A.I. Predictions?

[Anonymous No.6438897]

Over the course of 2022 A.I. art went from incoherent shit to being able to generate genuine masterpieces in seconds. Where do you expect A.I. art to go in 2023?

[Anonymous No.6438899]

I expect you to catch this SAGE you absolute fucking FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.6438901]

>>6438897
>Went from incoherent shit to being able to generate genuine masterpieces in seconds
It was able to generate masterpieces since start of 2022, you just didnt have access to it. The period of making incoherent shit was 2-5 years ago, people here just didnt care because it was only able to make human faces and nothing else, or dogs really well and nothing else. Style transfer was many many years old. All of this shit was even posted on this board for years, but people ignored it and laughed at it. Even now they are laughing at it because it cant do hands. It was scary 5 years ago, but people always found some cope on it. This board became infested with this shit only once AI researchers let the public use their toys in 2022.

[Anonymous No.6438902]

I'm sure everything will be fine and we have nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.6438906]

>>6438897
Op's image is completely right in spirit.
If ai was ugly nobody would care that it ""steals"" images, it's precisely because it looks good that people need to think up of post-hoc justification to stifle the technology
>Where do you expect A.I. art to go in 2023?
Plateu. They way ai learns is terrible, you need terabytes of very well labeled images, a new breakthrough is needed

[Anonymous No.6438910]

>>6438897
>hourly AI fag seething at people who can actually do something thread
>makes the same threads on /g/ too
>the same images too

[Anonymous No.6438911]

>>6438897
>masterpieces
Just because that's the prompt you used doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous No.6438916]

>>6438911
this could be said for 99% of """artists""". trace others work and then do 5 minutes of (pirated) photoshop

[Anonymous No.6438917]

>>6438906
>They way ai learns is terrible, you need terabytes of very well labeled images
Stable Diffusion is actually unsupervised, but it does need a prompt or description to train the prompt model against iirc. Otherwise it tries to match features against the words in the training prompt

[Anonymous No.6438918]

>>6438897
It isn't because of the artists that corporations use art like that
The dog is barking the wrong tree.

[Anonymous No.6438922]

>>6438916
Yes, yes, you are right. Less then 1% of any media medium can or should be considered a masterpiece. Thats the whole point of masterpieces, its the best of the best of the best. You really underestimate how much artworks is being created every day and how much of it gets forgotten forever while only some of the greatest pieces get to rise up. Cant believe AI fags think the average Deviantart digitalart picture on home page with 500 favourites is a masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.6438924]

>>6438897
It depends on the training and models, I forsee a mix of high parameter models at the same time more efficient ML/AI training.
I think one thing that hasn't be consider is AI ability to determine what is aesthetic vs filling in latent space.
But I don't see that happening without major increases in hardware. Running high perameter models is super taxing.

>>6438906
It's not really the "amount or diversity" of images. Its also how much you train on them. A lot of it is open to subjective artistic thought.

[Anonymous No.6438925]

>>6438897
>genuine masterpieces
Nope.

The people that don't hate Ai art for the data collection issue will get bored of it because it's complete garbage that will soon saturate the market.

[Anonymous No.6438927]

>>6438917
>Otherwise it tries to match features against the words in the training prompt
then it will barely learn anything
>t's not really the "amount or diversity" of images
No, im talking about how well labeled it is, an ai's generator main goal should be to accurately illustrate the prompt. Midjourney AI literally cant draw someone tilting their head down. Why? Obviously because nobody labeled the correct images in the dataset as "tilting head down"

[Anonymous No.6438930]

>>6438906
>They way ai learns is terrible, you need terabytes of very well labeled images, a new breakthrough is needed
How do you think Midjurney images are being made? I think they no longer even use training data from outside, they just feed their models their own best works that get selected by their users. They already automated the process of prompting where you can just write very simple prompt and it will give you beautiful picture, as opposed to Stable Diffusion where you need to write many arbitrary buzzwords only autists who spend hours testing them know about, its not just ((masterpiece)), ((trending on artstation)) and (photorealistic). This is why Midjurney images are really high quality as opposed to anything Stable Diffusion is doing. Most of the "breakthroughs" are already invented in either the past to upgrade the learning data on projects like AlphaGo, or even ChatGPT. Go search up some videos about AI research papers from 2017 or 2019 and take a look at what they are doing and managing to do. Take a look at the thread on this board where people look back at when AI was terrible, you can see archives to 2017 where they made some breakthrough that is now being implemented to further upgrade the images.

But I agree it will plateu very soon, probably already did in lot of cases if you look at >>6438901, its just normies finally getting access to it. It will most likely never be able to make your clown devil femboy with wings that can turn his dick into balloon animal and his head into his dick, one because there is not enough data, two because doing weird and creative stuff would be considered as error, so newer models will not feature it, and three because of the descriptions given to it would not be able to keep up with your character idea. The prompts even to this day are all fairly similar and very limited, you want orc? Ok, here you have what most people would want to get an orc. You can change style, but it will only give you generic orcs.

[Anonymous No.6438931]

>>6438897
>ai will replace menial jobs
>first thing it eliminates is digital art
Makes you think

[Anonymous No.6438933]

>>6438897
In the trash, considering how hard you guys are trying to shill it
You know none really wants it

[Anonymous No.6438936]

>>6438933
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.6438939]

>>6438924
When have artists or any type of creatives ever been for AI? Or any creatives for that matter? Isnt fiction full of either dumb as fuck AIs, or AIs turning the world into absolute shithole if not killing humanity entirely? Like almost any work of fiction where AI is the main subject, it is 99% of the time critique to outright demonization of AI. The only people they can point this out to were article writers talking about automated trucks. This image just highlights that retards invested in American politics can think of nothing but progressives and conservatives, and they are 100% separate groups where every person is the same and they all believe into the same thing. The most artists did was laugh at AI research trying to make images 3 years ago when they all looked like shit.

[Anonymous No.6438942]

>>6438939
Seethe, digital art is dead

[Anonymous No.6438947]

>>6438936
>TikTok
You have to be 18 to post on this website

[Anonymous No.6438948]

>>6438942
Still more alive than trad shit

[Anonymous No.6438953]

>>6438942
Still does not refute my point. Artists were not for AI, or strongly against it until now. They had the opinion of AI that almost anybody else has now, if not more negative because of all the media criticizing it. Seriously find me five pieces of media where AI is the major plotpoint and is depicted as positive thing. Also, artists were not the ones saying menial jobs will be automated the first, it was article writers that have been competing with GPT-3 for more then 2 years, and are still largely employed.

[Anonymous No.6438956]

>>6438899
fpbp
OP is a either a bot or a paid shill that crossposts the same shit on many boards
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/409588371/
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/178318249/
I suspect that many of the responses here are from some gpt generator as well

[Anonymous No.6438958]

>>6438930
that explains why everything generated by midjourney has a "style" and why it cant generate simple fucking things like "portrait of a person tilting their head down". Midjourney has the weakest range and capabilities. It proves that a feedback loop is useless
You NEED OUTSIDE DATA, basic entropy people.

[Anonymous No.6438961]

>>6438927
Label has a specific meaning in ML. It's a term used in supervised learning to strongly associate a word or phrase with the input data. You're manually training a specific pattern into the model. What SD is doing is letting the model engine find image and text patterns and match them together on its own. The training prompts are already not well labeled, seeing as how they're long jumbles of random tags from art repositories. The entire point is that SD matches image patterns it discovers to patterns in the matching prompts. It's even likely that SD has a cluster of data in its latent space for heads that are tilted down, but the text model doesn't have it because the input data didn't have it. Supervised learning probably wouldn't be able to do what SD does

[Anonymous No.6438972]

>>6438924
This take pisses me off so much when I’m an artist who has advocated even years ago to ban self-driving vehicles to protect trucker jobs, as well as heavily regulate AI due to its potential threat to humanity.
Yeah, I never expected AI would be able to do art, but all things considered that just means it’s even more dangerous- for everyone - than I imagined. I used to think it had limitations, and I was scared of it then. Now I know it can do anything, imagine how terrifying that is now.
This technology is a threat to humanity. If it doesn’t erase us physically it will erase our spirit.

[Anonymous No.6438974]

>>6438897
I really don't think corporate memphis is that ugly. A bit bland, maybe, but ugly?

[Anonymous No.6438984]

>>6438972
I advocated for over a decade for people to abandon digital illustration for real painting because I knew it would collapse in on itself one day and nobody listened. The bubble finally burst and people are acting like nobody could have foreseen it

[Anonymous No.6438985]

>>6438972
Trucking is literally the first job you should automate if you want to move closer to post scarcity. Transportation of goods is the biggest bottleneck in supply chains

[Anonymous No.6438989]

>>6438985
it's not the result of a lack of truckers

[Anonymous No.6438993]

>>6438989
It literally is
>m-muh pay
Don't care. If you want more transportation it has to be cheaper, more available, and more reliable. Humans are incapable of fulfilling those needs.

[Anonymous No.6438994]

these are the same people who wouldve resorted to the google corporate artstyle without ai
now that they have a new holy cow they're throwing the old one under the bus
AIcucks are truly the jews of artistry
goes without saying but sage em bois

[Anonymous No.6438996]

>>6438985
lets the globalization be halted by the bottleneck
we dont need more inter-dependant economies
we're already teethering on the edge of an economic crash and with covid fucking everything sideways i see no better argument for why countries should not rely on a globalist supplychain for everything

[Anonymous No.6439004]

>>6438897
That it plateaus and much like NFTs, the spotlight for it dies out and people generally lose interesting/get bored of it.

[Anonymous No.6439005]

>AI will get better
>Bigger models appear
>Need bigger GPU to keep up or rent servers
>AI "artists" eventually priced out of the best quality
>Capitalism win again

[Anonymous No.6439010]

>>6439005
Will ai shitters rise up gpu prices again?

[Anonymous No.6439012]

>>6439004
NFTs were dumb the moment they came on light. People using NFTs were bullied and called retarded by the entire internet since the day one. AI art is being called soulless, but everyone is seeing its powers and capabilities. AI is not a fad, not even close to being one.

[Anonymous No.6439013]

>>6438897
>imagine on the left is only possible because someone took drawings from an artist and put it in an algorithm
>artists whose shit got stolen complains
>retarded prompter tries to play the jew Kabal card
The nigga who made that post has to be brain dead

[Anonymous No.6439014]

>>6438961
>What SD is doing is letting the model engine find image and text patterns and match them together on its own
and how does it know how to do that? By learning from hard data provided by humans in datasets about text-image associations
You need raw useful data

[Anonymous No.6439015]

>>6439004
AI is the future of illustration and entertainment. Get into fine arts

[Anonymous No.6439018]

>>6438927

[Anonymous No.6439019]

>>6438996
It's literally the biggest bottleneck in the US and north america alone retard. it takes a lot of trucks to keep basic goods like food and lumber supplied to everyone

[Anonymous No.6439022]

>>6439010
Already are. Once VRAM doubles with tech like GGDR6W and gets shoved into a GPU then AI fans will be buying up that shit hard. Then FP8 with the 5k series and they'll be another rush for new cards.

[Anonymous No.6439023]

>>6439018
impressive, i was unable to generate it with the same bot just a few days ago, i wonder what changed

[Anonymous No.6439024]

>>6439015

[Anonymous No.6439028]

I hate the antichrist,I hate the antichrist,I hate the antichrist, I hate the antichrist,I hate the antichrist,I hate the antichrist

[Anonymous No.6439034]

>>6439012
People made a lot of money with nfts tho

[Anonymous No.6439037]

>>6438984
weren't you doing oil paintings from ai reference?

[Anonymous No.6439039]

>>6438993
>>6438985
Automating truckers helps literally nobody aside from the company owners in short term when they save some pennies on truck driver. Trucks still cost insane amount because they are huge vehicles, they are slow, they need lot of oil, and the trucker there is not even close to being the elimination of scaling. If you wanted better transportation, then you would build trains like every other country aside from US does.

This is the same as saying self checkouts are better then human clerks. They are not in any way. They are not even automation, since they just make the customer do the work of the clerk, and they are not even good for the business in lot of circumstances because it makes shoplifting far easier. Only benefit it has is you not paying clerk to do it, and this works for most of AI automation, or automation outside of factories in current age. We already automated all the menial jobs that are too stupid to require human, and where machine could perform far better in quality. Now we are just automating people out of jobs for inferior results just to save money, which is why the implementation of said automation is taking so fucking long in almost all parts of the economy.

AI is bad, always was bad and always will be bad. Artists were ironically the most redpilled group out there when it comes to AI, because all of media made by artists that has AI as its main subject was negative. It was all about how inhumane AI is, how automating everything is a bad thing and will crush our souls. If you went to 2010 and asked 200 artists and 200 truckers about their opinions on AI, I bet you artists would give you more negative answers then any demographic out there, maybe except philosophers.
>>6438972 is what most artists who knew about AI research were saying, just like me. >>6438924 is once again retards convincing people that just because leftists are for automation, and artists are more likely to be on left, that artists are for automation

[Anonymous No.6439040]

>>6438956
He got called out many times

[Anonymous No.6439041]

>>6439023
You didnt add "--v 4" at the end. If you dont add "--v 4" at the end, then it will use model that is almost 4 months old

[Anonymous No.6439043]

>>6439037
Use your brain and figure out the difference. Digital art is dead it’s over anon

[Anonymous No.6439044]

>>6439043
sorry, I'm not a mind reader, can you spell it out for me?

[Anonymous No.6439048]

>>6439044
AI gives painters work to do, it does the work for digital artists. It’s over

[Anonymous No.6439053]

>>6439012
Talking out your ass when it first started. None of those monkey looking shits and the like appeared till later, that's when it especially became a fucking joke. Before that, existing artists just took their previous work they made and turned them into NFTs.

On AI, I'm just basing this on my own experience using these programs, it's fun seeing what it tries to shit out from whatever prompt I tried to imagine. But eventually you get tired using it because your imagination has been immediately satisfied. I don't see why the average fuck could get tired of it too after awhile.

I'm gonna sound preachy here, but maybe these people that support ai should instead appreciate what an artist could come up with based on their own imaginations (assuming they're good to begin with in this case), taking the time, the effort, the fucking process of making art as opposed to instantly gratifying their wants. Like, you should even commend begs for even trying to draw instead of using ai. In regards to companies using it, idk guess that really is fucked.

>>6439015
I suppose, but what about comics/manga? Surely, right now, ai by itself isn't entirely competent enough to make something coherent to read.

[Anonymous No.6439055]

>>6439053
There’s no functional difference between the jpegs the AI produces and the jpegs a human produces. That’s the problem.

[Anonymous No.6439056]

>>6439048
you kinda sound like an art cuck, ai gets to do all the creativity and you just do the manual labor

[Anonymous No.6439057]

>>6439048
Tradfags are in this way similar to prompters. They say they are the future because digital art is being automated, while at the same time being automated way sooner then the digital artists themselves. Yeah, tell me how irreplaceable you are when literally all you do is move your hand with paintbrush to mimic picture in front of you. You fags were already largely automated by camera, and relied on your fantasy and artstyle to survive in post-camera world. Then most of the people with style and creativity went into digital, and now that AI can replace the style and creativity part, you have nothing to offer. The grunt work of art was already automated when digital appeared, now the creative and intellectual aspect of art was automated as well.

[Anonymous No.6439058]

>>6439056
Or I could walk outside my door and paint that too, I can do whatever the fuck I want with my art anon. Keep coping, fake art has finally died

[Anonymous No.6439059]

>>6438897
>DA JOO FEAWS DA AYE EYE AWTIST >:3
What kind of bizarro world astroturfing bullshit is this? It's so blatant that it might as well be an image of Steve Buscemi Sieg Heil-ing in a Nazi uniform with a caption in Impact font saying "HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW ALT-RIGHTERS?"
This shilling and astroturfing is... just so fucking bizarre. Do they think ANYONE actually buys this shit?
>>6439010
As always, gamers are the minority that always gets marginalized and persecuted by the tech grifters. GAMERS RISE UP

[Anonymous No.6439063]

>>6439057
Nice art history LARP, I feel like you get all your information from comic books and video games. Maybe read a book? You have plenty of time now that AI made your hobby obsolete

[Anonymous No.6439065]

>>6438897
For the first time we have a new tech that makes getting an intended result harder. Why AI shills ignore this so much?

[Anonymous No.6439066]

>>6439059
>As always, gamers are the minority that always gets marginalized and persecuted by the tech grifters. GAMERS RISE UP
Gamers get grifted on cause they are weak and feeble escapismMaxxers. Parasites feed on weak people.

[Anonymous No.6439068]

>>6439065
Because the shitposters don't even use the thing, they keep posting the same stuff ad nauseam

[Anonymous No.6439071]

>>6439055
There is difference in creativity. If you ever used these programs and worked for quite a while with them trying to get what you want and learning how to prompt properly, you would find out that the more you prompt, the more you are just trying to get the program to do what it does best. You write only one sentence basic prompt like "tiger in a jungle with waterfall behind it", and then when you try to work more with it, you will not convince the AI to make the picture more like in your head, you will make it produce pic with better style, less artefacts and so on. You are still however stifling your imagination, it is the imagination of the machine, not yours, you are changing the prompt not to get what you want, but to get what the machine wants better.

This thing either becomes a fad that nobody will use in 5 years, or it will MURDER creativity itself. You have fun creative story to tell? To bad nigger, AI can do it better and nobody will ever want to listen to it.

[Anonymous No.6439072]

>>6439010
AI research is already making PC gaming impossible. All the computer parts manufacturers are heavily invested in AI research and will produce more and more parts specifically made to train Neural Networks and run Neural Networks better. You wont just no longer have any drawing, but also no more gaming.

[Anonymous No.6439073]

>>6439071
This is all assuming the end goal of your AI prompts is just to create a jpeg that you like, but if youre trying to create an image to turn into a physical painting… I’m not sure why this needs explaining. You still have to make the painting. It’s actual labor and materials youre dedicating to an AI image so why wouldn’t you make sure it was one you actually like.

That’s why this kills digital because it produces the exact same product as a digital artist. Your jpeg is the same as the AI’s jpeg. It’s like buying handmade toilet paper for $150 over factory made toilet paper. You’re still just going to wipe your ass with it

[Anonymous No.6439075]

>>6438897
I predict progress to stall soon, AI art (aka automatic image compositing) works the same way as GPT-3, it accesses data that fits certain criteria and strings it together. There's been a lot of advancements in how the compositing functions but it still isn't "intelligent" in any meaningful way. It doesn't "know" or "understand" what you're asking it to do, so it will continue struggling the more specific you try to get. The type of art it's good at replicating was already *AI art* in the sense that it's the most sovlless form of algorithmcore a human could make.

[Anonymous No.6439080]

>>6439073
>it produces the exact same product as a digital artist. Your jpeg is the same as the AI’s jpeg.
Thanks for outing yourself as an actual sd shill. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt instead of just assuming you have brain damage.

[Anonymous No.6439081]

>>6439075
Why do you assume these problems wont be solved?

[Anonymous No.6439083]

>>6439071
You're arguing with a transhumanist reddit troon. They don't believe in God and they actually don't see any difference between man and machine. Entertaining them is pointless.

[Anonymous No.6439084]

>>6439075
Artists dont fear AI will become better then them in every way. Artists fear that normies would think AI becomes better then them in any meaningful way. Normies dont care about cubes, or about the fact that the AI does not put the wizard on top of the tower and puts him rather bellow the tower, they care that their picture of wizard gets dont faster and cheaper then commission, and that it is pretty picture to look at, so no more followers on social media to look at your art. All you can do is bitch about AI in your home about how it cant do what you want precisely, all while literally nobody cares about your art anymore. Again, this is not tool for artists, or for anyone to be frank, it is artist replacier, replacing the creativity, skill, and ideas of the artist for instant commissions

[Anonymous No.6439086]

>>6439080
It’s over anon, the computer is better at making computer art than you. Cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.6439088]

>>6439083
>man made art
>digital art
Which one

[Anonymous No.6439091]

>>6439084
>it is artist replacier, replacing the creativity, skill, and ideas of the artist for instant commissions
this is true for people with low standards (i.e. RIP Dungeon and Dragons generic fantasy commissions), but others can be incredibly autistic about their OC's and getting all the details right

[Anonymous No.6439094]

>>6439072
Well, money is all it comes down to isn't it? They lost with crypto and now they're scrambling to the next new tech that accomplishes nothing but makes everyone's lives worse.

I want California and all the techies in it to burn in eternal hellfire.

[Anonymous No.6439097]

>>6439083
Does not matter that there is God, or difference between human and machine. It produces generic characters because it learned that generic characters are the correct thing behind the word, and that diverging from the generic is for of artefact. AI orc will forever look like swole gigachad with slightly green skin and fangs from lower jaw, all while being clean shaven. It will never give you Warhammer orc with comically large jaw and Mad Max armor made of scraps unless you made it learn on WH40k images. It will not think of making orcs like pigmen, like how Japanese depict them unless you feed it what Japanese orcs look like, and then prompt it to make you Japanese orcs. If you have pigmen orcs in mind, you will not strangle the pigmen design out of any of those models, yes, I tried with Midjurney and Stable Diffusion to get Hydra Naga character, which is Naga with 4 heads. It cant do her because 4 headed people were thought to the AI to be artefact, and because there are no Nagas with dragon heads in the dataset, something the artist would have given you.

[Anonymous No.6439098]

>>6439075
AI will indeed stall if they keep this full auto, normie pandering, style to just deliver instant gratification instead of the desired results.

Only way to make a "prompt workflow" viable is by using AGI, that way it would understand what we want and most importantly, what it is doing.

I believe they went this route because they didn't want to release a complex and robust toolset for art industry, instead, they went for a dumbed down version to make non-artists feel proud of what they didn't do.

Function should be way more important than a "fancy look", therefore, AI can still be vastly used in the industry if someone notice this oportunity, maybe Adobe?

[Anonymous No.6439099]

>>6439086
That simply wouldn't be true even if I don't draw, since computers can't make anything at all.

[Anonymous No.6439100]

>>6439091
I play DnD, and I cannot get a single monster from any of those AIs. Seriously, who are these people canceling their DnD commissions? Do they just play as nothing but Gimli dwarfs, elf lady archers, orc barbarians and wizards that look identical to Gandalf? How low are these standards? I couldnt get a single one of my characters, or my friends characters from this thing.

[Anonymous No.6439102]

>>6439099
Just proves that everything worth a value was already made, and that all the people now creating shit are just doing nothing but remixes with no creativity involved. You cant be creative if everything was already made and everything ever needed can be made trough just combining existing things and then fishing them out of interpolation space between them.

[Anonymous No.6439104]

>>6439102
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.

Take your shilling to twitter you might have better luck there.

[Anonymous No.6439109]

>>6439100
it seems to mainly be techbro DM's that are trying to impress the other players, judging by the chatter on plebbit, there is even a sub solely dedicated to dnd ai stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/dndai/

[Anonymous No.6439110]

>>6439094
Crypto crashing isn't anything new dude, investors are still putting millions into BTC and ETH now that it's down.
There's more adoption for cryptocurrency than before, overall it progressed more further than "lost" anything. If you were a retard who invested in Dogecoin or something, that's your fault and no different than losing money in the stock market.

[Anonymous No.6439111]

>>6439075
>it accesses data that fits certain criteria and strings it together.
that's a funny way of saying gluing pictures together

[Anonymous No.6439115]

>>6439057
>style and creativity is compared to grunt work
you fa/g/s honestly have nothing to offer since more half the time you could be handed and get anything. Yet by pure instinct you head immediately to the lowest common denominator.
Even the slightest need to think immediately has y'all pissing yourselves and asking for fuckin retarded answers for questions that shouldn't even need to be asked

[Anonymous No.6439121]

>>6438897

Guys I saw someone quoting a author speaking agaisnt AI, in which he was explaining how since the rich dont care about humanity, and only about technology, such futuristic hellish trends would be inevitable without great pushback.

Can anyone tell me who this writer is? I didnt saved his name, but would love to read more about it. I wholeheartedly agree.

[Anonymous No.6439126]

>>6439109
I hate how fantasy fans are the most uncreative and unoriginal fucks out there. Fantasy is literally the most creative and open ended genera with the most amount of possibilities and ideas being present, and it is all dominated by the same WoW, early DnD type shit. Everything on that sub is nothing but human portrait wearing armor, or a evil lich with magic glowing energy coming from their chest, or some evil looking goblin.

This is the same shit as AIDungeon. I tried using AI DUngeons, but it is unusable garbage. You have only like 300 symbols to describe a race, which is only enough to tell if they are small or have some dumb stereotype. There is no actual fighting system or any rules, you just write your actions and they sometimes work and sometimes dont. Even with CharacterAI or other textbots used for text adventure you can just start out as some lv1 goblin thief, and then the next sentence say you used beam of gods to evaporate the fucking Earth and the AI wont tell you you cant do that. It is extremely bad DM. The only thing it can be not horrible at is making sex dungeons, and even they suck ass because they cant even nail your weird fetish and dont say the things happening there in detail. Not even that, you are the one holding the AI hand, so you cant even get the same kind of enjoyment you get from reading somebody else book.

[Anonymous No.6439128]

>>6439100
sounds like a skill issue if I gotta be honest

[Anonymous No.6439130]

>>6439081
It would basically involve getting a computer program to develop intuitive comprehension, an advance several orders of magnitudes higher than what it's currently doing, which is a form of photobashing. Maybe it will happen one day, but artificial intelligence is not anywhere near "intelligent" yet by a long shot.

>>6439084
Sure, by setting a low bar you can say it's incredibly successful, even if it only approximately gives you something similar to what you asked for (or exactly what you asked for because you made your prompt broad and open-ended enough). It does successfully produce high fidelity images (by cannibalizing existing images). But what a human being is able to do is approach composition meaningfully to create an image, and that will always produce images with a different quality.

There's also a "sameiness" to what a specific AI algorithm produces at the moment. For instance it's immediately apparent what constraints are present in Midjourney when you toy around with it for a while. You very quickly start getting identical compositions and color palettes.

[Anonymous No.6439132]

>>6439111
That's why I called automatic image compositing.

[Anonymous No.6439131]

>>6438984
>>6439043
>>6439048
>>6439058
Oh, shut the fuck up, Cum Fart. The absolute gall of this bitch acting high and mighty sneering at people who use digital art as a medium, while essentially being a xeroxfaggot piece of shit suckling on the teat of the AIntichrist itself.
So, instead of taking hours to digitally fix the slop that the AI shits out you're taking hours to repaint the whole thing instead. In the end you're still using AI slop as a substitute for the staggering lack of imagination inside the windswept cavern of your skull.
You're just the equivalent of that Jono Dry fag who spends months making huge photorealistic graphite drawings mishmashing photographs together, where he's essentially doing what someone with photoshop could do in about an hour or so.

There are countless digital artists that already absolutely mog your ass with their draftsmanship skills and imagination, and they would still mog your ass if they switched to trad because they can do more than copy what's in front of their face like a fucking monkey. Art comes from the mind and soul of the artist, medium be damned, and as far as "real art" goes I'd put yours way down the fucking list right alongside fags on reddit who grid out and copy photographs of Johnny Depp. You don't have a single thing to be proud of, you kitschy, redundant motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.6439133]

>>6439130
>develop intuitive comprehension
Not necessarily, again you are assuming but the reality is we don't know.

[Anonymous No.6439137]

>>6439121
Thats literally every single artist in modern history who knew about AI. Artists have always been opposed to the idea of powerful AI, the most you can say about them is that they were dismissive about the idea of AI taking their jobs early, or that they were optimists who thought humans would stop AI research when it came too far. The word robot was made by artist, and it was used in theatrical play where the entire story was that humans invented mechanical workers that would work for humanity, and then the mechanical workers killed humanity. The word golem was invented in a jewish story about how jews made golem to protect them from goy, but then the golem broke and started destroying everything around itself violently without listening to the master. The entire Cyperpunk genera was created to just say "AI and transhumanism are dumb as shit and will make society complete garbage". Most sci-fi horror when it has AI as the main plotpoint depicts it not just as evil, but as the most evil thing in the goddem universe. I am tired of people saying artists were pro AI before 2022. Maybe some communist troons who wanted to live in automated space gay communism, but thats about it. No real respected famous artists ever portrayed AI as the good guy, or at least portray is as something universally positive where the villain was a luddite.

[Anonymous No.6439139]

>>6438897
>ai shills are scrambling so hard for relevancy that they’re now trying to get the alt right on their side

[Anonymous No.6439142]

>>6438974
It’s become a symbol of corporate globalism
It’s a style used specifically because its it easy to reproduce, recognizable, and inoffensive for the purpose of a global image
What I say to people who bitch about it is learn to draw something better if you hate it

[Anonymous No.6439145]

>>6439075
>>6439098
Needs more Beaks. SD is currently sub-beakage having the brain power of a parrot.

>>6439081
These problems are easily solved from even the most basic of efforts from the prompter.

[Anonymous No.6439146]

>>6439139
Nah, it is techfaggots in general. When the narrative was that menial jobs will be replaced first, eventhough Moravel paradox was already discovered and well documented, they were trying to get leftists on their side while right were the luddites. Now that they are finally replacing intellectual jobs as everyone with good understanding of AI research knew many years ago, they are now just like the rest of bigtech pandering to right. The main selling point of AI to the right is literally just that it makes leftists mad that they lost their job. Thats the only thing they offer to the right.

[Anonymous No.6439147]

>>6439145
Is it just me or is the lighting fucked up

[Anonymous No.6439150]

>>6439145
How?

[Anonymous No.6439151]

>>6439137
I still want to read from that anti-ai author, and any other suggestion will be good for me.

I never had the impression that the creatives liked AI, specially since it is all about generalization.

I also dont really like the idea of mixing being transgender and AI, even if many people conflate that freak show of a concept of "switching genders/bodies" as the ideal solution for ugly fetishists that want to be something else.

I keep seeing androgyny as something so interesting and human, and people that broke away from some of those social constraints always seemed very cool to me.

Unfortunately much of the appeal is lost now, since when people think about those in between, they now think about tik tok freaks, drag queens, feminism and all that trash.

[Anonymous No.6439152]

>>6438972
Honestly anon, just see >>6439075 and >>6439099
Image geneation software doesn't "do art" and can't replace artists as it is, because all it does is mishmash shit from its database together. Oh, it does make it a lot easier for parasites to parasitize, to be sure, now they don't have to expend hardly any effort at all to steal other people's shit and pass it off as their own, but the illusion always falls apart since you can't do anything but rely on what's in the database and you constantly have to tard wrangle the damn thing and fix all of its mistakes. Just like the thieving tracefag and photobashfag rats that came before them that relied entirely on the work of their betters, they can only scuttle around in the dark stealing a bit here and a bit there.

[Anonymous No.6439153]

>>6439142
as a style that almost anyone can do it also lets the power structure gatekeep artists, they can hire any POC transbien they want to make it to parade their wokeness without issues, and replace them just as easily, while AI results in skilled artists fighting for tablescraps

[Anonymous No.6439154]

>>6439147
It's certainly fucked, knew that the moment it generated. There's always going to be issues with AI, it doesn't think in depth and can't conceive how objects continue even when interrupted by an overlapping object. Like a person standing on the beach.

>>6439150
Do you not notice the rough image I drew given to the AI as a base? Upper left

[Anonymous No.6439155]

>>6439145
>>6439150
Nevermind, I see its img2img. Does not count, since all you did is just tell the AI to shade cubes you already drew. You cheated on the test

[Anonymous No.6439156]

>>6439155
>It's cheating to be able to draw and prompt
:3

[Anonymous No.6439163]

I like AI generated art as much as I like people generated art.
I see no conflict.

[Anonymous No.6439164]

>>6439156
The whole point of the colored cube test is to prove that image AI does not understand context at all. It just sees patters and tries to mimic existing images. This is why you need to put (((masterpiece))) and (((trending on artstation))) in every other prompt, because it needs to take the thing associated with good pictures to put into every image, which is basically the essence of good composition and mix of the best artist styles.

[Anonymous No.6439165]

>>6439145
that doesn't solve the problem though, it just circumvents it.

[Anonymous No.6439169]

>>6439164
>>6439165
Images are context as well.

[Anonymous No.6439170]

>>6439152
it doesn't just mishmash shit from its database together and neither of those images suggest that. LDMs are not just autoencoders.

[Anonymous No.6439171]

>>6439170
informed mishmashing is still mishmashing

[Anonymous No.6439174]

>>6439171
but it's not informed or uninformed mishmashing, it doesn't even have a database to work with.

[Anonymous No.6439177]

>>6439145
That's not usable, man, come on. Imagine you need to make a character with a very specific design.

Just look how Zbrush changed 3d art, not because it does everything by itselft, but because it made much easier and faster to perfectly design and refine 3d organic forms.

If you got some grudge against the act of drawing, AI art program still could work without the need of drawing everything, but it certainly needs a lot more control. Imagine controlling the lighting in real time, change textures, colors and everything with all elements already being rendered individually for full control. There could even be an in app 3d tool with mannequins and simple shapes to guide the rendering fo the art and also be interactively editable. There could also be a top/side/back view plane where you could roughly design shapes and let the AI understand better the design of specific details.

Anyway, there are many ways to do this in a much more production oriented fashion.

[Anonymous No.6439182]

>>6439170
LDMs literally are a type of autoencoder you fucking liar.
It's in the fucking name- LATENT DIFFUSION. Diffusion is the method of encoding/decoding, and it's performed on a latent representation of the original data.

[Anonymous No.6439184]

>>6438897
>Where do you expect A.I. art to go in 2023
short (up to 30 second long) animations will be fully solved by AI. at that point, artists using outdated drawing methods will be forced to adapt AI into their work or simply quit drawing and find another means of making income

[Anonymous No.6439185]

>>6438897
Currently it's just a tech demo. The next step is probably integration of AI into image editing software such as Photoshop as a tool which can be more precisely controlled. Similar to Nvidia's Landscape creation tool but more flexible

[Anonymous No.6439186]

>>6439182
learn to read idiot, it's not JUST an autoencoder.

[Anonymous No.6439191]

>>6439184

[Anonymous No.6439192]

>>6439177
Where do you think I stand on AI and art?

[Anonymous No.6439193]

>>6439146
>right were the luddites
You're an oxy-moron. The Luddites were communists, feminists and rebels. We need more Luddites in present times.

[Anonymous No.6439196]

>>6438897
no more entry level creative jobs

[Anonymous No.6439198]

>>6439192
I don't know, I'm just saying that more control empowers creativity and design precision. It can use best of both worlds

[Anonymous No.6439206]

>>6439184
Why would they stop drawing? Couldn't they draw for fun like they used to?

[Anonymous No.6439211]

Stop replying to AI shitposting in threads you morons. 90% of these posts are botted. They post the exact same images and captions with only slight variations in sentence structures and words, for several hours on end.

Notable keywords:
>Any reddit-tier """"slur"""" like drawslave
>False-flagging as an ""artist"" using "us" and "our" and how they will be totally fine giving up
>Doomposting about how you should bow to roko's basilisks
>Suddenly spiraling with dystopian AI god fanfictions
>"X and Y will happen and artists will get BTFO" or any variations of that

GPT-4chan fooled /pol/, don't be like these guys. Keep drawing and move on.

[Anonymous No.6439213]

>>6439186
I know that. I'm aware that it's actually three different algorithms working in tandem, but the autoencoder is the backbone of the program that provides all of the data used to make images. At the end of the day every piece of output from your meme machine is interpolated horseshit.

[Anonymous No.6439214]

>>6439213
not how it works

[Anonymous No.6439217]

>>6438925
I'm trying to take a neutral stance on it. I personally don't think AI will affect diddly squat/change much for artists.
The digital art community is so oversatuarated that I belive in reality AI is one off many things fucking it up at least when it comes to getting a career from it.
Also the corpos fucking artists has been a thing long before AI. People think art is some get rich quick scheme but it's far more nuanced and complicated. I feel like hobby and Trad work will have a great revival.

[Anonymous No.6439219]

>>6439211
I have a new one
>Tabletmanlet

[Anonymous No.6439223]

>>6439211
Drawslave is reference to the satirical article about how "AI bros are bullying artists online". But 4channers took it seriously and made that joke article real.
https://iqfy.com/ai-vs-artist-controversy/
Here it is. Its made up fake woke magazine, but it never writes anywhere it is fake. You just have to read some articles to find it out, it is walking on really thin line between genuine stupidity and ironic stupidity.
https://iqfy.com/women-smell-trans-inclusivity/

[Anonymous No.6439224]

>>6439198
I both draw and play with AI. Gives me an awareness of how limited AI is and how to use it to maximum capacity. Control comes in 2 forms, limiting yourself to text alone is using the AI at the lowest level.

Most people are unaware that the portion of the AI interpreting your text only has 0.8Billion parameters. That's teeny-tiny. It's not going to understand most things, barely understands english to begin with. See image, how it improves as you add more parameters. It's possible a larger model could begin to separate concepts to succeed the cubes/ball test.

>AI art program still could work without the need of drawing everything
Going to disagree, it does need imagery to unlock lot of untapped potential unable to be accessed through text alone. Doesn't need to be good, needs only a rough indication to guide the AI, but these rough indications need to showcase the fundaments of art and understanding of rendering. This is the best chance to make up for the AI's lack of understanding of perspective (AI needs to train on those Vandruff vids) and value work.

I know people talk about 3d mesh mapping with AI and blah blah blah, but this overhead is going not only slow down the process by adding extra steps, also going to hit a ceiling where AI users just don't have the capacity to load the models to begin with.

>>6439217
Where AI could get to the point AI people promise everything will be 'fixed' is going to get incredibly expensive. Going to need some pricey GPUs, $/hr to rent or a rack of them at home. I've laughed as people talk about how they run their GPU's all night just to get the result they want, where I've spent 5 minutes blobbing color on a canvas to get the results I'm aiming for in minutes.

[Anonymous No.6439228]

don't know for sure but I'm looking forward to a race to the bottom, ideally ending up with fiverr brush monkeys touching up AI hands for exposure.

[Anonymous No.6439233]

>>6439214
Choke on piss and die, you diarrhea gargling cum sponge.
Oh, and lest I forget, a merry christmas to you as well.

[Anonymous No.6439238]

>>6439039
My father owns 80% Of a trucking business that I'm going to inherit. They very thought of canning truckers with AI trucks gets me harder then anything I'm the world.
If you have a job or business at risk of automation then you need to start a new plan and get new skills. This is natural selection, the same generational wagies staying poorfags is going to end when they get the rope.
I personally can wait till AI evicts worthless workers and eaters that act so entitled.

[Anonymous No.6439239]

>>6439224
Especially since "moore's law" is now dead, consumers will never get access to these fixed AIs.

[Anonymous No.6439241]

>>6439239
That's a meme spouted by the semi conductor industry particularly from Intel, Nvidia and tsms. All of which are massive highly anti competitive monopolies that our cucked FTC and justice depth has done nothing about.
It's a huge reason why we have massive shortages and production bottlenecks with chips becuase there's litterally one or two choices.

[Anonymous No.6439243]

>>6439224
>I both draw and play with AI.
Me too, I've been trying to "adapt", as tech bros say, but still can't find AI useful because I really need to get specific results most of the time.

As an artist I obviously would prefere to add my own manual inputs, but you know how those guys are against "drawslaves", also some artist seem to hate any kind of assistance at all, so it's hard to find a viable midle ground.

I still believe Adobe is up to something way more interesting than just adding SD as a plugin, maybe by making Photoshop tools AI powered or even making a whole new program that completely revamps how AI art is made, by combining manual inputs, uploading images, many adjustable settings.

[Anonymous No.6439244]

Tourist here. I hate AI as much as the next /ic/fag for various reasons but it makes want to practice drawing. I think you can guide an AI with a good sketch much much better than with just words. Even if the prompt is perfect you still have to deal with a degree of randomness.

[Anonymous No.6439247]

>>6439233
Nah, the largest issue is corporations making all their models close-sourced. Still pricey, but it'll be possible with the next generation of Nvidia, AI prompters will always want more to compete with actual artists.

>by combining manual inputs, uploading images, many adjustable settings.
Welcome to Automatic1111 stable diffusion. Has all that and you can train the model of your own work, or things that pertain to what you're drawing. Embeds, Hypernetworks, Dreambooth, LoRA, Fine-tunes; plenty of room to train on personal style or desired output.

>>6439244
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6439249]

>>6439247
Meant for
>>6439239

[Anonymous No.6439259]

I reckon it'll go like self driving cars. It goes from impossible to getting them up and running in test conditions in a short time, but then getting them on real roads is vastly harder.

[Anonymous No.6439260]

>>6439145
>light makes no sense at all
>not a “sphere”
>not a “cube”
wow so this is the power of the promt?

[Anonymous No.6439261]

>>6439239
Moore's law is dead and also is not.

The current way we make semi-conductors is limited and ending now because we are reaching the physical limits of this tech. We are making conductors that are few atoms small, we can nolonger make it any smaller.

On the other hand we can still go further if we switch from current way of making semiconductors. We can switch from into analog computers, which will not run most programs faster, but it will run AIs much much faster. We can use quantum computers with AIs trained specifically on them. transitioning from our current computers into quantum ones is not easy since they work in different ways on a fundamental level, but we can already make programs there and translate lot of current IT infrastructure there. CPUs nowdays are made for gaming and bitcoin mining, and are in very near future going to be made into AI specified chips that run AI best. There is a lot of room here, but as you said, lot of these solutions will be locked off from the average consumers because they will have to switch so many programs, files on one computer will not work on another and so on. Its like asking everyone to switch from Windows to Linux, but you have to buy whole new computer to run it, and you will not be able to run virtual machine windows there. Consumers will be locked from AI running on their computers for this reason. But at the same time, ChatGPT proved that by filtering the data to only be high quality you can achive better results with smaller models. ChatGPT is better in virtually every way then GPT-3, but at the same time is 100s of times smaller.

[Anonymous No.6439267]

>>6439247
>Has all that and you can train the model of your own work, or things that pertain to what you're drawing
This will never be a good sell unless artists somehow win the lawsuit against AI and rule that using said data for machine training is violation of copyright. If you can put all your drawing into AI to get machine to draw alongside you, then so can anybody else do it. Even if the copyright is ruled out, you will not stop anons from training on your data. NFTs were such a failure because they assumed this same thing. Images are impossible to protect, 100% impossible, since if you can see it, you can also screenshot it.

[Anonymous No.6439270]

>>6439259
ehh, big part of the reason self driving cars are hard is because if something goes wrong it kills people, that's not a problem here.

[Anonymous No.6439271]

>>6438897
>able to generate genuine masterpieces
Name one.

[Anonymous No.6439274]

>>6439267
>If you can put all your drawing into AI to get machine to draw alongside you
Good or bad, it's currently possible to some degree. We've already seen it generate in people's style, they did it to that one recently deceased artists
>https://www.the-sun.com/tech/6628324/art-fans-gi-ai-art-dupes-made-after-death/#

[Anonymous No.6439283]

idk why ai shitters say w eneed to adapt

using 3D models is 100x easier and better as a tool since it allows you to have more control and get the exact image you want and make changes endlessly on a whim

i think the whole "need to adapt" comes from the perspective of someone who cant draw or use 3D software or do anything creative or technical so they think using AI is only thing that can be used lmao

plus this whole AI spam is just the sad sacks on an agenda of spamming thei nternet so stop feeding the bots

[Anonymous No.6439291]

>>6439283
By adopt they mean stop doing art. Art is dead, so you should stop doing it, or do it as a hobby while everyone looks down upon you for drawing worse then AI. Get a job somewhere else kind of adopt, or die because nobody will pay you for art.

[Anonymous No.6439294]

>>6439283
The moment artists adapt to using AI is the moment AI prompters get demolished in comparative quality. Sooner it happens, the sooner these prompters are blown out of the water and are BTFO'd.

[Anonymous No.6439305]

>>6439294
Horseshit. Once you hit the 1 week practice period where you know what weights, steps and certain prompts do, then you pretty much made it. Your pics will look identical to those of the prompters who spend 2 months on SD. The skill ceiling in prompting is really low and your pictures improve significantly more when you upgrade your model rather then when you start learning more stuff.

[Anonymous No.6439310]

>>6439274
that was a fucking terrible article, why did they choose to put in neither Gi's artwork or the ai images copying him?

[Anonymous No.6439333]

>>6439310
The only reason why the shill used an article without pictures was because the Kim Jung Gi dataset fucking sucked ass and just spat out a jumbled, repetitive mess of barely legible scribbles. Imagegen shits the bed whenever you try to get it to do anything more complicated than one or two characters or anything involving any kind of advanced perspective.

[Anonymous No.6439336]

>>6439283
Tracing (from other artists, photos, 3D models, whatever), Photoshopping works of others, collaging, etc have all been tools available to artists, and some/many deem them to be cheap, ineffective, or unethical. People who say "you need to adapt and integrate" are either not artists, or are the same artists who were already tracing shit from other artists or drawing over photos they don't own.

[Anonymous No.6439346]

>>6439336
Yeah, I only have a pen. This is how I feel when I look at furry shitters with gorrillion dollar tablets that basically computer generate most of their art to begin with.

[Anonymous No.6439348]

So how do you NGMIs even wanna fight back? Do you think talking about it in this shithole will do anything?

[Anonymous No.6439349]

>>6438897
>corperate goyslop AI art
>corperate Alegria art that has been hated since the 80s

They're both about squeezing out artists and making art into a product, regardless of how the "art" looks in the end. It's like a self own.

[Anonymous No.6439350]

>>6439223
There is nothing fake about iqfy. Both of your articles contain sourced claims.

[Anonymous No.6439353]

>>6439283
>ai shitters saying we need to adapt
They're just tech faggots who know nothing about the art world. They unironically have said I need stolen assets to get better at art. I'm not like you NFT faggots who scrape images and sell jpegs. I know what my art needs, you do not.

[Anonymous No.6439354]

>>6439348
People are already donating to that probably scam lobbyist GoFundMe

[Anonymous No.6439357]

>>6439354
Kinda sad that artists have to resort to this thing. But it's still the lesser evil.

[Anonymous No.6439370]

>>6439348
By finding relevant and accurate information on how imagegen algos like Stable Diffusion work and disseminating the information in a way that's simple and easy to digest. In other words, memetic warfare. I mean, we're on 4chan, for fucks sakes, the supposed home of "weaponized autism". Why seemingly nobody has tried to swing this yet I have no idea.

Results of the test runs here has been pretty successful so far. If you haven't noticed, just finding articles on how the thing works and posting screenshots into the shill threads shuts these faggots down like nothing else, and even better, it gives other people the means to combat the shills' misinformation campaign.
See >>6439099 . I didn't post it in this thread myself, but I am the one who did the research and introduced it here. The more memes such as this one gains traction, the more people understand the inner workings of the machine, the less "magical" and intimidating it is. The more people see that all this thing does is interpolate between pictures, the more they realize just how much it's stealing to be able to work to begin with. The shill fears the widespread dissemination of this knowledge.

Now, fun fact for you- due to the nature of how these things work, by interpolating between EVERY picture in its dataset- what happens when you train a model with both pornography and pictures of children? Take a wild guess. That's right- each copy of the LAION datasets contains possibly one of the most massive collections of CP ever accumulated within its latent space, freely available for everyone to download and use.
It doesn't just have artists' artwork, it has your photos- pictures of you, pictures of your children, pictures of your dog, cat, whatever- this really rams home just how much of your privacy and dignity that these companies are raping for profit in a way that's shocking, sensational, yet entirely true. I do believe that this is the tactical memetic nuke that we're looking for.

[Anonymous No.6439378]

>>6439219
KEK my sides
>>6439211
back in your pen, paintpig
oink oink!

[Anonymous No.6439380]

>>6438897
I predict that idiots like you will continue to spam in an effort to boost your self-esteem.

[Anonymous No.6439386]

>>6439305
Unless you replied to the wrong post, you are a fucking idiot.
>The skill ceiling is really low
Yes, then when artists learn AI they can go beyond the ceiling, like fix fingers. Or actually hold a weapon. Or have two characters interact. For an artist they can go beyond whatever limits the model can achieve by doing whatever for themselves.

[Anonymous No.6439392]

>>6439386
By that point it is no longer AI art, but just art using AI to make small part of it. Also what you are saying might be the source of all the Deviantart suicidefuel where everything on the pic is basically perfect in term of technique. There are some people who used to be serious artists that use it. Ok, not complete pros, but /int/ level good.

[Anonymous No.6439396]

>>6439336
Artists have gatekept art from lazy faggots for years. Despite "art" youtuber promoting "cheating", you will be shat on by fans and professional if you got caught. There are no way they can ignore a blatantly plagiarise machine.

[Anonymous No.6439397]

>>6439392
Then the prompters will die off when the skill floor rises above what they can achieve. Artists will again rise to the top and AI prompters begone.

[Anonymous No.6439400]

>>6439397
Anon, normal digital art is still generally higher quality then what prompters are making, and they are already dying off. Most of them are Midjurney spammers and very few are Niji Jurney beta testers. I fear when Niji Jurney finally releases, because that is the model that made that Sonic. I think Niji Jurney is the one that will be the final coffin to lot of the goalposting from artists, because lot of the results I saw on DA look pretty soulful at first glance.

[Anonymous No.6439408]

>>6438924
polnigger basedjacks are basically a tulpa at this point that people use to jerk themselves off by winning pretend internet arguments. stop writing debate fanfiction and suck yourself off like a normal person
>>6438972
any kind of automation that existentially threatens an industry/profession should effectively be considered in the same way as imminent domain except rather than the govt buying out property you are buying out productive years lost to retraining or if the worker is old enough, covering pensions.
if an advancement is truly transformative enough to your economy, then that buyout is an easy trade for the gdp gains.

[Anonymous No.6439413]

How long until artists kill art for everyone?

[Anonymous No.6439424]

>>6439413
Its either AI killing art, or copyright killing art. In one example people become dissatisfied with art, as it will lose all of its magic once everyone will be able to make all kinds of pictures with simple app, thus killing art out of lack of interest. Or second scenario where copyright will make all AI models lose most of their data and the only ones having the good datasets will be anons using older versions for the price of artists no longer being able to draw fanart.

In this case sacrificing tracefaggots and fanart in order to preserve human art is a nobrainer that even faggots drawing fanart for living will agree with.

[Anonymous No.6439425]

>>6439294
why would i use AI when again, using 3D and other existing tools yields better results
Ai can only do basic shit since it was all trainned on coom and soulless FOTM art

[Anonymous No.6439430]

>>6439413
>btfoing pajeets and fotm coomfags at the same time
literally zero downsides

[Anonymous No.6439434]

>>6439430
>>6439424
>$0.05 shekels have been deposited into your bank account

[Anonymous No.6439438]

>>6439413
Only AI can kill art. Do original stuff if you're worried about copyright. Most companies are fine with fanart anyway.

[Anonymous No.6439439]

>>6439413
the funny thing is the tech behind stable diffusion can be applied to many different mediums/domains, so AIchads can pivot in a couple days while inkcels are stuck taking it up the ass from mickey mouse

[Anonymous No.6439448]

>>6439370
but that's not how it works

[Anonymous No.6439459]

>>6439370
I wish it does spread more.
Even though we're on the same side, seeing morons on places like Twitter shit themselves whenever any kind of technobabble gets thrown in their general direction is honestly fucking embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.6439492]

>>6439459
To be honest, the AI shills who are actual CS grads embarrass me more. Ignoring (mostly out of genuine ignorance, but also in bad faith) basic principles of computer science and machine learning because of the immense hype around "AI", oh and the money is a good incentive too of course. Some of these people go on to intentionally mislead non-CS people about how these systems work, "for the greater good" of the future of AI/AGI. Because as we all know from history, the ends ALWAYS justify the means, right?

[Anonymous No.6439498]

>>6439448
Care to explain? That is exactly how it work. you are wrong and dumb.

[Anonymous No.6439499]

>>6438897
That's retarded, art similar (and beter) to left pic has been done mamy times by human artist whose art is being stolen to feed this AI, without their work AI wouldn't be able to replicate it
OP post makes no sense

[Anonymous No.6439503]

>>6439439
What mediums? You mean like going beyond 2D art, or simply changing the style from anime to artstation conceptart? Your tech gets fucked once all the copyrighted works get deleted, just look at the drop in quality between SD 1.5 and 2.0. Yes, you can still use the older model and make custom models, but that might get more regulated if we get it outlawed. It might soon require you to use VPN on russian website to get training sets, and the superior models like NovelAI, Midjurney and Niji Jurney will get fucked and never come back thanks to them being closed source and cloud based.

On the other hand artists can just switch from fanart to OCs. You wont have to pay for your old artwork being used retroactively, the worst they can do is force you to delete it. Literally no downsides to artists. So called "pose theft" and "style theft" will require artists to even file the lawsuit, which they wont against fellow artists most of the time, and even if they do its just more positive stuff that tracers and talentsless fucks who desperately try to copy styles get fucked. Do you think that those scums that do shit similar to AI are liked here? Everyone complains about tracing.

[Anonymous No.6439507]

>>6439499
Shut up, we need sheepish chuds that hate bigtech corporations and their soulless Alegria art to go and support bigtech corporations. Look chuds, troons on twitter hate this thing, dont you want to automatically and unconditionally support it?

[Anonymous No.6439513]

>>6439499
Right? What did that retard think "trending on artstation" meant?

[Anonymous No.6439518]

>>6439424
>the price of artists no longer being able to draw fanart.
fanart is already against the law, no one gives a shit. Companies turn a blind eye, they don't want to stop it.

[Anonymous No.6439523]

>>6439439
How much did it cost to train stable diffusion on those 5 billion images? must have been a lot. Are they going to be able to get that money again to train on another medium after their last attempt was a catastrophic failure where they got publicly bent over and buttfucked in court? Will the dataset they need to train for their next medium be smaller than the one for art? Probably not, they probably went for the safest bet first.

[Anonymous No.6439527]

>>6438936
i would have sex with this sonic hxh autist for days and nights on end until i sucumb to exhaustion and hunger

[Anonymous No.6439562]

>>6439523
$600,000

[Anonymous No.6439582]

>>6439291
I can't tell if this is sarcastic

[Anonymous No.6439587]

People on /g/ were saying that ai art will drop in quality as more ai art gets uploaded online and less good art is being fed to it. Ai art can only copy so what happens if it is forced to copy itself billions of times because there's no real art left to copy?

[Anonymous No.6439588]

>>6439587
That's just basic generation loss but I'd like to believe they aren't so stupid they'd really feed regurgitated machineslop back to itself.

[Anonymous No.6439589]

[Anonymous No.6439591]

>>6439128
nobody responded lmao
it's so easy to see the butthurt and groupthink and hugbox mentality here sometimes

>>6439111
>that's a funny way of saying gluing pictures together
Not how it works, sorry

[Anonymous No.6439592]

>>6439588
This exactly how MidJourney does it, feeding the top scoring images back into itself, you get a very limited aesthetic range, you trade diversity for instant "quality" w/o prompting lie a dork on SD
>>6439587
Ai text to image is very primitive right now, it just brute forcing with billions of image data, you could spend years just better curating the datasets that already exist at higher resolution, detail and better descriptions, the /g/ end users just want more novelty since they only use to coom.

[Anonymous No.6439593]

>>6439589
Thank you Uncle Ted!
Merry Christmas.

[Anonymous No.6439598]

>>6439523
>a catastrophic failure where they got publicly bent over and buttfucked in court
source? oh wait you don't have one because you've gone full schizo and can't tell imagination from reality anymore

[Anonymous No.6439615]

>>6438897
>Reminder, I'm not a ""thief"", that's just a social construct haha

[Anonymous No.6439621]

>>6439591
>Not how it works, sorry
exactly how it works. get educated bitch.

[Anonymous No.6439635]

>>6439503
How can you tell if a model is using copyrighted works? What about a merged model?

[Anonymous No.6439638]

>>6439126
I mean there's a reason why genre fiction is universally derided by the literary community. Every 20 years or so someone writes a couple decent books in it, but it's pretty much all derivative garbage.

>>6439128
What D&D monster is that?

[Anonymous No.6439653]

the thing that makes me laugh about this entire thing it how much ai prompters seethe at the fact that they will never be capable of making art without a big red button doing all the work for them
Feels good being a superior human desu

[Anonymous No.6439654]

>>6439507
But troons love AI art

[Anonymous No.6439660]

I'm coping by believing that is like other AI projects so far, and can get to 90% pretty quick but getting to human levels is a hurculean effort with tons of unexpected issues.

Or maybe visual artists become like musicians and grab the industry by the balls.

[Anonymous No.6439662]

>>6439660
>but getting to human levels is a hurculean effort with tons of unexpected issues.
I've been using it for a while and this is 100% true.
The bad part is most people don't care about occasional mangled hands and are happy enough at 80%

[Anonymous No.6439713]

>>6438897
>techbros trying to peddle their grifting shit again
More news at 11

[Anonymous No.6439714]

>>6438897
>a fucking leage

[Anonymous No.6439723]

>>6439518

It is up to the copyright owner. If the owner didn't take action it just means they are okay with it.

Most people who buy fanart have a specific image that they want. Mainly NSFW. That is not something you post everywhere and AI while it looks good on some models, does not have the control an artist have.

Will it get to a point where it can generate what you imagine? maybe. But not in my lifetime. Once it reach that level I'm pretty sure there's already laws regarding feeding certain work into the training and being able to produce work just by thinking is my wet dream.

[Anonymous No.6439729]

>>6439660

the difference between an average AI user and a real artist is... AI user is satisfied with a pretty generated image.

While a true artist wants to create their own work of art. Regardless of the quality if the artist is satisfied with it. That's all that matters.

It's why most artist won't touch AI. It doesn't come from within themselves. It doesn't have the essence of themselves. It's just a pretty generated image made from other artist.

People who don't draw/paint or do any creative work don't understand the feeling when you create something that you truly satisfied with your own hands.

[Anonymous No.6439735]

>>6438985
This is going to sound like one of those insane 4chan claims but here goes. I was a trucker most my life now I'm a fucking art director. Every year for 10 years i heard 'herp derp AI gunna take your job'. It can't, its nowhere near it. At least not without monumental road infrastructure change the likes of which we've never seen.

Its OK for non trucker to observe and cluck their tongue about how 'easy' it is for AI to take truckers' jobs but let me tell you, its SO far away. Until you start trucking you won't even understand the weird situations and nuances you need to get a job done throughout the day that AI is just totally incapable of.

[Anonymous No.6439751]

>>6439735
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.6439753]

>>6439598
>source?
it's part of the hypothetical dipshit

[Anonymous No.6439774]

>>6438897
>>genuine masterpieces

Ngmi faggot

[Anonymous No.6439779]

>>6439185
this without a doubt. problem is adobe and other big corps enterprising and patenting/ copyrighting tool methods, this will stagnate ai a bit without a doubt

[Anonymous No.6439789]

>>6438897
Ultimately it's just going to become another tool for real artists.

[Anonymous No.6439849]

>>6439789
Everyone says this, yet no real artist aside from photo bashing concept artists ever used that.

[Anonymous No.6439889]

>>6439638
>What D&D monster is that?
Idk, I don't play D&D, but here picrel is an androsphinx

[Anonymous No.6439902]

>>6439889
theres some mc escher shit going on with those back legs

[Anonymous No.6439940]

From what I've made my 2080ti spit out it only seemed to be limited by vram limiting canvas size to around 512x768-1024x1280 before upscaling
Would love to get a 3090 just to piss around

[Anonymous No.6439946]

>>6439789
Explain how

[Anonymous No.6439947]

>>6438897

Emad Mostaque, CEO and founder of Stability AI, confirms that there have already been talks made regarding Hollywood and Video Game developers, about the use of Stable Diffusion in their business. "All of Hollywood and Video Games will use this Tech"

[Anonymous No.6439948]

Has AI art utterly flopped?

[Anonymous No.6439951]

>>6439948
Normies don't care, artists despise it. Their biggest defenders are NFT scammers and literal shills. Not looking good at the moment.

[Anonymous No.6439952]

>>6439947
But it was supposed to give power to the common man! We don't need Hollywood now! Everybody can make movies and games

[Anonymous No.6439969]

>>6439947
But he still asks for kikestarter donations? Either you are full of shit or that pajeet is as ugly from on the inside as he is on the outside.

[Anonymous No.6439974]

>>6439948
Yes. Ai art is just not fulfilling, and too hard to direct if you want specifics without img2img, and even with it it is a pain. There is no sense of progression, you just wait for updates lol.

[Anonymous No.6439975]

>>6439974
I find it fulfilling and definitely feela sense of progression.

[Anonymous No.6439987]

>>6439975
You do huh? Progression of your program updates, plugins, cptk collection and settings knowledge? Or is there something more? Would you be able to go back to an older tool like gan+clip and use the skills you've gained to make better work?

[Anonymous No.6440000]

>>6439987
>You do huh? Progression of your program updates, plugins, cptk collection and settings knowledge?
Yes
>Would you be able to go back to an older tool like gan+clip and use the skills you've gained to make better work?
No
If you learned Maya you think you can go back to Sketchpad and make better work?

[Anonymous No.6440005]

>>6440000
Checked, and I don't know that one, but I could go back to the earliest 3d software and make better models than dire straits music video because of my poly modelling knowledge. Same with pixel art, I could use the earliest software and make better pixel art than the pros of the time.

[Anonymous No.6440006]

>>6440005
To clarify, I meant better work than you did before with that same program, not better than you are currently producing.

[Anonymous No.6440008]

I've noticed AI Artists like to troll using the art communities that digital artists hate.

They say "this is you" and then point to Corporate Memphis, ESG "woke" art, rothko-esque modern art money laundering schemes, etc.

They stitch together a bunch of sakimichan clones, then say "why are real artists trying to oppress us." No dude your Image is made out of the work of like 80 separate artists.

No digital artist wants to try at anything and have their art gallery "lifted" and torn apart just for being popular. You're chasing after a very contentious group of artists who think the only way of making it is by copying other "front-page" artstyles. Nobody liked them, and if you're an AI artist people dislike you for the same exact reasons.

The biggest blow to the art communities is that trust is gone. I expect there to be less tutorials, more artists keeping things to themselves, less posting online, more hostility towards being followed, reposted, less sharing of unique original ideas, more donut steel hysteria, etc.

Anyone who cares about art will probably switch to harder to reproduce artforms in hopes for keeping their livelihood. There are harder to create things than lone Images, and I imagine artists will try to leverage their skills in "higher-level" artforms. Things that are much harder to create, but are more assertive of their identity, like films, animations, or videogames.

I think in the future, artists will be held to an almost corporate standard of non-disclosure. No interviews, no processes, just shipping the final work via established /trusted distributors/publishers. No grassroots, no authenticity, no communication.

How the music industry was immensely hostile towards piracy, will be the standard across all the fields. Artists will either have to go on to the harder-to-make artforms, or they'll be relegated to hobbyists. Maybe "human-made" will become a popular selling point.

[Anonymous No.6440012]

>>6439849
3D and photobash is 1000x more useful
only people who see this as a "tool" are people who only do generic pinups or non-artists

[Anonymous No.6440016]

As an AI artist I expect the anti-AI sentiments to settle down once it's pretty clear that it ain't going anywhere.
Sure there will always be the loudest voices who will speak against AI art, but ignoring them, it will be nice to AI/digital/trad to all have a community where everyone can share and learn from eachother. A digital artist could be like "dang I don't want to do a background" and I could be like "I got you bro, also could you touch up this piece I've been working on?"
I hope some AI art bootcamps spring up soon, since I already know I'm interested in AI art then I think it would be a cost effective alternative to art school or lessons.

I do think that traditional art will slide into a different kind of category though, like a historical curiosity. The people who spend decades "making images like a computer does but by hand" will be seen as a little off, like an adult with a model train or lego room. But at least for a little while, this will also come with a bit of wholesome old-timey charm.

[Anonymous No.6440017]

I only see character artists getting butt-raped by AI. everyone else is unaffected.

[Anonymous No.6440021]

>faggot: "this stick man sucking himself off represents the systemic racism in todays society"
>me: look at this cool pic i generated
>faggot: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS NOT ART STOP STEALING MY STYLE

[Anonymous No.6440022]

>>6440016
>As an AI artist
Stopped there. Any retard can reach the ceiling in a week.

[Anonymous No.6440024]

>>6440022
and they still mog the shit out of any of the scribbles the inkcels of /ic/ can puke out

[Anonymous No.6440025]

>>6440016
You're not an artist, it's not surprising you don't realize people actually enjoy the process or want something the AI can't create.

[Anonymous No.6440028]

>>6440006
Maybe, I've never used any earlier itterations of AI art as it were. Much of the skillset is knowing the limits of the software and working around them with other software like photoshop so that stuff would be transferable.

[Anonymous No.6440029]

>>6440022
>>6440025
>You're not an artist
I use tools to make art. I am an artist.
One of those tools is AI. I am an AI artist.
Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.6440030]

>>6440029
Do I become a chef when I ask the burger lady to put pickles and mustard on my burger?

[Anonymous No.6440032]

>get BTFO as usual
>start a new reply chain with the same dumbass arguments
If you retards stopped replying he would just stop posting.

[Anonymous No.6440033]

>>6440030
no you should trace it first and then use 5 different pirated programs to hide your mistakes

[Anonymous No.6440034]

>>6440033
>woman forgets the mustard
>I add the mustard at home
I'm a real chef now, what the fuck cooking is this easy??

[Anonymous No.6440036]

>>6440012
you can use these tools for 3d and photobashing, why not?

[Anonymous No.6440037]

>>6440034
you just described 99% of the """""artists""""" on /ic/ kek. keep tracing!

[Anonymous No.6440041]

>>6440037
What are you even talking about, most people here don't trace.

[Anonymous No.6440077]

>>6440016
its interesting that you assume trad and digital artists would ask you for an AI background instead of just prompting one themselves. I'm no AI hater but you guys are delusional if you think the skill ceiling is really that high. If artists could make the switch from sculpting to z-brush, or from oils to digital, both of which can be unintuitive as hell, they can definitely do some prompts, lmao. In this case, the AI guy is the only one in need of a skill that they don't have, not the other way around, especially as prompting is made to be easier over time, similar to how googling is now easier than before.

[Anonymous No.6440096]

>>6440077
I switched from zbrush/3d to painting and drawing... it definitely helped and the fundamentals can be applied to both. You don't need those for AI crap, people doing AI "art" lie to themselves and want to feel competent as well instead of developing skills or a trained eye. It's kind of funny how delusional some people get when given some new toys to play with it's like kids pretending to be police officers using toy guns.

[Anonymous No.6440112]

It has been absolutely amazing to watch extreme cope in such a real-time fashion.

Thank you all, it's truly been a fascinating few months. Can't wait to see what 2023 brings ;)

[Anonymous No.6440114]

>>6440112
>Can't wait to see what 2023 brings ;)

[Anonymous No.6440145]

Oh, cool.
My civil, milquetoast thread on image hosts reacting to AI art gets deleted, while "screeching back and forth about AI thread #535320" gets 250 replies and will probably archive safely.

>>/ic/thread/6440092

[Anonymous No.6440155]

>>6438897
Prompters aren't real artists

[Anonymous No.6440182]

>>6440145
>implying we have dedicated mods
/g/ likes bots. threads get deleted if they're reported enough times. you do the math.
Try drawing instead, I hear that's a fun and rewarding hobby that you can do.

[Anonymous No.6440203]

>>6440155
>>6440029

[Anonymous No.6440205]

>>6438897
>Artists are the real kikes!
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.6440210]

>>6440203
>*guy tapping at a mcdonalds menu screen* you see, i am using this tool to cook! it's literally the same as using a pot or pan!

[Anonymous No.6440232]

>>6440029
ok pajeet

[Anonymous No.6440235]

>>6438897
Commercial artists will be wage cucks to corperate lords. Corperate lords want AI more than they want to pay and manage artists.

[Anonymous No.6440244]

>>6438897
No the true reason, is that artists are angry they will lose out on easy autismbucks. By doing fetish commissions form asspies on sites like devaintart.
Why would you commission an artist for 200$ when you can just generate it with AI? You probably get your waifu art faster and don't have to worry about the artist not keeping their end of the deal.

[Anonymous No.6440245]

>>6440145
:) the mods are good at their job

[Anonymous No.6440252]

This exact same AI shill thread has been spammed for the past week across multiple boards with the same posts and images.

[Anonymous No.6440253]

lets be real, your doodles ain't ever going to make it anywhere near an ai model unless someone wants some sonichu tier garbage

[Anonymous No.6440285]

I'm still waiting on a high profile genned cp case that gets a media shitstorm around it. With the huge amount of celeb stuff it feels like a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.6440325]

>>6440285
Nothing will come of AI art legislatively unless it infringes on other tech or media corporations, but it will never matter that it infringes on individual artists. Sorry but it’s over for digital illustrators

[Anonymous No.6440335]

The true joy of art is to be able to express yourself as onions as it may sound. AI art is anything but that. Even with the best prompt and training you still have to deal with randomness. I got bored quick of it and people who still use it unironically subhuman for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.6440339]

>>6438897
Surely AI will also be making corporate art.

[Anonymous No.6440354]

>>6438942
Now, that's a stretch

[Anonymous No.6440359]

>>6438984
Yeah, but that sucks

[Anonymous No.6440365]

>>6438897
wynonAnon prob got more attention than he wanted here kek

[Anonymous No.6440379]

>>6439947
Kek that this 2/10 pajeet will be responsible for mass suicides.

[Anonymous No.6440766]

>>6439947
A fucking poo. Not even once.

[Anonymous No.6440768]

>>6440016
>AI artist
No such thing. You're a prompter, not an artist. Post some art you made without the need of a bot then we'll be the judge.

[Anonymous No.6440778]

>>6440768
I feel like an artist. My feelings are valid.

[Anonymous No.6440804]

>>6440778
Do you Americans think that if you feel you are something, then you magically become that? If I feel like an engineer, then I am an engineer?
Now I know why transgenderism is so popular there.

[Anonymous No.6440813]

>>6439849
chatgpt style teacher. feeds prompts into its own stable diffusion. you ask it to draw a horse or some shit, it shows you how line by line. you show it a picture of your shitty horse, it says try drawing it like this. why not?

[Anonymous No.6440866]

>>6438897
The one on the right is more creative.

[Anonymous No.6440869]

>>6438906
It only looks good I'd it copies an art work that already looks good.

[Anonymous No.6440881]

>>6439206
AIniggers don't understand the idea of art for fun anon, they think that the only thing that drives artists is money.

[Anonymous No.6440886]

Prompt: >>6440768 getting raped by black men while Biden rolls a blunt in the style of Dali

[Anonymous No.6440896]

Why are people so supportive of m*sicians being luddites? Using somebody else's work as an input for your own is ENTIRELY TRANSFORMATIVE and ENTIRELY ETHICAL. Why are people supporting this chud instead of calling him out?

[Anonymous No.6440903]

>>6440024
lolno. i prefer beginner scribbles over your shit. because I *know* your shit is just computer generated trash that a 5 year old could accomplish. it's like you expect me to be impressed by something your common 5 year old can do

[Anonymous No.6440906]

>>6440016
>The people who spend decades "making images like a computer does but by hand" will be seen as a little off, like an adult with a model train or lego room. But at least for a little while, this will also come with a bit of wholesome old-timey charm.
nice dreams, faggot. the issue is, you are asking the computer to make an image, while an actual artist draws from their mind, the ideas they have in their brain. a computer could never come up with a creature concept like a "dragon". assuming that dragons were never conceptualized by humans yet, and you are the guy who just came up with a creature concept in your mind and decided to call it "dragon", you cannot type in "dragon" in your theft software, because it has nothing to steal from. you'll need an artist to come up with the concept before the non-thinking AI can copy it. it's funny how hard you're seething, how hard you want artists to be considered the "odd ones" that you replaced. it'll never happen I'm afraid. you're not using AI as a tool, you are the tool of the AI

[Anonymous No.6440907]

>>6440906
prompters are just image DJ's, nothing more

[Anonymous No.6440911]

>>6440906
>that'll be $700 plus tip

[Anonymous No.6440919]

>>6440335
>The true joy of art is to be able to express yourself as onions as it may sound.
There's nothing wrong with that. All this "if you're not making heaps of money or influence off of it, it's not worth doing" is jaded consumerist bullshit - the same kind of bullshit that causes people to waste years of their lives doing shit they don't want to because of being insecure as a young adult. It's the same kind of manipulation military recruiters use against young men, suggesting that they're not good enough in some way unless they join.

This materialistic "bootcamp attitude" towards art is completely antithetical to the sole driver of all art. It's not fame, it's not money - from that you might get skillful illustration, but you won't get "art" - it's emotion. Art is a communication of a feeling, be it symbolic of one's joy, a desire for something that doesn't exist, and everything between. Ultimately all creativity is a communication beyond conversation, a way of sharing ideas and feelings in ways simply speaking could never do.

Unfortunately, too many people see art as nothing more than a product and, in that, a potential way to get out of working a normal job. Why "art" is like this now is a whole other discussion, but if it weren't for these reasons, nobody would believe AI pictures to be art. Fortunately, because of the innate emotional human connection to art, fewer and fewer are really caring about it since there's nothing touching or impressive about a machine thinking for you. It's amusing for all of a few minutes but then it's as boring as a blank piece of paper. In reality, the makers of the AI programs themselves are more artists than any image generated from it. Art has a value to it that is beyond simple utility, meaning it can never be replaced. It's not the same as factory workers being replaced by robots.

[Anonymous No.6440922]

>>6440906
Couldn't you merge concepts? I've seen a lot of animal hybrids done. A dragon is an animal hybrid too, though dragon is pretty broad, some are a far cry from any real animals.

[Anonymous No.6440963]

>>6440016
>A digital artist could be like "dang I don't want to do a background" and I could be like "I got you bro, also could you touch up this piece I've been working on?"
HOLY KEK MY SIDES

[Anonymous No.6440965]

>>6440096
It really is. The thing is, if the power goes out or has to be rationed, even a 3d artist can apply their skillset to basic sculpting, and a lot of 2d digital first artists take well to gouache and such.
AI prompters? Screwed.

[Anonymous No.6440975]

stop holding back science. just stop.

[Anonymous No.6440982]

>>6440975
it angers you that you will never achieve anything of artistic merit
go back to consooming

[Anonymous No.6440987]

>>6440982
ai helps those that are disabled, like me, to express myself in a way i never had before

[Anonymous No.6440991]

>>6440987
this guy draws without any fucking arms, what kind of retardation do you have to be one to not be able to fucking draw

[Anonymous No.6440993]

>>6440991
i'm missing a third of my brain

[Anonymous No.6440994]

>>6440975
>Artists holding back science
>Many sciences were birthed on the backs of artists
>Artists have been using subtle instances of AI since the 80s, just not in a soulless, vomiting shitty photobashes-tier way
Enjoy your "democratized" accessibility while you can. Those of us who don't reject AI art will mog you and gatekeep that shit soon enough like we did with other tech. Remember that:
>Artists that support AI tech care more about actual artists than AI """"artists""""
>We've watched you on discords and lurked on your reddits. It's clear you have no idea how to use what you get from those prompts in a fulfilling manner
>We do way more than struggling with the lasso tool for ten hours
>We know that the AI itself is more of an artist than you will ever be. Even comparing yourself to an art director is a joke; most of them have an art background.
>You're too chickenshit to use an AI model with copywritten music because you're more aware of what you're doing than what you let on
>You will never know when we steal your "work" that's making rounds on social media, reducing your (((Masterpiece))) to nothing more than a base sketch or a fragment in a photobashed collage. And when you do, there's absolutely nothing that you will ever be able to do about it

[Anonymous No.6440995]

>>6440993
and this autistic guy can't function beyond a 1st grade level, go draw more

[Anonymous No.6440996]

>>6440991
>>6440995
Further proof that AIfags are lazy subhumans.

[Anonymous No.6440997]

>>6440995
>literally think of a few designs in my head for a moment and a dozen art pieces are finished within a minute

[Anonymous No.6441007]

>>6440997
McDonald's

[Anonymous No.6441010]

>>6439206
Drawing is a waste of time now. You could be using that time and effort to add some real value to the world by helping improve the technology.

[Anonymous No.6441025]

I remember when artists wouldn't use Photoshop. Guess where they are now? Buried in history's garbage heap. Your inability to understand technology won't back progress so you might as well stop whining about it.

[Anonymous No.6441032]

>>6441025
This. People were complaining about black people in their societies. Guess what? They're not going away, unlike White people. That's progress.

[Anonymous No.6441036]

>>6441025
>>6441032
Samefag

[Anonymous No.6441058]

>>6438897
I expect it will be banned and AI generated images useless. Can't wait.

[Anonymous No.6441074]

>>6441058
Unless government steps in good luck lol. Hollywood and other soulless cooperations go all in AI.

[Anonymous No.6441090]

>>6441010
I know this is a shitpost, but this actually seems to be how they feel. Drawing is a wasteful, meaningless pursuit unworthy of monetary compensation, but somehow a picture shitter is an important invention and the people who make them should be rich.

[Anonymous No.6441092]

I am an artist.
In fact, I am an AI artist.
And there's nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.6441140]

>>6440996
Most people are, really
And you can give them all the tools, they're still will be useless.
A phone has a camera, gyroscope, touchscreen, pretty powerful processor, shit ton of applications. There are movies shot and edited on just a phone. But most people just use it to shitpost on social media, watch youtube and play videogames.

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>>6441092
there's certainly something we could do about that

[Anonymous No.6441203]

AI could never draw this

[Anonymous No.6441204]

>>6441203
Or this

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>>6441203
>>6441204
Soulful