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Guys how do you do the first exercise of Vlippus figure drawing manual?

>> No.6562489

>>6562457
>Vlippus
vilppu is for int
try brent eviston figure drawing

>> No.6562500

>>6562489
The manual says it’s for beginners

>> No.6562506

>>6562457
Is it the gesture part? You don’t. It’s basically just some Obi Wan thing about flow. There are other books that describe the concept better, like How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way.

>> No.6562507

>>6562500
Of course every learn to draw book is gonna market itself for beginners to get more sales, but it'd still be rough for a true beginner to do well with Vilppu, without having learned how to see and copy first. This is why you see endless /beg/ posts of "I've been doing vilppu/loomis/whatever figure course for weeks", and their art looks like 2003 deviantart with bad proportions, flat volumes, and shaky lines.

>> No.6562513

read the sticky and actually follow the order

>> No.6562515

>>6562500
/ic/ "intermediates" are still beginners by real world standards

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>>6562507
>>6562506
>>6562489
>>6562513
>>6562515
All I ever hear from this board is contradictions. One thread they say Loomis the other they say DAB. If I had began this thread with
>Guys how do you do the first exercise of Vlippus figure drawing manual?

I guarantee the first response would’ve been “eviston is for int try vlippu’s drawing manual”

Look. I decided to just pick something and start. I’m tired of doing this gay jumping around. I am not a frog. Tell me how to do the exercise and if you don’t know then get the fuck out of my thread.

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>>6562519
Everything else is a meme, good luck.

>> No.6562549

>>6562457
>>6562519
you're supposed to supplement the book with the video lessons

>> No.6562553

>>6562519
>Step 1: learn to see and copy
Keys to Drawing, Drawing on the Right side of the Brain, Ctrl+Paint, or Dorian Iten's accuracy guide if you want it abridged. Pick one and finish it. Also practice shapes and basic volumes, Brent Eviston's is my favorite for this.
>Step 2: figure drawing
Vilppu, Loomis, Huston, even Proko. Pick one and finish it.
>Step 2.5: perspective
Just as important as 2, especially if your figures are looking flat, or wobbly, plenty books and courses on the subject.
>Step 3 and beyond: detail
Go for w/e you still feel like you are missing. Detailed backgrounds, detailed anatomy, mechs and vehicles, highly detailed coloring and rendering, etc.

>> No.6562636

>>6562553
>Brent Eviston's is my favorite for this.
which one?

>> No.6562646

>>6562519

You have to jump around like a frog. No source has all the answers for you in 1 box. It's your own choose your adventure book where not every method will work for you but all the fundamentals are the same.

>> No.6562786

>>6562636
It's probably The Art & Science of Drawing / FORM & SPACE course.

>> No.6562791

>>6562519
>>6562546
Loomis, Vilppu, Hampton, Bridgman, they all teach the SAME things. It's all just 3d form.

Anons on here get defensive about the first course they picked and followed through on, but really, they all work. I am personally a Vilppu-fanatic, but I'll acknowledge Loomis and other sources too. There are no contradictions

>>6562457
They're just stick figures, op. Just mimic them best you can, then move on. Spend only 1 week per chapter, then cycle through the book over and over again. The later chapters inform the earlier chapters.

>> No.6562840

>>6562791
Vlippu says he has his students do some of the exercises for 6 hours

>> No.6562847

>>6562457
Vilppu is honestly the best figure drawing book for beginners. It's hard at first but what helped me was watching his lectures because you can visually see him doing the stuff from the book

>> No.6562879

>>6562840
Traditional life drawing classes at art schools last from morning to evening, with a morning session and an evening session. Those 6 hours of gestures are all done in one day.

>> No.6562886

>>6562791
>Loomis, Vilppu, Hampton, Bridgman, they all teach the SAME things. It's all just 3d form.
NOoooOOoo LoOmIIS Is ThE bEssTTIEIEIEIEEIEIEE broOOooOOOOO.

Or maybe it was Vilppu, idk.

What about you anonreader, what's -your- favorite mangaka from which everyone should learn cause they are the absolute best in the WHOLE FRIGGING WORLD my nigga? Let's make a poll and set this up once and for all.

>> No.6565303

>>6562553
>Not mentioning Hampton

>> No.6565416

>>6562457
Are you talking about the lesson where it has 4 steps, starting with the head? What do you mean "how do you do the first exercise"? It literally tells you what to do step by step!

Do you mean you're not sure what to draw? Go to a figure drawing website, or use some reference photos and draw from them.

As for whether this was the best book to start from? Sure. Honestly the best option is just choosing an artist you think has good art, and people rate the book highly, regardless of who it is. It's better to start and draw then to sit there studying "where to start?"
Personally I say starting with a cartoon drawing book is the best option, but if you want to start with realistic figures first, they'd only demoralise you and make drawing uninteresting.

>>6562791
What about Jack Hamm?