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>> No.6385839
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>>6385834

>> No.6385841

>>6385834

https://twitter.com/kortizart/status/1594859822674944001

>> No.6385844

>>6385834
Weren’t AI prompters real artists and their prompts worked like their brushes?

This automation thing is just an endless cycle until all we do is just watch and that’s not only with art.

>> No.6385848

>>6385834
I think new copywrite laws will be made in the future to prevent monitizing these types of AI models. Mainly because it is extremely easy to enforce such copyright laws. There are no gray areas here, the court can gain access to the training dataset and clearly see the artists who were infringed upon.

On the other hand though I wonder how could AAA studios use models like this in a legitimate way?
Even if they were prepared to pay every artist the that the model was trained on, it would be like 1,000 different artists that they would have to contact and ask for permission. Basically impossible logistically.

>> No.6385861

>>6385834
They took some never asked and not needed tech and tried to get rid of the artistic process, letting a machine does every single step for you and all you had to do was prompt, but now they thought it was still too much of a gatekeeping I guess?

What has become of art, don’t you feel ashamed? Art isn’t a product that needs do be industrialized and mass produced, it’s not essential, instead, it’s a human trait, just like acting or dancing, it doesn’t need automation and even if you automate them, nothing beneficial will come out it, differently than automating fabrics, farms, etc.

>> No.6385866

>>6385848
> court can gain access to the training dataset and clearly see the artists who were infringed upon.
NovelAI, for example, is probably the one profiting the most, but they don’t use artist’s names in their prompt system and once the model is made, all artworks used already became some random noise.

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>>6385848
>it would be like 1,000 different artists that they would have to contact and ask for permission. Basically impossible logistically.
No, not at all. You buy the rights to their portfolios, hire a bunch of jeets to do the needful data entry, and you're all set. What, you think there's roadblocks set up on the race to the bottom? The only way you can stop this is by adding toilets to all your paintings. If you won't do it, nobody to blame but yourself.

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>>6385834
Listen, you can complain on the internet all you want, but only a legal action will actually give you a result. In fact AIfags count on you not taking it to the court.

>> No.6385903

>>6385893
Artists are mostly ok with this. If it was with music, it would be already over by now. They are the most protective class with their copyrighted stuff.

>> No.6385905

>>6385903
>Artists are mostly ok with this
No they aren't.

>> No.6385907

>>6385903
Labels are, not artists

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>>6385834
>Not only can AIfags not draw themselves, they can't even monkeysmash a typewriter to come up with 10 words to make a machine draw for them

>> No.6385911

i wish imagen ai was never invented or stayed in the realm of research i don't even want to think about it anymore.

>> No.6385920

>>6385905
I hardly ever see a rant on social media aside from Palmer and Ortiz, now image a coordinated action.

I’ve also seen countless of YouTube videos from artists saying “AI is just a trend”, “it’s bullshit, it’ll never replace humans”, “there’s nothing to worry about”.

>> No.6385923
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>Artists are obsolete! Artists are annoying clout chasers! Art isn't a real job, you shouldn't make money from it!
>continue to use real artists' works to train their models
>sell generators based on real artists' works for money
>use real artists' works to promote their generators
>AIfags have shown they're even worse clout chasers and more of a group of condescending attention whores than real artists ever were
Why are they like this?

>> No.6385929

>>6385923
That's how thieves act

>> No.6385960

>>6385923
The difference is most artists get into art because they like it, even third worlders are like that. Making money from art is only a way to sustain an artist's lifestyle that is to make art instead of doing anything else. You can work in mcdonald and make the same money you would have to study art for years to start making

On the other hand AIfags don't care about art until someone tells them there's a tool to steal art for them, and all they need to do is to pick a well camouflaged stolen product and sell for easy money. Which is the perfect scam. Easy money always is. They never think of art as art, just easy money. They see rich artists who make good money and think wow, now that I have access to their skills I can make that much money too. Only they don't understand why those artists make good money in the first place, because they don't understand art.

>> No.6385968

>>6385960
Why would you go out of your way to mention 3rd worlders though?

>> No.6385973

>>6385920
Your eyes deceive you. Everyone’s mad

>> No.6385974

>>6385968
Not him, but given the worldwide reach of the internet and economic disparities between countries, thirdworlders who live in areas with shitty economic conditions can charge rates which in their country would be exorbitant, but to somebody living in a firstworld country is chump change.

>> No.6385976

>>6385968
There's a perception that third worlders live like kings by doing art, so they do it for the money. Which is wrong. Learning to do art is a long and grueling process. It's easier for them to "make it", or get a livable income, sure. But even for them, getting a wageslave job is still a better prospect instead of risking years of practice until they make it, which is almost impossible not to quit halfway through if you don't like doing art in the first place. There is no "made it" artist who doesn't like making art more than anything else
t. Third worlder

>> No.6385984

>>6385974
Should I move to the third world? Is Japan a third world country?

>> No.6385988

>>6385844
I like this better. As an ai artist, prompting is quite exhausting. With this, I can find my vision in a relaxed way, a kind of, "I'll know it when I see it." My subconscious will recognize my art, my vision, among the output images.

>> No.6385989

>>6385976
Yeah, not to mention it isn't a particularly stable job, especially if you're working entirely freelance. You might stumble across an occasional commission hound who has an endless well of ideas they want to see, but one day they get bored, die, or fall on economic hardships of their own. Or you fall into a bout of art block, can barely throw together anything presentable, and your Patreon bux drop due to low output and a dip in quality. I guess some of the people who get their panties in a wad over artists making money from commissions assume that every commissioned artist is pumping out furfag sketches for $300 a pop with more orders than they can handle or runs a $10,000 a month Patreon account, but the reality is that even a lot of popular artists aren't reliably rolling in the cash (and if they're from an area with a high cost of living, there's a very good chance they're making less than minimum wage from their work).

>> No.6385998

>>6385988
This. At the end of the day, I'm a white collar artist/art director, and all best directors know how to guide and let their team due the work, advising and correcting as needed to achieve a strong, cohesive vision and pleasing product. Too much micromanaging of prompts is honestly counterproductive and typically a sign of an unskilled and indecisive AI artist.

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>>6385988
YWNBARA

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>>6386001
I dress like an artist, I have similar interests, I talk like an artist(chiaroscuro!), I use artist websites and I even have an artist name (Neo-Vermeer). I feel bad when people say I'm not an artist, so that's more evidence I actually am one.

>> No.6386011

Soon the audience will be automated too.

>> No.6386013

>>6385929
This shit have happended in China for more than 30 years, with million of cheap photoshopers rather than AI. This is a sign of your countries starting to become China.

>> No.6386018

>>6386001
the fun part is that AI algorithms are not going to need Ai "artists" to press a button within the next 6 years
AI artists are not necessary, why pay a faggot to write a sentence and make two clicks when the AI can do it without any help?

>> No.6386029

>>6386018
>when AI faggots start seething about future AI models generating images without prompts, based on having recorded and "trained" on the inputs of prompters

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The technology itself seems to be received positively but AIchuds aren't. Am I in an echo chamber or is the public perception of the AI "artists" being more and more negative?

>> No.6386135

AI is just a tool stupid artists

>> No.6386136

Silence is violence. Artists are wilfully letting techkikes fuck them in the ass. All you can do is complain but do nothing about the actual process. At the end of the day maybe you deserve it.

>> No.6386141

>>6386124
The mass production of art means the removal of the individual creator. 'AI artist' is an oxymoron like fast food chef. Instead you have AI art brands/services like you have food brands and services.

>> No.6386142

>>6386124
>The technology itself seems to be received positively but AIchuds aren't.
There was never positive sentiment of this technology.
Only retards who thought they would make it big were positive. But most have already stopped prompting because it's a pointless endevour. If you don't believe me take a look at the post rate of /h/ which is plummeting.

>> No.6386156

>>6386142
Normal people like it, but normal people also don't give a fuck about art 99% of the time.

>> No.6386157

>>6386142
>There was never positive sentiment of this technology.
In the early days, when it was still quite abstract, it seemed cool for ideation, Rorschach/paradoilia kinda stuff. I painted over a few for fun that were mostly blobs of color and texture. That was with disco diffusion. I had no idea about the dataset stuff at the time though. feels gross to use now.

>> No.6386158

>>6386157
ikr sister like yikes sooooo gross i need to spend an extra hour dilating rn

>> No.6386160

>>6386158
I kept losing depth you know? and the smell... oh god, I can't leave my house like this.

>> No.6386204

>>6385923
The techbros and cryptobros refugees coming in after tech companies started cutting their bloat and crypto going down the shitter.

>> No.6386229

My best AI art wasn't referring to any artist. But long detailed explanations with what I wanted using wikipedia to reference architecture ect.
This was using disco diffusion not the new ones too.

>> No.6386237

>>6385968
for third worlders, tech and code is seen as "a way out", their ticket to a good life. Its an extension of "study hard and your life will be great". Art is kind of the opposite, its about enjoying the life you have and creating something beautiful out of it. Even though art takes a lot of study and practice, normal people think its just innate and luck based. They see an artist and think "why do I have toil away for ten hours a day while he gets to draw pretty pictures?"

>> No.6386251

>>6386018
>Won’t need Ai "artists" to press a button within the next 6 years
More like 3 months. I always said it. Promptniggers will be automated faster then real artists. Look what is happening. People still prefer real artists, real artists who have a clout are not losing money, and real industry artists like concept artists and background artists are nowhere losing jobs at mass. But at the same time promoters are already being automated. This is why this board never took AI art as a tool for artists. Only a fool or grifter would say that, and by using this tool you only make it stronger.

>> No.6386252

>>6386018
Right?As the vile repulsive creatures that they are they offer nothing of value. Their only purpose is to leech of other artists making it even more difficult for said artists to make a living. Parasites.
Adopting this tool is imoral in Itself and even more so if you try and monetize from it. It's so far removed from artistry that any of the greats that has ever lived would feel nothing but disdain for these self proclaimed "artists".

They're not artists but rather a mockery of us.

>> No.6386254

>>6386135
Spoken like a cow.

>> No.6386260

>>6386136
In fairness what can we really do about it. We're talking about standing up against the most powerful megacorporations in the world. Not all of us have platforms to reach out. A lot of us are very much against this.
Not all of us are the same. Not all of us are shilling this shit like other midwits on youtube.
It's the same tiring story with another twist; the reasonable are being drowned out by a bunch of extatic cows and sheeps.

>> No.6386271

>>6386135
If it’s just a tool, then why can it make pieces of art all by itself?
>Get Stable Diffusion
>Wait for prompt generator to finally get released
>Get random word generator and python script copying Twitter trends from the sidebar
>Connect them together
>Endless stream of art completely artist free

>> No.6386278

>>6386260
Stable Diffusion is the main nigger in the room. They are kinda small company in the grand scheme of tech, only being worth 1 billion and having so actual source of revenue considering their products are free and open source. Taking Stability AI down is pretty realistic goal. The other ones are not that big of a problem. Midjurney can be very easily sued afterwards if people manage to sue SD, and Google + OpenAI are cool cucks that prioritise long term human safety over short term profits, which is the reason why their AIs are always closed to the public for years and then they are rarely open source. Also they get censored a lot.

>> No.6386338

>>6386278
Hope you're right. May they be sued to oblivion for what they've done. It is conserning though how many big corporations are funding SD.. Even elon musk. The supposed "hero" of the people.
I have so much disdain for all these drooling techcows. How can we as a people let a bunch of greedy nerds utterly destroy the progress of human creativity?To have nerds dictate the fate of creativity like this is nothing short of absurd.
This was the nail in the coffin for me. I have basically given up hope of my fellow man. We're living in the age of the spiteful mutant and they're destroying everything.
Anyways. Enough of my rants. I'll be back to painting my work that will remain hidden from the eye of sauron until this usery possibly gets resolved.
May we find ourselves in brighter times ahead anon.

>> No.6386342

>>6385923
Absolutely based, profit oriented mindset

>> No.6386353

>>6386278
Sue SD for what lmao, developing an open source tech? Using open source dataset prepared by a different company (laion.ai)? And with what money, your cents made off commisions? They could keep the case open for years, during which it'd drain you and your family dry off any funds. I swear to god, like half of people here think with their asses, if you wanna sue anyone, sue NovelAI, who used SD, trained a model off artworks that were not in open source database, and fully paywalled everything

>> No.6386357

>>6385834
So it recommends artists based on your interests, and artists don't like it?
You know they'll just stop using names right.

>> No.6386365

>>6386353
>Using open source dataset prepared by a different company (laion.ai)?
Isn't that the same fucking company... Yeah very clean laundering data from your nonprofit into a for profit venture, nothing to see here guys.

>> No.6386369

>>6385848
>There are no gray areas here, the court can gain access to the training dataset and clearly see the artists who were infringed upon.
You're an idiot, if you put your own hand drawn picture from pure imagination in it will still tell you what prompt was theoretically used, and it will list artists who's 'styles' you're 'infringing' in your hand drawn picture, and tag files that you've never seen before. It's in no way proof of copyright infringement. Try it if you don't believe me.

>> No.6386370

>>6386357
it's a prompt generator. You no longer have to write any prompts yourself! All the hard work of prompting is taken cared of. Prompts include up to 1500+ artist's names to give you the best. customazation

>> No.6386372

>>6386278
>>6386353
SD funded Laion. Laion is for non profit use, but SD is now using it for profit.

>> No.6386375

>>6386271
It wouldn't work, you'd need the model to be constantly updated to be able to keep up with the Twitter trends, or it wouldn't recognize the new meme characters and concepts.

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>>6386278
>already training beep boop based on several years worth of /ic/ collection set
Just try and stop me, faggots.

>> No.6386378

>>6386370
No one actually writes prompts anyway, they copy and paste them from /g/ and change the names

>> No.6386379

>>6386372
I'd like you to point me where they are making cash off the stable diffusion models that were cofounded by runwayml, and that are being published under name of runwayml.
Also, even if you get funded by someone, that doesn't imply it's the same company.

>> No.6386380

>>6386377
Based. AI generated /beg/ crab memes.

>> No.6386383

>>6386372
Stable diffusion is free

>> No.6386385

>>6386001
Holy seething fedora post

>> No.6386389

>>6386383
StabilityAI is for profit company. That’s what matters, not if their main product is for free.

>> No.6386391

>>6386389
An actual retard, lmao. To sue them on basis that they are somehow incorrectly using the model, you gotta be able to prove they 1. use it at all, and 2. that they use it to generate profit, you can't just go to judge and be like "uguu well they are a for-profit organization so I'm sure they have some evil schemes running!!!!111 These god darn capitalists!1" Also, stable diffiusion itself is indeed free and they can use it for commercial purposes if they want to, it doesn't hold any training data on it's own, that's what the models are for.

>> No.6386395

>>6386383
>>6386391
Hey, look, the shill is back.

>> No.6386403

>>6386395
>shill
Stability dev in the flesh.

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>Stable Diffusion is the main nigger in the room. They are kinda small company in the grand scheme of tech, only being worth 1 billion and having so actual source of revenue considering their products are free and open source. Taking Stability AI down is pretty realistic goal. The other ones are not that big of a problem. Midjurney can be very easily sued afterwards if people manage to sue SD, and Google + OpenAI are cool cucks that prioritise long term human safety over short term profits, which is the reason why their AIs are always closed to the public for years and then they are rarely open source. Also they get censored a lot.

>> No.6386416

Figured as much. No one benefits from this but NFT and crypto scammers who desperately look for new outlets after their original schemes crashed and burned.

>> No.6386431

>>6386414
>Communists HATE AI
>Communists LOVE AI
You retards really need to decide on what you want to shitpost with

>> No.6386435

>>6386431
Communists hate the corporations, and the AI is developed by the corporations, so in my opinion, commies HATE AI

>> No.6386445

>>6386431
/pol/turds call everyone they don't like communists, and /pol/ loves AI. Too bad they don't realize being a posthumanist faggot makes you a communist too.

>> No.6386470

>>6385903
Artists aren't fine with it, but taking it to the court is going to cost at minimum $150 million+ before the case resolves because the AIfags are going to get backed up by google and spotify that don't want them to lose the first case. You might win, but you need to be able to handle a 50-year legal process costing a small country's GDP in order to get there.
Nonzero chance your lawyers also get bought, or shot, or you fall of a balcony, or have an "unexplained" heart attack, because CIA and other 3-letter agencies don't want the AIfags to lose either because they are doing the same thing with facial recognition.

>> No.6386484

>>6386377
Yet when you look at your deformed face in the mirror I bet you can't escape the fact that you're nothing but a failure. Nothing but a grown ass person who chose to lash out instead of accepting your own inadequacies and lack of work ethic. So you'd rather just destroy it for everyone.

You are the most despised of us all and I'm sure fate will find a way to humble you eventually.
I know I probably don't need to say this, because it's never gona happen anyway but please don't reproduce.

>> No.6386486

>>6386445
/pol/ are full of retard boomers. One Canadian fag spam "tranime" for 2 years and the boomers start spam the same word on their Facebook.

>> No.6386494

>>6386431
Real commies love AI. If the artists who hate it would open their eyes just a little while, they'd maybe start to understand why AI is a good illustration of why communism is fucking retarded.

>> No.6386587

every day around this time, rhajeet comes home and starts furiously shilling AI shit in exchange for 5 rupies an hour

>> No.6386615

>>6386484
Who keeps writing this cringy cliche form of lashing out? I'll have to ask the GPT-kun. I swear there's a name for this character trope.

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>>6386615
Anon, it's babby's first attempt at dehumanization. You're speaking fo an AI trained on Kiwi Farms rage posts in a Destiny thread, thread not pic related.

>> No.6386657

>>6385834
>AI "artists" are now being replaced by AI
Pottery

>> No.6386660

>>6386657
That was always our goal, chud.

>> No.6386668

>>6386377
Why? Is this accelerationism? Are people trying to make the internet unusable? Whats left when everything and everyone online is fabricated people are already feeling more alone and alienated from eachother than at any point in human history what will happen when those same people only interact with digital ghosts ai shit is immoral but also just plain horrifying for the future there are hypothetical good uses for the tech but in reality it will be used for the perpetuation of suffering and the inevitable offloading of all complex thought those who sing its praises will be the first to loose the human consciousness

>> No.6386676

>>6385834
>idiots on twitter upset because now there potential future jobs as a promoter is at risk
>suddenly ai isn't ok to them
Jesus christ.

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>>6386668
It already is. Some just refuse to open their eyes to this hivemind in the making. Only shock therapy remains

>> No.6386679

>>6386677
nice hands and wobbly eyebrows; you generate them yourself?

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>>6386679
No mister pedantic bit she did

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These threads are starting to get so sad. Imagine being the guy who keeps bumping the threads and pretty much talking alone. Like how do you even get to that point?

>> No.6386702

>>6386677
>it already is
Thats defeatist cope you replace your hope and care for others with cynicism and misanthropy
>hivemind
No lmao more like continued extraction by the wealthy while simultaneously retreating into smaller and smaller enclaves whilst the rest of the world burns but humanity will live on outside the walls of whatever tech fiefdoms remain
>>6386692
I check in once and a while on these threads but yeah I agree I'm glad to have people in my life that keep me from engrossing myself in shit like this

>> No.6386703

>>6385984
>is Japan third world country?
Hah you funny. Third world is when mid salary near 500 dollars or lower. Mexico, Brazil, Poland, Moldova, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia.

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>>6386660

>> No.6386721

>>6386702
Defeatist is a meaningless buzzword used by /pol/tards in denial of reality or think everyone shares the same perspective or conditions of defeat as they do.

>> No.6386724

>>6386702
>No lmao more like continued extraction by the wealthy while simultaneously retreating into smaller and smaller enclaves whilst the rest of the world burns but humanity will live on outside the walls of whatever tech fiefdoms remain
Alright so you don't know what I refer to even though you're already living it in its infancy. Cool.

>> No.6386729

>>6386724
I know exactly what you're talking about i just think you and those like you are retarded babies who spend to much time online

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>>6386729
>I check in once and a while on these threads but yeah I agree
>I'm glad to have people in my life that keep me from engrossing myself in shit like this
>who spend to much time online
No I don't think you do. That's why you type out these corny lines with stock irrelevant detail where you unsolicitedly talk about yourself like a teenage need to validate herself to others. This some basic NPC level dialogue. You might as well be an AI.

>> No.6386859

>>6386615
It's not rocketscience. by the amount of spite that you show us I know you're misserable. You're kicking a dead horse. There's nothing more despicable than that.
I grew up with people like you. For some reason I keep stumbling into you. Maybe to learn to disconnect from you but there is something so vile and utterly repulsive about you that makes me just want to remind you of your place in the greater scheme of things. I just can't help myself.
All of you spitefull nerds are pathetic and I think you need to hear that every once in a while.

>> No.6386868

>>6386721
Defeatist is a word with a definition should I have just called you a bitch instead?
>>6386736
>you don't talk like an esl bug and that makes me mad
Cry more maybe your 3 legged ai slop waifu will cheer you up or better yet go outside faggot

>> No.6386874

>>6386668
Thats the goal. The moment voice synthesis becomes indistinguishable from real speech and chatbots learn how to react to stuff on screen, we will replace all Vtubers and Youtubers too shy to show their faces. Then when deepfake moves from fugly, we will replace even the youtubers who look at the camera. Once prompt generators become good enough to fully replace prompt engineers by just writing word sallad and outputting great prompts, we will create endless amount of Twitter bot accounts and Pixiv accounts, and Deviantart accounts, and all other social media accounts, and spam the internet with AI generated art that was also directed by AI, and prompted by random word generator. We will flood youtube with shitty AI made videos, spamming Netflix with AI made movies, spamming Steam with AI made games. For every human made content, there will be 10 to 100 AI contents coming up. It will overload all the world servers to the point where they will have to stop it somehow, but it will be impossible. Just not marking AI content as AI content nobody will be able to tell them apart, so they will have to figure out something that will limit both AI and humans. Once that is done, the bottom people will be excluded from the internet, internet will become paid service in order to stay afloat with all of that traffic. Poor people will not afford being on the internet, but rich guy who already paid for 600 graphics cards to run the botnet will be able to do it. Step by step bots will be replacing humans from the web, until the web becomes completely unusable, disgusting to all people around, and overall just a pile of shit. All social media companies will go the route of Twitter and Facebook in the recent years, and all content made by AI will be ridiculed. This operation will cause damage that will be remembered, and will be used as justification to never ever develop social media for normies or use AI for this.

The world will then heal from the wounds of 21st century.

>> No.6386887

>>6386874
I now remember when Deepfakes first came out and everyone was screaming about people being able to generate fake news everywhere.
Almost 6 years later nothing changed lmao.

>> No.6386951
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>>6386874
Good. Maybe AI will make Shogun 3 one day using the base template isn't of making ROME 2/Warhammer slop.

>> No.6386963

>>6386868
Good post.

>> No.6386973

>>6386868
Can't be defeated when already playing for team AI sabotaging /ic/

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>>6386692
>pretty much talking alone
what do you think an AI machine does

>> No.6387102

>>6386951
it would be nicer if an artist did it, there are some mistakes you could forgive because of the rendering skill.

if the AI did it by lifting art online the mistakes and general lack of direction become unforgivable.

>> No.6387113

>>6387102
It would but those guys are hiding out umderground in the bosom of H games. People these days just make slop.

>> No.6387125
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6387125

it's not that AI is going to kill digital/traditional artists
it's that art itself is going to become so fucking irrelevant because any random anon is going to be able to create any artwork for a videogame, album cover, or anything without any help
you're better off learning how to create videos/music/videogames even though AI is going to learn how to make those too in a few years
the good thing is that those AI "Artists" who are laffing now are going to be irrelevant and utterly useless within the next 5 years because guess what; nobody fucking needs (you) either, you have no skill, and anybody can do what you do with a 5 min tutorial, even a 60-year-old man with 0 knowledge will be able to create the art for his website without any help

>> No.6387178

>>6385848
pay per play

>> No.6387182

>>6387125
>SD plugins for apps
Krita: https://www.flyingdog.de/sd/en | https://github.com/sddebz/stable-diffusion-krita-plugin | https://github.com/Interpause/auto-sd-krita
Photoshop: https://github.com/Invary/IvyPhotoshopDiffusion | https://github.com/internationalTD/defuser
Blender & GIMP: https://rentry.org/sdg-link

>> No.6387185

>>6387125
good morning sir
very good demoralizing post sir

>> No.6387225

>>6385834
I'm beginning to think the artbots do search for specific images based on what the users enters into the prompt. The artbot will create a model of a specific artist's work & with machine learning it is able to make a few touches here & there.

>> No.6387240

>>6387125
>drawing for fun chads still winning

>> No.6388307

>>6385903
>Artists are mostly ok with this.

No. me being one and all other art people i know arent. what you're just seeing is hopelessness. waiting for someone to do something about it.

>> No.6388324

>>6385923
traditional is not a style.

>> No.6388330

>>6388324
Ai fags dont care. Big booba girl in early 18th century clothing is all they care about with that option

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>>6386338
Musk in particular has it out for artists. His stake in the pot is not surprising at all.

>> No.6388339

>>6388331
Retard should just go back to making those cars.

>> No.6388357
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pretty decent hands, this is a keeper

>> No.6388358

>>6388357
Sauce? I mean, who are the original artists this stole from?

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6388360

>>6388357
>those hill billy teeth
Fucking lmao

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6388362

>>6388358
used a personal blend of prompts and custom model mix (SD 1.5 + NAi+ WD 1.3)
pls support my patreon if you want to see more

>>6388360
Hajime Ippo is classic anime, I highly recommend to any anons who enjoy good story and boxing!

>> No.6388365

>>6388358
shirt wrinkles look like sexycuterobutts
https://twitter.com/cutesexyrobutts/status/1533580904475639809

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6388366

is ai art good for you?

>> No.6388369

>>6388360
I see it.
What a shame, 2 second in PS should've fixed that.

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>>6388357
>>6388362
forgot to mention that i'm trans lawl oopsie.

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6388381

>>6388378
>>6388362
Your trolling is not funny dumbfuck

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>>6388381
>posting ai images in an ai thread
>trolling
what did the flustered failed furry drawfag mean by this?

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6388385

>>6388381
you lost, chud, deal with it

>> No.6388389

>>6388381
for 2 months you've probably wasted a good chunk of your free time on these threads by now, let it go

stop posting and ignore these threads already retard

>> No.6388393

>>6388389
>>6388385
>>6388384
>AI faggot
>Larps as tranny on board that talks about tranhumanists being trannies
>Asks to get donations for Patreon
Here you have your own joke explained to you

>> No.6388397

>>6388393
???

>> No.6388414

>>6388389
The funniest thing is that I am not even an artist. I don't do any kind of art except for occasional doodles.

I am stemfag who looks at the state of AI art, and observe how it is evolving and how it will soon creep into my own major. Techbros were saying for decades that coding and creative jobs will be the last to automate, and now we see the complete fucking opposite happening, so I don't buy a single piece of shit coming from these guys mouth.

Also another thing is that Art being automated is perhaps the single biggest line to be crossed in terms of automation affecting human society and US people developing with AI. Art is not useful, its not finite, its oversaturated and NOBODY was asking for it to be automated, while many people are heavily against it. If art gets automated just because we are able to automate it and we automate literally anything that can be automated, then we are heading for the single worst future possible.

If we can automate these "priviliged" artists taking too much money to draw more pictures then people can consume, then what is stopping us from replacing CEOs? What s stopping us from replacing the government? You wanna pay 500k salary to some dipshit CEO doing less work then the average worker in his company? After all CEOs are nothing but tools for the investors to produce more money from the company. Why not let AI research AI research? What could go wrong when textbots that we barely manage to not make racist gain the ability to learn at exponential rate without human oversight? What could go wrong when we provide bots literally any date to learn from? If copyrighted material is not safe from learning, then why not let the soon to be AGI learn about manipulation psychology articles? Why not let it learn research into the internet networks? Why not let it learn about secret government projects if it is part of the government? Why not just fucking kill ourselves because any critic of AI is a luddite too scared of change?

>> No.6388420

>>6388358
nta, but chief theme of these threads seems to be artist outrage over art theft.

I can understand twitter trannies creating drama over this, but /ic/ has and had for years had multiple threads pirating artbooks, and art instruction vids and such?
Ho can you feign concern over ai theft when you steal from living artists constantly?
They are not Marvel movies, art instruction is a tiny niche market and you've been stealing from them wholesale for years, laughing at anyone calling it theft or piracy?

Anyone want to even comment on this apparent hypocrisy and lack of concern?

>> No.6388423

>>6388414
You think this isn't by design? The elites want us plebs to work miserable and meaningless jobs until we die. They will not stop until everyone is living in pods, working the coal mines while being pacified by infinite and tailored to you AI entertainment. The retards in here posting in favor AI either do not see the writing on the wall or they are astroturfing.

>> No.6388426

>>6388414
>then what is stopping us from replacing CEOs?
CEOs ;)
>What s stopping us from replacing the government?
a good chuck of buracrcy can be replaced, but the Congressmen will keep their jobs, of course
>You wanna pay 500k salary to some dipshit CEO doing less work then the average worker in his company? After all CEOs are nothing but tools for the investors to produce more money from the company.
CEOs think otherwise and so do the board mad eof up CEO candidates
>Why not let AI research AI research?
it's already being used, look up what CUDA does
>What could go wrong when textbots that we barely manage to not make racist gain the ability to learn at exponential rate without human oversight? What could go wrong when we provide bots literally any date to learn from?
Training ai routine, it's just data
>If copyrighted material is not safe from learning, then why not let the soon to be AGI learn about manipulation psychology articles?
They probably already do
>Why not let it learn research into the internet networks?
sure
>Why not let it learn about secret government projects if it is part of the government?
non sequitur
>Why not just fucking kill ourselves because any critic of AI is a luddite too scared of change?
another non sequitur

Do you have any worthwhile questions?

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>>6388423
here comes da /pol/ice~!!

>> No.6388432

>>6388426
Why are you brown?

>> No.6388435

>>6388414
>NOBODY was asking for it to be automated
I asked, enough people did, it's a natural outgrowth of image recognition tech
>while many people are heavily against it.
yes, about two dozen twitter troons and you lot

There will be a million ppl soon using DALLE2 when it's embedded on Microsoft's new version Office, and it's not meant to replace any artists, just stock photos, the actual shit replaced you snowflakes ~20 years ago.

>> No.6388437

>>6388432
I accept your concession ;)

>> No.6388441

>>6388437
It's easy to not type like a brown person, you just have to try.

>> No.6388442

>>6388441
post your hands, pedro

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6388449

>>6388414
lol

>> No.6388454

>>6388449
I do life science research. I am not techbro of engineer, I am scientist, or will be in 3 years after finishing my masters

>> No.6388456

>>6388454
very good, keep your head up stem-bro

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if this is your competition, were you really an artist?

>> No.6388461

>>6388435
I hope so. Again, I am not personally going to be affected, but it is good reference for the future and how much oversight will it require.

>> No.6388513

>>6385960
>>6385974
>>6385976
>>6385989
I'm from the 3rd world and can confirm these. Artists from the first world think it's easier for us. In reality the opportunities we have are very limited given our location, not to mention a lower cost of living means lower quality of life. I have lost clients simply due to slow, choppy internet, imagine that. There are months I get to earn zero and had to withdraw from my savings. I am doing this primarily for my love of drawing from wonky anatomy and stiff gestures to something presentable enough to be paid for.

>> No.6388516

>>6388513
which third world, Americas or Asia, I'm in Philippines

>> No.6388551

>>6385988
>>6385998
>>6386009
kek'd at these posts
>>6386001
cring'd at this one
if you can't see the blatantly obvious tongue in cheek nature of the posts above I'm not sure what to tell you except that maybe you have autism or something

>> No.6388560

>>6388516
Malaysia

>> No.6388565

>>6388560
Malaysia doesn't have slow internet, you should move somewhere else within the country, maybe cities.

>> No.6388573

>>6388381
You aren't doing yourself any favors by taking the bait and being outwardly butthurt
You're just asking for it at this point, doofus

>> No.6388577

https://stability.ai/blog/stable-diffusion-v2-release
don't worry, it's censored ;)

>> No.6388594

>>6388560
Malaysian internet is leagues better than syrupland, very unlucky

>> No.6388817

>>6388577
And three days from now some fag will retrain it on all rule34, pixie, deviantart and danboru. The power of open source technology

>> No.6388859

>>6388414
based

>> No.6388864

>>6385988
>>6385998
You're just consumers, how pathetic can you be? You don't have a vision, time to admit it

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>>6385998
bro is picrel you?

>> No.6388870

>>6388435
There are far fewer proompt/pro AI fags than there are people against AI art, because unless you're hopelessly autistic, you'll realize that we're losing something that makes us human. I don't expect you to get it.

>> No.6388874

>>6388426
You didn't even adress what he said. For one, CEOs are just gonna set up an AI for them and then watch it make money. How that's not the obvious outcome to you is beyond me.

>> No.6388881

>>6388420
Piracy has always and will always be a service problem. This has been demonstrated time and time again. People are more than willing to pay for decent art education, but the fact is that art education is varied and doesn't work for everyone because artists are inherently different. Some learn from Proko, others learn from copying Bridgman, others still just wing it and draw figures for years.
Regardless, I did pirate James Gurney's books, as well as How to Draw and a bunch of other art books. And when I had the money, I also bought the ones that were most useful to me.
But since you're so worried about the wellbeing of art instruction, you should be even more worried about teachers losing a large chunk of their potential income from people who are demoralized and who will stop drawing because there is no longer a real career for artists. No more top artists who will direct potential buyers and pupils towards the best teachers.

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>> No.6388921

Who cares? I get pleasure from my work for just completing it. I’m a NEET so money doesn’t even matter for me. I welcome AI to try and copy my borderline schizo art. Spread that love around to everyone.

>> No.6388938

>>6385893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd2PeKDHzsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJVWN_-jB8&t

>> No.6388999

>>6388420
my shelf is full of art books you fucking moron. and I don't copy their content to make my own books through plagiarism, so even if I did pirate shit your argument would be just as vapid. I'm not trying to sell their books disguised as new content, or pretend that I made it. go be "concerned" retard somewhere else you small brained halfwit

>> No.6389008

>>6388999
don't even bother, it's the same schizo that's been posting that same cope for weeks. hopefully it will move on.

>> No.6389704

>>6388921

They only steal from good artist

>> No.6389715

>>6389704
Not really, I see that Nijijourney generating some begginer furry shit, gay shit and some low tier anime shit. They posted here saying it has “soul”.

>> No.6389716

>>6388817
more like three months, and it's uncertain

>> No.6389718

>>6388999
>my shelf is full of art books
and I'm sure every anon is the same, sweet honest anon ;)

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>>6389715
>garbage coomer furshit has SOVL in the age of ai art

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>>6388870
>There are far fewer proompt/pro AI fags than there are people against AI art
/ic/ doesn't matter, and I've yet to see any ip# greater then 200 in any /ic/ threads, Midjourney's discord alone has 200K active users, and that's the non-coomer paying model, not teh free SD that makes waifu

>we're losing something that makes us human
this doesn't mean anything other than you are scared YOU will lose your (future) job, though understandable, it still an opinion, I'm sure you cried tears too when bank tellers got replaced with ATMs

>> No.6389730

>>6388881
>care about artists enough to bitch at ai art
>unapologetic defend piracy and pretend an extremely small niche product is the same as mass consumption vidya market and isn't hurt by their primarily audience stealing it for free
Both ai pajeets and /ic/ beggers steal, anon.
The only difference you think you will "make it" someday and be big enough for losers to steal from you.

>> No.6389749

>>6389724
Is there a job that can’t be replaced?

>> No.6389758

at the end of the day people at risk of losing their livelihoods, no matter what it is, and especially in a craft which requires a lot of passion and practice, is a very unfortunate thing to witness.
most people just don't care, sadly. they won't care until it affects them.

>> No.6389768

>>6389749
Anything that requires reason, that there is not enough data to build an AI with. Plumbing for example. Looking for a leak in a bathroom, knowing the plans of the house is one step, but what if there were revisions you were only told about? what if the leak you are looking for was actually from a water-balloon fight that the kids hid the evidence of?

>> No.6389771

>>6389749
CEOs and congressmen, plumbers and electricians, according to this thread.

But seriously, technically none.
It just depends on the society and will or the people and leaders.
Look at the last 30 years, USA has exported it's entire manufacturing industry to China at the expense and destruction of the middle class so millionaire can become billionaires, while Japan and Germany kept theirs mostly in country adopting automation while keeping jobs in their nations (Japan is slowly bleeding to death money wise, while Germany did well until Russia turned off their lights)

In the coming decades you'll see up to 90% of all jobs be replaced or heavily impacted by automation, they've been saying this for years, but ppl forget about it until it blows up in their faces like this ai thing on /ic/.
It's unlikely any single working artist lost their job from ai art so far, but it has literally only been 2 months since this came out.

When I was a kid, ~2000, there was annual phonebook sized sourcebooks, where illustrators took out ads for editors to look over who to hire for their illustrative needs, that doesn't exist anymore, everything is Photoshoped stock-art now, let alone anything being printed.
Who can say what will happen in the future?

>> No.6389776

>>6389724
>you are scared YOU will lose your (future) job, though understandable, it still an opinion, I'm sure you cried tears too when bank tellers got replaced with ATMs
Ah yes, the help is here again, bringing up jobs/money out of nowhere. You'd better get to bed wagie, you have to be up for work in the morning~

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>>6389776
Of course, it's not the thought of their furry coombucks drying up, it's the vital abstract conception of soul and meaning of humanity that is driving anons foaming crazy, of course.

>> No.6389789

>>6385844
It's the equivalent of tracing 3D dummies to avoid learning anatomy

>> No.6389792

>>6389782
You really are a dyed in the wool wagie.

>> No.6389794

>>6389771
I believe AI and single task robots in general will assume most jobs in the next 20 or 30 years.

This atrocity will lead to mass unemployment, because unlike those that says “new jobs will appear as new tech are released”, most of these techs will be autonomous and any new job created will also be automated because this is an endless cycle.

>> No.6389795

>>6389789
eh... that's a lazy artfag at least, prompters really don't care about art or learning it, I've seen them render out 200 more images to get good RNG on the hands rather than taking few minutes to fix it in photoshop, I've even link them paint.net and showed them how, they don't care

it's a different mindset, if ai development is slow enough, a new culture will arise like photographers...

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6389799

If people were willing to flip the switch on the Trinity tests, they're definitely going to flip the switch on AI. We just gotta hope it's for the best at the end of the day.

>> No.6389801

>>6389799
>Trinity tests
que?
nukes?

>> No.6389811

>>6389794
This is when someone will mention UBI and a few other will mock him.

Let's just say, get used to living with yer moms... haha

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