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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>6495452

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://mega.nz/folder/9h1mUYSJ#8sJoO57nMP_JhjnujBXkpQ
https://www.naokiurasawa.com/
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

>> No.6524207

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

>> No.6524209

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

>> No.6524214

And a new addition, platforms to host your manga:

>Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
https://medibang.com/mpc/

>Webtoons
https://www.webtoons.com/en/

>Tapas
https://tapas.io

>ComicFury
https://comicfury.com

>GlobalComix
https://globalcomix.com

>Medibang
https://medibang.com

>Pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/

>Mangadex
https://mangadex.org

>Twitter
https://twitter.com

>Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com

>DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com

>Your own website

>> No.6524218

Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma19-overflowing-tears-silent-manga-audition/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

>> No.6524223

OP image is from Hana no Kishi Dakini. You can read it here: https://mangadex.org/title/7b89186f-ffb6-420f-94f4-f71424077422/hana-no-kishi-dakini

Thread questionnaire time:
How long have you been drawing manga?
Did you finish any projects?
What are you working on at the moment?
Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
What is you favourite manga?
Who is your favorite manga artist?

>> No.6524237

>>6524223
Answering the questions:
>How long have you been drawing manga?
7 years, started in highschool.

>Did you finish any projects?
Only 2 one-shots because I give up on most projects.

>What are you working on at the moment?
A one shot for /ic/onography.

>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
There’s more pages than bande dessinée so you can focus more on details, it’s in black and white so I don’t have to bother on colouring and you can do it alone.

>What is you favourite manga?
BLAME! by Tsutomu Nihei. Although I enjoy a lot manga about making manga.

>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Probably Haruko Ichikawa (Land of the Lustrous) and Akihito Tsukushi (Made in Abyss).

>> No.6524246

>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
since i was a kid
>Did you finish any projects?
only a 5 page vent manga
>What are you working on at the moment?
my magnum opus kek
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
it's what got me started drawing in the first place
>What is you favourite manga?
saikyou densetsu kurosawa
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
takehiko inoue

>> No.6524289

>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
I'm just starting now dedpite being into it for almost 10 years
>Did you finish any projects?
No, but I'm starting my first one right now
>What are you working on at the moment?
Simple stuff like online strips/4 pages comics to post on social media, mostly simple SOL stuff to work on character writing and interaction but still.
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
I like drawing and I'm hoping to become a pro one day, I also like stories but writing actual novels will take x3 times the work it takes to make a comic.
>What is you favourite manga?
Kinda basic response but Slam Dunk by Takehiko Inoue. Shout-out to Gon by Masashi Tanaka as well.
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Hard to answer since I like a lot of artists, but I'll go with Kazushi Hagiwara and Hiroyuki Takei. I'd say Toriyama as well, but I like his vidya artworks way more than his manga ones.

>> No.6524506

What are some manga/ mangaka that draw backgrounds manually instead of tracing/ photobashing

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Don't know if this is the best thread to ask it, but how many notorious western webcomics that started this decade there are as of now (mostly talking about shonen/action/adventure/capeshit type stories)? Outside of Ramia-Yana, I can only think of pic related, and I am not sure I'd exactly call it "popular".

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>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
2018

>Did you finish any projects?
Yes, I finished my first comic, A Story of Fire
https://astoryoffire.the-comic.org/

>What are you working on at the moment?
Wings of Daera. Revenge story about a kid being dragged by a rebel girl to kill the four people that destroyed her hometown. Think Kill Bill + Trigun.
https://tapas.io/series/Wings-Of-Daera
wingsofdaera.cfw.me/

>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
I also write novels but haven't in years. Visual represents my ideas better and I love manga.

>What is you favourite manga?
Hoshi no Samidare probably, or Usogui.

>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Okama or Nagabe.

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>>6525159
That's it for the latest pages, do read my comic anons and tell me how the fuck I improve. I keep doing figure drawing.

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>>6524223

>How long have you been drawing manga?
About 2 years, since 2020.

>Did you finish any projects?
Yes - 2 chapters of my manga, Aecast.
https://tapas.io/series/aecast

>What are you working on at the moment?
Chapter 3. Finished storyboarding and am now inking.

>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
Not good enough to be a writer, plus I always had ideas I wanted to express visually.

>What is your favourite manga?
Don't have one.

>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Don't have one.

>> No.6525418

Is there any real life example of somebody who started his career in comics, BDs manga or whatever past 40 after pursuing completely different careerpath before?

Asking for a friend...

>> No.6525506

This is my favorite general on this board. So much pure, unbridled passion for this difficult art form.

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>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
I've been drawing comics for 10 years but I only started trying to focus on a more manga style maybe the past couple of years.
>Did you finish any projects?
Yep I finished Purrvana and A Song of Mice and Fur which is a 136 page graphic novel I'm pretty happy with
>What are you working on at the moment?
The finale of volume 3 of my comic about bards druids and idols in 360 AD Ireland called Oi! Tales of Bardic Fury
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
I grew up reading it and it's my favorite style of comic. I think the storytelling is very cinematic in manga which is what I love about it. I want to tell grand epic stories and animating solo takes way too long. Manga/comics allow me to tell stories while combining my love of writing and drawing
>What is you favourite manga?
Hunter x Hunter and Otoyomegatari. Demon Slayer is one of my new favorites, I think the ending and final chapters are absolutely beautiful. Your Lie in April is also one of my favorites and I'm currently reading Farewell, My Dear Cramer. Arakawa's storytelling is very nice.
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Togashi and Kaoru Mori

Here's a new batch of pencils I'm working on. Each piece of paper is two pages.
1/4

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>>6525601
2/4
inking this all will take awhile, I'm going to start sleeping less in the coming days to grind it all out. It's the climax of vol 3 so I want it to be good and have nice payoffs after all the buildup

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>>6525607
3/4

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>>6525610
4/4

>> No.6525728

HI guys, I feel like I'm in an endless purgatory of making manga + no one seeing it. What actionable steps should I take to turn this into a career?

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>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
Since November
>Did you finish any projects?
Lol no
>What are you working on at the moment?
>working
instant allah i finish the last page of chapter 2 of this 3 page gag comic before the end of february
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
I'm having fun but I also plan on doing a book (i can write as well as I draw)
>What is you favourite manga?
Soremachi
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Masakazu Ishiguro but I also like Raiku Makoto. Im usually very influenced by whatever im reading so i went from referencing Cromartie in the first chapter to Crows in the 2nd. Normally when I study I copy Ishiguro but recently I've been more and more interested in the art of Soul Eater and Drag on Dragoon 1+2, so I plan on doing studies of those over the weekend while finishing up that last page. Although of what I'm reading right now, I like Urasawa's style and Pluto is interesting but I like his mechanical designs more than his characters thanks for reading my blog

>> No.6525992

>>6525728
>endless purgatory of making manga + no one seeing it
This could be an issue of skill and/or not utilizing social media in the right way. Easiest way would be to pyw and we could tell you what you can level up on.

>> No.6526033

>>6525992
let's just say it's not a skill issue (because that will just work itself out over time), how should a comic artist handle social media / get work?

My plan is to just send in a portfolio to a publisher and hope for work, but I feel like most of them aren't interested in a b/w manga style.

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>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
Just starting two weeks ago (starting to take illustration classes at community college )
>Did you finish any projects?
none
>What are you working on at the moment?
none
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
Showing someone a scene instead of reading it is always more impactful.
>What is you favourite manga?
picrel
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Urusawa , Tetsuya Chiba , Early Toriyama , Keisuke itagaki , Karou Mori and Yuto Suzuki . (for western its Herge , Carl Barks , Don Rosa , Dan Decarlo , Juanjo Guarnido , Jack Kirby , Glen Keane , Will Eisner , Harvey Kurtzman and Darwyn Cooke )

>> No.6526047

>>6526033
If you're interested in gaining traction as a comic artist then posting short comics will be the best way. Anything from 1 - 8 pages per twitter post. Fanart will be the most surefire way to get noticed at first. I know some artists are iffy about fanart here but even publishers/recruiters will often come artists and be like "I saw your fanart of xxx series and love the composition, etc. Are you interested in working with us?. Indie comic co.'s are fine with limited palettes but it's true that only Viz Originals or comic co.'s looking for line artists/pencilers will be interested by B/W manga stuff.

>> No.6526091

>>6526047
For those social media comics, do you recommend simplifying the artwork, so I can pump out a greater number? Or should i do them normally?

>> No.6526207

>>6526091
It really depends on your priorities. If you're building your portfolio and looking for industry jobs I would recommend treating most of them as "finished pieces" since recruiters will not contact someone who only posts sketchy/unfinished looking work and then you can later pick and choose your favortie of the high quality short comics to put into your portfolio. If you're mainly trying to gain clout/followers to expand your reach, then you should prioritize getting art out at a consistent frequency (for example 1x a week) and simplify your process as much as you need to in order to keep up with that schedule.

>> No.6526230

>>6526207
thanks for your advice man

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Nep and Noire wrestling comic WIP I'm commissioned to draw

>> No.6526580

its a lot harder than i thought to draw things like rooms, backgrounds, furniture, etc. everything I draw just looks like a fucking map, like the lines are just arbitrary.

>> No.6526585

>>6526580
I am struggling with this too, after drowning myself in figure studies for the last 7 years. Best advice i can give you is to reference lots of manga as you draw.

>> No.6526588

How do you make money from making webcomics ? Patreon , merch , ads , physicals volumes ?

>> No.6526914

>>6524683
Kamen America

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>they can't do 9 pencil drafts in 10hours (single day)
ngmi

>> No.6527012

>>6526971
Post your work anon. Show us the way.

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>>6526971
Uh... who the fuck said that, i know that i can do 9 full pages in 6 days, and that was when i barely knew how to use digital

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>>6527012
>>6527024
>filename
You retards, that's yukinobu hoshino
go watch his Manben episode.

>> No.6527105

>>6527064
What's his best work? The paneling you posted is very good but I need to see if his skill matches the writing.

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>>6527105
>The paneling you posted is very good but I need to see if his skill matches the writing.

Dude , he's practically the Scorsese of SF manga in japan.

>Blue Hole
>Blue World
>2001 Nights
>Professor Munkata

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>>6527064
>that texture on the furniture

>> No.6527165

>>6526971
>>6527064
What do your drafts look like anon? How many pages can you draft in a day? What does your finished work look like?

>> No.6527309

>>6526585
I'm trying to find references but every manga just traces photos of buildings, or puts some kind of black and white filter on the photo. I really don't want to do that.

>> No.6527379

>>6527309
Try manga made before 2010, zoomanon.

>> No.6527390

>>6527379
That's not even it, that guy just hasn't read enough manga period. I can think of stuff even currently running in WSJ that doesn't just trace or filter photos, namely Sakamoto Days. He hasn't done his research and instead just wants to be spoonfed.

>> No.6527397

>>6527390
Perhaps he can't recognize a drawing from a traced photo either and just assumes anything that looks good is cheated.

>> No.6527442

>>6527390
>He hasn't done his research and instead just wants to be spoonfed.
Isn't the point of this thread for anons to ask questions and seek advice from other anons? Why act like a snobby gatekeeper?

>> No.6527500

>>6527442
I was just stating the plain fact. Yes, he can ask here, and he got answers including mine pointing to where he should look. Those answers just came with telling him that he's either not looking in the right place or not looking closely enough even at mainstream works if he couldn't find an example of what he was looking for. Plus he phrased the question with an "all manga do x" statement when he's clearly not knowledgeable enough to be making any kind of blanket statement like that with any kind of authority.

>> No.6527530

>>6527500
Ok I understand, you're very autistic. Carry on.

>> No.6527562

>>6527530
>explains his position logically while showing compassion to the newcomer
>"you're autistic lol"
Just take the L man. No need to respond either.

>> No.6527641

>>6527390
of course I dont read manga, I cast aside all time wasting activities like that to try and make it

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Give me your favorite book on storytelling. I'll list the ones I've studied deeply, and rank them according to how much they've helped me. If you want a detailed review, I'll write one for you.

S-Tier
>Araki's "Manga in Theory and Practice"
>Robert McKee's "Story"
>Kenneth Thorpe Rowe's "Write that play"
>David Mamet's "On Directing Film"

A-Tier
>Dwight Swain's "Technique of Fiction"
>Walter S Campbell's "Writing Magazine Fiction"
>Thomas Uzzell's "Narrative Technique"

B-Tier
>Northrop Frye's "Anatomy of Criticism"
>Mako Itsuki's "Shoujo Manga Techniques: Writing Stories"

Trash
>John Truby's "Anatomy of Story"
>Christopher Booker's "7 basic plots"

Currently studying
>George Pierce Baker's "Dramatic Technique"
>Percival Wilde's "Craftsmanship of the One Act Play"
>William Archer's "Play-making"
>John Howard Lawson's "Technique of Playwriting"

Frankly, all of these books are redundant. Araki's book is the best, I think. Just create great characters, throw unexpected obstacles at them, and build to a crisis, and end your story satisfactorily. Everything else is just different ways of rehashing that. After that, you just practice and study other stories. Robert McKee is a semi-failed screenwriter, but all his information is just a repetition of Araki's information, so I found it useful. Kenneth Rowe taught Arthur Miller and Lawrence Kasdan, and I found his book also very useful, yet also a repetition of Araki's teachings. David Mamet's book is great too, same as McKee and Rowe.

The books in the trash tier are actually horrible. They actively point you in the wrong direction. Stay away from them. The books in the A and B tier have great gems, but they also have wrong information from time to time. "Wrong", in that if you compare their theories to actual popular stories, it doesn't work.

Tell me what you guys think. What books have helped you the most?

>> No.6527672

>>6527641
If you read manga, you'll find references. Simple as.

>> No.6527845

Does anybody knows a manga that would read as a shaft anime?

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Any advice pertaining to learning to draw/finish pieces faster?

I feel that currently, that's my biggest hurdle... I'm just not getting stuff done "on time" (I haven't started a comic per se, it's just personal illustration with self-set deadlines)

>> No.6527865

>>6527848
You have nothing that properly holds you accountable for missing deadlines so there's basically no risk or loss to anything. Also, your brain doesn't recognize any rewards for actually meeting self set goals as being worth the effort so no incentive to actually do a good job. It's a recipe for underachievement.
Advice would be to actually draw for money and having an angry audience for not meeting deadlines.

>> No.6528058

>>6527848
You have to learn how to compartmentalize your workflow/skills. How much can you get done in a certain amount of time? Is the quality/quantity of work good enough for 1 hour's worth? How about 2 hours? Etc.

Think of the whole thing as a workflow. What part of the process can you cut down on for time while improving your output? What can you change to get the most out of each page based on the amount of time spent on average? These are the things you should be asking yourself.

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>it still takes an entire week to draw one page
>pros do 12 to 17 pages a week

>> No.6528206

>>6528110
Pros have assistants to ink, draw backgrounds and do tones. It's not that hard to pencil 20 pages a week.

>> No.6528253

On the subject of deadlines, would anyone else want to use a website similar to /DAD/, but geared towards making chapter deadlines?
I was thinking it could copy a standard publishing schedule, you would pick either weekly or monthly chapters and get deadlines for roughs and finished pages based on that. Everyone would be ranked based on streak + pages per period. The goal would be to get you to keep moving and improving instead of overthinking and stalling on the same page forever.
You wouldn't need to upload your art directly to the website - or wouldn't be able to, not sure I want to pay for all that storage - and could use webtoons/MPC/whatever links.

>> No.6528569

>>6528253
That would be amazing. Even if I’d probably give up after 3 days.

>> No.6528580

>>6528253
I'd rather simply set my own deadlines and follow them than join your gay website.

>> No.6528583

>>6528253
Nobody would use it aside from begs who would only use it for a few days. The reason being that people don't want to be associated with this place. If somebody's story actually starts getting traction, then they have no reason to stay here and would take it somewhere else where the audience actually exists.

>> No.6528657

>>6528580
>I'd rather simply set my own deadlines
Then it's not a deadline, it's a suggestion.

>>6528583
Not him but I think you misunderstood, nothing about that concept requires associating with this website. Even DAD allows blurred submissions.

>> No.6528713

>>6528657
It's still a deadline, it's just not a deadline on your gay website.

>> No.6528717

>>6528569
>give up after 3 days
I might give you a badge if you stayed longer.
>>6528580
It would be for people who can't keep arbitrary deadlines, like myself
>>6528583
>people don't want to be associated with this place
Just sign up with a pseudonym, like >>6528657 said there are ways to avoid this, lots of /DAD/s have outside fanbases and don't overtly associate with 4chan, but
>If somebody's story actually starts getting traction, then they have no reason to stay here and would take it somewhere else
Why are you here to begin with? If you plan to leave the minute you get popular then why wait, just move to twitter now.
I wouldn't expect it to be a permanent home for anyone's manga anyways, obviously if you get published there might be problems with that. The point of the idea is to give people a structure to train good habits.

Continuing the idea, I wouldn't host any images myself. I'd like to encourage thread links so people would still be posting here. User submissions would redirect to the thread, or an archive site after the thread dies.
Even then I'm still unsure if I could handle the website myself, I already work a fulltime job and it would take time away from drawing. Worse than not making it would be making it, having people sign up, then abandoning them.

>> No.6528724

>>6528713
>It's still a deadline
You don't know what a deadline is if you think just telling yourself "I'm going to get this done by x day" is a deadline. That's a goal, not a deadline. Deadlines are external.

>> No.6528787

>>6528724
>muh deadlinerino
But if I put it on this gay website it suddenly becomes a deadline?

>> No.6528819

>>6528253
It's a nice thought but I genuinely think it's a bad use of people's time, especially the /beg/ artists, who are the last people who should be attempting to churn out that many pages a week/month. A more reasonable task would be a short comic or 4 pages a week to keep people creating but asking others to legitimately put in ~60 hours of work a week is insane if people here have another job or are trying to get a job in the comics industry. Why spend so much energy "practicing deadlines"? It shouldn't be so hard to meet deadlines or get started unless you're depressed, have ADHD, or are a confused /beg/.

>> No.6528875

>>6528787
Yes because you will lose rank if you don't. It's like gamification, it helps some people but it's not for everyone.
>>6528819
I think 10 pages a month is pretty reasonable. Being a beg is a bad excuse to not make manga anyways.

>> No.6528909

How do you make Ben-Day dots it seems tedious as fuck to do them all manually. Is there a csp brush to do it easily?

>> No.6528920

>>6528909
CSP can convert regular paint layers to halftone.
For imitating the color stuff there's retrosupply's ColorLab. It's not on cgpeers but I know it's in circulation and might show up on brush threads because someone posted it a while ago, but the older links are down by now.

>> No.6529070

>>6528875
>Yes because you will lose rank if you don't. It's like gamification, it helps some people but it's not for everyone.
That's the gayest thing I ever heard

>> No.6529155

>>6528787
No, since there still aren't real consequences, but it's still better than purely setting a date yourself without anything to hold you to it. I probably wouldn't use a site like that myself but I know people that gamifying a streak actually helped so I don't see why not. Nobody said YOU have to use something like that you big gay dumb dumb.

>> No.6529157

>>6528819
>especially the /beg/ artists, who are the last people who should be attempting to churn out that many pages a week/month
???
Blasting chapters out helped me a fuckload when I was starting out. From where I'm sitting that's exactly what will help beginners the most.

>> No.6529281

>>6529157
If you want to put them through hazing then let them play the real social media game. It'll help them way more in the long run. No need for some dumb secret club you're making.

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>>6529281
>making stuff and getting lots of mileage
>hazing
Wtf?
Also I'm not even the guy talking about making a site, that's a separate issue.

>> No.6529652
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6529652

I'm planning on doing a new comic but I don't have much hability with inking pen. I can draw decently with a normal pencil but if I try to ink it the result will not be good. Do you guys used to mix both traditonal and digital? I noticed that only digital work I miss a lot of things and I get stressed instead of having fun with the process.

>> No.6529679

>>6529652
Try planing out your idea for the final inkwork more with your pencil draft, with your pencil draft keep only what you will ink later on, don't shade extraneous lines you will not ink. I think knowing how to do less and do more of some things in your pencil draft will help, or at least that's what I try to do. If you are struggling with confidence or hand dexterity it is something you will just improve with the more you ink.

>> No.6529696

>>6529679
>If you are struggling with confidence or hand dexterity it is something you will just improve with the more you ink.
yeah, working hard is the only way to improve. If I make mistake or something in the process I can use the digital media to fix it at least.

>> No.6529722

>>6529155
>but I know people that gamifying a streak actually helped
Gay af. Zoomers are a mistake.

>> No.6530078
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6530078

Trivial question, but what hobbies will help enrich my writing?

Current things I'm considering:
>reading lots of novels / sci-fi short stories
>playing jazz piano/singing/dancing
>playing Go/Weiqi
>getting into /x/ topics
>plein air painting

Each are huge time investments and I don't want to make the wrong choice. What hobbies do (you) have?

>> No.6530098

>>6529722
Most of the people I know I 24+.

>> No.6530101

>>6530078
Life experience. If you have no life experience what are you going to write about?

>> No.6530103
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6530103

>>6530098
>>6529155
>>6528253
>"muh lets gamification making manga because otherwise I'll sit on my ass doing nothing"
Embarrassing. Making manga is not for you, anons.

>> No.6530119

>>6530101
what a redundant reply. I know i need life experience. Give me hobbies that will help.

>> No.6530124

>>6530101
Sorry. I was overly mean to you. I’m a piece of shit human.

>> No.6530141

>>6530078
Music related activities has the highest chance of things straight up happening due to how social it is.

>> No.6530146

>>6530103
I already said I wouldn't use such a site myself. I already have no problem making comics on my own, but there are undeniably lots of people who don't and gameifying it could help some of them get off their ass.

>> No.6530154
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>>6530141
thank you! Jazz piano / singing it is

>> No.6530164

>>6525347
>2 years
If that pic is your original then damn you got good. How often/long did you practice?

>> No.6530215

>>6530119
You need me to tell you what hobbies go pursue too? How helpless are you? Do things you enjoy and appeal to you- I don't know what that is, only you do.

>> No.6530283

>>6530103
One of the better known mangaka of this generation sat on his ass playing idolm@ster until he died.

>> No.6530302

>spend one hour on a small part because its annoying to get it right
>only to realize the dialog box will completely hide it
fuck me, I never learn

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6530307

>>6530164

Thanks for the nice words, anon. I sure as hell didn't start out at that level. I remember at one point staring at a page not understanding how the hell hair (as a concept) worked. I started drawing technically around 2017 or so. Picked up a drawing monitor in 2019. Used to draw every single day for a few hours, but nothing insane since I also had a day job.

I just did my time practicing fundamental studies and trying to recreate panels/scenes from mangas I enjoyed reading, and that's it. For me, I think the trick was more consistency, rather than necessarily getting X hours of drawing in a day. Anyway, this is turning into a blog so I'll stop now.

>> No.6530308

>>6530307

Sorry, meant to clarify that I started drawing in 2017, but only tried to do manga/serious illustrations 2020 onwards.

>> No.6530309

>>6530283
Based Togashi still lives though

>> No.6530355

>>6530283
That's pure rumor started on 4chan and it doesn't even make sense to bring up even if it was true. Miura was a pro mangaka who met deadlines just fine for years before he supposedly became lazy, so you've got it backwards. And on top of that, this is an irrelevant thing to mention in the first place because gameifying work has nothing to do with playing video games and everything to do with setting up a reward system to trick yourself into being more productive. Actually playing video games has nothing to do with it, and a video game will still always be more addictive than any gameified work scenario.

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6530356

>>6529652
hmm maybe I will use both for now

>> No.6530360

>>6530078
Writing. Reading.

>> No.6530365

>>6528253
You can do that in these threads. Just revamp them a bit.

>> No.6530368

I've realized that where I struggle most is in the actual storyboarding process when it comes to page layout, which is an area I also sucked at back when I tried to storyboard for films.

What are the best resources or tools to improve in that area specifically?

>> No.6530381

>>6530368
Monkey see monkey do. Read manga/comics and pay attention to the paneling and layouts.

>> No.6530471

>>6530215
sorry, I'm a mess. I need all the life advice I can get

>>6530360
will watching anime everyday give me the same benefits as reading books?

>> No.6530484

>>6530471
>sorry, I'm a mess. I need all the life advice I can get
See a psychiatrist for mental, go to a gym for physical. Find God for spiritual.

>will watching anime everyday give me the same benefits as reading books?
Lol, no. I speak from experience and tell you it will only take you so far. If you're really that far behind on life then actually living it is all we can say. I don't know what your situation in life is nor is it really important, but you should really get out more often.

>> No.6530492

>>6530484
I have the Gym and God, but I don't want to see a psychiatrist. (I don't actually need it lol) I do need to go and socialize more. Any ideas on that would be appreciated. I tried to going to a life drawing class, but it was a super stifling atmosphere and no one wanted to talk.

>> No.6530498

>>6530492
BARS

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>>6530498
im so stupid

>> No.6530505

>>6530471
Anime is ass. I can literally count on my hand the select few that are great from a literary standpoint. If you’re so adverse to reading at least watch and study some goated films.

>> No.6530533

>>6530471
>will watching anime everyday give me the same benefits as reading books?
no
>sorry, I'm a mess. I need all the life advice I can get
seek therapy
>>6530492
>I don't want to see a psychiatrist. (I don't actually need it lol)
don't see a psychiatrist they will only push drugs on you. see a therapist.
>(I don't actually need it lol)
(yes you do lol)
>I tried to going to a life drawing class, but it was a super stifling atmosphere and no one wanted to talk.
they wanted to learn to draw better, not talk to the weird mental guy

>> No.6530557

>>6530505
>Death Note
>HxH
>Hajime no Ippo
>Steins;Gate
>Nagatoro
>Mob Psycho
That's more than 5 animes that are indeniably and objectively good. Do you have a deformed hand?

>> No.6530560

>>6530557
watching anime is not the same as reading actual books.

>> No.6530570

>>6530557
I like all of those but holy shit read a fucking book.

>> No.6530578

>>6530557
nta but what the fuck
none of these are bad as entertainment but if your goal is to become a better writer you're on the wrong track
go watch Mamoru Oshii's stuff or even just some Ghibli films if you haven't already, that might help ease you into literature

>> No.6530585

>>6530560
>>6530570
>>6530578
Don't get me wrong, I love reading books, but, I'm in the middle of this awkward phase of ajatt immersion learning for Japanese right now, and my Japanese isn't good enough for reading Japanese books, but I still don't want to take immersion time away from Japanese just to read an English book. I'm just looking for best comprimises, is all.

>> No.6530596

>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
About 20 years in general when I first realized I could do it myself, 10 professionally (aka for money).
>Did you finish any projects?
Yes.
>What are you working on at the moment?
Juggling a graphic novel with taking my webcomic off hiatus.
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
Manga is the best storytelling medium, objectively. It’s fast to read, fun to draw, and can do many things with its format no other medium can.
>What is you favourite manga?
It’s impossible to pick one, but Chainsaw Man has been my current favorite read.
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Jiro Matsumoto, Naoki Urasawa, and Moto Hagio are all such big inspirations, it’s hard to pick one.

>> No.6530599

>>6530596
Please give me some tips on how to turn comics into a career. I have literally no clue how to do it. Are you doing a webcomic on webtoons? Did you start on canvas? If your comic is good, will get automatically get noticed on canvas? How much money can you make on webtoons? How busy are you week to week on a constantly updating webcomic? Are you doing your graphic novel with a publisher, or by kickstarter? How difficult it is to get a graphic novel published with a publisher? Aren't publishers more apprehensive about graphic novels? Are you a writer, artist, or both? Any advice helps...

>> No.6530629

>>6530585
Not any of the Anons who replied previously but you literally mentioned a VN adaptation. Just read the original if you can't read comics or books.
I don't know if Matt's snake oil cult pushes anime now because it's easier for children with low attention span, but when I learned japanese VNs were recommended because it's easy to extract the text and you get a lot more listening and reading simultaneously when just anime dialogue doesn't make for a lot of reading.

>> No.6530639

>>6530629
Thank you, I’ve never read any VNs so I need to look into them. Also, I’m doing bare bones brutal sentence mining, I found the vocab cards made from yomichan don’t stick in my head that well. Can you copy and paste from VNs? Well, I guess I will just have to install it and see…

>> No.6530647
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>>6530639
Just do this:
https://animecards.site/visualnovels/
The site shows how to set Yomichan up for it, it's not nearly as technical as it looks.
You can get VNs from nyaa, but /jp/'s library has a bunch on MEGA: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/vn
But there's only so much studying you can get done in a given day before you start hitting diminishing returns. Matt's autism has only landed him a position as a novel gaijin circus monkey on daytime TV because he hardly developed any other marketable skills, so I recommend you don't spread yourself too thin focusing on nihongo alone. Language takes time to stick even if you go full immersion and if you want to draw comics there's a lot of other things on your plate already.

>> No.6530792

How do you choose what to focus your efforts on?
I started a comic, it looks like shit naturally, the thing is, it doesn't have to.
I know I can draw better. I'm not a master at all, but I've drawn better in illustrations than I did for my comic, but I was trying to put my 100% in every panel and going insane, I wasn't making any progress so I decided to give my 100% every page... But fucked it up and gave it for the whole comic, now the whole thing looks like ass.
I still published it because at a quick glance at other webtoon new comics, they were somehow worse for the most part.
But how to know which panels require more focus and which ones can go cartoony and simple.
I can redraw those first 15 pages but I feel really sad with the end result.

>> No.6530809

When do Mangakas get time to practice?
I've seen several mangakas improve their abilities though the years, but with so little free time do they get the time to practice.
I understand getting better at actual manga making, paneling, lineart, shading etc, but new things that actually require study like anatomy, hair and cloth, when do they study?

>> No.6530818

>>6530809
Golden week

>> No.6530820

>>6530809
I remember watching Yuusuke Murata working on a page and he was looking at references in a book. I thought it was comforting to see that even he looks at references while drawing. I'm the same, I look at references to help with whatever I'm drawing at the time and that's the only way I ever "studied". Maybe I took longer than necessary to improve though

>> No.6531715

What is your guys opinion on starting a manga TO improve?
some mutuals on twitter have started their own comics, and their illustration ability went from ngmi beg to half decent beg in about two months or so.

>> No.6531723

>>6531715
Yes, motherfucker
You're supposed to do other stories you care about a little less than your magnum opus until you become confident enough to do it
Practice stories can only help you improve

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>>6525612
next pages

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>>6531751

>> No.6531913

>>6530599
I’ll try to answer what I can, but some of my advice might not be relevant to someone starting now.

I don’t work with webtoons/canvas at all, but I do know that the money isn’t very good and is only getting worse with them changing their payout policies recently. You’re better off staying independent. Make a website. Missing the webtoon trend was the best thing for my career, I don’t think it’s worth it unless you’re re-running a comic you’ve posted/completed elsewhere first.

The GN is through a publisher that I have a preexisting relationship with. The prev GN I did for them sold well so they’re happy to work with me again. I got work with them thru one of the editors also working in the same circles for years and building up a friendship and mutual respect. They scouted me for an anthology, I delivered on time and to spec, so they trust me. Their advances are small but I have a lot of freedom.

If you want to work with a publisher, seek out ones with comic divisions already or are only comics. Most of the big pubs have comic divisions now because they want in on the YA/middle grade market. If you want that mythical six digit advance, find an agent, pitch them something that would work for those YA/MG publishers in the 150-200 page range. You can do it on your own, but an agent will always get you a better deal. Start with Niki Smith’s list of GN agents.

I do everything myself and am very busy- writing, inking, etc, but I do manage to take weekends off. 50 hr week is the average, sometimes longer depending on deadlines. I lucked out by both building connections years ago with friends who are more than willing to send work my way and by having a low cost of living.

If you’re looking to get into webcomics/webtoons/whatever right now: know that it can take years for it to be stable. Make sure you have mult income streams (shop, patreon, cons, commissions if you have time, etc). Be ready to work hard.

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Here's an attempt at making a comic page draft in around 1 hour (probably slighty less) or so. It kind of shows all the flaws I have right now regarding drawing in general (slow sketching, ugly shape design, problems regarding adding characters in perspective without it looking stiff, poor composition, etc.) but I feel like the flow and visual storytelling is kind of decent for a first timer? Story-wise (read left to right), Cassia (girl on the right) and Ferfou (girl on the left) are rivals with the latter teasing the former a lot. When the new year of the academy starts, Cassia is perplexed and confused by coming back at her dormitory room only to find out that Ferfou is her new room mate after a sorting made by the school council. Thoughts on this attempt overall? Can I start getting into comics now even if it's something small, or it might be convenient to grind core illustration and storytelling skills on their own for a significant amount of time? For this year I am trying to drastically change my art style to reflect my influences, as well as significantly increasing my draftmanship by grinding fundamentals more than I ever did before.

>> No.6532057

>>6532053
Gabe I just wish your characters didn't always look like they're about to fall over it's by far the most unnerving thing about your drawings and I can't fucking stand it
Forget all those other fundies for now I beg of you just make them stand on the ground watch this or something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLBhO-4YEww
Also that's fully penciled if you want to train storytelling and paneling you're better off drawing more thumbnails and storyboards like how manga-senpai churned out all those names

>> No.6532089

>>6531913
>know that it can take years for it to be stable.
Forget "can", make that "will", and tack a "and might never be" on top.

>>6532053
>but I feel like the flow and visual storytelling is kind of decent for a first timer?
>Thoughts on this attempt overall?
Dude, it's 1 page. Make a hundred more then look back. Quit pussy-footing around already and just make your damn comic. Let the figures look wonky or whatever, you improve on that as you do it, not before. Grinding fundies or whatever before starting was always the trap, you learn how to draw comics by drawing comics. You've probably be told this a hundred times by now, so please take heed.

>> No.6532136

>>6531913
thank you very much for getting back to me. I guess this career really is just that unstable. I'll figure something out

>> No.6532205
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6532205

Ok so I translated this page. Do you think some people would get interested in a comic about a femcel that goes on a rampage after "hitting the wall"?

>> No.6532254

>>6532205
>Do you think some people would get interested in a comic about a femcel
/a/ and /lit/ would totally

>> No.6532475

>>6532205
Yes. I can see a big female audience for this.
Try contacting Image Comics.

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6532497

>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
Hard to say because I studied in an art academy then stopped drawing for two years until two months ago
>Did you finish any projects?
Nah
>What are you working on at the moment?
I'm drawing a series (someone else's story) and we officially start soon
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
in my country it's a growing market, and I generally like it when I see immediate improvements in what I do (I don't like to draw if there's not something useful at the end)
>What is you favourite manga?
Whatever Dowman Sayman draws
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
See above

Pic related the MC in the project I'm working for

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6532505

>>6532497
Here an example of a final render. Maybe. I've changed the way I draw a lot in the last few weeks

>> No.6532758

>>6532497

Hey anon, this looks good. Do you have links for your work?

>> No.6532798

>>6532758
I'm @Tarlo_V on Tweet & Insta
When the comic sails I'll post the recent stuff

>> No.6532838

>>6532798

Cool. Added you - keep it up anon. I'm really digging your style.

>> No.6532979

>>6532205
femcel? I thought the one with curly hair was a troon

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I made this recently in tegaki xP just for fun

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6533037

>>6533036
continuation

>> No.6533101

>>6530283
No he didn't treat manga making as a game. But he did include his loli fetishes into it.

>> No.6533148

>>6533036
>>6533037
This is disgusting. Post more

>> No.6533182

>>6532205
Can I see more?

>> No.6533293

>>6532979
Just a case of not reading Loomis

>> No.6533326

>>6533101
Lolis were an intrinsic part of the Berserk mythos

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>>6533344

>> No.6533375
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Last week I drew a comic that turned out to be shit, turns out I was putting a lot of pressure on myself for no real reason.
I still published it on webtoon.
With that pressure of making my first comic out of the way, I decided to redraw, and really enjoyed the process and I think it's coming along a lot better.
I'm not blind, there's still a lot of room for progress. Some of which I think is still within my ability.
Should I redraw again what I think I can fix even though I haven't finished the first redraw or should I publish the redraw when it's done and just do the best possible the next time?
Should I pull down the original comic from webtoon or have both up?

>> No.6533724

>>6533375
what you should work on is storytelling in pictures. wtf is even happening here?

>one of the three musketeers
>person's head coming out of his ass
>eyes from ??
>jimmy neutron
>jimmy neutron with big lizard
>worried face from ??
>eyes from ??
>eyes from ??
>random pen (?) jammed off to the left in an almost unnoticeable panel
>??? is walking off of a table with a drawing and a soda can
>lizard has a tumor

There is no logical sequence of events here

>> No.6533727

>>6533724
>There is no logical sequence of events here
These aren't in order, lmao.

>> No.6533729

>>6533344
>>6533345
>comic for ants

>> No.6533733

>>6533375
I really don't see anything there that has improved enough to be worth posting again. Took me a second to realize which side was the new one, since some things are worse.

>> No.6534058

>>6533375
you need to get way way better at drawing. Start doing master copies and figure drawing every day. Anatomy once a week.

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>>6534058
I tend to draw slightly better on paper, I'm not making excuses, the end result was shit either way, but I'm not delusional trying to say I'm a master, what I'm trying to say, is what this was bad and disappointed even myself.

>> No.6534217
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>>6534213
Sage for samefagging, wrong pic.

>> No.6534275
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6534275

Any protips on how to improve my characters? I’m not sure if I’ve been staring at the page too long and lost the point, but I’m just not happy with it. It just looks and feels too ‘plain’.

>> No.6534465

>>6534275
Unironically follow this: https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

There's a famous story of a great surgeon, who spent 20 years in deep study, refining his craft and his knowledge of the human body through thousands of hours of grueling practice. Then, after the 20 years, when he gave interviews, he found that all of his advice and ideas were all considered overly "simplistic" and "obvious", even to the laypeople who didn't know anything about surgery.

That David Finch guide is sincerely the best roadmap to comic drawing I've ever read, but people keep dismissing it because they think it's "basic knowledge". It's not. If it were basic knoweldge, people here would be much better at drawing. I wish this link could be in the op of this general, because 90% of the regular posters in this thread need it.

>> No.6534491

>>6534275
Your best panel is the top left since it's the most cinematic. Everything else is bad.
You used 4 panels to showcase a shift in expression when you could've used 2. The brown man has a strange expression and isn't very clear if he's either really mad or slightly annoyed. In fact, all the expressions drawn are really subtle and flat even though I'm sure you weren't intending for that.
This leads to the next problem, your composition. You seem to have a problem with very "matter of fact" camera angles to just show what's happening objectively as though you're drawing an instruction manual even though it's a comic. The bottom right is what I assume two people opening/closing a car trunk. Why did you decide to place the camera angle there? What was so important that you had to showcase the whole body of two people plus back of the car crammed into the panel?
If you've seen a Tarantino movie, you'd know he places the camera in similar scenes inside the trunk facing the sky while the actors are talking and moving the story along. It does everything you're trying to do but much more dynamically. I'm not suggesting to just copy him but you have to think about how to showcase the story in interesting ways that grabs the reader's attention and conveys the story at the same time. Going back to your characters, they need more deformation to express themselves, which I'm sure you can do already, and place the camera differently, maybe more up close to show how mad the brown man is. Better silhouettes and gesture that make it clear how the characters are showcasing their emotion. Your characters are actors and you're the director,
Maybe you should read some manga and compare it to your comic again. You have somewhat adequate drawing ability but lack the toolset of telling the story visually through pictures.

>> No.6534533

>>6534465
I’m gonna give this a read.
>>6534491
The panels are divided into three rows, left to right - I’m confident that adding some actual dialogue would make that more apparent. Row 1 panel 2, she’s mocking him. Row 2 panel 1, he responds. Row 2 left top panel, she’s caught off guard, row 2 left bottom panel, she responds.
I know the trunk panel is REALLY bad, that one is still a WIP and going to be redone. Everything else is fair.

Thank you both very much for the responses.

>> No.6534538

>>6530078
Shooting. Hiking. Fishing. Anything physical that allows for ample time to self reflect gets my juices flowing.

>> No.6534772

What book or course do I have to take first to get it started?

>> No.6534795

>>6534772
Have to? None. Zip. Zilch.

>> No.6534805
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6534805

Do you draw character sheets only for major characters or did you draw for minor ones too?

>> No.6534812

>>6534805
I don't do character sheets, I just draw my characters. Once I get the design down I don't need references for them

>> No.6534814

>>6534805
Usually I don’t, but it can be helpful for complicated designs such as mechs, monster designs, and armored characters. Some characters I do, some I don’t.

>> No.6534823

>>6534812
>>6534814
I see. Usually I dont too but this time doing some will be helpful. Helmets, uniforms and weaponry are a bit complicated.

>> No.6534855

>>6534805
I might only do front and back at most
I can figure the rest out from that

>> No.6535378
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planning on doing a one shot like this

>> No.6535383

>>6534538
thanks <3

>> No.6535608

>>6534805
Do one full body and you're good

>> No.6535615

>>6534538
>shooting
god damn it i wish my country had a shooting range i could visit regularly. fishing is based, hiking would be better if my country had better sights. i need to move from this shit hole.

>> No.6535784
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6535784

>>6534805
>>6535608
MC sheet done

>> No.6535918

>>6535378
Solid dude. Where did you learn your techniques?

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God, drawing manga is so hard. I wish I wasn't so impatient.

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>>6535918
thanks bro.I'm self taught. A lot of trial and error.
Study other manga artists. If you have a problem, pay attention on how an artist you like solves that issue. For me it's clothes and it's folds, So lately I've been copying hojo tsukasa. Watching Manben helps. It's good to know every comic artist struggles, daily.

>> No.6537001

>>6535378
>>6536226
I dig this a lot, will be looking forward to your one shot.
>>6536217
>tfw you spindash into your homie's pad for some hot yaoi action

>> No.6537155
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6537155

I did this trying to simulate a manga style, it was fun to use tones and hatching

>> No.6537187

>>6536226
Is that the special type of blue that doesn't scan?

>> No.6537194

>>6536226
seeing professional mangakas redraw whole pages is comforting

>> No.6537210

>>6537187
You can just select the black lines in clipstudio or photoshop and make the blue disappear after scanning

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>>6537187
NTA but non-photo blue in specific was important back when technology was less advanced but these days scanners won't be blind to entire colours like that. People still use it because it's tradition and happens to be unobtrusive when drawing the final pass. Most lighter, higher chroma colours will be trivial to get rid of in post-processing by messing with colour channels.

>> No.6537394

>>6537155

Great work, anon. Better than what I can make, for sure.

>> No.6537397
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6537397

>>6537187
yes, I use the picrel. Some anon recommended to me.I really have enjoyed drawing with it!

>>6537155
I like it! You made some basic mistakes, like soft erasing the screentones and layering screentones. You can do that of course, but it makes it hard to mimic actual real screentones. Just looks too digital imo.

>> No.6537762

https://youtu.be/MYGN57uoR8o

BOICHI's BACK

>> No.6537779

>>6530078
nature journaling
bird watching
>>6535615
walk around, visit a garden, pay attention to small details and you will find something

>> No.6538104

>>6537217
So non-photo blue doesn’t work anymore like it used to is it better to stick with regular erasable pencil for the drafting process?

>> No.6538134

>>6538104
It still works just there’s no point to stick to it unless it’s a habit.

>> No.6538395

>>6537001
>tfw you spindash into your homie's pad for some hot yaoi actio

Lmao, made me kek.

>> No.6538567 [DELETED] 

>>6538104
Like that Anon said, it still works, you just use a different method to get rid of it when before it wouldn't scan in at all.
Before you absolutely had to use non-photo blue, but now you could use any old light blue or green or whatever and it'd be just as easy to get rid of through editing.

>> No.6538579

>>6538104
Like that Anon said, it still works, you just use a different method to get rid of it when before it wouldn't scan in at all.
Before you absolutely had to use non-photo blue, but now you could use any old light blue or green or whatever and it'd be just as easy to get rid of through editing. But that's not the only benefit of sketching with a different colour, in my opinion at least it makes it easier to draw the final pass because it's easier on the eyes than an achromatic grey. Even on digital it can be beneficial.

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6538582

Does anyone have any video showing a mangaka working on environments? I want to learn how to do it. I always feel like a total amateur when I try to work it with just my bare hands.

>Inb4 models / filters / assistants
Not all of them, not all the time, and not me.

>> No.6538584

>>6538582
Yoshikadu has a ton of those, as well as videos of himself doing entire pages:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqqj07WnQqs

>> No.6538627

>>6538579
I usually just use regular pencil but when even when I erase there are still stray marks left on the scan. Maybe I just need to learn how to edit properly.

>> No.6538635

>>6538627
Editing out a colour sketch might be cleaner than erasing, true, but there might be more factors at play. Do you use a hard lead for sketching? Even though they're light and should be easy to erase depending on the paper and how you draw it might be digging into the paper fibres making some parts impossible to erase completely.
Might be your eraser smudging things, too. Do you use a polymer one?

>> No.6539019

>>6538635
I use a 2b pencil lead, I've tried a 2b graphite pencil but from my experience it wears the paper more easily. Paper I use is copy paper. The marks are not too conspicuous so maybe it doesn't matter much. I don't use polymer but I recently got a new eraser to test.

>> No.6539155
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>>6539019
I don't think 2B normally smudges on copy paper, so maybe it's the eraser. Polymer ones tend to smudge a lot less, they're good for line-based stuff like cartooning which is why they're almost a standard with animators and comic artists. Copy paper isn't ideal but it's very versatile, convenient (specially when you're starting out and need to get some mileage in) and not that likely to be the culprit.
I just asked because it's better to diagnose the issue directly lest it rears its ugly head again if you tried doing something where you couldn't edit out the sketch like a drawing with colour.
Scanned pages need some level of digital post-processing no matter what, usually to get it closer to pure BW, so it's a good idea to give editing a deeper look either way.

>> No.6539214

>>6539155
It's not smudge marks I don't use polymer, I'm talking light traces or indentations from the pencil. It's okay it most likely doesn't matter I'm just being finicky probably. I will either try blue pencil for experimenting purposes to see if it's faster or just edit my scans more. Thanks for your responses I appreciate it.

>> No.6539265

Anyone here read Lajos Egri's "Art of Dramatic Writing"? Apparently it was a recommended book for over 100 years of playwriting and screenwriting history that everyone used to structure their stories. The people who wrote classic movies like Casablanca and such all studied Egri. Curious to hear your thoughts on this

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>>6539265
I haven't read it but I want to read the Araki book soon.
Drew some new pages
https://tapas.io/episode/2779323

>> No.6539680

>>6524203
What is a good story, how would you know if yours is any good? I got plenty of ideas, but I never know if they're worth expanding into a story. It's what keeping me back.

>> No.6539708

>>6539680
you cant tell if you never build upon the ideas
explore the idea, drop it when you get bored

>> No.6539807

there are like 4 different ways to do screentones on csp, what's the smartest way? And can I just download premade fullscreen screentones that i can cut and erase like the real thing?

>> No.6539849

It's been a while since I had this much fun drawing a panel. Boobas boobas

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>>6539849
fuck my internet connection

>> No.6539858

>>6539680
same.
>>6539708
even if i do, when i look back to edit my draft into something more coherent i end up trashing it because i lose interest in the story. maybe i’m being too critical.

>> No.6539872

>>6539858
Same thing happens to me. Just keep trucking through it until you come up with a premise that keeps your interest. If it can't even keep you invested, it probably won't grab other readers either

>> No.6540034

>>6539680
Make an elevator pitch and tell friends what they think of it. Rather than just one sentence, a short description of the premise would be good. Try sharing 3-5 story ideas to different people and see which ones consistently garner the most interest. You can practice by making descriptions of manga you find interesting as practice. For example, if you were pitching Fabricant 100, you'd mention the following points
>a family of humans with superhuman genes gets slaughtered by a group of "fabricants"
>fabricants are rogue man-made humans that steal body parts from actual humans because they crave perfection
>in a last bid to save himself, the surviving child of the family offers his adult body to whichever fabricant can kill all the other fabricants
>the strongest fabricant kills the other ones there and agrees to partner up with the boy until he's of age
>now boy has 4 years to track and kill the other fabricants while thinking of a way to also kill his fabricant partner

>> No.6540054

>>6538584
This is really helpful, thanks. I don't have a lot of tools this guy does - 3d models aside, I'm not sure what he uses to have straight lines that align to a premade perspective grid like that - but seeing it done in practice still helps a ton.

>> No.6540133

>>6540054
There's a perspective ruler tool in CSP, and perspective grids you can download.

>> No.6540228
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>Constantly ask my friends about their series they're making together
>Give them hypotheticals and fan art even offer up ideas
>They've never once even mentioned my series I'm working on
They know it exists but they don't even ask a simple question while I'll ask them a dozen and give them fan art out of no where for no reason just to make them happy.
Feels bad man

>> No.6540479
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almost there

>> No.6540501

>>6540479
Arms are way too short on the girls

>> No.6540503

>>6540228
get published and prove them wrong!

>> No.6540627

Anyone here color their comics?

>> No.6540659

>>6540228
i've noticed the same pattern in a lot of one-sided "friendships" in the past. i think once you set yourself up as an emotional tool for them rather than an actual person, it becomes very hard to get out of that role.
it stings hard when you offer someone heartfelt advice time and time again, but the one time you need someone to console you, the best you get is a one-word reply or "that sucks"

find better friends

>> No.6540679

>>6539851
what happened to her right hand?

>> No.6541013

>>6540034
Bretty gut. But I wouldn't ask my friends because they have shit taste.

>> No.6541067

>>6539851
Did you use reference for the neck area and arm, is she putting her arms behind her back here?

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>> No.6541334

Are cartoon comics allowed?

>> No.6541349

>>6541334
There are no goddamn rules to these generals. Post whatever the fuck you like. This isn't elementary school. "Get in a single file line, kids!" Fuck THAT!

>> No.6541684

>>6541334
I don't know what the other anon is smoking, this general is for manga techniques and styles. You can post your work if you find some justification for it, like you use a lot of hatching or whatever, the thread is slow anyways. Someone will tell you to fuck off to >>>/co/ if it's too western, and you'd probably get more attention there anyways.

>> No.6541709

>>6541684
Anon I'm pretty sure the other guy was encouraging him to post whatever he wants.

>> No.6541724

>>6541709
I'm not questioning his intent. Generals do have rules, it's in the OP and it's what makes them generals.

>> No.6541732

>>6541724
Very well then:
>this general is for manga techniques and styles
Tezuka used the exact same techniques and styles as the Disney comics did. It's all just ink on paper, there's no clear divide. The techniques that today's manga artists are using are the same techniques that today's cape comic inkers are using. You discuss one and you're discussing the other.

>> No.6541733

>>6541684
This isn't fucking /asg/. This is a "comics" general, with a clear bias towards manga. But western comics should be allowed too, since we share the same storytelling and dramatic techniques. Don't be a puritan.

>> No.6541773

>>6541732
>>6541733
This is /mmg/. Manga is a broad but well defined type of comic that overlaps with and influences other styles and mediums. I even said
>You can post your work if you find some justification for it, like you use a lot of hatching or whatever
in >>6541684, I'm not being a puritan.
If the thread consensus is to become /cmg/ then fine, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

>> No.6541785

>>6541773
Manga is just the japanese word for "comics". They're the same, you're just being very superficial.

>> No.6541836

>>6541785
I wasn't aware I was arguing with retards, I'll lay off.

>> No.6541839

>>6541836
Thanks <3 the thread'll be better off without you

>> No.6541840

>>6541836
Do you believe that anons have to be Japanese in order to make manga? Does a comic need to be written in Japanese for you to consider it manga?

>> No.6541842

>>6541773
We've had this discussion a thousand times. Comics are allowed.

>> No.6541853

>>6541836
Do you even draw manga, faggot? It seems like you only exist in this thread to autistically argue and bitch.

>> No.6541992

Uh, if one were to hypothetically drop a nib into a bottle of ink, how would one best go about recovering it?

>> No.6541994

>>6541992
Chopsticks

>> No.6541995

>>6541992
Chug! Chug! Chug!

>> No.6542021

>>6541994
I knew I should have learned to use chopsticks. Tweezers sound like a good idea though, I guess I'll live with it until I can get a pair. Or one would have to live with it, unless they had a pair of tweezers, I mean.
>>6541995
I'm more of a glue man

>> No.6542281
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>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
since 2020. It was my covid obsession
>Did you finish any projects?
finished chapter 1 of my serial manga
>What are you working on at the moment?
chapter 2
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
cos I like berserk, ghost in the shell, akira. Aesthetic reasons, mostly
>What is you favourite manga?
Either berserk, gits or akira, but I like a few gag manga too, and stuff like toriyama. I'm also a fan of older stuff like Lone Wolf and Cub
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Miura, without a doubt

roseandthorncomic.com

>> No.6542508
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6542508

>>6540627
Am I doing it right?

>> No.6543280

are there any tips for using background 3D in manga? i want to learn how to draw hentai but it'd be pain in the ass to draw background scene in every corner.

https://twitter.com/poriuretan_dayo/status/1540520397447147520 kinda want to draw like this. rotate angle etc.

what's a source how to use/learn/buying/creating background. like buying entire house 3D that has many room to use ... toilet,bedroom,living room etc.

>> No.6543299
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>>6543280
Study how artists you like do it.
Don't draw backgrounds when ou don't need to
Watch blender tutorials.

>> No.6543522
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6543522

隠しでも、胸の音。。。聴こえでしょ?

>> No.6543917

>>6543522
a chin chong nip nong to you too, young lady

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3 months and still don't know how to tackle the first page issue, and yes i did read araki on that topic, but still i can't get over beating myself with that
I'm stuck and i can't (don't want to give up on this yet) move on

>> No.6544216

>>6530557
This dumb fuck put hajime no ippo and steins gate against literary classic. This is why weebs will always be made fun off because you literally consume no other types of media.

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>>6543522

>> No.6544279

>>6544200
dont do the first page. Draw the 6 one.

>> No.6544282

>>6544216
Hajime is literally way better than the Legend of King Arthur. Gilgamesh doesn't come close. Sorry, did you say "The Odyssey?" Nope, not even close.

>> No.6544819
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Finished 4 new pages. I'm trying to build up the bad guys before they get btfo by the heroes
https://m.tapas.io/episode/2782769
>>6544200
Just do it. If it's not good just draw something new. The best way to learn is to do

>> No.6544863

>>6544200
You just don't know storytelling well enough then. Learn what story-beats are, and quickly get into your inciting incident. Read Robert McKee.

If you need a prompt, then draw a 5-8 page story on this outline:
>A child admires a Koi pond, when her mean older brother pushes her into the pond. She crushes one of the Koi.
>Terrified and sad, she tries to resuscitate the Koi, when the spirit of the Koi comes out and offers her a deal. She can give up one of her bodyparts (an eye, a finger) in order to revive the Koi. OR she can give up one of her older brother's bodyparts, of her choice. She chooses to let the Koi die, and she leaves the garden with her brother, terrified at the experience.

>> No.6544951

>>6524203
>How long have you been drawing manga?
only some random pages on paper with random storylines with my current characters though never really finished
>Did you finish any projects?
nope, want to but right now my main focus is on my main story which im planning on starting in two years
What are you working on at the moment?
my current "manga" though just trying to set up story elements
Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
i like drawing, and figure its a great medium to tell a story
What is you favorite manga?
berserk or goodnight pun pun
Who is your favorite manga artist?
inio asano, love his artstyle and his works

>> No.6545091

>>6524203
Just realized something as I was studying expression. In Please don't bully me, Nagatoro, senpai has basically a concerned expression as his baseline, and Nagatoro an evil smirk. They have these expressions for most panels. I don't know if this is genius or a cop out.

I wonder if I should design a character with a base expression instead of just a neutral one. The upside will be that in every drawing of the character it has some kind of interesting expression.

>> No.6545319
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Redpill me on anime noses

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>>6545319
alright

>> No.6545929

>>6545091
Anon, this is your first great stride towards great manga. Don't back off from your discovery. Seize it, and move forward!

>> No.6545965
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>>6524223
>How long have you been drawing manga?
Started around the beginning of 2014, but there was a ~3 year period where I didn't make much at all from 2017 to 2020.
>Did you finish any projects?
I've finished one-shots and chapters, but none of the series I've started thus far have I managed to complete.
>What are you working on at the moment?
I'm the lead artist (paid) on a series, and there's always side-projects in my pocket. Though lately I've been spending my spare time playing video games rather clocking off after drawing for work all day just to draw more stuff. I'll likely go back to doing that at some point though.
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
Comics is one of the mediums where the primary cost of production is time. When I started, time was all I had for currency to tell stories. It's made me pretty time-poor as a result though. As for why manga specifically? No real reason, it's just the natural result of taking a quantity over quality approach with your pages, and since it's a well-established industry it simply made sense to follow the same approach with my own stuff.
>What is you favourite manga?
The answer changes all the time. I'd say the manga I think is probably the best I've read is Kokou no Hito, and it's sometimes my favorite, but other times my favorite might be Blame!, or Fire Punch.
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Again, my favorite changes all the time. I like Togashi's line work and layouts/storytelling a lot, and his character design is pretty good too. Blame!/Biomega-era Nihei is contending for some of the GOAT art in manga IMO, though Masanori Morita is pretty damn difficult to top. Then of course there's Obata, and Inoue, Shirohama, Hayashida and so on... Plus Shinichi Sakamoto during Kokou no Hito was really going above and beyond (though after that he went a bit off the deep end with his style/approach IMO).
I think if there's one I always come back to as a favorite it's Blame! though.

>> No.6546098
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Hey anons! New chapter of my comic/manga/thing is out!
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/ashes-of-eden-the-illustrata/to-strengthen-the-mind/viewer?title_no=835486&episode_no=2
I just hope I finish chapter 3 on time

>> No.6546211
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6546211

>>6545965
>I'm the lead artist (paid) on a series
What series?

>> No.6546275

>>6545965
Glad youre still around, i like your work

>> No.6546280

>>6546211
https://medibang.com/mpc/titles/sp2301091233403250023967674/
>>6546275
Thanks.

>> No.6546286

>>6546280
your art for that series is incredible. I knew your personal work that you post here is great, but your professional work is on another level

>> No.6546291

>>6546286
Thanks. Keep in mind I don't do every aspect of the art. I don't do any coloring whatsoever, and I only sketch the backgrounds for the most part. Some of the toning is me (only simple and quick stuff), some of the effects are me, but a lot of that stuff is the two assistants I work with.
What I do is:
1. character designs
2. sketching the pages (working off a storyboard given to me by the writer), including notes for the assistants
3. inking the characters/effects
4. checking over the pages after the assistants are done with it
Backgrounds, some mob character stuff and most of the toning is handled by the assistants.

>> No.6546302

>>6546291
Interesting, do your assistants work remotely? One of the struggles I have is that I feel like I can't set up a studio in America because of how sprawling the country is. (plus i live in a small town) How do you manage your assistants and make sure they don't bail on you?

>> No.6546308

>>6546302
Well, yeah it's remote. If anything I'm the remote one, given I live down under.
The assistants want to get paid and they don't get paid if they bail. It's that simple. Why ditch?

>> No.6546316

>>6546308
I see, that's simple :)

>> No.6546318

>>6546308
oh, one more question, where do you find assistants? Finding colorists is easy, because people actively advertise themselves as colorists, but nobody seems to "want" to be an assistant.

>> No.6546338

>>6546318
One of the assistants was one of the people they were looking at to hire as the main artist. The second assistant, I don't know. Thankfully hiring assistants isn't my responsibility.

>> No.6546340

>>6546318
How much are you paying and what kind of work do you want? There are lots of broke artists here who will take your money, and I'm one of them.

>> No.6546343

>>6546338
I see, that's the same system they have in Japan then. That's cool more publishers are adopting that practice. Thanks for advice man

>>6546340
I pay 0$ an hour :)

>> No.6546347

>>6546340
I think pay is something they're working out individually. I don't know much about what they assistant are making, and I'm not sure I'm allowed to share what I do know. If I was to hire another assistant, and right now I'm not, I'd be looking for someone to do simple toning. Very easy stuff. Think just filling in a characters hair + a couple of strokes for a highlight. Something that takes me maybe a minute each time, but adds up.

>>6546343
>I see, that's the same system they have in Japan then. That's cool more publishers are adopting that practice.
Is that how they do it in japan? I thought it was the main artist's responsibility to hire (and pay) assistants, not the publisher. I don't work for a publisher by the way, we're technically indie right now.

>> No.6546349

>>6546347
>I thought it was the main artist's responsibility to hire (and pay) assistants, not the publisher.
I think editors will introduce aspiring manga artists to an established magna artist, to work as assistants. The pay comes out of the artist's salary though

>we're technically indie right now.
To me, it always felt like indie comics was a wasteland with no market, so it's amazing you make enough to live. Goes to show how little I know about the industry. I wish there were a reliable way to learn more about the comic markets, and how to get published and sell. I feel like I know more about the Japanese manga market than the American comic market

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>still too /beg/ to draft my manga

>> No.6546686

>>6546423
I'm just starting as shitty as I am. I think I need to study all the different aspects that go into creating manga anyway.

>> No.6546733

How do I start learning how to make good painels and sequels?

>> No.6546754

>>6546423
The longer you postpone, the harder it will be to pick it up. In drawing and many other crafts, if something feels too hard to pull off, that's the more reason to try and practice.

>> No.6547135

>>6546280
>Indra's Net
Your work is awesome and I love spiders! One of the characters in my comic's finishing move is called Indra's Net. It is kismet.

>> No.6547329

>>6532205
>>6532254
>>6533182
Ok, I've posted the first chapter on my website :
>>6535170

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6547608

Not sure if anyone's posted about this already but I stumbled upon a Canadian artist serialized in Monthly Afternoon (think Houseki no Kuni, Blue Period, Skip to Loafer, Heavenly Delusion, etc). The manga doesn't have scans but looking at the artist's twitter it looks like they're not that good at Japanese so apparently it isn't all that impossible to get published as a foreigner in Japan. I remember seeing their work in some Medibang manga contest a few years ago and I assume that helped or even got them discovered by a big publisher in the first place.

>> No.6547852
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6547852

I'm going to start making dumb 2komas and 4komas instead of doing what I've just drawn right here in picrel.
Even if they suck it's progress right?

>> No.6547882

>>6547329
trippy comic, very retro website

>> No.6547896

>>6547608
link to their twitter? art looks good

>> No.6547909

>>6547852
The story isn't clear enough visually. It would be better to just draw the bear sleeping or something, idk. The way you have it, it could be interpreted as if he were building a video game or something

>> No.6547943

>>6547909
Thanks, maybe some text that just says "a fun video game" with an arrow pointing to the screen?
I think there's a poptepipic strip with the same premise that ends with popuko in bed, so if I made the bear sleeping it might be even less original than it already is...

>> No.6547993

>>6547943
No, that’s really lazy. Do your best to find a visual solution for it. Maybe he’s laying by an empty easel, dazed out of his mind. This is comics, not novel-writing.

Don’t worry about being slightly cliche, these are your practice comics

>> No.6548000

>>6547993
You make some great points. I wasn't going to linger on this one but now I feel like redrawing the second panel.

>> No.6548096

>>6547896
https://twitter.com/bomhat
Didn't have time to really go through their profile but there might be more info on how they landed the gig there.

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>>6540659
Somehow that describes all my relationships online for the past 15 years.

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>>6524223
Answering:
>How long have you been drawing manga?
13 years.
>Did you finish any projects?
No, only contest one-shots without any awards.
>What are you working on at the moment?
SMA19
>Why drawing manga instead of any other storytelling medium?
I think I have more control over all the work in general and now I have the time.
>What is your favourite manga?
Samidare and Bakuman.
>Who is your favorite manga artist?
Urasawa and Kazuhiro Fujita

This page was for a one-shot back in 2018.

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6549399

>>6547852
Marginal improvement, was funnier in my head.
Thank you to my editor, anonymous >>6547993, for making this possible

>> No.6550013

>>6532205
I'm interested, seal chan

>> No.6550035

>>6549173
Manda tua comic ai

>> No.6550040
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6550040

What does your pen look like?

>> No.6550043

>>6549399
Much better!

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>>6550040

>> No.6550242

>>6550222
What are the use cases for each pen? When do you switch?

>> No.6550248

>>6550242
Whenever I feel like it, basically. Main pen is obvious, that's the default. Brush pen I switch to when you would typically want to use a brush pen -- thick outlines, fills, hair... stuff you want brush strokes for, not pen strokes. Secondary brush 1 I bust when I want a mix of a pen and a brush pen; I can use it for the main line art and for the brush stuff without switching. Secondary 2 is when I want a flat brush for whatever reason.

>> No.6550359

>>6550043
Thanks dude

>> No.6551141

NEW THREAD: >>6551138
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