/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6450706]

welcome to the first sunday of 2023
confess your artist sins

[Anonymous No.6450714]

I havent drawn anything since 2022 :(

[Anonymous No.6450716]

>>6450706
I'm really bad at finishing stuff.

[Anonymous No.6450744]

>>6450706
I used to trace and got called out on it in a small group, I was really embarrassed. I think I never traced anything ever since then, and my skill developed really rapidly.

[Anonymous No.6450750]

My only motivation to draw is: I want to be those cool anons you sometimes see in an mmo general that can draw. I want to be complimented and have people beg me for free art. It's been motivating me to draw everyday, so i guess w/e gets me drawing, yeah?

[Anonymous No.6450769]

>>6450750
You described the exact thing that got me into drawing except it was a different general and now I've been into this for nearly 5 years
If it works for motivation, keep doing it
All artists are attentionwhores at heart, right?

[Anonymous No.6450772]

>>6450750
Funny since I never show people I can draw because I don't want them to beg me for free art.

[Anonymous No.6450773]

>>6450716
Me, too! Already started on the next new thing.

[Anonymous No.6450778]

>>6450750
>>6450706
>post fanart in animu general
>anons like the work
>ask if they have any requests
>never finish them
>despite this they still kept posting your art in the threads
>pretend you aren't that anon who drew them and continue posting in general

[Anonymous No.6450780]

>>6450706
i love art in the simple sense and the only reason i invest time to polish drawings is to spite this group of people i used to be friends with and then got ostracized by
im significantly better than most of them now but not all of them, my only motivation is to ruin their server by flaunting my superior art and shame them for underestimating me, to have a shit eating grin as i rub my inevitably superior art in their faces

[Anonymous No.6450781]

>>6450780
it’s the /cbsg/ discord isn’t it

[Anonymous No.6450783]

>>6450781
no its drawpile server pretty obsecure

[Anonymous No.6450787]

>>6450783
you sounded like a spiteful woman so i assumed you were a spawn of /cbsg/

[Anonymous No.6450790]

>>6450787
i have a few issues with the cunts over at cbsg too but they're not the main focus of my spite

[Anonymous No.6450794]

>>6450706
I haven't filled a single sketchbook all year.

[Anonymous No.6450797]

>>6450706
Because of my university exams
I didn't draw like for a week now
And the exams ends in 13 January
Fuck my life

[Anonymous No.6450799]

>>6450787
>>6450790
???? the /cbsg/ server has been overwhelming chill. you have brain problems

[Anonymous No.6450802]

>>6450799
they are chill within the sever but some quite malicious outside it i wont name names but they'll know who im speaking of

[Anonymous No.6450804]

>>6450799
are you on your period, i just made a casual observation based off of that anon’s post and the fact that women generally hate each other.

[Anonymous No.6450806]

>>6450799
nigga damage controlling in a vent thread

[Anonymous No.6450810]

>>6450802
If you’re going to vaguepost on anon you might as well air your dirty laundry, otherwise you just sound stupid and are stirring up shit for no reason.

[Anonymous No.6450815]

>>6450802
kek i believe it. women are so unbearably fake and nasty. my ex would talk mad shit about her friends and then ring them up to hang out the next day.

[Anonymous No.6450834]

I'm not going to try to learn to draw this year and instead sink as much time learning AI technologies for 2D art and 3D tools while maybe rendermaxxing on the side.

[Anonymous No.6450836]

>>6450706
I love ai art

[Anonymous No.6450840]

I'ved 'tried' the drawabox program like three times but I never bothered to get past the initial lines segment. I still come here and shitpost about how I'm a failed artist though.

I fucking hate myself. I wish I could draw. I have so many visual ideas I want to share with others but I don't actually have the motivation to draw them out. I have the motivation to do other things in life, at least recently. I've been eating way better these last few months, I've started exercising regularly, I'm studying for my first semester of college that's starting soon every day. It's just that no matter how much I really want to be able to draw well, I don't fucking enjoy drawing I don't like that shit it doesn't excite me, it doesn't motivate me. I hate that shit. I feel like a fucking worm when I draw something that's shit even though I know it should be shit when I first start out. I just don't care, even if it's a dream of mine to be able to draw well.

I'm repeating myself. It's a complicated feeling.

[Anonymous No.6450874]

>>6450840
How long did you try drawing? Like, really? You won’t get the hang of drawing as a beg for months even if you’re studious, and it takes years to become proficient. Don’t give up so easily.

[Anonymous No.6450951]

>>6450874
a couple days the first and second time, like one training exercise the third.

[Anonymous No.6451041]

>>6450951
Ah, you need to draw more of what you like, anon. Skip the boxes for now and just draw what you like, or draw what you like between boxes. Those are just tools anyway for 3D visualization.

[Anonymous No.6451051]

>>6450706
I'm only doing fundies and bridgman so I can improve my cartoons. I'm not interested in any other art. Sadly my discipline and attention span suck so I get bored of studies within a week. I just want to draw cartoons.

[Anonymous No.6451086]

>>6451041
ok anon I'll do that. I want to draw houses.

[Anonymous No.6451117]

>>6451086
You got this, anon. You can do it!

[Anonymous No.6451122]

>>6451086
You can make a house within 2 minutes in blender.

[Anonymous No.6451132]

>>6450790
>>6450802
You must be the one annoying futafag everyone hates. You don't draw women in a thread whose main goal is to learn how to draw men. Stop being a passive aggressive faggot and draw dickgirls all you want nobody cares, just stop forcing your fetish on people.

[Anonymous No.6451263]

>do (free) art raffle
>guy with a blatant fat fetish character enters
>he's technically not breaking the rules I laid out
>he wins, of course
>just reroll so someone else wins
>feel bad about it

[Anonymous No.6451278]

I find commissions hard to complete. Don't know why, I just get a mental block because I'm trying to make it perfect and then I get too stressed to work on it

[Anonymous No.6451328]

I keep trying to start drawing ever since 2020 but my mind just. Can't. I'm 24, 25 in two months and constantly feel like I've wasted my whole youth even though I have a really good imagination worth putting to paper.

[Anonymous No.6451378]

>>6451328
Life is short. Your 20s are even shorter. Don't waste another year and learn to photobash/AI/Trace, etc. If you really have ideas you'll do just about anything to get those ideas out even if it means doing what /ic/ considers forboden.

[Anonymous No.6451414]

>>6450790
>>6450802
This reeks of one-sided schizo shit and it's extremely pathetic that you're addressing it in an unrelated thread like some shifty whack bitch and not on the server. I swear it's dramafaggots like (You) that make every 4chan discord implode into shit.

[Anonymous No.6451471]

>>6450790

Reveal thineself, foul demon, and posteth thine work!

[Anonymous No.6451482]

>>6450716
is this a bad thing?

[Anonymous No.6451486]

>>6450780
>>6450781
>>6450790
>>6450802
>anon who isn't that good at drawing and has drama following them everywhere they go can't stand it when they aren't the center of attention
Every. Single.Fucking. Time.

[Anonymous No.6451551]

After years of being classically trained and learning human anatomy. Ive started drawing cartoons.

[Anonymous No.6451580]

>>6451378
None of those can clearly represent the stuff I've made in my head. For me, it's the full drawing experience or nothing. Plus, I'd rather shit on ms-paint-tier twitter artists using actual skill than taking a rudimentary shortcut.

[Anonymous No.6451603]

>>6451482
yes

[Anonymous No.6451612]

>took a week off work
>told myself I’d draw during my vacation
>laid in bed and cried for 75% of my time off
gonna kms

[Anonymous No.6451616]

>>6451328
Thats a very common struggle for most artistes. Dont worry anon, keep trying and you'll eventually get there. Every drawing is a step closer. I'm struggling with the same issue. I have this art style I want to do in my head but it still looks rough on paper, but it looks more improved then when I started months ago. Its not close but its getting closer, it does take practice.
You can do it, I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.6451644]

>>6450706
>Make new year's resolution to start posting my work on blogs even if I have to force myself to do it
>Post new work
>Profile names with "Bot" start interacting
>They're all bots
>Start feeling stupid spending any time to even create a blog
>Not even through the first day of the year and already want to delete it

[Anonymous No.6451652]

>>6451644
Dont let that stop you just block the bots

[Anonymous No.6451750]

I've been drawing a little less since starting a new job however my output and gains have remained in good standing. But I've barely been posting on social media at all, when I used to post almost daily sketches and shitpost and whatnot. I know it's not exactly a sin but it's making me feel bad. Social media is just not fun anymore and the last couple of months have felt like a worsening tornado ripping through everything I once knew. I guess what I'm saying is, I just want a no-pressure community that's actually active with fun stuff and none of the bullshit. I have community on /ic/ but I use this place FOR pressure (the good kind.) I've been giving off the impression that I'm on temp hiatus for the holidays but I don't think I can hide behind that excuse for much longer. I simply don't enjoy posting my work online.

[Anonymous No.6451780]

>>6450840
>drawabox
No wonder drawing makes you feel like ass. I can't imagine doing that crap and I've been drawing for years. I don't know if it'll help but I'll lend you some of my advice. Pick your favorite artist you want to draw like and start copying their stuff. Not serious 1:1 studies, just make some shitty doodles with whatever looks cool to you. In my case I just copied Akira panels because I always loved it. I must've copied half the series at some point. After a while I began to understand how Otomo drew figures. I didn't realize then that I was basically just doing figure studies, just not with irl people. Some time later I got confident enough to learn from other artists I admired and got better at copying, then I actually went over the fundies books that everyone pushes on prebegs. I felt like I learned in reverse but there is no wrong way to learning as long as you're making progress. Another piece of advice is to grow some skin and learn to take and LISTEN to advice from your superiors and apply it. Don't assume you know better when someone tells you this shading is inconsistent or this fold doesn't make sense etc.

Point is, while art is practice and hard work, it doesn't mean you can't have fun. Like with working out, you can make fun out of activities.

[Anonymous No.6451830]

>>6450706
I have given up on trying to "get better" by reading books and drawing squares and i just look up a referance and i draw a "template" based on her/him and then i draw clothes and hair on her/him from imagination for 2 reasons 1 is that it just isnt fun and 2 is that i realised it doesnt actually matter look at this for example
The account on the left is 8 months old
57k followers
7k likes on the image uploaded 12 days ago
Account on the right is 6 months old
18 followers
5 likes on a image uploaded 7 days ago
Feel free to explain to me how the account on the left is so much more popular than the account on the right because he can apply the lessons he learned from loomis books to the faces better better,has more accurate proportions etc. and i will get back to reading art books trying to copy the masters.

[Anonymous No.6451834]

>>6451830
Which account postes more frequently and which account responds to comments more? Part of getting more clout is more engagement.
It isn't always about a pretty picture, especially when its some oc. The left account seems to be more humor based and absurd humor too.

[Anonymous No.6451837]

>>6451830
>Feel free to explain to me how the account on the left is so much more popular than the account on the right
probably high contrast easy to "read" images with simple punchlines or other easily connecting emotional point

simplicity that appeals to a broad range of people actually fares better on social media. overrendered stuff by contrast tends to do worse, especially if the rendering itself is the only appeal - unless it is extremelyyy good.
post frequency factors in as well.

[Anonymous No.6451848]

>>6451830
>that comparison
i'm fucking dying, that's hilarious. who gives a shit about likes and followers when someone craps out an alien bird with 6 legs and gets more clout.

[Anonymous No.6451861]

>>6451830
humor doodle chads win again

[Anonymous No.6451879]

>>6450706
I don't finish my pieces and then feel bad about my portfolio.

[Anonymous No.6451882]

>>6451834
>>6451837
But like why should i study art like its math to draw like a "pro" with all the right proportions,rendering etc. maybe after years of torturing myself,trying to copy someone else and kill my soul ill finally open a twitter and get completely ignored by everyone else and someone drawing like a "low beg" gets popular enought to live off his drawings in almost the same time as i have been on twitter because he shits his "low beg" drawings every 2 days while i take a week to finish one?
Like whats the point of learning how to draw like a "pro" when it isnt fun or rewarding?
I have been convinced for too long i needed to draw like a "pro" first before starting so i can be successful when i could have just spent all that time spamming twitter with shitty pokemon drawings with some shitty jokes on them and "Made It" by now...
It feels kinda bad...
Especially since i dont have that much to show for it im like a "very low int" even with hundreds of hours I wasted on trying to become "pro" with books.
It makes me angry that he gets to draw that and have 57k followers when i thought you needed to be good at art to be successful but i understand that the anger isnt really at him its more like im angry at myself...
But im still mad...
I want to punch through my pc monitor but i cant do it because i know i will hurt my hand.
sigh...

[Anonymous No.6451909]

>>6451834
It’s not about posting frequency or replying to comments lol. Did that meme for a year and barely grew. It’s just luck. You go viral or bust. No inbetween. No tricks. No tips. Just luck.

[Anonymous No.6451912]

I find it easier to draw figures when I place a 3D ground plane and draw them on that.

[Anonymous No.6451915]

>>6451909
It's the sad truth. I've had an art piece of mine go viral after somebody else posted it, and even years later it'll get reposted and wind up with a lot of attention.
When I first posted it, barely anybody gave a shit.

[Anonymous No.6451975]

>>6450706
I drew an entire oneshot manga yesterday about ai btfoing emad and janny but today decided not to post it anywhere because admittedly it's a bit amateurish and mean spirited however I do feel better having drawn it.

[Anonymous No.6451977]

>>6451882
Why do you want to draw?

[Anonymous No.6452013]

>>6451882
I honestly believe there's a point where grinding has "diminishing returns" at least when it comes to gaining a following.

[Anonymous No.6452016]

>>6450706
I hate spending more than 1h total on a drawing.

[Anonymous No.6452020]

>>6452016
t. average ic ngmi crab

[Anonymous No.6452079]

>>6451882
This is why I stopped caring too much about the academic side of art. Now I just draw but also do figure studies once in a while. I refuse to grind for hours on end anymore, I don't care that I'm ngmi.

[Anonymous No.6452790]

I found out I make people angry just from the way I type and now I want to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.6452802]

>>6450706
I really enjoy making art using AI

[Anonymous No.6452804]

i dont know how to fucking render because i spent 2-3 years doing anatomy sketches instead

[Anonymous No.6452812]

>>6450706
I traced every drawing I made until I started doing commissions and realized I could get in trouble if I sold literal traces so I delayed my first commission 2 weeks so I could practice some poses and now I have 3x the amount of followers I had. I don't trace anymore though and deleted all my old shit.

[Anonymous No.6453371]

>>6450706
Im paying my rent with AI art.
I have multiple accounts.
I take commisions.
Generate them in AI a few times until i get a nice result.
Take 10 minutes to fix the fingers,eyes etc.
And then get paid 50-100$ per drawing.
Noone has noticed anything yet and im making enought money to not have to work and just do this to pay the bills but it feels kinda dirty to be living off AI art but also i care more about avoiding having to go back to sitting in a grocery store scanning line arguing with rude people all day for less than half the money so i think ill take the dirty feeling.

[Anonymous No.6453379]

>>6450706
Im paying my rent with AI art.
I have multiple accounts.
I take commisions.
Generate them in AI a few times until i get a nice result.
Take 10 minutes to fix the fingers,eyes etc.
And then get paid.
Noone has noticed anything yet and im making enought money to not have to work and just do this to pay the bills but it feels kinda dirty to be living off AI art but also i care more about avoiding having to go back to sitting in a grocery store scanning line arguing with rude people all day for less than half the money so i think ill just take the dirty feeling.

[Anonymous No.6453676]

>>6452804
Same boat, more or less. Only really practiced rendering heads and I haven't practiced in a few months desu

[Anonymous No.6454617]

>>6450706
i think im losing my ability to draw realism

[Anonymous No.6454677]

>>6450706
>finished dawabox in the last year of high school
>stopped drawing for years until i made a do art daily account a few days ago
do i still have the muscle memory or will it be good to go back through the site since it changed from the last time I saw it?

[Anonymous No.6454698]

>>6454677
I dont think u lost anything. I mean drawabox is incredibly basic stuff.

[Anonymous No.6454706]

>>6450706
I use Jazza tutorials because I'm a pre/beg/ and his approach is fairly simple for me.

[Anonymous No.6454709]

>>6450706
Fapped at Tate in London, couldn't handle some artworks there

[Anonymous No.6454787]

>>6451780
i feel your passion anon

[Anonymous No.6454815]

>>6450706
I admit I was mad at first about AI because I felt like it was taking away my opportunity to make it as an artist, but the more I think about it:
>I never wanted to do commission work anyway, since drawing other people’s OCs seemed really boring to me, I’d rather draw my own characters
>I never wanted to draw “flavor of the month” characters, ie whatever Nintendo girl is popular right now, I just want to draw characters I like
>I never wanted to pay attention to numbers on social and obsessing over what stuff gets the most engagement, stressing over likes/retweets takes the joy out of drawing
Etc. Of course, I’d still do a lot of that stuff, just because I wanted to “make it” and not because I actually wanted to draw it. And even with doing that, the truth is the chances of “making it” were always infinitesimally low, so I’ve realized AI never took away my chance, I never had a chance in the first place.
Of course, that doesn’t mean I’m going to quit drawing, since I still enjoy drawing. It just means I can focus now on doing what I want to do, and drawing what I want to draw, and if I can get some income off of that then that’s nice, but I’m not going to go into it with the illusion that I can actually make a career off of it.
In a way, I feel like this is a healthier mentality to approach art anyway.

[Anonymous No.6454903]

i dont draw. I brute force every line over and over unil its passable. I'm just changing the color of some pixels

[Anonymous No.6454940]

>>6454903
If it's something I plan to share, then I do this. Most of the time these brute-forcings only look meaningfully different to myself, and people I show WIPs to don't even seem to notice much of a difference.

[Anonymous No.6454965]

I really just wanna draw cute amputee girls. And clothing.

[Anonymous No.6454973]

I think drawing from the shoulder is largely a meme, outside of quickly sketching your composition on a large canvas.

[Anonymous No.6455088]

>>6450706
I haven’t done any serious art for three and a half years

[Anonymous No.6456264]

>>6450706
i'm not gonna make it, but knowing that others will gives me a semblance of peace

[Anonymous No.6458188]

I draw my OCs having sex with other people's OCs. I don't ask for permission and I won't post them anywhere

[Anonymous No.6458192]

>>6450778
well now they can make that fanart finished or look better thanks to AI !

[Anonymous No.6458219]

>>6458192
What's with all the AI shills lately

[Anonymous No.6458573]

>>6450706
Don't know where else to say this but I've befriended this artist that I regularly followed. They've always had episodes of paranoia but ever since I befriended them, I've found ways to alleviate their worries and cheer them up. I even drew an artwork of one of their most favorite characters and I could tell just how they were in the days that followed. So we've been really hitting it off quite a lot.

Recently though, they were diagnosed of having metastasis cancer...

[Anonymous No.6458590]

>>6450706
I want to be good at drawing but I suck, so I lie to myself constantly that I just need better art supplies instead of admitting I lack fundamental skills.

[Anonymous No.6458637]

>>6450706
ive filled a folder full of sketches of guro art where AI snuffs proompters

im a software dev who also draws and the AI shitters being so ignorant along with AI companies and big tech companies using this tech to fuck society even more makes my blood boil with hatred
this kind of art is a way i found to blow off some steam every time the topic creeps into my mind

[Anonymous No.6458639]

I had someone approach me on Twitter recently to ask me to be their mentor because they love my work. They said they'd bring back 2 drawings for me to critique the next day but never did.

I'm giving him til this weekend, and if he's still empty-handed, then I intend to block him.

[Anonymous No.6458809]

>>6458573
Condolences anon.

[Anonymous No.6458821]

>>6458809
Thanks anon, I want to be strong for them so I'll continue to do my best to cheer them up, maybe even paint some gifts for them. Shit like this really brings things to perspective every time.

[Anonymous No.6458825]

>>6458821
Just being there is the important part. They'll appreciate any gift.

[Anonymous No.6458865]

>>6450706
I never use reference. Even if I did, it's probably just for the design so I can make it accurate. I feel like I could do far better if I just use reference instead of just blindly making strokes until it "looks" right. But I'm too lazy to find and set them up so I never use them.

[Anonymous No.6458881]

>>6450706
I know we're not supposed to covet followers for social media, but this past week I've lost 4 followers.
I have a small following, so it's easy to notice when the number suddenly plummets.
It's not the end of the world, but it still feels like I made some massive stumble in my quest to becoming a true artist.

[Anonymous No.6459079]

I draw a certain rarepair in a dying fandom and I get mad when I get low likes
I know that if it wasn't for the ship then my art would increase its appeal because the times I did my posts were popular but in doing so I'd lose the only content I'm interested in and I'm not willing to do that even if the fandom hates it. But the low likes make me doubt myself and I ask myself if my art is shit

[Anonymous No.6459119]

>>6459079

[Anonymous No.6459186]

>>6458825
Yeah you're right. I'll do my best to stay by their side.

[Anonymous No.6459187]

I'm doing Drawabox digitally

[Anonymous No.6459836]

>>6459187
>I'm doing Drawabox
you could have stopped there

[Anonymous No.6459912]

>>6450706
I spent far too much time painting and next to no time drawing and can barely do any line stuff as a result
I enjoy painting but have to force myself to do lines and feel tired and miserable afterwards because the skill drop is so huge

[Anonymous No.6459925]

>>6458573
i befriended a person and unknowingly became idolized by them and by the time i cut them off they had a mental breakdown or some shit. be careful with who you associated yourselves with anons. i kind of feel bad because it was clear they had emotional trauma but it had to be done.

[Anonymous No.6460553]

>>6453379
Can you give us an example of the level of machine drawing that pays the bills?

[Anonymous No.6460557]

>>6459912
I am the opposite of you. I dont understand paint at all.

[Anonymous No.6460715]

>>6450706
I started selling AI art today.

[Anonymous No.6460735]

>>6450706
Each time I go on this board I feel motivated to do art but then I stumble across some shitposter and just waste all my time shitposting again. I just can't stay away from shitposting fests

[Anonymous No.6460741]

>>6460735
Bantz is an addictive drug. Find a way to channel that energy into your drawing.

[Anonymous No.6460742]

>>6459925
>unknowingly

[Anonymous No.6460746]

>>6450706
I dont draw LMAO DEPRESSION SUCKS

[Anonymous No.6460748]

>>6459925
Unrelated-related to this post.
How do you stop someone from developing a parasocial relationship with you?
I want to build myself up like a brand

[Anonymous No.6460755]

>>6460746
Why is that stopping you?
Draw for fun.

[Anonymous No.6460757]

>>6460755
That is the issue. I dont find it fun anymore. Exception is when im drunk but we all know where that is going.

[Anonymous No.6460760]

>>6460757
whens the last time you found it fun?

[Anonymous No.6460775]

>>6460746
Start with something mundane like scribbling random lines or simple shapes on a paper, then sooner or later you will start producing rough sketches automatically. If you get to that point, make sure to focus on drawing what you enjoy or at least used to enjoy. Depression convinces your brain that everything's too hard to even try, so you have to start with something easy in order to trick yourself into becoming active again

[Anonymous No.6460804]

>>6460757
Are you drawing things you find find to draw?
For example I love drawing monsters and creatures so I can draw them whenever I'm depressed or happy.

[Anonymous No.6460928]

>>6451882
>>6451909
>>6452013
>>6459912
>>6460746
Feeling these hard tonight. Hang in there everyone.

[Anonymous No.6460975]

>>6459925
Fair enough and I hear ya.

Still, I'm happy I became friends with that artist I mentioned but it feels really shitty that our happy friendship had to take such a horrible turn of events.

[Anonymous No.6460976]

>>6460748
Best to keep your answers short. A simple "thank you" from any comments you get are sufficient enough. Anything beyond that and you're looking for more interaction.

[Anonymous No.6461980]

>>6452802
Same, kind of sort of. I like to use Craiyon as a thumbnail generator.

[Anonymous No.6462013]

>>6454965
based amputee enjoyer

[Anonymous No.6462040]

I save AI art and study it.

[Anonymous No.6462164]

I didnt draw anything today. All I did was sit in my chair staring at the ceiling. Everything else takes too much energy

[Anonymous No.6462181]

>>6462164
>He's still at "sitting in a chair" levels of energy and hasn't yet ascended to "lying in bed all day and fixating on his failures during those brief moments of lucidity between naps" tier
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.6462198]

>new year day hits
>instantly get sick
>too tired to draw
>too tired to even play vidya
>do a quick 30 min scribble in sketch book before bed
this year is going to suck.

[Anonymous No.6462830]

>>6451551
me but with pixel art. fuck hyper-rendering in photoshop and glazing layers. I can do it, but it's not fun. I wanna have fun.

[Anonymous No.6463135]

[spoiler]>>6453379
You better have a backup plan
This works for now, but as AI gets easier to generate, you will run out of income

[Anonymous No.6463154]

>Was finishing comms
>"phew, lets take a break and scroool on /ic/
>Same pajeetnigger threads again
>Cant relate to beg vs pajeetniggers
>"Welp, guess back to work then."

>Took a break again
>Remembers that this board is mostly pajeetnigger threads
>Sees this thread
>Post rant
I miss the commission rant threads. I've got a bunch of retarded clients I want to unload

[Anonymous No.6463169]

>>6450706
My crush kept pestering me to see my sketchbook so one day I took a sketchbook tour video of an artist I like and just copied like 10 or so pages in a new sketchbook. My actual sketchbook is as boring and soulless as I am. I have technical ability but no creativity whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.6463236]

>I have the feeling that I am unable to draw without using a reference or Daz Studio
>Lately I've been sketching on the flip side of a comic I did as a teenager; when I scan the sketch, I shred that page (at least I have that old comic digitized)
>I spend most of my time doing commissions and rarely make time to improve my skills or learn new things
>I'm thirty years old and my biggest income (and my family's) is porn commissions
>I very rarely have time to draw stuff for myself

[Anonymous No.6463248]

>>6463236
I mean, at least you're making money from your art

[Anonymous No.6463266]

>>6463154
bee the change in 2023

[Anonymous No.6463813]

if it's not a general I don't even bother anymore

[Anonymous No.6463865]

Been grifting on tik tok for about a year now and it’s going pretty well. Kind of sucks everything is so gimmicky but it’s nice to have an audience that cares primarily about my ocs and interest. I thought maybe the traction I was getting would die down but it never did. My “flops” are still 200 likes and several comments minimum. Most of my posts receive much more attention however, and I don’t seem to receive algorithm punishment for posting infrequently or at strange times.

[Anonymous No.6463896]

i cannot finish anything i draw a semi decent sketch, make a layer below for some color splotches do some general shadows with multiply and move on to the next thing, also haven't touched my sketchbook since christmas

[Anonymous No.6463904]

i spent two years mainly copying other artists for the sketch phase and then if i was feeling spicy i would add some original details but now without looking at other people's work i suck ass and i know if i put in a few months seriously i could get to where i used to be but my ego is killing me hard

[Anonymous No.6464190]

>>6458865
Best place to find them quickly is pinterest, by far. You've just gotta find the right keywords. Once you find something you like, definitely search related results, they're pretty accurate.

Set them up using PureRef. just dump all your images in there and you're gucci in a few seconds.

Don't give up on using references, they're super important for building up your visual library. Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.6465193]

>wanted to take something down because I think it’s a stupid idea and nobody would see it
>someone random likes it the split second I’m about to take it down
Huh.

[Anonymous No.6465306]

I'm only doing short animations/animatics for fun, I know that I have no interest and have no fun in polishing them and yet, I feel bad and a bit shameful when I see others' people nice looking animations.
Jealousy is not healthy but I can't help it.

[Anonymous No.6465345]

I don't have an innate desire to draw. Like, I have to force myself to do it. However, I have this really strong feeling that I want to be able to draw well. I have lots of ideas in my head for things I want to draw and show to others like "hey look, this is what I saw in my head, isn't that cool?" but I don't have the technical skill to make that happen. I want to change that. Again though, I don't actually have this feeling like I need to draw. It's a thing I have to will myself into doing.

It's a confusing state of mind.
Idk what I really want.

[Anonymous No.6465530]

I think I figured out the secret to learning figure drawing and I want to give credit to the AI shills. No, it’s not using AI or cheats but what the shills we’re saying the entire time in their lingo about “feeding data sets”.

If you think about that sentence for a moment a light bulb might go off.

[Anonymous No.6465532]

>>6465530
anon learned how to think critically lmao retard

[Anonymous No.6465557]

>>6465532
Rude. I always think critically.

[Anonymous No.6465939]

My sister is in the hospital and her surgery got pushed back. I fear losing the only person I care about in this world. I feel weak everyone I loved is destroyed by forces out of my control.

[Anonymous No.6465974]

>>6458821
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.

[Anonymous No.6466056]

I'm friends with a smut artist even tho I only draw SFW. I hate them for their art because it's just plain ugly and also because they keep DMing me NSFW prompts even though I hate them. I wanna politely tell them to fuck off

[Anonymous No.6466168]

>>6466056
i feel this one. pornfags are not normal and have zero self awareness. i’m also a sfw artist and befriended some artists who drew porn and sfw, but one day i just got an unsolicited drawing of a poorly drawn twink getting his dick sucked with no context other than i guess their way of greeting me.

i brushed that one off as a genuine autist who didn’t know how to be social, but got a drawing from a different porn artist of cunny with no warning in a casual conversation about anime.

i feel kind of disturbed but also bad for them because it’s almost like the downie kids trying to show their mom their hard work and want some sort of validation for it. or like a woman trying to shit test you to see if you’re trustworthy.

in any case i find it pretty pathetic and i try not to give them too much of a reaction or straight up pretend i didn’t see it to discourage it from happening again. if they worsen, you gotta give them the animal treatment and tell them “no” very clearly and hope they don’t sperg too hard.

[Anonymous No.6466171]

>>6466168
In fairness, if most of their online contacts are other porn artists, swapping NSFW WIPs and the like for critique is pretty normal, so out of habit they might be sending them to you for your artistic input

[Anonymous No.6466173]

>>6466171
i’m used to artists asking for critique rather than just plop their art in front of me with no context out of no where. do pornfags just telepathically communicate that they desire critique in this way? just highly unusual, especially when most artists get very defensive about unsolicited critique.

[Anonymous No.6466497]

>>6465974
Fuck you and your folder full of shittily drawn anime.

[Anonymous No.6466535]

I think I'm wasting a lot a time with what I was going to do and should correct myself now before I waste another year by doing the 2nd plan that I haven't tried yet because of ignorance. I feel like something is telling me "no idiot, stop and do this instead".

[Anonymous No.6466564]

>>6465345
you are me anon, lets just keep willing it until one of us is good

[Anonymous No.6466606]

>>6466168
Pornfags are mostly zoomers or college kids with no real responsibilities. Think of all the stupid shit you did when you were in college. Unfortunately some people dont grow out of it in their mid 20's all the way into their 30's

[Anonymous No.6466616]

>>6466606
Wouldn't it be nice to have no responsibilities even into your golden years? I don't get why this is such a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.6466626]

>>6466606
The pornfag in question is 32

[Anonymous No.6466642]

I make AI art and post it in (You)r favorite generals. So far, no one has seemed to notice.

[Anonymous No.6466652]

>>6466642
Maybe everyone noticed but doesn't want to give it any attention. Why engage a troll and shit up a general?

[Anonymous No.6466930]

>>6466626
there are a lot of really weird deteriorating gross 30+ year olds doing weird and creepy shit with "art" as a guise. it's more common than you think.

[Anonymous No.6466934]

>>6465939
I'm sorry to hear that anon. I'll keep you and your sister in thoughts and prayers.

[Anonymous No.6466966]

>>6466930
Unless you're him, what's your roastbeef with itsu?

[Anonymous No.6467089]

>>6466966

[Anonymous No.6467100]

>>6466966
hypocrites provoke my ire

[Anonymous No.6467101]

Everything i draw feels like a fluke

[Anonymous No.6467119]

>>6466930
>weird
>creepy
>gross
The Arby's is strong with this one.

[Anonymous No.6467131]

>>6466606
I once follower a pornguy who was in his 70's drawing porn of disabled women. Posted frequently too. Then he stopped posting for a 10 months and I unfollowed him because I think he died.

[Anonymous No.6467140]

>>6450706
I suck at drawing and i usually shit on other peoples work that are actually much better than my own to fuck with them which makes me feel better.

[Anonymous No.6467172]

>>6466930
>as a guise
I don't care if people know I'm an old man.

[Anonymous No.6467198]

[Anonymous No.6467223]

>>6466930
This is what happens when you are a genetic failure that didn't get to have a teenage love experience.

[Anonymous No.6467232]

>>6467100
Ah so you are that same anon that made that stealth hate thread against itsuka. I’m connecting some dots here.

[Anonymous No.6467303]

i like to read your guys replies in the server

[Anonymous No.6467311]

>>6467223
I deeply regret wasting my twinkchad genetics during my teenage years by being an obese, self-hating edgelord, almost as much as I regret not pursuing art during high school.

[Anonymous No.6467339]

>>6467232
>itsuka
is that hsi tranny name?

[Anonymous No.6467341]

>>6467311
more carbonated drinks and pizza will most definitely solve this issue im sure of it

[Anonymous No.6467346]

good job ruining a decent thread with personal drama faggots

[Anonymous No.6467353]

>>6466930
>>6466966
>>6467100
>>6467119
>>6467131
>>6467140
>>6467223
>>6467232
>>6467303
>>6467311
>>6467339
>>6467341
>>6467346

[Anonymous No.6467358]

>>6467311
>>6467341

[Anonymous No.6467370]

[Anonymous No.6467375]

>>6467339
Mmm, mmm….mmmm? Mm. Uhm. Hmmmm

[Anonymous No.6467382]

Can you guys take it to discord or something

[Anonymous No.6467388]

>>6467382
I’m not allowed.

[Anonymous No.6467400]

>>6466934
Thank you anon. She got out of surgery fine.

[Anonymous No.6467410]

>>6467382
take it to ur mom's

[Anonymous No.6467591]

>>6451830
i can't understand the one on the left but even though the skill level is significantly lower, it seems much more interesting than animeboy#18372637693

i think most people are tired of seeing that shit, and i'd hate to mention it but the image on the right is (and will probably be seen as that anon shill but fuck it) something an AI can easily shit out and has no soul, it's just a pretty drawing and a display of the artist's skill--which to me, just feels like showing off

[Anonymous No.6467603]

>>6451882
Other anons have answered this question satisfactorily but I wish to illustrate an ideology that has allowed me to understand this phenomenon that you are upset about.

There are three types of people in any skill:
>The Performer
>The Entertainer
>The Teacher

All people who perform a skill will fall into these specific categories. Lets explain each one individually so that you can understand their significance and why it is we the encounter situations that you have described.

>The Performer
This is the person that wants to be "the best." These are people like Kim Jung Gi or the old masters who were really, really good at drawing.
The downside with trying to be a performer however, is that the bar is EXTREMELY high. No one really cares about you unless you perform like the top 1%. Otherwise, you are ignored.
Performers also tend to be the worst teachers and not very entertaining at all.

>The Entertainer
This is what you have encountered. Someone who isn't very good at drawing but makes up for it with their humor and entertaining personality.
They typically will not be very good teachers because they usually are not very good at drawing to begin with.
These will be the people that make the performers envious about their subscribers.
Unrelated to art, NeatMike, who isn't very good at Rocket League, is one of the most popular YouTubers on Rocket League. He is an entertainer and people watch him because he's funny and intersting.

>The Teacher
The teacher will typically be good enough to be impressive but not as good as the performer. While it is common practice for washed-up performers to become teachers, this usually adds to the joke "if they can't do, they teach," and is not what I mean by being a teacher. A real teacher will have the ability to teach those that seem unteachable. It's as if when they explain something, it finally makes sense to that person. They also tend to have a unique ability in creating an effective working environment.

[Anonymous No.6467605]

>>6467603
I meant "effective learning environment" towards the end there.

[Anonymous No.6467645]

>>6467603
Considering adding hybrid builds

>The Joker
Performer+Entertainer. Someone who wants to be the very best but couldn't reach it for whatever reason be it lack of dedication, skill, or simply they dont take drawing seriously. Has skill but not enough to the among the "best." Usually ends as caricaturist or making funny cartoons.

>The Producer
Performer+ Teacher
Rare. They're best in their fields but are almost always surpassed by their mentees. See Salieri. Dr. Dre. Eugène Boudin.

>The Meme
Entertainer+ Teacher.
They can sort of teach and sort of draw. And sometimes they cant. No one knows why. See Proko. Ethan Becker.

[Anonymous No.6467647]

>>6451086
Pick up Perspective Made Easy if you can, anon. It's pretty short and the lessons are really good.

[Anonymous No.6467663]

>>6467645
Proko and Ethan Becker aren't teacher's, they're washed-up performers as mentioned in "The Teacher" section.

The teaching role is the most slandered because it is often seen as a "fallback" for performers and thus we get really shitty teachers who can draw decently but can't teach for shit--this, by the way, is the majority of /ic/ and precisely why you see people on here saying that /beg/s are retarded or stupid or autistic or whatever. It is simply cope for their inability to teach that causes them to call everyone they can't seem to teach retarded.

In reality, a teacher does not think like this. A teacher self-asses and thinks of a new, creative approach to approaching this new difficulty. As you see in /ic/, these people give up the second someone fails to understand their advice and that is NOT how a real teacher approaches teaching. A teacher does not immediately shift the responsibility to the student, he thinks about what he is saying and analyzes his approach so that it best suits the right audience.

We have to make this distinction otherwise we can consider anyone who started a YouTube channel and made a "How to Draw an Eye" tutorial a teacher when they are simply, and most obviously not a teacher. They are performers that defame the teaching profession with their psuedo-understanding of the subject of drawing. It is absolutely disgusting. My mouth fills up with gravel just thinking of these so-called "teachers."

Say what you will about someone like Sycra but he is one of the very few artists I've encountered who actually hyper-analyze drawing which is why he is able to come up with ideas like "iterative drawing" or his most recent "practice trap" video. Those are oftentimes things that good artists believe or do already but typically do not know how to articulate or teach. Someone like Sycra is able to do explain these concepts more clearly so that those who aren't very good at drawing can begin to do these things as well.

[Anonymous No.6467666]

>>6467645
In terms of success, I'd say there are some other forms of "the performer" that don't require somebody to be in the top 1%:
>The Specialist
Might not be the most skilled general performer in the world and their skills falter when they try to branch out, but they're quite good at (and dedicated to) their niche, and develop a following as a result. The passion of their fans can help them have some wider degree of success than one would expect.
>The Workhorse
Quality of their product varies - sometimes they do good things, sometimes junk, but they're always doing something.

[Anonymous No.6467668]

>>6467645
>The Joker
While Entertainers can be very bad at drawing, they can also be very good at drawing as well but they will never be as good as the performers.

>The Producer
Mentors are NOT teachers. I repeat, mentors are NOT teachers.
When I am talking about Teachers, I am talking about the rare kind of teachers, not some random, ass motherfucker that decides he wants to be a teacher.
Any professional artist can teach another up-and-coming artist a thing or two about what they know. Hell, Kim Jung Gi could've brought a really great artist under his wing and taught that kid everything he knew and even if this kid became really good, that DOES NOT make Kim Jung Gi a teacher in the respectable sense. He is simply a mentor.

Mentors have a lower bar than teachers because you never have to hyper-analyze what you are doing to explain in very specific detail to someone who may need that amount of detail. Mentors will typically ONLY teach those who are ALREADY good at what they do but want to reach the next level. Anyone who is really good at what they do can fill this role. You can be the shittiest teacher alive and still be a mentor and your mentees will still be able to benefit. Bring that same person into a classroom full of beginners and they'll fail to teach even the brightest student in the class.

>The Meme
Those are just washed-up performers as I mentioned previously.

[Anonymous No.6467669]

>>6467666
>The Specialist
That would still fall into The Performer.
The Performer doesn't imply that you have to be good at every single aspect of the skill and there is literally no one who is good at every single skill. Everyone has to specialize at some point so this is a bit redundant.
>The Workhorse
I think these are just aspiring Performers. Though I feel like this is over complicating and getting way too specific as well.

The original explanation of the three different people is easier to understand and remember by the acronym:
>P
>E
>T
All these other ones mentioned are really just different variations of these.

[Anonymous No.6467686]

>>6467663
Just because u dont find them to be teachers doesnt mean they arent to others. A preschool teacher is still a teacher even if they have nothing to offer to u.
>>6467668
So I'm curious where would u put guys like Matt Groening, Albert Uderzo, and Andrea del Verrocchio?

[Anonymous No.6467718]

>>6467686
>Just because u dont find them to be teachers doesnt mean they arent to others. A preschool teacher is still a teacher even if they have nothing to offer to u.
The teacher is determinant based on the skill they are trying to teach so this is false equivalency.

In drawing, people like Proko and Ethan Becker would try to consider themselves teachers but they are not.
In teaching little children, if these people have the ability to teach children in a manner in which they can understand then they would be considered teachers in that field.

[Anonymous No.6468301]

I cannot believe Adojewbe changed spark to ""express""" and is making you PAY $10/month for an app that was just free* (with your photoshop sub) for years

[Anonymous No.6469294]

I never crab on people, I dont like it and it's not productive for anyone involved, but for the first time I have a severe urge to crab a specific person on a trannycord server.
Why? Because he does shit like picrel and I really do not like this kind of crap.

I mean, for starters, I figured all this guy is doing is grabbing heads and placing them in that Willendorf body and calling it a day, idk about SFM art, but that is really lame and I think these people are frowned upon in the SFM community (but I dont know for sure). And then then that god forsaken body, why and how is this demanded among coombrains? this bodiy havs zero appeal whatsoever, no silhouettes, no harmony, it's just a fucking landwhale...
Nah, mate, this is way out my niches for me to care on a personal level, it's just a matter of my sense of appeal getting thrown off so hard it manages to annoy me, like I really wish this guy at least took the time to use meaty, but appealing bodies and not a Willendorf landwhale for a body... that and do actually meaningful pieces and not just your average coom, but that's something I got used to.

[Anonymous No.6469296]

I never crab on people, I dont like it and it's not productive for anyone involved, but for the first time I have a severe urge to crab a specific person on a trannycord server.
Why? Because he does shit like picrel and I really do not like this kind of crap.

I mean, for starters, I figured all this guy is doing is grabbing heads of other models and placing them in that Willendorf body and calling it a day, idk about SFM art, but that is really lame and mediocre and I think these people are frowned upon in the SFM community (but I dont know for sure). And then then that god forsaken body, why and how is this demanded among coombrains? this bodies have zero appeal whatsoever, no silhouettes, no harmony, it's just a fucking landwhale...
>inb4 ur just jelus lol
Nah, mate, this is way out my niches for me to care on a personal level, it's just a matter of my sense of appeal getting thrown off so hard it manages to annoy me, like I really wish this guy at least took the time to use meaty, but appealing bodies and not a Willendorf landwhale for a body... that and do actually meaningful pieces and not just your average coom, but that's something I got used to.

[Anonymous No.6469325]

>>6467718
And why arent they teachers? Beckers offers class and lessons on discord so he's pretty much teaching kids. And proko offers them on his site.

[Anonymous No.6469731]

>>6450706
I got into tattooing because it's way easier than being solid enough in the fundies to get a job at some corpo place.

[Anonymous No.6469771]

>>6450706
I can only draw if my autism takes over.

[Anonymous No.6469914]

>>6450706
The main reason I started to draw were selfish ones, I wanted to draw whatever I felt like, almost all animated/drawn media I consume, I'm thinking "how would I do it?", I hardly ever copied known anime/manga characters, if any!
I don't consider myself better than other artists, just someone who can't stand drawing whatever is "in" at the moment, meaning I might draw fanart if I'm inspired enough.