/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6385705]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6382062

[Anonymous No.6385710]

i made a character i kind of like now i need to come up with fitting background drawings for them

[Anonymous No.6385712]

I tried to draw something cute instead of being edgy, did it work?

[Anonymous No.6385720]

Here's my latest anime woman drawing, I would appreciate any kind of feedback but stuff relating to color/shading would be super awesome thank u

[Anonymous No.6385727]

Aesthetically I find these cute, however
>>6385710
beg
>>6385712
high beg
>>6385720
int

[Anonymous No.6385730]

>>6385705
Who the fuck cares if it's above 1000 pixels why is that even a thing.
>NOOOO THE PIC WAS LARGER THAN I THOUGHT INITIALLY
BOOO FUCKING HOO NIGGA BOOO HOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6385732]

>>6385705
Is 18 years old (in college) too late to get good

[Anonymous No.6385735]

>>6385732
not at all

[Anonymous No.6385739]

>>6385732
yeah you're fucked the cut off is 17

[Anonymous No.6385740]

>>6385712
Idk, but some contrast to the eyes, pupils/highlights might help.

[Anonymous No.6385742]

>>6385732
yes it's when neuroplasticity starts. Although you have until six years before the gate finally closes and you will be stuck here forever.

[Anonymous No.6385743]

>>6385710
mental asylum

>>6385712
I think your coloring and rendering are pretty damn kino, easily entering into /int/ territory however i'm not convinced by the face.
She's looking straight on yet her facial features are all skewed to the right, her ears feel a bit too big, her mouth looks to be way too up and isn't making a particularly "cute" gesture (imo, only upper row of teeth + tongue, or only tongue visible are most appealing) and her eyes have this very "3d" clay like feeling because of your lineart and flat colours there, you should look up some reference for drawing lively-er eyes.

[Anonymous No.6385746]

>>6385743
(meant skewed to the left sorrry)

[Anonymous No.6385747]

>>6385730
just resize it to a 1000 nigga you're not being oppressed here

[Anonymous No.6385753]

Did this one with a fountain pen during a zoom meeting at uni, got bored and started doodling. Do you ever feel like your skill level just plateaued real early?
I feel like I've always been drawing at a similar level throughout life, it doesn't seem to have improved much since I was a little kid. Anyone got any resources or recommendations on where one could learn to improve their art? Never did get much chance to paint, always something I've wanted to try and get good at and now I feel I have the time on my hands to give it a go.

[Anonymous No.6385757]

>>6385753
Start doing studies bro, by far the fastest way to learn is to just copy and understand someone that knows his shit.
Nice desert-revolver-eagle thing btw

[Anonymous No.6385759]

>>6385753
Regarding your artwork, it's hard to tell what is a part of the character and what is shading/patterns. Using thicker lines around important parts (like hands and the area where the shirt is tucked into the pants) will help with that. Also study up on anatomy, but there's always room to improve with anatomy.

Painting is a great way to get better! I've found that focusing on painting also makes your other art better too, so there's really nothing to lose.

[Anonymous No.6385762]

Is it more beneficial to polish turds until they're decent or to move onto something else and focus on quantity?

[Anonymous No.6385766]

>>6385762
Polish turds. U ever seen anyone make it with half finished sketches or floating anime heads?

[Anonymous No.6385769]

how to render not too smooth? it kinda looks ai-ed so i kinda hate it

[Anonymous No.6385781]

>>6385762
I say pick your battles, somethings are worth polishing, some aren't, that's it.

[Anonymous No.6385783]

>>6385769
Use more hard edges

[Anonymous No.6385788]

>>6385766
fait point
>>6385781
Also fair. I'll tough it out this time though.
thanks fellers.

[Anonymous No.6385796]

[Anonymous No.6385805]

>>6385796
I choose to believe there are people that actually draw a whole ass skeleton and muscle groups when they do construction

[Anonymous No.6385809]

2-3 minute concept scribble for my next drawing

[Anonymous No.6385818]

>>6385732
underaged b&

[Anonymous No.6385823]

Crit me i struggle hard

[Anonymous No.6385825]

no matter how much you improve you will always be /beg/

[Anonymous No.6385828]

>>6385743
>>6385740
I'm guessing face is the main issue? Will fix it later today if I have the time. It's lunchtime rn where I live

[Anonymous No.6385829]

Nice try Kyle Reese, your handsome words may be true, but I will now draw you later.....

[Anonymous No.6385852]

>>6385730
We were supposed to resize shit? I don't read

[Anonymous No.6385855]

>>6385769
>>6385783
his edges arent bad. he needs to use a different brush. either hes using airbrush, smooth tool, or blending the hell out of a round.

[Anonymous No.6385857]

crit pls

[Anonymous No.6385859]

>>6385823
You're not giving us a whole lot to work here anon, anatomy is "eh", coloring/rendering/gesture/lineart is non-existent and so on, gives us something you've spent relatively long on.

[Anonymous No.6385875]

>>6385859
I was looking for critique of that specific pic.
>Coloring/rendering is non-existent
Uh, yes and?
>Gesture/lineart is non-existent
Sorry anon but it seems like you trolling or simply don't know what you talk about.

[Anonymous No.6385877]

>>6385875
It's called hyperbole.

[Anonymous No.6385878]

>>6385857
Can't put my finger on it but it's something about the upper nose bridge.

[Anonymous No.6385883]

I'm thinking about starting drawing again after seeing all of the news and drama around machine learning art generation
What's the 2022 recommended starter book now? Is it still Loomis? Which one?
Do you need to work on how to see things btw?
I find I can't really see things and can't translate those into drawings
For example I'm drawing a face, I've got the rough position of the ears down and the outline of the head but then I realise I've drawn the face at the wrong scale to the head and also it's not in the right position
Does this just come naturally?

[Anonymous No.6385886]

>>6385883
what's the point if ur gonna quit in like a month

[Anonymous No.6385888]

>>6385886
What the hell is that response supposed to mean?
Like you are correct in all likelihood but why reply to me like that?

[Anonymous No.6385896]

Yall niggas don't even smoke crack

[Anonymous No.6385901]

>>6385888
It seem like ur here to talk about ai rather than drawing.
To answer your questions. Nothing has changed with the books.
Yes you have to work on seeing things and yes some people have better visual perceptions of things. But drawing is a trainable skill.

[Anonymous No.6385915]

WIP. bro is skating down a surreal highway. gonna add hands and eyes in places they shouldn’t be!!!!111

[Anonymous No.6385918]

>>6385883
i don’t know how to tell you this in a way that you’ll get it but… you have to do hundreds of drawings to see progress. you have to stop thinking every drawing you make will even be partially passable.

but you have to power through. you have to learn to enjoy the process. you have to make a hundred toddler tier drawings just to start to see progress and get that dopamine. your brain will naturally begin to learn it all

[Anonymous No.6385922]

>>6385769
I'd up the contrast for more FORM FEEEL, but that's just my preference

[Anonymous No.6385938]

>>6385901
What?
I mentioned AI once, I have no interest in discussing it
>>6385918
Yeah that's fine
Last time I tried I did about a hundred sketches with about 10 completed and most of them being mostly placing features on shapes
Didn't notice any progress at all
I drew throughout my childhood and early teens and didn't notice any progress
I am primarily afraid of practising badly and not progressing after a decade of drawing

[Anonymous No.6385939]

>>6385857
post the ref along side next time, my lovely anon

[Anonymous No.6385940]

I just started drawing this year.
It's fun.

[Anonymous No.6385947]

>>6385857
>>6385939
I'm focused more so on capturing the likeness (planes, features, structure) than a 1:1 recreation of the photo. End goal is to draw anime stuff.

[Anonymous No.6385949]

>>6385940
No it isn't

[Anonymous No.6385965]

>>6385947
you're pushing the brow and forehead too much out and the chin/jaw/lips/nose too far in.

[Anonymous No.6385967]

Anyone know how I can git gud at spray paint art/graffiti art? Any sort of guides out there to get started?

[Anonymous No.6385977]

>>6385967
Get to know the crews in you area unironically if there are any good ones.
If not available, the ones hired to do any decent work on authorised property will have a way to be contacted by the property owner who commissioned them.

So you just walk in and ask.

[Anonymous No.6385982]

Painted something.

[Anonymous No.6385997]

I'm a beginner and all I can think is that I wish I could throw money at the skill problem and make it go away

[Anonymous No.6386004]

>>6385982
do the face, push your values even harder. try using hard edges only and not smudge and blur around as much as well.

[Anonymous No.6386006]

>>6385982
one more thing, include some background value color as well.

[Anonymous No.6386017]

>>6385982
I'm so lonely, bros...

[Anonymous No.6386019]

>>6385965
I see what you mean.

How come I didn't notice that? is there a rule of thumb to figure this out or a "drawing sense" I need to develop

[Anonymous No.6386026]

>>6386019
Just practice and copy more. Observe a lot

[Anonymous No.6386045]

Anyone know of a guide of drawing bimbo makeup for anime style

[Anonymous No.6386046]

gif

[Anonymous No.6386048]

[Anonymous No.6386058]

>>6386046
Really nice man.
>>6386045
Look up women of instagram kek.
>>6385922
This.
>>6385769
It’s all the same tone. The darkest dark you have is her panties.
https://files.catbox.moe/bdqb3x.MOV

[Anonymous No.6386063]

>>6385805
I start my construction as a fetus

[Anonymous No.6386083]

>>6386048
check your face angles , your eyes are slightly janked among other things. also try to straighten out your hatching or diliberately follow the form.. you don't want it to hook at the end like that.

[Anonymous No.6386093]

burp

[Anonymous No.6386095]

>>6386093
could end up cute, work on your legs and hip connections. and maybe make the left eye a little bigger (or more squinty your choice for drunk effect) and check your shoulders some.

[Anonymous No.6386105]

Can you guys tell me what to draw so that I can get good?

[Anonymous No.6386109]

>>6386105
unironically boxes (with other fundies)
copy artists you like, do master studies (trying to make something as much like an original whatever artists name here)
reading the sticky.

[Anonymous No.6386111]

>>6386109
Ok I'll read the sticky, I didn't see it sorry

[Anonymous No.6386114]

>>6386111
no problem anon.
good luck and post work in the future.

[Anonymous No.6386123]

>Some shit I’ve been working on, should the left eye be moved out a little?

>>6385720
I would do some white/ almost white highlights for the hair. Also include more of the shirt logos colours, maybe instead of plain grey pants and socks.
>>6385753
Right arm too far out, hair highlights too uniform. I feel like this style could use more black shading and obvious thicker lines to define clothes etc. How long have you been drawing?
>>6385915
EPIC ANON!!1!

[Anonymous No.6386130]

>>6385624
Wow you just made my day!
>can't say i'm happy with the face but here's my take on it.
Definitly some thing you've done better than me!
Eyes are a bit far apart but I like the hair especially
>seing your work kind of made me want to acquire this style too at some point, haha.
I'll make my own thread tomorrow detailing the progress after three months and what I've learned from it. I'll also post where I got refernces from.
Also, saved.

[Anonymous No.6386171]

[Anonymous No.6386173]

>>6385712
yay marcy chad is back

[Anonymous No.6386244]

>>6385710
Sovl


>>6385857

With lips, less is always more


Doodles, trying to lose myfear of colours

[Anonymous No.6386286]

It’s been chewing all the old books

[Anonymous No.6386287]

How can I add shape appeal or shape design to my heads and figures? Also wtf does that even mean?

[Anonymous No.6386288]

im gonna make a shitty quick drawin to get my headd in a bettar less degenerete place

[Anonymous No.6386296]

Advice pls? Left /fag/ because some nig is spamming tranny neovaginas over some furry dyke porno.

[Anonymous No.6386306]

Why in anime shadow is blue? Can someone spoon feed me?

[Anonymous No.6386321]

Plant beg here, should I color my drawings or leave them as B&W?

[Anonymous No.6386339]

is it normal to TROLL when you draw? for instance this is a joke drawing.

[Anonymous No.6386367]

>>6386339
Where is joke?

[Anonymous No.6386371]

>>6386339
stop coping

[Anonymous No.6386405]

Had fun drawing my oc (1/2)

[Anonymous No.6386410]

>>6386405

[Anonymous No.6386438]

>>6386367
not literal joke but you just do random stuff without caring much about the outcome. now looking at it its kinda cool so its more serious

[Anonymous No.6386453]

What's wrong with her face? please help, been staring for too long

[Anonymous No.6386456]

>>6385712
I really like it, but the colored lines in the highlights o her thighs make it look as if she's cutting herself

[Anonymous No.6386458]

>>6386453
. _ '

[Anonymous No.6386462]

>>6385720
i Like the hair coloring, there really need to be a background. Cause her position is very unnatural

[Anonymous No.6386464]

>>6386453
>>6386458
anons right. good painting, but check your alignments

[Anonymous No.6386469]

>>6386458
>>6386464
THANK YOU

[Anonymous No.6386475]

>>6385705
Am I blind?

[Anonymous No.6386476]

>>6386475
first you actually made him look like a rugged pirate which is cool

most importantly your values are good which is what you was going for

[Anonymous No.6386480]

>>6386475
top is pure kino

angle of the mouth looks a little off but love it overall

bottom cant tell why it doesnt quite look right. seems like the face maybe got a little too flattened

[Anonymous No.6386482]

>>6386475
These look great, the pirate is dope. Only thing bothering me is the green/yellow shadows you used on her even though her shadows are so warm

[Anonymous No.6386485]

>>6386453
face alignment better?

[Anonymous No.6386491]

>>6386453
protip mirror your canvas every few minutes to keep your drawings more symmetrical

[Anonymous No.6386492]

>>6386321
watercolor

[Anonymous No.6386495]

>>6386485
>>6386485
mouth is a little tilted IMO

[Anonymous No.6386500]

>>6385732
fuck no
t. started getting good at 19 in college
I mostly draw lewd stuff but I try shift more to sfw/pure stuff nowadays

[Anonymous No.6386502]

Best way to learn/draw hands?

[Anonymous No.6386514]

>>6386502
Practicing

[Anonymous No.6386532]

why do i eventually hate everything i make

[Anonymous No.6386542]

>>6386532
Because you're too critical of it, you're allowed to make bad work! Keep practising, keep drawing for the sake of drawing and just make sure you're not just drawing to get better

[Anonymous No.6386544]

Opening up Photoshop after a long while.
I make a new layer, draw on it, hide the layer and the drawing disappears (so it's on that layer).

My eraser does not work on that drawing/layer. But if I select "Background Eraser Tool" it does. What gives?

[Anonymous No.6386566]

>>6385705
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
>https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
None of this shit copied and pasted from wikipedia is going to be of any use to a beginner. People are wanting to learn to draw, not pass a written test

[Anonymous No.6386577]

>>6386492

I don't like watercolors, they are messy

[Anonymous No.6386583]

how would i make the values more realistic

[Anonymous No.6386589]

>>6386485
did i do okay? lips /face are okay now?

[Anonymous No.6386595]

>>6386577
It only messy if you use complicated techniques. You can just layering like marker.

[Anonymous No.6386599]

>>6386544
>"Background Eraser Tool"
Gee I wonder why.

[Anonymous No.6386625]

>>6386599
Yes, I don't understand why the normal eraser doesn't work on a drawing I'm clearly working in another layer with.

[Anonymous No.6386659]

what should i correct before i start painting?

[Anonymous No.6386683]

>>6386130
looking forward to it! most of my references for the style are just random search result images for the banner saga...

[Anonymous No.6386694]

>>6386659
everything

[Anonymous No.6386699]

>>6386694
very helpful

[Anonymous No.6386700]

>>6386659

[Anonymous No.6386704]

>>6386700
>>6386694
Thank you

[Anonymous No.6386706]

>>6386700
yeah, it's definitely the other way round

[Anonymous No.6386707]

>>6386704
I MADE SOME CORRECTIONS

TO GO THROUGH EM

>SEE DISTANCE BETWEEN MOUTH AND NOSE, IN YOUR DRAWING ITS TOO LONG. ITS SO CLOSE IN THE SCULPTURE BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT THE STATUE FROM THE TOP, SO THE THINGS FURTHER AWAY FROM US WILL APPEAR CLOSER TO EACH OTHER

>2. NOTICE THE TILT OF THE MOUTH AND CHIN. SEE HOW IT GOES DOWN (PIC REL DREW A LINE) IF YOUVE DONE LOOMIS THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE DIRECTION THE GUY IS FACING SEE BOX I MADE

ALL THE POINTS IN THE FACE SHOULD BE RELATIVE TO THOSE GUIDING LINES. SEE HOW I LOWERED THE RIGHT EYE, IN YOUR PICTURE IT'S HIGHER

3. NOTICE THJE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NOSE AND LEFT CHEEK(ONE WITHOUT EAR SHOWING), ITS FAR LONGER IN YOUR DRAWING. YOUR NOT CAPTURING THE FACT THAT HE'S MOVING HIS HED TO THE LEFT ENOUGH, AT WHICH CASE HIS NOSE WOULD APPEAR CLOSER TO THE LEFT CHEEK (AND SO WOULD THE MOUTH WHICH I ALSO DISPLACED.

THATS ABOUT IT GOOD LUCK KIDDO

[Anonymous No.6386733]

>>6386589
Erase that nose and her right brow (left from the viewer), flip the canvas vertically, start over.

[Anonymous No.6386745]

>>6386171
cute

[Anonymous No.6386752]

>>6386733

Tried to clean it with my mouse, don't want to work on it anymore for now. Hope it's, better, thanks

[Anonymous No.6386759]

>>6386752
The nose is still pointing at the viewer

[Anonymous No.6386764]

>>6386759
This is the reference, i'm honestly having a hard time seeing how the nose should be different

[Anonymous No.6386775]

>>6386764

In the reference the bulb and the nose are higher off the face. Closer to a triangle than a J like in your image.

We also see way too much of the right nostril rather than a small plane of it, this is what makes the perspective look fucked. It looks like the nose is facing us since we see almost equivalent amounts of both nostrils

Also look where her mouth ends

[Anonymous No.6386778]

>>6386775
thank you, i see it now

[Anonymous No.6386791]

[Anonymous No.6386795]

>>6386791
way too long head, legs are different thiccness, shoulder and neck connect weird

[Anonymous No.6386811]

>>6385730
Based Non Compliant Chad

[Anonymous No.6386827]

more sketches and fkey studies

[Anonymous No.6386832]

>>6385705
Why do people chimp out when they notice you're using a textured brush or anything that isn't the hard round brush? I was asking for feedback in a group I'm in and this guy just ignored everything and went straight for the type of brush I was using (which isn't very fancy...it's supposed to mimic pencils)

[Anonymous No.6386837]

>>6386832
I have 2 theories babe:
1. they think your lack of skill is making you use gimmicks instead of texturizing urself
>2. they think it takes away from immersion
3. they think since all textures are the same if different ppl use them it sorta makes ur work generic

ARE THESE CRITICISMS TRUE? maybe maybe not YOU decide brother ONLY YOU CAN DECIDE AHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6386838]

>>6386832
autism

to subvert that kind of autism when asking for crit, make sure to ask specific questions. like "how is my anatomy", "is your eye being drawn to the focus"? etc

[Anonymous No.6386840]

How do I become a freehand ellipse chad? Doing pages of ellipses in my sketchbooks have only gotten me so far.

[Anonymous No.6386845]

>>6386840
draw the ellipses from your shoulder. ghost it 3 times before drawing.

do teh drawabox ellipses exercises

[Anonymous No.6386850]

first time ever in digital

[Anonymous No.6386851]

>>6386832
its a "/beg/ artist hears some advice and takes it as gospel and comes after others who don't follow it as ifs the word of god" episode.

You should ignore him. IRL painters use texture brushes too, imagine if some trad /beg/ was screaming at everyone for not using the basic standard brush for every painting kek.

[Anonymous No.6386853]

>>6386845
>drawabox

[Anonymous No.6386855]

>>6386838
I tried but he just started saying vague things and didn't elaborate.
Finding a good community for feedback is stupidly hard

[Anonymous No.6386858]

>>6386853
>he didn't have the discipline to complete any of the lessons

[Anonymous No.6386881]

another day, another bunch of bridgman nonsense

[Anonymous No.6386883]

>>6386881
part 2

[Anonymous No.6386886]

[Anonymous No.6386891]

crits please

[Anonymous No.6386893]

>>6386886

[Anonymous No.6386913]

Did anyone start drawing past the age of 21? I feel like this is very much a "mid teens" skill like music that you just can't connect new neurons for at like 25, 30 or beyond.

[Anonymous No.6386945]

>>6386913
Give up anon, humans can't learn anything new after 18

[Anonymous No.6386974]

>>6386913
Drawing is literally just memorization. If you can remember someone's birthday you can learn to draw.

[Anonymous No.6386975]

>>6386945
You joke but this is pretty much correct. I mean maybe not 18 but really you only have like 5 years left to get good at stuff by that age. Past 23/24 all you can really do is mimic and maybe get to "journeyman" levels of proficiency with diminishing returns to about 31 when learning just stops completely.

[Anonymous No.6386993]

>>6386913
I started at 23 and only recently started learning vehicle design. The people saying you'll never be good are just demoralizing you out of spite. Everyone gets good eventually, the thing you actually need to work on is generating ideas and being creative – which I'll admit isn't really intuitive for most people.

[Anonymous No.6387006]

>>6386913
I started drawing (digitally) after age 25, a couple years ago - didn't practice enough to actually get good but I definitely improved very dramatically, drawing like 2 hrs a week (on average) for two years.
I'm still not actually good, but there was a massive improvement, my brain was definitely connecting new neurons.
Dexterity and speed with a tablet increased a lot, sense of form, knowledge of anatomy and perspective somewhat despite limited study.
Basically it's possible at least to go from /prebeg/ to mid-/beg/, so that anons in /v/ drawthreads could appreciate my art and think I'm an artist
>inb4pyw
no too embarrassing but it was way worse before

[Anonymous No.6387054]

Hello beg, drawing heads is always cool, even if its cow head

>>6386891
The only nitpick i can identify is the part of nose where bottom sides (with nostrils) connects to top (rest of the nose). It makes it look weird, like that there is distinct sharp edge, that her nose curves are sharp. Otherwise its very good and soulful
>>6386886
i like it. The way how you drew the background in very simple yet somewhat nice way is inspiring
>>6386840
First realize that ellipses are just circles in perspective. Then learn how to properly draw cubes in perspective. Then draw ellipse into every side of the cubes. Then draw 999999 ellipses.
>>6386583
First step towards "realism" is drawing background which tells you what the lighting conditions are, what sort of color reflected light has and so on. Nobody and nothing exists in a vacuum
>>6386532
because unlike the drawing skill (which starts at zero), our taste skill is heavily leveled up by long exposure to good art we saw during our lives. This is why small children are so mega proud of their scribbles (because they didnt saw anything better than simpsons).
>>6386502
look at your own fucking hand. then draw what you see (from the reference)
>>6386405
saved for later study. very nice and soulful
>>6386321
rendering takes a lot of time and honestly begs are better off drawing 5 pictures of shrooms than rendering 1 picture of shroom. You know, to prevent polishing the turd
>>6386306
PYA (post your anime)
>>6386286
i love the mouse
>>6385883
Observation > perspective > anatomy / construction
The book for observation is KeysToDrawing. Consult sticky for the rest. Yes, observation skill goes up with repeated drawing effort

[Anonymous No.6387063]

she looks good in orange

[Anonymous No.6387081]

Weird sort of progress. After taking a break for a while and going back to drawing, I'm finding my drawing women from imagination is just as shitty as it was (maybe marginally better) but I'm doing it faster.
I suppose I could try drawing slower and maybe I'll do better?
Anyway, I did this in a 90 minute time period, but I wasn't drawing the whole time. The drawing part was done in maybe fifteen minutes tops.
So now I can create bad /beg/ art faster?

[Anonymous No.6387093]

>>6386706
>1 hour to learn to draw
That's pretty impressive gains ngl

[Anonymous No.6387105]

>>6387054
HAS YOUR PRACTICE ON TAPESTRY HELPD YOU CREATE IT FROM IMAGINATION I ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH TAPESTRY OR FABRIC FROM IMAGINATION

[Anonymous No.6387128]

>>6385982
A darker hue of blue in the shading is gonna help out tons. As it stands now everything has a predominantly red undertone

[Anonymous No.6387197]

>>6387054
rendering takes a lot of time and honestly begs are better off drawing 5 pictures of shrooms than rendering 1 picture of shroom. You know, to prevent polishing the turd

What do you mean exactly by 'rendering'? Does that include adding shadows? Should I wait until my sketches are decent before studying color theory?

[Anonymous No.6387204]

>>6386913
>>6386975
>mfw "muh nEuROplAsTiciTY"

[Anonymous No.6387230]

I don't know If I should pick the green silhouette, the red one taking the shoulders as reference or make another one that has bigger shoulders to adapt better to the blue part.
What should I do to have a good figure with big shoulders and a hump?

[Anonymous No.6387249]

[Anonymous No.6387252]

>>6387204
You should have drawn a more accurate obese ngmi neckbeard pajeet

[Anonymous No.6387262]

>>6387252
What a sad timeline

[Anonymous No.6387268]

coloring is ufun

[Anonymous No.6387270]

>>6387204
this looks nice

[Anonymous No.6387272]

>>6387054
>saved for later study. very nice and soulful

Noticed! Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6387286]

tfw no soul

[Anonymous No.6387304]

>>6385825
Still so far to go

[Anonymous No.6387314]

[Anonymous No.6387379]

can't... stop... symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.6387404]

[Anonymous No.6387412]

[Anonymous No.6387414]

[Anonymous No.6387441]

This is the most that I have ever rendered anything. This was mostly an exercise with color and shading. Thoughts please?

[Anonymous No.6387501]

eye is to bright

[Anonymous No.6387513]

some sketches i did yesterday

[Anonymous No.6387519]

How do I get better at drafting? Or more like drawing lines over my sketches/gestures? Whenever I try methods like doing several layers of rough drafts with more details each time, I feel like they get worse and worse.

[Anonymous No.6387528]

>>6387519
when i sketch i turn on pressure for opacity then when im done i lower the opacity a bit in the layers tab and do a cleaner sketch on a new layer

[Anonymous No.6387539]

the idea of a beginner and intermediate thread is really funny for this board because realistically that is 99% of everyone on this board

you can easily make money with high beg skills if you draw in a pleasing or unique style so really who is there to judge who is advanced ?

funny

[Anonymous No.6387551]

>>6387539
>He doesn't know about The Council
Lurk more.
>>6387513
>>6387528
Cute faces and good advice

[Anonymous No.6387555]

>>6387539
I think the idea is that all scribbles go into a single active thread instead of cluttering the board as a whole (save space for those AI, crabs, dramafaggot threads). /Int/ was probably added as a coup out for overconfident /beg/s, whereas they should really be separate.
That said, no real professionals have any reason to loiter here, so your best bet at critique are other anons learning at different stages.

[Anonymous No.6387558]

>>6387555
There's some pros but they don't post because it might hurt their careers

[Anonymous No.6387564]

>>6386475
The dude has a bit too large nose and his mouth is a bit off but as others said, he looks great.
Her face is too wide at mouth level, she looks kinda fat, also shading is too cold.

[Anonymous No.6387565]

>>6386881
>>6386883
Keep at it famalam, I can see you're improving
>>6387081
Just use construction at first it'll really help I promise.
>>6387304
A little late now but why is her face bigger than his?
Kinda throws off the masc fem vibe.
>>6387441
Is this a self insert?
Looks okay but kinda stiff.
Your linework is good especially the hands but the clothing needs work.
Also the right side of this jacket is one color no rendering which is weird.

[Anonymous No.6387571]

>>6387528
ref?

[Anonymous No.6387577]

>>6385710
>>6385712
>>6385720
>this shit is beg
just kill me.

[Anonymous No.6387580]

Small figure study over 2 days mostly for getting proportions right. Left to right, top to bottom. I think I really should just draw cylinders and stuff in different angels, connected with each other. Arms and legs are incredibly hard to get right.

[Anonymous No.6387599]

>>6387054
Thanks anon {>>6386891 here}

[Anonymous No.6387602]

>>6387571

[Anonymous No.6387616]

Can you please help me out

I'm trying to come up with a good composition for this, is this fine?
I did like a triangle composition (pink) and cut off part of the pics strategically, like the bubble on the top and the mushroom on the right.
I was also thinking of cutting off part of the girl from the frame but i feel ljke her not being cut off adds some contrast.
I also have some issues making her face the bubbles, and not really sure if the legs and perspective is correct, i tried wrapping lines around the form but still it feels off

Any help is appreciated. Thank you

[Anonymous No.6387618]

>>6387580
i like these, you did great on the gesture but i feel like it feels a bit too loose and they dont look connected at times from the gesture.
Some stuff like the feet and some hands look flat and dont match the rest of the body like the top left's shoe doesnt match the leg coming out

[Anonymous No.6387626]

f

[Anonymous No.6387635]

>>6387616
It's very difficult to help you when I don't know what you're going for. Mushrooms? Bubbles? What's the story? Is she scared, or in awe? Is she dwarfed by the environment? what's behind the circles you drew? Is it a forest?

One thing for certain I can tell you is that you may want to incorporate more overlaps with your shapes. You don't want everything pasted on the canvas like stickers

[Anonymous No.6387638]

>>6385705
Is the upper arm meant to be concealed? Should I show a bit of it.

[Anonymous No.6387645]

>>6387638
Depends on what it's supposed to be doing really.

[Anonymous No.6387646]

>>6387635
right, i was just picturing the mushroom in front making bubbles and she's sitting in awe at them, i was thinking of putting her outdoor near a forrest or something

I thought fewer things looked better so i didn't put that many bubbles but i guess ill put more overlaps, thanks

[Anonymous No.6387717]

The rocks turned out better than I expected, it's not great or anything but it's not bad. I blocked the major shadows in, as well as in the sea. Idk how to render sand, but the contrast with water should help the imagination fill in the gaps. I'm not happy with the shore at all, I wasnt sure what I was going for until after which is just one hatching line, from up left to down right. Blocking in the shadows by drawing the outer line first is helpful, but it's not always convenient like in the small shadows that go horizontal on the cliffs. In this case it's better to just go in by eye and hatch. There is no point basically because it's the big shapes and shadows that help geographically and mimic the likeness, while the smaller ones aren't as important and can be invented or moved without damaging the final result too much

[Anonymous No.6387725]

im having a real tough time with drawing because i dont know what to draw. id be in the mood to draw, then stare at the blank white page and after 10 minutes of random scribbles id stop drawing.
for the last few months id go a week or two without drawing, get hit by inspiration and draw a picture, then stop for a week or two. i cant seem to force myself to come up with new ideas or just draw for the sake of drawing.
the only time i could remember that i had a real want to draw was when i wrote comics. then i knew what i had to draw because i was 'forced' to draw what the story needed. but i even stopped drawing comics because i passed that dunning kruger line and have realized just how shit i am (both story and art wise), so im not confident with any project.
when, once in a blue moon, i get inspired to draw, i progress nicely but i feel that if only i draw more i would be massively better.
do you guys just grab a random image and try to redraw it or how do you have ideas of what you want to draw

[Anonymous No.6387731]

>>6387577
I'd say the first one is beg and the other 2 are int or high beg

[Anonymous No.6387748]

I made a birb

[Anonymous No.6387758]

>>6387748
daddy LONG LEGS

[Anonymous No.6387760]

>>6387626
why is the tail so high

[Anonymous No.6387802]

>>6386881
ayy. fellow Bridgbro. I'm also doing this. I'm a little further ahead of you but I'm only spending about 30 mins a day on these so you'll probably pass by me soon enough.

Let's keep each other accountable and hopefully see some gains!

[Anonymous No.6387846]

>>6385705
other than the loomis head meme, what other resources do you anons reccomend? only thing i have completed is Keys to Drawing Bert Dodson which really clicked for me.

[Anonymous No.6387856]

>>6387846

[Anonymous No.6387858]

is it cute

[Anonymous No.6387859]

[Anonymous No.6387861]

>>6387856
That's not how foreshortening works.
>>6387858
Comfy

[Anonymous No.6387862]

>>6387856
kek

[Anonymous No.6387882]

Slow progress, more study required, but we're definitely making progress! I'm slowly stamping out the bad habit of drawing things larger than the reference.

[Anonymous No.6387897]

[Anonymous No.6387900]

>>6387897

[Anonymous No.6387918]

>>6387900
Neat! Those bloom effects look like fun.
Let's all love Lain.

[Anonymous No.6387926]

critique pls? thx (i'll draw more ears and post them later)

[Anonymous No.6387928]

>>6387926

[Anonymous No.6387929]

is learning to do 2d animation worth it, bros? When I watch the 80's animes I like I wonder how hard it could really be.

[Anonymous No.6387931]

>>6387926
>>6387928
Looks like an ear.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Your reference isn't very impressive. Do a hand or a head next time.

[Anonymous No.6387936]

>>6387931
alright, thabk you.
i'll return with more drawings.

[Anonymous No.6387937]

>>6387846
Michael Hampton is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6387945]

>>6387937
I will check it out

[Anonymous No.6387951]

>>6387618
Thanks, I will pay more attention to object drawing in general. Keeping both orientation of lines and proportions in mind at the same time is a big hurdle.
My gestures are pretty bad too since I always tend to start arms too high and hips too low, so have to fix it later anyway.

[Anonymous No.6387973]

is construction/loomis a bit of a meme?

[Anonymous No.6387989]

>>6387973
idk about Loomis but if you don't understand construction you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.6387992]

>>6387973
I'm not experienced at all but it seems like an easier way to make a lot of different forms once you get the hang of it, especially if you want to do this as a job or make a bunch of practice sketches more quickly. It's a lot easier for a car factory to have machines that make parts and put them together in different ways than it is to have a big machine for each individual car.

[Anonymous No.6388060]

[Anonymous No.6388082]

>>6387645
Didn't expect such a fast reply

[Anonymous No.6388096]

Any advice on selling the "two shapes merged" look? Specifically the terminator I draw between two shapes always looks to thick - like a wide crack or crease, but making it thinner also looks weird and undefining

[Anonymous No.6388101]

>>6388096
make sure the single shape on its own is okay first

[Anonymous No.6388106]

Whom'st, if anyone, do you follow on Twitter? Been drawing more lately and thought it would be useful to have a feed of cool people sharing cool art or instructionals. I don't really have socials right now.

I typed that out and quickly realized the scope of the question is about 50 miles wide but I'll leave it. All the ideas I have of "people to follow" are people who wrote books I've read/are reading: Peter Han, Scott Robertson, the guy from Drawabox.

[Anonymous No.6388112]

>>6388082
>>6387638
Yeah, ok if that's what he's supposed to be doing I'd do it like this.
Also is the cape suppose to be wider than normal with shoulderpads?

[Anonymous No.6388115]

>>6388106
Maybe start here >>6349581 ?
I'm not in there if you're wondering and I'm not on social media.

[Anonymous No.6388119]

>>6388106
I'm following like 1000, once you follow a few that you like the work of, you'll get suggestions

[Anonymous No.6388128]

I literally only want to draw handsome men rescuing chained-up naked women.

[Anonymous No.6388132]

>>6387565
No it’s Gore from Gungore Grave
And yeah the clothing especially the shirt could use some polish. It was a Rush job because I was trying to finish it by release of the game which was yesterday. I gotta finish that part of the jacket I was feeling lazy and actually sick of looking at it
Here’s my reference

[Anonymous No.6388136]

>>6388101
alright, now done with a grid

[Anonymous No.6388180]

>>6388112
He's meant to have a mogger frame but I tried loosening the cape because it does look stiff

[Anonymous No.6388181]

>>6388136
draw a cast shadow on the larger box, I think it will help to sell the placement of the small box

[Anonymous No.6388219]

>>6388096

[Anonymous No.6388233]

>>6386700
That nigga spittin fr fr no cap on jah straight bussin

[Anonymous No.6388240]

>>6388181
I'm not good at rendering but alright, I think it helps somewhat
usually I draw everything as lineart with only lineweight as the shadows, so I was sort of hoping to avoid painting
I think I'm gonna see what my nipponese masters do in their doujins and leave it at that
>>6388219
I thought about that, but I think it looks too indecisive
there clearly is a defined edge there so it seems odd not to draw it at all

thanks 4 the help

[Anonymous No.6388243]

>>6388240
>there clearly is a defined edge there so it seems odd not to draw it at all

with line art, sometimes less is more

[Anonymous No.6388262]

Where do I find a master? How do I approach someone to apprentice under?

[Anonymous No.6388278]

>>6386405
>>6386410
>>6387272
Glad you're still going anon. Keep it up, and don't forget to focus on proporitons too.

[Anonymous No.6388283]

>>6388240
you drew the edge of the cast shadow from the wrong corner of the box

[Anonymous No.6388293]

>>6388283
damn you're right
guess it's bed time

[Anonymous No.6388317]

just started bridgman after a month of drawing and getting filtered hard by a guy standing when viewed from a low angle since the drawing is reference fairly finished and my pea brain is fucking up proportions when trying to deconstruct the guy into boxes. also it's day 1 of me working through this book and i hate knees so fucking much already

[Anonymous No.6388321]

>>6388317
you probably shouldn't be tackling bridgman after only a month of drawing

[Anonymous No.6388326]

>>6388321
when do i start it then? i'm going through the sticky which seemed to go
>studies of increasingly complex subjects (i did rocks -> dead trees -> animal skulls then some landscapes)
>perspective and construction practice with draw a box
>now bridgman

[Anonymous No.6388340]

thoughts on this tranime shit

[Anonymous No.6388348]

>>6388326
I am also a month into drawing and am still trying to wrap my head around spatial reasoning via drawabox. I piddle around with assignments from YA "how to draw" books that I morph into my own prompts to get pencil time outside of the DaB stuff but yeah no at least for me (and can probably be said of other newbies) there's no way I could tackle Bridgman. I know because I similarly purchased some Bridgman books and was like "ya no where is the ABSOLUTE start of accurate drawing?" Could probably sub in Keys to Drawing for DaB, I intend on gitting gud with what I have and then reading either Dodson or Loomis' books. Bridgman is clearly way down the line.

[Anonymous No.6388351]

Probably not the thread for it but opinions on running bluestacks to get the zlib apk running and get those sweet sweet textbooks for free again? Used to snag all kinds of shit for my kindle but ya know. Is there an easier way?

[Anonymous No.6388361]

>>6388340
she’s just as tall as the telephone poles

[Anonymous No.6388373]

>>6388340
perspective on the poles is off. they should be converging to the same vanishing point as the road

[Anonymous No.6388376]

>>6388340
symbol drawn to hell and back
mosin looks alright though, i hope you didn't trace that

[Anonymous No.6388409]

>>6388361
>>6388373
Is this better? Thanks for the tip, should've drafted the perspective lines first.
>>6388376
What gives away the symbol drawism the most? Also yeah drawn using reference.

[Anonymous No.6388417]

>>6388409
>What gives away the symbol drawism the most?
flat with no regard to 3d reasoning (yet) imo

[Anonymous No.6388424]

>>6388417
yeah, perhaps it won't be as bad after I color it in and add shading

[Anonymous No.6388425]

what can i improve in my shading? i really like yuming lee stuff and want to do something similar :]

[Anonymous No.6388440]

trying something quick

[Anonymous No.6388452]

>>6388425
Beg here but when i squint my eyes the butt shadow shape isn't the same and some colors are either too light or too dark compared to the ref

[Anonymous No.6388463]

>>6388425
if you're going for limited shades, I'd really focus on each value and the shape it makes to define the form

[Anonymous No.6388468]

[Anonymous No.6388478]

>>6388468
sovl

[Anonymous No.6388479]

>>6388468
!?!

[Anonymous No.6388480]

>>6388468
oh fuck, is this real?

[Anonymous No.6388484]

>>6388463
Damn, i really liked your values. Thanks for the advice, anon

[Anonymous No.6388491]

I dont get how to create highlights in any other color than white
It just never looks like light, it always looks like a stain. Im trying to paint a character sitting by a fireplace and I cant figure out how to make the warm, orange light not look like a stain
Help? I have no idea, I've been sitting down for an hour trying to make it look right.

[Anonymous No.6388532]

>>6388468
been staring at the pencil strokes on the sleeves about the hem and trying to figure out why they have soul but my attempts at similar, seemingly-wild strokes never turn out the same way

[Anonymous No.6388574]

When are you supposed to change out your pen nibs? Mine keep getting sharp on the side and I think it's because I have a heavy hand but not sure.

[Anonymous No.6388583]

>>6387859
not how boobs work on the human

[Anonymous No.6388589]

How do I get from the tracing paper back onto the real paper?

[Anonymous No.6388592]

>>6388589
trace the thing, the flip your tracing paper over and go back over your lines on the back side of the tracing paper.
Put your tracing paper onto your final paper and go back over the lines scribbling hard, your effectively pushing the lead from the back of the tracing paper onto your new paper

[Anonymous No.6388604]

>>6388278
>Glad you're still going anon
Hi anon thanks 4 noticing!, are you the bridg-chad anon?

[Anonymous No.6388655]

>>6388491
maybe post your work as well? I'd like to help

[Anonymous No.6388660]

>>6387846
stop drawing smile emoji and actually look and study her facial features

[Anonymous No.6388662]

Looking at yoaihime and robotpencil. Who are some of your favorite social media artists right now?

[Anonymous No.6388664]

>>6386707
It looks so much better.
Use measuring tools as much as possible - the more exact the measurements, the easier it is to shade

[Anonymous No.6388668]

>>6387856
>>6387846
>those eyes

[Anonymous No.6388675]

>>6388592
not him, but why not stop at just tracing it once. why push the lead onto a new paper? trace with vellum paper first then transfer?

[Anonymous No.6388676]

[Anonymous No.6388678]

>>6388468
prompt?

[Anonymous No.6388680]

>>6388660
better?

[Anonymous No.6388687]

[Anonymous No.6388691]

>>6388680
>anime eyes
>unzips pants
continue

[Anonymous No.6388695]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOW DO I CREATE A LAYER THAT HAS ONLY A SPECIFIC PART SELECTED IN CLIP STUDIO SO I CAN DRAW ONLY INSIDE THAT PART WHEN IM USING THAT LAYER, REFERENCE LAYER???? ANTIALIAS????? FILL BUCKET??? WHAT THE FUCKKK GOOGLE YOU PIECE OF SHIT

[Anonymous No.6388697]

>>6388695
Mask.

[Anonymous No.6388698]

>>6388695
Layer mask

[Anonymous No.6388701]

>>6388440
hot ass

[Anonymous No.6388702]

>>6388698
>>6388697
NO, I WANT TO LIKE SELECT A PORTION OF MY DRAWING WITH LASSO TOOL AND TELL THE LAYER THAT WHEN I FUCKING USE YOU I ONLY WANT TO DRAW WITHIN THAT SPACE

[Anonymous No.6388703]

>>6388702
>>6388698
>>6388697
nvm i just realized how to do it, thanks bros

[Anonymous No.6388704]

>>6388702
Layer mask
Faggit

[Anonymous No.6388708]

did some more with this
added head
someone suggested adding some blue to the shadows, i tried it, not sure good it looks
but i tried to smooth out some of the redness and get a more skin-coloured tone on it

[Anonymous No.6388711]

>>6388660
easier said than done anon
>>6388680
looks good anon, but doesn't look very asian imo
>>6388668
i am sorry

[Anonymous No.6388720]

[Anonymous No.6388727]

>>6388711
>easier said than done anon
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6388728]

>>6388583
but....but i like how they like look

[Anonymous No.6388732]

Today's bridgman

I was drunk for most of them so rip

[Anonymous No.6388733]

>>6388732

[Anonymous No.6388742]

made a small adjustment, going to stop for now, hope its going in the right direction

[Anonymous No.6388773]

I've drawn on and off for a long time, but this is the first year I've really buckled down and tried to improve myself. Before, I had a hard time getting myself to practice and study, I only wanted to draw for fun. But now it's the reverse - I'm having a hard time getting myself to draw just for fun or creatively. Wat do?

[Anonymous No.6388793]

>>6385705
Is this what cape physics look like?

[Anonymous No.6388804]

I draw with a mouse and have no idea what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.6388824]

how it looks?

[Anonymous No.6388838]

>>6388468
just needs the PIT VIPER logo on the glasses

[Anonymous No.6388857]

>>6388804
funny cute
>>6388824
lord jesus looks good

[Anonymous No.6388858]

>>6388742
not bad.
your face is to low and incomplete (but at first it wasnt there at all) and values could still be darker (this is because you have no background color value to accurately do the values) .
good attempts with the hard edges request i made. looks more clean when you have the correct shapes and this is a step to that..

next step would be to now attempt both hard and soft edges starting with the hard then softening what needs to be softened.
note on the left side shoulder those are hard edges but look soft on your image.
the right side of the image looks better than the left side as far as defined shapes.

[Anonymous No.6388863]

>>6388728
I do not mind them. Making more appealing human faces would be my crit on these. With the right kind of style this could be workable.

[Anonymous No.6388909]

I made some silly fanart, it was kinda fun. Could use some touching up but i don't feel like it

>>6388687
Nice crab, the left arm (our right) seems to fuse with the main body, maybe the shadow could be a bit darker to avoid that? Not sure though

[Anonymous No.6388945]

Does anyone remember the anon who posted a really good drawing of King Cold after like 6 months of drawing expierence from like 2 years ago? Does he have a twitter now or something or posted any updates since?

[Anonymous No.6388947]

>>6388804
Blog? This is really cute

[Anonymous No.6388990]

>>6386410
Blog?

[Anonymous No.6389031]

>>6388687
this looks insane

[Anonymous No.6389038]

>>6385705
Ok I started ""learning"" to draw a couple of months ago but I don't really learn anything, I just use anime pictures as references to make a new thing but it's really bad beg stuff obviously. Now I want to get serious, I want to learn how to do the entire sketching thing like it happens in the first part of webm related, because when I start drawing, I usually focus on one part of the drawing (like legs or face) and lose sight of all the proportions from the rest, unlike what real drawfags seem to do which is just sketch the entire thing and all.

I did a bit of draw a box but just the beginning, should I start it all over again or there's a better thing? My drawings are so beg that I'm not even worried now about learning coloring/rendering however you call it

[Anonymous No.6389052]

>>6389038
ultra beg here but I believe you have to practice gesture and figure drawing a lot for that.

[Anonymous No.6389054]

>>6388417
Added color and shading to the character. It looks less flat I guess but I have no idea what I'm doing so someone tell me if those shades suck and why

[Anonymous No.6389057]

>>6389038
Wanted to tell you to fuck off for not being a beg but then I read your whole post. Try grinding gesture drawing from time to time it does help, also don't be a perfectionst about your first sketches. I'm a beg too and I usually make 2-3 layers of sketches, slowly adding more details with each one. Use just straight lines for the first pass and "box in" the thing you want to draw.

Also just keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.6389067]

>>6389031
in a bad way?

[Anonymous No.6389117]

>>6389067
Yes? What did you think retard?

[Anonymous No.6389131]

>>6389117
i thought in a good way

[Anonymous No.6389132]

>>6388675
Dont get what your saying.

[Anonymous No.6389134]

>>6388687
Very nice, think you could have some darker darks though

[Anonymous No.6389169]

>>6389054
I don't see any shadows. Just always check preview, if you can't see the breakdown by light, then your tone needs rework.

[Anonymous No.6389177]

>>6389169
Just finished it but thanks for the tip. Should've added more darks ig. Also I was considering adding the reflected light from the snow but I didn't see many cel shaded artwork having it and I thought it would look weird with solid color shading.

[Anonymous No.6389188]

>>6388947
https://chaussettes.neocities.org/

[Anonymous No.6389204]

>>6389052
>>6389057
any good resource for it you would rec. im a total ultra beg

[Anonymous No.6389211]

Hello beg, from today the basic structure of schedule will be different.

>>6387105
DRAPERY IS VERY COMPLEX BUT THAT MEANS ERRORS ARE VERY HARD TO SPOT. JUST IDENTIFY HUBS AND THEN DRAW RANDOM TEARS OF CLOTH EMERGING FROM THEM
>>6387197
rendering shadows is part of the rendering process yes. But unlike colors you lowkey need shadows to show the form and you can be very fast if you just do ~3 values or use simple crosshatching
>>6389038
observation > perspective > anatomy / construction
keys to drawing, perspective made easy, any book from vilpu, hamptom and so on.
consult sticky for detailed instructions
>>6388804
upgrade from mouse to tablet, xppen are mega cheap, the bigger working area the better
>>6388773
draw and PYW
>>6388687
so this is the biggest enemy of /IC, the plague! nice
>>6388676
i sense COOM
>>6388574
i changed mine every 70 days after the nib is so short the stylus cannot draw under sharp angle anymore. consider using sand paper on sharp edges
>>6388317
you are reading INT book, start with BEG book ala keys to drawing
>>6387725
if you have no inspiration why not do master study?

[Anonymous No.6389247]

Man, the cross contour lines on my sonic make it look so much worse. How are these supposed to improve a drawing again?

[Anonymous No.6389392]

>>6388604
Yeah, been a while. Hope you've been keeping up ok with art

[Anonymous No.6389595]

>draw on a screen tab for 20 minutes
>sore fingers
>also still feels retarded compared to paper
I HATE THIS I HATE THIS

[Anonymous No.6389622]

damm, watercolor is kino. Make me wanna buy a sketchbook and some watercolor pencils and do it IRL.

[Anonymous No.6389780]

>engineer nerd
>learning about perspective
>all pictures contain 3 vanishing points although we can get ride of them in 2 point, 1 point, and 0 point perspective
>the removed vanishing points aren't really gone, we just imagine them being infinitely far away so lines pointed to these vanishing points just end up being parallel lines and not converging
>realize that the 3 vanishing points define a coordinate system
>vanishing points require a certain amount of space between them so that each quadruple of parallel lines on a cube remains 90 degrees apart from each other
>if the vanishing points aren't spaced properly, a cube appears deformed (despite still being a cube within the defined vanishing point coordinate system)
>this happens since we've defining a non-Euclidean space and are observing the non-Euclidean space from our own Euclidean space
one of those things that since i'm total math nerd i can completely conceptualise

[Anonymous No.6389885]

Why this looks flat?

[Anonymous No.6389937]

What's the best general drawing exercises that have helped you improve?

[Anonymous No.6389991]

>>6389885
I wouldn't say that it looks flat.
Issue is that left buttock is way bigger than right one and spine is rotated in very uncomfortable way.

[Anonymous No.6390014]

>>6389937
Master studies

[Anonymous No.6390268]

>>6386827
stop chicken scratching

[Anonymous No.6390295]

>>6390268
not him but why? from a beginner's perspective i presume because it'd the opposite of confident and builds a bad habit precluding a real "eye" for what you want to draw? i guess there's cases for an artist's "style" (similar to how leaving construction lines can kind of look cool) but i was wondering what the overall thought process was

[Anonymous No.6390297]

>>6390295
>not him but why?
cuz its looks like shit

[Anonymous No.6390307]

>>6390268
Lol you have no idea what are you talking about. Probably just beg who read about chicken scratching somewhere, stop giving advices please.

[Anonymous No.6390334]

ribbit!?!

[Anonymous No.6390477]

How do I make drawing a habit? I have such a hard time getting started and when I do, for lack of practice, my art sucks and I get discouraged. And I overthink what I 'should' draw, what will appeal to others, what I can show, what is 'correct' if that makes sense. I'm trapped in overthinking and end up just doing this, procrastinating by asking stupid questions and staring blankly at endless youtube tutorials.
I think wasting supplies is also an issue in my procrastination (though I've tried digital but didn't like it) I keep thinking I need the 'optimal' most perfect painting to maximize my supplies. I should accept that I'll paint bad things, and that they supplies are being wasted just collecting dust. Try to do what moebius wrote. (I think) and cleanse myself of deep feelings. I guess this also applies to overthinking and being overly critical of myself when I fail.

Any advice or input?

[Anonymous No.6390521]

>>6390477
>I'm trapped in overthinking and end up just doing this, procrastinating by asking stupid questions and staring blankly at endless youtube tutorials.
beginner here, this is me a lot of times with hobbies. i get so into learning about the hobby, trying to find every guide to see if i can learn a new piece of information, that i get burned out without even doing the activity. i knew i would do this with drawing so i forced myself to just draw and not read a bunch of text books. i even downloaded a bunch just to scratch the resource gathering itch knowing that i probably would never use them.
>my art sucks and I get discouraged. And I overthink what I 'should' draw, what will appeal to others, what I can show, what is 'correct' if that makes sense.
i followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU and his order of subjects to start drawing. he suggests starting out with stuff in nature. start with finding photos rocks and old dead trees and reproducing what you see in those photos. these things have imperfections so if you add any, it still looks like a tree or a rock whereas trying to start out drawing a photorealistic human face is begging for suffering and discouragement. the first few rocks i drew were terrible and out of proportion relative to the reference image (but still looked like rocks like pic related which was after a few weeks of drawing) but after a few days of drawing a rock a day, they started looking better as your hand and eyes improve. as you get more comfortable, you can slowly increase complexity of the pieces you are recreating

do a little each day so you don't get burned out at the beginning, you can always add more later if you feel the desire without forcing yourself to draw if you aren't having fun (unironically having fun is the biggest factor). drawing is a hobby not a job

[Anonymous No.6390661]

>>6390477
Do it or dont—you will regret both.

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[Anonymous No.6390721]

dumbstuff

[Anonymous No.6390751]

good place to take practice with my fellow begs that isn't /v/, /co/, /trash/, or /b/?

[Anonymous No.6390761]

>>6390751
here

[Anonymous No.6390765]

>>6390761
as I understand it, you cannot just post your OC and take requests here

[Anonymous No.6390816]

Man does perspective ever get easier? Mark making? I thought drawabox would get me some understanding and for sure this is only the second attempt but damn it's like I don't have eyes or even nerves in my shoulder or hands, i am ngmi. I am going to finish DaB for what it's worth but has anyone done an exercise or practiced with some book that "clicked" things into place for them? Many days of practice are ahead of me, but it should be good practice.

[Anonymous No.6390959]

>>6390816
your lines are very wavy. are you doing the ghosted lines technique?

https://youtu.be/dzGmoJanhbQ
https://youtu.be/LkJG6pKTuRc

[Anonymous No.6390962]

>>6389780
>Euclidean space
tf is that?

[Anonymous No.6390977]

>>6390959
Yeah, that's unfortunately with the ghosting method. I find that if I ghost, say, five times, there will be 3 odd ones and 2 perfect ones. I also think the wavy lines come from just not engaging the shoulder properly. I often think I'm hunched over the paper which is flat on a desk rather than angled properly, and that I get fatigued like 90, maybe 120 minutes into a project. Lots of experience to gain

[Anonymous No.6390998]

>>6390977
draw the line quickly. don't linger or think about the line while it's being drawn. make the line in one smooth motion. focus on flow vs accuracy

[Anonymous No.6391004]

>>6390816
as a fellow beginner, draw a box is a good intro to perspective and good practice but perspective goes beyond drawing boxes forever. i'm almost through with the book perspective made easy and it's way better than draw a box imo since it offers way more perspective scenarios (drawing even spacing in perspective such as a chessboard in 2 point perspective or uneven spacing such as a store front in perspective, or things like shadows of objects in perspective) that you would encounter beyond drawing 250 boxes. after a certain point in the 250 box exercise, it becomes less perspective understanding and more raw line drawing skills that are affecting your box drawing which is why i personally felt it wasn't worth it after a few dozen 2 point perspective boxes. you'll probably get more practice with drawing on your own but having tools like knowing how to draw shadows in perspective that are falling on an inclined surface is way more practical than box #149 but your own mileage may vary

[Anonymous No.6391662]

Ive never used fluorescent paint. Should I apply it atop black paint or should I back the color with white to make it glow brighter

[Anonymous No.6392210]

any critiques before I color?

also im not quite sure where to place/draw the boob. This probably wont get a response but it was worth a shot,