how to bring my art from mid to good?

[Anonymous No.6509085]

there is something missing, but i don't know what. how can i bring my art to the next level? how can i improve this piece? feel free to paint over it if you'd like. thanks guys :)

[Anonymous No.6509087]

>>6509085
render things other than just the boobs and face. The ugly catpaw looks like a cope for not being able to drraw hands.
also don't have her floating on a white background.

[Anonymous No.6509095]

>>6509085
How about you stop doing those overly worked korean anime makeup faces women love to draw even though they look disgusting as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6509097]

>>6509085
mmmm boobs

[Anonymous No.6509100]

>>6509087
hahah i had no fucking clue how to draw a cat paw so i just did a blob. but yea she did have a hand before that wasnt much better. what kind of background would be better then? i don't do elaborate backgrounds

[Anonymous No.6509101]

>>6509095
are you suggesting some more semi-realism would be better?

[Anonymous No.6509103]

>>6509100
Yeah you should have gotten a reference or something from an egirl wearing one of these things. Ends up bringing down the piece.

As for background I suppose it depends what you want to emphasize, is she streaming, or is she dressed like this in public? Is it supposed to be an intimate moment or is it supposed to be a selfie? By adding a background you further the narrative of the drawing making the piece more interesting for the viewers.

[Anonymous No.6509105]

>>6509085
Nice work on the tits. They look fat and heavy as they should.

[Anonymous No.6509111]

>>6509103
hmm im not sure how to answer. i guess there is no real narrative, it's just a random painting of a random cat girl. i wasnt trying to tell any sort of story. i just like to focus on the character themselves like a lot of other artists who do just the flat white bgs. besides, if my focal point (the girl) isn't well done, a bg won't be doing anything but trying to hide that. i'd like to focus on bringing her to the next level

[Anonymous No.6509113]

>>6509105
thanks!

[Anonymous No.6509122]

>>6509085
Refine your wobbly ass linework
Make the character emotive, the face, the pose, the hands, the outfit, they don't convey anything, it's like a doll
Compare your art to artists you aspire to and see the differences
Break your comfort zone and try to add a background

[Anonymous No.6509128]

>>6509113
Any artist that has inpired your titwork? I am a fan of eu03 myself.

[Anonymous No.6509135]

>>6509122
thank you for these tips :) i will take these all into consideration. i do spend a lot of time comparing myself to others, but that usually ends in me not drawing for 3 months out of shame lmfao. i definitely need to work on emoting, thats out of my comfort zone too, but i would like to get better at it. thanks again

[Anonymous No.6509137]

>>6509128
not really no. i just imagine big water balloons and go from there. it's an amalgamation of things ive seen other nsfw artists do and it all boils down to the same thing

[Anonymous No.6509138]

>>6509111
prompt?

[Anonymous No.6509142]

>>6509137
Another good pair of tits.
What software do you use?

[Anonymous No.6509145]

>>6509142
who is the artist of this piece? i like the rendering!
thanks, i use clip studio paint and just the regular hard round brush from photoshop imported in

[Anonymous No.6509151]

>>6509145
eu03. He also uses csp and rawdogs it with nothing but a basic opacity, fucktons of layers, autism and tons of time.
Do you have a twitter, anon?

[Anonymous No.6509160]

>>6509101
Do these exact same faces in quarters and you'll see how they fall flat, specially in the eyes. Either go full anime or embrace stylized realism.

[Anonymous No.6509165]

>>6509160
>faces in quarters
What

[Anonymous No.6509167]

>>6509085
which 3d model did you use?

[Anonymous No.6509170]

>>6509165

[Anonymous No.6509172]

>>6509111
>pajeet stealing their own kind artwork
Not surprised

[Anonymous No.6509180]

>>6509085
This is pillow shaded

[Anonymous No.6509183]

>>6509167
none, which should be obvious by the anatomy mistakes heh..

[Anonymous No.6509184]

>>6509180
sorry, what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.6509185]

>>6509172
what? i used this piece by daehoon to show an example of the type of art i am trying to do, with the white backgrounds and focus on character. in no way did i claim this was my work. it obviously isnt as my style is nothing like that nor near that high quality

[Anonymous No.6509187]

>>6509160
this is about how i do 3/4 faces in my style

[Anonymous No.6509215]

>>6509187
I rest my case. That style only works in the front plane, the whole proportion of the elements and their placements is uncanny when you alter the angles.

[Anonymous No.6509219]

I think its really good so I don't know. Maybe show the whole body or add backgrounds? The figure is nice everything else is bland

[Anonymous No.6509221]

>>6509187
Eyes seem too low on this and I like it less than the OP.

[Anonymous No.6509222]

>>6509215
>>6509221
thanks for the advice guys. ill try to draw my faces differently. maybe go more semi-realistic idk

[Anonymous No.6509223]

>>6509222
Choose the IG pill.

[Anonymous No.6509237]

>>6509111
I wouldn't say the background is to distract just that it would make viewers more interested in your art. I think the fact that you have no idea who she is or what she is doing is what makes it feel bland.

I am not necessarily saying that you have to start doing backgrounds but if you want to get away with drawing no backgrounds you HAVE to improve your compositions as well as overall skill level.

[Anonymous No.6509246]

>>6509237
>if you want to get away with drawing no backgrounds you HAVE to improve your compositions as well as overall skill level.
yea thats pretty much my exact goal here, which is why i asked for advice on that rather than throwing a bg behind an unfinished mid character and hoping it makes it passable yk?

[Anonymous No.6509259]

>>6509085
idk mang

[Anonymous No.6509260]

>>6509246
Fair enough but I wouldn't put off doing backgrounds for too long. Otherwise you are going to stagnate.

[Anonymous No.6509261]

>>6509223
What do you think a prodigy like Hiroyuki Okiura studied to become so good at drawing? Mans was doing key animation straight out of high school and doing animation direction at like 20 LOL

[Anonymous No.6509263]

>>6509261
What is your point

[Anonymous No.6509266]

>>6509259
Do this op

[Anonymous No.6509267]

>>6509263
Reading comprehension got you down?

[Anonymous No.6509271]

>>6509267
Guy did key animation, so what?

[Anonymous No.6509273]

>>6509271
Would the proposition make more sense to you if it were about Kim Jung Gi or whoever else you d/ic/ks generally acknowledge as being overwhelmingly talented?

[Anonymous No.6509279]

>>6509085
easy: get out of your comfort zone.
never drawn landscapes? study Ghibli studio screencaps, never drawn mecha? do some Gundam, just try new difficult stuff and learn from everywhere

[Anonymous No.6509280]

>>6509273
>Take the IG pill
What does IG mean? That is what I don't get.

[Anonymous No.6509301]

>>6509280
IG meaning Production IG, a prominent anime studio. In the 90s they were making movies that are still considered among the most well-animated of all time like Ghost in the Shell and Jin-Roh. Their style of animation and design tended to be more realistic which is why that anon pointed you in the direction of GITS >>6509223
which featured Okiura's designs. It's worth studying him and his colleagues' work since they tend to blend anime style and realism in an appealing way

[Anonymous No.6509305]

>>6509301
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.6509337]

ugh i feel like i just cant improve this i hate art lol

[Anonymous No.6509341]

>>6509259
>has butt for a chest

[Anonymous No.6509355]

>titties made of goo
big ack

[Anonymous No.6509418]

>>6509261
>>6509273
Hideaki Anno also mastered mechanical animation in his first or second year of college if I recall correctly and after that he shifted his goals into directing.
I don't think these people are talented, they just have a really big interest in their craft, which makes them transform the hobby into almost a religion. Not only that but the art colleges in Japan are generally very good and they have tons and tons of resources in native language.
I say this because I had experiences in life that made me realize it comes down to putting in the hours.
1. When I was admitted into university, I got sent into january for my first semester (this was in july of the previous year). That gave me 5 months of neetism.
I was having a talk with my father of cool ways to earn lots of money around the 5th of said month and one of the options was to make art commissions (I had never tried to do those, I didn't even have online accounts), but the next day, I opened an account and started drawing in tryhard mode.
This thing consumed me, I woke up at 9 am, had breakfast and kept drawing until 4 am. I read art books for the first time and I did lots of studies, old masters, anime, movie composition, you name it.
When those 5 months ended, the first painting I had done for the internet was incomparable to the last. And it was a blast.
Pay was good too, from the get go I had $100+ commissions with what? 150 followers?
2. You don't try to think about it, but those 'talented' animators, illustrators, directors...They all had at least 4 years of college where they were able to only work in art. Homework? Group projects? Subjects? All fields where they could practice and practice and practice. I, for example, am studying engineering, I'm investing 5 years of my life with a brain in full capacity, 5 years in which I have almost no free time (semester starts the 13th) and can't go back into the art atmosphere because I know I can't handle the two worlds.

[Anonymous No.6509421]

>>6509418
Also, don't want to discredit the man, but Jung Gi was overrated as fuck. He is the definition of doodling shit up until you make it.

[Anonymous No.6509446]

>>6509418
>>6509421
PYW

[Anonymous No.6509453]

>>6509446
I'll keep posting the same last thing I did, haven't done anything note worthy since.

[Anonymous No.6509456]

>>6509453
For reference, this was more or less my skill top at the start of that july.

[Anonymous No.6509457]

>>6509456
SEXO HAG

[Anonymous No.6509547]

>>6509111
this is impressive, do people really just construct stuff that looks perfectly 3d out of thin air or do they have models that contain all these fat and muscle bumps?

[Anonymous No.6509548]

>>6509547
nevermind... its ai.... fuck my fucking life.... this is the first time I actually got demoralized over art..............

[Anonymous No.6509556]

>>6509453
Looks amazing anon

[Anonymous No.6509591]

>>6509548
Of course it is. Mind telling why you think so? Or are you just gonna post another "sad character" image instead?

>>6509547
Just lol.

[Anonymous No.6509594]

>>6509337
dangerously breedable

[Anonymous No.6509628]

>>6509184

[Anonymous No.6509726]

background

[Anonymous No.6509748]

>>6509341
That's why large breasts evolved in human females, yes

[Anonymous No.6509918]

>>6509548
No way it's got hands tho. How do I cope

[Anonymous No.6510170]

>>6509085
It's the mouth, it doesn't look finished.

[Anonymous No.6510424]

>>6509085
>>6509337
has anyone mentioned colour? I think you've got to add more natural skin tones like reds and pinks to certain areas, otherwise people will call it corpse-like. and change the shadows from black to colour too

[Anonymous No.6510465]

>>6509548
Nigger she's got random hair growing out her arm you didn't pay much attention.

[Anonymous No.6510840]

>>6509172
I got sad seeing this was an AI because I really liked the brush

[Anonymous No.6510848]

>>6509628
>>6509187
pillow shading is when the shading is scattered so much that that the subject appears to be a flat thing with some bumps in it.

[Anonymous No.6510864]

>>6509085
just improve a little on the shading to describe the form and you will be way better. Pick at least one main light direction and adjust the shading towards it.

This is how I would change.

[Anonymous No.6511167]

>>6510848
no it isn't it's when you simply put the shadow on every outline

[Anonymous No.6511337]

>>6509085
perhaps give her a more expressive face

[Anonymous No.6511821]

[Anonymous No.6513110]

>>6509085
draw full body and background. learn to draw hands. fix tail