" of a figure from believable forms) before anyone reasonably would (imo). I say that because the book (FWAP at least) is something you'd expect a total beginner who hasn't doodled and stumbled upon forms randomly to grab. So you go in blind and end up symbol drawing the heads because realistically you'll draw his examples and maybe have like 50, max, under your belt before you try moving on and nothing looks good. Once you realize he wants you to think in 3d you can take a step back and do something for the turbobeg like drawabox, get that "3d brain," and Loomis FWAP book or Head and Hands book is much more discernable. I guess people were smarter back then or maybe I have cheese brain syndrome or something because I was one of those who had to take like 90 days of boxes and spheres and crap before 3 dimensions became somewhat visible in my drawings, and I had a mind to actively construct the illusion.

[Anonymous No.6578879]

>>6578875
I see. I figured as much.
honestly I should just suck it up and start sketching the shit I want to draw but after years of being an arrogant faggot I can't bring myself to produce ugly things
maybe I should get on some meds or drugs before drawing

[Anonymous No.6578886]

>>6578875
>He is essentially telling you to have a grasp of form
like this???

[Anonymous No.6578898]

>>6578886
I would say no because this is like 80% symbol 10% knowledge and 10% anime. Idk maybe a good test of form would be to draw 5 or 6 caterpillars wrestling from imagination.

[Anonymous No.6578903]

>>6578886
are you the guy that posts those senrans on /v/

[Anonymous No.6578906]

>>6578886
You improved so much, anon. Really makes me feel proud. I knew it you had in you. I can't wait to see you surpass me one day.

[Anonymous No.6578920]

>>6578886
kino
GMI!!!

[Anonymous No.6578924]

Thread quality drops 50% because of schizo responding to himself is back

[Anonymous No.6578927]

>>6578858
Normally, I just google for a photo of the pose I'm drawing, but this one I pulled from sadpanda.

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6578944]

I feel like I am degrading again. What do you all say?

[Anonymous No.6578947]

>>6578927
link

[Anonymous No.6578966]

How do you overcome overwhelming despair and keep drawing despite everything?

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6578969]

>>6578966
>Stop.
>Reoganize.
>review.
>back at it.

[Anonymous No.6578974]

>>6578966

[Anonymous No.6578977]

[Anonymous No.6578992]

>>6578966
discipline. when you're in "overwhelming despair" do you still eat meals and wipe after you shit?

[Anonymous No.6579014]

>>6578024
you could really start to see the improvement they had made in december, did you faggots bully him into quitting?

[Anonymous No.6579027]

>>6579014
>improvement
At best, nigga had reached the limits of their ability

[Anonymous No.6579038]

>>6578977
GMI!!!!

[Anonymous No.6579043]

[Anonymous No.6579084]

>>6576546
>>6577828
The fuck does that mean???
Like, honestly, what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.6579105]

Had to start all over cause the reference was shit and there is only so much I could do with it and I fucked up and was too far along to correct it.

[Anonymous No.6579229]

[Anonymous No.6579249]

>>6579229
>reverse search
>never fucking mind i'm on a list now

[Anonymous No.6579251]

>>6578846
learn anatomy

[Anonymous No.6579255]

>>6578944
its true you are degrading

[Anonymous No.6579258]

>>6579229
Kys
Eyes are wrong
Ponytail is weird
Now you will not unsee it
Kys

[Anonymous No.6579260]

>>6579038
thanks, I hope so, someday

[Royce the Arctic Fox No.6579337]

>>6579255
Great to know that there is a wholesome community here. /sarcasm

[Anonymous No.6579365]

>>6579337
go back to /r/drawing dude he went easy on you

[Anonymous No.6579367]

>>6578974
I love you

[Anonymous No.6579369]

>>6579105
this is better than what you had last thread. Still think it's a good idea for you to do figure drawing and master copies though. Would save you lots of frustration

[Anonymous No.6579387]

hello beg. today i took extra measures to make my verticals more vertical. i think the issue was me trying to do perfect vertical on blank canvas. There is literally nothing my eye can compare with. Not even the edges of the screen since its big wide monitor lmao. Once i get down the first line i can somewhat keep them in check.

>>6579229
i kneel
>>6579043
soul and cute
>>6579014
i think he entered art school and stopped posting here on /ic, yes i saw anons relentlessly bullying him but lets be fair: he brought it on himself by his behavior
>>6578977
even wobblier than mine but solid perspective study
>>6578966
just draw
>>6578803
idk what precisely separates begs and ints but i would say you are very competent
>>6578667
then just add hairstyle first to the sphere?
>>6578581
looks like art
>>6578572
not enough values. its all muddy as result. Put somewhere bright and then dark color tones.
>>6578560
keep going anon, you are on right path!
>>6578311
my beg opinion is that before construction you need to level up observation and accuracy skill. and then probably draw million gestures ALONG the construction before it becomes useful. and many begs see observation as skippable fundie and go right into loomis and or boxes.
>>6578197
gordon remsay? that cook who yells at people?
>>6577936
did you actually draw this yourself? did you use vectors? its so cool and eery looking. Easy improvement would be pushing values more so the forms are more obvious: making shadows darker. If you can feel the form you can shade. Simply decide from which direction source of light comes and then shade the forms accordingly

[Anonymous No.6579419]

>>6579249
>reverse search on yandex
>uooooh
>appears to contain katsuki anzutama
>"kazuki anzutama"
>UOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6579429]

still going through Brent's course, didn't get much done today
I think a big part of why I'm struggling right now is that I'm not drawing for fun, and I find drawing in pencil to be pretty frustrating (and it's not even my preferred aesthetic)
I retried drawing a fish in pen and was more loose with it, and ended up quickly drawing 3 and feeling more pleased with them
seems clear to me now that I should be drawing subjects I find cool in a style I think is cool, alongside the course, since it will actually get me drawing more (and drawing much more in-case I get filtered by the course for a day)
pic related is the sort of aesthetic I'm shooting for, more colorful, loose and simple than the sort of drawings I have to produce in the course

[Anonymous No.6579430]

>>6579105
What's with you faggots having obsession over muscle-clad women? This has no appeal at all.

[Anonymous No.6579432]

>>6579429
here's some stuff I did back in 2019 (gave up for 4 whole years, will not make that same mistake again)
not particularly great but I remember having fun with these at least, and I prefer them much more than anything I've drawn so far in Brent's course
just throwing it out there anyway, I think I cracked the code

[Anonymous No.6579446]

>>6579337
im sorry you want me to call you a dirty little liar or what? i said you told the truth

[Anonymous No.6579471]

anatomy is much more fun to draw when you know what you're doing

[Anonymous No.6579475]

please tell me how i can get better at painting?
i am literally just putting random strokes down, this cannot be efficient. is james gurney a good book for beginners?

[Anonymous No.6579477]

please tell me how i can get better at painting?
i am literally just putting random strokes down, this cannot be efficient. is james gurney a good book for beginners?

[Anonymous No.6579480]

>>6579477
learn 2 draw

[Anonymous No.6579485]

>>6579477
despite being right the previous anon said the answer in a really retarded way
bottom line is painting is only something you can do when you understand the forms of what you're painting and how the light interacts with those forms, which requires you to learn how to draw

[Anonymous No.6579499]

this is a lie

[Anonymous No.6579509]

feedback?

[Anonymous No.6579536]

>>6578803
The other poster is kind of being an arse, but I think his advice is good. Draw something more complex before your level can be assessed. It looks like you're working within a comfort zone. Challenge yourself, anon. I like it though and think you're moving in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.6579539]

>>6579387
>even wobblier than mine but solid perspective study
thanks. been trying to readjust to tablet drawing after going trad only for a while.

[Anonymous No.6579541]

>>6579477
Try watching some tutorials. U need to get an understanding on shapes and colors

[Anonymous No.6579542]

1/2

[Anonymous No.6579543]

>>6579542
2/2

[Anonymous No.6579544]

>>6579543
3/2
Harsh criticism pls

[Anonymous No.6579547]

>>6579544
Very beautiful, but your proportions are everywhere. Looks like she's ripping off her own head, desu

[Anonymous No.6579549]

>>6579544

for the last one the neck looks to skinny in my opinion. Also where are the nipples and chest?

[Anonymous No.6579567]

Is there a replacement for the mega link where it's all books that are in Japanese?
I had one that I used and liked for a while but lost the data and I forgot the title.

[Anonymous No.6579599]

>>6578992
no

[Anonymous No.6579609]

The skin on the side of my pinky finger is always irritated when I push it around on my paper. Am I doing something wrong? I have to draw in a hoodie with my sleeve covering it so it does not annoy me.

[Anonymous No.6579613]

>>6579544
>>6579543
>>6579542
I have nothing, you are not /beg/ enough for me to criticize

[Anonymous No.6579626]

>>6579387
>then just add hairstyle first to the sphere?
That's what I do, but I can see it would hinder my ability to draw bald people.

[Anonymous No.6579642]

What did I do wrong? Did I do anything right?

[Anonymous No.6579643]

[Anonymous No.6579644]

>>6579609
Some people hover their hand the whole time so that your pinky won't touch the paper/canvas. A lot of trad artists have to do this so that they don't smudge their work. Doing this for long sessions can tire out your shoulder. Others wear drawing gloves so you can glide your pinky/side of your palm on the paper/tablet.

[Anonymous No.6579645]

>>6579642
One toe looks amputated kek

[Anonymous No.6579646]

>>6579645
is it the right one after the big toe?

[Anonymous No.6579647]

>>6579642
cunny UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.6579650]

>>6579647
it's an adult splatoon idol

[Anonymous No.6579657]

>>6579477
Dude I was the same as you a year ago, watch somw tutorials on sketchibg on youtube and copy them, you will undestand the dinamics of drawing. Be patient

[Anonymous No.6579658]

>>6579509
You need shading , it looks 2d flat

[Anonymous No.6579659]

>>6579544
That's a man

[Anonymous No.6579662]

>>6578992
I was not eating meals for a while , because I needed to focus by being malnourished. It works.

[Anonymous No.6579669]

[Anonymous No.6579696]

>>6578646
Nice

[Anonymous No.6579704]

>>6579642
The wrists look like they're melting. Ankles too. I'd suggest studying how arms and legs are actually put together. Even if you want to keep a semi-cartoony style, it's easier to keep consistent if you know what you're stylizing.
I feel like the pussy and anus might be too visible and detailed compared to the rest of it. I get that you want to draw attention there, but it looks a bit tacky.
The eyes look like they're flat textures on a surface. In reality, they're spheres sunken into the skull, and you can see this simplified in the ref. The cheek and brow bulge out, enveloping the eyes. They're not anatomically realistic, but they're clearly inset in the face, and not painted on top of it.

[Anonymous No.6579708]

>>6579669
This looks sick as fuck!
Verry nice.
The boots really stoof out to me though, like you didn't finish them.
The clothing etc. is so well done and the boots just pop out because of that.
The legs should also be a bit longer proportion wise.

[Anonymous No.6579753]

Done some progress in my thing

[Anonymous No.6579764]

>>6579429
>>6579432
keep at it dude, I like your inspirations and judging by your earlier posts you have a very suave hand, which lends a lot to those

[Anonymous No.6579828]

Unrelated but
Do any of you feel paranoid over posting on /ic/. If so how do you deal with it?
I know I’m a literal nobody and /ic/ is actually one of the few places where I can get good feedback but it still makes me anxious and paranoid because I feel ashamed

[Anonymous No.6579867]

This isn’t a very good example but is relying on textured brushes a crutch?

[Anonymous No.6579897]

>>6579867
I cant stand not having a little texture.

[Anonymous No.6579913]

>>6579897
you can create texture with any non textured brush

[Anonymous No.6579917]

>>6579913
water is wet

[Anonymous No.6579920]

>>6579917
you're on beg and ic, stating the obvious isn't obvious around here

[Anonymous No.6579929]

>>6579920
answer op instead

[Anonymous No.6579937]

>>6579929
you cant force me to do that

[Anonymous No.6579980]

So I am posting more updates on the pic. Working on shading and Miang is still a pain to work with.

[Anonymous No.6580008]

>>6579980
>not finishing sketch
>shading
disaster ensues

[Anonymous No.6580023]

>>6576355
How am I holding up, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.6580025]

>>6576355
why does everything i make look so off?
Pic related.

It always ends up looking like a badly drawn manhwa

[Anonymous No.6580027]

>>6580025
Try shortening the jaw's height.

[Anonymous No.6580028]

>>6580023
>>6580025
the esdeath is back

[Anonymous No.6580029]

>>6580028
>esdeath
Please elaborate,

[Anonymous No.6580039]

how do you make writing in art look good/legible?
I'm slightly below /beg/ and can copy a bit
but my handwriting is awful and unappealing.
would like to pencil some little comics but writing in speech (bubbles) seems doomed to ruin them

[Anonymous No.6580076]

>>6580025
Learn proportions and general human form construction, your ears are beyond fucked.
Also flip your canvas now and then to check for symmetry.

[Anonymous No.6580140]

NEW THREAD
>>6580139
>>6580139
>>6580139

[Anonymous No.6580388]

>>6576355
Help me please, i have been trying to draw this SHITTY head for too long, not even with 3d reference i can pinpoint what the hell is wrong. Im tired, please

[Anonymous No.6581717]

I know /ic/ is mostly for 2d art but if someone wanted to learn 3d art what's the best way to do so?

[Anonymous No.6582101]

>>6581717
Sculpting