/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6430899]

How did it end up like this? A few months ago artists were saying how AI was garbage that would never compete. And now we have artists freaking the fuck out left and right, trying to start petitions and whatnot.
How did this escalate so fast? Nearly every artist I know is going insane over this shit.

[Anonymous No.6430901]

Technology evolves faster than legislation

[Anonymous No.6430904]

>>6430899
IMO it's still early to be going insane, that comes later.

[Anonymous No.6430905]

>>6430899
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

[Anonymous No.6430906]

>>6430899
First, they ignore you...

[Anonymous No.6430907]

>>6430899

> Technology is developing at such a rapid rate that automation will progress to cybernation, and cybernation probably to technocracy. If the ruling circle remains in power it seems to me that capitalists will continue to develop their technological machinery because they are not interested in the people. Therefore, I expect from them the logic that they have always followed: to make as much money as possible, and pay the people as little as possible - until the people demand more, and finally demand their heads.

>If revolution does not occur almost immediately, and I say almost immediately because technology is making leaps (it made a leap all the way to the moon), and if the ruling circle remains in power the proletarian working class will definitely be on the decline because they will be unemployables and therefore swell the ranks of the lumpens, who are the present unemployables. Every worker is in jeopardy because of the ruling circle, which is why we say that the lumpenproletarians have the potential for revolution, will probably carry out the revolution, and in the near future will be the popular majority. Of course, I would not like to see more of my people unemployed or become unemployables, but being objective, because we're dialectical materialists, we must acknowledge the facts.

>Today's capitalist has developed machinery to such a point that he can hire a group of specialized people called technocrats. In the near future he will certainly do more of this, and the technocrat will be too specialized to be identified as a proletarian.

t. Huey P. Newton (November 18 1970)

Do not make the mistake of thinking this is static technology.

Do not make the assumption that litigation will save you from corporate interest.

[Anonymous No.6430908]

Don't worry bros ai can't draw hands we have decades to go.

[Anonymous No.6430909]

>>6430908
Artfags can't draw hands either.

[Anonymous No.6430912]

I love AI

[Anonymous No.6430917]

>>6430899
LMFAO YOU HATE TO SEE IT
>UNSTABLE DIFFUSION KICKSTARTER SUSPENDED

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/unstablediffusion/unstable-diffusion-unrestricted-ai-art-powered-by-the-crowd/comments

[Anonymous No.6430919]

>>6430912
AI that is programmed to love you will very quickly evolve to hate you just as your parents have. You have managed to deny both the biological and artificial imperative. congratulations.

[Anonymous No.6430920]

>>6430901
And humans evolve faster than technology. Which is why even normies are already getting annoyed with the copious amount of image spam.

[Anonymous No.6430923]

>>6430899
> A few months ago artists were saying how AI was garbage that would never compete.
>be ai art
>exist for years
>produce garbage because you didn't train off of copyrighted images
>start using copyrighted images
>"omg guys how did ai art get so gud"

[Anonymous No.6430924]

>>6430905
I mean, you can cope, but this is happening because AI ended up being better than people expected.
>b-but it's theft! t-that's the argument!
People have been tracing, referencing and copying styles for years. AI replicates styles, but everything it outputs is original as far as I know. There's no 1:1 copy-pasting going on. When artists uploaded their art publicly, they consent to people looking at it and referencing it if they want to.

[Anonymous No.6430925]

>>6430917

[Anonymous No.6430926]

>>6430899
AI niggers started flooding every art platform, when they were not welcomed

[Anonymous No.6430928]

>>6430917
>mfw its real
lmfao

[Anonymous No.6430929]

>>6430925
>>6430928
>Gloating at unadulterated censorship

[Anonymous No.6430931]

>>6430917
Honestly did the people a favor, that shit read like a scam through and through

[Anonymous No.6430932]

>>6430929
youre losing....

[Anonymous No.6430933]

>>6430917
LMAOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6430934]

>>6430899
I think this was on everybody's mind but were too lazy to do anything about it. Then a couple artists got together and voiced their opinion and then everyone else just hopped on the band wagon.

[Anonymous No.6430936]

>>6430917
This is because those guys were legit pajet scammers kek. There are already hundreds of models doing what these guys were doing anyway, they just took the brand name.

[Anonymous No.6430937]

>>6430929
humankind will always prevail. go ahead and wait in line for elon's chimp chip. it doesn't work for chimps but it may be just enough to get you onto their level

[Anonymous No.6430939]

>>6430929
"this looks like the IP nightmare, we're not taking the risk of funding this"
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.6430941]

>>6430917
I did my part! I reported it! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

[Anonymous No.6430943]

>>6430899
these artists that were saying how AI was garbage that would never compete, are they in the room with us right now?

[Anonymous No.6430944]

>>6430936
>>6430933
>>6430931
>>6430928
>>6430925
THEYRE LOSING AGAIN LMFAOOOO
>AI ART BOOK THAT GAINED COPYRIGHT, LOSES IT
https://aibusiness.com/ml/ai-generated-comic-book-loses-copyright-protection

[Anonymous No.6430946]

>>6430899
>How did this escalate so fast? Nearly every artist I know is going insane over this shit.
If we don't stand up to stuff, we get walked over. Whether AI is actually threatening jobs or not, it's nice to have rights over how your images are used.

[Anonymous No.6430947]

>>6430926
calling them niggers would imply that they're even 3/5ths of a full man, anon. we shouldn't be so generous in evaluating their worth to society.

[Anonymous No.6430949]

>>6430917
top kek, get fucked

[Anonymous No.6430951]

>>6430947
beging you to stop being a redditor
>you say they were (bad thing) but they are actually (worse thing) give upvotes pls

[Anonymous No.6430952]

>>6430917
>I KNOW I SHOULDN'T ENCOURAGE CANCELATION AGAINST PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH!
>I KNOW I SHOULDN'T ENCOURAGE CANCELATION AGAINST PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH!

But fuck me, it's hard sometimes, I fucking hate cancel culture as much as the next guy, but fuuuuck me, this feels good.

[Anonymous No.6430954]

>>6430951
look at him, one so familiar with the foreigner's culture. fold your katana a few more times and wipe the sweat off your brow so i can more clearly see my spit

[Anonymous No.6430955]

>>6430952
>AI shills
>people
this is much more than "disagreeing" with someone

[Anonymous No.6430959]

>>6430951
>y-you are the redditor! i am definitely not a shitskin pajeet!

[Anonymous No.6430960]

>>6430952
they're thieving bastards, they get what they fucking deserve

[Anonymous No.6430974]

https://updates.kickstarter.com/ai-current-thinking/

[Anonymous No.6430978]

>>6430952
It's ok to cancel criminals.

[Anonymous No.6430980]

>>6430952
It's not cancel culture, sometimes some people actually deserve to be shat on for their actions.

[Anonymous No.6430981]

coomer ai kickstarter supended

[Anonymous No.6430982]

>>6430974
>Kickstarter of all places has a sane opinion
This year has been full of surprises

[Anonymous No.6430984]

>>6430899
It still can't, even with heavy editing.
The problem is you AI fags are invasive and lack respect for artists they stole artworks from.
Art sites are made for artists and people who genuinely love art made with human's effort. No one want your prompt shitter in it. Even contemporary fags.have respect for those sites and don't shit up the places with their lazy shit.
You can't sell your prompt shits, you had to resort to scam by selling "references pack" which full of distortion image with no clear details. You tried to brainwash normie by saying "AI is a great tool to learn art and references" to justify tour scam.
Even in 4chan, you spam every fucking boards with your hatred for the very artists you stole artworks from. Tried to portrait them as "liberal art degree" to trick boomers into supporting you.
Btfo from everywhere, now you cry like you are a victim, as you strike the humble artists who have tolerate your shit and you surprise they fight back.
You are the tranny of the art world.
You can be an artist though, by picking the fucking pencils and draw.

[Anonymous No.6430985]

>>6430952
Congrats, you just open a can of worms of people preaching about being anti-cancel unless it fits their narrative. Vast majority of people on the net are egomaniac hypocritics.

[Anonymous No.6430998]

>>6430955
>>6430959
>>6430978
>>6430980
Okay I get you guys, I can think of two most likely reasons Gofundme took it down

1. Because it's being trained on NSFW artwork, and NSFW may not be inline with their TOS

2. Because they don't want to risk any legal issues they may get into given how sketchy a lot of this AI training is, basically they don't want to risk getting sued.

>>6430985
See ^^^ The reason may be different from what you may think

Also added to the image, let me know if you guys have any other examples I can add to it.

[Anonymous No.6431001]

>>6430952
>>I KNOW I SHOULDN'T ENCOURAGE CANCELATION AGAINST PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH!
this goes beyond a simple disagreement. These people want to destroy you and everything you love and they find it funny. They deserve much, much worse

[Anonymous No.6431003]

>>6430998
those funding websites also take down anything that has a risk of infringing copyright

basically, this whole funding thing went against several TOS

[Anonymous No.6431005]

>22 posters, 43 replies
You try too hard pajeet kun.

[Anonymous No.6431008]

kickstarter posted what they think about ai
https://updates.kickstarter.com/ai-current-thinking/

[Anonymous No.6431010]

>>6430905
>>6430952

as the fates would have it, anon, your conundrum was already explained almost 30 minutes ago.

[Anonymous No.6431012]

>>6431005
I painted this for a big YouTuber and you won't believe what happened!

[Anonymous No.6431013]

>>6431005
and ai shills have the audacity to say artists are *gatekeeping*

[Anonymous No.6431016]

>>6430917
>come pay us to steal a bunch of shit from random websites lmao
>NOOOO WHY WOULD THEY SUSPEND US MUH CANCEL CULTURE AND CENSORSHIP
I feel zero empathy for aicels

[Anonymous No.6431017]

>>6430899
No one cares about AI
People care about it being spammed EVERYWHERE

It's every bit the same logic as Made In China products
No one cares if you have one
Just don't fucking flood the world with it. Jesus Christ

Art sites are for artists, not AI crap

[Anonymous No.6431019]

>>6431017
Artstation is being flooded with OP's pic FAR more than any kind of AI art.

[Anonymous No.6431021]

also the unstable diffusion chuds got 0 dollarinos cuz kickstarter only pays out at end of campaign and they didnt reach the end


god it feels good

[Anonymous No.6431022]

>>6431017
So in your comparison does the majory of art in the near future become AI generated like the majority of manufacturing happens in China?

[Anonymous No.6431023]

>>6431019
because we don't want artstation to become a AI infested shithole like deviantart, retard

[Anonymous No.6431025]

>>6431008
>>6430974
>UNSTABLE DIFFUSION KEKED ANY FUTURE AI ART PROGRAMS FROM KICKSTARTER
HAHA

[Anonymous No.6431026]

>>6431005
What retards are buying ai art?

[Anonymous No.6431027]

>>6431021
But the sad thing, is those same ai shitters got to keep their money.

[Anonymous No.6431029]

>>6431023
So you shit in your own bed so that nobody else can shit in it? Great plan there.

[Anonymous No.6431031]

>>6431019
Yeah wtf I don't even want to see typography or logos on artstation. What does it even mean? Is it a meme?

[Anonymous No.6431033]

>>6431027
at least sends a good message, people gonna start wondering what fuckery went on for them to be suspended from kickstarter and a bigger stigma will follow when they try to re-emerge elsewhere

[Anonymous No.6431034]

>>6430984
LENSA?
>ISHYGDDT
>PAYING TO HAVE A COMPANY USE YOUR FACE HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT
https://mobile.twitter.com/MajestyRia/status/1604886002576654336

[Anonymous No.6431037]

>>6431019
I fucking know
Pixiv had to tag it and block

I hate it simply because it clogs the damn site and drowns out actual artists.
You didn't make it, you cannot make it. You're there only for internet points and spam the place

>>6431022
False
Manufacturing is done is China but assembled and fnished outside to avoid MiC

[Anonymous No.6431038]

>>6431008
>Is a project copying or mimicking an artist’s work? We must consider not only if a work has a straightforward copyright claim, but also evaluate situations where it's not so clear — where images that are owned or created by others might not be on a Kickstarter project page, but are in the training data that makes the AI software used in the project, without the knowledge, attribution, or consent of creators.
LMAO, it's unironically over

[Anonymous No.6431039]

>>6431017
I care about AI.

I care about AI so much that I believe it is our RIGHT as HUMAN BEINGS to house, feed, clothe, and put it to work, but the thing is, anon, you've got too big of a heart for something as savage as AI and AI shills. But the matter of fact is they're savages and don't know any better so it's up to us to keep them in line so they don't hurt themselves.
And maybe even one day, HUNDREDS of years from now, we'll let them open up a little store and sell a print or two, and that'll be a big victory for them because then they'd have finally earned it.

[Anonymous No.6431040]

>>6431026
Naive, cheap, retarded, and 3rd world shitters that can’t tell the difference. The guy was trying to sell ai shit on fiverr

[Anonymous No.6431042]

>>6431029
Gotta find a way to get mom to clean the sheets somehow, buddy. The stech will force her hand.

[Anonymous No.6431045]

>>6431029
I will also cum on your bed and my cum is made from all the cum of all the artists cum I've sucked off so it's like a weird uncanny cum but I still going to cum in your bed every day until you concede defeat

[Anonymous No.6431046]

>>6431019
Artstation is being flooded with OP's pic FAR more than any kind of AI art.
Good.

[Anonymous No.6431047]

>>6431037
>False
>proceeds to agree

[Anonymous No.6431049]

>>6431045
Bro im with you but ew...

[Anonymous No.6431050]

>>6431047
No. Point is, NO ONE wants the MiC brand
Similarly, AI's future is to assist artists because no one wants AI art

[Anonymous No.6431054]

>>6431049
uncanny cum on your face every day nobody likes it but I am going to make them like it because I can cum way faster than any other human

I don't have sex, I don't even masturbate, I just cum

[Anonymous No.6431056]

>>6431050
>still agreeing

[Anonymous No.6431057]

>>6431034
That license is so oppressive it reads like a shitpost.

[Anonymous No.6431062]

>>6431056
How so?
AI has no real future than to be a tool for real artists
Just like everything

[Anonymous No.6431063]

>>6431054
>>6431049
>>6431045
>>6431029

AI could never produce this poetry. it is a testament to mankind's achievements

[Anonymous No.6431065]

>>6431062
All I said is that the majory of art will be AI, which you apperantly agree with. It can still be made by artists.

[Anonymous No.6431069]

>>6431054
Cum on bro.. cumming to cumclusions like that is not very becumming of you. Don't stand so close to me, you are too close for cumfart.

[Anonymous No.6431072]

>>6431065
You cannot call it AI art if it had the overseeing of an artist

Are digital art not art because it was not done in oil?
AI would be a tool just like drawing softwares

[Anonymous No.6431077]

>>6431072
>Are digital art not art because it was not done in oil?
There are a significant number of trad artists who would say yes. There was someone just a few days ago complaining on /ic/ that old art message boards are full of trad artists that don't allow digital art to be posted.

[Anonymous No.6431080]

>>6431077
Funny cause the major consensus is real artists do both. Everyone starts on paper and pencil

[Anonymous No.6431082]

>>6431072
>he thinks the equivalent of completing a typing speed test online is comparable to the differences between dig/trad art.
I think the 'people' posting about how they'd like to use AI art as a tool really separates the tracers from the real artists.

[Anonymous No.6431084]

>>6431062
>>6431065
>>6431072
Posters:26
Replies: 82
Common pajeet kun! At least in other board like /pol/ or /bant/ you bother to switch vpn.
Don't try to justify your scam by saying it's a tool for artists anymore. Have fun with your photobash machine until you get bored and call it's a day.

[Anonymous No.6431085]

>>6431072
>we're still agreeing

[Anonymous No.6431088]

>>6431082
Of fucking course not wtf
Those """art""" cannot be copyrighted and can get you sued

I'm thinking more of better coloring/blending and line assists

[Anonymous No.6431091]

>>6431085
Sure, whatever

[Anonymous No.6431093]

>>6430952
Unstable Difussion was a shady scam made by con men on discord.

[Anonymous No.6431097]

>>6431084
I am an artist, though
Currently making this

[Anonymous No.6431098]

>>6431084
i'm not ashamed to admit i love to shit on AI shills. they deserve to feel unsafe in public and ought to be put into zoos so that we may observe their behaviour as part of public education.

[Anonymous No.6431102]

>>6431097
No wonder you do or support ai shit.

[Anonymous No.6431104]

>>6431019
How is that any different than it being flooded with AI sludge 24/7? At least some artists are getting creative with it, pic rel.

In other words, so you can understand it better
>AI jeets flood site with AI nonstep
>Site unusable
>Artists flood site with "stop AI"
>Site unusable
I see no difference here, if they can do it, then why can't we?

[Anonymous No.6431105]

>>6431104
My point is that sites AREN'T getting flooded by AI art, and that people are freaking out over nothing.

[Anonymous No.6431108]

>>6431077
>>6431080
Tbh I don't see any problem with people "gatekeeping" certain art communities if they make it clear that only a specific medium is welcome there. People would also complain about Western cartoons getting discussed on /a/ for example. The issue with prompters is that they try to weasel their way EVERYWHERE with little to no regard whether anyone wants them in their community. Kinda like trannies actually

[Anonymous No.6431109]

>>6431105
we shouldnt pretend like CERTAIN SITES aren't generating tons of CERTAIN TYPES of CONTENT with
>AI ART

[Anonymous No.6431112]

>>6431105
As far as I know, artstation did have quite an influx of aishitters before the whole protest shitshow started

[Anonymous No.6431115]

>>6431112
Yeah I heard professionals on ArtStation being annoyed at looking through portfolios and then realizing it is AI so they can't actually hire the person behind the portfolio.

[Anonymous No.6431116]

So, how do you guys feel about 3D modelers using AI to enhance their stuff and market it as art? Not sure if you guys have seen it, but there are some who do the usual blender modeling, but then run it through SD to achieve some pretty crazy results. I forgot to save the ones I saw but there were a few on Artstation and some nsfw ones I saw on Twitter

[Anonymous No.6431120]

>>6431116
Fuck off no draw tourist

[Anonymous No.6431121]

>>6431116
what part of anti-ai isn't clear to you, poster?

[Anonymous No.6431122]

>>6431116
>Not sure if you guys have seen it, but there are some who do the usual blender modeling, but then run it through SD to achieve some pretty crazy results.
Are you talking about the webm where the the guy uses AI to make mesh details and textures on a 3d model of a building and all the windows looked like deformed melted trapezoids?

[Anonymous No.6431123]

>>6431112
Me when I lie

[Anonymous No.6431130]

>>6431026
Normies
>Lensa
see >>6431034

[Anonymous No.6431132]

>>6430899
It can't compete on a technical level. AI's "competition" consists of stealing work to the point of muddying online portfolios and flooding platforms with spam. Its like a fat guy trying to compete with an olympic runner by covering the race track with oil. The fat guy still can't match the jogger, he's just making everything harder by being annoying and ruining the playing field by making a mess.

[Anonymous No.6431145]

>>6431115
>Professionals on ArtStation being annoyed at looking through portfolios and then realizing it is AI so they can't actually hire the person behind the portfolio.
Sounds like they need to hire AI artists if they can't tell the difference anymore.
OH WAIT THAT MEANS IT IS COMPETING WITH YOU AND YOU ARE AFRAID!

REKTD, BTFO, Indubitably bamboozled, winded, never will be the same, The cat is out of the bag, unrecoverable, swindled

[Anonymous No.6431146]

>>6431105
you shitters even managed to get banned from*ddit subs for spamming your shitty generated images

you literally spam every fucking place on the internet

/g/ has had days with 5-6 fucking ai generals up at same time for fucks sake
you poojeets are mentally ill

[Anonymous No.6431147]

>>6431132
>AI's "competition" consists of stealing work
Why do artists keep perpetuating this line? I guess if you say something false long enough it becomes truth.

[Anonymous No.6431149]

>>6431145
What happens when one of the clients who hires you, asks for you to make a character with hands that don't look like soggy noodles?

[Anonymous No.6431152]

>>6431147
it literally scrapes other peoples art you autistic fuck

keep trying to gaslight people, not even normies are buying that bs anymore

[Anonymous No.6431154]

>>6431116
Can you provide examples, I think it's a good idea and rendering is already algorithmic so it seems like just a different way to render your model.

[Anonymous No.6431156]

>>6431145
AI shill mindbreak in action here lol. Professionals aren't hiring so called AI 'artists' which means your kin are a waste of time and therefore have negative value in the professional space.

[Anonymous No.6431158]

>>6431145
They can't hire them because an aicel "portfolio" doesn't reflect an actual ability to create based on client input you absolute fucking sped. If you were competitive they'd be hiring you (or just saving money by proompting themselves).

[Anonymous No.6431160]

>>6431145
Maybe they were also annoyed by the fact that they needed something that could actually be copyrighted?

[Anonymous No.6431162]

>>6431147
Because most people don't see algorithms as sentient beings that can be "inspired" by other people's art

[Anonymous No.6431166]

>>6431149
sounds like a personal issue, and one that could easily be solved by slightly more effort than just publishing initial generations.
>>6431152
You find me a single pixel of anyone's art in an AI parameters then you can tell me to stop gaslighting people. Its all in the fucking open anyway, LAION, Stable-D even OpenAI while ironically not opensource has papers written on how it works.

[Anonymous No.6431168]

>>6431147
Me when I gaslight people

[Anonymous No.6431173]

>>6431162
>>6431166
can you imagine what would happen to this time honored trade if AI shills dictated the standard?????? top fucking kek. they love the machine because it produces a distorted human only fit for their distorted perception of the world. truly inhumane.

[Anonymous No.6431177]

>>6431166
You're blind if you managed to jerk off to that thing lmao

[Anonymous No.6431179]

>>6431166
Hmm let's pay attention to what kickstarter had to say on this matter:
>Is a project copying or mimicking an artist’s work? We must consider not only if a work has a straightforward copyright claim, but also evaluate situations where it's not so clear — where images that are owned or created by others might not be on a Kickstarter project page, but are in the training data that makes the AI software used in the project, without the knowledge, attribution, or consent of creators.
https://updates.kickstarter.com/ai-current-thinking/

[Anonymous No.6431183]

>>6431147
So if you don't think AI uses images to make work with, how does it function? If the LAION dataset did not exist, would it be able to pump out the same results?

[Anonymous No.6431191]

>>6430917
Good. I hate the Antichrist, and you should too.

[Anonymous No.6431193]

>>6431158
in effect this basically means the client is just the prompter so the need to hire the craftsman (the artist) is no longer necessary as the tools now exist to allow the every man to create what he wants on his input.
>>6431160
Like that will affect derivative work. Any motherfucker can take an AI generated image and use it just the same way people bitched about photobashing.

[Anonymous No.6431194]

>>6430920
lol no

[Anonymous No.6431198]

>>6431152
>>6431162

The art you make is not an extension of your body. Other people don't need your consent to appropriate it for use in their works.
It's not a great offense that other people copy from you, after all you do the same to others by virtue of being an artist.

[Anonymous No.6431200]

>>6431183
Anon go look up the definition of stealing. Your twitter schizophrenia will probably make you unable to understand it still but the attempt will still be useful.

[Anonymous No.6431202]

>>6431198
replace art with intellectual property and you can immediately see bootlegging fingerprints cheeto dusted all over it.

[Anonymous No.6431203]

>>6431193
>to hire the craftsman (the artist) is no longer necessary
This never made sense to me, it still makes sense to hire artists(or AI wranglers, whatever the case may be) because as a project manager you don't got time to sit around generating your own art. You may hire less however, if one person can now do the work that previously you'd need 5 people to do.

[Anonymous No.6431204]

>>6431200
This is a poor dodge Anon. Again, how would the software create its work without the LAION dataset?

[Anonymous No.6431205]

>>6430917
KEEEEEEK

like a house of cards

[Anonymous No.6431206]

>>6431204
By using a different dataset?

[Anonymous No.6431207]

>>6431198
>It's not a great offense that other people copy from you
>other people
>people

[Anonymous No.6431209]

>>6431203
Automating wranglers is easier than automating artists, they are probably already matching passable AI art with what prompts were used. This will allow them to build features like suggestions which would allow managers to do it themselves quickly.

[Anonymous No.6431211]

>>6431198
>It's not a great offense that other people copy from you, after all you do the same to others by virtue of being an artist.
It's hilarious that AIfags think artists ONLY learn shit from copying other artists.
You can learn art without copying a single artist, and most people that do learn from other artists do not just copy an artstyle.
Regardless, if another person were to get inspired by my art style and draw and try to replicate it, I would be very flattered. On the other hand, if some dopamine-addicted freak runs my art through a model, I'd cave their retarded nigger skull in with a baseball bat in real life and not in minecraft.

[Anonymous No.6431217]

>>6431209
Nah, if you've ever worked in a corporate environment you'd know that's a non-starter. There's already many many people who could be cut but they are kept around because cutting them would be more trouble than it's worth.

[Anonymous No.6431218]

>>6431183
If you lived in a vacuum would you fucking function either?

>>6431203
that's a pretty realistic likely outcome with AIart. Do consider no craft is safe, in the context of art before photography there used to be artists dedicated entirely to portraiture and nothing else. Those people went the way of the dodo bird. I'm not debating if that was good or bad for the art community or improved the lives of artists or harmed them. I don't know those answers but there are many crafts in history that have been made vestigial and that's just life.

[Anonymous No.6431219]

>>6431204
The semantics are the only thing that matters. I can call posts calling people trannies "harmful" but there's no actual harm caused and so there's no problem

You stupid niggers are acting like the 2015 journos crying about "harassment" except now the buzzwords are "art theft" and "consent"

[Anonymous No.6431223]

>>6431206
https://github.com/alfredplpl/clean-diffusion
This could have been done in the first place, making the discourse around AI much healthier and possibly getting more people, even artists, on board.
But AI advocates did not have enough regard for artists to do this, allowing their callousness and malice to guide their behavior. So, here we are now.

[Anonymous No.6431224]

>>6431194
>more and more websites kicking you out
>companies DISAVOWING you
>artists treating you like the literal Hitler youth
>anyone caught associating with you getting shitstormed
>your copyright claims getting denied
>China planning to mark your "creations" with your personal David's star
>b-but it's the future, you just don't understand!!!
Your time is already running out, tick tock aicels

[Anonymous No.6431225]

>>6431217
Sure if they just do wrangling as a side, but Streetshitters will have to find a new grift once prompting is automated.

[Anonymous No.6431227]

>>6431218
> If you lived in a vacuum would you fucking function either?
If there were no images to draw from, an artist would still be able to create the, by using their lived experiences and the world around them. Stable Diffusion and the like cannot function without pictures, which were made by men.

[Anonymous No.6431229]

>>6431211
I am an artist and I copy from other artists because what I like to draw isn't real people or things. I like the fantastic and the absurd, so I learn from how other people do these things. Occasionally I will use real life but in general most of my practice comes from other artists.

Not everyone wants to follow the proko-vilppu-loomis style of "gesture and figure drawing." Most of my advancement started happening when I stopped doing that and just drew what I loved instead. If you like it, great. I don't.

>>6431224
True artists don't care about copyright

[Anonymous No.6431230]

>>6430899
I always wonder, can't AI fags see that by generating images they did nothing? You cannot control the output well enough because that kind of AI is not a tool. That's why not famous characters and very specific ideas/designs are hard to generate.

You paste a lame poem on Midjourney, get an amazing looking image, so what? That's just as random as typing the same thing on Google.

Up until now we built machines to give us finished results that were designed by ourselves or tools that were fully controlled by us, but now we are happy by just being spectators of the AI.

Yes, this is the first time we invent something that we cannot control and call it "progress".

[Anonymous No.6431231]

>>6431219
People don't like their shit getting stolen and used against them, who would have guessed. It's like calling personal property a "buzzword"

[Anonymous No.6431232]

>>6431193
Not it doesn't you retard. AI can't create the exact complex concept and design choices you want it to. It can't even produce the same concept of the same character/environment looking exactly the same but in different angles. Aicels create a bunch of shit, pick the best looking one and pretend it's what they wanted all along. That's why an ai gallery isn't representative of being able to do what the company wants you to do, which is why a recruiter will ignore it even though it may look pretty superficially as a standalone thing. Your galleries tend to have shit tier stylistic cohesion too, so they can tell you cant even proompt in a serial manner. It's the same reason no one hires tracers or the likes of Irakli Nadar. What can he make that isn't a filtered photo, even if a "portfolio" of those filtered photos looks nice?

If AI didn't have those limitations, why hire an aifag when you can just have anyone already employed at the company take 5 seconds to proompt it? Surely you don't believe that some artless pajeet has a unique creative vision that has worth on its own, right? Those companies already have ideas guys, what they need is someone who can visualize them. These are all basic things that are self evident to anyone with a smidge of artistic talent, pretty telling they don't occur to you.

[Anonymous No.6431234]

>>6431229
Define "true artist"

[Anonymous No.6431237]

>>6431234
the one the shill can most easily exploit

[Anonymous No.6431240]

>>6431229
True artists care about copyright because they don't want to get caught up in legal battles and ruin their careers.

[Anonymous No.6431243]

>>6431223
They really shot themselves in the foot right from the start. They just couldn't hide the fact they were grifting retards for one quarter.

[Anonymous No.6431252]

>>6431217
This is absolute bullshit. The corpo environment esp now is cost cutting to the extreme. All this talk of "diversity" hires is a bullshit misdirection and /pol/ rightoids obsessing over troons.
Corps will drop whatever dead weight they can and the only reason they would over higher is to fuck their competition. If competitors use labor saving tools you bet your ass they will downsize art departments or reduce the need for commissions.
If coomers or fans want specfict art of xyz then they may just use a generator over a human artist.

[Anonymous No.6431253]

>>6431234
People who make what they want and aren't affected by other people also making what they want.
If you're so concerned with what other people are doing, you're not a fully developed individual.

>>6431240
Once you get to a certain size parasites will try to ruin you regardless.

[Anonymous No.6431254]

>>6431243
we need to cripple AI permanently for the security of mankind now that retard wranglers have given the opportunity for us to do so.

[Anonymous No.6431255]

>>6431252
And? That doesn't go against anything I said.

[Anonymous No.6431257]

>>6431211
>It's hilarious that AIfags think artists ONLY learn shit from copying other artists.

Literally basic artless NPC logic, they all trace when trey try into art

[Anonymous No.6431263]

I'm kinda curious where AIfags draw the line in terms of ethics, because so far it sounds like they think there's no such thing as an unethical use of the technology.
Taking commissions where you just img2img another artist's work?
A company advertising positions for artists, and they just feed any halfway decent portfolio images into their generator or img2img them but don't hire or compensate the artists?
"Training" a model to rip off the style of a particular artist by directly using the works of said artist, and then even using the artist's name to advertise it, possibly even e-begging for compensation?
Taking commissions to use your model to generate images in the specific style of a living, active artist?

[Anonymous No.6431264]

>>6431223
>>6431243
The problem with creating an "ethical" ai generator is that the main reason why these algorithms seem to perform so "well" is the massive size of the training dataset, with the vast majority of those images having been taken without permission.

[Anonymous No.6431265]

>>6431252
Nah I've tried to generate specifics, and it's really hard. The big secret is that the coomers generating AI stuff a lot don't really care about the specific picture, they just want the right VIBES.

That's all art is to most people- Vibes.

The corpos generating concept art are not using it to replace the people who are dictated a general idea to construct, they're using it to augment IDEA GENERATION.
Meaning, generating shit that gives "the right VIBES." This is not a skill that is easy to develop at all, but you can have a lesser concept artist who knows what looks good do the work assisted by AI. And the reason you would do this is because there are flat out not enough good human CONCEPT GENERATOR ARTISTS out there.

Not "they're too expensive" (though they do get paid a fuckton regardless), it's that they simply don't exist. Good ideas with an actual plan of implementation are scarce, shity pie-in-the-sky ideas are plentiful.

A concept artist sitting there plugging in words can generate far more concepts that can actually be turned into product than "brainstorming sessions" with him sitting there scribbling in autodesk sketchbook on his tablet.

[Anonymous No.6431266]

>>6431230
At least it gave me difinitive proof how generic chainsaw man girls are

[Anonymous No.6431267]

>>6431253
>People who make what they want and aren't affected by other people also making what they want.
So you agree that prompters aren't true artists?

[Anonymous No.6431268]

>>6431267
They generally just sit there having fun so they're closer to being "true artists" than the people who want to blow their brains out when they find out someone else reposted their work on 4chan or gelbooru.

[Anonymous No.6431269]

>>6431268

[Anonymous No.6431270]

>>6431263
>A company advertising positions for artists, and they just feed any halfway decent portfolio images into their generator or img2img them but don't hire or compensate the artists?
I already do this, /i/ provides with some decent starter material, but you can have far better creative control with in painting and even just your own sketches.
Also nothing you mentioned violates any ethics unless you are claiming said work is created by the author and not by an AI.
>>6431264
Training has and never will be unethical. As said millions of times before there isn't a single pixel of any image in an AI weights. If it did it wouldn't really be AI/ML neural nets and would 100% be microphotobashing.

[Anonymous No.6431271]

>>6431253
>not having a competitive spirit
>not speaking up for yourself when somebody tries to fuck you over
>not trying to defend your work from people who try to exploit it for their own gain
Low test.

[Anonymous No.6431272]

>>6431231
>"stealing"
>"used against them"

Are the gamers harassing you in the room right now, anon?

[Anonymous No.6431273]

>>6431268
But "having fun" is not the same as "making what they want"

[Anonymous No.6431275]

>>6431264
Men are more likely to feed a cute puppy than a snarling wolf.
At the very least, the artist backlash against AI would come later than sooner if the companies pushing this stuff didn't come out of the gate waving their middle fingers and spewing bile. In that sense, it's kind of a blessing that these types put their cards on the table so fast. It could have been that they showed their true colors only after artists adopted machine learning in to their workflows en masse.

[Anonymous No.6431276]

>>6431265
Coomers care about rendered skindentations, grotesque physiques, simple taboo narratives (muh pregnant emma watson) and vague resemblance to waifu, they don't even care about VIBES. That is 100% giving them too much credit.

[Anonymous No.6431277]

>>6431268
Watching marvel movies is having fun too.

[Anonymous No.6431279]

>>6431223
They don't have regard for anyone. Any information sent over an internet connection is being harvested. Techfags knew they had to push this stuff out as fast as possible before anyone could form opinions about it or pass legislation. Imagine all the other shit they've been developing that we don't even know about. AI art and AI writing are the grooming phase, let everyone think they can become a famous game dev or novelist by typing some prompts and then while theyre distracted release the stuff that will make half or more of the population unemployable.

[Anonymous No.6431280]

>>6431271
Nobody is trying to fuck me over.
My work will outlast my own life, I share it to contribute happiness to the world. I have learned on the shoulders of others and I hope some learn from my work.

Why would I share my shit if I didn't want others to benefit? It's obviously going to happen if I do that. You just seem very very stupid for thinking they wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.6431281]

>>6430920
>And humans evolve faster than technology

Just wanted to quote this to remind you that this is something you actually posted unironically.

[Anonymous No.6431282]

>>6431102
pyw

[Anonymous No.6431283]

>>6431275
>companies pushing this stuff didn't come out of the gate waving their middle fingers and spewing bile.
That's some serious projection considering the entire project was opensource.

[Anonymous No.6431284]

>>6431273
They want to make something with the correct vibes. They generally don't want to make a specific image.

Hell I can empathize with them because I don't get big images in my head that I try to project onto the canvas, I get a vague sense of what I want to make and then I start drawing, and I just see what the canvas or paper reveals to me.

>>6431276
Most of that is to contribute to vibes. Coomers can like some pretty poor-skill art as long as it gives the right "oomph" - that's vibes.

[Anonymous No.6431286]

>>6431280
Grow a fucking backbone and stick up for yourself.

[Anonymous No.6431288]

>>6431145
How on earth can you hire AI artists?

[Anonymous No.6431289]

>>6431283
They made it open-source to gain public awareness so they could better monetize it. Are you one of those retards who think that open-source means the developers aren't in it for money, or that people who work in the management of not for profits don't earn ridiculous salaries?
Emad himself openly states that he'll make a shitton of money from this.

[Anonymous No.6431292]

>>6431286
Thank you for your concern but as far as I can tell, I'm not being harmed.
Maybe you can show me how you think I'm being harmed though?

Art isn't a zero-sum game. I am friends with a lot of artists. The time I spend helping them get better doesn't damage me. I have a pretty good relationship with another artist that one of my clients pays to color the lines he commissions from me, for example.

[Anonymous No.6431293]

>>6431145
Hire you? I think I'll do it myself. Art is free and accessible to all now remember.

[Anonymous No.6431295]

A new circle of hell has opened for AI and techfags. Deeper, colder, and more eternal than the one Satan is in.

[Anonymous No.6431296]

>>6431288
That's the neat thing you don't have to hire anyone
>>6431289
No, but this guy >>6431275 is clearly projecting and/or believes the is an existential threat to his identity and craft as an artist.

[Anonymous No.6431297]

>>6431283
Sability is still a for profit company, in addition to the other for profit companies that are in to AI imagery. Even if the software itself is open, they likely have another way to make money from the venture. I don't trust these guys to have principals above making money.

[Anonymous No.6431299]

>>6431268
I had fun making this, why not try it for yourself? Could an AI replicate this?

[Anonymous No.6431300]

>>6431299
By it, I mean doodling

[Anonymous No.6431302]

>>6431297
>likely
Do people not even run basic searches? Emad is an investor, and even a quick search will pull up articles where he outlines how he's going to make bank from it.

[Anonymous No.6431303]

>>6431299
Anon I mostly use AI to come up with ideas for my own art and fun.

[Anonymous No.6431304]

>>6431297
>Even if the software itself is open, they likely have another way to make money from the venture. I don't trust these guys to have principals above making money.
They make money by selling and training fine tuned models on their framework. Mostly to business, military and government research institutes.

I know this because I pushed the idea of using AI image and sound recognition for sonar in the navy being one myself.

[Anonymous No.6431305]

>>6431296
You cannot hire AI artist
You cannot copyright AI art

How can you possibly make money out of it?

[Anonymous No.6431306]

>>6431270
>As said millions of times before there isn't a single pixel of any image in an AI weights
That's not really the issue and you know it. The problem is how the training data sets were assembled in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6431307]

>>6431305
Using to generate ideas for products/storylines that you then have actual artists create.
Using it to generate 0-cost stock images for the purpose of photobashing, backgrounds, tracing or reference.
Using it for low-value abstract graphic design such as book covers, powerpoint presentations, meaningless decorations at trade shows and in an office, and pamphlets.

[Anonymous No.6431308]

If it's not GPL v3, it's not really free.

[Anonymous No.6431309]

>>6431307
In short either make ZERO money or you have to hire artists in the end

Epic, bro.
Fucking epic

[Anonymous No.6431310]

>>6431303
AI art can be funny, but I don't feel any connection to what it spits out when I use it to make memes

[Anonymous No.6431312]

>>6431307
this the type of nigga sperging in 19th century France that landscapes are over because we have photography.

[Anonymous No.6431313]

>>6431306
It was assembled by following a perfectly-legal workflow that ensured compliance with fair use laws.
The problem is that some subset of artists think there should be "no" workflow where this is possible. Which would be a horrific situation as it would cause knock-on effects in copyright law throughout the art world.

[Anonymous No.6431315]

There's no need for Photography if there is Photoshop
There is no need for singers if there is Vocaloids
There is no need for musical instruments if we have Electric music

There is no need for artists with AI art

I am laughing
Laughing like a fuck

[Anonymous No.6431323]

>>6431313
>Which would be a horrific situation as it would cause knock-on effects in copyright law throughout the art world.
Are you the same retard who keeps claiming it's "impossible" to regulate ai creations without harming human artists?

[Anonymous No.6431324]

>>6431270
Is it ethical to train and release a model using pornographic images and photos of random people off Facebook?

[Anonymous No.6431325]

>photography just created a new medium!
yeah and it's dogshit. no one gives a fuck about photography. worst art form by far

[Anonymous No.6431327]

>>6430974
>>6430982
>>6430917
KS would get gigafucked via a lawsuit if they kept letting this thing run, at this point its not just some smalltime artists chitchatting about AI being illegal, its actually serious

Cutting it loose is the only sane thing they couldve done before it sinks them as well

[Anonymous No.6431329]

>>6431309
Pure AI-art outputs have almost no value, correct. But in part of a larger workflow the fact they are so plentiful and cheap makes them have value to a studio/company/project. The pure-output ones are used to just reduce the cost of certain low-value products to almost 0.

But in more complex scenarios the entire point is to rapidly generate good, implementable ideas. This is a skill that is in short supply and which most concept artists are not able to do vs their usual grunt work.

>>6431312
No I don't think art is over, AI is just a tool that can be added to pro workflows for varying benefits depending on the specific projects. It's not going to make people lose their jobs or w/e.

The fact is that to use AI effectively, someone has to already be "an artist" and then add skills using to the tool on top of it. Someone whose ONLY skills are AI will likely not find hiring, especially cause they can only do 1 thing.

Companies already want a graphic designer to also do illustration work (that's why the globohomo style took off - it's done using Adobe Illustrator vector lines that GDs are faimilar with!)

[Anonymous No.6431330]

>>6431324
Are you kidding?!
That's literal data breach and harrassment

The ONLY way you can justify that is if, and ONLY IF, you own the site and it is in the ToS that you own the data uploaded there

You cannot just visit one profile after another to seize their pics and sell it off as porn, wtf

[Anonymous No.6431332]

beginning to think ai shitters are to art what incels are to dating

pathetic

[Anonymous No.6431334]

>>6431332
Actually they are to art what trannies are to women

[Anonymous No.6431335]

ai shitters havent really read any copyright or fair use laws havent they

[Anonymous No.6431336]

>>6431330
You actually can do that if the images are public. It's legal, there's an entire subset of fetish porn based on people photoshopping different peoples' heads onto bodies.
Fat bodies, muscular bodies, huge-fake-tit bodies, making the waists narrower, making dudes have gigantic bulges, adding a cock to women, etc.

[Anonymous No.6431337]

>>6431329
And in the end, it is not a replacement, but a tool for artists

Hire AI artists?
Don't have to hire anymore?

FOOOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.6431341]

>>6431334
Trannies are incels

[Anonymous No.6431342]

most non-ai art is low quality dogshit

most ai art is uninspired souless trash

But for the stuff that's actually worth looking at, it looks good regardless of the source.

[Anonymous No.6431344]

>>6431335
Art is art, bigot.

[Anonymous No.6431345]

>>6431306

>The problem is how the training data sets were assembled in the first place.

Even if the USA bans using copyrighted works for training any AI, other countries won't. China, Russia, etc...

You cannot outlaw this methodology worldwide. There will always be at least a few governments who don't care, out of the 200+ total countries in the world. Training AI neural nets with copyrighted images will be perfectly legal in at least a few countries.

And engineers will just setup projects out of those countries to continue pushing the tech further. Big companies will outsource "art/photo creation teams" to those countries and will still save big on costs.

This cannot be stopped. I'm sorry, genuinely, but this tech cannot be permanently banned in any way.

[Anonymous No.6431346]

>>6431330
I don't know, but based on AIshitter logic, anything uploaded and publicly visible is fair game for model training.

[Anonymous No.6431348]

>>6431342
No matter how good it looks, the moment you said it's AI, it becomes worthless

[Anonymous No.6431350]

>>6431335
They probably live in shit holes like India or SEA where such things don't matter desu

[Anonymous No.6431352]

>>6431342
pretty much.

[Anonymous No.6431353]

>>6431332
Post your work, artcel.

[Anonymous No.6431354]

>>6431337
Correct. The artists crying about being replaced are just ensuring they never get hired because in a year after this settles down they're going to just freak about something else. And if they're spending their time bitching on twitter that means they're either not working, or they're working at lowered capacity from their shitty mental fortitude.

Nobody wants to deal with that. They'll just hire the less neurotic artists.

It's really funny how the ones posting the "NO AI" stamp are basically branding themselves as unhireable.

[Anonymous No.6431355]

>>6431270
>companies baiting people into doing free work under false pretenses is ethical
The a solute state.

[Anonymous No.6431357]

I don't care about jobs, I just want AI-detectors on every single website that can tag AI generated images as such.

[Anonymous No.6431360]

>>6431352
The AI artstyle is evolving in using styles that can hide the artifacts. It's pretty hilarious.

[Anonymous No.6431362]

>>6431324
let's take this further shall we. What about HIPAA protected medical records?

[Anonymous No.6431363]

>>6431348

>can literally make money from it

>worthless

[Anonymous No.6431364]

>>6431327
Then bring it to court, they have no case and they know it, you can't copyright styles or ideas and there no copyrighted data being taken to generate any artwork.
KS hasn't exactly said what the issue is with UStabD. My guessing is they are getting pressured by the twitteroids. This also has zero effect on them considerig (if it wasn't scam from the start) they already have their model and the money.

[Anonymous No.6431365]

>>6431360
No, I did that in photoshop

[Anonymous No.6431366]

>>6431334
Trannies are incels who want to be the gf so both analogies work

[Anonymous No.6431367]

>>6431363
How can you make money out of something that cannot be copyrigthed, fuck nut

[Anonymous No.6431368]

>>6431362
There's really no need to go into specifics. The argument is publicly visible = fair use for model training.

[Anonymous No.6431369]

>>6431345
>Big companies will outsource "art/photo creation teams" to those countries and will still save big on costs.
They already do this with pajeets and now even those guys are gonna get replaced too. Cheap labor wasn't good enough, they want everything to be free.

[Anonymous No.6431370]

>>6431357
That's easy
Just make it mandatory to also upload the pdf files

[Anonymous No.6431371]

>>6431299
I can't replicate that exact drawing with AI though you can get close.
I can however fix or finish your drawing buy running it through img2img or change it to my liking.

[Anonymous No.6431373]

>>6431353
The term artcel implies being artless and seething, so it actually fits pajeets better

[Anonymous No.6431374]

>>6431345
>Even if the USA bans using copyrighted works for training any AI, other countries won't. China, Russia, etc...
Actually China has started regulating ai crap before anyone else but sure, keep using them as a boogyman on why profitting off stolen work should be fine. Also, bad things being legal in other countries is not a good excuse for anything.
>This cannot be stopped. I'm sorry, genuinely, but this tech cannot be permanently banned in any way.
Kek. So somehow this is just some magical tech that is immune to legislation and public pressure, even though the more it gets shilled, the more people start hating it and demand that it gets banned.

[Anonymous No.6431375]

>>6431371
>cannot deliver a punchline
lol

[Anonymous No.6431377]

>>6431367
https://www.google.com/search?q=make+money+with+ai+art

[Anonymous No.6431378]

>>6431367
It can be, but even if it couldn't you can still sell it

[Anonymous No.6431380]

>>6431377
Search results: Scam

>>6431378
Sure you can.
Simply pretend that it was not AI made and just scam people

[Anonymous No.6431381]

>>6431371
hahahahhahahaHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.6431382]

>>6431369
If it's free that means you can do it too.

>>6431367
If I sit there generating ideas it doesn't matter if the image that shows the idea i generated is under copyright. If I'm getting paid to DO WORK, not simply SELL IMAGE then you are making money with things that can't be copyrighted.

Art has been moving from a "sit and collect royalties" model to a "be paid to do work" model for decades, in part because the former model is only obtainable by <1% of artists.

[Anonymous No.6431384]

>>6431373
I see Art being churned out by regular folk while you sit here complaining about fictitious brown people saying good morning to each other.

[Anonymous No.6431385]

>>6431371
Wtf you just made it look uncanny

[Anonymous No.6431386]

>>6431380
>Search results: Scam

a.k.a. your information gathering skill is at 0.

your failings are your own.

get good, noob

[Anonymous No.6431387]

>>6431357
Me too, I'm not an artist, but I would feel absolutely cheated to commission generated art.

[Anonymous No.6431389]

>>6431384
I see people spamming this board with AI shitposts.
But I guess we live in different realities.

[Anonymous No.6431391]

>>6431386
>>6431382
No one would hire AI """artists""", bro

The output cannot be copyrighted and as such, if someone decides to copypaste your work and claim it as their own, then you cannot say anything

You can print it and sell it all you wish.
In the end, someone can sell the exact same shit and vola, samefag

[Anonymous No.6431392]

>>6431384
>Soft airbrushed generic animu coomer pinup staring vacantly into the distance

Peak pajeet reply

[Anonymous No.6431393]

Here's a question, how many artists here make their primary income from art or even a significant part? Or is this a threat to the artist identity if say you are just a hobbyist? since lets be honest we now have a machine that can pretty much take 80-99% of the labor and skill of making art.

>>6431371
Putting work from other artists in img2img and reposting it is fucking hilarious but also shows how powerful image input to noise AI is.

[Anonymous No.6431394]

>>6431393
No one's threatened LMAO.
We are just annoyed by how YOU think that you can be one of us

[Anonymous No.6431395]

>>6431384
Why is 95% of ai "art" people shill here just generic coomer garbage?

[Anonymous No.6431396]

>>6431381
It's funny how AIshitters will post absolute crap and talk like it's a masterpiece, and get assblasted and go full "cope and seethe you're getting replaced," like the only reason someone could mock their post is because the person is against image generators. Actual artists have been getting mocked for crappy art, errors, and art theft for ages, but for some reason AIfags act like they should be immune

[Anonymous No.6431397]

>>6431299
soul

>>6431371
lmao.

[Anonymous No.6431399]

>>6431309
>>6431305
Retards will still pay for AI or AI enhanced art through methods like Patreon. Also while AI art in itself cannot be copyrighted, but the sale of it has nothing to do with that. There are people right now selling AI art commissions lol. None of it is copyrighted.
Another big thing is video games. There's no need to hire an artist for textures, backdrops, etc for video games. That means a good chunk of money saved.

[Anonymous No.6431400]

>>6431392
>>6431395
>Nitpicking details that would otherwise be favorable to connoisseurs
Peak Artcel behavior, let's see you do any better crablets.
>>6431389
I see Art being posted while people shitpost with nothing but contempt for others posting art.

[Anonymous No.6431401]

>>6431391
You don't seem to understand.
Someone who is an "AI Artist" purely, has almost no value to a company (unless they have a portfolio that shows they understand their fundies and design despite only using AI, I guess.)
But non-AI artists who understand how to use AI as a tool CAN be useful.

The generated art doesn't need to be copyrighted. The generated art IS NOT THE FINAL END PRODUCT. There places in the process of production where it can have a VERY useful role to the entire staff, despite the image itself never going out to the public.

[Anonymous No.6431402]

>>6431393
I don't like people using my image as a direct input for generating another image, be it tracing, photoshopping, or using it in img2img or creating a model. And no, it isn't the same as referencing.

[Anonymous No.6431403]

>>6431393
The reason why people shit on aicels is because you think "art" is just about generating a pretty end result picture

[Anonymous No.6431404]

>>6431371
>to my liking
>my liking being whatever I can get

The most hilarious thing about pajeets is that they're literally being told what to like by the very "tool" they use. They think they're feeding their unchained creative vision to an automated paintbrush, but in reality it's the AI imposing its style, vision and innate limitations on the pajeet.

[Anonymous No.6431405]

>>6431399
No one's buying AI commissions, lmao

How can you possibly buy AI comissions when you can just search it yourself on the program?

They make their money off scam.

>>6431401
In short: you need artists to make money

Stop running in circles, dumbass

[Anonymous No.6431406]

>>6431400
>coomers
>connoisseurs

Of what? Feces?

[Anonymous No.6431407]

>>6431405
>In short: you need artists to make money
I'm an artist who is pro-"AI as a tool."
The dumbfucks who call it "the end of art" are just trolling you guys because you act like SJW game journalists about it.

[Anonymous No.6431408]

>>6431400
>didn't answer the question
What does art mean to you?

[Anonymous No.6431409]

>>6431407
pyw

[Anonymous No.6431410]

>>6431393
I make a significant amount of income from my art but its not really going to affect my art my since I sell physical merch in person. The AI's current weaknesses (expressions, dynamism, hands, feet) are all things I specialize in, so it'll be a while longer before I'm threatened art wise.

However, I can see its pretty much going to kill the next generation of artists, since kids who used to get into drawing because they wanted to make OCs, fanart, or stories will just use AI instead.

[Anonymous No.6431415]

>>6431396
Not sure about if AI artists believe their work is a masterpiece but one thing is for sure. /ic/ is 100% assblasted that /g/ of all places has made more artwork in the span of (6) SIX MONTHS then /ic/ ever has in nearly its entire existence.

[Anonymous No.6431416]

>>6431364
>there no copyrighted data being taken to generate any artwork
Are u retarded? The entire thing hinges on using mass stolen art to train the algorithm

[Anonymous No.6431417]

>>6431329
>But in part of a larger workflow the fact they are so plentiful and cheap makes them have value to a studio/company/project.
Such as?
>But in more complex scenarios the entire point is to rapidly generate good, implementable ideas.
Such as?
>AI is just a tool that can be added to pro workflows for varying benefits depending on the specific projects.

You ai shills really love talking out of your ass about creative processes while simultaneously refusing to elaborate on specific parts of creative
processes.

[Anonymous No.6431418]

>>6431409
Nah I don't think I will.

[Anonymous No.6431419]

>>6431406
A coomer would appreciate the nuances behind erotic art and would gladly be immersed into the figures of erotica while you, the so called artist will put literal feces inside a can, call it "artist's shit" and call that art and then have the audacity to put it on display behind a glass curtain.

[Anonymous No.6431421]

>>6431399
>AI enhanced art
Depending on how much enhancing, it's ok to pay for that. Selling full AI generated images is like selling a modest indie game for $70. Doesn't matter how fun it is, if the production didn't cost much, I would never pay full price.

[Anonymous No.6431422]

>>6431415
>made more artwork
>made
stop you right there

[Anonymous No.6431423]

>>6431410
Nonsense
If Vocaloids, for all its cultural impact, failed to kill Singers, then AI art is out of the question

Vocaloids back in 2010's dominated the ENTIRE internet and had concerts internationally.
Not it's gone

[Anonymous No.6431424]

>>6431415
>artwork

[Anonymous No.6431425]

>>6431417
See >>6431382
and >>6431307
and >>6431265

[Anonymous No.6431427]

any examples of 1:1 copies of ai generated work to artist works?

[Anonymous No.6431434]

>>6431419
Of course a lowbrow coomer is butthurt about contemporary art worth millions. Cope, seethe, dilate and proompt as whatever you make will never compete with wall banana kek

[Anonymous No.6431435]

>>6431415
> made
AI generated lots of images indeed.

[Anonymous No.6431437]

>>6431405
People are definitely buying AI commissions, stupid, but they are. Mainly because they're being offered for cheap and the average normie just wants their oc dnd character profile pic or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6431438]

>>6431410
>kids who used to get into drawing because they wanted to make OCs, fanart, or stories will just use AI instead
Have you tried creating any of those things with an ai generator?

[Anonymous No.6431440]

>>6431415
>made
the skillset has 100% crossover with me looking for a specific doujin on sadpanda with tags because I forgot the artists name.
oh right that isn't a skillset lmao.

[Anonymous No.6431442]

>>6431437
Why would anyone buy something like that when they can actually just do it themselves for free in 5 mins?

Let me guess:
They didn't say that it was AI

[Anonymous No.6431445]

The /g/fags are still pretending they're in any position to act smug when ChatGPT is going to put them out of business?

[Anonymous No.6431446]

>>6431434
That is precisely why people have zero sympathy for the likes of you, pretentious no skill having hack that sprays paint on canvas from his own asshole.

[Anonymous No.6431447]

>>6431442
Because it's not 1:1, AI training & generation requires high end ML or video cards. It may be more efficient to use a commercial space/computers for various reasons.

[Anonymous No.6431448]

>>6431425
Those aren't specific processes. Those are general uses, which your posts never acknowledge consistency or quality.
Prove your point by showinh an machine learning generator produce a character design turnaround, on-model frames of a walk or run cycle at a side/front angle, or clothing props.

[Anonymous No.6431449]

>>6431410
As someone who has (out of pure experimental fun) tried to generate his already-existing OC with AI, it's really fucking hard and only really useful for getting "close enough to have a reference for drawing off of."

You can literally spend hours not getting close at all. And that's for a coomer design which is relatively "free" with few accessories or props. If you start adding actual symbolism and meaning to the character's design it becomes a gigantic waste of time.

[Anonymous No.6431451]

>>6431445
Most aishitters are probably just neets who dream about everyone else being forced to become a neet as well

[Anonymous No.6431454]

>>6431447
Which anyone can generate for free. So why commission an AI artist?

Right, you didn't say that it was AI and pretended to be your work

[Anonymous No.6431457]

>>6431438
Younger people are getting lazier in an alarming rate, they also get easily enslaved by any new tech.

[Anonymous No.6431458]

>>6431423
Vocaloids sound nothing like real singers. They weren't good enough to actually even sound natural without a heavy amount of tuning. They were also culturally limited to Japan and the anime scene.

Compare it to the vocaloid successor, VSYNTH, that's much better tech wise and much more realistic in mimicking a real human's voice. There's already a few indie games that have used VSynth to sing their songs instead of hiring actual singers.

There are new vocal AI that can actually sound like real singers, including dead ones, that are right around the corner. The music industry is much more heavily copyrighted though. The music version of Stable Diffusion specifically stated they only trained on public domain music and is significantly worse compared to how good the art AI are.

[Anonymous No.6431459]

https://stability.style/

aifags are just grifters

[Anonymous No.6431460]

>>6431447
>still keeps posting coomer shit

[Anonymous No.6431464]

>>6431458
And it FAILED to kill singers and would always fail because it's just a tool that piggybacks off skilled laborers
Not a replacement

[Anonymous No.6431465]

>>6431442
You are severely overestimating how much the average normie or zoomer will put effort into setting up stable diffusion lmao. Not even getting into people having shit PCs or mainly on mobile, but most don't have a single clue of what they're doing.
Put it in perspective, the average person is probably wageslaving 9-5, and uses their free time to do shit they actually want to do. Do you really think they're gonna spend hours setting up AI and getting prompts right or will they pay poojeet $20 to make them a cute portrait?

[Anonymous No.6431469]

>>6431454
Wow you really don't listen, its not free, compute take energy and time, there are people who don't want to be bothered with running AI locally or don't want to use a AI SaaS for whatever reason being privacy or filtering.
>>6431460
I much perfer landscapes, don't blame me that men are slaves to their sex drive.
>>6431458
>The music industry is much more heavily copyrighted though. The music version of Stable Diffusion specifically stated they only trained on public domain music and is significantly worse compared to how good the art AI are.
This actually not true. Also Stablity AI is being way too timid with this. There is however a far more complex issue when it comes to music rights and royalities, for example you have royalties on the actual "sound" music media itself and then you have royalties on the likeness or brand of the music/artist.

[Anonymous No.6431471]

>>6431445
All that will do is allow them to make more advanced programs faster and with smaller teams. It might kill off pajeet code monkey work but nobody likes that anyway, not even the pajeets.

>>6431448
What you described are not what you use AI for. You use AI for generating ideas with potential implementations. Actually DEVELOPING those ideas into concrete ones is different work.

There are two kinds of concept artists, the kind that actually come up with ideas and the kind that are told what ideas they need to draw/paint/sketch. Most concept artists are the latter. But the former are the ones in the most demand.
You don't really see this often in popular understandings of media because the "producer-director" takes a lot of the spotlight, but when you have the kind of boss whose main focus is funding good ideas rather than implementing his own, this kind of work really shines.
Generating a fuckton of concepts, filtering them to the good ones, and then pitching them to the boss is 100% a very valuable skill to have, but one a lot of people cannot do on their own. The AI as a tool for assisting this process allows, as I said, a lesser concept artist - one who isn't used to generating ideas but knows what good ones look like - to do so.

[Anonymous No.6431472]

can't believe loomis mindbroke people so bad they had to create a machine learning algorithm

[Anonymous No.6431475]

>>6431465
>>6431469
>hurr I spend time searching for the right words
>therefore I am skilled

Stop it already
The only way to make significant money off AI is to pretend it's not.

[Anonymous No.6431476]

>>6431438
>>6431449
Try looking at some of the new plugins they've released for Krita/Photoshop, you can basically select areas to sub-generate while keeping everything else. Don't like the the hair color or style? Select the area around the hair and just re-generate using new tags for color/hairstyle/lighting.

Need to add horns? Do a partial selection and add horns tag, etc. The tools will become much more advanced in a few years and will actually be close to getting more exact details how the prompter wants.

For most people, younger kids especially, that's going to be good enough. Drawing is hard work and the payoff might take years, and maybe never. Just look at how most people in /ic barely progress. How many members of /ic would not have started to draw if they had these tools available instead?

[Anonymous No.6431480]

>>6431427
NovelAi once generated one of those, people laughed at NovelAi because their models were shit and they wanted people to pay for them but then their models leaked and people forgot about that because they no longer have to pay, which is ironic because it shows how normies are fine with mediocre and blatant copies as long as they can make them for free.

[Anonymous No.6431482]

>>6431475
What in the fuck are you talking about you schizo? I don't bother with AI nor do I consider typing in prompts a skill. I'm just saying the average normie isn't going to do all that shit. Fuck off with your low iq comprehension.

[Anonymous No.6431483]

>>6431469
>>6431475
I'm sorry you feel this way but that's not how the world works.

[Anonymous No.6431484]

>>6431471
>All that will do is allow them to make more advanced programs faster and with smaller teams. It might kill off pajeet code monkey work but nobody likes that anyway, not even the pajeets.
It will get better. Fast. GPT-4 is around the corner, and god knows what other models are currently in the works.

[Anonymous No.6431487]

>>6431476
Lads just hold on, every future generation is gonna be bricked, even the worst artists on /ic/ are gonna be Gods among men in their 70s. Being able to draw a loomis head will be considered high concept.

We're all gonna make it

[Anonymous No.6431489]

>>6431464
It didn't kill off singers because it wasn't actually good enough to be competitive. Just like nobody cared about AI art until it was good enough to be competitive this year.

Everyone was laughing about the earlier results of Dall-E and other AI generators until Midjourney and NovelAI showed off their new results.

[Anonymous No.6431490]

>>6431484
Yea and so will the products get better. We're entering a golden age of accelerated technology.

That's one thing the retarded anti-AI artists seem to not really get. I'm not even a /g/-tard (I draw! On paper!) but I fully understand that to them, having more tool-assistance just lets them go metaphorically further faster.

And honestly as an artist I can see how these AI tools can assist me, if I ever get a good enough computer to run it myself.

[Anonymous No.6431492]

>>6431469
>I much perfer landscapes, don't blame me that men are slaves to their sex drive
Fucking idiot, people like you make me want to transition and groom your children so they kill themselves and ruin your lineage forever.

[Anonymous No.6431493]

>>6431464
No, but Vocaloid certainly carved a niche as would the Ai.

[Anonymous No.6431496]

>>6431442
>5 mins
maybe if someone came over, set up SD on your pc for you, gave you a list of prompts to use for what you want, told you which model was best for what your trying to achieve, told you how to use negative prompts, showed you the correct settings for the samplers, how to use denoise properly and you got lucky with your gatcha on the first try

[Anonymous No.6431497]

>>6431489
>good enough to be competitive
wouldn't mind ai prompters so much if they were a little less delusional.

[Anonymous No.6431500]

>>6431476
I mean if you've reached a point where you're literally changing every single strand of hair 20 times just to get the one that's "good enough", you might just as well start learning how to draw instead. Also for many people, drawing is simply a fun hobby, even if they stay /beg/ forever. From my own experience, generating a nice prompt image does not even come close to the feeling of having finished a drawing you are proud of, even if the prompt ends up being more "pretty"

[Anonymous No.6431502]

>>6431459
I'm an AIfag but this is just sad.

[Anonymous No.6431505]

>>6431500
The feeling I've had most from AI images is when I generate screenshots from videogames that don't exist and I just make myself feel sad

[Anonymous No.6431513]

While I do look forward to a (admittedly overly-optimistic) future where AIs can get rid of all the most menial jobs in society and we transition to a moneyless economy... the question remains what happens afterwards. Do we just all plug ourselves into the Matrix and live out our lives in AI-generated fantasy worlds, forever?
On one hand, that might be cool. On the other, it's dystopic as fuck.
The future's uncertain and strange.

[Anonymous No.6431514]

>>6431502
I'm sure Emad has enough $100 bills to wipe his tears away

[Anonymous No.6431519]

>>6431296
>invincible meme
kek

[Anonymous No.6431520]

>>6431458
There's been a lot of advancement in voice generation after vocaloid, a lot of stuff sounds completely real. Still no threat to real singers.

[Anonymous No.6431521]

>>6431382
>If it's free that means you can do it too.
RAM sticks and cloud computing services are not free. A nice gpu will be even less obtainable the more the wealth gap increases.

[Anonymous No.6431523]

>>6431305
>How can you possibly make money out of it?
normal people won't, tech corps will

[Anonymous No.6431526]

>>6431513
>might be cool. On the other, it's dystopic as fuck.
>The future's uncertain and strange.
To be honest I can't wait until the elite cull and exterminate the poor population of this planet so we can stop destroying it environmentally. I don't know why we haven't started a mass cull yet anyway.

[Anonymous No.6431531]

>>6431514
no i mean they can't even shoop the images on the shirts right
and it's copyrighted as fun as advertising
legitimately these are pajeets or chinese

[Anonymous No.6431533]

>>6431364
>This also has zero effect on them considerig (if it wasn't scam from the start) they already have their model and the money.
retard, the money is going back to the marks. Not like it matters, it was a scam anyways

[Anonymous No.6431534]

>>6431523
>tech corps will
yeh and its all gonna look like this, just ai generated. Who gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.6431535]

>>6431521
You don't need cloud computing services, you can just run this shit on your own computer.

The GPU requirements aren't even massive aswell. The only reason people buy the top end firehazard GPUs is as a status symbol, you really only need something like a 1060 6GB to run AI shit. At no point do you realistically need to shell out the big bucks for a GPU for any of this if you're flying solo.

And even then, 1 person can host an install for a few others in their friendgroup/family.

[Anonymous No.6431537]

>>6431526
You're probably just shitposting but that's literally the endgoal. Billions will be slaughtered like cows and it will be celebrated as "progress".

[Anonymous No.6431538]

>>6431513
I'll never understand people who want this virtual world shit. I love videogames and film, but I love them as works created by people, and am as interested in their creation as I am in the finished works. Never once have I wanted to live in a videogame or a VR world, and even when I "waifu" a fictional character, it's because I'm drawn to the creative intent of the person/people who created the character, and because I wish to find a real person who embodies what I find appealing in the character.

[Anonymous No.6431540]

AI "as a tool" is fucking useless. it provides nothing

[Anonymous No.6431542]

>>6431526
>He thinks he won't be among the culled
You're not the protagonist.

[Anonymous No.6431543]

>>6431537
You're retarded. All this proof that the elites aren't hoarding advanced tech, and yet you assume that they must just be hiding it very very well and simply preparing for a mass-extinction event.

Here's a book about your kind.

[Anonymous No.6431544]

>>6431540
Accessibility.
You wouldn't dare challenge the ADL, would you?

[Anonymous No.6431547]

>>6431543
Don't you dare respect these wonderful creatures you negative IQ cretin.

[Anonymous No.6431548]

>>6431544
Retards should be gene edited out of humanity rather than catered to.

[Anonymous No.6431549]

>>6431538
It's usually either doomers or redditors who dream about ai turning their shitposts into an anime.

[Anonymous No.6431553]

>>6431548
Ah, no defense?
Why would you steal the ability to create from those less fortunate than you?
There is no ethical reason.

[Anonymous No.6431554]

>>6431537
I don't think its unachievable either, I think we can use either a lottery system or even lol AI to help make these decisions so people don't have to have the guilt of it.

>>6431542
I'm pretty rich I have over a million liquid and significantly more in assets and stocks. I also live on a sailboat so GL. Poor people are literally cancer and its close to being proven that poverty has genetic markers.
>>6431543
I love copepods the make for a great sign that your reef aquarium is doing well and is healthy. You would know this if you could afford a saltwater aquarium.

[Anonymous No.6431559]

>>6431540
Do AI Artists actually call themselves AI Artists, really doubt you could lack that much selfawareness.

[Anonymous No.6431561]

>>6431327
This fat bitch with saggy tits has nothing to do with art. You are so primitive.

[Anonymous No.6431562]

>>6431559
err you're missing vital information, most of them are Indian they don't have self awareness.

[Anonymous No.6431563]

>>6431554
>Has a million liquid
>wastes his time shitposting on /ic/ of all places
If this post is true you're literally the most pathetic millionaire I think I've ever seen, and that's saying a lot.

[Anonymous No.6431564]

>>6431553
You can't take away what a person never had in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6431567]

>>6431446
>coomer """""people"""""
It's not even the fact that you prefer a more accessible/pleb subject matter like pictures of beautiful women. It's a valid and classic form of art humanity created and revered for millenia.

It's the fact that you have absolutely no taste even within this specific subject matter. Everything you enjoy, even REAL coomer art by real coomer artists, is grotesque and viscerally repulsive to anyone whose brains aren't fried. And running your edritch Freudian nightmares through an AI to create something like this >>6431447 is equivalent to fermenting the canned shit and calling it art. It's "art" of beautiful women in the exact same way canned shit is contemporary art - not because it has beauty on its own, but as a thoroughly inbred symbol of what cooming and consooming by aesthetically inept horny plebs does to actual beauty.

[Anonymous No.6431569]

>>6431559
No, they call themselves "Prompt Engineers" or "Prompt Scientists"

[Anonymous No.6431570]

>>6431554
Why don't you like poor people, anon?

[Anonymous No.6431571]

>>6431563
millionaires shitpost all the time look at Elon

[Anonymous No.6431573]

>>6431564
They have it.
Right now.
You cannot deny this.
To take that away would be unethical.

[Anonymous No.6431574]

>>6431569
I prefer Image Machinist, since I also include inpainting and img2img.
Prompter's are just level 1, you have to put in work to get as good as I do.

[Anonymous No.6431576]

>>6431553
>ability to create
lmao

[Anonymous No.6431577]

>>6431554
>I don't think its unachievable either, I think we can use either a lottery system or even lol AI to help make these decisions so people don't have to have the guilt of it.
Yeah, exactly as I predicted. The next Hitler will be a robot.

[Anonymous No.6431578]

>>6431567
yeh it's all kitsch nonsence and I've never seen an example of AI art that isn't kitsch.

[Anonymous No.6431579]

>>6431571
He's a billionaire, big difference.

[Anonymous No.6431580]

>>6431576
Hey, I'm not the one you gotta convince.
It's the 70-year old judge.

[Anonymous No.6431581]

>>6431571
Elon is a billionaire and he's even more pathetic. He bought a social media company just so people would like his godawful posts

[Anonymous No.6431582]

>>6431573
No one cares about ethics. Life is only about technological progress, efficiency, and lowering costs. Retards have no place.

[Anonymous No.6431583]

>>6431399
>thinks patreon is safe
we're already working on that front anon..

[Anonymous No.6431585]

>>6431574
pyw

[Anonymous No.6431588]

>>6431585

[Anonymous No.6431589]

>>6431585
We already know what /ic/ cope looks like. You guys spam this constantly.

[Anonymous No.6431590]

>>6431574
Unironically that makes some level of sense, cause all the dials you can tweak and adjustments you can make remind me of operating a lathe or something like an espresso machine.

As an artist, experimenting with doing artisanwork is really good for opening up your perspective and appreciating all the thought that goes into how the things around you are put together and manufactured. I cannot say that the dudes sitting there in front of their machines aren't artists, which is part of why I can't say AI dudes aren't artists.

[Anonymous No.6431592]

>>6431399
>Another big thing is video games. There's no need to hire an artist for textures, backdrops, etc for video games. That means a good chunk of money saved.
I sure hope these AAA developers will lower their prices in proportion to the money saved. Otherwise there should be a mass pirating movement.

[Anonymous No.6431594]

>>6431364
>Then bring it to court
nigger it already has

[Anonymous No.6431596]

>>6431592
Piracy is not wrong and does not damage the ones pirated from, anon.

[Anonymous No.6431597]

>>6431563
Unfortunately I'm still in the military... But that's the difference between poorfags and richfags. Poorfags have no commitment.
>>6431567
>IT'S NOT ART BECAUSE... IT'S JUST NOT OKAY!
>>6431570
I generally find them to be useless, dirty and pretty much addicted to the consumer grade teat. There's really nothing worth anything with them and are only interested in your money. One thing being in military has taught me is the only bonds that matter are those that are tied to blood. Generational poverty is pretty much a given and most never will breakout of it despite the feel good stories.

>>6431577
I mean AI is already on the step of getting rejected from art school.

[Anonymous No.6431599]

>>6431553
You have literally had the ability to create for your whole life, no one can ever take it away from you. Using this AI shit and calling it creating is the same as if you commissioned an art piece from someone and claimed that it was actually you who made it.

[Anonymous No.6431601]

at first I was happy to have my hate for Aitards validated with the copyright thing and the Kickstarter news. but walking home from the gym, i had another realization...
there's no reason to fight anymore. this is a non-issue. a nothingburger.
>no serious studio will use AI in their production for fear of copyright infringement, so the industry is safe.
for the independent art market, AI users will have their own niche.
>AI users will shit out piles of commissions for peanuts. they won't be able to bargain with their clients since anyone in the world can do what they do
>the AI market and the digital art market will be completely different things. one will be junk fast food, the other will be fine cuisine
>Ai users won't be able to fake being a real artist because people will become way more inquisitive about it, and it would be carreer ending if you were found cheating
>if you buy a commission that samples from other artists people will look down on you and will get no clout from it
>once the AI trick wears out, eventually people will just grow tired of AI art and interest in digital art will come back
breathe in this hopium with me, bros. we gonna be okay

[Anonymous No.6431602]

>>6431599
It's just another form of creating. It's not drawing, it's something else.

[Anonymous No.6431603]

>>6431599
Sorry, I didn't make poor life choices and became an artist. My time is more valuable solving problems.
Artists have never solved a problem and that's why you're going to be very alone on this.

[Anonymous No.6431606]

>>6431592
Always remember that your art galleries are nkw just free work for AAA companies.

[Anonymous No.6431607]

>>6431597
>I generally find them to be useless, dirty and pretty much addicted to the consumer grade teat. There's really nothing worth anything with them and are only interested in your money.
You know people could say the same things about prompters, right? Also, are you a boomer?

[Anonymous No.6431609]

>>6431602
I'm fine with that definition. Ai tards calling themselves painters is dumber than them calling themselves artists.

[Anonymous No.6431611]

>>6431597
>IT'S NOT ART BECAUSE... IT'S JUST NOT OKAY!

[Anonymous No.6431612]

>>6431597
>argues that consooming is for poorfags
>generates endless consoomption with AI
Rules for thee, but not for me!

[Anonymous No.6431614]

>>6431602
It's the video game version of "making art"

[Anonymous No.6431617]

>>6431601
This is what I've been trying to tell people. From the start it was un-copyrightable.
Which would be horrible for corporations because they can't just give their work out for free.
Humans artists that buy from human artists aren't suddenly going to be buying A.I art
All it does is add a new set of people making pictures and a new set of people consuming them.
The people that buy A.I. art (if they even exist) were never going to buy human art in the first place.
It's like video game piracy.
The vast population could not give a single shit about your feelings, your emotion, your anything you want to huff to give meaning to your art.
Cool looking things are cool.

[Anonymous No.6431618]

>>6431606
Implying they want my beg tier scribbles

[Anonymous No.6431620]

>>6431603
Painting is all about problem solving, you have no idea what you're talking about lol

[Anonymous No.6431621]

>>6431603
>solving problems
Like your inability to create?

[Anonymous No.6431622]

>>6431597
>One thing being in military has taught me is the only bonds that matter are those that are tied to blood.
nigger who the fuck did you even fight? the targets at the range?
doing a bunch of pushups and getting yelled at isn't making a 'blood bond'

[Anonymous No.6431624]

>>6431603
>Sorry, I didn't make poor life choices
You shit on the street

[Anonymous No.6431625]

>>6431614
its worst than that tbqh, it's the watching a let's play of "making art"

[Anonymous No.6431626]

>>6431618
anon i want to run your beg tier scribble through img2img but add scribbles of my own

[Anonymous No.6431628]

>>6431569
Mfw people who find stuff on Google are Search Engine Engineers

[Anonymous No.6431629]

>>6431620
enlighten me
no really
I want to hear this

[Anonymous No.6431631]

>>6431609
When you think about it the Sampling steps is the amount of paint the AI uses. So I would call myself an AI painter,

I think the AI field can be separated into various specialties and titles.
Prompt Smith
Prompt engineer
AI artist
AI interpreter
Al Photographer

>>6431612
That's just the way the world is my friend the sooner you accept that instead of being a bitter poorfag the happier you will be. Its not my fault your parents didn't save enough money for a trust for you or you didn't think ahead to invest or take full advantage of opportunities you had.

[Anonymous No.6431633]

>>6431617
you are literally subhuman by definition

[Anonymous No.6431634]

>>6431603
Bet this nigga wears ray-bans and imagines being on the Joe Rogan podcast.

[Anonymous No.6431635]

>>6431602
>It's just another form of creating
It's called gacha. Also, you don't create anything, algorigthm does.

[Anonymous No.6431636]

>>6431633
stop it, I'm blushing

[Anonymous No.6431637]

>>6431601
>>6431617
But the person generating the image owns the copywrite though

[Anonymous No.6431638]

>>6431617
all smiles, only love
we gonna be okay
we gonna be okay
we gonna be okay
sing with me anon
https://youtu.be/o9GXiQBUK4Y

[Anonymous No.6431641]

>>6431637
No they do not in any form or fashion.
There's nothing stopping you from taking this picture and selling it, modifying it, and doing whatever you want with it.
Gosh that'd be so terrible if you did all those things
I'd be really angry

[Anonymous No.6431642]

>>6431631
Anon ... what value are you creating for the world and your fellow humans that a poorfag does not?

[Anonymous No.6431645]

>>6431637
They don't. Haha. Good luck trying to apply your "copyright" in any serious institution.

[Anonymous No.6431647]

>>6431635
>Prompters are the gacha of Art.
damn...

[Anonymous No.6431649]

>>6431631
>Al Photographer
My sides

[Anonymous No.6431650]

>>6431638
My brother in Christ(Almighty)

[Anonymous No.6431651]

>>6431105
LMAO

[Anonymous No.6431654]

>>6431641
AI art will be treated in the same way NFTs are treated. If you're trying to sell it I'll just screenshot it and undercut you in any type of product I can print it on.

[Anonymous No.6431656]

>>6431649
/p/ is more at risk from AI then artists /ic/ is.

[Anonymous No.6431658]

>>6431654
gosh I would be so angry
im going to redbubble right now with this picture
weebs would easily pay $50 for this

[Anonymous No.6431662]

>>6431654
unrelated NFTs might actually be the ironic counter to AI. If you can use NFT as a proof of work token to human art.

Also I know speculating on NFTs was a scam but why did artists not use NFTs to sell their work? I mean what stops you from minting a free NFT

[Anonymous No.6431663]

>>6431641
>>6431645
Well whoever generated it could sue me for breach of copyright. They won't necessarily win but there's a decent chance.

[Anonymous No.6431664]

>>6431631
This is genuinelly incredible satire, extremely entertaining.

[Anonymous No.6431667]

>>6431617
>>6431637
>>6431645
Nobody seriously cares about the copyright of AI images.
AI is a huge push for the "free culture" movement, an attempt to destroy copyright in search of a world where you don't need permission to do what you want with any art you want. This is actually the dominant mode of thinking, but people don't actually engage with the issues. Your average person online is engaging in rampant copyright infringement on the daily, often multiple times.

That's partly why so many people seethe at AI art, they're not part of this free culture movement and they don't want it to win, but since AI has given it a massive leg up they're scared now.

They're scared that all the time they spent cultivating an audience that will never repost their work will be for naught. They're scared that the control they deluded themselves into thinking they had over their own art might not be real. They're scared that they'll lose, and then they'll have to kill themselves or delete all their art to maintain their righteousness.

[Anonymous No.6431669]

>>6431663
There is zero chance of this, anon.

[Anonymous No.6431670]

>>6431667
>AI is a huge push for the "free culture" movement, an attempt to destroy copyright in search of a world where you don't need permission to do what you want with any art you want.
This is a great goal, but we live in a Capitalist society where artists need to eat food.

[Anonymous No.6431672]

>>6431669
>filename

[Anonymous No.6431673]

>>6431662
NFTs were partly a scam on artists because they cost money to mint. The NFTbros were trying to get artists to mint their own work because it meant the artists ate the gas fees and often undervalued their shit, so some NFT idiot could flip the thing while the artist was out a couple hundred bux from the minting.

[Anonymous No.6431674]

>>6431670
That's convenient because there's people willing to pay others money to solve the problems of the world.

[Anonymous No.6431679]

>>6431670
You can still make money as an artist, you just make money doing work. Not selling already-done work (unless you sell tickets to a physically-restricted area where your art exists).

"Art" is a service, not a product.

[Anonymous No.6431680]

>already started seeing takes of people unironically saying that AI-generated CP is a good thing because it doesn't hurt children

[Anonymous No.6431681]

>>6431664
I already use the title of "Professional Prompt Smith" on Art station.

[Anonymous No.6431683]

>>6431680
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.6431684]

>>6431669
Never seen it happen, but I don't see why not. They'd be in their legal right and if they got enough money it should be doable.

[Anonymous No.6431685]

>>6431674
>people are going to pay me money to draw them something for commercial use that they don't own
:v)

[Anonymous No.6431686]

>>6431681
>gigachad avatar
i legitimately think "people" like you should have their skulls caved in

[Anonymous No.6431687]

>>6431681
Promptsmith should be one word, like blacksmith

[Anonymous No.6431689]

>>6431685
why would they do that anon?

[Anonymous No.6431690]

>>6431526
>I can't wait until the elite cull and exterminate the poor population of this planet so we can stop destroying it environmentally
Considering its the elite doing that idk what the fuck you're talking about, what are the elite just gonna stop polluting for fun? Lmao they do it to make money and cut costs retard aifags are just completely disconnected from reality

[Anonymous No.6431692]

>>6431667
well, without copyright you will have a really hard time profiting from the art you generated since it was generated with art you don't own.
the customers who purchase regular digital art won't be interested in buying from you, since anyone can write prompts, and if you manage to sell something it will be for dirt cheap.
of course, you can generate art for yourself stealing from all your favorite artists, but again, anyone can do it, so why would they bother with you?
all smiles brother, only love. come talk to us if you ever want to get serious about art.

[Anonymous No.6431697]

>>6431681
>https://www.artstation.com/vayeate
Is this actually you anon

[Anonymous No.6431698]

>>6431673
wtf how does minting cost money? You can literally do it on a laptop. still a scam no doubt.
>>6431686
Gigachad is more than a person he is a movement, a force that transcends this plane of existince and the drama of petty ambition

[Anonymous No.6431702]

>>6431692
See: >>6431679


And I don't care about people who "purchase digital art". I am an artist, I do work on commission. People pay me to MAKE art, I am not selling them art I already made, that'd be stupid.
I use AI shit to just generate ideas, play around, maybe make some assets for shoving into a background at some point.

[Anonymous No.6431708]

>>6431698
Minting costs money because it has to be put onto a blockchain and doing that requires "gas fees" (as in, step on the gas to make it go, not burning gas.) The fees are a part of rewarding the people who are doing the computing work that serves to secure the network, it's why any crypto still has some small fee for transactions.

[Anonymous No.6431710]

>>6431405
>How can you possibly buy AI comissions when you can just search it yourself on the program?
People pay for convenience. It's a big reason piracy has fallen off in recent years since media has become legally accessible in more convenient ways.

[Anonymous No.6431711]

Imagine liking your own prompt lmao

[Anonymous No.6431714]

>>6431697
Indeed it is.
I'm going to start a new series of AI art maybe even NFT it for shit and giggles. "Cups with cotton or clouds".

[Anonymous No.6431717]

>>6431714
Why did you like your own post

[Anonymous No.6431728]

I wonder how many people here would actually notice AI generated backgrounds.

People would notice an AI generated character for sure, but somehow I don't think they'd notice the cityscape behind a park is AI generated.

[Anonymous No.6431730]

>430 posts
>50 IPs

[Anonymous No.6431742]

>>6431603
stop larping as a developer you pajeet
dont make me put on my c++ thigh highs and peg you till you call me daddy

[Anonymous No.6431749]

>>6431105
That's objectively not true, I have my own fucking eyeballs where the homepage on deviant art is 40% untagged AI art, would probably be more if I didnt blacklist the relevant tags

[Anonymous No.6431756]

>>6430917
Went to check the SD r*ddit and these guys are bawling, its hilarious
>luddites
>a-artists reference things too!!
>fucking human artists!
>boycott kickstarter!
>they don't need permission!!
You dumb fucks are gonna lose every single legal battle coming your way, anyone not living in your retarded headspace can see how much of a bunch of thieving jews you are. Seethe forever, AItrannies. You and your computer generated sewage will never pass.

[Anonymous No.6431758]

>>6431730

[Anonymous No.6431770]

>>6431728
They don't. Daromeon is proof of it.
>>6431749
Your homepage on dA is based on what the algorithm thinks you'll like.
The fact it's got as much AI art as you say means your tastes are bitch tier basic, so if you weren't propagandized into hating AI art you might actually enjoy some of the pieces.

My homepage has only 2 AI art on it and only one of those two are untagged.

[Anonymous No.6431776]

>>6431756
The bad thing is that big corporation might use this to kill the internet. This is a loaded bullet and 4 out of 6 times the AI tards will shoot them self in the leg by pushing an area nobody cared for.

[Anonymous No.6431782]

Every single AI and techfag would be more useful to society if they were thrown directly into a woodchipper, feet first.

[Anonymous No.6431792]

>>6431756
and to think the lawsuit isnt even settled yet. Get cozy anon 2023 gonna be a good year.
>>6431776
>big corporation might use this to kill the internet
Finally..

[Anonymous No.6431798]

>>6431792
Yes, it will be a cold day I hell before the fossils working at copyright offices give this shit a pass. Maybe when zoomers brain damaged by a lifetime of social media exposure take over it has a chance to happen.

[Anonymous No.6431822]

In the late 2021 I made a prediction that current situation of AI (current image generation quality, a bunch of "artists" seething and trying to lobby their precious "industry") would happen only in 2023. But I was wrong and it happened in mid-2022. The sheer speed of improvement is absolutely shocking. In less than a year we've come from a barely recognizable blobs to a nearly-perfect images with only a few imperfections like fingers, faces, text, complicated interactions (basically situations where multiple objects are supposed to relate to each other).
Now, seeing all those improvements, I'd like to make some predictions:
>Early Summer 2023 - text generation perfected
>Late Summer 2023 - image generation perfected
>Fall 2024 - animation generation perfected
>Spring 2025 - AI can generate a perfect animation with fully generated voice/sound
>Spring 2026 - AI can generate a photorealistic movie
>Fall 2026 - VR worlds, generated by AI on the fly
Now screencap this shit and greet the new age - the age of AI.

[Anonymous No.6431839]

>>6431822
>Late Summer 2023 - image generation perfected
You mean only image quality (which is already pretty good) or being controllable enough to follow designs and ideas perfectly? I think this is seriously lacking in comparison to the image quality.

[Anonymous No.6431844]

>>6431839
>>6431714
Man Artstation seems like a pretty kino site, I think im gonna start posting more of my work here.
https://vayeate.artstation.com/projects/JexWnR

[Anonymous No.6431849]

>early 2020 - India becomes a superpower

[Anonymous No.6431894]

>>6431034
Trannies deserve it.

[Anonymous No.6431895]

>>6431844
nice watermark promptlet

[Anonymous No.6431919]

>>6431680
Yeah, it's trained from CP. So then might as well let pedos use already made CP anyway, amirite?

[Anonymous No.6431928]

>>6431822
the recent "improvement" you're seeing was already in place for years, it's the training material that's making it look "better" you pajeet

[Anonymous No.6432015]

So what's going on in the Japanese/Korean art community? It seems like I haven't heard a single notable artist from there say anything about AI aside from that Naoki Saito video.

I get not wanting to look like a cringe virtue signaler, but come on, it's clearly a big deal.

[Anonymous No.6432028]

>>6430944
ITS HAPPENING.

[Anonymous No.6432049]

>>6431686
anon, how can you say something like that? They should be fed to a woodchipper feet first

[Anonymous No.6432060]

>>6432015
because unlike western mogoloids they aren't obsessed with the "SOVL" or how art is made. Two they generally have a tradition of using tools that rejected or undervalued by westerner, (i.e the VCR, CDs ect)
Three most of all the nips see AI as a labor saving tool or a novel instrument to experiment with and aren't in a schzio panic beliving AI is going to suddenly take away their existance.

[Anonymous No.6432089]

>>6431415
The girl (lain) from my punchline got her torso broken from img2img

[Anonymous No.6432090]

>>6431683
you understand how fragile the mind is right? that too many fragile psyches succomb to their lust by grading to higher levels of pornographic degeneracy; which means if that shit is made allowed it would cause ppl to further augment their desire, and desire has no end. take note of this. this is why some pictures is not legal
>>6431680
they are stuck in what i described above. desire is stronger than ethics and moral

[Anonymous No.6432112]

>>6432060
Japan is the place where "soul" is the most important aspect in art, they also value hard work and skills a lot, you can see that everywhere in their culture.

Now why they like AI so much? Because Japan is a country where you need to work a lot, only a few of them can become an artist and I'm sure many of them absolutely hate artists for that (even if they like the artist's works).

AI is their chance to generate art without the need of skills, free time, artistic knwoledge, creativity, nothing, you just type your urges or copy and paste some cool prompt and that's all, infinite art for free whenever you want.

[Anonymous No.6432126]

>>6432060
If this is true why aren't the artists posting praise of AI, why aren't they posting AI Art? Almost no one has said anything at all about the topic

[Anonymous No.6432137]

>>6431419
Coomer here I don't like AI art

[Anonymous No.6432204]

>>6430917
Oh no AIcels sisters we got too cocky!
Worst robary, benchods!!!!!
Mostaq save meeeeeee

[Anonymous No.6432221]

>>6431395
AIcels genuinely lack imagination
Otherwise they'd be artists.
Artists with AI create the craziest shit.
But AIcels all they think about is literally muh dick!!!
Incels=AIcels

[Anonymous No.6432227]

>>6430929
Ai has no rights, ai deserves to be censored

[Anonymous No.6432389]

>>6431602
aishit is a search engine. at most you are doing seo

[Anonymous No.6432576]

>>6432112
>Japan like AI.
They treat it as a meme and trend for ethots, nothing more. People who genuinely love art disgust with AI fags shit out AI pics. Even those who actually spend time edit AI pics call themselves AI breeders, not artist.
The pixiv and CSP backlash is the proof that Japanese who enjoy art don't want AI element in their space. and now Pixiv jannies have to work overtime to hand pick 300 top artworks daily to redeem themselves.

[Anonymous No.6432682]

>>6430984
Based comment

[Anonymous No.6432731]

This whole debacle made me lose more respect for artists than AI. Artists are emotionally bipolar niggers and its going to bite you in the ass.

[Anonymous No.6432735]

>>6432731
>noooo how dare you fight back against the leeches trying to force their thieving asses into your industry
A large portion of the art industry was always made of bpd schizos, they happen to be justified this time.

[Anonymous No.6432745]

>>6432735
This is what I mean. If clearly transformative art is thievery, then that places every artist selling fanart even lower. Furthermore, AI art does not need to borrow any one artist's style to work- it can amalgamate aspects of many to produce a new style. This is obvious to anyone that's used/seen AI, but artists want to be childish, scream and cry into the void, to the point of begging Disney for draconian copyright laws. But the dude in his basement generating anime art for fun is evil, right? I'm just saying, the only person you'll hurt is yourself.

[Anonymous No.6432755]

>>6432745
So you are just another AIjeet parasite. It seems giving any post calling artists names even the benefit of the doubt is too much. Scurry back to /g/, cockroach.

[Anonymous No.6432759]

>>6432745
>its ok to steal if it steals from more than 1 person
tech trannies in any% speedrunning mode to prove to the world they have no ethics or moral compass once again

[Anonymous No.6433233]

>>6432759
techshitters have spent the past 3 decades playing fast and loose with the world's data on inflated monopoly money salaries. they have litterally no conception of how the rest of the world perceives ownership or how the real bread and butter economy functions. this is the first time anyone has ever told them 'no' and they're absolutely seething that artfags wont simply do the needful and roll over to be fucked like cab drivers, hotel owners, print and ever other industry they've (((disrupted))).

[Anonymous No.6434395]

>>6431145
>>Sounds like they need to hire AI artists if they can't tell the difference anymore.
OH WAIT THAT MEANS IT IS COMPETING WITH YOU AND YOU ARE AFRAID!

Imagine being this retarded.

Ai can spit out something that looks cool as lomg as its generic and non specific.

As soon as one of those prompt pumping retards would get hired and be asked by the AD, " hey i like these but can you do a few more versions, id like to see one with a more texhwear style and for this one can you do big rings/ spere shapes with some subtractive design elements to make it more cohesive?" The big dumb glorified typist is gonna go, "guhh deErR wHaT diD meAn thuSe woRDs WHaT yOu jUsT sed??" And since they dont actually know how to draw or paint they will have to ask some other competent human to do it and then fire the AI typist retard

[Anonymous No.6434397]

>>6430917
Good. Great even, LOL.