beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6432606]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6427352

[Anonymous No.6432667]

I have been trying to learn the face past anime bullshit. First attempt at construction was a little wrong. Overlaid to see what was fucked up, and redrew. Not sure if that's cheating but I am trying to learn where I am fucking up.

[Anonymous No.6432683]

>>6432667
You should be attempting to draw the image.
Then trace over the image.
Then try to draw the image again.
Then try to apply what you learned in a new image entirely.
Also working on painting and I need to study backs to make Midna’s look right.
Goal is to make it look like twilight is peeking through.

[Anonymous No.6432697]

I drew this ! desu , critique is welcome

[Anonymous No.6432704]

>>6432697
Very nice, careful with your perspective though

[Anonymous No.6432707]

>>6432307
Mechas? Sadly, no. This is my first attempt at featuring a mech. Rendering is not my thing but I will try my best.

[Anonymous No.6432727]

>>6432606
>drawing with loomis and getting to 100 boxes
i would quit if I couldn't see demonstrable applications of the exercises improving my "skills," sometimes the grinding starts to grate. want to hold off on the Bammes animal books until I get to the appreciable point in drawabox though, so i have the "grounding" in perspective, but it couldn't hurt to peek ahead and draw some badass ligers

[Anonymous No.6432733]

>>6432704
thankyou

[Anonymous No.6432769]

how can I improve my hair shading? I don't understand what colors to use or what shapes the shadows should be

[Anonymous No.6432796]

>>6432769
https://raidesart.tumblr.com/post/628449890572304384/so-many-of-you-asked-for-a-tutorial-on-how-i-paint/amp

You have only midtones no darks.

[Anonymous No.6432809]

tried drawing abaddon the despoilt brat from wh40k

[Anonymous No.6432816]

>>6432796
do I also have that issue with the clothes/skin or is it mostly just the hair?

[Anonymous No.6432834]

>>6432816
Yes. Layer grey over it. Then change the layer into a color layer. You'll see it.

[Anonymous No.6432835]

[Anonymous No.6432847]

>>6432835
I think these look good but could someone with more experience help me out with the "many lines" or chicken scratches? I get that it's supposed to go something like gesture into form into anatomy, so the lines are leftover from "feeling out" the gesture, but is the many overlapping "feel out" line thing a stylistic choice or necessary one? Is it possible to enact some line economy and use the minimum possible lines in the gesture form anatomy pipeline or is that something masterful that people worry about later, or utilize digital art to do now? Or am I way off base and missing something?

[Anonymous No.6432854]

I don't think I'm feeling the form bros

[Anonymous No.6432897]

>>6432834
thank you anon I think I get it now c:

[Anonymous No.6432902]

>>6432854
think it's easier to just make them up

[Anonymous No.6432910]

>>6432897
This is still not dark enough. The shading isn't much different from the original.
Block in the midtone. Then the dark. Then the brights, then the highlights.

[Anonymous No.6432941]

Drew my expedition leader from my new Dorf Fort. I've always enjoyed the detailed physical descriptions the game gives everything, practically begging to be doodled.

[Anonymous No.6432972]

>>6432847
If the line is good it's good, that was just me sketching.
I think the better you get the faster you get the right lines and then you can start playing with how many lines or how thick you make them from the start
With the ones I made I'd have to make another layes and do the lines again this time in one stroke
Sounds like common sense to me but whatever

[Anonymous No.6432980]

>>6432910
So midtones are basically desaturated color, and the darks are midtones but darker. How do you know where to put the midtones? They are supposed to transition into the darks right

[Anonymous No.6432990]

>hold a pencil
>become conscious about the way I'm holding my pencil
>hand gets really weak
>can't really hold a pencil anymore
How the fuck do I fix this? It's like manual breathing but for my hand, really pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.6433034]

>>6432980
it is copy language. but usually mid tone is not a shadow. I guess you can reversengener it somewhat - like you decide lighting and simplify it/express it in 3 tone. I'm not helping

[Anonymous No.6433080]

[Anonymous No.6433084]

[Anonymous No.6433086]

>>6433080
>>6433084
well on ur way :)

[Anonymous No.6433094]

[Anonymous No.6433103]

open to idea on how i can improve this composition

[Anonymous No.6433106]

I cant demonstrate how to do it, or how you must approach it , I'm explaining language

[Anonymous No.6433113]

>>6432980
i wouldnt listen to that guy who was trying to give u advice. the hair goes dark enough. the darkness of your shadows depend on the ambient light in the area, which is a lot of light based on the rest of your figure and how dark the shadows go everywhere else. you can darken them, but thats mostly for design purposes, composition, to make shapes WITH the darks. but if thats not what you are going for, then its ok to have shadows that dont go way dpp, your shadows are ok as they look, value wise, unless again, you are trying to make composition with your shadows like i did with my composition sketch here
>>6433103
but the mood of your painting is not like that. lighting determines mood. if you want a serious mood, go for dark shadows, if you are doing cute anime girls, you dont need strong dark shadows and dramatic cast shadows and shit. it looks ok.

to answer your question about the "problem" your having with the hair, unless you articulate it another way i dont see a problem. the most important thing is that the hair looks natural and it fits to the painting, if it didnt fit it would look like it was cut out of a magazine or something. but it works, honestly it looks fine and matches the rest of your painting in terms of lighting, values and brushwork so i wouldnt worry about it. hair DOES get dark, because its reflective, but you went dark enough as far as im concerned.

[Anonymous No.6433116]

Roast

[Anonymous No.6433128]

>>6433094
:D

[Anonymous No.6433133]

>>6433116
Specifically. Any idea how to make the mountainside believable in watercolor? And from just a non watercolor perspective, what's wrong with the mountainside?

[Anonymous No.6433137]

>>6433116
tsunami?

[Anonymous No.6433140]

>>6433116
Looks like tsunami about to destroy that town

[Anonymous No.6433142]

>>6433137
Ahhhhhhh :(

[Anonymous No.6433146]

>>6433116
Here's the reference ahahaha

[Anonymous No.6433148]

>>6433140
It does

[Anonymous No.6433205]

:)

[Anonymous No.6433225]

[Anonymous No.6433319]

>>6433205
Thank you ^^. I didn't really do much to the mountains this time and afraid to go back to add purple so I'm just gonna leave them blue like that

[Anonymous No.6433326]

>>6433113
thank you for the advice. Youre right the overall composition was important

[Anonymous No.6433332]

shitty sketch I did without references, clear errors with the right arm and generally stumpy proportions but I had fun doing it. any other input appreciated
>>6432941
sick, I’ve been meaning to try drawing some stuff from my own df game

[Anonymous No.6433370]

>>6433326
hot

[Anonymous No.6433373]

please respond

[Anonymous No.6433391]

Any tips, mistakes things to fix/work on? I've been focusing on a lot of figure drawing as a "proper" practice and drawing anything I want for fun. I kinda want to get more into perspective and clothes since it's something I really want to focus on, but It's a bit intimidating. I'm thinking about just focusing in figure drawing a bit more before getting into anything else, since I want to get decent at anatomy/construction/proportions. There's a lot I want to learn, and I guess there's no set in stone path, but I feel like I'll try learning a lot at the same time and lose focus into what's more important first.

I'll probably start reading Figure Drawing For All It's Worth, I gave it a couple glances a few weeks ago but It was a bit intimidating at the time.

[Anonymous No.6433399]

>>6433391
lower legs look thin like a chicken leg

[Anonymous No.6433445]

>>6433399
Thanks. That makes sense, I don't focus a lot on legs and whenever I'm drawing them it feels a bit weird. That puts a lot into perpective, I'm guessing I don't know where calf ends properly so the leg ends up thiner than it should. I'll probably focus a bit on legs today.

[Anonymous No.6433532]

>>6433205
What program do you use to make these?

[Anonymous No.6433563]

Hands look uncanny
Anyone who can give me a red line?

[Anonymous No.6433639]

Hey can someone give me some advice on the rendering of this? I like the way the left side looks I just don't know how to proper place the highlights. The light is going a bit above her forehead from the top.

[Anonymous No.6433696]

>>6433563
Still a beg so take this with a grain of salt but the right breast doesn't follow the forms very well. Something like this. AGAIN I'm perma beg so this is not going to be perfect advice but this is what I see. Study anatomy some more and you'll get there. Also the shadows aren't consistent with each other.

[Anonymous No.6433702]

>>6433696
I honestly just copied it

Anyway. I found the problem was the arm was too long

This angle is so weird and difficult

[Anonymous No.6433703]

>>6433563
Working on your proportions some more would help as well. As well as studying forms more.

[Anonymous No.6433803]

>>6432707
Different anon. You've got a talent for this, or it's a fluke. Mech I mean. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but fuck rendering, your lines are pleasing. Feels more organic.

[Anonymous No.6433808]

>>6432990
Try something to distract you. Singing or something.

[Anonymous No.6433812]

>>6433373
No

[Anonymous No.6433849]

BEEEEEEEEG. Kill me

>>6433373
my response is... research head to body ratio, both for how wide shoulders should be and the chest height
>>6433332
thats respectable knight. its just a bit flat on various places
>>6433326
i am not fan of all the blurry edges but otherwise it has the holy trinity: soul + cute + coom
>>6433319
the version with tsunami was more eye + imagination catching :-)
>>6433103
i cant help you but i kneel. very original!
>>6432990
get a pen grip
>>6432847
all 3 out of 3 art books i have read so far said the same thing: less thinking, more drawing. Some people naturally converge into bold single line and some keep the many light lines. both lead into same results in the end.
>>6432809
bit blurry but i kneel
>>6432697
nicolaides would be proud anon
>>6432727
anon... you forgot to PYW the boxes

[Anonymous No.6433872]

>>6433849
I feel like I can do everything but the "Xray leg" so that's something at least. There's plenty of boxes left to figure that out though. Sorry for the lack of resize.

[Anonymous No.6433931]

Please ignore the size faggotry I'm doing a christmas thing for somewhere else. Does the hand placement work? I can make this pose with my own hand if I raise my elbow and twist my wrist but I'm not sure. Also anything else that's bad, I'm looking to improve above anything else.

[Anonymous No.6433938]

Some of Loomis'instructions have me thinking I should take a step back and learn these forms. He goes over the ball but then pretty much skips ahead to the cube and pyramid. I get that they're "easy" shapes but I've just spent 30 pages with the ball and drawn 50 ball-based things, do I need another set of skills here?

[Anonymous No.6433943]

>>6433931
is that supposed to be her hand? it's very unnatural

[Anonymous No.6433946]

>>6433943
Fuck what's a good hand position for this

[Anonymous No.6433947]

>>6433938
the more I learn the more I realise everything is literally just fundamentals

[Anonymous No.6433957]

>>6433946
This but the other way

[Anonymous No.6433959]

>>6433947
I might just be dumb but he didn't really dwell on any fundies. I guess I need a course literally on forms and shapes lmao, fair enough.

[Anonymous No.6433961]

>>6433931
I think the hand pose would be very uncomfortable for a regular person unless it were someone else's hand. Maybe try a position where the elbow would be between them, like him resting on her open palm or thumb. I also think the chin is still too far out. Most people don't jut out their jaws when they pucker their lips. Those muscles are all around the mouth. Try looking up "How to Draw a Character's Profile" by Naoki Saito. He explains a few different ways to do it with guide lines.

[Anonymous No.6433986]

>>6433961
I'll check It out thanks!

[Anonymous No.6433987]

>>6433946
something like this?

[Anonymous No.6434010]

>>6432606
I don't understand the diff between sketching and lineart. When I make a new drawing, I just start drawing with the pencil tool and that's it, just recently I started adding the pen tool where I go over the pencil lines all over again. but I keep both in my final drawing. idk what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.6434012]

>draw from a reference with heavy perspective
>take a pic of my drawing, overlay it on the reference, see it's off
>realize that i have the paper tilted relative to my body so the angles i'm seeing and the angles i'm drawing are off
>throw out page, take 2 with more angle checking and paying attention to the paper orientation
>feel that it's better, take a pic to check again which is in pic related
>it's off again
i've been free handing all of the lines which hasn't been helping but i'm getting filtered by trying really hard to have good accuracy, feeling good when i draw it, then seeing i'm way off which really destroys my motivation to keep drawing. i do a bunch of simple studies and never anything like an entire room put together so i wanted this to be a study of a complete room but i feel like this is too much at once for a /beg/ like myself

[Anonymous No.6434015]

>>6433987
Thanks resting on the palm could certainly work

[Anonymous No.6434020]

>>6434012
Maybe a ruler and measuring the angles until you improve line accuracy? It's really hard doing a 1:1 perfect replication from just visual

[Anonymous No.6434117]

>>6434012
Do you understand perspective? Your source is in 3-point perspective (most obvious in the verticals of the bookcase compared to the opposite corner of the room).

At least draw the corners and edges of the room to start with.

[Anonymous No.6434197]

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[Anonymous No.6434222]

[Anonymous No.6434246]

Too lazy to go any further with this, perspective is a bit fucky in spots and could have done with some darker values.

>>6434214
Looks a bit too scribbly to be readable for me.

>>6434012
I found "perspective made easy" to be helpful. I'm all for freehanding but I find at least drawing a horizon line in helps me.

>>6433931
I think it'd be more natural to have her holding him like a microphone you size fetish creep.

>>6433332
Looks cool, I'd like to see an inked version. I feel like the style of shield doesnt really fit with the rest of the outfit.

[Anonymous No.6434271]

[Anonymous No.6434292]

>>6433106
>>6433326
I wanted to see how it would look if it had stronger shadows.
I think yours looks a little dull. But I want to see the overall opinion.

[Anonymous No.6434310]

>>6434292
hot

[Anonymous No.6434325]

>>6434292
One with crazy ramblings and pictures and one who wanted to you push contrast are different people. I was just trying to explain what words mean not what you need to do. I think it has fine contrast and cute girl. maybe you can tidy up it a bit to look less sketchy but this up to you.

[Anonymous No.6434340]

>>6434325
I’m not the guy who made this. I wanted to see what the contrast vs no contrast looks like. I think you can go either way, but I think the contrasted look reads better.

[Anonymous No.6434345]

>>6434340
its funny
About this one, I think I like added shadows but do not like yellow spots. yellows I assume was supposed to be brighter but it almost darker.

[Anonymous No.6434359]

>>6434345
Yellow is supposed to be the sun’s light. But I think it starts looking like the evening. So yeah the yellow could be brighter.

[Anonymous No.6434433]

>>6433563
My man, you keep drawing those really ugly ears/jaws, I think you should work on that, it's not a lot of work and it will make your stuff look way better

[Anonymous No.6434513]

posting wip here because the mechanization general is fucking dead or they ignore me.

[Anonymous No.6434524]

>>6434513
There might not be much to say if it’s not done. There aren’t any huge issues,

[Anonymous No.6434533]

>>6434513
It's cool. How do you do backgrounds?

[Anonymous No.6434558]

>>6434533
A mix of brush strokes in the shape of trees and leaves split in multiple layers so i can apply different amounts of blur to create depth. Nothing fancy, really.

[Anonymous No.6434633]

I missed drawing Wuya. So here’s something I’m working on.

[Anonymous No.6434764]

Working on a wolf-man (again)

[Anonymous No.6434813]

comic for a game

[Anonymous No.6434834]

>>6434271
Yowza.
Humana humana

[Anonymous No.6434841]

I recently realized that I rarely ever do copies of existing art, I usually just use references and do my own thing with them. I think it's because I get bored following someone else's shit, but idk. Should I do it anyway, or keep drawing my own stuff and try to improve that way?

[Anonymous No.6434844]

>>6434841
Copying things you like makes you familiar with how they do things and you can incorporate that in your own work.

[Anonymous No.6434846]

>>6434841

[Anonymous No.6434847]

>>6434846

[Anonymous No.6434852]

>>6434847
Somehow reminds me of Stefania Ferrario

[Anonymous No.6434858]

Probably my last painting of the year.

[slowfag No.6434859]

>>6432606
Been working on this for too long, think this is the 3rd revision. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.6434864]

today's stonehouse

[Anonymous No.6434865]

>>6434852
It's the short hair probably

[Anonymous No.6434866]

>>6434858
ooo well done!
>>6434859
good anon, nice linework!
>>6434864
keep it up anon!

[Anonymous No.6434889]

Been slacking for a while now and I just can't find the motivation to pick up a course and stick with it, so I've been thinking of going with a payed one, thinking the cash I spend on it would be an extra incentive. Anyone here have any experience with payed courses (hopefully with artist feedback) that they can recommend.

[Anonymous No.6434920]

How does this look? It’s the Mari Lwyd. Trying to finish this painting before Christmas.
>>6434889
Only guy I look at is Christophe Young’s free tutorials on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.6435013]

[Anonymous No.6435087]

>>6434920
Seems nice anon

[Anonymous No.6435112]

How's this coming along so far?

[Anonymous No.6435133]

Is this any good?

[Anonymous No.6435170]

What exactly is thumbnailing? I thought it's when you look at the CSP preview window to see how good your picture looks like as a thumbnail, but apparently it's more like prototyping your character designs.

[Anonymous No.6435191]

Does anyone know about good resources for learning 3D form or how to think in 3D?

[Anonymous No.6435240]

>>6435170
it is prototyping of anything. main idea is drawing small and simple but a lot of variations. you explore instead of committing to first that come to mind, and they can be made fast and give what is overall impression without digging into details

[Anonymous No.6435262]

then you pick what you like the most of what you was able to come up with and realize it as full drawing. I never do that but this is what idea of it

[Anonymous No.6435339]

>>6435240
>>6435262
Ah, so that's what it is. Thanks

[Anonymous No.6435366]

>>6434920
I think I’m done this. How did it turn out?
>>6435133
Is this a study?
It looks good.

[Anonymous No.6435371]

[Anonymous No.6435382]

>>6434292
thanks anon. I think it looked dull because the shading was too messy and blended together. I tried changing the shapes of the shadows/highlights to be more defined like yours and it looks a lot better now

[Anonymous No.6435460]

[Anonymous No.6435473]

>>6435366
It looks good. What creature is that supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.6435489]

>>6435382
Maybe add a background and I’ll be able to judge it better. But I’d say the highlights should look like this guy’s since she’s on a beach or somewhere sunny.
The way you defined the hair is better. But you also smeared the light everywhere in the hair. Clear defined shapes really help.
Maybe look at the artist Gloss. He has big hair shapes. And less refinement of the hair if that’s what you’d prefer.
>>6435473
It’s a Mari lwyd. They are an Irish creature that goes around with groups of drunk men asking to be let in. It’s a horse skull on a broomstick.

[Anonymous No.6435499]

>>6435489
this is nice anon, what layer modes are you using?

[Anonymous No.6435513]

>>6435499
I didn’t make it. But on procreate it seems like it’s the vivid light setting.
Here’s a side by side of the shadows.

[Anonymous No.6435548]

>>6435366
No it was supposed to be a finished colored drawing. This is the fineliner underdrawing

[Anonymous No.6435557]

twitter views are making me feel self concious

[Anonymous No.6435562]

>>6435548
Under drawing is great.
Coloring is patchy. Sky has no color either.

[Anonymous No.6435567]

some sketching ideas. Wanted this mechanical mosquito to be like shooting toxic gas around and some guy about to kill it

[Anonymous No.6435569]

>>6435191
Anatomy for Sculptors

[Anonymous No.6435659]

My most recent

[Anonymous No.6435667]

Im watching vilppu's anatomy lectures before I do the "using anatomy" part of the manual. Is this necessary? I don't mind doing the anatomy first but I'm getting impatient especially since my copy of the manual arrived a couple days ago.

[Anonymous No.6435676]

Self portrait

[Anonymous No.6435725]

>>6435567
Gmi make it.
>>6435659
Cool horse
The dude doesn't match the dynamism of the horse though
>>6435676
Resize your images please this also doesn't flip it.
Try making lines for the nostrils instead of circles.

[Anonymous No.6435753]

>>6435725
>Cool horse
Thank you, after practicing horses a bunch I think I finally got the hang of drawing them
>The dude doesn't match the dynamism of the horse though
Alright thank you, if I exaggerated the movement like picrel would it be better and more dynamic? I was looking at cowboys at rodeos and how they lean back to counterbalance when the horse is rearing or jumping forward to not fall off

[Anonymous No.6435763]

>>6435753
>I was looking at cowboys at rodeos and how they lean back to counterbalance when the horse is rearing or jumping forward to not fall off
Yea figured as much but that would imply he didn't have his horse under control
Pretty sure the knight and horse would be as one after all the training they did dialy and the horse would not run off when he doesn't expect it.

[Anonymous No.6435772]

>>6435659
>>6435753
I'd do it more like this

[Anonymous No.6435778]

>>6435763
>>6435772
Thank you both, I appreciate the feedback

[Anonymous No.6435802]

>>6435778
They're both me kek

[Anonymous No.6435828]

>>6435725
Yeah sorry, will resize it next time.
lines for the nostrils? But my mirror displayed them as circles on my actual face. Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.6435834]

[Anonymous No.6435852]

>>6433103
This is amazing good work anon
Just a suggestion but maybe if you wanted to make the angel wings and land extend over the black boarder for a cool effect.

[Anonymous No.6435933]

Found a bunch of drawings I made back when I was around 15 or 16 years old. Haven't really done much drawing since then but I want to redraw some of them. Where can I improve and how?

[Anonymous No.6435940]

>>6435933
enz on gol

[Anonymous No.6435956]

>>6435834
I like where it's going. You haven't lost the comfy feel of the basic lines from the earlier iteration. I thought you would make it suck by expanding on it, bit I'm pleasantly surprised to be wrong.

[Anonymous No.6435997]

rate this

[Anonymous No.6436018]

>>6435460
Maybe make her tits squish out more since they're resting?

[Anonymous No.6436055]

[Anonymous No.6436066]

Hello /IC/, I am currently for the first time making a serious attempt to improve my anatomy and male character drawings. The following are my studies of today. The first two are copies of other artist and the third is my own attempt with reference. Please critique and tell me how I can do better, because I want to improve. Thank you kindly

[Anonymous No.6436173]

>>6435567
Gun's angle is all wrong, it should be more than 90 degrees

[Anonymous No.6436210]

Where can I find high quality references for arms?

[Anonymous No.6436211]

At what point am I supposed to convince people that I don't have the ability to draw? How many years do I have to draw before you people admit that it's impossible for me?

[Anonymous No.6436213]

>>6435802
Nice viking, do you have a blog?

[Anonymous No.6436216]

>>6436066
why not use a male reference?

[Anonymous No.6436226]

>>6435133
>>6435548

it's good anon, I know it's trad but next time I'd focus on the values some. Here's what I'd do. Ignore the colors, I was trying to get better lighting and values

[Anonymous No.6436233]

LOL

[Anonymous No.6436254]

>>6436233
It's true. AI is for the White Man.

[Anonymous No.6436267]

>>6436173
Not to mention the trigger finger is the same as the ones gripping. It's not even about trigger discipline (who says the guy has any), it's that there's no space for the trigger to exist.

[Anonymous No.6436294]

>>6436055
did you render it with just hrb

[Anonymous No.6436328]

Not gonna lie, I'm on like page 30-32 of Fun With a Pencil and the idea of making and combining simple forms into Loomis' cartoons is slightly beyond my ability. Like I've got plenty of things drawn with his technique but there was pretty much buildup to the switch. I can tell that this switch is the crux of his technique though. Any thoughts? Maybe I need something more like "here's how you draw simple forms in perspective?" I can't make anything look good when I follow Loomis' stuff and it feels like symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.6436374]

>>6436328
>switch
I never read that book. Can you show me the pages in question? I'm curious now!

[Anonymous No.6436459]

>>6436374
I don't have them digitally but up to about page 30 he's like "here's a circle... Here's a sphere... Here's some simple shapes, now see how they all make a rudimentary face?" Then right after practicing that for a while he makes a hard transition into basically low-poly but realistic faces and he's like "try it out!" Like I get where he's coming from but you've ONLY talked about spheres and ellipses, you didn't segue at all into cubes and pyramids, let alone how to combine them or work then with an artist's eye. Feels like you'd need some other skills to make use of this.

[Anonymous No.6436484]

>>6436459
So, it's the origin of "the test of the fucking owl?'

[Anonymous No.6436488]

>>6436459
>Don't have them digitally
You got a camera in your phone, yes?

[Anonymous No.6436517]

>>6436484
I didn't know this was a thing but yeah that's about right.
>>6436488
You'll have to source it digitally, one page doesn't really do it justice. I'd be filling up the thread with pictures of Loomis' book, illustrating his buildup to the "ellipse" technique and then the smash cut to "you can draw polygonal faces right?" section.

[Anonymous No.6436566]

>>6435933

[Anonymous No.6436573]

[Anonymous No.6436591]

>>6436573
NGMI-tier

Are you actually gonna draw anything? Or just keep copying "studies"? Draw something your own.

[Anonymous No.6436594]

anybody going to do the proko drawing basics course when it starts? was thinking of buying it myself

[Anonymous No.6436611]

>>6436591
Are you retarded? Studying is how you get good. Is someone who copies the images of bridgeman, Loomis or Vilppu drawings also NGtMI?

[Anonymous No.6436663]

>>6436611
New meme going around that if you don't draw complete works that means you aren't actually drawing and you are ngmi. Ignore him

[Anonymous No.6436670]

>>6436611
Loomis and Vilppu are memes, just draw instead of wasting times drawing hinges and shit. Look up a dynamic pose on stock images, draw that instead. Much more helpful. What the fuck does drawing circles help with musculature or definition?

>>6436663
>new meme

Found the pre-beg schizo and his drawings.

[Anonymous No.6436688]

>>6436611
>Is someone who copies the images of bridgeman, Loomis or Vilppu drawings also NGtMI?

Correct. Imagine just copying drawing hinges and sticks and squares. What does it matter if you can't even apply it?

[Anonymous No.6436695]

>>6435997
Clean/10

[Anonymous No.6436696]

>>6436688
It's interesting to see you disregard Vilppu some meme and construction drawing as something that isn't applicable, when these are fundamentals taught by masters.

[Anonymous No.6436702]

>Loomis and Vilppu are memes
Meanwhile their books are taught to beginners world wide

[Anonymous No.6436704]

>>6436696
I don't care what any "master" says. Thinking art is something like STEM that is learned methodically is why you're never gonna make it. There is no "right" way, no "set" way. You just draw and hone that craft, gaining and discarding as you go, incorporating new techniques, experimenting. But yeah, you're really good at drawing cubes and hinges and mannequins, and that's the best you'll get.

[Anonymous No.6436707]

>>6436704
You're like the music retard who thinks "learning theory stifles xher creativity"

[Anonymous No.6436711]

>>6436704
>I don't care what any "master" says.
Of course (you) don't

>lines to circles, spheres to boxes. You can add detail to your model bit by bit with this pattern, without getting caught up in the details. ""It's a very natural approach to learning""
I think I'll stick to what the masters say.

[Anonymous No.6436716]

>>6436711
I make more than enough via my Patreon, Ko-Fi, and commissions, and I never studied any "masters", just drew what I wanted to draw. And I agree, stick to being a beginner :)

[Anonymous No.6436719]

>>6436716
Suuuure you do.

[Anonymous No.6436724]

>>6435489
I adjusted the levels so it contrasts more. A lot of the shading is very messy so I repainted stronger shapes over it. Thank you for the help. From now on I should focus on establishing well defined shapes instead of randomly putting down colors

[Anonymous No.6436761]

>>6436716

[Anonymous No.6436886]

>>6432707
do lip studies brother.

[Anonymous No.6436890]

>use drawing tablet
>have to reach over it to manipulate keyboard
>left side gets sore after many hours of drawing
how do I alleviate this? I lean on my side to sort of reduce the strain but it's not a comfortable position
considering getting one of those GAYMER half keyboards just to use with photoshop

[Anonymous No.6436995]

>>6435366
Alright on I’m done.

[Anonymous No.6436997]

>>6436724
This is nice! Great work fixing it anon. Kudos.

[Anonymous No.6437057]

I really want to start copying artists to make my own style but there's so many styles I like and I don't know what to do

[Anonymous No.6437113]

>>6434813
more like DORK and DORKER soj ack ack ack ack

[Anonymous No.6437118]

>>6432606
Is ther anything notably wrong with the angles here?
How do I get the support for the balcony in the left to look in line with the rest of the picture?
And most important of all how do I get my drawings to look visible in photos god damn it.
It's WIP ofc there's going to be more buildings and more doodles of people and shading. I'm proud I made this drawing looks less sterile than other of my vanishing point drawings.

[Anonymous No.6437121]

>>6435828
I mean they could be round cirlces but I doubt it.
Either way aethetically it's better to make then minimal lines.
>>6436213
Thanks!
No blog yet sry

[Anonymous No.6437124]

>>6436066
Take your time and draw the muscles individually.
We can't tell wether you get the underlying anatomy when you stylize.
The arms are too long from what I can tell

[Anonymous No.6437137]

>>6436294
Yeah, basically
It's the only brush i use but i have two variants of it — with and without opacity

[Anonymous No.6437139]

>>6437118
The vanishing points are too close to each other
Pick ones that are off the page, tape some paper underneath it or do it on a bigger size paper underneath
It's really blurry so idk what's going on on the left side but I'd just make up a perspective to make the balcony pop out.
Ink it in with pen or just ballpoint pen WITHOUT a ruler. This will help you the most in the whole drawing process.
Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.6437144]

>>6437137
>>6436055
Always love your stuff even if they're mostly studies.

[Anonymous No.6437167]

followed along the proko med's map video

[Anonymous No.6437183]

I've made a mistake spending years sketching instead of rendering, what are some good ressources to start to learn how to paint?

[Anonymous No.6437189]

>>6437139
Ok yeah I must remake the straight lines up.
Except the house, that's intentional.
Also why do you think the vanish points are too close togheter. Tommorrow I'll take a betterpick and you'll see which balcony I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.6437213]

>>6437183
pyw

[Anonymous No.6437217]

>>6437183
me too anon, I have a solid lineart right in front of me and I'm dreading coloring it

[Anonymous No.6437219]

>>6436995
Well, that's certainly interesting. I'm not trying to be a certain way about it. I just mean it's interesting.

[Anonymous No.6437223]

>>6437183
I have the opposite problem. I'm pretty good at rendering from painting miniatures and now I'm learning to sketch.
You could try buying some coomer minis and paint, but I'm sure there's cheaper ways.

[Anonymous No.6437236]

henlo, looking for critique

[Anonymous No.6437237]

>>6437236

[Anonymous No.6437238]

>>6437237

[Anonymous No.6437240]

>>6437238

[Anonymous No.6437244]

>>6437144
Thank you
It's actually mostly imagination stuff like in this pic only two top left girls were referenced

[Anonymous No.6437247]

>>6436704
Anon seems pretty upset that someone isn't drawing the right way for someone who insists there's no right way, feel free to PYW

[Anonymous No.6437254]

>>6436995
I spend like an hour trying to fiddle with it, but I didn't like it. Most of the issues that I struggled with were the composition, it's an interesting idea, but the elements are placed awkwardly and the framing of the door and the character around this creature don't add much to the overall image.
Also I'd suggest doing some sketching of the creature itself in different views, I couldn't make sense of the how is the pelt placed on the robe, maybe just wrapping it around the neck and shoulder would work. Also the arms and overall pose of the creature have a weird read, it's both perspective and pose to be honest, I'd advice drawing the overall structure before even rendering it, thinking about the creature size and it's relationship with other elements should be a priority as well.
The christmas tree is interesting and detailed but next to the creature is competing for the attention, as it's an overcast setting it becomes hard to balance things out but a cheap trick is lowering the saturation on less important elements.
Those snowflakes and other photoshop effects bring down the quality of the image, I'd remove them. The silhouette of that character could be a kid, but I'd still make it bigger, it doesn't add much to the image atm.
Overall it has nice ideas, the background, the tree, the brushes and texturing in those looks decent, but it's affected by the composition itself and doesn't mesh well in some areas, practice your composition with small thumbnails, that way you don't commit and avoid spending hours trying to salvage it, look at movies frames for inspo.
One last thing, think about the mood or what you want people to feel from your image, I don't know if it's intending to be horror or just mysterious or strange, but I don't feel in any particular way about it. See paintings related to the themes you want to have as reference, it could help, overcast settings are kind of hard to do so there's nothing wrong with using direct reference for it.

[Anonymous No.6437270]

>>6436216
Dunno. its just a book of poses i had lying around. the models are all women.
>>6437124
Thank you. Is there a particular way im supposed to be doing this? Im trying to learn to simplify at first and then be able to draw any angle i want. people like marc brunet/krenz make me jealous

[Anonymous No.6437345]

I just tried painting this, it got weirder looking as I went on.

[Anonymous No.6437376]

>>6437121
Okay thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.6437377]

I don't know what that picture was supposed to be about

[Anonymous No.6437389]

>>6437240
shameless self bump

[Anonymous No.6437410]

>>6437377
This composition looks much better. The picture is just a Mari lwyd coming to your home trying to get drunk(sing for your alcohol) and celebrate Christmas with you. I wasn’t aiming for a creepy or strange mood, it wasn’t originally meant to be a full image. Just a single character.

It’s just a horse skull on a broomstick. It doesn’t have arms and usually a group of guys are with it. I was paid to make this, and all they asked for was a character. There wasn’t any directives given besides that. No background etc. My goal was to make it look cute and have it done by Christmas. Big eyes, big head, small body. I should of pushed the head to body ratio. It’s usually 7ft or more tall. But I wanted it to be small like a child.
>>6437254
Your advice is great, and I’ll keep it in mind. I’d try to redo the entire composition but I don’t think I’d be finished in time. But I’ve been looking it over repeatedly trying to see if I can do little fixes. Thank you again.
Maybe they’ll commission me again to do a character design with goals in mind.

[Anonymous No.6437428]

Comparing a skilled art mutual I admire to my own art, what do you think I am lacking when it comes to speed and general knowledge of the body? Right now I only do 1-2 minutes long gesture drawings for 20 minutes on and off, and I am just 40 pages into "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention". Outside of those two, I don't have much proper practice when it comes to figure drawing knowledge (for now I am focusing on Perspective made easy, 50 pages in and I am understanding everything fine + my sense of space is developing quickly). Also, should I limit myself to gesture drawing like other people recommended me to do in the past? I'd honestly side-study proper anatomy and get used to full blown observational drawings of the body that can take up to 1 hour too.

[Anonymous No.6437440]

>>6437428
You know how you get better at Chess? You play long games where you have the opportunity to think deeply, and then spend hours analyzing each of those games to find your mistakes. This will naturally make your blitz chess better, even though you aren't directly training speed. The reverse is not true, and it's the same with drawing. Taking 3+ hours to work on a study should be the norm, not a sign of weakness. Some of my best studies from the last year I would say took between 20-40 hours. Once you learn how to work deeply, your quicker gestural work will naturally improve.

[Anonymous No.6437443]

>>6437428
What she >>6437440 said
Speed should be secondary and a result of practice with all things.

[Anonymous No.6437509]

>>6437254
>>6437377
How does this come across?

I’m attempting to make your perspective as the adult opening the door to a very loud and annoying Mari lwyd. Maybe it looks so off is because it’s the center of the image and it wasn’t very expressive?

[Anonymous No.6437555]

Does anyone have any good 'year in review' templates? I want to see how much I've regressed.

[Anonymous No.6437562]

working on something for a friend, any critics?

[Anonymous No.6437586]

>>6437562
Her lower body is much smaller/thinner than her upper body.

[Anonymous No.6437608]

>>6437586
thanks, its failed foreshortening i think

[Anonymous No.6437614]

>>6437608
oops dropped the picture. Looks much better now, thank you

[Anonymous No.6437650]

>>6437509
Yes, is generally adviced not to have your focal elements on the center, it just makes everything feel disjointed.
Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYOox8E8ohc&ab_channel=MarcoBucci
It's important you figure your elements in the painting as much as how the light is gonna play out, if it's something nice or wholesome, the kind of thing you'd see in a children's book, then you may want to have some warms in there, obviously an overcast scene is gonna prove difficult to give you that, so you either fake a light source, or make it night time and enhace that warm. There are ways to make an overcast scene look cozy, like a clean composition. I think >>6437377 is a safe way to go, and definitely having the character next to the door cutting that boring 90 degree angle is interesting enough to lead the eye between the two elements interacting. Yours right now is a bit strange because the hand in the other side makes for some impossible anatomy on the character between the door frame and the door with the person.
I'd play with the pose of the creature a little bit more and point it's face towards the person at the door, if it was holding something or doing some sort of playful gesture that'd be a nice addition as well, find reference for cheering or singing poses.
I'd also advice looking at Devin Korwin's Creative Fundamentals Vol.1, it's a PDF file and you can find it in a book thread around here, it deals with some fundamentals knowledge artists should have even before painting anything.

[Anonymous No.6437680]

>>6437650
Thanks a ton. I definitely won’t be able to get this done by Christmas but hopefully she’ll like what I submit to her.
I haven’t done thumbnailing before. I usually draw the character then the scene around them. And that’s obviously why the composition is bland.
Another thing I see wrong is I don’t have a mood color set. I try to go for realism instead of mood and that’s killing my art. I noticed all the more cartoony artists I follow all thumbnail before they draw too.
The guy in the video described a lot of the bad habits I have. Thank you so much for the help. Merry Christmas!

[Anonymous No.6437689]

How do I not use alcohol markers like a retard? I try shading with them and it's like I get the same value no matter what pressure I apply

[Anonymous No.6437766]

>>6437680
Just forgot to mention, remember you can play with your canvas size and ratio, it's very common for artisits to use the standard A4 canvas size vertical/horizontal but there are more options, this will directly affect your overall composition in terms of what you can or can't do within your limited space (more on that on Devin's book), it's worth to keep an eye out for that, it will flex your composition muscle. Also keep an eye for perspective, the horizon line and the angle of your camera "shot", as previously mentioned movies deal with this and provide some masterfully execution that's very valuable to study as an artist (google "FilmGrab"just look out for good movies and shows, even animation, there's an overlap as you may have noticed), as for a YouTube channel, Moderdayjames is a good place to learn from, Perspective Made Easy book is a friendly introduction as well, and Marshal Vandruff's 1994 course should have you covered on the basics.
Good luck and Merry Christmas to you too anon.

[Anonymous No.6437820]

>ask a simple question in Twitter replies to a piece of art
>they 100% saw it because there were only two and they liked the other one
>ignored
Shit like this makes me want to rope

[Anonymous No.6437842]

>>6432606
Finally started fundies. Found a video did the basic tutorial, blender doughnut equivalent
Did it turn out ok? I think if I try to do a pose once a day I should hopefully improve

[Anonymous No.6437869]

Working on construction, mostly following along with Moderndayjames while referencing Bridgman and I'm getting some good results. Still need to work on understanding my landmarks though.

[Anonymous No.6437874]

>>6437869
That is good how long did it take you to get to that level

[Anonymous No.6437878]

>>6437874
I've been seriously studying since August, with some gaps here and there due to illness or exhaustion
The fundies are the longest mile, don't get discouraged if you feel stuck

[Anonymous No.6437881]

[Anonymous No.6437922]

[Anonymous No.6437934]

Didn't have time to draw Bridgman today but I was able to color a picture with my niece.

[Anonymous No.6438020]

>>6437934
Human contact>>>grinding
Good on you, anon.

[Anonymous No.6438035]

merry christmas begbros. this is what i am currently practicing. i levelled up portrait wise, but i think i have to step back and focus more on perspective and line economy. finding planes in bigger shapes is getting easier. also really proud of the birb.
>>6437881
really cool
>>6437934
based

[Anonymous No.6438044]

>>6438035
I like the birb too

[Anonymous No.6438107]

new drip? ima add hair later but what yall think abt the desgin?

[Anonymous No.6438416]

>>6432606
I really should kill myself and do a flip.

[Anonymous No.6438419]

>>6438416
Porqueeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.6438421]

>>6438416
why your verticals are in a revers perspective, it was already pointed out to you

[Anonymous No.6438437]

>>6438416
Merry christmas by the way.

[Anonymous No.6438445]

>>6438421
Ok I do need to change that leaning house. My fault for being lazy.

[Anonymous No.6438690]

thumbnailing with random image

[Anonymous No.6438805]

>>6436566
Just going to bump my drawing and hope somebody critiques it and tells me where I could improve.

[Anonymous No.6438827]

Hey /ic/
I'm having a hard time drawing the eyes and nose and would appreciate if someone could point me towards a course or book. I already used Steve Huston's head course and while it helped me with drawing the head shape I feel lost with the features.
Proko wasn't very useful.

[Anonymous No.6438855]

>>6438827
Try Giovanni Civardi - Drawing Portraits Faces And Figures or Gary Faigin - The Artists Complete Guide To Facial Expression, maybe Burne Hogarth - Drawing the Human Head

[Anonymous No.6438860]

>>6438805
well, it's a picture of a skelly holding a scythe and it looks like you considered value when you drew it. so, that's good, you're able to draw readable subject matter and it conveys a message! what is probably putting people off from commenting is that it's not a current sketch or work. you have a lot of options in which will lead to rapid improvement and it all comes down to learning and applying fundies. take a look at the sticky and watch some videos on perspective. looking forward to seeing more skellies (or boxes) from you.

[Anonymous No.6438871]

>>6438805
the design of the character is cool, but everything else needs to be addressed, right now it's looking 2d and much like symbol drawing, you have a basic sense about the existence of light and shadow, but this doesn't reflect on the forms or the angle of a light source. Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo&ab_channel=Proko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dqGkHWC5IU&ab_channel=Proko
Try to get familiar with constructing objects with basic shapes thinking about 3D space, and dip your feet into perspective, 1 and 2 point will directly benefit the way you see objects in space, it's a good idea to invest your time in it. When you get a better feel for space, as practice you should try to change your view from a side to a top down a view, generally you want something in the middle of those. Try drawing objects around the house and get familiar with this idea, pic related is an example of a good angle to practice, instead of flat and frontal view.
Shading gets a little a bit more complicated, but if you understand the basics you'll develop a sense for which values belong on your form depending on where the planes are facing, think about it as a low poly model first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw&ab_channel=MarcoBucci
I'd suggest to hammer these concepts as much as you can, and then when you're good at that start studying reference directly, like the human skeleton (and whatever you want to draw), obviously try parts of it, not everything at once, it takes time, but you'll understand its strucutre and will naturally move away from symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.6438929]

>>6437440
Based chess anon.
Brb going on a 5 hour blitz binge, surely this will get me closer to breaking 1800 chess.com rapid.

[Anonymous No.6438951]

>>6436566
It's asymmetric and not in a good way, it feels like it wasn't planned much. The scythe isn't very straight and woobly which adds onto the feeling of the drawing not being planned.
The skull looks off, is he supposed to be looking down? if so then it lacks any kind of perspective
>>6436066
If you want to study male anatomy then use a man posing or else you're going to do a lot of guestimation

[Anonymous No.6438960]

I'm 25M. How do I become a nude model for a qt art girl?

[Anonymous No.6438998]

>>6432606
My art idol liked my post on Twitter this morning. Not a reply to his work but my own work. I was shocked when I saw the notification. I'm still pretty damn /beg/.
Best Christmas gift I've ever gotten.

[Anonymous No.6439016]

>>6438960
work out and act very gay

[Anonymous No.6439101]

>got a screenless wacom tablet for christmas
i'm hoping to still do pen and paper drawings especially since i'm new but it'll be nice having easy access to layers, a color wheel, screentones/effects, and the like

[Anonymous No.6439134]

Opinions? Should i change something?

[Anonymous No.6439210]

>try drawabox
>find out I can't draw lines for shit
>get bored
>doodle
I rack disciprine.

[Anonymous No.6439212]

First time using soft pastels

[Anonymous No.6439220]

>>6438690
man I really need to start incorporating rendering into my sketches, where did you learn to do it on digital?

[Anonymous No.6439227]

Why are all of you so shit at art you should kill myselves!

[Anonymous No.6439250]

[Anonymous No.6439253]

>>6439227
How to draw from immigration

[Anonymous No.6439307]

Help, I started learning and now I can't stop trying to parse everything I look at into geometrical objects.

[Anonymous No.6439318]

>>6439307
I think this happens to everyone. It's weird watching movies now because I notice anatomy more on people

[Anonymous No.6439361]

Hello BEG. In the past 5 days i have drawn once. I have to stop this NGMI course and go back into GMI grind! Happy holidays!

>>6439307
just wait until you start measuring everybody if they are 7 heads tall or more
>>6439250
cute anime girl
>>6439210
drawbox is only for the hardcore autists, pick up better course/book. Yes every single one of them is better just because it is making you to draw more appealing things
>>6439101
anon... you forgot to pyw your first digital doodle
>>6438998
good for you anon! but now you have to post that work
>>6438827
if you struggle to draw X then find reference of X and draw what you see. Its all about observation and trusting your eyes
>>6438416
Its very BEG like but nothing horrible. Next time dont put vanishing points so close to each other. Usually only 1 VP can fit onto your canvas, the other 2 are always out of it so you have to imagine them in distance while pointing the lines towards them
>>6438107
looks like normal medieval hero to me + bald
>>6438035
looking good
>>6437689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Xup7hsnA0
>>6437240
The critique i can offer is that you are one of the "real" artists who go for the feeling first and foremost and low-key ignore any technique like composition or ability to convey the message. Try to ease up on the special effects and put less stuff into your pictures while making sure at least the main object is recognizable. Remember: less is more. Be elegant and with less noise and less objects on the canvas try to tell the same message. Out of the 4 pieces i only like the man with planet instead of head. But its so fuzzy and weirdly cropped so even that has room for improvement
>>6437167
except the fuzzy edges its very solid and soulful apple
>>6437057
sort the artists, make your top 10. Then merge the styles into one or two?
>>6436890
put the keyboard sideways?
>>6436328
i think loomis book at the starts tells you to read perspective book first. Try Dynamic Bible by Peter Han
>>6435997
INT

[Anonymous No.6439363]

Trying to do vector art / logos / funny chibi shit BUT UPSCALING THE PICTURE MESSED WITH IT.

please give feedback tho

[Anonymous No.6439385]

>>6439363
It's cute desu

[Anonymous No.6439399]

Gettin there bruhs

[Anonymous No.6439422]

[Anonymous No.6439450]

Do you think colour picking is okay for just starting to learn colours? I tried to get the colours right with my eye but that wasn't going anywhere

[Anonymous No.6439454]

>>6432606
Is there anything I should change before continuing further? Going for a Venus body

[Anonymous No.6439466]

>>6439454
Cut the torso slightly lengthwise

[Anonymous No.6439486]

>>6439363
It's cute are you a girl by any chance haha?

[Anonymous No.6439495]

How many hours of practice does it take to escape symbol drawing?

[Anonymous No.6439496]

>>6439495
have you tried the upside-down thing?

[Anonymous No.6439497]

>>6439495
Good taste hope you make it, draw circles tubes and boxes, don’t even think of adding details not even clothes. Just create the main frame then add from there. You don’t build a house by painting the nonexistent walls first

[Anonymous No.6439505]

Is crosshatching the only way to shade using straight lines?

[Anonymous No.6439540]

>>6439361
Yeah I usually put the other vanishing point (still haven'tfigured out how the third one is supposed to work) out of the drawing itself but I had a retard moment and decided to try 2 very close ones to see what woukd happen. I'll try drawing a monument next time or conversely try to do gesture. No Idea how to do gesture but I'll try to google it.

[Anonymous No.6439553]

I feel kinda silly jumping into really unfamiliar shapes like kemono with more cartoonish shapes when I can't properly draw human bodies/hands...

[Anonymous No.6439613]

Day 3 on Peter Han

[Anonymous No.6439619]

>>6439212
my final message

[Anonymous No.6439625]

>>6432606
anons how does this look

[Anonymous No.6439627]

>>6436591
lmao most anons have already developed their style before they can even reach high /int/ which ironically is the sole reason why they will always stagnate.

[Anonymous No.6439639]

>>6433116
you see those dark spots on top of the mountain yet they are invisible in your painting. don't be afraid of contrast. shape your objects with values and not contours like you did with the building spike

[Anonymous No.6439643]

>>6439625
that's a very nice self protrait

[Anonymous No.6439645]

[Anonymous No.6439688]

>>6439645
HEY!
You can't do that!
Three drawings on one image what are you doing?

[Anonymous No.6439727]

>>6439385
>>6439486
yea but im a brown girl from brazil so no white guys want me

[Anonymous No.6439731]

>>6439727
Didn't ask but ok...

[Anonymous No.6439759]

Question
How do I improve my proportions??
Every time I draw something it seems off like I feel that body parts that I draw are off in comparison to other body parts

[Anonymous No.6439763]

Trad chads ww@?
been enjoying some doodling lately. Gonna start practicing watercolor and inking next year

[Anonymous No.6439775]

>>6439763
I like the rodent thing, it looks like a tiny tapir.

[Anonymous No.6439780]

[Anonymous No.6439819]

>>6439422
The lines coming out of the crotch ruin it. Makes it feel juvenile.

[Anonymous No.6439834]

>>6437614
Cool, now her arms look too thin. But this is looking good.

[Anonymous No.6439839]

>>6439819
Thank you, do you think it would read like she's having an orgasm without it? (yes I know that's not how it works)
>>6439780
I think the edge on the head should be softer

[Anonymous No.6439853]

>>6439763
I really like the way you draw faces.

[Anonymous No.6439891]

>>6439839
The concept is a hat on a hat. Pick one thing to draw.

[Anonymous No.6439898]

>>6439763
>trad
Doodle using (surprisingly good) cheap pen and notepad while my wife cooked breakfast.
I'm starting to feel like I just need to keep cranking these out as they get slightly less shitty over time.

[Anonymous No.6439906]

>>6439839
>do you think it would read like she's having an orgasm without it?
If you want to make it more explicit, add curled toes.

[Anonymous No.6439910]

I colored my chicken.

[Anonymous No.6439927]

second try on drapery rate

[Anonymous No.6439933]

>>6439910
Nice cock bro

[Anonymous No.6439949]

And then sit like this happens. I put I lot of time into something shitty just because practice, but I do a bad job because it's already shit, but I want to finish it.
I think it's time to draw from a photo reference again. I don't enjoy it, but it makes a less shitty result.

[Anonymous No.6439958]

>>6439949
Stop drawing faces, you're too beg for it, period.
You're chicken scratching, symbol drawing and smearing shading everywhere praying that it works (it doesn't)
You need to start really simple. Practice drawing straight lines, circles and ovals. Move on to simple shapes/structures like boxes, spheres and cylinders afterwards (check out simple perspective rules for this).
Don't even think about shading and coloring before that.

[Anonymous No.6439966]

Got Bridgman's book for Christmas. I don't quite understand what he means with rhythm, does anyone have a clearer explanation of what he means?

[Anonymous No.6439970]

>>6439958
don't waste your breath bro he's a lost cause

[Anonymous No.6439972]

>>6439966
You're not suppose to read the words, but basically it means opposing curves

[Anonymous No.6439980]

>>6439970
I see. I'm hardly on /ic/ these days, so I don't know the new resident schizos/crabs. Thanks for the heads up.

[Anonymous No.6439985]

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[Anonymous No.6440049]

>>6439927
sex

[Anonymous No.6440052]

>>6439970
t.permabeg crab nigger
>>6439980
I'm on here less than you.

[Anonymous No.6441599]

>>6435112
gross