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6457983 No.6457983 [Reply] [Original]

This shit is getting ridiculous.
More reasons to pirate software.

>> No.6457987

>>6457983
I wonder if it’s recording strokes. That’s all i’m worried about.

>> No.6457989

>>6457983
Who the hell is still using Adobe shit in 2023?
There's better alternatives for everything.

>> No.6457997

Why can't we ban AI shit already? There's no way this shit remains legal.

>> No.6458015

They're vague about what they're talking about - do they mean they're analyzing the data of actual images created and the associated processes, or just functions used? Sucking up everything you make as input for Adobe's image shitter would be a huge problem and open them up for lawsuits (you can scream fair use as much as you want, but you can bet your ass that any sizable illustration/GD/animation/game company would stop using Adobe products and file a lawsuit if they found that Adobe was processing their images to be used as data for their competing product). If it's not looking at the actual image and just analyzing things like which functions tend to be used together and crash reports, then it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

>> No.6458020

>>6457983
serious question. if im connected to wifi and using open source paint program. are they collecting the data? and what are the odds, computer savy people are able to take screen shots of another computers window?

>> No.6458026

>>6457983
Didn't one of the Adobe suits come out on facebook saying he hated AI shit? I'm pretty sure it was screenshotted and posted here. They use content analysis to spy on how people use their software, but it's not necessarily linked to image-gen AI.

>>6458020
They can't screenshot unless they RAT your pc with malware, which is illegal I believe. If it's open source, this kind of stuff would be easily detectable by looking at the code on github and they'd be called out for it quickly.

>> No.6458040

>>6457983
The other thing is too. I don't exactly claim any of the art I make. I don't have much attachment to it, although I enjoy creating art. Would it be theft if someone was mining my data? Yeah, but they're not stealing from me. haha

>> No.6458053

>>6458026
>Didn't one of the Adobe suits come out on facebook saying he hated AI shit? I'm pretty sure it was screenshotted and posted here. They use content analysis to spy on how people use their software, but it's not necessarily linked to image-gen AI.
one thing is saying shit another is doing shit
plus, companies use Adobe not pirated software, so stealing any kind of data like this is very close to lawsuit territory

>> No.6458054
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6458054

>>6457983
So this is what democratizing art looks like?
Your art program automatically sells your artwork and art process to megacorperations?

>> No.6458069

>>6457983
>adds firewall blocker

>> No.6458079
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6458079

>>6457983
if nobody got me, i know my dude m0nkrus got me. fuck adobe (still going to use PS tho fuck that chinkass CSP)

>> No.6458080

>>6458053
This may surprise you but even CEO don't gave much power compare to the board members

>> No.6458118
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6458118

>>6458054
kek, this isn't a good start to 2023

>> No.6458127

>>6458054
Everybody makes money from your art but you, the artist, and if you complain about it, you're into art for the wrong reasons

>> No.6458147

>>6458054
all this time those conspiracy schizos were right

>> No.6458149

>>6458054
>Your art program
>Your
lol no, you don't own software anymore

>> No.6458150

>>6457983
Just use Krita.

>> No.6458186
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6458186

>>6457983

>> No.6458208

Years ago, I bought a copy of PS7, and an upgrade to CS. Then, not too long after that, I upgraded to a new computer and tried to reinstall PS. The key had been invalidated, and when I called them they basically told me to get fucked and buy a newer copy.
This is why to this day I still use a pirated version of CS2. Fuck Adobe.

>> No.6458218

>>6458186
10/10 cute maskot
nakadashi

>> No.6458234

>falling for the Adobe jew
lol

>> No.6458235

>>6458186
Tan is that you?

>> No.6458240

>>6457983
Is this the new Russian shill culture wars B8 thread general?

First for Vladimir Putin is the most prolific child rapist alive today.
>>6457997
Post passport statist fagit

First

>> No.6458253

>>6458240
You really think somebody will dox themselves just to prove they're American?

>> No.6458258

>>6458253
A: sure lol I’ve done it tons o times.
B: almost like niggers like you exist to threaten anyone that proves they’re not a nigger that you’ll harass and dox them.

You’ll never prove you’re a sniveling piece of shit foreign invader because you are.

>> No.6458263

>>6458258
>cries about lack of anonymity
>gloats about doxing himself

>> No.6458268

I stopped using Photoshop years ago, but I think CSP wanted to do something similar, anyway.
There is no escaping it unless you pirate everything.

>> No.6458270

one day doxxing won't matter. haha we'll all be frens..r-right?

>> No.6458271

Use gimp or Krita.

>> No.6458275

>>6458263
>continues to act like a disingenuous faggot spouting meaningless easily translated talking points
>to whatabout away from the unambiguous reality that you’re a malignant foreign shill
Not hard Ivan. Even posting work would prove you’re not a bad faith piece of shit but we both know that’s even less likely than you having a western passport ya talentless chimp cunt

>> No.6458439

>>6458026
He already deleted his account https://twitter.com/Sakeozo/status/1610395992108457984
>>6458015
You know that adobe is implementing their own AI tools right?

>> No.6458481
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6458481

>>6457983
>fat autist tells you to not trust proprietary software
>photoshop == proprietary software
>no way to know what is going on in the background
>we LITERALLY warned you faggots
>artists when their proprietary software steals their work:
i hate artists so fucking much

>> No.6458539

>>6457983
So I'm guessing this is a paypiggie-exclusive problem, since I have no idea what an "Adobe account" is.

>> No.6458549
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6458549

>>6457983
I smell a lawsuit. This reeks of antitrust, copyright, & IP violations.

>>6457987
I'm certain it's CCP glowniggers since Adobe has some Chinese influence built within their software. Even though China banned AI art to the public, that's not stopping CCP spies from gaining access to your art, tools, etc.

Pic-related. Stop storing your shit on their cloud.

>> No.6458555

>>6457983
If you pirate photoshop, this doesn't apply to you... right?

>> No.6458576

>>6458555
CCP chinks must have some kind of backdoor that allows them to access your data. At this point, I wouldn't even pirate it. I would stop using it all together.

>> No.6458585

>>6458555
nope, only to those who use legit Adobe tools
which means companies
which means Adobe scrapping company data

Ai is gonna create some fun lawsuits in the near future

>> No.6458787

glad i never tried learning anything other than sai

>> No.6458808

does this apply to cs6 or is it mostly for adobe cloud cucks?

can’t see how they’d get my data from a program that can operate offline.

>> No.6458871

>>6458808
I dont think so. cs6 was stand alone and not subscription.

>> No.6458876

>>6458054
capitalism

>> No.6458885

>>6457983
daily reminder that's it's perfectly fine and ok to pirate adobe products

anyone got kyle kikster's lasso tool yet?

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6458906

>>6458481
Came itt to post this. Good thing /g/ showed me the light of software freedom years before I ever thought of drawing.

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6458915

>>6457983
constant software update and subscriptions were mistake either way

>> No.6458918

>>6457983
Well, people may hate artists and simply don’t care about their rights, but I’m glad to see the public isn’t really liking some other kind of full autonomous AIs like the AI Vtuber Neuro-Sama. It’s getting nice numbers, but mostly by neo-nazis trying to crate their new fuhrer. People in general are seeing this kind of dehumanization as something atrocious and disgusting, they say there’s no reason to watch a live if they aren’t connecting to another human.

>> No.6458930

>>6458918
Sounds like copium

>> No.6458935

>>6458918
People will hate it but the pro AI crowd will attack them and call them luddites to pressure them to go along with it.

>> No.6458939

>>6458481
peka peka

>> No.6459069

>>6458918
I'd hope people would still be grounded enough to want to interact with other people when they're seeking interaction as opposed to talking to robots. Even 4chan autismos realize the value in communicating with people, otherwise they wouldn't be posting on 4chan.

>> No.6459071 [DELETED] 

If you are aggressively against AI art.
You are stupid, replaceable, and can't draw well.

That's it. That's all there is.

>> No.6459075

>>6459071
Nah, I just don't want people using my art as part of their programs.

>> No.6459078

>>6459075
What have you been doing to avoid people looking at your art and copying it? Surely you don't post your art on the internet then?

I seriously doubt anyone would use your art intentionally given the choice. Make sure to put a big fruity signature in the middle as well /beg/let

>> No.6459091

>>6459078
>the braindead "people copying your work is the same as using it as input data for a program" argument again, for the 1000th time
Have you tried firing up ChatGPT to write better analogies for you? I'm sure it would do better than what you're bringing to the table.

>> No.6459095

>>6459091
you suck cocks and love it. Thats what GPT told me anyway.

stay pissing and screaming about AI, you were never a valuable artist in the first place.

>> No.6459109

>>6459071
Greg Rutowski and Holly Niedert can't draw?

>> No.6459113

>>6459071
>aggressively

Agreed. There are reasons to be against it, but ai will never become a competition for the dedicated artist who loves drawing.

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6459209

>>6457983
Of course Adobe's CEO is a poo. He's also on the board of directors for Pfizer of all things.

>> No.6459225

>>6459071
Everyone that is moral should be strongly agaisnt it.

>> No.6459229

>>6459225
you are like 14 years old

>> No.6459267

Autodesk used to send around shills who would tell studios anything made using blender was legally free and anyone would be able to use it for commercial purposes and they would need to make art assets publicly available.
Turns out it was actually Adobe doing it.

Though, that gives me a fresh new suspicion. Can someone post Autodesk's EULA or whatever for their 3D packages just in case they're the ones feeding AI 3D generators?

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6459342

>>6457983
Ron Swanson was right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xn1rO1oQmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STrQuUsNpf0

>> No.6459363

>>6457983
Yeah I'm still sticking to my old SAI.
>>6458918
This machine vtuber shit is so depressing. Why even watch it, it's pathetic. Tech chuds watched Blade Runner and were like OMG! What an aesthetic dystopian shithole! I want our world to be just like this!!!

>> No.6459372

>>6459071
There are non-artists who are also sick of seeing it. Eat a dick and choke on it.

>> No.6459379

>>6458871
kek cs6 chads can’t stop winning.

>> No.6459380

Based. Fuck digitalcrabs.

>> No.6459474

>>6457983
>paying for adobe products
Lol top lmao

>> No.6459505

>>6458054
drawslaves wasn't just a meme

>> No.6459511

>>6459505
You're right, it's a forced one.

>> No.6459940

>>6459071
Cope & seethe, AI shitter. You will never be a real artist.

>> No.6459943 [DELETED] 

>>6459940
It’s funny because neither will you lmao.
PYW.

>> No.6459945

>>6459943
>AInigger thinks he can do the whole "pyw" shit
How about you post yours mr.AIcel

>> No.6459946
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6459946

>>6459209
Anytime a pajeet is in any position of power, things go to shit real fast. Look what happened to Microsoft as an example. After Windows 7's release, a pajeet CEO was put in charge. What happened afterwards, Windows 8-11 was released. The worst Windows OSs of all time. The pajeet CEO hired other pajeets to make those OSs & here we are.

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6459954

>>6459943
Pathetic AI shitters don't understand what img2img is. It literally copies someone else's work.

>> No.6459959

>>6457989
Anyone professionally employed, as the world needs a common program to collaborate with and photoshop is it. Adobe knows it too, why else do you figure they’re priced out of range for hobbyists despite being worse than plenty of competitors?

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>>6459945
Randomly selected playing spin the wheel with the library
Also technically I only said >>6459943

>>6459954
Who cares? I use other people’s shit constantly.

>> No.6459970

>>6458054
Democracy is a lie in first place - mass media selling opinions to the masses. Democratizing is merely an extension of the lie.

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6459972

Like are y’all bozos paying for tv and stuff too?

Is there any violations of a bunch of corpostatist IP laws that you consoomers aren’t like obsessed with getting cucked by?

>> No.6459973 [DELETED] 

>>6459970
Posted from some post Soviet shithole.

>> No.6459986

>>6459973
seethe and cope

>> No.6460004

>>6459229
My guy, your pastime is to go to the artwork and critique board and kick the hornet’s nest for shits and giggles. You hold no values in your posts, they’re vessels by which you insult people in hopes of garnering (You)s. I get that the excuse is it’s “just for funsies”, but honestly, you really shouldn’t be throwing attacks at maturity around. It weakens your impact on the reader when you bring it up, as you’re drawing attention to your own maturity. If you want to troll, avoid landmines like these that allow people to write you off as a retard off the bat. Subtlety, and punching down, are key. You cannot attack them with something they can easily turn on you, or they get a foothold for righteous anger, which provides relief. Poke at their helplessness and despair where they can’t retaliate, like a hyena nipping the haunch of a wildebeest. There’s art to this, treat it as such.

>> No.6460010

>>6459963
Bitch lasagna.

>> No.6460016

>>6459209
How do they do it? It's like the jeet is always either some poverty stricken curry mixer or a megacorporate CEO, there's zero in between.

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>>6459986
Literally all you’re capable of doing you mindraped goon.

What’s the suicide rate in your shithole comrade?

>> No.6460163

>>6459071
If you are aggressively pro AI art you don't have internal monologue. You are NPC or scammer.

>> No.6460182
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6460182

>>6459972
Sorry that's not how copyright works, pajeet. Owning something & claiming it as your own are 2 different things. When you buy a DVD from a store, you own the DVD but you don't own the rights of that movie that is on that DVD. You did not create the movie. You did not produce the movie. Your name is not on the credits. Someone else owns the rights to that movie. And if you claim the movie as your own, then your stealing from them.

No one cares if you have a copy of the media. People however do care if they're ideas are taken from them as it's considered thief in most of the world.

You AI shitters take the artwork from others, generate horrendous soulless images, then have the audacity to claim it as your own when you aren't the original creators of such works. This is why AI art cannot be copyrighted or sold in the market. Because all AI art uses copyrighted material that someone else made.

Tl;dr: You will never be a real artist.

>> No.6460187

>>6457983
>people start saying show your process to prove you're not AI
>adobe starts training AI model that can show process
you just can't win

>> No.6460190

>>6460187
It reeks of CCP spying. Betcha Adobe collect telemetry of its users without their consent.

>> No.6460206

>>6457983
That's actually surprising because it's big companies that use Adobe as a standard, that has to breach a lot of legal barriers.

>>6458549

I use USB drives for important files but that's just me being a boomer. I suppose there's some benefits to old school ways.

This whole event is coming to a head quicker than I thought, companies must be scrambling to be the king on top with the most illegally obtained data. Coming from a libertarian soi there needs to be some government intervention soon. They get enough tax dollars to make some shit up to keep undesirables out of the war on misinformation.

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Ok now I'm scared about CCP spying on all my shit. I got important stuff. How do I completely wipe all adobe off my system? All I had was the stupid fresco app my pc came with and didn't even know they had a cloud app installed.

>> No.6460227 [DELETED] 

Ahahaha drawtards on suicide watch yet again
Out of all groups threatened by AI the scribblers are the funniest group to observe due to the absolutely moronic reactions
Please guys, keep it up! We need more AI threads on this board so I get to laugh at your misery!

>> No.6460241

>>6459091
It's a cope and you know it. People benefit off your art if you are good enough regardless if it's a human or AI. By posting your art on the internet, you allow access it to people scraping images for AI training, for people looking for artworks to trace, for people looking to mint some new NFTs, but also to people looking for references to use to improve. They are using your artwork to learn off, stealing YOUR data for their own gain.
I am of opinion we should ban ALL learning off artworks unless given an explicit permission, no machine learning, no human learning, it's all one big data laundering scheme, and humans that recycle your data are as evil as the people who scrape the images for AI

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6460245

>>6460227
ywnbaa

>> No.6460246

>>6460245
Thank god, I wouldn't want to be a subhuman now, would I? I'm glad we agree though

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>>6460246
>techfag tourist upset

>> No.6460252

>>6460250
I'm genuinely happy that you agree with me though friend, I never would want to be in a dying profession

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6460253

>>6460252
>hes still upset
>same one reply

>> No.6460256

>>6460253
What am I upset over? I'm bit confused

>> No.6460257
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6460257

>>6458054
he warned you

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>>6460256

>> No.6460265

>>6458054
eventually someone is going to die over this
its gonna be awesome

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6460270

>>6459209
>He's also on the board of directors for Pfizer of all things.
HOW DEEP DOES THIS THING GO???????????

>> No.6460382

>>6460265
some artist retard will walk into adobe HQ with a pencil as a weapon and then will get shot 24 times to the head by security

>> No.6460385

>>6457983
I pirate it. Not my problem.
I still use cs6.

>> No.6460386

>>6460270
And that was just at the top of his Wikipedia page.

>> No.6460390

>>6460265
Probably Emad
Living in London you half expect to get stabbed by a brown

>> No.6460421

>>6459963
In the foreseeable future. People will care.
If you state that what you made is through AI. You're likely to be ignored like an ad.
If you downright lie and tell everyone that you drew it without AI, you'll get canceled eventually.
Either way, you're shooting yourself in the foot by being a dumbass.

>> No.6460426

>>6460218
Disconnect your rig from the net and buy a new rig dedicated to connecting the internet

>> No.6460452

>>6460421
Yep and if someone accused you of using AI and you managed to prove the opposite, you will get the reverse Streisand effect instead. Pajeets will never get that kind of recognition.

>> No.6460466

>>6460452
I would like an AI to generate me tandoori chicken

>> No.6460648

>>6460016
It's explained in pic related >>6459946

>> No.6460892

Look at this thread with everything but the anonymous ESLs screeching buzzwords at anyone that isn’t being radicalized against AI.

Fascinating how that works. If you’re not an Eastern European shill calling everyone that isn’t a mindless shortsighted retard a pajeet jannies don’t want you here.

Fascinating fascinating stuff.

>> No.6461028

>>6459363
"Chuds" wouldn't yearn for a cyberpunk dystopia if leftoids didnt kill real life.

>> No.6461067

>>6460264
based baj

>> No.6461934

>>6460218
Just don't store your work on the their cloud. Simple as.

>> No.6461947

>>6459267
Yes, very suspicious indeed.

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6463228

>>6457983
>Adobe: "DON'T PIRATE OUR SOFTWARE!"
>Adobe, as well: "Anyways, I'll be scraping your shitheap drawings chuds, get fucked!"

>> No.6463233

>>6457989
Really?
Can i index palettes in CSP and Krita instead of Photoshop now? I use both for spritework or aliased art

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6463241

>>6458186
Sexsexsexsexsex

>> No.6463244

>>6458906
Now redeem yourself again by telling adminship to give AIfags a fucking board.
They are certainly not going to stick at Discord or some dead chan imageboard.