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Appreciation thread for the best art book i've ever read to this day. This book mogs every other book that i see recommend daily on here and I dont understand how its never mentioned. It might genuinely be cursed by some demon of drawing because it works like actual magic. Seriously read this shit. Take the Kimonpill

>> No.6553000

what makes it so good imo is that it teaches you how to obseve and actually transfer what you see onto the paper. The exercises are a little hardcore like do 5 hours of this boring ass thing. But what i recommend is you simply do them at your own pace, just as long as you keep doing them and youll see your drawing skills improve

>> No.6553137

>>6553000
that's what I usually drew my back, I preferd dong drawing comics the marvel way for guidelines and Bridgman for cool muscles as David Finch says, Marshall Vandruff says it's more useful if you intend to draw from life but not as good as Brifgman for designing and constructing the figure. And I mix Bridgman cool muscles with some of Vilppu soft tummies when drawing female characters.

Speaking of which, did Vilppu ever give away what were his favorite books like Marshall and Will Weston did, not that I'm expecting to find some super secret technique revelation, I was just curious on what inspired him to become the God he is today.

>> No.6553190

>>6552997
>>6553000
You need to defend this trash book better, Opie, because Nicolaides asks you to do hours and hours of BLIND CONTOUR. I dare you to name a more useless exercise than that.

>> No.6553194

>>6553137
Vilppu has a recommended books Amazon page:

https://www.amazon.com/shop/glennvilppu?fbclid=IwAR23JBbfkuFzXO7hl5cg_qmOEypq9nSTa4gg4EzGo7njExFycomMQAVGVX8

>> No.6553209

>>6553194
Interesting, surprised he's more focused on anatomy books considering I see him a God of Gesture and Figure drawing with his boxes and spheres rather than emphsasis on muscles.

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>>6553194
>check list
>has 3 different cookware sets
>has a bunch of rubens books
is vilppu an architect?

>> No.6553216

>>6553209
Vilppu's figure drawing program is actually very balanced. His method of rendering is way more rigorous than other people's methods, but it's closer to how Michelangelo would've thought about light and shadow.

>> No.6553249

>>6553190
let me guess you didnt do the exercises

>> No.6553266
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>>6552997
i actually read it and did almost all grind in it. I wont deny that i improved but honestly it would be impossible to draw for 4 months and somehow dodge improving.

pic related is my mini review. The book sure is unique and stuff, but yeah i didnt like it that much for the actual drawing part. The little theory in it is neat.

>> No.6553277

>>6553194
>>6553216
which is why it makes me question how he came up to be so good at teaching Figure drawing and he doesn't recommend Figure drawing books.

On a side note, all those books about Michelangelo and Rubens came with handwritten notes of their ideas on how they apprached drawing at the Renaissance or they're just pictures with no explanations? I doubt those great master knew much about teaching per se. Vilppu really is a God if he came up with all his understanding and approaches on his own.

>> No.6553312

>>6553266
The reason i shill the book is because of its ability to help you learn how to observe the subject and transfer what you see unto the paper. I obviously would agree it can be a time dump if you follow the course it provides in the book, but doing specially the contours and gestures repeatedly it will help you so much when it comes time to draw a figure drawing from reference. At least that has been my experience.

I usually do this
>cant draw the reference correctly
>do contours
>fixed

>drawings feel stiff
>do gestures
>fixed

this is one of the few books ive read that puts heavy enfasis on these and explains them well

>> No.6553318

>>6553249
I’ve also never eaten rat poison, but I know that’s unhealthy for me

>> No.6553321

>>6553266
I don’t see Loomis, Bridgman, or Vilppu on that list. How can you be skipping all the good books, Pawell?

>> No.6553325

>>6553318
>unhealthy
anon all the great artists are dead

>> No.6553336

>>6552997
It isn't talked about because no one on /ic/ actually draws. They just hoard books and possibly skim through them in hopes of improving.

>> No.6553352

>>6552997
No book will teach you to hate drawing more than this one.

>> No.6553356

>>6552997
I definitely think this was a good book back when it was released (1941), I think it might be worth looking at rewriting/editing the book for the modern day since some of the exercises might be outdated but I'm sure a lot of people would benefit from having a schedule where they have specific things to practice instead of just floating around doing whatever.

>> No.6553607

Kimon Nicolaïdes?
More like Cum-on Niggertitties!

>> No.6553622

>>6552997
I won't read it, but I have a question, does it mentions anything about using a hanging piece of clothing as substitute of a model if you don't have access for one? If so which page lads

>> No.6553861

>>6553321
>skipping
they are on my TODO list. i am just a little beg and i must build up before attempting these. after i complete bargue i will do 2 or 3 perspective books then its loomis time.

>> No.6553954

>>6553861
How's Bargue compared to Keys to Drawing and Eviston so far?

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Although we now know that the "right hemisphere is spatial and left is logical" is not correct, this book is still the best simply because it is the most straightforward. It will (in a short period of time) give you a solid base to move on to other books specializing in the proposed topics, such as shading or perspective.