/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6386601]

Christ. Nothing I do will ever surpass the old masters...

[Anonymous No.6386609]

>>6386601
This is why we invented AI, so that it can do the art that masters of old did without you faggots approval

[Anonymous No.6386611]

>>6386601
Just do exactly what they did. Training under a previous master. Is that still a thing?

[Anonymous No.6386616]

>>6386611
idk, there are no 150yo teachers where I live

[Anonymous No.6386651]

>>6386601
>felt cute, might delete later

[Anonymous No.6386654]

>>6386601
Already have>>6386601

[Anonymous No.6386656]

>>6386611
It's still a thing but I don't think there's a single living master that comes close to what they did during the Renaissance.

[Anonymous No.6386682]

>>6386601
>Christ. Nothing I do will ever surpass the old masters...
The only master you must continue to surpass is yourself!

[Anonymous No.6386710]

>>6386601
Can't unsee skeleton man taking a selfie.

[Anonymous No.6386714]

>>6386601
and? don't be a faggot and get over it

[Anonymous No.6386716]

>>6386651
kek

[Anonymous No.6386726]

>>6386651

[Anonymous No.6386727]

who are good sculptors these days?
I found these guys just now
https://www.instagram.com/coderch.malavia.sculptors/
I don't know names of living sculptors.

[Anonymous No.6386822]

>>6386601
The masters sacrificed their entire lives for the trade.
The world wouldn't be fair if you ever surpassed them.

[Anonymous No.6386928]

>>6386822
nobody is commissioning stuff like that these days

[Anonymous No.6386949]

>>6386609
>we
>he really thinks he’s part of the ruling caste and will have a seat at the table when AI takes over everything and the Internet becomes an unusable automated cesspool of spam, deepfakes and propaganda
>mfw AIcels are all like this
>>6386611
>find a mentor
That’s the ideal, Ateliers are probably the closest anyone can get to a classical renaissance style of art education.

[Anonymous No.6387155]

>>6386949
atelier has very different goals. you're better off doing it alone, copying mostly old master drawings, going to museums if there are some near you, copying sculptures not in the way that ateliers teach you.
of course when people say old masters they don't really mean old masters most of the time or they just use it as a byword for "skilled" while not really wanting to do any art that is related to what old masters made.

[Anonymous No.6387383]

>>6386601
What are you talking about? There are replicas of human skeletons in almost every biology classroom

[Anonymous No.6387478]

>>6386601
and what kind of art do you do?

[Anonymous No.6387480]

>>6386611
That's what Vilppu's for!

[Anonymous No.6387610]

>>6386611
yep Bridgeman did that.

[Anonymous No.6388263]

>>6386609
>we
you didn't invent anything and AI algorithms are not going to need you either, you have no skills and nobody will ever pay you for learning how to use this software because anyone can do it

[Anonymous No.6388489]

>>6386601
I bought a bunch of skeleton miniatures and I am tempted to replicate this.

[Anonymous No.6389284]

>>6386601
People often assume old art is magic so let me explain you how this sculpture was made (probably, techniques changed with time so I might be plain fukcing wrong about it lmao)
at first the artist was fucking around with clay. Looking for a design that satisfied him/his client. Clay model was sacrificed to make a mold.
gypsym casts were made.
Precise measurements of the cast were made and compared to the stone block they had.
artists students put the measurments on to the block by drilling holes (they did that because it's busy work. similarly painters apprentices spent their days grinding rocks, flowers, bugs and other shite to a fine powder to make pigments)
Master delagated his students to carving different parts of the sculpture out. He personally did only the things that were especially easy to fuck up.
this sculpture seems to be made out of 3 pieces of stone which can explain the cool hollow stomach.

tl;dr that kind of sculpture is replicable. You just have to know how it was made

[Anonymous No.6389347]

>>6389284
are you like a fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.6389409]

>>6389347
Well fuck you too mate

[Anonymous No.6389457]

>>6389284
It's clearly made out of plaster.

[Anonymous No.6389463]

>>6389284
they still had to design the clay sculpt and then plan ahead. carving it out and finishing in marble still requires finesse. old master paintings can also be replicated even down to the pigments and technique if you know them, but still hardly anyone can do it right.
old master painters didn't use flowers or insect powder as pigments. they extracted the dye and fixed them into a colorless precipitate pigment.

[Anonymous No.6389468]

>>6389457
it's limestone

[Anonymous No.6389475]

>>6389284
>step1:get clay
>step2:sculpt the fucking owl
>step3:let your assistants recarve the owl
easy enough

[Anonymous No.6389484]

>>6386611
Every new artist requires to be paid at beginner level. Beginner artists that can barely draw basic shapes. Good luck being a pro then mentoring artistic retards.

[Anonymous No.6389513]

>>6389484
>apprentices
>being paid

[Anonymous No.6389602]

>>6389475
That's most of the working world.
>have good idea
>convince others to produce good idea
Most people refuse to believe that's the case because most people are on the production end of things. It fucking sucks to think about spending the majority of your life working for someone else's dream.
Yes, many old masters were very hardworking and talented, but they usually possessed the means to pursue art at a VERY young age. By the time they were middle aged they had been masters for decades and could easily convince college kids to do grunt work.
One of the biggest modern examples would be Jeff Koons. I don't give a shit what you think about his art, I'm just drawing parallels to production processes.

[Anonymous No.6389728]

>>6386609
>we
Lmao everyone know you have to cope with smelling bag of shit everyday stem dropout pajeet.

[Anonymous No.6389936]

>>6386601
Not with that attitude!