/dtg/ - Drawing Tablet General

[Anonymous No.6513704]

Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

>I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?
Fuck off retard. Ask a better question.

Recommended tablets:

>Intuos 3
Best screenless tablet. Look for one on Craigslist or Ebay.
>Intuos 4, 5 & Pro
Also good options. Will burn through your nibs.
>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Budget portable display tablet. Very solid drawing experience with Wacom EMR tech, but a small 10.4" display area.
>Used iPad Pro 2nd Gen 12.9"
Best option for a display tablet.
>Galaxy Tab S7+/S8+
Good premium alternative to an iPad Pro
>One by Wacom (not Wacom One)
Solid cheap option

AVOID:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand
Poor build quality, lackluster pens, broken tilt, struggles to register light pressure, horrible customer support and the displays are not calibrated. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are. Also watch out, Chinese companies shill HARD on /ic/; they do a lot of samefagging and frequently hurl personal insults.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
The N-Trig digitizer means you will always get wobbly lines.

>Lenovo
Bad drawing performance because they're not designed with art in mind.

>iPads (brand new) - Bad value
>iMacs and Macbooks - Never buy this garbage under any circumstance. It's a locked ecosystem with rubbish hardware you can't upgrade.

Previous: >>6494233

[Anonymous No.6513705]

>>6513704
Remember to avoid all Huion, XP-Pen and every other Chinese knock-off brand. They are terrible, but their shills are relentless.

[Anonymous No.6513791]

Is the Wacom One worth buying? I don't have the budget for the top tier Cintiqs which are just ridiciulously expensive, but I've had a tiny screenless tablet for two years and I'd like to upgrade to a screen tablet at this point.
Oh yeah and fuck you OP. Pretentious cunt. Why disparage that question and then not even include the Wacom One in the rest of your post where you give your brief thoughts on a bunch of other tablets. Perhaps less people would ask the question you apparently mald over if you did that, retard.

[Anonymous No.6513794]

>>6513791
get a used dtk-2200.

[Anonymous No.6513803]

>>6513794
Thanks I'll look into it more later but I just quickly googled and why is it 22 inches but so much less expensive than other cintiqs of that size? Lower resolution?

[Anonymous No.6513815]

>>6513803
It's an older model, "only" 2048 pressure levels (i think past that point is a meme desu)

[Anonymous No.6513825]

>>6513803
Buy a kamvas 22 plus if you want a better drawing experience than a decade old cintiq can provide

[Anonymous No.6513826]

>>6513791
How expensive is the One? Because the only reason to get a Wacom is their high end pen that comes with their cinteq plus or intuos pro series, their other pens are basically the same shit that they license out to other companies like you can use the same pen and it works on a Samsung Galaxy s tablet.
So I would recommend look at the Ones specs and compare it to huion/xp products the chances are high that you might get a better product for the same price

[Anonymous No.6513829]

>>6513826
I meant cinteq pro

[Anonymous No.6513831]

>>6513704
Professional anon here:
I have the cintiq 16 and I think it's basically all around the best tablet out there. Only downside is that it has no built in buttons.

It's a decent size, not too big, not too small, very portable if you want to shift stuff around. Screen resolution isn't super hd, but I don't think you need it. The screen is just small enough that you'll probably never get close enough to it to really notice the pixel density.

Furthermore, this is an underrated fact but it's extremely important. I think it's a really durable tablet. The cintiq 16 pro is nice and all, but it's way over priced and far less durable than the 16. The glass is very thin and the pixels are lamenated to the glass so just imagine drawing on your regular monitor with a wacom pen all day, yeah you're going to fuck up your monitor. that's what the 16 pro is like.

Lastly is the price. It's not cheap, but it's not overly expensive either if you plan on really using it.

Overall, if you want wacom's precision and you want a screen tablet. I think the 16 is all around the best for most artists.

[Anonymous No.6513834]

>>6513791
Refer to:>>6513831
I've been using it for years now. You do have to buy a separate stand, which is annoying, but it is a really good stand with lots of adjustability.
Currently I'm working from home on my 16, but at the office I used a 22 hd and I really don't notice a difference in color/contrast quality.

[Anonymous No.6513977]

>>6513704
I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?

[Anonymous No.6514003]

Wacom intuos Medium or Wacom Intuos Pro small?

I'm wondering if hardware differences between them are significant enough to justify purchasing the Pro, even with its considerably smaller active area.

[Anonymous No.6514075]

>>6513791
I really like it, but the lack of expression keys is a deal breaker. It is great if you can get it for 200$ tops 250$. I use it mainly for sketching and rough stuff and end everything on a screenless.

[Anonymous No.6514367]

I'm thinking from upgrading from my Cintiq 13hd since it's really small

Cant really buy a bigger Cintiq since it's 5-10x more expensive than the asian brands

What other alternatives are there to Huion Kamvas 22 Plus currenly?

[Anonymous No.6514855]

>>6513831
>The cintiq 16 pro is nice and all, but it's way over priced and far less durable than the 16
Yeah, but the classic Cintiq 16 isn't laminated, and that is very shitty once compared to more modern Kamvas or Xp-pen that came out during 2022.
Don't get me wrong, the Cintiq 16 Pro is obviously better than any of them, but the fact that wacom still sells a non laminated display just to have an excuse to overprice their laminated I've, when every other brand is treating it as the standard, really shows how anti consumer they can be.

[Anonymous No.6514858]

>>6514003
Intuos medium, the pro has clearly better specs, but size is one of the most important factors about any drawing tablet, above almost every other spec.

[Anonymous No.6514947]

I got an kamvas 16 plus cuz I had money to burn and holy shit it's so much better than a screenless tablet I always thought it's just a meme but nope it's such an upgrade

[Anonymous No.6514957]

>>6514367
I got the 16 version
I can only compare it to the intuos pro. But it's legit fantastic I didn't encounter anything that would be a nagative point. The lines are great and the stand is also fantastic and comes for free, would definitely recommend

[Anonymous No.6515022]

Does anyone know much about the 2021 Kamvas 16? There's a $200 coupon for it rn.
I was going to go for the Wacom One, but with $200 off I can get basically the same tablet but with 3 extra inches and as we all know sisters that makes all the difference.
I'm just wondering if the pen quality stacks up to Wacom's, how the screen feels to draw on etc etc.

Why does the OP and his first post say to avoid Huion? The Kamvas tablets are no good? Is the OP who makes these a Wacom shill or something

[Anonymous No.6515047]

>>6513791
>>6513826

I would say it's worth buying, it's mostly a slight water down version of a Cintiq 13hd without the pro pen features. It's design for ergonomic-use and an entry to graphic display tablets. The beauty of its feature is it's meant to be on-the-go, so you can plug it in to android devices and you can use the android drawing apps. There are deals on Wacom's eBay account they are selling refurbished ones if you want to take the chance.

[Anonymous No.6515049]

>>6515022
The only thing I know is that the 2019 models sucked ass so avoid them but everything past 2020 is great. Ignore Op he is our resident schizo he is convinced that chinese agents are shilling huion and xp products

[Anonymous No.6515071]

>>6515047
Is the one laminated?

[Anonymous No.6515168]

>>6515071
Yeah, I think the only non laminated tablets from Wacom right now are the non-pro cintiqs.

[Anonymous No.6515314]

>was at Best Buy, about to get a Wacom One as a gift for my birthday
>decided to check the general
>saw that warning in the OP, decided to back down and hold it off
Thanks for warning me frens.
Okay I still have about 300 bucks of gift to fiddle with and what I can contribute, are the ‘Ipad Pro 12 9 2nd gen’ search results at mid 300s trustworthy? Or am I supposed to buy this thing somewhere else? What stylus should I get with it? .

[Anonymous No.6515317]

>>6515022
The first generation of Huion and XP-Pen pen displays were terrible, with lots of fish-hooking, wobble and inconsistent pressure problems, from from their second gen onwards they got better than Wacom.

[Anonymous No.6515374]

>>6515314
What warning in the OP? There is no warning against buying a Wacom One in the OP.

[Anonymous No.6515398]

>>6515049
>t.

[Anonymous No.6515646]

>>6515314
If you're planning to get an iPad, never use any other pen that is not their official $130 pen. With that model, you gotta get the 1st gen Apple Pencil.

[Anonymous No.6515652]

>>6515374
>>I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?
>Fuck off retard. Ask a better question

In 4chan a phrase like that implies that the tablet is a pop-tech overshilled piece of junk.

[Anonymous No.6515657]

>>6515652
That's your interpretation. It could also imply that the question has been asked a million times and instead of having to go back and forth as you ask for additional info consequently spamming the thread, it's a better idea to just make sure people formulate their questions better by including more contextual info so we can help you make a decision.

[Anonymous No.6515663]

I'm thinking of buying the Wacom one, or should I wait for wacom two?

[Anonymous No.6515879]

>>6515398

The wacom schizo posting webms of himself

[Anonymous No.6516030]

>>6513791
Buy used
There are tons of good deals for Cintiqs

[Anonymous No.6516198]

I know you can use nylon weed eater line for replacement nylon nibs for the wacom intuos 3, but what about the hard felt nibs? Any cheap source of those?

[Anonymous No.6516202]

>>6513704
>>I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?
>Fuck off retard. Ask a better question.
Why is this a bad question?

[Anonymous No.6516640]

Does anyone here have any experience with the RTP-700? I'm a hobby artfag using a hs64, which works really well but I'm looking for a larger tablet what won't be a huge investment.

[Anonymous No.6516692]

huion kamvas 16 laptop tablet
>1440p screen
>100% Adobe RGB
>full lamination with anti-glare etched glass
>Intel Core i7-1165G7 processor
>Intel Iris Xe gpu
>16GB ram
>512GB ssd
>Windows 11
>pen tech 3.0+
>usb-c ports
>58Wh battery (6 hours of continuous usage)
>wifi 6
>fingerprint power button
no price yet

[Anonymous No.6516805]

>>6514855
I genuinely cannot fathom why people get in a tisy over slight paralax. It's absolutely baffling to me. I even explicitly calibrate my pen so the cursor is slightly offset so I can better see what I'm doing. I've convinced a few of my coworkers to do the same and they haven't gone back. I'd recommend you try it too, you'd be surprised how little parallax really matters.

But anyway, the main point I brought up about the laminated display is that it's extremely easy to damage the pixels with such thin glass. Even just your light palm pressure on the screen is enough to damage it over time. The cintiq 22pro doesn't have this issue because the glass is thicker.

[Anonymous No.6516807]

>>6514957
Make sure to increase pen pressure sensitivity, from my own personal experience and my friends (and in general critiq of the 16pro) the screen will get damaged within a year of steady use if you apply too much pen pressure.

[Anonymous No.6517015]

>>6516692
don't care chang

[Anonymous No.6517018]

>>6516692
Holy shit
If this is at or under 1k I'm getting one and selling my iPad. No question.

[Anonymous No.6517045]

>>6516692
lmao its over for crapple and samshit

[Anonymous No.6517048]

>>6516692
this looks really good depending on the price

[Anonymous No.6517055]

>>6516692
huion kanvas 24
>2.5k resolution
>99% sRGB
>Intel Core i7-12700F
>NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1650
>32gb ram
>1tb ssd
>bigger battery

[Anonymous No.6517094]

I already have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, and I love it! I've had this tablet since its original launch. Pic related, it's an illustration from my first book using said tablet.

Are there any Chromebooks with similar specs with good pen sensitivity? I have a Samsung Chromebook Plus that I bought from a pawn shop a few years back, but the OS will no longer be updated by August of this year.

Also, which Android drawing apps y'all use? I enjoy Sketchbook (which was formerly owned by AutoDesk).

Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6517659]

>>6516202

The OP is a fucknut obsessed with old wacoms. He doesn't even use them.

[Anonymous No.6517942]

>>6516692
If we finally get a real alternative to apple I'm all in depending on the price of course

[Anonymous No.6518123]

found a intuos 3 ptz930 to buy, is it really one of the best screenless tablet or is just a crab meme?

[Anonymous No.6518136]

>>6518123
it's the only tablet that schizOP has used 10 years ago before he gave up drawing

[Anonymous No.6518150]

>>6518123
Get a modern tablet why would you want 20 year old shit? I don't want to imagine how much of a nightmare it is to deal with the driver for the intuos 3

[Anonymous No.6518157]

>>6518150
>I don't want to imagine how much of a nightmare it is to deal with the driver for the intuos 3
works perfectly on windows 10 latest update, Imagination is not your strong point

[Anonymous No.6518160]

>>6517055
>it doesnt have hot swappable batteries
I swear electronic companies these days, I would understand wacom, but a shit company that needs to create better products like huion is just moronic, no wonder their products are just cheap knockoffs

[Anonymous No.6518187]

>>6518160
>>6518157
wacumguzzler strikes again

[Anonymous No.6518228]

my gf is insisting I buy her an iPad. yes I know: don't buy a brand new one.

what's a decent older model for someone who just does some light drawing and painting a few times a week? I've seen some drawfags on YT say the 2020 models are pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6518517]

>>6518157
The point is why would you go out of your way to buy old hardware? There are like a million products out there that are better and more convenient than some old ass tablet from 2003

[Anonymous No.6518659]

>>6513705

How do we know these aren't software related problems?

[Anonymous No.6518677]

>>6518659
just ignore it, you can literally see his hand shaking

[Anonymous No.6518689]

how often do i replace my pen nib? also are there any guide videos that can show me how?
im using an xp pen artist 12 2nd gen

[Anonymous No.6518693]

>>6518689
>how often do i replace my pen nib?
Depends on your gorilla grip.
It'd say every 4 months.

[Anonymous No.6518697]

>>6518228
literally any ipad pro will be sufficient. the first gen (2016) is still more than capable of running procreate.
I'd go with a 3rd gen personally though for the usb c, apple pencil 2, ease of finding accessories (screen protector specifically), and reduced bezel size.

[Anonymous No.6518963]

>>6513705
Tested all of this
>Pressure
No problems there, tried my best to replicate it.
>Broken tilt
Seems to be a 50/50 problem. Tried it like in the video and I just got clean Cs, but I tried it in the opposite direction (down from up) and I managed to replicate it very consistently. So that one seems to be true, but I find it weird that it only happened from up down curves, but not down up curves.
Also, it only happens once. Meaning that if you do a double curve, one after another without lifting the pencil up, you'll only get one error.
Weird indeed.
>Cursor strays
Hasn't happened to me yet, then again I just use a screen-less one.

All in all, I paid 50ish dollars (12k in my local currency) and I got a pretty okay product. If you can get better, go for it, but if you're struggling with money or simply can't find the tablet you want. I'd say give XP a shot to get the hang of things and then replace it with something that better fits your needs.

[Anonymous No.6519012]

Cintiq 16 or Intuos M Pro? Been using a tiny intuos draw for now which is pretty worn and I want something nicer.

[Anonymous No.6519055]

>>6519012
>Cintiq 16 or Intuos M Pro?
Cintiq, the non lamination isn't good, but at least you're working on a screen.

[Anonymous No.6519127]

>>6519012
Definitely go with a screen tablet
It's so much better mpxe4m

[Anonymous No.6519150]

>draw
>art sucks
>decrease brush size
>art imrpoves
Huh

[Anonymous No.6519155]

>>6513705
>Remember to avoid all Huion
Now you're telling me

[Anonymous No.6519259]

>>6519155
I got an huion kamvas recently and it is fantastic, I never get the hate some people have for it

[Anonymous No.6519339]

>>6518697
People here sell ipads with like a 100 dollar less than brand new. Fuck.
>>6519150
This migh sound really stupid but i actually improved when I started holding the pen lighter.

[Anonymous No.6519582]

>>6519055
>>6519012
Non lamination is fine, it barely makes a difference.

[Anonymous No.6519793]

Can you turn off wireless feature on the new intuos pro and connect it to you computer

[Anonymous No.6519851]

>>6513704
Remember wacom does not last longer then 1 year

[Anonymous No.6519892]

Are screen protectors for tablets with screens needed much or is it just a waste of money?

[Anonymous No.6520025]

>>6519892
For my Samsung Tab S6 Lite, I noticed no difference between having a screen protector on versus off. I cannot speak for other brands.

I am happy I did put a screen protector on, as just the protector cracked from the rumble of my book bag less than a week ago.

[Anonymous No.6520160]

>>6517094
>>6520025
I'm back.

I take back what I said earlier, ...kinda. I really don't care which brand or operating system I have for my next tablet and/or touch-screen laptop, I just need something with good pen sensitivity. I'll even use a Linux OS distro if I have to. I'd like the screen to be bookbag-friendly & be 17 inches or smaller.

I am working on my 2nd illustrated poem book. This book is different since I am keeping the rhymes cleaner, and getting more inspiration from MF DOOM and Shel Silverstein rather than airing out my "R-rated" world grievances from my first book.

For my first book, the illustrations were less detail-oriented being 101 poems with 101 inanimate objects brought to life through my words. For my first book, it didn't really matter how extreme the specs were for the tools I was using because my illustrations didn't need as much detail.

My second book does have more detail because each poem has an animal in representation of my words (pic related). These animals have more details like scales and fur that my first book did not.

I've decided I am going to be patient with this. Although I have the money now to afford some sorta 8000+ pressure sensitivity tablet/laptop, I think I may stick with my low-end Samsung Tab S6-Lite to finish off my second book. I have about 10 illustrations already made up for my second book. I don't want there to be inconsistencies with having a better tablet for my second book.

>>6516692
This looks very promising. I'll let the ambitious here be my Guinea pig before making the plunge to splurge on this seemingly fine Huion laptop/tablet.

I've had some Wacom products in the past, but I feel they are 30% overpriced.

I may even get an Apple iPad. There's are Apple and Best Buy stores in the town I reside. I suspect exchanges or warranties would be much easier to handle there vs. the Huion route.

I haven't owned an Apple product since the iPod Touch days, but maybe I should get back into their groove?

[Anonymous No.6520590]

I just got a Tab A6 Lite 2022
It's alright.
What are the FREE drawing soft for it? AD Sketchbook is alright but I wonder about alternatives. Krita fags need not reply.

[Anonymous No.6520627]

>>6520160
If I was you as in working on illustrations as opposed to just hobby artist I would definitely invest on a bigger tablet a 13 inch at min.

[Anonymous No.6520642]

>>6513705
They're good, but basically brand new second hand tablets seem to get put up for sale by art students all of the time, either because they're not interested or they're upgrading.

So, between $150 for a basically new new kamvas 13, or $200 for basically new cintiq, you're better off with the cintiq. With actually new tablets, I think it's wasting your money and maybe some people have it in their head that even if the slightly second hand premium tablet is in mint condition, a month or two of pristine use time is somehow worth 500 extra dollars for an technically inferior product with a worse screen or worse sensitivity.

Like, I bought a new kamvas last year, and then later returned it and got a second hand cintiq in great condition. The screens were more or less the same, the sensitivity was the same, but the huion pen was kind of bad, and there no option to change it or even the nibs for something nicer. Like a goddamn ice rink. $200 for something I avoided using vs $300 I use whenever I have even a little excuse to. But do you need to pay wacom $1000 for a brand new one? No, no way, don't be retarded. Save that $700, get yourself a bunch of other nice things, too.

[Anonymous No.6520643]

>>6520025
Thanks for the info. I also did a bit of looking around and it seems mostly useless, at least for tablets that you don't constantly carry around.

[Anonymous No.6520764]

>>6520627
You're right. I can be a cheap bastard.
As soon as I buy the tablet of my dreams, I will be like "Why didn't I do this earlier?"

I'm waiting on this >>6516692

But, I will probably end up with a Wacom or Apple iPad. Wacom seems really expensive, so I may buy secondhand off eBay.

In terms of consistency for my second book, I may use what I got and splurge after finishing those illustrations to celebrate as a reward. I have quite a few illustrations made up for my book, and I don't want the quality to flux.

[Anonymous No.6520778]

huion studio 16&24 prices

[Anonymous No.6520846]

>>6520778
Does anybody know if these will be sold at any retailers or will they be sold exclusively through their site?

The price and specs feel right for that 16 incher for my lifestyle.

I'd prefer buying at a retailer so I can get warranties and the like because shit happens, especially on the move.

Is Huion good at repairs or honoring any warranties? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.6520878]

>>6520778
Huion Studio 16, $1699

[Anonymous No.6520883]

>>6520878

[Anonymous No.6520888]

>>6520883
It also lacks to mention that it has 2 USBC port, this is more to be taken as a super drawing tablet that can run windows, than a drawing all in one.

[Anonymous No.6520893]

>>6520778
Huion Studio 24
$2400

[Anonymous No.6520895]

>>6520893

[Anonymous No.6520896]

>>6520895

[Anonymous No.6520901]

>>6520896
It also has another 2 USB ports on the side. If you click on the buy page, the content of the image shows the package to include mouse and keyboard, you can add a free key dial, and it comes with BOTH of the new Huion Pens, the normal one and the slim one.

[Anonymous No.6520906]

>>6520901
yeap it would have been a powerhouse with swappable batteries, which isn't the main goal of a mobile station?

[Anonymous No.6520915]

>>6520906
I think it just the name branding legacy, desu, this thing weights 8kg, or 17.6lb and has 24", so it's definitely more of a all in one pc.
Having said that, Wacom doesn't have officially swappable batteries, yet you can change it relatively easy.
So probably when they start to ship them we can see if it's any easier with the Huion.
Talking about Wacom, they're doing a sale on their mobile studios.
The Mobile studio 13 from $2600 to $2000
The Mobile Studio 16 from $3500 to $2500
I would post the specs, but their specs sheet is a mess.

[Anonymous No.6520953]

>>6520590
GIMP, Medibang Paint, FireAlpaca, MyPaint, Inkscape, Artweaver

[Anonymous No.6521074]

>>6519055
>>6519127
>>6519582
Ended up grabbing the Cintiq, will see how it goes. Thanks anons.
Any tips for new tablet users? Things to bear in mind that are different from taking care of other things with screens?

[Anonymous No.6521115]

>>6514855
i'm using the kamvas pro 16 for more than two years i think, yeah, and yes the laminated screen is a deal breaker. I work almost daily and to this day the screen has zero marks, lines, scratches. I was planning to buy a new one once the screen die but the screen is still like new, so is not gonna happen,
My really honest opinion about the screen tablets for any anon looking for one, is just look for the laminated ones, or look for the etched glass displays, you dont need more and all the rest is minor details like the extra buttons, the resolution of the screen, and the plug options. All the rest is almost irrelevant at this point, at least for any mid tier screentablet that have been out for 4-5 years (from wacom and huion)

[Anonymous No.6521153]

>>6521074
hmm, remember that you can buy new nibs separately, if you are expecting to have that tablet for several years, maybe buying at least on pack should be healty for you, just in case that you actually use it several years so you can have new nibs for the future already saved. Maybe.
You check that the cables are not too bent in your setup, just to prevent any posibility of the cables having conection issues.
I dont think that the your screen will had scratches any soon for several years, but i dont know that wacom model, so if that start to happen in the future, consider buy a screen protector and you are good to continue, they offer the pape like texture, or just can buy some generic one with the plastic feeling, also some people like it that way because is more smooth and fast, so you can buy
according to your preference.
Use the glove it reduces friction. You can buy cheap ones in any online place also, the brand is not important.
Screen can get hot in one side, so consider that, if you are in a hot place or your heat season is really intense then that can be
annoying, use some fan or something to cool your arm.

[Anonymous No.6521203]

Some guy is selling a secon hand Wacom Cintiq 22 HD for 750$ and claims he paid 1750$ for it new. Sould i splurge?

[Anonymous No.6521250]

>>6521203
Who gives a shit how much he paid for it. It's 400 max in 2022. You're dealing with a child

[Anonymous No.6521499]

anyone get a hold of that new huion pen 3+? wonder if it's any good

[Anonymous No.6521742]

I just recently broke my Kamvas 13, nothing of the device itself just me being clumsy. I personally have no complaint regarding the thing, there's slight parallax and I have to calibrate once in a while but it's honestly nothing. That being said, I feel like a moron if I bought another one of the same model. Anyone has reccs for alternatives in similar price range?

[Anonymous No.6521790]

>>6521742
Was it an old model?
If you can afford it, try to jump to the newer model or a 16" version, I've noticed that Huion prices they're new stuff at the same price as the old stuff at release.

[Anonymous No.6521815]

>>6521790
Not particularly old, it's about 2 years old. The 16" variant at the same price sounds like a good deal, but I think I'm actually more comfortable with the 13" dimensions. Do you have any experience with other brands' model within more or less the same spec? Thanks for the response anon.

[Anonymous No.6521844]

>>6521115
This nigga is spittin

[Anonymous No.6521846]

>>6521203
Just get a kamvas plus 22 for 500 bucks
It's a big ass tablet with zero paralex

[Anonymous No.6521847]

>>6521499
Wait is the new pen compatible with the old shit?

[Anonymous No.6521849]

>>6521742
Xp pen has the cheapest "good" screentablets

[Anonymous No.6521951]

>>6521847
Yeah supposedly

[Anonymous No.6521997]

>>6520778
Whelp, the $1k dream died pretty fast. I understand why they're so much, but I still won't be getting one unless I can find one used. Ol reliable 22 plus for $400 stays winning for niw

[Anonymous No.6522000]

>>6520778
With that price for the Studio 16 you're better off with a Surface Laptop Studio kek.
Speaking of which, I'm getting a raise. Thinking of replacing my current tablet either with the XP-Pen 16 2nd Gen, or to get the Surface Pro 8/9 as a companion portable drawing tablet instead.

[Anonymous No.6522011]

>>6522000
>you're better off with a Surface Laptop Studio kek.
...how?

[Anonymous No.6522034]

>>6522011
You can fold the screen all the way down to turn it into a fully tablet balbeit a bit chunky. Essentially a laptop plus a drawing tablet in one. Google artist's review for the Surface Studio to see how they fare as an all-in-one drawing tablet device plus a workstation. The screen size is also enough for me to do CAD and other wagie excel sheet if I'm not drawing coomer on it. I've been thinking of either this or SP8, but I wonder if I'll hate staring at 13" all day long doing drafting CAD works.

[Anonymous No.6522047]

>>6522034
So for about the same price you'll get:
>a smaller screen
>worse color gamut
>worse cpu
>less storage
>non etched glass screen
>worse pen
>a chunky tablet
BUT it's not all bad, since you also get:
>a built in keyboard

Am I understanding this right?
Unless something'a changed with surface devices I don't know about, the ntrig (or whatever Microsoft rebranded name was) digitizer sucks, and the screen is just a slick piece of glass so drawing feels bad.

[Anonymous No.6522058]

>>6522047
You're missing out the not having to carry a second device as the tablet/laptop companion or keyboard peripherals. Look, I already have a permanent workstation for drawing at my own home office. A portable workstation that doubles as a drawing tablet is an appealing idea to me. All the pros you listed literally meant nothing to me kek as my main drawing tablet has already taken care of that.

[Anonymous No.6522065]

>>6522058
so yes, the only pro is the attached keyboard, while literally everything else about it is worse in every way.
the whole idea is that it's a standalone portable drawing tablet. The fact that the tablet at home does the same things as it is pretty meaningless, since it's, y'know, at home.

[Anonymous No.6522070]

I've been using my cintiq 16 for about 3 years now and haven't replaced the nib. I draw very lightly and haven't noticed any issues yet. What's a good indicator for when it needs replaced?

[Anonymous No.6522093]

>>6517018
>It's 2.3k
kek

[Anonymous No.6522102]

>>6522093
the 24" is $2400
the 16" is $1700
Not getting either unless someone sells one refurbished or used for sub 1k

[Anonymous No.6522174]

>>6522102
2.3K in the EU, I have no idea how they're expecting to sell any units with prices like that. It is cheaper for me to fucking fly to the US and buy it there.

[Anonymous No.6522202]

whats the consensus on the intuos pro line?

[Anonymous No.6522287]

>>6522202
Cheaper last longer good for neck and back

[Anonymous No.6522294]

>>6521951
Is the pen already out?

[Anonymous No.6522297]

>>6522202
Fantastic for beginners to mid artists
I do think tho that the line quality is much better on a screen tablet, not because of a hardware issue or something like that but rather the drawing like on paper experience gives you much more control over your lines, at least it was the case for me

[Anonymous No.6522300]

>>6522287
how does it compare to an intuos 3? wanted to get one of those at first but the sensitive parts aspect ratio not being 16:9 made me want to reconsider and get an intuos pro instead. I am currently using a huion h1060p and I really like the size, but the pen and drawing itself feels really bid. Still though, I do not want to sacrifice the size

[Anonymous No.6522306]

>>6522300
>Intuos 3
Who ever started this meme is truly evil

[Anonymous No.6522405]

>>6522174
>I have no idea how they're expecting to sell any units with prices like that.
Because this >>6520915
Is the competition.

[Anonymous No.6522536]

>>6522297
screened tablets are way too expensive for me, though they would help me for the times my hand eye coordination fucks up, Still though, I prefer it when my hand doesnt cover a part of the drawing

[Anonymous No.6522540]

>>6522306
are they not actually good? I was initially sceptical but looking more at it online I read about how artists like junji ito and one of the designers at atlus used one (but its not like there is a list of what specific hardware most artists uses)

[Anonymous No.6522592]

>>6522294
Looks like it

[Anonymous No.6522643]

>>6522405
ipads is the main competition for any portable drawing tablet.
and $1699 is way too much

[Anonymous No.6522659]

>>6522643
>ipads is the main competition for any portable drawing tablet.
no it's not. this is a laptop with an extremely good drawing screen. it's competition is other windows laptops. the surface pro someone mentioned earlier is more its competition than ipads are, and they're about the same price, except the huion has much better specs.

[Anonymous No.6522686]

>>6522592
is there any reason I would want this pen over the one that shipped with my 22 plus? I don't see how the pen could be made noticeably better.

[Anonymous No.6522770]

>>6522540
Nigga it's a 20 year old tablet, obviously it's not up to standards anymore
Get something new for god's sake

[Anonymous No.6522776]

>>6522659
>Labtop with a drawing screen
Aren't they always trash? Like all the Microsoft ones are awful and that's one of the "best" on the market or at least not even close to the drawing experience you have with an ipad

[Anonymous No.6522904]

>>6522776
The only good windows standalone drawing tablet is the wacom mobile studio that will run you 4000 fucking dollars.
That's why huion releasing one is huge. Everything indicates it will have the same drawing feel as any of their other displays, just as an all in one, and at a reasonably affordable price for someone wanting a good portable workstation.

[Anonymous No.6523135]

>>6521153
Thanks a lot anon, just arrived today so I think I'll get a protector. Now we just gotta grind.

[Anonymous No.6523149]

>>6522904
Cool. Cant wait for XP-Pen to roll out their own mobile studio too to counter that. I like (and hate) how the XP-Pen 2nd gens are all much cheaper than their older Pro and Innovator series yet have much better pens and could work with Android devices.

[Anonymous No.6523208]

>>6520778
Just get a fucking used Wacom holy shit, you can get an amazing Cintiq 20+ at less than 1K, why would you even need more?

[Anonymous No.6523210]

>>6522070
Just get a new pair and compare both rubbing the tip to your fingertip, you will see.

[Anonymous No.6523221]

>>6522405
Both of which I can get refurbished for much cheaper. Or one of the new Surface Pros with new updated digitizers. Or just a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra. 2.3K in Europe is insane for the brand whose whole schtick is affordability. And on top of that, not even the price itself, but the DIFFERENCE in prices between US and EU, even with the import taxes. Again, I can go to the US, buy that thing, have a vacation for several days - and still pay less than buying this thing in the EU.

[Anonymous No.6523225]

>>6522540
It's a good tablet but there's no reason to get one over anything modern. Screenless tablets haven't changed at all since the intuos 3.

[Anonymous No.6523658]

After a week of using my nu kamvae my verdict is that it was 100% worth it's money.

[Anonymous No.6524013]

>>6522686
don't know, they have a thin one which I definitely like, but I assume they tweaked pressure sensitivity etc.

[Anonymous No.6524035]

>>6523208
It's funny how desperate you are to shill wacum

[Anonymous No.6524051]

>>6523208
I am not going to give my hard earned money to jewniggers

[Anonymous No.6524073]

>>6524051
Every business is jewniggers.

[Anonymous No.6524090]

>>6519259
>I got an huion kamvas recently and it is fantastic, I never get the hate some people have for it

[Anonymous No.6524111]

>>6524073
But Wacom is even more jewniggers.

[Anonymous No.6524373]

>>6523221
Holy shit how much does it cost in Europe? That sounds insane

[Anonymous No.6524563]

How do I pinch zoom on an iPad? Serious question. I've had mine for months now and was expecting to figure it out eventually. But still almost every time I try to pinch zoom in Procreate it registers as a single touch first and only zooms on the second attempt

[Anonymous No.6524625]

I love my Microsoft® Surface© Pro™ and it's wonderful Microsoft® PixelSense™ display

[Anonymous No.6524749]

>>6524373
2300 Euros, which is almost 2500 bucks with today's exchange rate.

[Anonymous No.6525240]

>>6524090

[Anonymous No.6525269]

>>6523208
I got an amazing huion kamvas 13 for 250$...i'm not willing to spend 1k on a graphic tablet, when i can buy one for the price of a smartphone
it's amazing how some people think Wacom is superior still on the market, this isn't 2015, wake the fuck up, there are cheaper alternatives that are equally as good

[Anonymous No.6525387]

Is ipad mini worth buying?

[Anonymous No.6525457]

anons how did you swap to digital? Is it really just a matter of getting use to it? just got my first tablet and its like learning to draw again and I can't stand it

[Anonymous No.6525498]

Does anyone here have experience with Gaomon Pen-Display devices?
I'm very interesting in bought a Gaomon PD1610 2.K.

By the way; my current tablet is a Kamvas 13 2020. No problems or issues after a year os usage.

[Anonymous No.6526418]

>>6525457
Are you using a display tablet or normal pen tablet?

[Anonymous No.6526429]

Anyone having issues with wacom drivers on linux? I'm running Fedora but I need to unplug/plug it in every few hours because clicking just stops registering.

[Anonymous No.6526448]

>>6526418
just a pen tablet

[Anonymous No.6526454]

>>6526429
only clicking or the cursor tracking too?
do the express keys register?
whats the output of xsetwacom --list devices when this happens?

[Anonymous No.6526487]

>>6526454
Only clicking. Express keys also work. I'll try out that command the next time it happens.

To explain a bit more, I replaced my old intuous with a newer model for unrelated reasons. The old model had the same issue but less often. However, after about 5 unplugs it would crash the entire system and I would need to reboot. The new intuous bugs out a lot more frequently but it never crashes the system. I noticed that when I did the upgrade, the driver updated to a version number that was smaller. I can't remember what the numbers were, though.

[Anonymous No.6526498]

>>6513705

>Remember to avoid

3 years in with XP pen without a problem.

[Anonymous No.6526511]

>>6526498
Ok Chang.

[Anonymous No.6526513]

>>6526487
this smells like Xorg issue. I have a problem that when I plug my wacom it spikes my cpu for like 15 seconds. this is probably beyond my current knowledge, try asking at stackoverflow or linuxquestions.org with logs

[Anonymous No.6526541]

>>6526511
Why are you like this?

[Anonymous No.6526549]

>>6526487
Also check dmesg when it happens, could have something useful.

[Anonymous No.6526558]

>>6526511
>Ok Chang.
Wacom is made in asia too

[Anonymous No.6526559]

>>6526558
>asia
Ok? Asia is not China, Chang.

There's also a difference between manufacturing and design. This fact has been repeated ad nauseum and chinese retards here still refuse to accept it. Wacom is a company with design standards, Chinese knock-off companies like Huion and XP-Pen do not.

[Anonymous No.6526573]

>>6526559
>Wacom superior. anything other than wacom is shit. glory to wacom. if you dare to use anything else you are shite. now shoo, go and spend 5000$ on cintiq.
I know what you are

[Anonymous No.6526577]

Not sure why chinese idiots keep running strawman arguments like this: >>6526573

Assuming it's the same retard crying about the "OP", both Apple and Samsung are recommended there too.

[Anonymous No.6526612]

>>6526559
How much does Wacom CEO pay you too suck his cock anon?
Do you get more if you swallow?

[Anonymous No.6526615]

>>6526577
How about artists like luluchan92 and Paloma Piquet they don't use Wacom

[Anonymous No.6526803]

I'm thinking of buying the Wacom One, should I get it?

[Anonymous No.6526828]

>>6526803
Read the fucking post fucktard

[Anonymous No.6526829]

>>6526448
That's why you're struggling.
Display tablets have next to no learning curve. Pen tablets have a steep curve, which you'll eventually get over and be back to drawing about the same as you were before.

[Anonymous No.6526835]

>>6525457
When I first started, and sometimes now, I would do my rough sketch on paper with pencil or pen. Then, I'd take a photo of this unfinished piece, and finish the details on my tablet.

I have done this less as time has progressed because I have felt more familiar with my tablets. But, for more complicated pieces, I still ink over my rough analog sketches.

I do believe drawing on tablets does require to be familiar with the feel. Some tablets have different nibs you can use to give a more dragging sensation of how a real pen with ink would feel letting out its ink while being dragged. Those said nibs aren't as common for my tablets as time has gone on for me. I don't know about these nibs anymore because I haven't needed one of these "dragging nibs" in over 10 years.

Don't give up, and don't beat yourself up either. You'll get the feel if you keep attempting to draw on your tablet because I had the same issue when I first began drawing digital too. It took me a few hours of practice to get the results I desired. At least with digital, there's an "undo" button.

[Anonymous No.6526838]

>>6526828
what post

[Anonymous No.6527001]

>>6526829
how long did it take you to get use of anon? on paper I can draw mindlessly as I almost always will now draw the line I want but on tablet its like I went full retard or something

[Anonymous No.6527009]

>>6526835
oops my bad just noticed I missed your reply. You answered my question here >>6527001 so other anon don't need to. Thank you for all the info I'm gonna screen shot your reply for encouragement

[Anonymous No.6527084]

How's the Wacom One? I'm thinking of getting one for my birthday

[Anonymous No.6527303]

>>6526803
If you're a little /beg/ than I say go for it its a good beginners device

[Anonymous No.6527306]

>>6527084
It's cheap and better than a pentablet

[Anonymous No.6527662]

Is getting an Intuos Pro L an upgrade from a Huion Kamvas 13? My screen tablet is killing my back, and I only use it for line work. I turn off the screen when I need to paint. Got myself an S7 FE recently and was thinking of sketching on it and painting on the Intuos later.

[Anonymous No.6527812]

I have an XP-Pen Artist 12, worked fine yesterday, today windows couldn't detect the display device. Pen and buttons work, the display works enough to show me there is no signal. Updated drivers, updated windows, now I'm kinda out of options.

[Anonymous No.6527826]

all this talk about tech whens the last time you actually drew, anon?

[Anonymous No.6527834]

>>6527812
Fixed my issue, ctrl+shift+windows key+ B did the trick. Fucking wonky nonsense.

>>6527826
Yesterday, gonna continue after gym today.

[Anonymous No.6527847]

>>6526559
>There's also a difference between manufacturing and design. This fact has been repeated ad nauseum and chinese retards here still refuse to accept it. Wacom is a company with design standards
>Xp-pen started as a Japanese company.
>Xencelabs was founded by Wacom designers because they wouldn't let them experiment.
>Artisul is American-Taiwanese (where the best, and 98% of the CPUs in the world come from) and it's worse than any of the Chinese companies.
>Samsung pens are designed by Wacom and are considered inferior than American Apple Pencils.
Jesus Christ, you ignorant fuck.
The only reason why Wacom built quality is better is because they pay the manufacturers more to ensure the quality, if they didn't all their design would be worth shit.
Never forget pic related

[Anonymous No.6527853]

I have a cheap one by wacom and it has served me well but after a few years I want to upgrade to something better
any suggestions for a 300 euros budget
Is it even possible to get something with screen at this price?

[Anonymous No.6527855]

Need a screenless tablet $200-$300ish, good for line work. Is xencelabs good?

[Anonymous No.6527857]

>>6527847
And the more money do established brands like the ones from the Havon-Ugee group (XP-Pen, Huion, Xencelabs) out Huion get, the better they can ensure their built quality to be.
Conversely, probably Wacom it's so expensive in comparison because the Chinese fucks have no problem charging a Japanese company over 100% the price to built as instructed, meanwhile the Chinese brands know which are the good companies to make your products for you and not get scammed.

[Anonymous No.6527870]

>>6527857
>And the more money do established brands like the ones from the Havon-Ugee group (XP-Pen, Huion, Xencelabs) out Huion get, the better they can ensure their built quality to be.
what a clueless fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6527887]

>>6522686
would be nice if the new pen is upgrading the drawing performance so you don't have to get a new one every 2 years but still can enjoy a tablet that keeps up with newer ones

[Anonymous No.6527890]

>>6527855
Get a refurbished Intuos pro it's around that price range and is legit the best pen tablet out there

[Anonymous No.6527907]

>>6522000
Don't buy a Surface Pro if you care about pen accuracy or if you want to make decent lineart.

[Anonymous No.6527909]

>>6527855
I got a xencelabs as a gift to replace my old huion. I can honestly say it's very very good, came with a stylus case with a bunch of nibs, 2 kinds of stylus and a glove. Very high quality tablet with good pressure levels and has a switch you can toggle that lets you use it wirelessly if you want. very sturdy build. I'm not a shill im just genuinely very pleased with it. best tablet i've ever had.

only complain i could be forced to have is that the nib wears out a little fast but i'm heavy handed and there are backups, even nibs with different textures so you can feel like you're drawing on paper without taping butchers paper to your tablet

I have a 4k monitor and i believe the tablet is 12x9" (13x10?) model.

[Anonymous No.6527914]

>>6527909
>shill
only the wacom schizo actually believes that there are Chinese shills in a thread that has like 5 people in it

[Anonymous No.6527915]

>>6527909
Can you use it plugged in or only bluetooth? My pc doesn't have a bluetooth adapter.
Thank you for the info.

[Anonymous No.6527916]

>>6527909
isn't the difference between screen size and tablet size daunting, when you draw? I mean a minimum of movement makes the cursor run across the screen.

[Anonymous No.6527918]

>>6527915
you can always get a bluetooth usb dongle.

[Anonymous No.6527920]

>>6527916
honestly, as someone who worked with a lot of wacom tablets (all in the size L), I prefer a medium-sized tablet, for some reason, it just feels awkward to use a really big one. It's just not like when you use a graphic tablet where drawing with big gestures feels very natural

[Anonymous No.6527921]

>>6527914
i just don't usually endorse products without trying to give a clear picture of the potential downsides. I don't really like the placement of the connection cable but as long as you dont toss it around it shouldnt get bent.
Even my old Huion was good enough but at one point i had to open the pen and solder some wires that were loose, this xencelabs is very well built and a little heavy so i like it. There arent a ton of shills here compared to boards like /v/ but you get some for Krita and art Youtubers.

Here let me "shill" a nice brush I made for CSP, hope some of you like it
https://files.catbox.moe/hn8mew.sut

[Anonymous No.6527926]

>>6527921
nice

[Anonymous No.6527927]

>>6527916
the xencelabs software comes with a bunch of settings for the surface capture, so you can have the tablet cover your entire screen or just a smaller section to mimic a smaller resolution. Honestly swapping to a 4k monitor size is daunting when it comes to everything, gaming too. Once you get used to it though it becomes normal and its really nice to have the extra space. I can have my drawing programs open and have a youtube video open on the same screen and it isnt cramped at all. I wouldnt go any larger though

[Anonymous No.6527987]

>>6527918
My main concern is the bluetooth frying my balls. I don't want to turn into a faggot twitter artist.

[Anonymous No.6527998]

>>6526511
Guys. Buy XP-Pen and if it still works after 1 or 2 years you'll miraculously turn into an asian. Asian jeans for everyone!

[Anonymous No.6528011]

>>6527907
Which Surface Pro is that? I know SP7 and earlier with every pen other than the Slim Pen 2 is blergh in terms of drawing performance. Supposedly it's beyyer for SP8 but welp, none of the demo units I've checked so far has the Slim Pen 2 to try out, nor they have CSP (duh) so I could really only rely on reviewers.

Also I've checked out other 2-in-1 windows tablet with stylus. Anyone tried Acer Spin 5? They're using Wacom AES 2. 0 supposedly. I'm just thinking of having it for work first, drawing second.

[Anonymous No.6528015]

>>6526541
I think he just hates China lol.

[Anonymous No.6528026]

>>6527915
you can use it wired by default

[Anonymous No.6528172]

>>6527907
SP9 with the Slim Pen 2. It got like 20% better than the previous pen, but still sucks.

[Anonymous No.6528176]

>>6528011
SP9 with the Slim Pen 2. It got like 20% better than the previous pen, but still sucks.

[Anonymous No.6528471]

>>6528026
Alright, thank you.

[Anonymous No.6529487]

>>6521115
I'll say this literally anyone insists buying the Wacom 16 pro. DO NOT. It has very widely known and reported screen problems. I've owned a mobile studio pro, which has the same screen design, and I've used a 16 pro extensively. Both screens became damaged after less than a year of steady use (yes I was being careful not to apply too much pressure)
They are extremely prone to being damaged by daily use. The glass is too thin and the pixels are laminated so it's the equivalent of what you'd expect to happen if you just started drawing on your regular monitor. It gets fucked up. Either settle with the regular 16, or get a pro 22 if you absolutely need a laminated display... but the 22 has thicker glass so it negates that completely.

Don't fall for the hype of laminated screens it's effectively a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.6529885]

>>6513705
>just ordered an XP-Pen
It's over for me isn't it bros?

[Anonymous No.6529897]

>>6529885
not really, you can still use the tablet, just try different art programs that would best suit you

[Anonymous No.6529904]

>>6519851
Oh fuck wish I saw this earlier just ordered one

[Anonymous No.6530329]

>chang still trying so desperately hard with his falseflagging
lol

[Anonymous No.6530405]

>>6530329
>wacom product failing
>f-falseflag!

[Anonymous No.6530407]

Is there an Android drawing app that uses keyboard shortcuts?

[Anonymous No.6530465]

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[Anonymous No.6530478]

well, nobody cares but im gonna say:
my wacom ctl-672 is dead: the usb port inside is broken i guess cause i need to plug the cable in the middle, if i push it till the end the tablet disconect

Also another problem was that pression just bugged i guess, i had to get away the pen then get it back to the tablet for make everything normal again, nothing too annoying i guess
soooo, im gonna buy the one by wacom if the OP is right.

[Anonymous No.6530481]

>>6530478
wacom one* sorry

[Anonymous No.6530520]

>>6530478
>my wacom died so I'm buying another wacom

[Anonymous No.6530597]

>>6513704
>>I'm thinking of getting the Wacom One, should I buy it?
>Fuck off retard. Ask a better question.
Why is this in the OP? Is it Wacom one hate or just hate for overly simple questions ?

[Anonymous No.6530684]

>>6530465
Pac is baaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.6530742]

>>6530520
nothing last forever or are built to last forever. Consider the asking price for the one by wacom one should expect it to last for at least 5 years.

[Anonymous No.6531353]

it just fucking started doing this out of the blue at the end of quick strokes, i didn't fucking do anything to it and now nothing i do can make it go away, i have been googling for hours please help, i uninstalled and reinstalled all drivers, i unplugged everything for over 5 minutes, i turned off windows ink through gpedit and regedit, please fucking help me i don't know where the fuck else to ask, intuos M

[Anonymous No.6531638]

>>6530329
Post your art, show us the power of Wacom, or else we might think that you're just a schizo who has no clue about anything

[Anonymous No.6531644]

>>6513704
Nothing in this thread is useful, it's just a bunch of poor niggers and chinks flinging shit at each other. Does anybody here even own a good quality tablet or is everyone here just a poorfag with chink tec, seething at the more expensive tablets, and coping that they're bad by calling them jewnigger products?

[Anonymous No.6531770]

>>6531353
Did you try taking the tip out and blowing it clean? Otherwise you may have to increase the minimum pressure sensitivity on the pressure curve.

[Anonymous No.6531788]

do levels of pressure sensitivity matter? Im deciding to buy wacom intous medium or one by wacom. i dont really need the bottons and i could save more.

[Anonymous No.6531794]

>>6531788
Nah not really. It's mostly just a marketing gimmick. Plenty of pros are doing just fine using older hardware.

[Anonymous No.6531887]

>>6531644
Wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom wacom.

[Anonymous No.6531982]

>>6531644
Post your work

[Anonymous No.6531984]

>>6531788
Honestly not really anything with 2000 pressure level is good

[Anonymous No.6531988]

Anyone found a 120Hz drawing display? So far I found only one from Wacom but 27" is tad too fucking big for my use case (apart from being expensive). I know Samsung, iPads and Surface Pros are already 120Hz. But I'd prefer a windows device because I could plug my Razer Tartarus keypad for all of my one-hand shortcuts.

[Anonymous No.6531990]

>>6531353
This looks like a driver issue, did you install something recently that might fuck with your Wacom driver?

[Anonymous No.6531993]

Why is the resident wacom schizo still picking fights with everyone? Why do you add stress to yourself for no reason?

[Anonymous No.6531998]

>>6531988
Why don't you qget a pen tablet and then just get a good ass monitor

[Anonymous No.6532001]

>>6531993
Just ask him to post his work he will immediately inflate lmao

[Anonymous No.6532039]

Is it retarded to buy an Ipad Pro just for drawing if I already have a cintiq? Its so much effort to get everything setup each time as I don't have a space where I can leave the cintiq always on.

I feel I'd draw way more if I could just open an app and start doodling rather then physically moving the cintiq around, opening csp, waiting for everything to load, getting right shit etc

[Anonymous No.6532423]

>>6532039
Personally I vastly prefer drawing with a desktop tablet to an iPad. desktop CSP, a bigger screen, plus the etched glass display lends itself to a much nicer experience.
I have a large enough desk to have it always readily available though.
I only ever use my iPad when I want to draw on my couch now, but it's still a solid drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.6532454]

>>6530478
Nigger, did you just took your tablet and stomped on it?
How the fuck do you destroy a drawing tablet THIS much.
>>6530597
>Why is this in the OP? Is it Wacom one hate or just hate for overly simple questions ?
OP is a Wacom Schizo shill who views owning a Wacom as some sort of elitism because they charge over $500 more for a marginal increase in quality over their competitors. Is not the marginal increase in quality the thing he shills, but spending the $500.

Notice how he first calls out poorfags before chinks and assumes the thread should be about dick wavering for who has the best tablet.
>>6531644
The Wacom One was created as an affordable Cintiq alternative, so he thinks anyone who buys a Wacom One is just a poser, because they aren't spending insane amounts of money to belong to the Wacom club.
Now you shouldn't buy a Wacom One because it's really nerfed from the Cintiq and for half the price you can buy a Huion 13, although idk if that model specifically has been corrected from the shitty years, if it hasn't then go for the One.

[Anonymous No.6532629]

I have a question about how much can I expect to do with a super cheap tablet.

This is the only one I could afford: https://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/tableta-grafica-wacom-one-by-wacom-ctl-472-negra-y-roja/p/MLA18062496?pdp_filters=category:MLA10089#searchVariation=MLA18062496&position=1&search_layout=stack&type=product&tracking_id=829b3be3-a9d4-47f3-be36-1d6a80ddb61f

I use it while I watch what I draw on a big TV I connected my desktop PC, if my tablet is so small and has no screen and can't detect how I'm holding my stylus, I still can aim to do clean linearts or should I just do traditional inking and then scann it so that I paint digitally? if I can still do linearts with it anyone has a good recommendation on someone who does good art on his videos with a cheap tablet so I can see some tips on what should I do?

[Anonymous No.6532634]

tablets are just a tool. I use a regular intuous small and make decent enough work with it. I had a 24HD at work though that was pretty sweet not going to lie.

[Anonymous No.6532637]

>>6532629
Fellow thirdworlder here.
That's shit.
Not because of the tablet but your TV monitor, I would get a much smaller monitor to be frank, even a cheap ass one, because the bigger the difference is between the canvas and the tablet, the harder it will be to control.
>or should I just do traditional inking and then scann it so that I paint digitally?
Definitely your best option.
And eventually, also a bigger tablet, even Huion, just to close the gap between tablet and canvas (monitor) size.

[Anonymous No.6532639]

>>6532634
>I use a regular intuous small and make decent enough work
I hate my intuos small because I can't use my elbow to draw, only in long lines.
My wrist hurts eventually.
Small tablets in general shouldn't be advertised for drawing, they're for photo editing.

[Anonymous No.6532663]

>>6531998
I already have that. 165Hz monitor and if I switch off my drawing tablet, the lines come out super fucking smooth. Which is why it's a bummer none of these drawing tablet manufacturers had made any 120Hz display yet and instead focusing on 4K displays on a 16" screens. Apart from wacoms

[Anonymous No.6532667]

>>6532663
To clarify if I use my display tablet like a screenless tablet on my main monitor.

[Anonymous No.6532687]

>>6532637
So I should use my laptop instead of my TV? obviously my laptop is smaller but when I watch tutorials and stuff I usually go for my TV since being so small sometimes makes it hard to see, I mostly use my laptop too play RPGMaker games and watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver...

[Anonymous No.6532734]

>>6532687
>So I should use my laptop instead of my TV?
Not only yes, but for such a small tablet, that's actually preferable, just remember to zoom in.

[Anonymous No.6532753]

>>6532639
medium is the perfect size for pen tablets, drawing with your elbow feels really awkward on them so the XL versions are kinda useless

[Anonymous No.6532755]

>>6532629
Do the lineart on paper and use the small tablet to do the inking

[Anonymous No.6532765]

>>6532039
I use my ipad a lot in general as its like a more portable laptop, has a lot of use outside drawing, recently have been sketching on the ipad the finishing/coloring on desktop which has been working out so far

[Anonymous No.6532830]

>>6530478
Me again niggas!
I gonna check the usb port, clean it and move it

[Anonymous No.6532834]

>>6532765
Nta I'm tempted to get an iPad but I already somewhat rooted to the Samsung Android ecosystem lol.

[Anonymous No.6532850]

>>6532830
1) Jesus christ, clean your tabs and your monitor.
Also, paint your wall or put tiles or wallpaper. Block generates a lot of dust to your electronics.
2) Micro USB? Be careful not to rip the contacts, if it's already bend then it's more fragile.
3) 2017???? weren't the One by Wacom's released in 2020?
I understand there's testing times and then they make sure to have several thousand made before shipping, but 3 years?

[Anonymous No.6532853]

>>6532834
yeah, i rely pretty heavily on icloud it also costs some for storage a month:
50GB: $0.99
200GB: $2.99
2TB: $9.99

[Anonymous No.6532962]

>>6532850
>weren't the One by Wacom's released in 2020
I think you hibernated, anon, because I'm pretty sure One by Wacom officially released sometime in 2017, just with different name
they rebranded the names of certain CTL models to One by Wacom, cause im preeeetty sure my 2 of my friends got a same model in 2017, of course they probably updated the guts of newer models, but i recall when people started talking about CTL-672/CTL-472 as One by Wacom, and even on youtube you got 2017 unboxing videos

[Anonymous No.6532999]

>>6532753
>drawing with your elbow feels really awkward on them so the XL versions are kinda useless
Shouldn't you be using your shoulder at XL? I always assumed XL sizes were supposed to actually imitate a canvas.

[Anonymous No.6533074]

>>6526498
I don't get it either. My artist pro 13 works great, never had any problems with it. Screen is perfectly color calibrated as well. I'm thinking OP is just a bit of a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.6533080]

>>6532755
aren't lineart and inking the same thing on the context you used?

[Anonymous No.6533180]

>>6532999
If you draw with ur a elbow you automatically use ur shoulder

[Anonymous No.6533207]

>>6513704
I have one of those pieces of shit, though a bigger model. I really miss my Intuos 3, though. Well, technically I still have it, but the pen broke and the surface is scratched to hell.

[Anonymous No.6533213]

>>6517055
Wait, is this thing real and actually standalone? It's dirt cheap, assuming it does what it says.

[Anonymous No.6533222]

>>6533074
>Screen is perfectly color calibrated as well.
No it's not. Let's not get carried away here.

[Anonymous No.6533233]

>>6533213
Yeah
I don't really see much purpose of the 24" unless you travel a lot and need a full sized drawing tablet everywhere you go. 24" isn't really that portable.
Seems like you'd be better off just getting the kamvas 24 plus and building your own better pc for the same price.
The 16" I understand the appeal though, and will probably get eventually to replace my iPad.

[Anonymous No.6533240]

>>6533233
I have several computers and two wacoms, and have been drawing since the early 2000s. I just want something portable, so I can draw without sitting in front of the computer, mostly for the sake of convenience and inspiration.

[Anonymous No.6533291]

>>6533240
I think the 16 would fill that role better than the 24.

[Anonymous No.6533296]

>>6533291
I dunno. I have four 32 inch monitors, so I clearly like big uns.

[Anonymous No.6533531]

>>6531770
yeah i did, replaced it with a new one and even tried plugging it in so that it isn't all the way in, no change
>>6531990
no, the only thing i did was restart the wacom driver service which is something i do regularly whenever the tablet disconnects to prevent another bug
i've given up, it's a feature now

[Anonymous No.6533547]

bought a huion kamvas pro 13 5 years ago. returned 3 pens cuz they broke (threw against a wall). all new came free. made 7k off of yt. still drawing. slight hdmi problem i blame shitty laptop, works fine on pc

[Anonymous No.6533577]

>>6533547
>returned 3 pens cuz they broke (threw against a wall)
????

[Anonymous No.6533599]

( my fault )

[Anonymous No.6533683]

>>6532639
>Small tablets in general shouldn't be advertised for drawing, they're for photo editing.
Absolutely this
I had my first ever tablet, it was a huion h420 back in 2013, it was purely used for osu! but after a while, i tried using some various programs (sai, gimp) and it was absolute pain to manage tablet ratio to screen ratio, since it was smaller then an A5 sheet of paper
Then i got a Wacom CTL-671, which was a good upgrade, since it was reasonably good in 2014, i still have it to this day, just dont use it anymore, because way back in 2018/2019 the tablet fell so unfortunately, it broke the cable itself...i bought another usb, but it still had some problems with the port and i didnt bother fixing it, because that model was 35$ dirt cheap, it did still kinda work dont get me wrong, but it was sometimes disconnecting on its own, so i just bought another tablet (Veikk A15) and went with it for like another 2-3 years before getting a kamvas 13 last year.
So in fact, small tablets (smaller than Wacom CTL-671) should not be advertised as "tablet for art", because the ratio would be just wayyy off and i dont think any of those cheap ones (under 50$) can even be compatible with drawing on a phone/normal screen tablet anyway, unless you use some kind of magic and configure the hell out of that cheap model...otherwise, better go with medium sizes or even large if you want accurate lines...i'm not saying "go big or go home", medium sized tablets work as amazing as big ones, it's all about comfort and budget, i used to grind on my 2014 wacom for 4-5 years before going onto another model...in total i had 4 models including the current kamvas, at least since i've gotten to know what a graphic tablet is (i didn't even knew those existed before 2012, because they werent even as big of a deal as smartphones)

[Anonymous No.6533998]

>>6533547
Seek help

[Anonymous No.6534223]

I'm thinking of getting a displayless tablet as a beginner.
What dimensiosn and size should I get? Whats a good starter model?

[Anonymous No.6534225]

>>6534223
Wacom intuos or bamboo is a good start, imo. I draw on a used 13hd now but my bamboo still works fine and I got it in 2012

[sage No.6534257]

>>6534225
>bamboo
Do they even make Bamboo still?
>>6534223
Depending on what can you pay?
Get medium size, if possible get Wacom, but if the choice for prize is between Wacom Small or Huion Medium get Huion.
In order
>Wacom Intuos Pro Medium
>Xencelabs Medium
>Huion Inspiroy 2 Medium
>Wacom Intuos Medium
>Huion H611S
>Latest Xp-Pen Medium

[Anonymous No.6534259]

>>6534257
>>6534225
Is that order from worst to best or best to worst?

What size is medium, like how many inches?

[Anonymous No.6534264]

>>6534223
I recommend a RAND tablet, I'm using my grandad's old one that he got for his 8th birthday and it still works fine today

[Anonymous No.6534268]

>>6534259
>Is that order from worst to best or best to worst?
Best to wost
>What size is medium, like how many inches
There's no standard among brands.
They all call them either Small, Medium out Large, but even in these categories they all vary from brand to brand.
Generally speaking, the ones classified as medium are more comfortable, the ones categorized as small are gonna limit your abilities severely.
If the exact sizes worry you that much, check the specs of each one before your buy, but timey of thumb is don't buy small.
>>6534264
I know you're probably telling, but it would be so cool if you weren't, if I had the moment, fuck the Wacom 27, I'd buy all the retro drawing tablets from 2010 and before just to appreciate the evolution.

[Anonymous No.6534273]

>>6534259 #
>Is that order from worst to best or best to worst?
Best to wost
>What size is medium, like how many inches
There's no standard among brands.
They all call them either Small, Medium or Large, but even in these categories they all vary from brand to brand.
Generally speaking, the ones classified as medium are more comfortable, the ones categorized as small are gonna limit your abilities severely.
If the exact sizes worry you that much, check the specs of each one before your buy, but rule of thumb is don't buy small.
>>6534264 #
I know you're probably trolling, but it would be so cool if you weren't, if I had the money, fuck the Wacom 27, I'd buy all the retro drawing tablets from 2010 and before just to appreciate the evolution.

[Anonymous No.6534309]

>>6534273
I'm just wondering about dimensions in inches because its more specific than something subjective like "medium"

[Anonymous No.6534419]

>>6534309
>something subjective like "medium"
Except medium is like the same size across the board

[Anonymous No.6534593]

>>6534223
I started on an Intuos back in 2012. Though nowadays you can get from a other brands with similar performance from Huion and XP-Pen as >>6534257 mentioned.

[Anonymous No.6535042]

Tablet-friends, I'm using CLIP STUDIO PAINT on an iPad and sometimes when i rest the edge of my palm on the screen it randomly does an eyedropper tool action where it changes the colour of my brush to what i touched

I can't replicate this consistently, I searched through the settings and tried googling it but wasn't successful so far

what's causing this shit and how do I turn it off?

[Anonymous No.6535067]

I tried a Samsung Galaxy Book Pro in the store today, which has Wacom EMR, and it was really good. A lot better than the shitpad. Unfortunately it was north of £1000 and had a pathetic 8GB of RAM. Why can't vendors make a budget one for artists?

[Anonymous No.6535353]

any tips for making my tablet more comfortable to use with its smaller screen? im using xp pen artist 12 2nd gen.
i notice i cant zoom in more than like 130% before the canvas starts to get pixelated,feels like i dont have much room to draw anything without needing to adjust something.

[Anonymous No.6535358]

just came here to say I've still got a ten year old Wacom Bamboo and I don't ever wanna replace it God bless

[Anonymous No.6535361]

>>6535353
what's your ppi?

[Anonymous No.6535367]

>>6535361
185 i had to look it up, dont know much about this stuff.

[Anonymous No.6535504]

>>6535353
increase canvas resolution?

[Anonymous No.6535506]

>>6535067
I was looking forwards to the Book Pro 360 as well but shame it doesn't sell officially in my country.

[Anonymous No.6535660]

>>6535367
try 300

[Anonymous No.6535722]

>>6535660
try deez nuts

[Anonymous No.6535814]

>>6535042
I dont know about iPad's CSP but on my Android CSP, I have the setting if I use touch for 1-2 seconds it'll change to eyedropper. Saves a shortcut slot at least

[Anonymous No.6536213]

>>6513704
Is 22" overkill for a display tablet and would 16" be enough?

I'm using a 16" drawing tablet at the moment and plan to upgrade to a display one, though I'm torn between the size. The price difference is about 250 $ between the difference size.

[Anonymous No.6536410]

>>6536213
>Is 22" overkill for a display tablet
no, not at all.
22" or 24" tablets are very nice to draw on. Remember that about 1/3 (1/6 on either side) of your canvas is typically taken up by UI elements.

[Anonymous No.6536431]

>>6536410
Thanks for you input, anon!

[Anonymous No.6536450]

>>6536431
I don't know if this is helpful in any way, but here's a 12.9" ipad next to the drawing area of a 22" kamvas.
22" tablets are about the size of modern 24" normal monitors including the bezel, so something you can try to see if it would work for you is pretend to draw on your normal monitor. 24" tablets are actually closer to the size of 27" monitors because they almost always have huge bezels.
Also I saw a list a while ago of what like a dozen "big" are youtubers used, and almost all of them used a 24" cintiq or kamvas.

[Anonymous No.6536468]

we're about at the end of this thread's life, so
>>6536466
new
>>6536466

>>6536466

[Anonymous No.6536598]

>>6535814
This is it, how do i turn it off senpai

[Anonymous No.6536612]

>>6536598
tap the CSP logo on the top left of the screen
go to modifer key settings
all the way at the bottom, there's a setting for long press.
change that to none.

[Anonymous No.6536738]

>>6536612
Thank you senpai, it's well hidden

[Anonymous No.6537289]

>>6536468
Another early thread. Typical chang.