How the fuck do I do this?

[Anonymous No.6569749]

I've wanted to become a good artist so fucking badly for so long and now I'm finally putting in the effort to try but I'm not getting anywhere. I followed the sticky at the beginning but I already fucked up the lines and the placements leaving me to have to start all over. Not to mention I have perpetually shaky hands, I'm left handed and my ADHD makes me want to rush to completion. I'm trying to get back that hyperfocus I had when I was younger, but it doesn't seem to be coming back yet.

[Anonymous No.6569750]

/beg/s need mileage
lots of mileage

[Anonymous No.6569751]

>>6569749
PYW OR FUCK OFF

[Anonymous No.6569860]

>>6569751
I don't have it with me right now.

[Anonymous No.6569868]

That’s cuz you’re following the wrong guide. Do this one:

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

[Anonymous No.6569870]

post your work and I will give you some guidance

[Anonymous No.6569944]

>take drawing you like
>do your best to copy it without any tracing or the like
>repeat till it looks decent
Not the most efficient way to learn but it's fairly easy to see yourself getting better and notice what you need to improve

[Anonymous No.6569948]

>>6569944
but this IS the most efficient way to learn. Rubens copied the entire Sistine chapel as a student.

[Anonymous No.6569965]

>>6569944
>>6569948
No way that works, you need at least a couple years of fundamental practice before you successfully copy anything.

[Anonymous No.6569968]

>>6569965
a couple years? I don't know what you're talking about, the ability to copy another artist's work at 80-90% accuracy is one of the first things you have to learn before you even start studying fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.6569972]

>>6569965
fundamentals practice would be copying Loomis, Bridgman, and Morpho.

But copying is copying. It's the only way to learn.

[Anonymous No.6570036]

>>6569965
>stare at reference
>make a small mark
>repeat x100
you don't need fundamentals to do this and it improves your observation.

[Anonymous No.6570047]

>>6570036
>improves your observation
Not much else though.
You can't learn to actually draw anything yourself that way.

[Anonymous No.6570059]

>>6569965
>you need fundies to copy successfully
>>6570047
>okay fine you can copy but you won't learn anything
just accept that copying works for some people

[Anonymous No.6570067]

>>6569749
Peak NGMI energy

[Anonymous No.6570083]

>>6569749
the artists you like have had years of consistent practice and study under their belt. and im not talking about pro illustrators per se, because even artists that draw waifus in an appealing way still have thousands of sketches that they have done. this isnt /fit/ where you can follow a method and see results within a matter of weeks... if you dont learn to love the process of making art (even if it comes out looking beglet as fuck) then you're probably not cut out for this hobby.

[Anonymous No.6570088]

mileage is real. If I dont draw for 3 days, its like I never draw before in my life. You need to just accept your art and draw as much as you can.

[Anonymous No.6570092]

>>6570083
saved

[Anonymous No.6570095]

>>6569749
Dont rely on ur adhd ur only gonna have withdraws and lose interest. Push urself to draw each other and complete works. It needs to become a routine not a hobby if u wanna improve.
t. adhd haver

[Anonymous No.6570098]

>>6570083
there's so much that is being kept from OP though. These books and guides only say to draw a lot, they dont say
>which brush size to use
>optimal size to draw digitally
>good pressure curve to start out with
>how to find a comfortable pressure curve
>how to undo bad habits like drawing stiff figures
>how to fix shitty lines you're too used to drawing
>how to get better when you're experienced but /beg/

nobody wants to draw fucking flowers and apples all the time, and good artists never had to do that. They drew whatever they wanted and stumbled on the right ideas and got better fast, while other people are wandering around in the dark looking for the wall to find their way around when all they needed was a flashlight.

[Anonymous No.6570101]

>>6570083
What a blatant lie, don't listen to this guy.
Every good artist you like only draws things once and doesn't draw anything else ever.
Just focus on watching youtube tutorials, marketing yourself and learning the twitter algorithm while making artfriends on discord and drawing porn of the current anime show to get followers and money so you'll finally be rich and famous.

Loving the process is ngmi and actually liking to draw is pure cope.
If you draw the anime titties you will never have to get a real job! Remember; you are special and the world revolves around you!

[Anonymous No.6570104]

>>6570098
uever heard of google?

[Anonymous No.6570105]

>>6570098
>artists never had to do that.
you aren't one, so what do you know?

[Anonymous No.6570106]

>>6570105
please stop gaslighting, you dont draw random fruit or old men.

[Anonymous No.6570109]

>>6570098
Stop derailing beginners your piece of shit, any professional artist is capable of drawing all the fruits and old men you ask him to draw.

[Anonymous No.6570110]

>>6570109
Yoh Yoshinari btw

[Anonymous No.6570113]

>>6570109
>>6570110
>a guy who draws like that also draws anime girls
Those are two different people.
It's literally impossible for an artist to be able to draw in different styles.

[Anonymous No.6570114]

>>6570113
At least your shitty bait will be helpful for coping asg/ shitters.

[Anonymous No.6570117]

>>6570114
They are studying the twitter algorithm and got likes and followers and art friends on the discord. What do you have? Nothing. Not a single follower. Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.6570119]

>>6570113
https://www.artstation.com/krenz
https://www.artstation.com/fl84
https://www.artstation.com/cheesegamza

[Anonymous No.6570124]

>>6570119
Those are all multiple people.
Stop spreading misinformation.
If you draw in one style, you cannnot draw in another, it's mentalphysically impossible

[Anonymous No.6570130]

>>6570113
why does /ic/ have the shittiest trolls of all 4chan, you are pathetic man

[Anonymous No.6570134]

>>6570130
>he doesn't get it
Why are artists so stupid?

[Anonymous No.6570152]

>>6569749
draw for 5 years, then compare results, becoming a gud artist takes a shit-ton of time

[Anonymous No.6570158]

>>6570098
I guess you're just too stupid to read Loomis, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.6570189]

>>6570113
lmao

[Anonymous No.6570241]

>>6570158
I will never understand why Loomis is without fail the first book to be recommended to /beg/s on this board

[Anonymous No.6571121]

>>6570098
This.

[Anonymous No.6571124]

>>6570083
The fact the intermediate is naked is an important bit.
Laundry takes too much time you could use to spend drawing.

[Anonymous No.6571129]

>>6570189
>>6570114
>>6570130
>They mocked and hated him because he spoke the truth.

[Anonymous No.6571140]

>>6570098
>Brush size
>pressure cuve
First, Adjust your curve so you don't get small-end jitter and it doesn't take more than light pressure to get max size. This is ENTIRELY dependent on your SPECIFIC (not model, individual) tablet, as the calibrations vary, doubly so for a stinky chinky one with looser tolerances or a used one.

If you're painting, use as wide a range as possible. If lining, narrow it. If sketching then you can get different feels based on how wide/narrow you go - moderately wide is like a marker or brush pen, moderately narrow is closer to a pencil.

Some people like a slick feeling brush - Krita's defaults behave this way - while others like a rough feeling brush. You can adjust the tip shape and spacing and so on to suit your tastes. Slick is more like using a paint pen on glass at the extreme end, and rough is like using charcoal at the extreme end (with pencils being rough and oil paints or "normal digital" being smooth). Round for slick, with high flow/compressed spacing. And a pattern or triangle for rough, with wider spacing.

As a /beg/ - do not use a brush with anything other than full opacity. Holes in the brush from pattern (for rough brushes) are fine, but unlink opacity from being controlled by pressure and crank it to 100%. Yes even for painting. Painting requires layering full opacity colors over each other. Start out working on 1 layer, it helps you speed up. Just paint over mistakes.

Many things can be sovled by fixing your posture. I already explained to another anon here in another thread how to do that: >>6570477

Disable CTRL+Z when starting out. Hotkey your eraser to something comfy. Use Spacebar to pan around. These are almost universal for all drawing programs.

LEARN YOUR SOFTWARE! Picrel is a good method if you don't want to read the manual, or if you can't find a good 2+ hour tutorial.
(1/2)

[Anonymous No.6571160]

>>6570098
>>6571140
(2/2)
>how to get better when you're experienced

Choose an artist you like. Bring up some of their work, and a good representative image of yours next to it.

Ideally, the image of yours that you pick is an image as close to the image from the artist you admire as possible - in subject/tone/medium/style. And the image you pick of THEIRS is as close to representative of what you like about their art as possible.
If you DONT have any common images, try and utilize an image of yours that demonstrates that you are capable of something as good as or better then the artist you admire.
If you dont have a art piece that demonstrates something you are as good as from them, find an art piece that demonstrates something you want to improve in.

Now that you have these, compare and contrast with that artist.
Think about:
>What are things that you are as good or better as that artist at?
>What are some things that you want to LEARN from that artist that you cant do yet?
>What are some things that you absolutely don't want to learn or do from that artist?
These can be technique, but aren't limited to it. It can be things like design, storytelling, color choices, angles, poses, idea-combinations, and so on. And so on.

Then, list off or put in a venn diagram:

>Things I am better then them at or equal to
>Things I want to learn from them
>Things I say "fuck that" and don't want to study or duplicate
--
All of this helps isolate what you what you improve on so you can focus your efforts, and self-examine what you like so you can attract an audience that also likes what you like.
You can do this using directors, animators, musicians, game designers/devs, etc as well, not just visual artists. It simply takes some more abstraction to figure out how to take lessons from what you like about their work.

[Anonymous No.6572288]

Start by knowing what it is you want to achieve. What style do you like? What specifically do you want to draw? Which artists do you like? Go take a look at Pixiv, Twitter, Artstation and find the answers to these questions.

Once you've followed artists you like and have taken a look at their work, you should have an idea of what it is you want to achieve. Narrowing this down will help you focus on learning only what you need to learn.

Assuming it's character illustration you're interested in, learn the following:
Construction
Form and perspective (creating illusion of 3D space)
Proportions and anatomy

Break things down into their most primitive forms. Take the torso as an example (pic related) - it can be broken down into two distinct shapes, overserve and understand how these two shapes move and rotate, manipulate their position in 3D space. Draw the torso from multiple angles in a variety of poses, once you feel comfortable with its shape, move onto another body part. Once you've learned to draw the body using primitive forms, build on top of it by learning about muscle, fat, and bony landmarks.

[Anonymous No.6572291]

>>6572288
It will take a lot of practice, and your art may not look great in the beginning. But keep at it, eventually you'll get to the point where you will no longer need to construct primitive shapes, you'll be able to draw just by feeling out the forms and 3D space in your mind, it'll become like second nature, but only after a lot of practice! Keep at it!

[Anonymous No.6572911]

>>6569749
>ADHD
NGMI
t. ADHD

[Anonymous No.6573183]

>>6571129
>mad enough to give double reply
lmao, kek too

[Anonymous No.6573185]

>>6570109
pic unrelated I assume

[Anonymous No.6573194]

>>6573185
>>6570130

[Anonymous No.6573198]

>>6573194
>say fact
>y-you're trolling!
every time lmao

[Anonymous No.6573203]

>>6572288
>Once you've followed artists you like and have taken a look at their work, you should have an idea of what it is you want to achieve
What happens if you've followed thousands of artists and you have an inking of the style in your head you want to put down to paper, but you have no idea how to get there, and find that no artist actually sees things the way you see them?

[Anonymous No.6573205]

>6573198
You are trying so hard anon, here another you to make your miserable life a bit better

[Anonymous No.6573207]

>>6570083
>this isnt /fit/ where you can follow a method and see results within a matter of weeks...
Actually it is. There is a real method to bruteforce artists into existence. It ain't pretty, but it works.

[Anonymous No.6573210]

>unable to reply to me
I got the last word btw

[Anonymous No.6573213]

>>6573207
Did it work for you?

[Anonymous No.6573216]

>>6573213
I haven't done it myself because I'm not Chinese.

[Anonymous No.6573798]

>>6569749
Are you on ADHD meds?

[Anonymous No.6574015]

made some posts here
>>6572895
>>6573985
>>6574008
I read through this thread and even searched out advice in the archive and found some from tableguy, about just drawing whatever you want, but I've tried and can't manage it since what I draw looks like utter shit and I hate it, and the fundies grind to get to that point is sapping my spirit
I know it's a bad idea to look at other people's art and feel dismayed, but it genuinely feels like what I desire is impossibly out of reach. I feel like if I'm struggling with motivation at the early stages of Brent's course, I'll undoubtedly get filtered later down the road once things become even more challenging and grind-necessary
fundamentally I just want pretty pictures without putting in the work. that's the honest truth. either that, or a rock solid guarantee that if I stick with the grind I WILL get to where I want to be, but that's obviously impossible to know

[Anonymous No.6574319]

>>6573203
Be creative then