/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6533021]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6529738

[Anonymous No.6533027]

First for work hard every day and achieve your dreams. You can do it!

[Anonymous No.6533038]

>>6533027

[Anonymous No.6533055]

I'm having trouble getting used to digital medium
any good tutorials for learning?
so far I found a decent pack of pencils I like, plus the brush I modified myself, but I feel like I'm stuck in a rut of subpar sketches
I tried to draw a cartoon figure and ended up with pic rel
I think my set up and routine is just optimized for this kind of style, but I want to try cartoons

[Anonymous No.6533065]

>>6533055
First of all pick a background color.
Most pick some kind of grayish color since it's easier on the eyes instead of stark white.
Second have you looked into thge setting of your tablet?

Often you need to force the tablet to match your screens resolution if it's screenless.
It will take some getting used to aswell, for me it took months and it'll never be the same as trad.
Getting to the cartoony style is simplification of more realistic so think about what lines you can simplify or even delete and still have it convey the image.

[Anonymous No.6533073]

drawing I did of a character to be used in roleplay.

[Anonymous No.6533084]

>>6533021
The sticky is 400 pages long. Can anybody tell me why we have to resize our images? Also this is the culmination of me learning basic PS techniques for the past month. I'm really proud of it. I used lots of clever techniques like layers and masks to make this photobash. I tried to make it look like the fish is jumping out of the water in the glass. Now that I learned some basic photoshop I am moving on to learning basic figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.6533087]

>>6533065
here is what I came up with
I didn't change the background yet because I don't know how

[Anonymous No.6533090]

>>6533087
???
literally just make a new layer and fill it with the bucket tool and put it as the last layer at the bottom of your layer stack and then lock it so that you don't accidentally draw on it.

[Anonymous No.6533102]

Side profile practice

[Anonymous No.6533105]

>>6533102
Cow for fun

[Anonymous No.6533107]

>>6533105
Is it okay if I redline this? Also, I love cow bikinis

[Anonymous No.6533109]

>>6533107
Since when do you need permission? Sure, knock yourself out.

[Anonymous No.6533120]

Griiiiind

[Anonymous No.6533121]

[Anonymous No.6533125]

>>6533105
>>6533109

[Anonymous No.6533126]

>>6533121
hot

[Anonymous No.6533134]

>>6533125
She's not a symbol anymore, nice job.

[Anonymous No.6533135]

>>6533134
if it not observation drawing then it;s symbol. according to person who coined term

[Anonymous No.6533138]

Haven't mastered drawing a BBW character. Any thoughts?
Still don't know how to properly portray a fat belly wrapped in belts.

[Anonymous No.6533142]

Is it normal to still not be able to construct torsos after 2 years of grinding? I can painfully copy from a reference but as soon as I need to adjust the angle slightly or change the arms everything just goes to shit.

[Anonymous No.6533146]

>>6533142
either you're retarded, overthinking it or you just need to go brush up on your anatomy and draw the actual muscles in your drawing

[Anonymous No.6533158]

>>6533021
How and when study anatomy?
This question still bugs me since some people say to not just copy

[Anonymous No.6533165]

>>6533142
I refuse to believe you "grinded" for two years

[Anonymous No.6533167]

Anyone know any guides for switching from digital to traditional? Everything I find is the opposite. Or just any good traditional pencil videos that aren't fucking pencil scratch asmr

[Anonymous No.6533170]

>>6533165
To be realistic 2 years ago I was new to drawing/never picked up a pencil before level. I grinded a lot of stuff including figures and can draw and render legibly now. The problem is I can only xerox a reference or 3d model and can't do any modifications to it, I don't know how to go about practicing drawing torsos or any other body part for that matter.

[Anonymous No.6533172]

>>6533142
after 2years? not really, try "michael hampton figure drawing design and invention"
it doesn't look bad, just need more gesture and confidence

>>6533158
i'm covering few fundies every day
example:
monday: 30min of gestures, 2 perspective sketches, 30min figure, 2 loomis heads, 4 hands, 2feet, 1 sketch with all of it
tuesday: few quick gestures, 1h anatomy, 1 perspective exercise, 2h of hands, 5 dicks, 10 boobs, 3 vagene
wednesday(let's say day off): 1h of doodles, 2h of concept fun

and so on

[Anonymous No.6533179]

>>6533138
Her torso looks a bit too long but apart from that, she does look pretty fat i guess. I'll have to admit her design is hideous, though, it's like you were hired by ubisoft to design a watchdogs villain.

[Anonymous No.6533188]

>>6533172
Nice example anon
And what about muscles and bones?

[Anonymous No.6533197]

>>6533172
jesus christ that’s impressive don’t get me wrong but don’t you guys have jobs or school or depression ?

[Anonymous No.6533201]

>>6533197
Yes

[Anonymous No.6533202]

>>6533121
I rike

[Anonymous No.6533208]

>>6533188
tuesday example has 1h of anatomy there, hampton(fun beg tier book) will cover most basics and there's enough anatomy books and pictures on internet to experiment

[Anonymous No.6533219]

>>6533087
When you make a new document I bet there's an background option.

[Anonymous No.6533221]

>>6533197
(example guy)
i'm a farmer, my gf lives with me, and that example is max 5h(it starts to be fun and easy after 2h, second nature after 4)

ok i'm busy drawing so bye and just draw everyday

[Anonymous No.6533229]

>>6533021
I continue to recover

[Anonymous No.6533290]

>>6533219
I just added a colored layer like another anon said

[Anonymous No.6533337]

>>6533055
watch ctrl+paint, use a big canvas (2000px square), use small brush <6px. Draw a bunch of circles to get used to the tablet.

>>6533134
just remember that that body can stretch, wedge, twist.

[Anonymous No.6533349]

I drew a spider
tried not to sketch and it took a while to get the shading and perspective down. Legs, shading, and eyes could be better.
https://youtu.be/SqZNMvIEHhs

[Anonymous No.6533351]

i want to learn figure drawing. is hampton or loomis' book easier to start off? ill go through them both but im a complete beg so i dont wanna get overwhelmed.

[Anonymous No.6533359]

>>6533351
Stick with one of them first and see what works best for you
You can switch if it doesn't work

[Anonymous No.6533371]

>>6533337
>watch ctrl+paint, use a big canvas (2000px square), use small brush <6px. Draw a bunch of circles to get used to the tablet.

I always wonder if people who give this kinda generic advice have done it themselves, or just learned by doing.
I'm not knocking you, by the way, I'm in the same boat as the other anon.

[Anonymous No.6533383]

>>6533208
Interesting, I'm going to try this
Thanks for the tips anon
If anyone else here has tips on this topic send please,I'm curious to see what you think

[Anonymous No.6533388]

>>6533371
not him but that’s about what i do. getting used to the tablet takes some time, but like, maybe a few hours at most.

i’ve always thought those connect the dots drawings you do as a kid might be good practice for getting used to a tablet or digital pen/brush. but i can never be assed to find one.

[Anonymous No.6533393]

>>6533371
non taken no need to apologize its valid criticism, all advice I give are things that have worked me so far. I find crtl+paint content very digestible and solve many beg problems. For the brush size in digital with so many options and the ability to zoom the canvas is really easy to go thicker without know, the problem with thickness is that it is easy to the end product looking very cramped like >>6533087. the draw a bunch of circles I'm believer in proper motor skills control drills in order to improve draftsmanship.

[Anonymous No.6533397]

anyone else here find contour drawing cool?
i think it gives drawings a really fun style.

also i love drawing corvids and birds in general, is there any material for a couple of weeks old newbie that particularly explains structuralization for avians?
like, is there a loomis method for birds and so on.

[Anonymous No.6533400]

>>6533397
check john muir laws, easily my favorite lecture on construction without trying to be one, have in my this is more nature journals but you can learn a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKV0WFF63WA

[Anonymous No.6533401]

>>6533400
keep in mind*

[Anonymous No.6533412]

>>6533400
thanks! ill definitely check this out this weekend

[Anonymous No.6533431]

critique me pls

[Anonymous No.6533441]

are there any good youtube guides for perspective?

[Anonymous No.6533466]

>>6533055

Tons of tutorial on youtube.

Photoshop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOQ0A46IAGI

ClipStudio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cwfkCl8fwo

Krita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z06RRp81iDM

[Anonymous No.6533470]

>>6533441

MDJ

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHIsM_edYkaS_PC6R-A4PRiRD2tn8XINp

[Anonymous No.6533475]

is there anything about drawing deliberately stiff poses such as someone standing at attention?

[Anonymous No.6533495]

>>6533470
thank you ill watch all of them

[Anonymous No.6533503]

>>6533431

[Anonymous No.6533516]

>>6533503
i tried "fixing" the akward arm position by trying to show where the other arm is but still feels off

[Anonymous No.6533585]

>>6533349
I'm no spider expert, hell I haven't even looked at any spiders in the last few years. But even I know that the legs only come out of the torso and not the abdomen or the face. So how can someone who probably likes spiders fuck that one up so much?

[Anonymous No.6533615]

Where can I learn how to color? My sketches are slowly becoming okay enough for coloring (or at least, I think i should probably start learning), but I've been grinding just sketches for months. Is it easier to learn how to color and shade than draw?

[Anonymous No.6533623]

>>6533585
The ref I used made it hard to see where the final leg attached as the colors blended and camouflaged eachother. It isn't too jarring in the drawing though.

I drew this a few days ago. it took longer but I feel like I put less effort into it than the spider.

[Anonymous No.6533627]

>>6533615

Maybe start learning to build forms with values first. Learn light and shadow. Then move on to colors.

[Anonymous No.6533628]

>>6533627
That's a really good idea actually, thanks anon. I could seamlessly practice sketches and then adding values to them

[Anonymous No.6533630]

>>6533623

then find more ref in different angle...

[Anonymous No.6533654]

v2 of my shape generator tool is done, now supports blobs and options now working as expected.
I created this tool in hopes to have a simple, fast and reliable way to improve my proportions and accuracy. Sorry for the ugly URL is the easiest way to host the app and keep being anon. Hope someone here find it useful. Now I will keep drawing.

https://script.google.com/macros/s/AKfycbyiJNNMCUdVUJjT3z1npNSMghWXgTg1Q9HRNB724hE2hPeZ-1LEIR9XUGlFoh3Kuw6NAQ/exec

[Anonymous No.6533656]

>>6533229
these are some beautiful values

[Anonymous No.6533658]

I'm so fucking tired of being a filthy fucking beg

[Anonymous No.6533659]

Was looking at some sketchbooks for inspo and man this Wendling guy drew quite a few fappable lolis in what looks like the 1890s, wtf

[Anonymous No.6533668]

>>6533659
showing the potencial of degeneracy since 1800s

[Anonymous No.6533674]

>>6533654
Looks nifty

[Anonymous No.6533743]

>>6533235
What's a genki face?

[Anonymous No.6533774]

loomis said that if you construct with basic forms youll be able to draw something that looks solid just from the outline but i dont really know what hes talking about. my proportions are fucked but i thought the construction would at least make it look like something like he implies it would.

[Anonymous No.6533783]

>>6533774
this works is you are thinking as a sculptor you have to both add and remove material from the box.

[Anonymous No.6533787]

>>6533774
Fun with a pencil wasn't the best learning source imo. Skips so many steps that take you from construction to figure drawing, like Loomis kind of assuming that you can go directly from boomer comic faces -> 5 pages of construction -> you can now draw figures

[Anonymous No.6533789]

>>6533783
Nta but how thinking like a sculptor works?

[Anonymous No.6533792]

>>6533774
It requires your brain to be fully in 3d mode, you have to both believe it and draw it so others believe it. Removing is easier than adding imo.

[Anonymous No.6533798]

>>6533792
>removing is easier than adding imo
also my experience. Easier to find the shape when removing too much

[Anonymous No.6533799]

>>6533774
well, your contruction should somewhat resemble the end product in terms of shapes and volumes. Trying to draw from imagination when you have little to no experience with drawing from reference is bound to go wrong. I've only realised this some time ago myself.

[Anonymous No.6533807]

Hi /ic/, I’m sort of new to digital art and wanted some feedback on this Leon WIP, thanks! Everyone is so talented here

[Anonymous No.6533812]

>>6533799
>I've only realised this some time ago myself
This was me too. I banged my head against the wall for like a year, losing all will to draw because my imagination drawings looked dogshit. Idk where I got the idea I have to draw from imagination when everyone including the greats used refs the whole way.

[Anonymous No.6533821]

>>6533799
>>6533812
That is not to say that you shouldn't learn to actually draw from imagination once you have experience under your belt, and the greats could and did draw from imagination, but it's a horrible idea for a beginner to try to draw *anything* from imagination, and the greats did still use references for some things even in their great works

[Anonymous No.6533826]

How do I train seeing the head as an actual 3D shape and not as a blob when looking at a blank canvas?

The way I do it right now I just get a jumbled mess of perspectives, like the forward eye and ear being smaller than the ones in the back.

[Anonymous No.6533829]

>>6533826
Use construction. Create the simple 3d figures like a sphere and cubes that you then implant the facial features on.

[Anonymous No.6533837]

>>6533826
literally loomis
but not fun with a pencil use this instead
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15YVt8lQ0MF6YdwYiBgSNVMS4kOF33r1i/view

[Anonymous No.6533843]

>>6533789
Bridgman and robert beverly hale Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters are the sources that have helped me with this the greatest.

[Anonymous No.6533845]

>>6533829
>>6533837
Thanks, I'll try that.

[Anonymous No.6533848]

>>6533843
Thanks bro!

[Anonymous No.6533851]

>>6533845
Cute catboy btw

[Anonymous No.6533854]

>>6533845
obviously adapt loomis' method once you've gotten the hang of it to fit your gay animu nonsense

[Anonymous No.6533860]

>>6533854
This.That's the main reason for begs being filtered by Loomis

[Anonymous No.6533863]

>>6533851
Thanks it was supposed to be a tomboy foxgirl but I'll take any compliment.
>>6533854
Sooner or later I'll have to learn drawing
ugly and bald fat guys anyway.

[Anonymous No.6533876]

>>6533863
>ugly and bald fat guys
of course you'd be one of those

[Anonymous No.6533885]

>>6533863
You're welcome anon! Keep drawing

[Anonymous No.6533894]

Happy with this one, and I remember someone said to someone draw a bike on another thread so I did.

[Anonymous No.6533912]

>>6533807
I know he's sitting but the black suite on gray background makes the silhouette hard to see.

[Anonymous No.6533919]

>>6533912
Not him but what the fuck are you saying?
If anything the stark contrast of the silouette makes seeing the depth harder to see because it becomes a blob.

[Anonymous No.6533923]

>>6533894
this is great anon, i like the values

[Anonymous No.6533925]

>>6533919
sil·hou·ette
/ˌsiləˈwet/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: silhouette; plural noun: silhouettes

the dark shape and outline of someone or something visible against a lighter background, especially in dim light.

>harder to see because it becomes a blob.
Yes, that's what I said.

[Anonymous No.6533958]

Drew a foxboi with a fat ass

[Anonymous No.6533989]

>>6533925
>Learn to
No
>black suite on gray background makes the silhouette hard to see
Is not what I said. The silhouete is easy to see as the contrast is huge. The depth within the silouetee is hard to see because the contrast of the siloute is so strong because the grey is very light and the brain disregards the relatively low contrast of the different levels of depth of the suit.

[Anonymous No.6533996]

>>6533989
Maybe you should spend more time critiquing his work instead of arguing over the semantics of the English language.

[Anonymous No.6534018]

>>6533021
Trial and error

[Anonymous No.6534035]

The ground turned out kinda dogshit

[Anonymous No.6534044]

>>6534035
h-hot wtf?

[Anonymous No.6534047]

>>6534035
yeah I don't like the ground either, but now I notice that right foot looks like its hovering, lacks a little bit of plantarflexion to match that calve activation. greatjob

[Anonymous No.6534049]

>>6534035
Just go in with an eraser and thin some of the ground lines

[Anonymous No.6534051]

>>6533958
Gay but I like the pose and anatomy cues

[Anonymous No.6534054]

>>6534047
Oh now I get it, you or another anon told me that already that but I thought it was for the back of the dude being too smooth. Not sure how to fix that without redrawing too much stuff, probs I'll just leave it like that and take note for the next time to double check the leg muscles are right for the position. Thanks btw

[Anonymous No.6534059]

>>6534049
Probably tracing it correct on another layer is going to be faster

[Anonymous No.6534064]

[Anonymous No.6534067]

>>6534064
why the long face?

[Anonymous No.6534073]

>>6534054
>probs I'll just leave it like that and take note for the next time
this, GMI dont sweat it too much just keep in mind that muscles are antagonistic in nature if one pulls the other one stretches/relaxes.

>>6534064
I think you started from top to bottom, I think this is the reason after the nose everything stretched out to compensate. I'm too working in honing my perception of space >>6533654 its experimental and just an hunch but maybe will help you in your marksmanship.

[Anonymous No.6534074]

>>6534051
Thank you very much anon

[Anonymous No.6534076]

>>6533229
I'm really impressed how in recent years the overall skill level of /ic/ got higher.
There's multiple people that post regularly that are actually pretty good. Just sayin

[Anonymous No.6534081]

>>6533654
Looks useful, thanks for posting.

[Anonymous No.6534100]

>>6534064
holy shit that chin looks fucking huge from the thumbnail kek

[Anonymous No.6534105]

>>6534064
You managed to turn the asaro head into a nigger

[Anonymous No.6534107]

>>6534076
>post regularly
I can't be one of them then

[Anonymous No.6534126]

>>6533807

[Anonymous No.6534134]

gesture

[Anonymous No.6534139]

>>6534134
wtf are we supposed to be looking at

[Anonymous No.6534141]

critique me please i dont know what practice should I do

[Anonymous No.6534145]

>>6534141

[Anonymous No.6534154]

>>6534141
Look at head construction. (The loomis book posted here >>6533837)
Also the eyes/brows look featureless, so I'd recommend studying those separately.

Also I don't think there's a huge audience for old man head with twink body characters.

[Anonymous No.6534156]

How do you do pubic hair? I can't find any good tutorials

[Anonymous No.6534174]

>>6533923
thanks!

[Anonymous No.6534180]

I enjoyed this

[Anonymous No.6534183]

>>6533894
The tomato looks like a pumpkin

[Anonymous No.6534192]

shtpst

[Anonymous No.6534200]

>>6534183
yea it does lmao said the same when i finished

[Anonymous No.6534215]

Hello beg, kill me. I couldnt feel the form of the beard and i did only two plates. Its over.
>>6534141
i suggest doing book called Keys to Drawing
>>6534064
you dont need to do whole book as previous anon, just this part
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/70
>>6534035
i already kneeled to this, you sure are taking your time making it. Godlike
>>6534018
soul + maxed out creativity
>>6533958
anon... that isnt fat ass. If you want to capture the COOMer market you gonna enhance the curves way way more
>>6533894
very nice, the best is the maze and falling pumpkin
>>6533807
the legs and torso arent properly aligned. did you use reference?
>>6533658
that pic has broken perspective (i think), you drew the wall as if you are looking at steep angle but the floor is perfectly aligned with viewer. The fix is easy: just crop the wall. And yes being beg is hell
>>6533654
Cute little coding project anon, but i think you are better off practicing sighting on real objects, be it figures or just still life. Because then you are learning multiple stuff at once, not just proportions
>>6533615
The few places online all recommended this book, cant vouch for its quality personally though
https://archive.org/details/Color_and_Light_James_Gurney_English/
>>6533516
i think the issue are body proportions. Her hips and thighs are omega huge and dont really fit the rest of the body. Remeber: begs NEED to use reference every single time otherwise they are just cementing bad habits
>>6533397
anon... everybody ends up drawing contours one way or another
>>6533349
that is very BEG spider. But you felt the form somewhat so i give you thumbs up
>>6533229
very cool
>>6533158
out of 6 beg books only 2 mentioned anatomy. And the two both said anatomy is completely optional and study it casually at leisure tempo and only if you find it personally interesting. Nicolaides especially warns students to never confuse stiff accurate diagrams with drawings which should always display gesture

[Anonymous No.6534216]

god i fucking LOVE cartoony art styles bros..

[Anonymous No.6534218]

>>6534216
example?

[Anonymous No.6534228]

>>6534218
i just picked this off my inspiration board this is very “chibi” or whatever but i like westaboo style art so much and the way this is colored.

[Anonymous No.6534234]

>>6534228
Based, I think well done cel shading is heaps more appeal and skill than overrendering. I’ve always been a fan of gashi gashi picrel

[Anonymous No.6534235]

>>6534180

[Anonymous No.6534237]

SAI is pretty cool

[Anonymous No.6534238]

>>6534237
Are u the anon in the sai2 thread? Lookin good anon.

[Anonymous No.6534239]

>>6534216
??? How did they nake the cat do that? AI?

[Anonymous No.6534246]

>>6534228
how do achieve the westaboo style? specially their color choices

[Anonymous No.6534378]

i really do not enjoy the way hampton draws figures. i cant read loomis without wanting to jack off so maybe its for the best...

[Anonymous No.6534381]

>>6534235
I would spend some time doing longer studies if I were you. Try 40-50 minutes, getting your drawing as accurate as possible. Best if you do a master copy, say, of a Michelangelo, or whatever artist you admire

[Anonymous No.6534392]

>>6534381
not him, obviously, but since we're on the topic - is it possible to do a master studies on “cartoony” styles?

[Anonymous No.6534395]

>>6534378
Marie kondo the shit out of this if you don't find joy skip and continue, just keep it as a valuable source in the future when you find yourself stuck

>>6534392
master copy is an umbrella term (meme term) most of the time means 1:1 copy paying close attention to the details from general to super specific and subtle stuff.

>>6534246
do a color study https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_IytAnahvA

[Anonymous No.6534396]

>>6534392
there's a whole general on that

[Anonymous No.6534398]

cope

[Anonymous No.6534400]

>>6534398
render is shit, but compo is good

[Anonymous No.6534405]

Sketching from imagination, but my visual library is still so weak

[Anonymous No.6534422]

done I think

[Anonymous No.6534425]

>>6534405
these look great, what did you study?

[Anonymous No.6534426]

>>6534392
of course. Look at how animators learn to draw a character from a model sheet. There's no textbook, they just copy the drawings

[Anonymous No.6534428]

>>6533021
Drew Mikuru today

[Anonymous No.6534429]

>>6534405
that profile view is straight out of kim jung gi! great taste

[Anonymous No.6534434]

Rate my Turtwig! I watched an intro to oil painting video, and I just did this digitally while trying to stick to the same general methods. Are there better brushes for this on Procreate? I used Spectra in the default painting set. I’m more used to SAI, so I don’t know which brushes are better for each purpose yet. They’re so fancy!

[Anonymous No.6534435]

>>6534428
I don't like the drapery looks flat to me, not everything has to be a tight fit, for example right thigh

>>6534434
most people would point out (sinix fag) that a good hard square brush is all to be needed from what Ive gather shapes are way more important in painting than anything else

[Anonymous No.6534437]

>>6534435
Now that you mentioned it, yeah, I could have given the skirt more folds.

Oh well, mistake noted

[Anonymous No.6534438]

>>6534435
hard SQUARE??

[Anonymous No.6534445]

>>6534438
change the brush tip from a circle to a square if you cant change it to a ellipse with high eccentricity if you cant just use a round brush :^D.

>>6534437
I don't think is a matter of more folds rather of the descriptive quality of those folds if I remember correctly there are like 5 or 7 types of folds, study them.

[Anonymous No.6534446]

>>6534445
I'll study them after I'm done grinding my anatomy and perspective lessons

[Anonymous No.6534472]

well...

[Anonymous No.6534478]

>>6534472
I like the lines, the anatomy and posture are kind of awkward but it's definitely a good start
the folds in the fabric are kind of amateurish, there is definitely volume inconsistency along areas of symmetry

[Anonymous No.6534510]

I drew this in 2-5 min using a stock photo as a ref, think I did pretty good. tried and failed to do some weird shading with another ref to show off the spine. I've noticed I tend to use random shading as a crutch to hide the flaws but this looked pretty good without the shading as well

[Anonymous No.6534551]

>>6534472

[Anonymous No.6534584]

Finished the Nep vs Noire commission comic

[Anonymous No.6534588]

thinking about taking the /alphonso/ pill to up my pen & ink skills

[Anonymous No.6534594]

>>6534398
Thanks man, that's going to make stuff faster

[Anonymous No.6534607]

>>6534551
I kneel

[Anonymous No.6534617]

>>6534588

[Anonymous No.6534636]

>>6534422
rat guy?
looks cool as fuck

[Anonymous No.6534704]

>>6534588
Alphonso is great. He traditionally draws from observation rather than construction whereas I vastly prefer construction but I have to admit his book is great. There's another book called "rendering in pen and ink" that is nice, you might find it on thriftbooks. Pen and Ink style is tough because there's almost no noodling out in the rendering, like there's very little guessing. I'd probably spend an entire page of sketchbook construction trees and then rendering them with Alphonso's texture examples etc. before "taking away" the construction aspect and just keeping the details to define the tree in a final drawing, if that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.6534712]

I've been working on anatomy and I think im starting to get the hang of it a little. Something about what I'm drawing feels off, and I'm not sure what it is. Is it my imagination, or can someone help point out something I'm doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.6534719]

>>6534617
>>6534704
Hm I see, sounds good. I'll check it out someday.
I have a bad tendency of jumping from one thing to another when it comes to learning stuff, especially in art.
Right now I should just continue focusing on figures, and check out rendering in pen & ink later on

[Anonymous No.6534732]

>>6534712
Have u tried flipping ur canvas

[Anonymous No.6534737]

>>6534732
Flipping my canvas?

[Anonymous No.6534743]

>>6534381
oh that accuracy nigger again. go back to copy and pasting anime

pyw of drawings from memory you filthy fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6534744]

>>6534737
Nta but flipping the canvas mean changing it's position
For example,you are drawing but you can't see mistakes until mirroring the drawing(horizontal or vertical flip)
That happens when we get used to one position so flipping helps to see all of our mistakes

[Anonymous No.6534745]

>>6534743
When these retards will realize that not everything has to be a 1:1 copy?

[Anonymous No.6534746]

>>6534392
never ever do what this baboon is saying. if you want to copy a cartoony style, construct it rather than copy like a xerox machine

[Anonymous No.6534750]

>>6534744
Oh I never thought of that. I'm trying it now but I don't think I have enough of a grasp of the anatomy to see what. My best guess is that maybe proportions on the waist or the chest are off, but I'm not sure how even if that were true.

I'm still having some trouble rotating the shapes, maybe I should go back and try to reconstruct things?

[Anonymous No.6534756]

>>6534750
I think it would look less weird if u added at least a guide for the hands. (Just rectangles or whatever) the lack of “weight” from the missing hands can make it feel off.

[Anonymous No.6534764]

mastering the ars notoria help with getting good at art?

[Anonymous No.6534766]

>>6534750
If that looks off,probably is
Go refine the drawing until it looks good/right,you are on the sketch phase so you can change as much as you want

[Anonymous No.6534774]

Sup c&c go

[Anonymous No.6534776]

>>6534712
Go study how the arms and legs connect to the torso.

[Anonymous No.6534799]

>>6534636
Yea it's me. Thank you man I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.6534816]

>>6534750
Also this >>6534776
Don't give up and have fun

[Anonymous No.6534817]

>>6534774
There's a huge perspective dissonance between the Julias chest area and the rest of the body. Whole body is perpendicular to the viewer, but her chest is the only thing at a 3/4 angle. M.C. Escher titties.

[Anonymous No.6534841]

>>6534816
I've been drawing almost non stop for days, it's a lot of fun! I'm just having trouble learning some things all on my own.

>>6534816
>>6534776
Any suggested resources? I used loomis to figure out construction and do some poses and things, is there maybe something in there I havent seen? Or maybe a place to find good reference images/guides/video instructions?

[Anonymous No.6534844]

>>6534215
foxboy ass anon here, thank you for the feedback, I like big but realistic ass sizes lol

[Anonymous No.6534847]

>>6533021
So when I draw with a specific reference (left) I get a solid result with life, but when I try and do something out of mind it comes out motionless as (right)
how do I fix this

[Anonymous No.6534853]

>>6534235

[Anonymous No.6534872]

>>6534847
Someone posted this on original thread
>>6534867
But keep posting on this thread,anons here will kindly help

[Anonymous No.6534876]

>>6534847
Here. This example is pretty exaggerated but it's the core idea.

[Anonymous No.6534878]

>>6534841
i've beed drawing every day 23months 4days now
it was fun in the beginning, but i just can't stop now

[Anonymous No.6534917]

>>6534876
Who is this? I love that kind of exaggerated poses, its great inspiration for even more exaggerated poses

[Anonymous No.6534948]

>>6534817
I alter it slightly to give the booba feel. But I understand your demand for correctness.

[Anonymous No.6534954]

A sketch I spent some more time on than my usual quick doodles, could have worked a bit longer on the face and fixed the janky roots, but other than that proud of it

[Anonymous No.6534958]

>>6534719
I really like your line on the wings, something I like about wings is how the primary and secondary creates a nice rhythm for the eye to follow.

[Anonymous No.6534963]

>>6534774

Do you have the sketch?

[Anonymous No.6534968]

>>6534917
hownew.ru

[Anonymous No.6534977]

>>6534917
George Brigdman

[Anonymous No.6534983]

>>6534963
Yes, do you want to paint over it?
I will do better next time. Always looking to better my art and understanding.

[Anonymous No.6535008]

>>6534712
Trying to improve my understanding of anatomy. When I look I see a lot of shapes but im not sure if they are all necessary. At least I think I've gotten a little more of a grasp on how legs connect into the pelvis. I think this anatomy is definitely improved, I wanna start trying to study different poses and get a better feel for how it moves.

[Anonymous No.6535014]

just a little doodle, does anyone feel this looks somewhat appealing or is it shit?

[Anonymous No.6535018]

>>6533021
Any good books on perspective drawing?

BTW heres a cool place to post your beg tier art work and get criticized :https://discord.gg/uWTCghkn

[Anonymous No.6535024]

>>6535014
just do first loomis exercises and you'll see yourself

[Anonymous No.6535025]

>>6535008
The more you draw and study,less construction lines you will use
Go for it,you are on a good path

[Anonymous No.6535028]

>>6535018
not op but i was interested in joining and cannot accept the invite, any chance you could post another

[Anonymous No.6535034]

>>6534425
Thank you anon, do you mean how I learned everything about drawing or just this? Well just to give you the gist of it, I mostly picked up perspective from Krenz and "Perspective made simple", general anatomy from Hampton and for the faces I just learned the planes of the head

>>6534429
Aha yes it's obvious to see the influence, but he makes such great faces with a few simple lines that I couldn't help but copy him over and over

[Anonymous No.6535041]

>>6535014
is that jerma? :P

[Anonymous No.6535045]

>>6535041
i actually based it on this image of every serial killer combined into one man, picrel

[Anonymous No.6535058]

>>6534954
Looks soulful but I'd work on the face more. Eveb though the face is small space wise, it makes for a lot in terms of appeal.

[Anonymous No.6535078]

I unironically added a wrinkle to my brain by doing L1-3 of drawabox and drawing each piece of a gunpla, as I built it, in one perspective and then rotating it in my imagination and drawing another. Like previously I looked at Scott Robertson's book and nothing made sense but I looked recently and I could work with it. Now if only I actually drew well or had a big visual library. But tbqh shit work that's properly proportioned and in perspective isn't the worst thing in the world. Weird how the mind works.

[Anonymous No.6535099]

>>6534378
I do Hampton gestures + proko construction, try it.

[Anonymous No.6535106]

>>6533021
a head study

[Anonymous No.6535118]

>>6534422
would be cooler if the wheelchair guy has his hand placed on the energy column thing. makes the story more interesting. I love the way you drew this.

[Anonymous No.6535124]

>>6535045
that motherfucker looks INSANE.
the kinda guy to eat a whole sleeve of oreos and throw them up onto his mother's bed.
>>6534954
lookin good, now I wanna draw some trees

[Anonymous No.6535127]

>>6533229
that's a pretty sketch

i've tried to steal some of your soul but i'm still to beg

[Anonymous No.6535129]

>>6535106
stop drawing me

[Anonymous No.6535139]

Just got put on paid leave for a month because i Edward Snowdened my workplace, LETS DRAWMAXXX

[Anonymous No.6535144]

Cheap copy of Nihei's work. Just for fun, and I get to practice with my pens and markers

[Anonymous No.6535146]

>>6535144
hopefully its properly rotated now

[Anonymous No.6535168]

>>6535127
the way you did this area seems odd, ive never seen a cheek go all the way back to the ear like that, but i like the rest

[Anonymous No.6535202]

>>6535168
yeah, i'm very inexperienced with faces(most of my studies are faceless figures) and a lot seemed off
ill focus more on heads now
thanks

[Anonymous No.6535216]

>>6535168
still poop?
it's pretty late, i'm 2 drawings further and no idea what i'm doing anymore.

[Anonymous No.6535218]

>>6535078
kek
drawabox teaching me about cubes and perspective unironically gave me a headache when i first learned about it. but i'm very grateful for it.

[Anonymous No.6535223]

>>6535216
i think the problem is the hard crease that goes all the way back, and the one that comes off the corner of the eye. I tried to blend it (poorly) so you can see what I mean

[Anonymous No.6535226]

>>6535218
Talking about DAB,just doing the beg exercises are enough or you have to do all of the exercises?

[Anonymous No.6535232]

>>6535223
thanks again, i'll just draw a new head

[Anonymous No.6535279]

[Anonymous No.6535293]

Any feedback on these?

Painted the left one yesterday and right one today. Took about 2,5h and it's acrylic on cardboard/canvas. I know they look a bit goofy, but I'd like to have some critique and maybe some tips for future.

[Anonymous No.6535299]

>>6535293
proportion is the main issue I see. ears on the girl should be a bit bigger. The mouth on the guy combine with how the nose is shaded makes it look awkward. I do like the color overall though.

[Anonymous No.6535305]

>>6535279
added some more details and cleaned some stuff up. what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.6535310]

>>6535305
Looks good. Nobclue on anatomy since I am not a cat expert, but it's believable.

[Anonymous No.6535312]

>>6535305
solid proportions. love the close up of the skull. work on improving your shading would be my advise. The one at the bottom could use some better blending and different gradations.

this drawing book shows some amazing ways to shade with a ballpoint pen

https://annas-archive.org/md5/b0ffa414264ecafe6131daf93c63a6a3

[Anonymous No.6535316]

>>6535305
>>6535312
this one also is great
https://annas-archive.org/md5/06a966c0e23405ed2253c2ec83282c1d

[Anonymous No.6535319]

>>6534743
Please kill yourself. Every time I've critiqued your work I've received nothing but stupid backlash. I always assumed it was someone else, but the pattern is too consistent for it to be otherwise. Use a trip so I can filter your work.

[Anonymous No.6535322]

>>6535226
Do everything, drawabox is most important for mileage and exposure. Learn to see and draw and then move on basically.

[Anonymous No.6535330]

>>6535041
I'm seeing jerma everywhere I fuckin go, I think I might be going insane

[Anonymous No.6535335]

>>6535299
thank you for the critique. do you recommend to use a grid or something to get the proportions right, or is it kind of cheating?

I'd like to learn how to sketch a face that doesn't look retarded because the proportions are off.

[Anonymous No.6535339]

>>6535335
nta but here's a great resource https://www.youtube.com/@SIMPLIFYDrawingandPainting/videos

[Anonymous No.6535347]

>>6534977
Thanks
>>6534968
I never touched any book or did any exercise and stuff like that, you can just learn to draw by observing actual stuff
Maybe you guys can learn faster by reading books but for me that shit is too boring, and the idea alone feels more like learning to copy and adopt some guy's way to see things instead than actually developing your own self

[Anonymous No.6535352]

>>6535347
pyw

[Anonymous No.6535371]

How many years do you have to spend doing FWAP before you can move on?

[Anonymous No.6535393]

>>6535371
0

[Anonymous No.6535406]

>>6534235
Soul soul soul soul sou

[Anonymous No.6535416]

i want to finish this without redrawing the entire thing. ignore fucked up hair bottom right.

[Anonymous No.6535423]

>>6535028
https://discord.gg/uWTCghkn

[Anonymous No.6535437]

>>6535416
I don't see why you should redraw it and not just finish it, but if you feel like something is wrong you should actually redraw the entire thing, maybe just cut and paste the flowers.
If you use that as a guide under a new layer, you should be able to redo it with better strokes and in a fraction of the time.
Most people here have absorbed this weird fixation in polishing to the best of their ability any drawing, but in my opinion is pretty detrimental, as
1) you have no reminder of your past mistakes and no term of comparison for improvement
2) its like beating your meat too much on the same stuff, meaning you'll lose interest and motivation
3) keeps shifting your bar higher for no reason
I'm just taking out of my own experience so I don't expect this applies perfectly to everyone, but I think that just starting and finishing a piece organically, and moving on to the next is much more beneficial for both your skill and your mental state

[Anonymous No.6535528]

>>6535371
years? none, maybe a month

go and try to draw a complex form and do some exercise on the ctrpaint web site, from chapter 2 and 3.
FWAP is for you to understand that most things are a bunch of simple things together, and that anyone can draw decently

also, read vilppu drawing manual, and do the exercises in the book like twice a week. Draw from imagination and from life, try to understand why you are doing the things that you are doing. A way to do that is to narrate everything that you are drawing with a "because" and a follow up: "this tree is smaller than that rock because is farter away from the viewer, and since its so far away the details in that tree are almos non existent, but its still a 3D tree so it produces a shadow that goes against the source of ligth" and so on.

finish the entire book and don't go "this should be all i need", trust me, in one book you won't find everything that you need.

[Anonymous No.6535539]

[Anonymous No.6535596]

How long should it take for someone who still thinks in 2d and has problem with natural perspective to get a natural sense of 3d space and good shale design ingrained right into his skull? Currently grinding dynamic sketching and I'm not working or any other fundamental outside figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.6535610]

>>6535316
thanks for the recommends I'll check them out

[Anonymous No.6535614]

>>6535539
I would actually rather kill myself than voluntarily draw this face.

[Anonymous No.6535654]

>>6534238
yup I asked about the brushes, bought it now. Definitely could have some QoL improvements but drawing performance is much better, worth the money

[Anonymous No.6535662]

Big boom

[Anonymous No.6535671]

>>6535654
That’s great to hear. I still use csp for specific pattern brushes and such, so I know what you mean. Still, I’d rather die than do a full drawing on csp start to finish.

[Anonymous No.6535674]

I'm always self-conscious when i copy from reference...

[Anonymous No.6535676]

>>6535674
Please flip your canvas

[Anonymous No.6535679]

So how the fuck do normies learn art? I've seen so many "YASS queen" people on social media who do decent art and i REFUSE to believe these people just coasted through the learning process while we sit here and struggle day in and out with basic loomis heads or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6535684]

>>6535679
They just draw

[Anonymous No.6535691]

[Anonymous No.6535693]

>>6535679
Just draw you fucking retard. Those people draw more because of positive reenforcement and to get more of it. Maybe you should ditch 4chan and go to a hugbox and maybe you’ll stop shitting out stupid constructions and finally draw with some soul for fucking once

[Anonymous No.6535695]

[Anonymous No.6535697]

>>6535528
The narration advice is really interesting. I've heard of people with aphantasia using a similar technique in order to cure themselves of their inability to picture things in their heads.

[Anonymous No.6535698]

>>6535679
Stupid, the illusion of social media is that the things you see are made without effort. They don't show the struggle or speed through it, because the metrics have shown them that normies don't care about the grind. It's about vicariously experiencing triumph over adversity.

[Anonymous No.6535700]

[Anonymous No.6535702]

>>6535700
kek, that gif just played in my head. nice draw :D

[Anonymous No.6535716]

[Anonymous No.6535741]

i-its improving...

[Anonymous No.6535749]

>>6535716
holy soul

[Anonymous No.6535763]

I hate coming to these threads. I spend an hour trying to find the best way to ask for help about something I can improve,
>no books beyond FWAP
>no tablet
>Windows 11 Paint and Mouse in right hand (leftie)
Then I delete THAT because I already know the answer to what’s wrong, find even MORE things wrong looking for something to talk about, and by the end I just am depressed about where I am, all the hard barriers to getting the things I see so clearly in my head on the paper and just sink into a depressive funk for a while about it. Then I get high, stop trying to improve, draw a bunch, wake up the next morning and look at… well fuck I didn’t even save what I was going to ask about on this phone jesus fucking christ now i have to save this rant for that no fuck it post it now you don’t GET an example fuck it mad now

[Anonymous No.6535764]

>>6535763
Pencil + paper is a couple dollars
LibGen + name of a book is free

[Anonymous No.6535783]

Hello beg, today i polished a turd (the crown). Feels very beg beg. Beg.

>>6535741
anon what media is this? You have it around for multiple days now. Doesnt the paint go bad if you leave it dry and then start working on it again? It is coming out nicely
>>6535679
1. normies dont draw. displaying any sort of critical thinking, independent thought or any hobby more difficult than shitposting on social media automatically disqualifies you from being normie. And drawing is hard as fuck! 2. they just drew. a lot
>>6535674
that implies there are drawing tasks where you arent self-conscious... your conscience mogs me cause i feel it all the time when canvas is staring back at me
>>6535662
so this is the hidden power of perspective. i kneel
>>6535596
for me "feeling the form" came when i was on my third book, it was like ~5 months in. I didnt even specifically trained for it, i was at that time doing nicolaides book which is basically one massive gesture grind
>>6535014
keep doodling anon. after you make few thousands of doodles like this you will suddenly become INT
>>6534847
one word: gesture. Aka exaggerating amplifying the very core element / movement / volume / action / essence of the object. The difference between diagram and drawing is in the gesture
>>6534774
i kneel and i coom
>>6534584
based anon making living by drawing ryona. i think you would benefit from some gesture grind in the long term. or by doing some gray scale studies. still you nailed the appeal factor
>>6534434
values not pushed hard enough = the pokemon is kinda flat
>>6534422
damn that pic oozes hidden lore and soul
>>6535763
its hard to give you specific advice if you dont PYW. So i have to assume you are beg beg and need Keys to Drawing and supplement tablet for paper and pencil. Become tradchad if you are poorfag. Still i bet in the long term getting 40€ xp pen tablet is cheaper than nonstop buying pencils, ink and 99999 papers.

[Anonymous No.6535792]

>>6535763
just draw god damn it, get a pencil and paper and draw. who cares if you can't capture exactly what you have in your head on the page yet. TRY and keep trying no matter how much you don't like it. It will push you to become better and you will. They say it takes 10,000 hours to become a pro at something. I used to be terrible at 3d modeling, but I just did it constantly and eventually I got a job, then another, and another and eventually I was the modeling supervisor. You will look back and be proud of your perseverance and growth.

[Anonymous No.6535793]

>anon what media is this? You have it around for multiple days now. Doesnt the paint go bad if you leave it dry and then start working on it again? It is coming out nicely

oil painting and no, its meant to be worked in multiple layers.

[Anonymous No.6535795]

>>6535793
>>6535783
forgot the (you)s, also nice busts

[Anonymous No.6535824]

Back at the computer
>>6535783
>its hard to give you specific advice if you dont PYW
I actually found a file but
>>"POSTING IMAGES FROM THIS IP HAS BEEN BLOCKED DUE TO ABUSE, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SHEKELS TO THIS HONEY POT SO YOU CAN POST AND BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Phoneposting cucked that.

Whole reason I'm learning to draw is I want to ape a style of a show currently wrapping up from /co/ to make art for an AU fanfic I'm writing around it. I'll do character studies and portraits and all that if that improves me, but THIS is what I'm doing art for, and that's what THIS is.

Trimming as MUCH of the autism down for the people who RIGHTFULLY don't give a shit about this show, girl on the left is sitting with guy on the right, sharing food on a roof overlooking a nightime demonic cityscape. Actually the whole thing's a crop of a bigger file with all the references around them, that file was too big, but that's what all the squares and odd lines are

The trace's an edit of an edit, (testing different styles, had to post the edit anyway so used it for this) I was going to move it away and just dropper for the right color scheme once I had her look down. Original version had this guy on the right holding the bread with BOTH hands, but that looked off so I just scribbled in some lines to get the basic form of the arm like I did with the body before I started (found sketching that, then the frame Loomis mentions on that, THEN the dude, helps)

Plan is
>draw the dude
>draw the girl
>draw the background on the left
>copy the dude and girl into the BG and fix any issues

Just looking myself at what I need to work on in no order
>fix the perspective of the rooftop
>figure out how to draw fabric draping on things properly
>the hand, the bread, the third thing
I'm sure there's other stuff, though. I don't know if you can help (Or would want to) but I P'd my W.

[Anonymous No.6535829]

>>6535824
Smaller version of the larger art project with all the references I'm pulling from.

[Anonymous No.6535831]

>>6535679
They learn by copying whatever is popular. They pick one style and stick with it regardless of how it looks.

[Anonymous No.6535836]

>>6535829
I don't have anything to draw from (hah) with pen and pencil but I drew this a few months ago trying out different faces for a different character in this thing.

Again, the reason it's frustrating is
>know things are wrong
>don't have the tools to improve what I'm working with, or have the money to have those tools, so I can't improve there
>can't articulate the problem I have with my art that I can't just figure out myself
>but I can't just figure it out myself otherwise why the fuck would I have a problem
>get mad
>give up asking, return to working on art
>art's still shit, come back to try and type the perfect bait for fishing up solid advice past 4channer basic cynical depressive speak, like you have to for every fucking thread on this site
>still can't, now in a funk and don't want to do art period
>return to art the next day, cycle repeats

I can't stop overthinking because then I overthink not overthinking
I can't just draw because when I put the pencil to the paper I can't help overthink I'm doing THAT wrong
I can't just stop worrying about it, because if I didn't worry about it I'd have traced the whole fucking thing because it's a dumb show about gay witches

And yes it's a dumb show about gay witches
But it's MY contribution to the dumb show about gay witches
And I want my contribution to blow people's fucking minds

AND THE GODDAMN SHOW ENDS IN A MONTH BECAUSE THE SHOWRUNNER COULDN'T STOP SHITTING ON HER BOSSES SO THE FANDOM HYPE'S GONNA DRY UP FAST AND I CAN'T ART FAST ENOUGH TO HAVE THIS READY FOR THEN AND

I WANT TO ART FAST ENOUGH, GODDAMNIT

FUCK

ASS

PISS OUT MY ASS

[Anonymous No.6535840]

about to get a break off of school, more time to grind
i want to start the peter han course but i know it spans multiple weeks. about how long does the homework for the course take each week?

[Anonymous No.6535844]

>>6535840
It's meant to be done over 8 weeks. CGMA site says:
>ASSIGNMENT: Due each week. Expect to spend 8-10 hrs/wk viewing lectures, q&a, and time on assignments.
So 64-80 hours in total. Theoretically you could grind it in a week, but 2 weeks would be more realistic. Although I would recommend spreading it out over 4 weeks at least, while doing some personal art too.

[Anonymous No.6535873]

>>6535836
top right has the GoAnimate face

[Anonymous No.6535877]

>>6535873
Laughed

[Anonymous No.6536026]

I'm learning how to do measurements by heads and I figured that this model is about 6 heads tall in this pose. My question is when you are actually building the drawing from your measurements is there any rules on how you should decide where to put your middle line?
In the screenshot I chose this place for the line because the bottom of the chin basically lines up with the edge of his shorts, but I also considered putting it at the inside edge of his ear or somewhere along his spine.
Is there a rule of thumb for the best place to put the middle line so that you can most effectively use it as an anchor to measure out other proportions from? Where would you guys put the line?

[Anonymous No.6536044]

>>6536026
I use the center line as a jumping off point for measurement and relative location. Using it like you did isn't bad, but I would personally put it at the ear. Since I would try to triangulate the positions of points, for example, armpits, using the 2nd "heads" top and bottom lines, it's better for me to place the line at the center of the figure.

[Anonymous No.6536097]

y8dhsr

[Anonymous No.6536110]

>>6535836
Forgot the meds uh

[Anonymous No.6536111]

>>6534064
Obunga

[Anonymous No.6536122]

>>6535836
Take a breather, my dude. You're giving yourself performance anxiety and scaring the art hoes away from this thread.

[Anonymous No.6536138]

>>6534774
Their faces are precise, and i think their bodies have good physicality, like she's actually on top of him.
The clearest construction issue is in the hands. The joints of the fingers are unclear and imprecise. You should look into sorting out the hand into bones and flesh. Right now the hands have very poor solidity, just kinda formless blobs, which is probably because you don't have a very solid understand of the bone structure beneath the flesh.

[Anonymous No.6536159]

Wish I was more skilled in drawing figures, but I just gotta keep grinding I guess
5x1min, 4x2min, 1x5min and 2x15 minute figures

[Anonymous No.6536166]

>>6536159
This doesn't look too bad especially the ones you spent more time on.
You seem to be on a good pace. Keep going anon ! I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.6536171]

>>6536166
thanks

[Anonymous No.6536182]

>>6535783
>based anon making living by drawing ryona. i think you would benefit from some gesture grind in the long term. or by doing some gray scale studies. still you nailed the appeal factor

Thank you. You absolute right I need gesture and anatomy practice and trying to fit it to working on the comms. Happy to hear my shitty art has appeal. Been showing my art to IRL art people and they been really supportive. I def have long way to go but the artist journey is never ending and happy with the progress so far.

[Anonymous No.6536195]

>>6536122
>art hoes
Do they even exist? I've only attracted music and theatre hoes until now.

[Anonymous No.6536196]

[Anonymous No.6536212]

Do you guys keep notes of things to keep in mind when drawing?
An example can be:
>Think simple yet characteristic when dealing with form

[Anonymous No.6536237]

Warmups

[Anonymous No.6536238]

Will using anime image references instead of images of real people affect my learning?

[Anonymous No.6536241]

>>6536238
Not necessarily but I would prefer photos or cgi over drawn references unless you particularly studying how other artist executes the pose. With photos and cgi you still need to stylize and do the lines your way. With drawn references it cuts your agency.

[Anonymous No.6536247]

are there any good ways to avoid getting distracted easily or focusing too much on perfecting one little part of a sketch?
im having trouble fighting these habits

[Anonymous No.6536251]

>>6536212
nope but there's no shame in doing so

[Anonymous No.6536270]

>>6536247
>Distracted easily
>Focusing too much
You are unironically retarded

[Anonymous No.6536280]

>>6536270
yes focusing too much on one aspect and getting distracted from finishing a sketch because I spend too much time doing one thing
are you pretending to be an asshole for no reason or

[Anonymous No.6536284]

>>6536270
He gets distracted easily by focusing on details. Just like how you got distracted from the point of the post by focusing phrases

[Anonymous No.6536292]

>>6536247
finalize sketch instead of focusing on one detail. Next

[Anonymous No.6536299]

>>6536238
If you are super beg and don't know anatomy it will definitely fuck with your learning because you won't recognise when an artist intentionally stylizes or even worse you will end up copying another artist's mistakes.

[Anonymous No.6536362]

>>6536238
You most likely cant recognize good from bad. So if you reference a shit drawing, because you have shit taste, you're gonna have a a bad time further down the line.

>>6536247
Awareness is the first step towards change. Catch yourself before you fall into your usual pattern.

[Anonymous No.6536374]

Could someone make a video of themselves drawing forms? I've been trying to but I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.6536387]

what kind of forms?

[Anonymous No.6536413]

tax return forms

[Anonymous No.6536475]

Are hands meant to be hard and annoying to do?

[Anonymous No.6536515]

>>6536195
I've seen some walking by the local art academy. Mixed bag desu.

[Anonymous No.6536552]

>>6536475
Is anything ever not hard and annoying to do when you first start out?

[Anonymous No.6536610]

>>6535679
funniest post i've seen here

[Anonymous No.6536615]

>>6534917
hirohiko araki

[Anonymous No.6536634]

>>6536515
Just like music thots then.
Theatre ones often have weird- not ugly- faces, like big eyes, or hawk nose and stuff, but they're consistently hot and horny.

[Anonymous No.6536636]

>>6536615
Another good one is the guilty gear guy.

[Anonymous No.6536639]

>>6536552
Drawing shitty sketches that made me feel inordinately proud was pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.6536654]

rate pls

[Anonymous No.6536719]

>>6535293

focus more on the drawing before painting.

[Anonymous No.6536727]

>>6536654
Looks weak to me. Do more 3/4th view.

[Anonymous No.6536740]

[Anonymous No.6536772]

>>6536654
Average front shot lineart. There isn't much to rate. looks fine on it's own.

[Anonymous No.6536776]

>>6536740
I assume you mix it up between weeb and more realistic stuff? I swear I've seen your sketches quite a bit in these threads. Doing pretty good desu.

[Anonymous No.6536798]

>>6536719
painting is drawing

[Anonymous No.6536799]

>>6536776
I want to try different things, because I'm not sure where I want to be in the end. Also, these are not really my sketches as all of these are copies. I draw less original stuff now than before, because I'm either studying or copying when I want to draw something beautiful that I'm not able to just do without a reference.

[Anonymous No.6536814]

>>6536196
hot

[Anonymous No.6536868]

NEW THREAD
>>6536865
>>6536865
>>6536865

[Anonymous No.6536880]

>>6534712
I went back and studied some more. It's easier to understand when I put everything together as shapes. Ive noticed that female stuff is much more circular while male stuff is more angular. I'm still having trouble with breasts, though. I just feel like something in my head isn't quite clicking with the shape. I'm not sure what, but I think copying is definitely helping me get the hang of certain things. These were all done with references that I was looking at closely, but now that I think I have a better feel for the shapes I want to try putting them together again. and building something of my own.

Does anybody spot anything I'm missing? I definitely feel better about some of these than others.

[Anonymous No.6536884]

>>6536880
Now draw over it to see these work for you

[Anonymous No.6536889]

>>6536884
Thats the plan! Instead of using the references I wanna try to capture it myself and see how it plays out.

[Anonymous No.6536963]

[Anonymous No.6537608]

>>6536798

[Anonymous No.6538732]

Hello, I am trying paint wet skin. The picture on the left is how I want it to look like however the one the right is what I am doing, Could any guide me on how I should do this?