/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6399761]

Hey /ic/, I've noticed that many artists here are very lost when it comes to learning art on their own, and the books on the sticky are not very useful, I've seen users from here practicing with those books and never getting any good result. That's why I decided to make this guide after asking a lot of artists friends and by my own experience too. You don't have to strictly read the books in the picture, but i think these resources are the most helpful and complete out of them all. If you're a newbie artist don't hesitate to follow this guide so you don't end up going back and forth like me when learning art. Hope you like it.

[Anonymous No.6399774]

you don't need to look up instructional stuff until you feel stuck with your drawings. just keep making paintings with the idea that your next one should be better and when you hit a skill wall refer to the texts. you only need the tools to convey your ideas effectively.

[Anonymous No.6399775]

How to pirate books on the first step

[Anonymous No.6399795]

>>6399775
use pdfdrive or go to zlibrary.onion

[Anonymous No.6399799]

>>6399795
zlibrary got shut down by the feds the other day

[Anonymous No.6399801]

>>6399761
>vilppu after anatomy
its garbage

[Anonymous No.6399809]

>>6399799
weird, I can see it just fine
>>6399801
gesture drawing is way more rewarding and makes more sense once you know anatomy well enough and doesn't make you feel like you're just drawing random strokes

[Anonymous No.6399810]

>>6399761
You don't need pirated books to learn to draw. Too many will make you confuse. Youtube is enough. Medical channel share anatomy lesson for free, which old master couldn't even dream of and havd to learn through illegal means.

[Anonymous No.6399813]

I'd substitute Anatomy for Sculptors / Stone house with Bridgman and Morpho. I'd also substitute "Ctrl Paint" with the Vilppu Drawing Manual, as that book is about simple shapes and form. Step 3 probably be Alla Prima 2, by Richard Schmidt

[Anonymous No.6399816]

>>6399761
is there any book that lets improve lines and brush work?

[Anonymous No.6399829]

>>6399813
Bridgman might be a good idea but Morpho is too simplified and skips lots of info. The Ctrl paint course explains all of what is in pic related, while Vilppu's drawing manual isn't really showing how to practice the basics forms but rather how to apply them in the figure

[Anonymous No.6399831]

>>6399761
What level am I at?

[Anonymous No.6399836]

>>6399831
you're good enough to draw simplified animu

[Anonymous No.6399848]

>>6399836
Ok, thanks for the sources. I knew about the other books but not the actual manga technique ones, that seems really useful to learn a process

[Anonymous No.6400086]

>>6399761
I learned figure drawing before I learned anatomy. I woulf switch those two around.

[Anonymous No.6400100]

>>6399831
you're that ponyfag who did erik olson, i recognize you

[Anonymous No.6400176]

>>6400100
Ah damn, you got me :o

[Anonymous No.6400179]

how about color, op? thanks.

[Anonymous No.6400180]

The sticky should unironically be taken down. It's an actual beg trap and the person who made it isn't even that good, they're like low /int/ at best

[Anonymous No.6400185]

I kinda like this guide. Gone through a few books on here.

[Anonymous No.6400846]

>>6400185
scott robertson is amazing and steve huston is too, although i'd recommend steve's video courses instead of his book

[Anonymous No.6400959]

>>6399761
>one of the crunchiest anatomy books right after basic forms
moronic.

[Anonymous No.6400961]

>>6399761
How can you be lost learning art? Just go to your library and ask the librarian where the learning to draw section is?

[Anonymous No.6401025]

>>6400961
i cant speak for everyone, but as someone who want to draw anime/manga, I can't understand very well how to use the fundamentals to make a anime character. I mean, I can see that I have to know them, but I feel like I am overlook something. I am currently trying Krenz approach. It looks promising, but I still feel like I didn't quite get it.

[Anonymous No.6401088]

>>6400846
Somewhat agree. The book is good for reference of how something should be. I got more value from looking and studying the drawings than I did reading the acutal text. Steve huston is NOT good writer and is terrible at explaining concepts.

I'd pair his book with his videos. And for an actual comprehensive figure drawing book I'd recommend hampton and his lectures on youtube.

[Anonymous No.6401307]

>>6399761
Can't voice my opinion on steps 1-3 (they seem completely fine to me, but perhaps I'm overlooking something) but the manga books are extremely useless and not worth anyone's time. If anything, then video courses from Asians

[Anonymous No.6401313]

>>6401307
I realized that "video courses from Asians" sounds retarded. What I've meant is Class101 (hit or miss) and especially Coloso, there are very few good anime drawing books and most of them are useless junk, so don't waste your time downloading random ones

[Anonymous No.6402043]

The first two were OK-ish, then you recommended Vilppu and >anime.

If your goal is to draw anime, just do the first step, learn some basic anatomy, copy anime/manga styles, and watch how Japanese artists approach things such as
gesture and foreshortening. If you add any extre step, you'll end up drawing western twitter looking anime, which is trash.

[Anonymous No.6402240]

>>6399799
Go to annas-archive.org then

[Anonymous No.6402256]

>>6399761
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>>6400100
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>>6402043
>>6402240
Is drawABox really a meme?

[Anonymous No.6402262]

>>6402256
i don't think so, as long as you don't go insane and only do the excercises exclusively forever.
as a supplement to drawing studies/your own stuff it can give you more line control and remove the barrier between what you want to draw, and what your arm actually ends up drawing.

[Anonymous No.6402290]

>>6402043
>just trace bro
Post your work.

[Anonymous No.6402314]

>>6402256
Why don't you try and see for yourself? Its free. At best, you will improve. At worse, nothing will change.

[Anonymous No.6402682]

>>6399761
Any alternative resources for step 1?

[Anonymous No.6402688]

>>6402682
Michael Hampton, unironically. Follow it with Bridgman for Step 2

[Anonymous No.6402690]

>>6399831
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.6402699]

>>6402256
do it for a bit but as the other anon said dont stay on it forever , just long enough to get what he is getting at.

[Anonymous No.6402717]

>>6402688
Thanks also any other option just in case it doesnt work/clic for me?

[Anonymous No.6402777]

>>6402690
It's so unfair, fren. I can't do that when I try doing anime, how come this pony faggot can??

[Anonymous No.6402974]

>>6402717
Agreed with reply but try to leave Hampton until the end of Step 1. Hampton's forms are the simplest intro to anatomy after reducing things to basic primitive forms. When you get to Bridgman do it with Marshall's lectures.

[Anonymous No.6403070]

>>6402262
kek ive seen a few people do nothing but that fucking box studies.

[Anonymous No.6403087]

>>6402974
I downloaded hamptons book but until what part would you consider it step 1?
Also marshall lectures from youtube right?

[Anonymous No.6403203]

>>6403087
>what part
Honestly I'd consider the whole thing step 2, you should know perspective and all the basic forms. I would also begin gesture at step 2 also unlike the image says to wait until step 3. This is because Hampton does a good job at explaining gesture and you can begin to incorporate the anatomy your learn gesturally. However, you should supplement this with gesture demos as well from the likes of Vilppu, Mattesi's FORCE method, etc.

>marshall lectures from youtube right?
Yes, the youtube playlist.

[Anonymous No.6403217]

>>6401025

[Anonymous No.6403232]

>>6403087
>hampton
he also has a youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@s.michaelhampton9556

[Anonymous No.6403394]

>>6399809
I can't flipping download anything from zlibrary because every single exit node seems to have used up the "free 5 download daily limit". How do you get around this? Did you make an account with them??? Is it safe to do so?

[Anonymous No.6403397]

>>6403394
nvm im retarded 127 is the universal guest IP. Still question if it's worth making an account on zlib? Do they have higher res pdf's than the shit you can find online for free?

[Anonymous No.6403481]

Step 5: Now that you've collected all the learning material in step one through four. Please proceed to lock your battlestation on a 1 year timer behind a panic room and throw your mobile spyware and other devices with internet connectivity into a bucket of bleach outside. If you're unfortunate enough to live in a city, some nigger will steal the bucket impulsively and you may proceed to begin drawing the old fashioned way.

[Anonymous No.6403546]

>>6403394
i dont know if safe, nothing its safe when it comes to ruskies or Tor. I just have an account because it lets you give reviews, download more books per day, save book lists made by other people and make booklists myself

[Anonymous No.6403617]

>>6399761
It's to cut down competition, retard

[Anonymous No.6403801]

>>6403617
i know :D

[Anonymous No.6404316]

>>6399761
OP it's an honor and a privilege to be included in your guide. I really hope it gets saved by tons of anons and sticks around forever so it can haunt me 5-10 years from now.

[Anonymous No.6404327]

>>6403203
>>6403232
thanks