/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread Anonymous Mon Dec 19 09:43:42 2022 No.6427352 [Reply] [Original]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6422149

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 10:08:53 2022 No.6427363 File: 1.59 MB, 1872x1248, shutterstock_231737383.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This was my reference I promise you anon i will improve

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 10:13:23 2022 No.6427366 >>6427363 >>6427280 Ok it's a promise. You can do it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 10:25:42 2022 No.6427372 File: 65 KB, 1000x1000, thing2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tell me everything that's wrong with this image

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 10:26:41 2022 No.6427373

Maybe I'm wrong or simply seeing what I want to see but something I've seem to have noticed is that a lot of artists that do characters, even arguably good ones, don't draw backgrounds or if they do it's very basic stuff. Do they take more time than characters? Is it a completely different skillset?

Am I fucked because I want to do both?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 10:53:59 2022 No.6427383 >>6427372 Why the long face?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 11:17:50 2022 No.6427393 >>6427373 >Am I fucked because I want to do both? No you are not fucked at all, you can do both. In fact you should be aiming at doing both.The skills for one transfer to the other anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 11:32:12 2022 No.6427401 >>6427393 So why is it skipped over so often? Laziness? Time? Less clicks?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 12:13:34 2022 No.6427429
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Trying to get back into character stuff after doing nothing but background art for the last 3 months. Kind of funny seeing how many issues I have after thinking characters were my comfort zone for the longest time.
>>6427373
Backgrounds are hard to get into but lots of fun once you get past the initial hump

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 12:39:52 2022 No.6427442 Does anyone here draw holding their pen at straight 90 degree angle? Shit feels awful How the hell is this going to teach me line confidence?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 13:07:55 2022 No.6427468 >>6427442 are you drawing with your arm

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 13:10:17 2022 No.6427469 >>6427468 trying my best to But I have shaky hands so all my lines come out fucky I did drawabox until the end of lesson 1 (if that help put things in perspective of what stage I am)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 13:21:10 2022 No.6427475 >>6427442 No, no one does that.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 13:23:53 2022 No.6427477

>>6427469
the 90deg thing is mostly about that particular type of felt-tip pen
but for most of these long/straight line exercises, try to keep your wrist from moving and generate the motion from your arm and shoulder.
it takes time to build the muscle memory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 13:31:13 2022 No.6427483 >>6427477 so it's normal to bad at this for now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 14:17:29 2022 No.6427513 I'm sorry if this is a stupid ass question, but can I copy trying to get good at drawing characters while learning the early fundamentals stuff like construction? I don't want to mess up

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 15:58:32 2022 No.6427623
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About to be hit by a "stop polishing a turd" comment like previous thread but anyway I think I finally figured out how to blend the colors which made me happy now I just gotta figure out the hair :)

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 16:36:26 2022 No.6427695

>>6427372
you'd probably benefit from doing some gesture drawings. Make those lines loosen up, there's so many straight lines that go for too long. Everything is very clean but I wouldn't worry about that for now, try making it interesting first, polish later

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 16:47:43 2022 No.6427714

>>6427513
Anatomy and construction ought to be after you have a firm grasp on form. It doesn't really matter if you start anatomy first, but it shouldn't be your primary focus. Take with a grain of salt but that's my understanding as a fellow beg.
>>6427623
Pencil neck pennywise the clown proportions.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 16:52:00 2022 No.6427728
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>>6427714
It's stylized, so it's not going to be accurate to real life. Besides, it's funny you would say that considering I went ahead and traced a 3D model pixiv artists commonly use. But I guess you know more than they do, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:11:44 2022 No.6427755 >>6427728 I have watched plenty of anime buddy. I understand that it will deviate from anatomical accuracy. But plenty of anime artists manage to make their characters not look like retarded bauble heads. Something you have yet to achieve.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:27:18 2022 No.6427778
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>>6427755
Here's an example: she's one of the quintessential hot anime girls, the artists didn't trace a repugnant balloon headed 3d model, and actually made something stylized and appealing. Instead of copying a model encouraging sameface and stagnation.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:34:33 2022 No.6427792

>>6427755
Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware you're far more experienced than the person who created this default 3D model a ton of full-time artists rely on for reference. I should feel privileged to have this critique, which is why I'll be swapping out the model right away.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:42:18 2022 No.6427804
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>>6427792
I am well aware plenty of professional artists use templates, and aren't any better for it. At least with like an animation studio, I can understand there is a financial incentive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:49:37 2022 No.6427807 File: 28 KB, 348x432, trace-chan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this why they're called lolis?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:51:42 2022 No.6427809
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>>6427714
>>6427804
>as a fellow beg...
Oh never mind? And here I thought I was getting feedback from an industry professional!!!
Jokes aside, I'm starting to feel this general is pretty pointless for advice because you get critiqued on anatomy even when you literally trace your anatomy not to be critiqued on it and to shift the focus on rendering simply because it's stylized.
Still haven't received one comment on the rendering in any thread btw because people are so hook up on the anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 17:54:42 2022 No.6427814 >>6427809 I don't do digital so I can't speak to it, other than to say it is also ugly. Why not trace something that looks good if the goal is just to talk rendering?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:02:29 2022 No.6427823 >>6427814 Because I want to render a stylized work. Why should I have to accommodate for the liking of this thread to receive advice? This board has the most autistic obsession with not deviating from realism and it's pretty infuriating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:19:03 2022 No.6427834 >>6427823 >>6427814 Also, not to mention any tradfag reading this has already deemed my refusal to act docile towards their hostility as unacceptable so any criticism would be of ill-intent unlike anything someone like >>6427372 would receive.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:23:30 2022 No.6427841

>>6427823
Again, stylized work isn't the issue. Plenty of others get critique on their work that's stylized. The issue is you don't understand what you're copying, much less actual anatomy in order to stylize it. Most academic courses start with perspective and form for this reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:26:37 2022 No.6427844 >>6427834 I am not being hostile, if I was I would call you a worthless faggot and move on. I am trying to give you the advice that I think would help you the most.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:33:54 2022 No.6427855

>>6427841
>The issue is you don't understand what you're copying, much less actual anatomy in order to stylize it
Making more assumptions here because I used another stylized reference for the shading and highlights. Of course, feel free to point to specific parts instead of just saying "it's bad, go read". That's what I mean by this board's snobby fucking attitude towards anything that isn't realism. Got anything else?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:44:38 2022 No.6427880

>>6427841
>>6427855
Also, you're running under the assumption that you somehow can't start off with stylized work and you need to begin as "traditional" to learn the fundamentals. You're constantly and unequivocally refusing to give up that idea without realizing it. Stylized works still follow the same shapes like balls and cones and are subject to the same rules.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:46:24 2022 No.6427882

>>6427855
Some of the first comments I made to you were about the occiptal bone and the neck. Of course, then you kept prattling on about the length of the video I reccomended the first few minutes of. It was around that point I figured you were just being disingenuous and stopped giving specific advice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:46:46 2022 No.6427884 >>6427823 >This board has the most autistic obsession with not deviating from realism and it's pretty infuriating. Skimming through the last thread there was decent feedback on stylized pictures, even Marc. So I'd say that's not the problem here.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:48:08 2022 No.6427889
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>>6427352
Hello BEG. This book is one big ass meme. Only few chapters left so i am glad the end is near!

>>6425586
Hello fren anon. After i finish this meme book i will make my own website for convenience: when i am looking for specific piece of mine (both twitter and DA) have big disadvantages for that purpose (slow, behind login screen, lack of good filter search) also twitter seems to going full retard mode regarding posting links. After that i will speedrun the remaining 4 beg books (eta 1 week per book, only focusing on stuff previous beg books didnt cover)
>>6427372
mega stiff, its anime and the hand is really ew
>>6427373
there isnt demand for backgrounds. coomers are fine with coom floating in a vacuum. And drawing background takes precious time. Its like you can have two anime girls in vacuum or 1 anime girl walking in city. Quantity over quality so to speak
>>6427442
lmao what?
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Pencil-grip-descriptors-and-their-categories-as-used-when-taking-notes-of-observed_fig5_36190927
>>6427513
i am not sure what exactly you asked but as BEGs we NEED TO draw from reference in order to dodge cementing bad habits. And copying is the first step of almost all exercises

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:51:11 2022 No.6427896 >>6427880 You're confusing can't and shouldn't.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:53:11 2022 No.6427902

>>6427882
No, at which point I decided to move onto tracing a 3d model because I was getting tired of all the focus shifting towards the anatomy rather than what I wanted to do with is render. Or would you rather me render simple shapes like balls floating in space in the next thread so seeing anime characters doesn't upset you?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 18:56:33 2022 No.6427908

>>6427902
What massive hypocrisy. You instantly switched from your hang up being that people weren't being specific, and when I pointed out when I was specific, immediately you switch stances. At your skill level, rendering and shading simple shapes would probably be more productive for you. It has nothing to do with anime.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 19:16:48 2022 No.6427944
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>>6427908
No, you're fucking retarded. This >>6427623 isn't what I posted in the other thread. It was something entirely else that I didn't trace. I only traced a 3d model AFTER being bombared with comments about the flawed anatomy when all I did was look to render.
I am not, as of now, currently, in this space and time, interested in advice in anatomy. I appreciate wanting to be helpful and pointing to advice, but I am looking for advice on how to blend and render. That is why I threw the other artwork in the bin and decided to make another, with pixel perfect tracing, so your or anyone else's neurons wouldn't fire off at the thought of an ear being in the wrong position.
I've yet to receive a single reply on "maybe use this brush instead" or "if you used this technique it could look a lot nicer". None. That's what I've been asking. That's what I want advice on. Is it so difficult for you to understand? I could make a floating ball in space so you're not offended by the anatomy but I find that's not very helpful nor interesting.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 19:22:38 2022 No.6427952

>>6427944
I am not offering you anatomical advice anon. I am point out reasons why I think you are retarded, because you are more than a little bit insufferable. I wish you would leave this board, especially because you don't seem to be gaining anything from being here.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 19:26:00 2022 No.6427956

>>6427944
>that's not very helpful
Studying simple cases is better for studying something you're new at. Basically all learning is based on starting with the simplest version of the skill or knowledge you want to learn, and progressively adding more challenge to the task as you learn.
As for interest, you ought to seperate study from art for the sake of it, and do both.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 19 19:27:12 2022 No.6427961

>>6427623
>>6427728
I’m not reading all the other shit in this thread, so I’ll simply say this: there is absolutely no reason for you to be practicing rendering. To be able to render accurately you need to understand form, and it’s obvious you don’t from looking at the non-traced portions of this image.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 19 19:53:10 2022 No.6428000

>>6427952
Oh don't worry, I'm not looking to post any further. Not like you or anyone else would care or notice some nobody beg's absence, I'm simply shouting my frustrations into the void. I don't need to master every step along the way before I can move onto the next. I can always take a step back with every iteration. Besides, after months of lurking I've not seen single high profile artist post here. No wonder considering this has to be one of the most toxic and uninspiring art corners of the internet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 20:04:23 2022 No.6428016 >>6428000 Sorry nobody hopped on your dick here, you'll get em next time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 20:06:25 2022 No.6428022 >>6428000 If you're taking this much offense on 4chan of all places you don't belong here anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 20:15:47 2022 No.6428047 >>6428000 >I don't need to master every step along the way before I can move onto the next. Sure, you don’t need to be a master. You do however need basic aptitude with the first steps to make the later steps feasible. You don’t have basic aptitude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 20:43:46 2022 No.6428077 >>6428000 Why would somebody noteworthy be soliciting critique from an internet forum to begin with?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 20:46:53 2022 No.6428082 File: 60 KB, 239x183, 1655782053856.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a mathematical way to make sure a character's eyes are actually looking at the viewer because I think I fuck it up every single time

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 20:49:23 2022 No.6428087 >>6428082 move side to side if it doesn't follow you its not looking at you

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:15:46 2022 No.6428130 >>6428082 Flipping the image horizontally helps

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:28:57 2022 No.6428147 >>6428145 Cool mech design anon, and being loose is generally a good thing, but it's kinda sloppy looking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:28:58 2022 No.6428148 >>6427352 What techniques do you guys use to draw facial features (eyes, nose, mouth) in figure drawing?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:33:21 2022 No.6428155
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Does this seem like a decent attempt at the drawing a skeleton over a picture exercise?
Kinda struggling to put together all these practice exercises with improvement in general but I'm still just taking things slowly

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:41:47 2022 No.6428165
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>>6428155
One thing I find useful for legs from Bridgman is the idea of legs as counter balanced muscles. Helps break out of thinking of the legs as cylinders and shows you where muscles ought to jut out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:42:13 2022 No.6428167 >>6428155 Go on youtube, search for Marshall Vandruff and watch first two episodes of his series on Bridgman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 21:44:04 2022 No.6428173 >>6428165 Here's an example of using the idea to quickly construct some legs. https://youtube.com/shorts/cTa0VEbODyQ?feature=shares

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:03:15 2022 No.6428209
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>>6428155
start with naked people, clothing folds sometimes mask where the joints actually are. Designers abuse it when making blazers for breedable twink types like the fr*nch but there's no reason to deal with this shit for simple practice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:03:45 2022 No.6428211 File: 890 KB, 1985x1404, Will Weston - Figure Drawing - Lesson 2 - Homework 30 5 minute Figure Drawings.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Human anatomy is hard, how are these figures?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:13:09 2022 No.6428227 >>6428211 Good, take it with a grain of salt but I think you might almost be over emphasizing foreshortening a bit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:15:37 2022 No.6428233 File: 998 KB, 1080x1200, FromTheInside.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Backgrounds are hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:18:54 2022 No.6428236 >>6428227 Yeah, honestly number 8 just turned my brain into mush Thanks, Anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:21:26 2022 No.6428241 File: 152 KB, 644x933, ref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428236 this might help

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:38:23 2022 No.6428260
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Sketch ended up getting a bit busy, need to be more selective with what details I'm putting in.

>>6428233
Very cool, figure looks great. Background looks good, but I feel like the perspective on the floorboards and arches is off. They should meet at the same vanishing point but aren't.

>>6428145
Mech looks cool, would like to see it cleaned up! Is its head supposed to be a magazine?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:43:37 2022 No.6428269 >>6428233 Not trying to be mean, curious is there a reason for working with limited contrast? Looks kinda washed out as is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:43:55 2022 No.6428270 >>6428241 :o you know the ref too

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 22:44:05 2022 No.6428271 >>6428260 Looks busy because of the roof tiles imo. If you had only indicated them, like you did with the brick walls, it would have looked cleaner. Nice work though, post full picture if you plan on making it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:05:38 2022 No.6428292 >>6428211 I only started learning anatomy a couple weeks ago but I literally see no anatomical features on the figures

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:05:48 2022 No.6428293 >>6427352 >59/250 i am so tired of boxes bros

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:06:42 2022 No.6428294 >>6428292 What are you talking about? What qualifies as an 'anatomical feature'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:07:43 2022 No.6428298 >>6428293 Haven't got home from work yet but I'm not much further. Think I'm at 80 or 85.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:09:42 2022 No.6428302

>>6428298
i feel like this is the epitome of the father, the son, and the holy cope but at least i can "see" the VP lines and almost "project" imaginary boxes in perspectives onto the page. soon the powers will manifest. honestly the application to plants looks coolest and i want to get there from within the rules of the program. we are gmi bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:12:28 2022 No.6428304 >>6428302 I am just barely starting to see it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:13:41 2022 No.6428306 Can I unironically make a living out of drawing hentai commissions? Or at least earn a decent amount? I'm a beginner artist.

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:14:19 2022 No.6428307

>>6428304
when you can dot the angles "closely" enough it'll make sense. the best thing to keep in mind are the VPs established by your original "Y." every respective line serves their VP but you probably already know that. the hard part is just keeping it in mind though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:15:16 2022 No.6428308 >>6428294 Are you just copying figures or are you trying to learn anatomy?

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:19:05 2022 No.6428311
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>>6428260
Thank you, I got the layers wrong so it would take too long to fix. Nice sketch btw, what marker are you using?
>>6428269
Skill Issue, thanks for pointing it out. I think this is better

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:21:56 2022 No.6428313 >>6428308 I am not that anon

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:23:53 2022 No.6428316
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>>6428292
Maybe I used the wrong word then, the class is on figure drawing, I think actual anatomy (as in muscles) comes later

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:27:31 2022 No.6428322 >>6428311 08 Pigma micron and a faber castell pitt pen "warm grey IV"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:28:37 2022 No.6428325 File: 755 KB, 1920x1080, 1651245993414.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] orchids be some hard shit

Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:49:39 2022 No.6428353
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Any tips on these gestures? It's the Vilppu/Huston/Hampton method where there doesn't seem to be a single unifying line of action.
The proportions are clearly all over the place, which from what I hear gets corrected by paying attention+repetition.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:51:28 2022 No.6428356 >>6427977 >>6427960 oddly high likeness on the 2 jermas. Good shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 19 23:59:17 2022 No.6428363 File: 609 KB, 1920x1200, 2022-12-19_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428145 is this done in ms paint? >>6428260 the shadow shapes came out really good though! practice i did today. also thanks to the anon who shared the eyebrow tips

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:05:22 2022 No.6428372 File: 44 KB, 500x500, 4c35db72d7b28de4874554ac9d72fd41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428353 You aren't feeling the flow

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:13:40 2022 No.6428381 >>6428372 But how can I improve, Glenn??

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:14:26 2022 No.6428382 >>6428381 Keep doing more

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:26:44 2022 No.6428399 File: 890 KB, 1700x1600, Akisketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aight so heres the deal. I fucking ruined the previous Aki painting so I moved on and did this one. I didnt sketch in the hair yet but what would you guys say needs fixing?

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:28:02 2022 No.6428401
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How would you guys go about "cleaning up" your drawings as you progress? I feel like my drawings get worse and worse the more layers I do. It's like instead of getting more refined, I'm just adding on more levels of abstraction. Right now the general process I'm using is as follows:
1. Rough pencil sketch with reference, has guide lines for volume
2. Rough outline of that with thicker line for clarity, might add some facial features
3. Another outline, maybe adding a few more details
4. Rough color with different grays to see shapes better
5. Fix things that look off by selecting parts, moving them around, adjusting size, etc. Going back to 4 as necessary.
6. Another roughish outline
7. Clean line by turning on stabilizer and tracing
8. Color, shade, render, etc.
This is based on advice I saw on YouTube. Pic related is at the first part of step 4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:43:33 2022 No.6428413 bros have you signed up for the $0.99 month of class101 subscription yet??

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:45:29 2022 No.6428417 >>6428413 Whats Class 101?

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:52:41 2022 No.6428424
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>>6428417
it's sort of like a korean version of udemy, so it's not entirely focused on art but there's a bunch of artists on there. also it's korean but there's at least an english version of the site and i think most courses should have subtitles
an artist i like, paroro, has a course on there which is why i went for it

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 00:58:28 2022 No.6428430 >>6428429 stay woke also literally not sure what you expected? i'm posting in the beg thread lmfao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:12:49 2022 No.6428451 File: 234 KB, 735x882, image_2022-12-20_011207291.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some progress

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:18:09 2022 No.6428453 Would Hampton's Design and Invention be a good book for a beg? Also with studying art books, should I just be copying all the drawings in the book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:26:20 2022 No.6428459 >>6428453 I've never read Hampton but you should be copying all drawings from all books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:39:57 2022 No.6428480 >>6427960 I like people that do hatch sketches

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:42:28 2022 No.6428483

Will trying to catch up to artist mutuals who are more skilled and have been drawing for more time than me in a short amount of time pretty much disappoint me since it might take years if they aren't stopping anytime soon? I might be biased because I get jealous easily for how some artist mutuals draws my characters and ideas way better than I currently could do even now, but it's an hard thing to swallow for me. Thoughts on the subject matter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:45:17 2022 No.6428484 >>6428483 I literally have no idea what you just said.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:46:00 2022 No.6428485

>>6428483
Cope and seethe by channeling your emotions into grinding fundies
Life is not a linear thing, some people learn faster and got higher ceilings of potential, there is no guarantee you won't be better than them.
5000 hours of progress looks very different between different people

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:46:54 2022 No.6428486 >>6428484 Will I ever catch up to art friends more skilled than me in terms of skill in just a year or a little more, or I am doomed and it's better I compare myself only to me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:50:17 2022 No.6428488 >>6428486 Comparing only to yourself is a cope moralistic retards love to fill their mouths with, but don't actually follow. Jealousy is normal, use it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:51:19 2022 No.6428490
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Tried putting ink on paper to not have done nothing today but couldn't focus enough to make a worthwhile effort. Very sore after work today, hopefully tomorrow I'll feel more in the groove and can get in some worthwhile practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:51:59 2022 No.6428492 >>6428486 Just focus on yourself, its great that you have friends that are better than you because you can learn from them, and if they're any friend at all they will be help you by giving pointers and such

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 01:55:39 2022 No.6428495

>>6428483
>>6428488
If it is giving you motivation, comparing yourself to others can be useful. If it makes it seem futile, don't.
For example, my little brother became better at art than me by a bit in the last year or so, and it makes me feel competitive, to want to be the better of us. Comparing myself to artists who are astronomically better doesn't help me, so I don't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 02:12:24 2022 No.6428515 >>6427728 >>6427623 this unironically reminds me of the boondocks

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 02:17:05 2022 No.6428526 >>6428459 Is it enough to replicate the drawings while going through books, or should I be doing something more on top of that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 02:19:32 2022 No.6428531 >>6428353 What's the point of having multiple lines

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:18:08 2022 No.6428618 >>6428526 you should always be drawing in general, anon :)

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:35:28 2022 No.6428634
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Left is from life, quick pencil sketch under time pressure to finish before customer finishes.
Right is from photo reference. I fucked up and overworked the strands of hair covering the left eye, but I feel I learned something and have confidence for future photo copying work (even though I hate it.)

In fact, copying a photo feels like cheating. To me it feels little different than if I had simply traced the photo, but most people here (and the few artists I've met IRL) think copying reference good, but tracing bad. Anyway, it's fast better than I could do from construction/imagination, and it really feels like cheating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:39:11 2022 No.6428637 File: 3.09 MB, 498x364, shrek-camera.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428634

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:41:21 2022 No.6428638
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For reference, this is what I can produce from imagination. This was fast harder than above, and it looks much worse.
I guess that's the point, but the marginal improvement over my previous drawing from imagination was more personally rewarding than the far better looking drawing above I basically copied from a photo.
Does this make me crazy? Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:43:41 2022 No.6428641 >>6428634 Please fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:43:53 2022 No.6428642 File: 163 KB, 625x604, 1630329867448.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428637

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:45:13 2022 No.6428645 File: 293 KB, 246x463, 1626825530823.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428641 How bout you lick my cum out of your mom, faggot?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:48:34 2022 No.6428646 >>6428645 Try to find somewhere that people's immediate reaction isn't to tell you to leave. Nobody wants you here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:49:00 2022 No.6428647 File: 2.57 MB, 382x554, 1642112667449.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428637 >>6428641 Are there really two easily triggered losers on here right now, or is it one even more pathetic samefagging loser?

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:51:35 2022 No.6428651

>>6428646
No. I will post here as often as I want, and you will be unhappy and pathetic. There's nothing you can do to stop me. The best you could do is not respond, but you're incapable of that. You need to look at how you're spending your time. I'm seeing quite a lot of projection.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:54:01 2022 No.6428654 >>6428634 So you are saying you believe your skills are equivalent to tracing? What. Are you allowed to use the internet by your caretakers?? I

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:54:23 2022 No.6428656 File: 290 KB, 1200x900, csi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6428401 >stickman for position of limbs and proportion >draw the person >make any adjustments now >new layer >line it >I'm still figuring out the next step

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 03:57:09 2022 No.6428658 >>6428651 I spent most of my day at work, left around 5:30am and got back around 5:30pm, made myself dinner and did some dishes, got about an hour of study done, and have been relaxing for about the past 30 minutes. Pretty satisfied with my time usage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 04:15:01 2022 No.6428674 >>6428637 >>6428641 I'm missing some lore

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 04:20:19 2022 No.6428677 >>6428656 very cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 04:49:55 2022 No.6428699 File: 405 KB, 1264x688, df1_2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does this happen to look like a cave or cavern, I can't seem to figure out this shading/coloring thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:45:41 2022 No.6428792 File: 481 KB, 2858x1160, 20221220_014004_HDR_(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do I do when this happens?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:46:50 2022 No.6428793 >>6428792 have you tried saving it elseqwhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:50:51 2022 No.6428798 >>6428793 Yeah I did but the error keep a popping up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:57:34 2022 No.6428800 >>6428798 Did you pay for csp? I don't think you can save unless you bought it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 06:58:29 2022 No.6428801 >>6428800 Yea I bought it full for 50$

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 08:40:08 2022 No.6428873 >>6428451 This looks cool asf

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 08:42:45 2022 No.6428876

>>6428792
Have you tried saving it to a diffrent location?
Alternatively move the file at the location and try saving again
Another thing to try is copy all the layers into a new file and try and save that.
That's all I can think off, but I've never had this issue before.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 09:33:07 2022 No.6428929 >>6428674 thread schizo who refuses to take advice and becomes aggressive when given any

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 09:51:53 2022 No.6428953 >>6428873 eyyyy thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 09:52:53 2022 No.6428955 >>6428876 I coped all my my layers into a new layer and it works. I just wish my timelapse could save over

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 09:58:17 2022 No.6428961 >>6428424 I've not touched class101, but coloso courses are pretty alright. Koreans know their shit and go straight to the point.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:09:39 2022 No.6428979

>>6428929
>Refuses to take advice
I literally used a reference. Advice can be bad
>Gets aggressive
I didn't respond immediately with a stale Shrek gif. Even vaxx shills aren't that lame.
>>6428658
Then you crabbed hard and accuse everyone of being the same person, it's. I haven't posted here in a couple of days as I'm busy. Not every trad artist is esdeath.
Also I find it ironic you accuse people of being aggressive when they disagree with you. Is your art so bad you argue for (you)s because it's the only way you ever get a response?
You're welcome!

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:15:50 2022 No.6428985

>>6428654
If you are saying that being skilled enough at copying that it's as good as tracing is a bad thing, maybe this isn't the hobby for you.
I'm sorry you're permabeg. Don't worry, I went be here long, but if you get lonely there will be others to pass you by you can embarrassingly attempt to insult.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:21:22 2022 No.6428989 >>6428985 NTA, but can you translate this for me?: If you are saying that being skilled enough at copying that it's as good as tracing is a bad thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:24:38 2022 No.6428991 as an /i/ tourist you guys are pretty good, better than me for sure, cheer up

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:39:39 2022 No.6428998 >>6427889 holy mother of proko I bet you can't draw anything from imagination

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:42:23 2022 No.6429000

>>6428989
Yeah, it's hard to parse out from text.
What I mean is, tracing is easy. Anyone with motor skills can trace an image. Copying an image by sight is harder.
So he's implying that I'm somehow bad if I find copying almost as easy as tracing.
If you hang around here you find people who say you should never draw from imagination, always use a reference. In the same post they say you should never trace.
I point out that tracing (one own work to a different medium) is a normal part of art and a valid way to learn muscle memory. But if tracing is bad and beginners should never do it, than using a reference is bad and beginners should only draw from construction by that same logic.
What I said was grammatically correct, but without inflection it's hard to get, I understand that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:43:41 2022 No.6429002 >>6428998 I also want to long out that this isn't me. I'm not the only person tired of mass reply, bad advice crab.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 10:44:22 2022 No.6429003 >>6428699 >Cave/Cavern My first impression was a tunnel. Needs more details obviously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:04:31 2022 No.6429087 >>6428979 >accuse everyone of being the same person ... being aggressive Can't say I have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:10:55 2022 No.6429097 File: 670 KB, 3024x4032, 20221219_185215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could someone help me out with a red-line?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:12:55 2022 No.6429098 File: 583 KB, 1650x1540, ErenJaeger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Critiques guys?

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:15:10 2022 No.6429099
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>>6429097
Hope this helps!
I can't actually redline because I suck but it feels kinda like your leg orientation is off from the face and torso. Like the face is 3/4 but it seems like the legs are facing more towards the viewer? My eyes might just be bugging out at 5am, but something to consider

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:17:02 2022 No.6429100 File: 25 KB, 390x600, d56cd29bc0d0079fd0c3bcfca32c6ea6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6429099 Here's the reference image by the way

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:24:39 2022 No.6429107 >>6429100 why do you need a redline if you have a reference?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:27:03 2022 No.6429110 >>6426053 Nah, I didn't start with the head I started with the hands/sword. And I used guidelines, I'm not too sure what you are trying to say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:28:55 2022 No.6429112 >>6429098 He kinda looks like the dude from serial experiments lain, but overall this is bretty good keep it up oomf

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:30:07 2022 No.6429113 >>6429107 Nta but lot easier for phone posters. I don't have access to any worthwhile photo editing on my phone.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:35:12 2022 No.6429118

>>6429107
Because... I'm drawing this in pencil? And I don't think I have the right insight to be able to just tell if I screwed up a pose or not. I don't want to polish turds I'd rather have a strong foundation

>>6429113
This, I have no editing apps on my phone and I want to finish this off by adding line art then watercolour paints

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:42:10 2022 No.6429123 File: 610 KB, 1000x698, 4534353425243125312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey~! What did i do wrong with this attempt? Would love to hear some feedback and try to improve upon it.

Magpie Tue Dec 20 12:55:45 2022 No.6429131
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Yo, just getting stuck in with my figure studies. Only really been doing art seriously for the past couple of months, most of which was spent doing basic shapes and fundies.

What should I be working on to improve my figures?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 12:58:39 2022 No.6429135 >>6429131 You're not learning anything from this. Pick a figure drawing course (Hampton, Proko etc.) and stick to it. Also resize your images, like the sticky asks.

Magpie Tue Dec 20 13:01:42 2022 No.6429139

>>6429135
Ah, sorry abt the image size, will do that next time. I do feel like I'm learning, though! My figures have most definitely improved from when I first started. What's so wrong about studying the way I do? Not trying to be pedantic or anything, I just want to know what's wrong is all!

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 13:08:28 2022 No.6429148

>>6429139
You don't know how to turn form, that's why it looks so flat and lifeless, these lines give me no information whatsoever about how the figure is actually positioned, tilt of the ribcage, the pelvis or the head. Try to do this with a more complicated pose and you'll fall apart. Gesture drawing and Proko's bean exercise is an absolute minimum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 13:11:56 2022 No.6429153 >>6429139 >>6429148 I say you don't know how to turn form but this drawing doesn't even have them. Instead of a ribcage I get a random shape that could be anything. Instead of simplified cylinders for legs you give me nondescript rectangles and so on

Magpie Tue Dec 20 13:15:24 2022 No.6429157

>>6429148 >>6429153
Alright, I'll give those a peek! I have done gesture and so on before but I suppose I moved on too quickly before I had a proper understanding of the subject. Thanks for the advice! I think I'll give Proko's course a go as that looks pretty good and not too long or in-depth for a beginner. Will help me get the basics down if nothing else, no?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:07:44 2022 No.6429211 File: 641 KB, 1200x1040, Work 1 bis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have a question related to my art How do I k]ms without traumatizing my family ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 14:18:31 2022 No.6429222 >>6429211 It's good, right booba and shoulders could use work, that's about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 15:48:28 2022 No.6429301 File: 34 KB, 454x706, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6429131 You could try using boxes and cylinders

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 15:54:10 2022 No.6429310 >>6429098 Study line economy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 15:59:13 2022 No.6429317 File: 512 KB, 667x683, 1651072965862.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6429097

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 17:58:12 2022 No.6429404 Anyone have a good site for action poses? I wanna try something else beside pinups

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:09:09 2022 No.6429412 Is it possible for me to create a competitive art portfolio in just 1-2 months, even though I don't consider myself to be very skilled? I am hoping to apply to an art university in Austria for a few semesters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:14:32 2022 No.6429420 >>6429412 what are your favorite subjects

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:14:53 2022 No.6429421 >>6429412 >didn't post work no

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:15:07 2022 No.6429422 >>6429310 what the hell is line economy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:17:19 2022 No.6429426 >>6429422 why use lot line

Magpie Tue Dec 20 18:19:06 2022 No.6429428
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Yo, as advised by an anon here I've began a figure drawing course to properly learn and get to grips with figure and character drawing. Though I've already run into a hurdle!

When it comes to gesture drawing, I really can't make heads or tails of the "flow" or "energy" of the pose I'm supposed to be finding. So, I have to stick to glorified stick figures like this otherwise I end up copying the contour which defeats the purpose of the exercise. Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 18:26:39 2022 No.6429442 File: 1.67 MB, 1800x2705, IMG_20221220_202248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any tips for shading anons? She looks like she sat behind a tractor exhaust.

>>	Magpie Tue Dec 20 18:57:10 2022 No.6429496 >>6429442 smaller tractor exhaust could be an option

>>	Magpie Tue Dec 20 18:59:18 2022 No.6429501 >>6429442 also the way you've shaded her currently makes it look as if the light is coming from behind her. try imagining the light coming from either the left or right side of the paper and draw what would look right for that lighting. yknow what I mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 19:08:10 2022 No.6429510 >>6429428 Yeah, grab Michael Hamptons Design and Invetion book and read the early sections on Rythm and Flow, practice those lines, you'll get a feel for it that way

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 19:09:44 2022 No.6429512 File: 703 KB, 805x992, clairfrancoislinescolor.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6427352 My favorite stuck up ojuu sama got her anime!

>>	Magpie Tue Dec 20 19:10:07 2022 No.6429514 >>6429510 I'll give that a peek, thanks.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 19:10:08 2022 No.6429515

>>6429420
Drawing and sculpture
>>6429422
Since I am not at home and do not have any of my artwork saved on my laptop, I am unable to post examples of my work at this time. I understand that it may be seen as dumb to ask about the difficulty of getting into an art university without providing examples of my art. However, I am simply curious and would appreciate any information you may have on the subject.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 19:18:44 2022 No.6429527

>>6429515
usually the universities have something called "mappenkurse" where they help you with curating your application portfolio. there's also lots of other artists who offer to coach you on this. no one can predict if you can pull this off in such a short amount of time, however it's not impossible since art universities in europe don't look for achieved mastery but use the portfolios to judge potential and talent of their applicants.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 19:58:38 2022 No.6429576 >>6429428 Get out a fat brush and watch some of these https://www.youtube.com/@lovelifedrawing/videos

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:35:52 2022 No.6429602

>>6429422
Literally >>6429426
but to expand on it more, line isn’t the only way to define a form. If you pick the right lines, the negative space between them also defines the form. Good line economy is having a good balance between lines and negative space.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 20:36:17 2022 No.6429604 File: 605 KB, 1239x754, 0cbda350-f006-4e27-b4b8-c8d23fff4bab.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Froggies!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:16:45 2022 No.6429663 >>6429604 based phrogs

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:22:50 2022 No.6429667 File: 639 KB, 2558x2408, 1646349060133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] digital study uwu

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:26:55 2022 No.6429676 I don't really draw anymore, but I occasionally come here to make myself feel bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:27:10 2022 No.6429678 finished mela from pokkemon i tried hard to use some new shading techniques like the shiny latex type stuff and soft skin details. think it turned out pretty well im happy :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:27:48 2022 No.6429679 File: 453 KB, 706x1073, mela1000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6429678 im disabeled

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:43:31 2022 No.6429702 >>6429604 frogchads

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:46:41 2022 No.6429710 >>6429667 based based based based based

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 21:46:56 2022 No.6429711 >>6429679 Both this and last version when I looked at the thumbnail it looked like Astolfo and I got excited but then I open it and get sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:11:14 2022 No.6429745 File: 46 KB, 898x613, 1643584603206.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is it so hard to make hair strands?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:43:22 2022 No.6429779 File: 392 KB, 1489x1053, Will Weston - Figure Drawing - Lesson 2 - Homework 30 5 minute Figure Drawings 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Figure Drawing Homework

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 22:54:14 2022 No.6429786

Nothing in my life has caused me so much frustration or made me feel as retarded as trying to draw

The next faggot tutorial with some smug chink i see telling me about how "anyone can do it" will make me track and hunt them down to anally rape them with a cactus

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:02:11 2022 No.6429793 >>6429786 I don't know what circles you're in but I've never seen a chink do a drawing tutorial

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:07:12 2022 No.6429795 >>6429527 thank you friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:11:02 2022 No.6429798 File: 49 KB, 145x195, 7842255.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6429793 here you go

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:25:10 2022 No.6429811
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>>6428155
I gave go at this another at this exercise changing the legs to the alternating muscles rather than cylinders. The pose here was kind of hard to follow, do you think I got it roughly right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:39:23 2022 No.6429829 >>6429786 in the time you spent finding that cactus you could've drawn something

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:41:16 2022 No.6429833 >>6429811 Think that one looks better yeah

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:46:21 2022 No.6429840 >>6429829 i already have one that's what makes it so easy i will go back to drawing once i calm down

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:48:44 2022 No.6429845 >>6429840 I know 4chan scrapes potential self identifying info off pictures people post, wonder if other websites bother. Otherwise it seems like it'd be hard to track people down.

Anonymous Tue Dec 20 23:54:25 2022 No.6429858

My recent kick with trying to take a structured serious effort on learning to draw has ruined working 4 10 hour days for me. When I get home at the end of each work day I am overwhelming tired and sore in my arms and back. Luckily I ought to be switching jobs to something not physically strenous in 5-6 months.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:01:53 2022 No.6429869 >>6429811 the arms are very wrong, you need to imagine what you'll see if you walk to the side

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:05:59 2022 No.6429875 >>6427823 Your replies make you unlikeable and show your propensity to stroke your dick to bad art under uwu excuses about stylization. I don’t think you’re old enough to be on this board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:11:41 2022 No.6429886 >>6429098 It’s a bit stiff, anon. You should do some loose gesture drawings and study the angles of your references to get the more subtle curves and details.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:13:53 2022 No.6429889

>>6429442
Look into toning and shading techniques for pencil drawing. You need to do some excercises on shading basic balls and defining your value range with a pencil. It’s a good start, but rendering needs a little more tool and mark making knowledge.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:17:39 2022 No.6429895

>>6429604
Cute, sovl
>>6429667
Don’t forget to read and do life studies too, you need to learn to define form in as few strokes as possible, but keep up the good work!
>>6429745
You’re going into the details too quickly, anon. You need to focus on big shapes, then medium shapes, and then the fine details. If you go into the small details right away it’s not gonna look right.
>>6429786
You should spend time meditating and working on your patience. This is a life-long skill to study. Anyone CAN do it, if they have the patience.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:41:14 2022 No.6429915
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Beg. Why are there so many super rude anons? So much unnecessary bullying.

>>6429786
i know that feeling
>>6429679
coomable!
>>6429604
soul
>>6429512
values anon, use them so it doesnt look so uncanny
>>6429442
my tip for you anon is to look at the fucking reference and draw shadows where you see them. I know it sounds stupid but thats all there is to it until you level up into higher BEG levels. Also consider getting stick / crayon of charcoal for speeding up the rendering in trad. Trying to render gradients over big areas with simple pencil is almost torture
>>6429428
figure drawing is for advanced BEGs who mastered observation and everything it comes with it like shadows, textures, perspective, sighting... Gesture is this advanced thing which roughly means capturing movement / essence of the object while disregarding anything else. According to the current book i am reading you can comprehend gesture only through massive grind (take note there isnt clear consensus on what gesture is). Good luck
>>6429412
i dont know what the entry barrier is like for art schools, but you can spy my deviant art account to see what sort of gains i got in first 2 months to get an idea. I will say its incredibly easy to improve from ZERO to ONE but it takes shitton of grind to go from ONE to hundred
>>6429404
adorkastock.com sketchdaily.net line-of-action.com quickposes.com
>>6429211
its a bit bland and lifeless, eyes arent in half of the skull, values arent pushed enough, hair texture is nonexistant (its like her hair are from solid block) and gradients are very jagged. But nothing to suicide over. Keep drawing anon!
>>6429098
you used some transformation tool which destroyed line quality on few places. Either use app which has vector type of layers to prevent this or redraw the lines. Other than that i like it
>>6428363
i like the crocos comic
>>6428998
i can but it looks very lowbeg. But dont worry i will eventually get to INT books

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 00:56:05 2022 No.6429933 >>6429895 >Don’t forget to read and do life studies too off, ofc! thanks for my and others' advice!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:38:20 2022 No.6429975 fuck it i'm going back to trying to draw straight lines

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:50:40 2022 No.6429992 File: 267 KB, 680x880, csi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Somethings wrong but I don't know what

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 01:54:16 2022 No.6429997 >>6429992 I dont think you can turn your upper body sideways that much without your spine snapping

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:00:49 2022 No.6430003 >>6429992 Try drawing through the arm and shoulder before adding the other umbrella. I agree with the other anon, the torso is too far twisted, though the head could be there if both the torso and neck are twisted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:08:26 2022 No.6430012 >>6429997 >>6430003 thanks I think I fixed it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 02:08:57 2022 No.6430013 File: 272 KB, 840x880, csi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430012 idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 03:46:18 2022 No.6430111 File: 1.13 MB, 2272x3694, IMG_20221220_175549178_BURST000_COVER_TOP~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Only time for one drawing today (no reference, obviously.) They say it's going to be a literal blizzard so I've been preparing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:22:29 2022 No.6430142 >>6430013 how are you so good

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:32:18 2022 No.6430149 File: 136 KB, 600x413, ololol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:41:23 2022 No.6430160 File: 2.31 MB, 3272x2250, 38934.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I made this That is my local church

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:42:54 2022 No.6430163 File: 387 KB, 486x648, gg4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :<

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:49:24 2022 No.6430170 >>6428311 the shit of the succubus and demon concept is so oversaturated, it no longer impacts and stinks, with respect to that hand it does not match the dwarf behind the hole in the woman's stomach

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 04:50:50 2022 No.6430172 >>6430160 very nice, the perspective on the left fence looks off though. what country are you in? >>6430163 not sure if intentional or not but the eyes in the darkness are very distracting

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:23:14 2022 No.6430196 >>6430163 lick lick

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:30:32 2022 No.6430208 File: 907 KB, 1000x789, shark1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 05:35:44 2022 No.6430212 >>6430149 Please answer my art, please

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:19:26 2022 No.6430259 File: 300 KB, 860x1462, 226-2265921_prize-clipart-participation-ribbon-participation-award-clipart-hd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430149 >>6430212 uh...u tried...ur best? I guess...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:28:48 2022 No.6430268 File: 38 KB, 550x550, 72a75deb3d4406e2ee1d39f83b921a16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430259 please give me some feedback please why drawing is such a hard task?

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 06:37:37 2022 No.6430280

>>6430212
>>6430268
when I was a child all I did was copy images, I guess it was studies, but it ingrained in me the shapes and planes of anatomy, among other things. I focused entirely on the size, distance, and white space around any given point in the image, to produce as exact of a copy as I could
you're trying, at least, but when doing this you should replicate the shapes rather than draw what you see in the big picture. If it looks out of place, erase it, redraw it, or move it (don't use digital tools as a crutch too much) and eventually you'll have achieved a process and knowledge along the way

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:03:20 2022 No.6430293 File: 90 KB, 494x625, image0-11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hello, I'm looking for some feedback on this hand and how I can improve it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:12:53 2022 No.6430297 >>6430293 it's fine as is, but: index finger is too long for being bent like that ring finger is longer than middle finger pinky is slightly too long, especially when you consider the last point

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:34:29 2022 No.6430305

Basic knowledge for digital begs wondering why their image looks like shit, or why their linework sucks etc.

>Your canvas is too small or your brush is too big. Increase your canvas size is the first issue artists have. You should be working on a 2000+ px canvas.
This is why your linework is dogshit if you’re using a textured brush.

If you got other questions ask.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:35:08 2022 No.6430306 File: 649 KB, 913x957, sk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here are some sketches

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:40:00 2022 No.6430307 >>6430297 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:41:55 2022 No.6430310 >>6430305 I recently switched from 72 dpi to 300 dpi on a 4000x4000 canvas. I feel like all my drawings look better now. Was it placebo or did the dpi make everything look better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:46:53 2022 No.6430314 >>6428399 The folds on the jacket don’t read correctly to me. Right shoulder pokes out a bit too far. He’s very stiff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:54:30 2022 No.6430319 File: 29 KB, 708x439, D0FF275F-6529-4AF3-A4D3-D6E2E23506F7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430310 Yes. Image I’m posting isn’t 300 dpi anymore, but the 72 dpi is even worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 07:56:16 2022 No.6430320 >>6430310 DPI is important because if it’s too low you start to see the dots. 300 DPI makes it so each color pixel is small enough that you can’t discern them from each other. High DPI is another issue new artists don’t understand.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:07:48 2022 No.6430327
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>>6430305
Another thing to mention. 4chan’s images are not the exact colors you used. My colors get muted when posted on here.
More tips.
You should not be saving your images as jpegs. They lower the image quality.
Here is a 72 dpi, 881x 1246 image.
Here is the original 300 dpi, 2480x 3508
https://files.catbox.moe/ysi95n.png

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:14:57 2022 No.6430333 Any tips on memorizing forearm muscles? Shoulders, armpits, biceps+triceps I can visualize in my head but trying to imagine forearms makes my brain tilt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:24:25 2022 No.6430337 >>6430333 they're like a penis frenulum

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:27:57 2022 No.6430341
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>>6430172
I dont know what intention is. I was scrolling with blank mind and some one mentioned a cave so I start making a cave. and I needed to put something in it, so I put snake girl, Do not know what to do with girl part of snake though

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 08:43:29 2022 No.6430346
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Didn't understand quickposes's interface so I accidentally did a 90s each session. This pace is kinda fun but as expected the proportions are wonky as hell. Should I slow down?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:27:26 2022 No.6430365 File: 1.53 MB, 5748x2472, 24BBCD9B-D4C1-40EB-B665-5F2EE16261FE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430305 How to digitally color.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 09:38:42 2022 No.6430371 >>6430346 Do 5mins.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 10:30:46 2022 No.6430422
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>>6430371
Well, I went ahead and did a class session with increasing time spent on each. 30s is too short, but I started getting the flow right with the 1 min long ones, and it really gets to business with the 5 min ones, so guess I'm going with that pace.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:01:52 2022 No.6430437 >>6430365 basic question but when converting sketches to linework is this just going over your lines with the solid ink pen in photoshop, just making sure to keep to single strokes with a continuous line

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:08:02 2022 No.6430441 >>6430306 these look great and i wish i was half as good as you, but the left (bent) arm of the big center girl looks flat it's just the contour of the elbow/forearm area that could be refined a bit great style anon i love it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:09:44 2022 No.6430443 File: 1.96 MB, 1531x1389, jun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any tips on how to paint?

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 11:21:11 2022 No.6430451
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A bit of a long post. I'm not really sure how to approach learning. I started trying to learn properly a few weeks ago, before that at most I did badly drawn anime faces. Lately I've been focusing on gesture/figure/construction drawing with the idea of doing a lot of reps and slowly getting into my head an understanding of form, shapes, figures, etc. and how to manipulate them. But I'm not sure if this is the best approach or if I should be focusing in something else, I did a lot of shapes(boxes, cubes, circles, etc) from different angles and played stacking them up as a starting excercise. But there's too much to learn and too many resources so I feel a bit lost. I'm enjoying learning I feel like I've gotten a little bit better at identifying information at a glance, I'm not struggling as much as before. I want to build my fundamentals, whatever that means.

Most of these drawings were done in around 3-5 minutes, there's a ton more but I'm not sure if I should post more. Right now I'm dividing my drawing time into 50% proper learning(shapes, construction, little bit of anatomy, etc.) and 50% drawing characters that I like(animeshit). I'm having fun.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:15:40 2022 No.6430482
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>>6430437
I don’t use photoshop I use procreate. I draw a rough sketch with a pencil brush then draw over that with another brush that allows me to go over it. Why your linework probably doesn’t look right is also because of a lack of variation in the linework. My basic sketch has thicker lines and that looks bolder. But if I’m painting I need thinner lines so they don’t look cartoonish, unless that’s what you’re aiming for. But even in the linework you’ll see line variations. The thicker areas are at places where a shadow is implied. Lighter areas need thinner lines. Areas that are squishing together like lips get thinner in the middle. Areas closer to the viewer to create a perspective are thicker.
Most issues with lineart are
>my original piece was weak
>my linework is all the same weight.
You need to know where to apply that weight. Throwing it everywhere will not help.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:15:59 2022 No.6430483 File: 512 KB, 835x883, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do I make the shading less bad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:33:59 2022 No.6430507 >>6430443 This perspective is confusing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:35:26 2022 No.6430509 >>6430483 Pick a light source.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:44:58 2022 No.6430512 >>6430451 You're on the right path. Keep going.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:47:31 2022 No.6430514
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>>6430170
She's not meant to be a succubus but thanks for seeing her that way I guess. It was actually inspired by the song From the Inside, I did think it might be a bit edgy but I decided I didn't care because I liked it. Not sure what you're trying to say about the hand, I guess the foreshortening isn't correct?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 12:55:10 2022 No.6430524 >>6430365 How do you combine the shading with the color in that example? Set color layer to multiply?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 13:08:39 2022 No.6430534 >>6430507 do you mean the bottom/legs? i need to pick up perspective made easy after i am done with loomis

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 13:30:53 2022 No.6430551 >>6430534 The head looks as if seen slightly from above, but a lot of the rest is front facing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 13:42:16 2022 No.6430556 >>6430551 thank you, i see it now

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:02:23 2022 No.6430628 File: 2.07 MB, 1531x1389, resized.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At least i finished something this time, next year i want to grind more so i can make my husbando proud.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:05:21 2022 No.6430632 >>6430628 Looks dull.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 15:09:41 2022 No.6430637 >>6430632 yeah, i am extremely bad at colors and rendering ave everything else

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:20:43 2022 No.6430728 File: 2.97 MB, 4032x3024, CEDC2583-47F9-4462-A343-9A6B7F90EFC2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6427352 Please critique this skeleton drawing I did

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:33:11 2022 No.6430748 File: 107 KB, 886x749, stayingbad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have been drawing for too long to be this shit lawl

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:34:14 2022 No.6430750 File: 33 KB, 506x748, alsssopoo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430748 Further evidence. Mind you I am drawing between rounds in games and shit but even still.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 16:55:58 2022 No.6430791 File: 154 KB, 727x1051, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hands, feet, foreshortening how do I salvage this she's supposed to be stuck in a spider web

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:47:30 2022 No.6430870 >>6430791 Probably fine it's a fairy right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:48:01 2022 No.6430871 how do i do sets/scenes look at this shit rough...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:48:54 2022 No.6430873 File: 48 KB, 733x666, 1666784608441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430871 how do i do sets/scenes look at this shit rough...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 17:57:28 2022 No.6430886 >>6430870 yes, she'll be eternity larva from touhou

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:13:30 2022 No.6430916 File: 37 KB, 530x790, poooocontinue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] More Poo

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:39:38 2022 No.6430957 File: 27 KB, 320x240, 1000000264.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6430172 I'm Italian. That is the church

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:55:53 2022 No.6431000

>>6430791
Your head angle is a bit awkward anon. It doesn’t follow the overall gesture of the pose; I’d suggest you tilt her head upwards to follow the perspective you were setting up with her rib cage so the gesture isn’t broken. The main problem is that your proportions aren’t correct. Her limbs are way too long which makes her seem like she has giant bird arms and legs. You can especially tell the back leg is off by its length.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:57:09 2022 No.6431007 >>6430873 someone pls what's a good book or video course or w/e

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 18:57:59 2022 No.6431009 File: 130 KB, 603x857, hello.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm still copying various cats. I thought I can draw from imagination but it was awful. I might try loomis heads even if I dislike drawing humans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:06:29 2022 No.6431030 >>6431007 sticky?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:07:00 2022 No.6431032 >>6431030 no. it was not helpful. let's be real the sticky is a mess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:29:38 2022 No.6431086 >>6431032 ngmi

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:30:04 2022 No.6431087 >>6431086 I KNOW THAT that's why i need help ;___;

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:31:38 2022 No.6431089 >>6430441 Now that you mention it, I see what you mean about the arm. I think I know how to fix it. Thank you very much for the kind words + critique, I appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:33:30 2022 No.6431095 >>6431087 just read the sticky then

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:33:41 2022 No.6431096 >>6431095 DIE

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:35:51 2022 No.6431103

>>6431095
have you TRIED to wade through all the links there? and they're not even specialised. have YOU found good books on backgrounds and scene creation from the sticky? no, because it's just a basic introduction without specialisation and the website isn't even up and hasn't been for forever. the google doc (also useless past a certain point) isn't linked any more, either.

fuck you i hope you and your family meet a violent and gory death you bitch

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:38:03 2022 No.6431106 >>6431095 do NOT act smug around me and post baseless shit like this . thank you. whoever gives me good advice however i will wish everything good in the world for them and suck their penis

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:40:11 2022 No.6431110

>>6431103
>have you TRIED to wade through all the links there?
yeah i am currently doing loomis
also, just check the artbook thread for specialized books about background. We both know that even if i linked you to a book about backgrounds you would give up after the first page for not giving you instant good results. There are millions of videos about backgrounds in youtube too, you are just a lazy ngmi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:41:06 2022 No.6431111 >>6431110 dude i've been doing loomis and vilppu too i know that shit already how is that fucking lazy you're just another /beg/ like me acting like a smug cunt. fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:43:07 2022 No.6431113 >>6431111 ah, i forgot you were the schizo. Its been a while since i last came here, glad to ehar you are still alive and suffering

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:44:12 2022 No.6431114

>>6431113
WHAT SCHIZO

dude i was just asking for good material on backgrounds and scenes and you come out here going "read the sticky bro i'm doing loomis bro" like yeah loomis is literally the first thing people here touch why are you acting like that qualifies you to be a smug cunt? fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:45:22 2022 No.6431117 >>6431114 just draw bro lmao lol

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:45:43 2022 No.6431118
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I'll ask here because I think the watercooler thread got slid off by ai spam: do you think doing a raffle for reaching certain follower counts is cringe, or is it a worthwhile endeavor? is there another way you would say thank you or just not even bother?

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:45:51 2022 No.6431119

>>6431114 (me)
also saying ngmi when you are literally a loomis /beg/ too is just annoying. why are you crabbing so early? just give good advice like the rest of us try to help each other or fuck off
>>6431117
off yoruself bitch you are gay retard bitch baby fuckface

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:49:42 2022 No.6431125

>>6431118
i think its a good idea. I once did one, gained a bunch of followers and enver delivered because i got lazy. You could also try making something useful for your followers if you dont want to draw someones donut steel, like a printable sticker sheet, a picrew, those customizable pixel art cursor sets, etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:52:59 2022 No.6431129 >>6431114 Not the autist you're responding to but I've asked your question here and no one ever answers maybe try another thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:54:56 2022 No.6431131 File: 159 KB, 720x770, 1660091142512.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6431129 thanks for the kind response after my outburst, i wish i had more patience for idiots sometimes but alas. i will do as you suggest!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:56:42 2022 No.6431138 >>6430873 What are you even asking.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 19:58:36 2022 No.6431144

>>6431138
like how do i put sets in perspective around the characters? like obviously all of it is off but especially off is like the angles of everything. so how to do backgrounds populated by things, basically.

perspective books. i've read perspective made easy but i need more still i guess........

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:00:30 2022 No.6431148 >>6431144 perspective made easy, there, now go fucking draw

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:00:53 2022 No.6431150 >>6431148 did you bother to read my post at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:02:41 2022 No.6431155 >>6431144 Show tits

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:03:01 2022 No.6431159 >>6431155 no u r cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:04:45 2022 No.6431164 File: 211 KB, 112x112, 1657998682126.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6431125 I'm mostly just afraid of no one giving a shit and there not being any entries. Even with the goal being 500 that feels relatively likely.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:05:59 2022 No.6431165 >>6431164 giveaways always get shares and likes, grifters are dime a dozen, go for it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:17:08 2022 No.6431190 >>6431159 Girls are not allowed on 4chan

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:23:24 2022 No.6431199

>>6431009
I'll keep trying, I guess.

>>6430160
I really like it. Especially how trees have different strokes.

I wish it wasn't so cold and I could go outside, but it's really ugly in my whole region and no real spots to sit down and draw even the ugliest of ugly "modernist" buildings

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:43:08 2022 No.6431248 >>6431144 Framed perspective vols. 1 & 2 are pretty good. I’d also recommend the marshal vandruff perspective videos.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:49:10 2022 No.6431261
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How do you guys set your "Line weight Scale"?
I always start really thin and once I get my sketch down everything looks so thin and light. Do you guys have certain line sizes you only do for certain things(e.x. Hair, Contour, eyes. etc.) Thanks.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 20:56:52 2022 No.6431274

>>6427809
I'm glad you figured it out so fast. Very rarely do you actually get advice on this board it's mostly "That looks like shit ngmi". The most you'll ever get is "Practice forms more" which is good advice. No one on this board will say anything different cause they have no clue what else to say. They do give good advice but it's so general it's not useful.

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:23:47 2022 No.6431339
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>>6429811
I'm perma-beg so take this with a grain of salt. The red line you have is a good line of action but you need to follow it a bit more closely. Her torso is tilted back while your oval is more straight. Also don't be afraid to put contour lines/ wrapping lines on the legs and arms. It's a good idea to look for ellipses that already exist like the ankle strap on her shoes. You probably already are but looking up some stuff on Hampton is a good place to start. You're doing great so keep it up!

Anonymous Wed Dec 21 21:47:33 2022 No.6431420
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wish me luck, begbrothers, as I will descent unto the hell of hand drawing

thousands of shitty sausage hands will be bestowed upon me, but I shall remain unyielding

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:19:26 2022 No.6431518 File: 391 KB, 619x653, 1671661148973.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6431248 thank you so much, friend!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:45:56 2022 No.6431613 >>6431518 don't post my wife

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 22:46:34 2022 No.6431615 >>6431274 He literally got specific issues with his drawing pointed out and got butthurt anyways.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 21 23:13:52 2022 No.6431713 How do people actually work with Figure Drawing for All It's Worth and similar books? Do you just read the advice and attempt to apply while copying the illustrations? Assuming no access to life drawing classes ofc

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:45:29 2022 No.6431904

>>6428634
>In fact, copying a photo feels like cheating. To me it feels little different than if I had simply traced the photo
don't worry, it is absolutely not cheating. when you draw people (this includes stylized depictions of people, yes) from imagination, you draw from the 'visual library' you have established in your life so far. unfortunately, with beginners, there's basically nothing to draw information from because ususally people who don't draw do not pay much attention to proportions and 3D shapes and planes of eg. a skull, or body proportions. This is where studying from photos comes in. Yes, it's different from creating own work, but that kind of perspective misses the point. Copying from photos (or life drawing!) are just for studying, and yet they are very important for that.
Think of it like this: it's like a text written by a different person you extract vocabulary from, and memorize it - so that later on you can use those words any way you like in your own (original) speech or writing.
don't listen to the trash talk, i've been seeing your stuff for a few months now and you are definitely making progress from the point you started at. good luck.

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:47:45 2022 No.6431912
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Started watching Marshall Vandruffs series on Bridgmans. I had started on constructive anatomy but it was not really clicking so I was hoping this would help but it jumped straight into gesture like stuff which feels over my head. Got interrupted so I'm not sure if I'll get to continue, but not sure if I want to continue going through Bridgman or try something else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 00:50:12 2022 No.6431918 >>6430750 you arent that bad, you are just lazy, go and practice more anatomy instead of half assing everything

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:04:16 2022 No.6431945 File: 447 KB, 1509x3019, 20221221_172719~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6431912 Also tried a few hands

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:14:01 2022 No.6431967
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>>6430149
first of all, i think it looks kinda cool and i like how you stylized it.
my redline isn't perfect but i hope it helps a bit. it feels like you are already checking some angles very nicely, but the dude in your drawing completely lacks a forehead.
the nose feels like it could be moved a bit more to the left, and the neck should not attach to only the jaw but the whole skull. so in this kind of angle, the neck should not line up with where the ear is, but a bit behind it.
the moustache felt a bit random so i roughly blocked out the shape to make it more visually readable in the photo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 01:31:59 2022 No.6431989 File: 39 KB, 556x610, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6431420 Good luck, you got this. You doing Morpho?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 02:58:17 2022 No.6432121 File: 105 KB, 1490x2048, 20221221_205630.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These are my very first 2 attempts at quick figure drawing (2 minutes each) really not feeling them

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:23:14 2022 No.6432166 File: 400 KB, 1650x1540, AkiButHesAnEmofuckboy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last post before this thread dies. How do you guys feel about his hair? Should I change it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:24:36 2022 No.6432170 >>6432166 looks good, no need to change it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 03:44:44 2022 No.6432205 File: 767 KB, 3508x2480, Practice 44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:06:14 2022 No.6432244 File: 2.99 MB, 2590x870, dec212022.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the recent stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:20:10 2022 No.6432264 >>6432244 Pretty good but just stop studying Bridgman please it's going to ruin your art

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:43:15 2022 No.6432299 >>6432264 But david finch told me too i've been doing other stuff inbetween too

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 04:46:16 2022 No.6432307
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>>6432205
Goddamn I like that a lot. Do you have any rendered things?
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I have been trying to learn the face past anime bullshit. First attempt at construction was a little wrong. Overlaid to see what was fucked up, and redrew. Not sure if that's cheating but I am trying to learn where I am fucking up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 05:22:55 2022 No.6432357 File: 1.91 MB, 2250x1500, Illustrationvvchgh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6427352

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 06:39:26 2022 No.6432433 File: 172 KB, 794x752, image_2022-12-22_033737485.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6431989 thanks brother yes just finished the second book I think I will try some clothes or hair practice or maybe go back to photo references now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 08:45:58 2022 No.6432518 >>6432166 Perfectly cromulent in terms of design but I think it might look more dynamic if it was blowing backwards slightly like the blazer

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 10:39:48 2022 No.6432607 NEW THREAD >>6432606 >>6432606 >>6432606

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 11:29:23 2022 No.6432649 >>6429501 >>6429889 >>6429915 Thank you for the tips, anons. Happy holidays

Anonymous Thu Dec 22 22:56:30 2022 No.6433764

>>6431904
Thank you for this. I've worked three 12+ hour days in a row and I have to go out on the media hyped storm tomorrow. You've cheered me up. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I'm so tired, but after a short (I hope) day tomorrow I can spend three days on art, exercise, cooking, and (thank you jeezus) SLEEP!
I'll try to be less pissy with the crabs. Merry Christmas or whatever you do where you are, anon!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 23:01:18 2022 No.6433776 >>6430916 Yeah, it's shit, but only the face, really. I feel you didn't try at that point. The body is mildly okay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 23:02:20 2022 No.6433779 >>6431111 >>6431113 I thought I was the schizo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 23:05:30 2022 No.6433791 >>6432205 I agree with>>6432307. Your mech is compelling. You make it look decent with just lines.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 22 23:20:01 2022 No.6433834 >>6433776 "mildly Ok" is such a mood

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 23 14:10:48 2022 No.6435097 File: 429 KB, 1172x1270, bHp2baZ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Curly hair is hard. How does this look overall?

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