/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6506231]

why do you draw? has AI made anyone else ask themselves this?

[Anonymous No.6506237]

lol

[Anonymous No.6506239]

Is there an over/under on how fast the whiners will get this thread pruned or deleted?

[Anonymous No.6506245]

>>6506231
Because I want to and I also don't enjoy playing the lottery with some ai trash
I want to have full control of where things go and how they're supposed to look like
No begone retard

[Anonymous No.6506248]

>>6506245
>I want to have full control of where things go and how they're supposed to look like
Use img2img and imaging editing software.

[Anonymous No.6506256]

>>6506245
>I draw because I'm too dumb to learn AI properly

[Anonymous No.6506259]

>>6506256
There's nothing to learn. AI is exclusively for retards that can't learn a skill.

[Anonymous No.6506264]

>>6506256
How about you learn how to draw aicel

[Anonymous No.6506266]

>>6506256
>I prompt because I'm too dumb to learn how to draw properly

[Anonymous No.6506271]

>>6506231
Because it's fun, I find the process enjoyable and relaxing.
Generating shit takes me out of that experience and makes the result unsatisfying as I do not have the power or stupidity required to convince myself that it's me who made it.

[Anonymous No.6506274]

Copyright violation. Call the feds and the jannies.

[Anonymous No.6506277]

I draw because it makes me happy and because I want to make other people happy with the things I draw.
It's a saccharine response for this kind of website but that's how i feel.

[Anonymous No.6506282]

>>6506231
Even if I wanted to answer you, I can't. I've been drawing since I could grab a pencil. I've 'quited' many times and before I knew it I was drawing or painting something new. It's like I can't live without drawing, and fortunately, I'm in a constant state of inspiration, so I never get bored.
AIfags can't beat me because I'm in a whole another playfield.

[Anonymous No.6506283]

>>6506256
The fucking ironing lmao

[Anonymous No.6506302]

>>6506274
is this ai?

[Anonymous No.6506304]

>>6506231
Rope

[Anonymous No.6506309]

>>6506259
Any activity can be a skill. Just as you can learn to be better at drawing by drawing faster and with higher quality, same can be done for AI assume, as there's ton of mediocre AI art and few of actually good ones, so I assume the people making the good ones took their time to improve whatever they do, to stand out from the sea of bad ones.

[Anonymous No.6506312]

>>6506302
dada surreal britto

[Anonymous No.6506317]

>>6506309
the reason so many people have jumped on ai vs drawing is that it literally requires almost 0 time or skill to create anything, if these people really cared about the visual arts they would have been drawing already
also, the whole prompting thing is just a temporary stage, if art can be automated then all the "finesse" or whatever u wanna call it that goes into custom models and prompts certainly can and will be within a matter of months
the entire point of these algorithms is to remove the the skill and time required to create drawings, they'll be looking for ways to dumb it down as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.6506320]

>>6506256
>learn ai

[Anonymous No.6506321]

>>6506309
Guess they better value those "skills" while they still matter.
As generators improve, the skill requirements for using them right will get lowered to essentially nothing as that's their end goal, their entire purpose and selling point.
Good thing the ones that get good with them generously provide the data necessary to achieve that goal merely by using the product.

[Anonymous No.6506326]

>>6506277
based joymaxxer

[Anonymous No.6506328]

>>6506248
That still sucks ass, plus if you are not using the correct training model it will not give you good results. I2i gives you horseshit results where it does not follow the pose most of the time and sometimes straight up adds multiple arms and shit.

[Anonymous No.6506330]

>>6506321
Its already the cave with Midjourney. You can get basically every picture high quality and good looking, the only hard part is getting what you actually want. With Stable you still need skill at prompting because it is too raw and does not fiddle with your prompts at all, plus SD is the smallest of the big AI bunch (Dall-E 2, Midjourney). Only reason anons prefer Stable over Midjourney is because Midjourney does not allow gore and nudity, and NovelAI is shit that is also paid. Midjourney is also paid, but it gives you 25 free pictures per discord account. Also another reason why anons prefer Stable is because they are autistic Linux users that hate corporations and prefer open-source locally run alternative over superior easier to use product that is controlled by corporation.

[Anonymous No.6506332]

>>6506330
in the future, shitty looking art will be valued more, since it will be an uphill battle to produce images that look crude

[Anonymous No.6506334]

>>6506277
this is the attitude that gets you far, some people want coombux some validation but this is what it all comes down to

[Anonymous No.6506335]

>>6506328
From what I've seen it has less problems with extra body parts (at least when it's a basic bitch pose), but it still misinterprets details or any unique elements.
If it's an undetailed image then it will add in extra shit just because it felt like it, I swear to fucking god you have to go out of your way to prevent the stupid thing from giving every other female character a choker.
If your image is already good and detailed enough then you might as well just finish it yourself.

[Anonymous No.6506338]

>>6506248
It's faster to do it yourself.

[Anonymous No.6506356]

>>6506335
Wish there was AI which could do just the shading for me. I enjoy drawing the lines and just drawing the lines alone makes me do every creative decision. Then the shading takes like 5 times more time to do and is the main area where you can see the difference between talented and beg artist. If AI researchers found a problem and then tried to fix it, they would make this AI instead of text2img horseshit we have now, because shading AI would be used more by actual artists and would be the tool that levels out the playing field for talent as they claim text2img does. But sadly they work like scientists where they discover something useless and then try find use for it or engineer use for the easiest problem to solve, rather then the most important problem to solve.

[Anonymous No.6506394]

>>6506338
>It's faster to do it yourself.
So is sex.

[Anonymous No.6506396]

>>6506394
I mean you do have sex, don't you anon?

[Anonymous No.6506460]

>>6506231
I draw because I have fun drawing.

[Anonymous No.6506474]

>>6506338
My 4090 says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6506479]

>>6506309
Nah, it's just random words they throw at the program.

[Anonymous No.6506687]

>>6506231
Didn't made me question why I draw, personally- I just do, I always did and always will.
It did actually challenge my outlook on art a little. Is art just a pretty picture? Then why do this machine vomit doesn't move me in the slightest? I'm not even disgusted at it or intrigued by some of the horrors it spit like some DeviantArt abominations did.

There's nothing there.

Reinforced this idea I entertained, that art is a form of communication. A natural rock can look beautiful, but I wouldn't call it art, it has nothing to say. Same deal with machine-made pictures. It doesn't say anything, it only manages to parody what was already the lowest, most derivative forms of art. I think this is what people mean when they say "Soulless", something that earnestly attempts to convey an idea, even without proper skills to back it up, is infinitely more powerful and resounding than anything a machine can make.

[Anonymous No.6506689]

if you have this question in mind often and have asked it to yourself after observing the effects of artificial "intelligence", maybe you are not drawing for yourself and your power. maybe, you are in fact faced with a hidden motive that was present all along, such as a need for validation or money like mentioned above.
technology cannot surpass the expression of the human Creator. i the imminent technocracy of the future decades there will be a day where it will be considered mad to not give up your soul.

[Anonymous No.6506724]

>>6506231
Anon, AI art has been completely btfo and exposed as a fraud that actually just copies images, despite AI bros coping about how it "learns just like a human". It's game over for """AI""" right now.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7gznn/ai-spits-out-exact-copies-of-training-images-real-people-logos-researchers-find

[Anonymous No.6506727]

>>6506724
How does AI spit out exactly copies if it doesn't store exact copies? Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.6506739]

>>6506727
It just does. King me.

[Anonymous No.6506777]

Drawing is the medium for my storytelling. I can imagine AI helping people who lack the art skills but can work with a rudimentary understanding of Photoshop or its equivalent,who could assemble their comic panels from harvested chunks the AIs whip up.

[Anonymous No.6506808]

>>6506231
Man, every fucking day.

[Anonymous No.6506809]

Because a disgusting fetish AI can't do well

[Anonymous No.6506832]

>>6506727
It doesn't spit out exact copies. If there are bazillion copies of the same image in the training data set (Mona Lisa, for example) it can learn to make pretty good copies.

[Anonymous No.6506866]

The same reason people climb mountains, it's fun. I also prompt but it's a different kind of fun. It's like cooking and ordering take out/getting ready made food, nothing beats the high of making something nice with your own two hands.

[Anonymous No.6506868]

>>6506832
>It doesn't spit out exact copies.
yeah bro totally not
not like there's already a thread up with a link that proves you wrong
keep being retarded tho jeetlet

[Anonymous No.6506880]

>>6506231
Because I don't have a video card.

[Anonymous No.6507022]

>>6506231
all my drawings are all designs of some sort, carpentry joinery diagrams or architecture accompanied or anime girls, I drew because I don't want the idea in my head to rot there never to be thought of again, that solid scrap of paper contains visual information of an idea that I had at the time, I draw because I don't want to forget, you wouldn't let an amusing mental image just be a mental image right? got to put that shit on paper

[Anonymous No.6507065]

>>6506724
Based, we found Pepe’s successor for the 2020’s.

[Anonymous No.6507108]

>>6506321
Btw, if you are a career artist you'll get promoted eventually and will be tasked with managing teams schedules art direction etc. rather than drawing the lines yourself.

[Anonymous No.6507111]

>>6506231
because its fun

[Anonymous No.6507125]

>>6506231
who cares about drawing when you can make another collage of "goyslop if it was 80's dark fantasy film" and post it on YouTube? now that's real entertainment right there

[Anonymous No.6507740]

>>6506724
how do i shade like the dots on that cat?

[Anonymous No.6507746]

>>6507740
just clip some dots onto the shape, retard, there’s no shading there, it’s just uniform flat tone

[Anonymous No.6507829]

>>6507125
Oh so I'm not the only one being recommended that garbage, huh? Not sure if I should be glad or sad.
Give people powerful "tools" and they'll use it to milk a single idea to death and then some.

[Anonymous No.6507871]

>>6506474
And you still can't produce an actually good image.

[Anonymous No.6507876]

>>6507740
It supposedly replicates the tone sheets that old school manga artists used before digital came along. Persona 5 really had fun using that.

[Anonymous No.6508269]

>>6507740
Look up screentones in your program of choice

[Anonymous No.6508278]

>>6507125
>>6507829
I got it in my feed to even tho all I do on youtube is listen to music
I'm amazed that people seem so entertained by this or the deep fake voice memes. Don't they realize how fucking dystopian it all is. Like I'm not gonna lose my shit over some meme montage but it feels like people wanna hook themselves to an infinite goyslop machine... Even watching some dude on stream has more value than this.

[Anonymous No.6508303]

>>6506231
Hmph, how very glib.

[Anonymous No.6508308]

>>6508278
That's an understatement. Remember that article that tried to claim that people are more motivated by free pizza than extra wages? I know some people who would unironically be up for that.

[Anonymous No.6508382]

>>6506724
The human experience is valued
The AI experience is a derivation of the achievements of humanity, scraped and copied, rehashed with despisers and directed loosely by a line of text with hacked together tags in a desperate attempt to assert the control taken for granted by even a /beg/ artist.