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Artkeks... AI can do hands now.... What's your response?

>> No.6536581

good artist know ai is a tool

>> No.6536582

>>6536572
the same time wasted as the average tracer
hope you're proud lol

>> No.6536584

>>6536572
sage and hide

>> No.6536590

>>6536572
Exhilarating

>> No.6536592

>>6536582
But does the average tracer improve and get new features in the same rate as AI?

>> No.6536603

>>6536572
yucky

>> No.6536604

So what's the new brushmonkey cope going to be?

>> No.6536611

>>6536604
in 30 years what will it be? can you guess?

>> No.6536613

i'll go draw

>> No.6536618

>>6536572
Even with guidance it still fucked up the right hand. AI pals are blind.

>> No.6536628

>>6536572
those hands dont suit her
its not dynamic and not feminine
AI needs to do hand gesture studies

>> No.6536631

>>6536628
not to mention her shoulder dislocating.
I long for the day AI makes nice art. Thanks for beta testing AIfags.

>> No.6536632

I will redeem

>> No.6536633

>>6536604
Nothing. Giving more control over AI instead of having it as a glorified gatcha engine is something I welcome in fact. And knowing art fundies will just make handling AI better.

>> No.6536635
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6536635

It's not worth getting angry about AI. Work on your craft. No meaningful conversation is going to happen here, only caca flinging.

>> No.6536637 [DELETED] 

>>6536633
yup, once artists feel like I they are in total control, and have it trained on their own styles... they'll btfo all these AIfags with no sense for image making.

>> No.6536642

Humans won't be able to compete against it in around 5 decades at all. Compared to AI chess where most humans can't beat any of the best AIs even though it took decades for AIs to get at that level, for AI art it is also only a matter of time before it's not only faster but better than anything a human could ever possibly create. I'm throwing the towel and moving on to something more physical because robots are still expensive to mass produce

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>>6536633
yup, once artists feel like I they are in total control, and have it trained on their own styles... they'll btfo all these AIfags with no sense for image making.

>> No.6536644
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6536644

>>6536642
For me art is all about artist's taste. I'm not improving my anatomy, gestures, color, i'm improving my taste in anatomy, gestures, color.
>>6536635
/thread

>> No.6536646

>>6536642
>robots are still expensive to mass produce
AI will figure out how to cut costs. hell they might skip robotics all together and go straight for replicants.

>> No.6536650
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>>6536646
You are tech-retard

>> No.6536651

>>6536646
>t.finally getting 2B pussy

>> No.6536655

>>6536650
??? I'm just repeating what I hear from Kurzweil and co.

>> No.6536666
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>>6536655
You must to go back

>> No.6536669

>>6536666
just tell me exactly were I am wrong>>6536646
, if you can't, concede faggot.

>> No.6536672

>>6536635
this is honestly /thread for a majority of the posts on the board at this point. i left in mid-2022 and most of the ai-posts and arguments are a carbon copy of the ones from back then. i feel like i'm going insane, basically seeing the same thread with a different title over and over and over and over and over and

>> No.6536674

>>6536572
well well well. what did i tell you fags? it didn’t even take a year for AI to correct hands and allow dynamic posing. suddenly the “AI cAnT dRaW hAnDs” meme looks fucking cringe and stupid.

and it’s going to get worse. you can’t just bury your heads in the sand about it. we need real discussions on what to do. if /pol/ can coordinate things like memeing the election and making national news, why can’t /ic/ do the same? are the artists here really this retarded?

out of all the boards on this mongolian basket weaving forum, /ic/ is one of the most low iq, illiterate and ironically the least creative board i’ve ever known. that’s why there are no good memes from here; even /lit/ has the “there could be niggers everywhere” copypasta.

if you can’t stand up to the AI menace you deserve to get bullied and steamrolled out of existence by poos.

>> No.6536675

>>6536572
Wake me up when it's more than a random waifu gacha and actually useful

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>>6536572
>AI shilling is not a meme
What's your endgame?

>> No.6536681

>>6536672
Like I said before,all of these threads are probably made by the same faggot
I'm considering quitting or just limiting myself to two general threads like /artbook/ and /asg/

>> No.6536683

>>6536674
>well well well. what did i tell you fags? it didn’t even take a year for AI to correct hands and allow dynamic posing. suddenly the “AI cAnT dRaW hAnDs” meme looks fucking cringe and stupid.
still can't retard. that depth map is not from SD. you still need artists help. (or be the artist and pose the hands yourself)

>> No.6536685

>>6536572
it's truly over, yet again

>> No.6536687

>>6536672
That's this whole site really. If earlier 4chan was a mischievous child fucking around for fun, current 4chan is a degenerate schizo stuck in psychotic loops.

>> No.6536691

>>6536674
>if /pol/ can coordinate things like memeing the election and making national news, why can’t /ic/ do the same? are the artists here really this retarded?
Give Artists your energy guys! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.6536692

>>6536687
Kids grow up,but not always the way we wanted to

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>>6536687
>pic rel

>> No.6536694

>>6536691
\o/

>> No.6536698

>>6536674
what's your job?

>> No.6536699

>>6536678
I was convinced this whole time it was just some /pol/ schizo neet but now I'm more under the belief it's a stability employee. Someone mentioned they're trying to keep the topic trending on all social media to fluff up investors which explains the spam more.

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6536700

Can AI generate memes?

>> No.6536710

>>6536683
you don’t need to be an artist to pose a puppet. even children can make their action figures pose in the way they want. once these guys streamline this for ease of use, which i guarantee will happen, it’s over for artists.

>> No.6536711

>>6536698
freelance artist. i am perfectly aware of how this “””tool””” is going to affect my career and i am not delusional about it.

>> No.6536712
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6536712

Anons, can you all stop interacting with this proxy-nigger?
He is baiting and samefagging

>> No.6536713

>>6536681
quitting /ic/ was good for me, give it a try anon. i only came back to see if anything's changed, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like that's the case.
>>6536681
it sucks, but i guess that's the nature of anon posting sites. i just want a place where i can talk / shitpost about art stuff occasionally, but this board (and a lot of the other modern art / social media websites) isn't really usable anymore. i just wanna talk to people online about my hobby but it seems like its becoming harder and harder to do without getting assaulted with hundreds of useless time wasting garbage posts

>> No.6536716

>>6536710
If you are making art with intent you are the artist. YWNBAA applies to AIfags who do prompt gatcha only.

>> No.6536715

>>6536713
2nd reply was meant for
>>6536687

>> No.6536718

>>6536716
great. so any retard who duct tapes a banana on the wall is an artist according to your logic. what makes proompters any different if they can just proompt with intent?

>> No.6536723

>>6536718
Yes, duct tape banana man is an artist, it's not some great label...
>what makes proompters any different if they can just proompt with intent?
because they can't really, it's a case of I'll know it when I see it... if they had intent they would be frustrated never getting it.

>> No.6536729

>>6536699
4chan is definitely the first website Investors look. Schizo

>> No.6536730

>>6536713
>>6536681 here and you are so fucking right,no site is really good nowadays
What I see is some people making closed Discord servers to discuss and share art
When done right, things go smoothly

>> No.6536731

>>6536700
Can't imagine ai making anything as unfunny and degenerate. You're right

>> No.6536733

>>6536572
While that's nice, those are some manhands holy shit.
Give me a picture of Chihaya Ohtori from Rewrite lifting a truck, then I'll be convinced AI is the future.
Otherwise, fuck off.

>> No.6536735

>>6536723
>if they had intent they would be frustrated never getting it.
can’t you see how subjective your argument is? who’s the arbiter of what intent is in the first place? the proompter could easily tell you it took him a whole 2 minutes to find something close to what he prompted. manual artists often fall short of their vision too with their limited r echnical skill, which is why you have the polished turd thread here.

>> No.6536737

Why this shit still up?
MOOODDDSSS

>> No.6536739
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>>6536572
That's cool AI-bro, but I'm still going to draw and I'm sill going to love every minute of it.

>> No.6536742

>>6536730
violet clovers is the closest to when /ic/ was good like the conceptart.org days. sensitive normies still get filtered too. i think it was just a week ago some
normie left the server because the local retard joked about how he hoped her charity art was a scam and that she pocketed the money.

>> No.6536745

>>6536572
> Have to specifically tell program “make THESE hands“
Do AIjeets really?

>> No.6536750

>>6536742
I heard about this server sometime ago in a thread
I even considered joining,but I prefer grinding a little more before

>> No.6536755

>>6536735
I see how. You are right, there art prompters who have intent and get it, and manual artist who fall short. I was being too egocentric, speaking from my own experiences prompting, having intent that was beyond the capability of SD with prompts alone.

>> No.6536757

>>6536742
What is the age range? I've visited zoomer filled discords... Never again.

>> No.6536764

The time necessary to get good in art is less than perfecting AI
And guess which one these retards chose

>> No.6536768
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6536768

I feel we're rushing a bit too much in this AI thing. It can never be more than what we put into it and we're feeding it the things we collectively want and pay attention to. Nothing bad there in itself, but then think about the things the modern person finds salient: entertainment, consumer products, social status, easy animal pleasures (food, sex), money, etc. AI is going to optimize for that and reflect it right back to us. I don't really see the utopia techbros seem to believe in. AI is gonna make a lot of money for a few people and there's no way it won't be used for control in all aspects of life(and likely in deviously subtle ways) as it simultaneously feeds us shiny new things to look at

>> No.6536773

>>6536750
you do you. it has a lot of useful resources and you aren’t forced to post art in there though.

>>6536757
i think they skew on the older side, i seen someone in their 40s posting but most seem to be in their mid 20s and up. the general vibe feels more mature and chill.

>> No.6536775

>>6536731
It's not supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be pornographic

>> No.6536777

>>6536768
Just more things that are already happening. Nothing is stopping you to use AI for other things.

>> No.6536787

>follow a obscure artist
>have commissioned a few pieces before
>throw his name into stable diffusion
>the result is 95% just as good
Scary stuff

>> No.6536792

>>6536773
So I'm going to join anytime soon
Thanks anon
And jannies clean up this shit ffs

>> No.6536797

>>6536787
You mean "an" obscure.
"95% just as good" is also unnatural
"95% as good" would be correct.

>> No.6536801

>>6536797
Sorry anon I'm etl

>> No.6536803

>>6536729
Not impossible
Like it or not, 4chan is not a sekrit club

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>>6536729
They actually are. Imagine being this much of a newfaggot.

>> No.6536805

>>6536572
the thumb looks like a pinky

>> No.6536806

>>6536775
Are you sure about that?

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>>6536572
Do the needful. AI cannot redeem toilets. Please add toilets to your anime girls floating in voids.

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>>6536572
In order for AI to draw hands, you need to draw it properly first.
Really?

>> No.6536810

>>6536801
Hindi,Bengali, English?

>> No.6536812

>>6536572
Who cares about hands? Return when it can do realistic vagina creases and folds.

>> No.6536815

>>6536812
They'll just use a depth map like the hands for that.

>> No.6536825

>>6536810
Finnish, swedish, English and hopefully soon Japanese

>> No.6536828

>>6536628
>>6536631
I admire the depths of goalpost shifting /ic/ can come up with, other forums have long given up.

That being said, controlnet is good news for artists, not bad news. It takes a lot of art skill and effort to use controlnet, since now the human is in charge of composition. This benefits artists

>> No.6536836

>>6536581
You’re the tool, it is the artist