Trad useless for digital?

[Anonymous No.6406972]

[Anonymous No.6406976]

>>6406972
no its the other way around

[Anonymous No.6406983]

Yes, because it’s fun. It’s nice to doodle on a notebook or scrap paper when you feel like it or in situations where you can’t draw digitally at the moment.

[Anonymous No.6406985]

>>6406983
meant this in response to the question in the screenshot btw

[Anonymous No.6406990]

>>6406972
aka they dont know how to draw.

[Anonymous No.6406991]

What's the advantage of digital? I've never really considered it.

[Anonymous No.6406992]

>>6406972
Honestly i want to say yes for 2 reasons one is that it makes it so u cant just magically undo ur fuckups and forget ur mistakes and if u erase to much ur paper is fucked. I think its better for learning.
Also depends on what your doing. Personally id rather have a hand drawn/painted thing to hang up on my wall rather than a digital thing. But if im using wallpaper for my computer then im asking for digital peice

[Anonymous No.6406994]

>>6406972

drawing is drawing
painting is painting

the fundamentals are the same.

digital is more forgiving and have lots of "crutches"

doing trad will teach, no, force you to discipline yourself.

doing both with help you to be a better artist.

[Anonymous No.6406998]

>>6406972
Pros don't care about digi vs trad because they can do both. It's about preference

[Anonymous No.6407001]

>>6406991
less consequences, you can undo your strokes with a button press and you can resize different parts of your sketch. despite all the features some people still find trad easier

[Anonymous No.6407010]

>>6406972
I would say you have the potential for learning faster with digital, because digital is basically there to speed up workflow. You get more quantity. But the pitfall is that you have to make sure you're doing things right or you're just enforcing bad habits.
Trad forces you to slow down. But again, if you're doing it wrong, you're doing it wrong.
If you have the fundamentals down, you can apply your method to digital or trad. It's just a matter of how quickly you'll get your work finished or how polished it will get. I prefer trad mostly. But I can get a lot more mileage with my practice doing digital.

[Anonymous No.6407032]

It’ll teach you quicker because it’s much less forgiving. Also drawing in grayscale will teach you the importance of contrast over color.

[Anonymous No.6407052]

trad is superior for drawing/inking.
digital is for painting.

[Anonymous No.6407067]

>>6406972
For drawing, there are plenty of situations in daily life where it is impractical to practice/sketch/doodle digitally. You will improve if you draw more, and despite all the advantages digital offers in terms of execution it ultimately limits your ability to practice. Think of all the hours you can add over the course of a week or a month or a year if you always have a pad and a pencil/pen handy. After breakfast, on a train or a bus, during your lunch hour, while watching TV, when you're just waiting around, etc.

[Anonymous No.6407073]

>>6406972
Traditional is easier for me because I find a huge disconnect even after all these years. For whatever reason the mildest latency fucks with me as well as stabilizers. I think if your end goal is digital it might be best to stick with digital from the start or else you might have a harder time switching.
Only issue people have with digital only types is that they overuse ctrl+z and shortcuts but you can just spend an hour a day minimum restricting yourself digitally. It's not like you can't "cheat" with traditional media anyway.

[Anonymous No.6407091]

>>6406972
Imagine we no longer have access to electronics, after some bullshit EMP event of worldwide dimensions throws everyone into madmax world. Of course drawing and making art might not be your top priority in a world like that but you can at least create, the physical medium will always be relevant.

[Anonymous No.6407105]

>>6407091
i also thought of this, and it's why I hate being dependent on technology. i will always prioritize the real thing over fakeness

[Anonymous No.6407146]

>>6407091

Everything they've ever made is on a computer too.

[Anonymous No.6407150]

>>6406972
>I pretty much only do digital
It shows.

[Anonymous No.6407192]

>>6406972
Traditional art has 2 functions for a digital artist:
-Improves confidence in your lines (you will ctrl+z a lot less)
-Keeps you stimulated (It's a lot more fun to mess with supplies than it is to click and change a brush texture)
-You can do your warmups in a sketchbook to relax your eyes so you don't stare at a screen through your entire productive hours

Of course the biggest upside of digital is being a lot more forgivable so when I want to do a complex painting I just sketch it in digital, print it, copy it on cotton paper and paint it.

[Anonymous No.6407195]

>>6407192
is CMI a meme now? awesome.

[Anonymous No.6407205]

people say that trad sells for more, yet i see pro trad artists selling original drawings for less than eternal int furry commission

[Anonymous No.6407285]

>>6407091
This. Thanks to living in hurricane alley, there have been long periods I've gone without electricity and/or internet in my home. My sketchbook along with dead wood books were good friends during those times.

[Anonymous No.6407805]

>>6406972
traditional is cheaper till you get to color, so its better to learn traditionally till color as far as I can see.

[Anonymous No.6407938]

IMO Traditional skills transfer very well to digital, but digital skills don't transfer well to traditional. If you work purely in digital then yeah, there's not much of a point to practicing traditional stuff, but it's nice to have the skillset in case someone hands you their sketchbook and asks you to do a doodle for them

[Anonymous No.6408378]

well, you have to know your fundies, and that requires practice, and it's easier to practice with pen and paper in my opinion but you can do both

[Anonymous No.6408389]

>>6406972
Trad is a better teacher than digital for fundamental skills. For one, there are no crutches like in the digital world (Ctrl+Z primarily). There's also a world of difference in how much more natural and intuitive that trad media feels compared to digital. It gives you tactile sensation and feedback that you can't feel with digital. There's a barrier between you and your work in the digital world, that you don't have to deal with working in trad.

It's also good for purely pragmatic everyday reasons. There's lots of places where it might not be feasible to take a digital device, or maybe you simply can't afford a portable one. Paper, notebooks, and sketchbooks are cheap and can function as a constant companion that you can use at any time.

[Anonymous No.6408398]

Just draw, retards

[Anonymous No.6408404]

>>6406972
if you tend to chicken scratch or use 500 layers and do 2-3 undos for every mark you actually make, working in ink will force you to correct a lot of those habits pretty quickly.
you can get a lot of the same benefits with digital simply by giving yourself restrictions e.g; no undos only x number of layers etc.
heavypaint has hardcore mode which is pretty good for this.

[Anonymous No.6408645]

Ironically, the flaws of the traditional mediums are what make it superior to digital. The artist should see his mistakes instead of using ctrl+Z and erasing your inequities from your memory. How do you think the Mona Lisa got her strange expression?

[Anonymous No.6408646]

>>6406972
Trad builds better habits. John Gadsby Chapman (19th century artist) actually recommends students begin with a dip pen, both because it is such a versatile instrument and because it discourages reliance on the eraser. I've often seen digital artists lassoing the head and resizing or moving it when the painting is almost finished. Trad artists have to learn to fix basic errors before polishing. Also, trad is more fun. Who needs to spend MORE time in front of a glowing screen?

[Anonymous No.6408673]

>>6406972
Why not both?

>>6406991
>>6407001
That's one advantage but can also be a disadvantage. With trad, you learn to work around mistakes, which gives your work more true grit. It's why you can tell when a manga is trad or digital.

[Anonymous No.6408779]

>>6406972
Digital because your posture is better and your back will thank you. Trad is fun but hunching over gives me pain.

[Anonymous No.6408784]

>>6408646
I draw really faint lines at first so I can erase them. It's not really that different from using a tablet. I'm too scared to use pen.

[Anonymous No.6408787]

>>6406972
For drawing, absolutely nothing changes other than the surface feel.

For paintings, principles are the same, you just need to apply them to tools that behave differently. (some traditional artists get a hard time understanding this, though)

[Anonymous No.6408816]

>>6406972
yes there is value in learning pencil and paper and it is the only thing that has value in art. digitards tongue my asshole fuck all of you "fixing mistakes" i'll suck my mistakes off perfection is the enemy of the perfect you'll be ctrl+z'ing and layering your shitty little effects for the rest of your "career" and nobody will ever remember you or whatever generic scum you generate nothing you do will ever have any real value to anyone who isn't A. a porn addict degenerate coomer retard B. someone who wants commissions of their shit OC that they'll just get some AI to do instead and it'll be just as SOVLless as whatever garbage you could've pumped out for what, 5$? you will never be a real artist

[Anonymous No.6408834]

>>6408646
I totally agree with this. Learning traditional has given me much better habits when I draw. Thumbnails and confident lines being two ones that I use all the time digitally.

On a more personal note I really do feel that if I can't draw with a pencil/pen and paper I just can't actually draw myself so it's important to me to be able to draw traditionally even though I prefer digital. I don't want to be reliant on a machine or program or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6408953]

anyone who just outright claims never to draw traditionally has to be lying. what kind of artist doesnt absent mindedly doodle on scrap sheets or margins or sticky notes or napkins? fucks sake, what are you supposed to do if you ever go to a con and someone asks for a sketch? shrug?

[Anonymous No.6408967]

>>6408953
Some people genuinely can’t actually draw without things like undo and the lasso tool to move and resize everything they fucked up on the initial sketch. On top of that a lot of them trace 3D models and photobash on top of that so when they draw on paper it reflects their actual skills and that makes them upset. So no they will not sketch at the con.

[Anonymous No.6409013]

>>6406991
You can undo your entire work all the way down to the original blank canvas. You can also change the canvas size whenever you want
>not my fault your PC sucks

t. actual trad artist

[Anonymous No.6409029]

>>6406991
>cost/work is basically free, no need to buy supplies (a cheap tablet works or if you already have an ipad)
>wide color range and easier to get the colors you want
>able to undo/redo/scrap things very easily
>easy to share art online in great resolution and clarity