/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6382062]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6375562

[Anonymous No.6382064]

>>6381685
I love your stuff, I think you need a setting to put it all into.
You should post more of your stuff I like it.

[Anonymous No.6382136]

[Anonymous No.6382139]

>>6382136
why is your table on the floor?

[Anonymous No.6382147]

>>6382139
I'm a minimalist

[Anonymous No.6382149]

Is oil paint supposed to make it impossible to add lighter colors over darker colors or am I too much of a brainlet? they end up being too dark

[Anonymous No.6382173]

>>6382062
Reading keys to drawing and making copies daily,didn't get into fundamentals yet.

[Anonymous No.6382176]

>>6382149
When it's dry?

[Anonymous No.6382184]

>>6382173
Heh'd, just resize your images next time.
Don't try too much detail make bigger shapes until you study the fundies.
Proportions are verry important at this stage and the rest of your carreer.

[Anonymous No.6382226]

Draw a box, real or hack?

[Anonymous No.6382246]

>>6382226
good if used with other practice. Soul draining if its all you do.

[Anonymous No.6382247]

the less i come to this tranime infested shithole, the more i draw

[Anonymous No.6382265]

[Anonymous No.6382273]

What do you draw when you have no fucking idea what to draw

[Anonymous No.6382275]

>>6382273
>>>https://randommer.io/random-things-to-draw

[Anonymous No.6382278]

[Anonymous No.6382281]

[Anonymous No.6382300]

>>6382278
>>6382281
SOVL
>>6382273
Are you the loli guy that lost his password to some website people keep asking about?

[Anonymous No.6382301]

>>6382265
Giving him a puff of smoke for cold breath would be cool

[Anonymous No.6382376]

Desperately seeking help. I've basically plateaued on form and it takes me ages to bring even simple things to a half-finished level. Can anyone recommend some exercises on form or rendering?

[Anonymous No.6382382]

wip.
i'm happy with how it's coming about but it's pretty exhausting. gonna take a break from it.

[Anonymous No.6382384]

>>6382382
forgot the thing lol.

[Anonymous No.6382395]

[Anonymous No.6382397]

>>6382384
looking good, do Black Luster Soldier after

[Anonymous No.6382402]

>>6382136

Hey there! Good effort anon! Keep in mind that the horizon line can move, but if your subject is sitting and also the convergence point things will inherently go lower. In small spaces like a bedroom the distances are fairly small, and unless we're seeing everything from above there's bound to be a lot of overlap. I added some small notes that I hope might help a bit. Your basic understanding of convergence points for 1PP is not incorect, just keep in mind that your foreground will naturaly appear much larger than other objects and still has a threedimensional structure.

[Anonymous No.6382404]

>>6382397
thanks i actually did draw BLS before but that was like a year ago when i wasn't comfortable with color.
i should probably draw him again.

[Anonymous No.6382407]

>>6382384
Looks epic bro

[Anonymous No.6382411]

Is there a science to overlaying your lines with colour? Does it have its foundations from rim lighting, or whatever it's called? Or is it actually a /beg/ trap habit?

[Anonymous No.6382414]

>>6382411
It's just looks better?

[Anonymous No.6382415]

>>6382414
But why?

[Anonymous No.6382417]

some imagination stuff today

[Anonymous No.6382425]

[Anonymous No.6382430]

>>6382425
I maybe should've made it a bit smaller

[Anonymous No.6382432]

>>6382430
Yeah nah lost too much detail

[Anonymous No.6382434]

How'd this one turn out, have had a drawing pad for like 3 days and I'm just learning the basics of digital art

[Anonymous No.6382442]

>>6382434
His right ear is backwards.

[Anonymous No.6382443]

>>6382442
Fuck

[Anonymous No.6382470]

i can see the anatomical mistakes but mostly just looking for crit on colour theory , how i could make it more dynamic and interesting to look at
sadoe#2061

[Anonymous No.6382472]

>>6382470
>how i could make it more dynamic and interesting to look at
give them some clothes that contribute to the gesture, also tells more of a story instead of random coomshit

[Anonymous No.6382473]

>>6382376
nvm I just had to zoom the out lol. Thank you my brothers in Christ

[Anonymous No.6382475]

>>6382442
Fixed that

[Anonymous No.6382479]

No plan sketch
thots?

[Anonymous No.6382480]

>>6382470
what was the thought process behind the right arm?

[Anonymous No.6382481]

>>6382479
imagination stuff is fine in almost any quality since you're focusing more on pulling something from nothing

[Anonymous No.6382500]

Working on expressions and having fun with new brush

[Anonymous No.6382506]

>>6382500
Very good work, but I believe that her hair should be covered. Such drawings are Haram my friend. Make sure your work honors Allah in every way possible.

[Anonymous No.6382516]

[Anonymous No.6382519]

Any advice on making her look more dynamic?

[Anonymous No.6382524]

>>6382519
Better shading, and as an overall piece of advice, the line correction feature is your friend. Sketch out the basics and then put that shit to max on the final outline

[Anonymous No.6382527]

>>6382519
try contrapposto

[Anonymous No.6382530]

>>6382524
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out where to shade. Should I shade under her chin? It's hard because I think I've made the light come from below

[Anonymous No.6382531]

>>6382519
pick up a book on figure drawing and learn gesture; michael hampton is a nice entry for learning the basics on anatomy and gesture without being too overwhelming

[Anonymous No.6382536]

Sometimes it helps to draw outline for the whole hand before starting out, sometimes you need to wing it and do individual fingers separately. Sometimes using struckture helps and sometimes it makes hard to see, so I prefer to draw little circles where finger tips are supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.6382537]

How do I make it clear I’m GLBTIPOC and above criticism by YT?

[Anonymous No.6382550]

still working on the hand I'm gonna spaz

[Anonymous No.6382551]

Not an artist by any means but I like to doodle when I'm bored in class.

[Anonymous No.6382555]

>>6382551
Here's another one I did a while back

[Anonymous No.6382561]

Made some expressions for a character of mines. Thoughts on the art style?

[Anonymous No.6382566]

>>6382561
Ugly sadly

[Anonymous No.6382568]

>>6382566
Unfortunate, but thank you. Any reason why specifically?

[Anonymous No.6382571]

>>6382561
Looks nice. You can probably thin out the thick outline going from her far cheek to the chin. Shadow sort of melts with it a bit.

[Anonymous No.6382572]

>>6382568
Just my taste but I don't like the nose or the thickness of the jawline

[Anonymous No.6382573]

>>6382571
Thank you. And i see what you mean now. Didnt even notice how bold the line was

[Anonymous No.6382574]

>>6382572
Yeah i understand. the nose is just like that because idk how else to draw it lol. Is the rest of the art fine in terms of style?

[Anonymous No.6382577]

>>6382561
This is cool i like it, did my post inspired you to try this or its just coincidence?
Your artstyle looks unique and fun, its my goal actually haha.

[Anonymous No.6382579]

ashley wood study.

[Anonymous No.6382580]

Webming testing

[Anonymous No.6382581]

>>6382579
2

[Anonymous No.6382582]

>>6382577
Thanks! And yeah that expression sheet post did inspire me to make one of my own lol.

[Anonymous No.6382583]

>>6382561
>>6382500
where are the porn faces

[Anonymous No.6382592]

>>6382583
This was the 6th expression before i ended up changing it lol

[Anonymous No.6382596]

>>6382592
hot

[Anonymous No.6382599]

>>6382376
just squint your eyes lul

[Anonymous No.6382617]

Done with the sketch

[Anonymous No.6382667]

>>6382617
a tip for future guitar drawings: much of the time the strumming is done with the elbow and not the wrist, so the wrist is very rarely bent

[Anonymous No.6382712]

A study on colored pencils. The first drawing was made by blending with water. The second by applying a base layer with powder and then by increasing the shadows with pressure

[Anonymous No.6382713]

>>6382712

[Anonymous No.6382719]

>>6382712
>>6382713
Conclusion: I think the powder technique is easier to control, while if you're not versed in watercolors you will mess up. The advantage over regular watercolors is obvious, you can go in and detail more accessibly but at the same time it's probably best to use watercolors as usual and then using the pencils to add details. I like the powder as it covers the white of the paper a little bit quicker and it is ready to work as soon as you're done. Also it might be useful for drawing bodies of water, you can see it on the road I left just the powder layer and it very well could be a little stream or canal

[Anonymous No.6382730]

>>6382173
Oh chud
Oh my beloved chud

[Anonymous No.6382734]

I reached a point in this book where he asks me to draw real life objects using construction and it's difficult and I hate it.
Before he taught how to draw spheres/cubes/cylinders and that was tight but everything looks like shit when I try to apply them to life, I can't even copy these stupid hates properly.

is this the pain of construction?

[Anonymous No.6382735]

>>6382247
Cope, sóyjak website

[Anonymous No.6382756]

Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6382808]

>>6382734
These look good mate. Don't get too hung up on accuracy, especially not when constructing from reference and life.

[Anonymous No.6382812]

>>6382756
Weak face features and skull proportions.

[Anonymous No.6382823]

>>6382136
>>6382173
Laughed

>>6382756
Get ur fundies. Dont copy, try to see values and volumes

Some doodles from today

[Anonymous No.6382839]

>>6382402
This crit is way too good for this general. That /beg/ anon definitely doesn't deserve this effort for their work.

[Anonymous No.6382847]

>>6382823
Faces look ai generated.

[Anonymous No.6382857]

Some figure drawing practice.

[Anonymous No.6382890]

>>6382062
This Loomis guy ain't kidding around, you really can get some FUNdies by the end of his book. My brain is just slightly big enough for Loomis and Drawabox, pretty cool overlap so far between the universal principles of perspective between the two instructors.

[Anonymous No.6382913]

>>6382136
YEah keep laughing and making memes out of yourself no wonder you aren't improving. You just see this as "fun". You are serious or you are not. There are no in betweens faggot.

[Anonymous No.6382922]

Hello beg. Finally made it to the "grand finale" in middle of the book, after all that time drawing contours and gestures and modelling form i have arrived at this... cant say i am impressed. Still the book has other half to salvage itself.

>>6382890
you forgot to PYW anon. Show us your slightly big enough brain output!
>>6382857
Is that fancy brush or did you actually crosshatched it?
>>6382756
Eyes are supposed to be in middle of skull, you need more observation anon. Did you do keys to drawing yet?
>>6382734
the hats looks awesome, less whining more drawing
>>6382713
i have big respect for water color users and this one looks even good
>>6382551
i kneel. The lizard isnt as good because its very flat, especially the head
>>6382470
easiest way to make it more interesting is adding BACKGROUND
>>6382384
god dammit whatever you do its always epic!
>>6382136
literally me but with different books. Why is drawing so much pai.... FUN?

[Anonymous No.6382945]

How do I draw like this?
I mean, everytime I want, not just draw it and be unable to draw this ever again no matter how much I try?
Essentially, what are the best specific exercises to develop consistency?

[Anonymous No.6382979]

>>6382062
I drew Kratos. Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.6382981]

>>6382979
You don't really have to define that much the muscles, I got really confused there, blur the lines a little bit.

[Anonymous No.6383013]

I’m trying to draw for fun again, drawing used to be an escape for me before I tried to actually get good at it and now it just makes me feel worse, i probably shouldn’t be posting my stuff to a critique but I do like sharing my art even if it isn’t very good at least I can feel a bit proud of it again.

[Anonymous No.6383022]

>>6382979
Good effort desu but pic related

[Anonymous No.6383055]

>>6382265
This is pretty soulful

[Anonymous No.6383059]

bear explosion

[Anonymous No.6383062]

bear explosion!

[Anonymous No.6383100]

r8 my design
>>6382979
make the lines on the clothes, gear a little thinner, and add some darker shadow around the eyes and in the mouth
>>6382945
try drawing lines until they get totally striaght, circles until they are smooth, or boxes until they are square
>>6383062
nice rendering

[Anonymous No.6383114]

>>6383100
Pretty cool

[Anonymous No.6383124]

>>6382667
tanks for the tip

[Anonymous No.6383126]

[Anonymous No.6383129]

>>6382376
>an anyone recommend some exercises on form or rendering?
Literally just render basic spheres, cones, cylinders, cubes, and wedges.
It is all you will ever need.

[Anonymous No.6383130]

>>6382384
Unreadable mess.

[Anonymous No.6383133]

>>6382580
Don't go for details right away.
Start with abstract basic shapes, and then sculpt them in. This is the only way to convey form.
Stop chicken scratching as well. Your lines should be confident and with purpose. Do Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching exercises before each drawing session.

[Anonymous No.6383136]

Is 5 hours per day enough to get to low int in around a lot of months if I just want to ragequit this shitty thread? Neet with no job and in the mid/high beg (according to what others there said about my art btw) skill range looking to mainly draw character art like mangakas and skilled internet artists over here.

[Anonymous No.6383137]

>>6382580
I hate it when the head gets cropped on portraits

[Anonymous No.6383144]

>>6383136
If I told you yes, would you actually start drawing 5 hours a day consistently?

[Anonymous No.6383146]

>>6383144
I would start drawing even 6 desu

[Anonymous No.6383149]

>>6382922
>Is that fancy brush or did you actually crosshatched it?
For the dress and boots I did some crosshatching+screentone on top.

[Anonymous No.6383214]

Drew my friends dog today because I didn't want to do actual practice

[Anonymous No.6383223]

>read up on techniques, perspectives and so on
>Hell yeah lets do this
>Open up clip studio
>Get stumped on just navigating the interface, setting up the workspace, using proper brushes, using proper colors, setting up layers for shading and so much more

These programs are too advanced.

[Anonymous No.6383247]

>>6383223
1. select a brush
2. draw
3. ???
4. profit

but seriously, you'll figure out more over time naturally as you use the program, don't let yourself get distracted

[Anonymous No.6383389]

>>6382265
made for you from previous thread

[Anonymous No.6383398]

Yes that's white out under the eyes

[Anonymous No.6383407]

>>6382064
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that. The reality is that most of my doodles aren't really worth posting, and that's mostly what I do nowadays. Also, I never really get a critique on any of the stuff i'm proud of, and I don't really want a critique on my doodles so I don't come to /ic/ very much.

As for a setting to put them in, they already have one! I write stories for my art all the time and upload that to places where amateur stuff gets read. I got into art and amateur writing at about the same time and have mostly been doing it hand in hand from the start.

[Anonymous No.6383477]

>>6383407
Well I like your stuff, perfect for story telling and it's own unique style
I've been wondering myself wether to stop posting here but watherver there's cool regulars
>>6383133
>Do Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching exercises before each drawing session.
I've heard about these before but what are they exactly?

[Anonymous No.6383523]

My ocs Dahlia and Poppy.

[Anonymous No.6383526]

Hey could you guys recommend me good artists who color their pen and ink drawings with alcohol markers?
I need subjects for studies
Only thing I can think of currently is stills from Evangelion and Akira
Thank you

[Anonymous No.6383540]

[Anonymous No.6383569]

>>6383136
Asking people who are still stuck in the thread is asking the people who don't have the answer to your question. I also wonder how much I need to draw in order to get to /int/... I don't even have a clue how good I need to be to start getting commissions

[Anonymous No.6383574]

Hello how to draw cunny?

[Anonymous No.6383583]

>>6382411
For me it looks better just because it makes for a softer transition than just using blacks. Like black just separates everything equally, while color makes it feel like it still belongs in a group, like the face and neck in your example

[Anonymous No.6383701]

>drawing daily
>noticing slow progress
>family member mentions they have the wuhan flu
>notice today i'm fatigued and quite spaced out
fucking gains goblin fuck off

[Anonymous No.6383704]

So why does it not function in any way?

[Anonymous No.6383708]

yeah, i have no FUCKING clue what im doing

[Anonymous No.6383713]

>>6383701
Same thing happened to me. I'm 4 days in and haven't drawn at all.

[Anonymous No.6383716]

>>6383713
I had it in march 2020 too. Not vaccinated. I noticed last night when I was drawing that I was relatively spaced out when I'd look at the reference and then back at the paper.

I wouldn't mind as long as I could still draw. Trying seems to make things worse.

[Anonymous No.6383720]

>>6383704
Proportions, also, work on your basic forms

[Anonymous No.6383755]

>>6383569
tiny ear tiny ear

[Anonymous No.6383769]

>>6383708
Use low opacity airbrush for soft edges.
Make your darks darker.

[Anonymous No.6383803]

Doing some keyframes based on The Last Emperor movie

[Anonymous No.6383813]

>>6382062
I'm extremely lost on how to face everything after the sketch.
Been trying to imitate the disgaea guy for 3 days because I like how he loses the line art in his process but I no fucking clue where to go next

[Anonymous No.6383832]

How do you guys draw noses from the front? I mean in somewhat cartoonish style with no/minimal shading.
It always looks weird when I try.

[Anonymous No.6383836]

>>6383832
two diagonal lines and a half circle

[Anonymous No.6383841]

>>6383832
Anime nose or real nose? Anime nose is an abstract concept and every artist have their own way of depicting. Shadow, nostril, lighting... look at real life references if you wanna truly understand.

[Anonymous No.6383850]

>>6383841
Anime nose, but with more nose. The total lack of nose feels weird, especially that it can be used to make character look more unique, but at same time it's fucking ugly when you over-detail it.

[Anonymous No.6383851]

I wrote the prompt so it’s like I drew this.

[Anonymous No.6383858]

>>6383851

[Anonymous No.6383862]

>>6383832
>>/ic/thread/S6367946

[Anonymous No.6383875]

>>6383862
thanks, helped quite a bit

[Anonymous No.6383902]

>>6382062
I think im getting worse with every drawing not better.

[Anonymous No.6383906]

>>6383902
Radish man...

[Anonymous No.6383909]

>>6383389
OMG THIS IS S OCOOL SQUEEE

[Anonymous No.6383911]

im kind fof happy right now ^_^__^ omg

[Anonymous No.6383913]

>>6383911
down the road and not across the street

[Anonymous No.6383919]

>>6383913 wh.-what do you mena anony

[Anonymous No.6383928]

>>6383902
You started too late no neuroplasticity left.
Its over for you.

[Anonymous No.6383929]

>>6383902
>bakipilled beetroot
I kneel

[Anonymous No.6383932]

>>6383928
How late is too late?

[Anonymous No.6383937]

>>6383928
Kys nigger faggot cunt.
You might as well do nothing with your life at all, simply lay down in the grave and shut the fucking lid. Stupid fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.6383940]

>>6383932
If you start after 16 its over.
You will never become trully good.
You might slightly improve a little bit over the years but you will never reach the level of skill of someone who started young.
With each year even more of your neuroplasticity goes away until 31 years old when your brain finishes developing and all of your neuroplasticity is completely gone.

[Anonymous No.6383945]

>>6383940
Phew, thank god there's AI to curbstomp all age groups

[Anonymous No.6383946]

>>6383932
Yesterday.
Now is fine.

[Anonymous No.6383950]

Can someone please help this permabeg retard? I've been drawing for year and half and still can't draw hair for shit. I watched to many tutorials about how to paint hair digitally but still can't get my head over it.

[Anonymous No.6383954]

>>6383911

[Anonymous No.6383960]

>>6383950
>ulna and radius bones dont stick out so hard especially not by females
>fingershape is bad
>ribcage doesnt stick out like this neither

[Anonymous No.6383963]

>>6382384
all done.

[Anonymous No.6383964]

>>6383963
reference

[Anonymous No.6383967]

>>6383960
Thanks for general critique. How do people paint dark hair? Do people just start with darker gray for general color and add on top? And how do people do it digitally? Do they just lasso tool whole hair shape piece by piece?

[Anonymous No.6383969]

>>6383963
i think it would benefit from harder edges around this area especially

[Anonymous No.6383979]

you retards grinding figures and gestures endlessly have got to stop. go make some actual art instead of thinking that shit will ever help you

seriously. make some art and stop grinding dumb shit before you kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.6383999]

>>6383969
noted.
I know this still has readability issues but it's really hard to improve when the design is supposed to be detailed + monochrome+ dark

[Anonymous No.6384005]

>>6383932
tomorrow is officially the cutoff so you better hurry up and start drawing RIGHT NOW OR YOU'RE NGMI HURRY HURRY HURRY

[Anonymous No.6384008]

[Anonymous No.6384026]

Is there a way to make lineart more interesting? I don't want to stay at sketches because it's chickenscratching to many, but on other hand lineart looks boring even when I try to vary line thickness.
Or maybe it's just that a naked body simply doesn't much stuff on it and it looks plain, which is why rendering is highly used in lewd pics so it would look "busy"?

[Anonymous No.6384028]

>>6383979
You cannot help these NPCs

[Anonymous No.6384039]

>>6383902
How did you enter my dreams.

[Anonymous No.6384045]

Every time I draw without construction, features and anatomy go misaligned. Feels like I can't pay attention to everything at once, only the part I am drawing. I want to blame ADHD, but I don't know, maybe it's just gonna take a lot more training.

[Anonymous No.6384049]

Whats the best guide for hands you guys know? Im searching for a good method but most are far too laborious for fast small hands

[Anonymous No.6384055]

>>6384026
Your lineart looks boring because you're shit at it.

[Anonymous No.6384057]

>>6384026
Exercise your linework and accuracy by grinding 5 sets of 5 chudjaks.

[Anonymous No.6384062]

>>6383999
this goes very hard.
nice trips btw

[Anonymous No.6384081]

[Anonymous No.6384084]

>>6384057
Thanks >>6384081

[Anonymous No.6384094]

>>6383013
>>6383013
i have no idea why, but your style makes me feel weirdly happy. Just looking at that image makes me warm inside. No clue why tho.

[Anonymous No.6384103]

Hey does anyone have resources on how to define forms (Like muscles and shit) using shadows? I've been looking but I can't find any.
Like pic related. I know it's crosshatching but you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.6384107]

>>6384103
To define a form, you'd first have to learn it.
Can't define what you don't know.
To learn the form, you first start with the shapes, gradually incorporating basic texture, lighting and perspective.
Muscles are essentialy complex organic shapes in the perspective. So it's quite a journey to travel first.

[Anonymous No.6384111]

>>6384103
You just crosshatch where shadows go. Where do shadows go? In crevices. DRAW MORE BOXES

[Anonymous No.6384116]

>>6383999
glad you're still doing your cool skeleton shit, cool skeleton anon

[Anonymous No.6384120]

Gungrave Gore WIP

[Anonymous No.6384125]

>>6384116
woah did you draw that?
if so good shit those are some sexy lines

[Anonymous No.6384130]

>>6384125
>did you draw that?
Yeah, and thanks bud, I'll keep at it

[Anonymous No.6384131]

>>6384116
is he in a pond?

[Anonymous No.6384139]

>>6384131
I guess. Initially I wanted to draw him standing calf-deep in a pile of corpses, but I didn't like the drawing enough to finish that part

[Anonymous No.6384151]

>>6383911
I told you NO MORE CUTTING! Got that?

[Anonymous No.6384152]

>>6382062

[Anonymous No.6384156]

i accidentally spent two hours on this fucking sketch, but something still feels wrong. i've been looking at this too long to know what it is, i'd appreciate critique.

[Anonymous No.6384160]

>>6384156
She doesnt have a dick in her mouth.

[Anonymous No.6384161]

>>6384160
i have to be able to draw her well before i can draw a dick in her mouth!!!

[Anonymous No.6384162]

>>6382847
That’s kinda insulting but i guess it’s true. >>6382979
Fundies

>>6383963
P good

[Anonymous No.6384184]

It's been a while. Tomorrow I promise myself I will not draw ONLY studies. Tomorrow I must create.

>>6382922
Pawell still going - unbelievably based.

[Anonymous No.6384191]

>>6384184

[Anonymous No.6384205]

>>6384151
yes....

[Anonymous No.6384215]

>>6384156
Maybe add some eyebrows, sometimes it works

[Anonymous No.6384217]

>>6384191
The shadow looks like the profile of an old wooden toy soldier.

[Anonymous No.6384230]

Studying fabric actually, silk this time. Does it look correct ?

[Anonymous No.6384233]

>>6382062
Best advice for getting better is to draw from life every day, right? Does it help if you just don't draw well? Can you intuitively learn or do you just pick a book and read it through and draw every day while slowly reapplying what you've read?

[Anonymous No.6384237]

>>6384233
Not necessarily, it's ideal to draw from life but it's not a prerequisite to improvement.

[Anonymous No.6384267]

>>6382062
american superman

[Anonymous No.6384268]

>>6384184
imagine praising an autist that does nothing but draw shitty figures and then the one art piece he makes in the past half year is a bunch of stiff standing figures

don’t grind autist shit. make art

[Anonymous No.6384292]

Trying to get back into it.

[Anonymous No.6384313]

i wanted to draw this specific color pallet

[Anonymous No.6384316]

>>6384313
all your shit looks the same and you copy and paste so much

[Anonymous No.6384333]

>>6384313
i like it, reminds me of poison type pokemon. try varying your line weights though.

[Anonymous No.6384337]

>>6384316
sorry this was mean. although not untruthful. you clearly like drawing and have the motivation to do it unlike most of this board. stepping outside your comfort zone would probably do you wonders

[Anonymous No.6384339]

>>6384313
Thank you Doctor, but I think the dose is a little too high!

[Anonymous No.6384342]

jfc im really proud of this one

unfinished still

[Anonymous No.6384350]

>>6384230
Looks pretty good, but are you sure the ball ref is silk? To me it looks less glossy than the three refs above it

[Anonymous No.6384352]

Found some free time, so low quality start of left side of a sheet.
>>6384313
Lots of band-aids.
Bedankt, dokter.

[Anonymous No.6384358]

Is there a chart that shows different styles of drawing 2D facial features? I don't want to draw the bean mouth tumblr nose shit.

[Anonymous No.6384371]

>>6384342
keks this looks way worse because i had F.LUX turned on (program that reduces blue light on your pc)

Imma have to use a freaking yellow filter over it to look like i thought it looked

[Anonymous No.6384377]

Snek girl

[Anonymous No.6384383]

Suffering. Todays session was complete suffer misery. Hi beg.

>>6384292
anon i am no cube expert but some of these cubes look wrong. Even the cylinders. Make double sure you arent learning it wrong
>>6384268
savage
>>6384233
drawing from real life is very good method. Also copying master works. But really it doesnt look like it, but there are a lot of hidden techs, slang and advanced concepts you wont learn anywhere but from the books or courses. You lose nothing by peeking into the books recc by sticky. I heavily recommend keys to drawing
>>6384230
the red one is godlike. the blue one lacks hard edges at the folds which suggests its from different stretchy material. When painting you need at least two brushes: one for soft gradients and one small and sharp for details and edges
>>6384184
thx, now all i need is actual gain in skill
>>6384116
i kneel
>>6384103
sounds like you need keys to drawing
>>6384049
hands are one of the few things you will ALWAYS have reference available for: your own hand. Have you considered that?
>>6384008
impressive
>>6383963
you posted only few times but your style is so awesome i can already recognize it. I wonder how would calm scene where nothing is exploding or moving would look like in your style. Do you have blog?
>>6383950
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/160/
>>6383574
The same way as anything else: first find good reference ideally from real life
>>6383523
soul and cute

[Anonymous No.6384386]

As someone who according to this board is stuck at a mid-high beginner skill level, how many hours per day do I need do draw to reach a skill level around pic related in less than a year? Especially because I told me I will not start making any sort of comic until my art at least is around this skill level (the reason why I am going all on lorefagging).

I don't even draw for fun at all at this point, I stagnated for years according to people and I don't find drawing that fun anymore just because I am not good enough.

[Anonymous No.6384394]

>>6384386
you don't necessarily need good art to make a comic

[Anonymous No.6384396]

>>6384394
Yes, but I want to get at least that skill level before switching to make short series if I am confident enough. Realistically, how much time would I need even just drawing normally around 5-6 hours per day?

[Anonymous No.6384397]

I think I crapped the proportions pretty bad but I'm not sure where specifically and I'm not very good with the skirt being pulled. Any help please?

[Anonymous No.6384405]

>>6384396
No one can tell you, everyone learns differently. You could spend the rest of your life drawing and only get marginally better if you're not studying effectively. The answer to "how much should I draw a day?" is always as much as you can without burning out or affecting your health. As someone said, practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect.

[Anonymous No.6384409]

>>6384337
im doing more backgrounds so i guess that works :p

[Anonymous No.6384414]

>>6384405
Fine then, what should I study as a main priority if I want to at least first get good at decently detailed character drawing with good shape design, good sense of anatomy, decent enough perspective knowledge to put them on various angles, good dynamism, a detailed enough art style, good hands and facial expressions, etc. as a first major goal? I probably won't ever consider drawing detailed backgrounds or machinery (outside of props and guns/armor) unless my character art is on par with at least a mid tier mangaka or the skill level I posted above. I am doing quick gesture drawing now, but I realized it's kind of useless unless you memorize the structure and main muscles of the body. Also switching stickmen for drawing directly simplified shapes for the body parts helped slighty as of late.

[Anonymous No.6384417]

how do I into value studies

[Anonymous No.6384418]

>>6384386
which artists are these?

[Anonymous No.6384419]

>>6384386
Do you ever stop schizoposting Gabe?

[Anonymous No.6384431]

>>6384397
hair's a bit small at the top, heads a tad big, right arm looks odd, foot a bit long, torso a bit small.
overall cute though!!

[Anonymous No.6384446]

>>6384055
Maybe I won't just bother and go back to sketching. Drawing is hard enough already.

[Anonymous No.6384447]

testing proportions for stylized heads

[Anonymous No.6384449]

>>6382839
This place is terrible, even someone being constructive gets brought down.

[Anonymous No.6384462]

[Anonymous No.6384463]

>>6384462
The Heart...

[Anonymous No.6384464]

What's the point of posting work on twitter when even I know it sucks and that my senpai will never notice me?
I'm almost 30 and draw like a middle schooler.

[Anonymous No.6384466]

Day one of trying to follow David Finch's advice to draw the whole bridgman book twice

[Anonymous No.6384467]

>>6384463
i do not know how to draw heart uoooh

[Anonymous No.6384501]

>>6384464
Twitter just sucks in general. I posted the same image to both DA and Twitter at the same time and DA has 200+ views and 10 likes and Twitter has... 3 views. I still use it to post studies and sketches though because it's easy

[Anonymous No.6384513]

Does anyone know a good way to organically grow a follower base as an artist? Or any websites to post art that aren't full of sjws?

[Anonymous No.6384542]

>>6382404
i kneel

[Anonymous No.6384562]

Any advice for furfag shit?

[Anonymous No.6384573]

What happened to the Mega

[Anonymous No.6384577]

>>6384383
Thanks bruv.
>I wonder how would calm scene where nothing is exploding or moving would look like in your style.
ugh i don't do alot if those.
i have this one from like a year ago. was still not comfortable with digital.
>Do you have blog?
yeah I'm on twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/velleity_art

[Anonymous No.6384578]

>>6382062
this looks like someone was referncing fisher

[Anonymous No.6384653]

Lets motivate eachother for 2023 /beg/ bros

>>6382857
looks good and clean also like the style alot
>>6383963
amazing
>>6382922
super based ur grind is inspiring

[Anonymous No.6384655]

>>6384466
Didn't know about this, thanks he has a taut style

[Anonymous No.6384661]

What's wrong with the colors? Grass is green, sky is blue, tree is brown. So why does it look ugly?

[Anonymous No.6384668]

>>6384661
Try adding some blue in the background green colors.
And maybe some flowers in the foreground for color?

[Anonymous No.6384670]

>>6384661
You have zero light in your drawing.

[Anonymous No.6384673]

>>6384668
>>6384670
Ok I'll try doing that. At this point it looks like this. I added a few layers to the bark and the grass because the sun is behind the tree in the reference. I thought yellow could convey the warm sun light but maybe I am wrong or I am doing this wrong? How do I suggest light?

[Anonymous No.6384675]

>>6383126
SHINJI'S ARMS ARE NOT BLUE

[Anonymous No.6384690]

Strengthened the shadows. Because I don't not really stoked on erasing, it ruins the paper. It does look a bit better

[Anonymous No.6384691]

>>6384120
keep it up looks cool

[Anonymous No.6384692]

>>6384661

Hey Anon! Cool inks! Objects have local colours but they're heavily impacted by their environment. Things like bouncing light (light hitting other surfaces that reflect back their local colours on other surfaces) the colour and warmth of the lightsource and how solid an object is will always affect the colour of what you're percieving. The range of hues on a single surface can also vary a lot, something like treebark, that might innitially appear as "brown" might actually be different hues of gray, red and purple.

Colours also relate to one another, so sometimes we can "cheat" to make a picture look more cohesive or aesthetically pleasing. Red, for example, is a complementary colour to green, so sprinkling in a few disaturated pinks,reds or purples can make your picture more vivid.

I think the biggest issue in your current picture is information density and scattering. You have a really nice composition but you flatten the image by dispersing details everywhere. There's single little leaves in the background, single littke leaves on top of the main tree and a bunch of little clovers on the ground. Simplify the information in the back (so either committing to the inks and using larger strokes/white spaces, or taking advantage of the mixed media approach and letting the far off background "breathe" and imply it with just the pencil markers) so you can allow your audience to focus on the lovely snaking branches on the front, and that strong shadow that makes the plants under the bark stand out. If everything is detailed you risk tiring the person looking at your drawing.

Don't be afraid to push your contrasts, both with your inks and your colours. You have much better control of your composition that way!

I really admire your patience to ink traditionally like that! Keep it up anon!

[Anonymous No.6384693]

>>6384577
i love it. that stare makes me feel things. do more like this one

[Anonymous No.6384694]

>>6384692
NTA, but you are too good for this board. Absolutely well written critique and informative

[Anonymous No.6384696]

>>6384692
This is absolutely gorgeous. Thank you for your feedback I will try doing a more mixed media with no ink in the background as you say. You are definitely right I chose the photo because of the beautiful tree which is supposed to be the subject of the drawing

[Anonymous No.6384706]

What makes lineart look finished without colouring?

[Anonymous No.6384727]

>>6384661
>Grass is green, sky is blue, tree is brown
Hmmmmm

[Anonymous No.6384733]

[Anonymous No.6384750]

>>6384706
>>6384733
You decide that for yourself.

[Anonymous No.6384757]

She’s studying

[Anonymous No.6384764]

>>6384431
Thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.6384823]

What do I need to improve upon for next time?

[Anonymous No.6384851]

Trying to do some creature design silhouettes despite my terrible understanding of anatomy and drawing skills. The theme is a ram that serves as a battering ram.

[Anonymous No.6384869]

[Anonymous No.6384921]

>>6384851
Not sure how effective that would be since the ram would need a run up and couldn't do it in front of the gate like a manned battering ram.
Maybe to break through lines?
>>6384823
How much figure drawing have you studied, anatomy proportions etc. thing like that.
I'd start there.
>>6384757
Studying what? Looks like it's hard.

[Anonymous No.6384927]

>>6384377
Yes.
I love those legs. SOVL.

[Anonymous No.6384933]

>>6384414
>what should i study if i want to improve at <list of things to study>

gee i don’t know maybe every single thing you just listed

[Anonymous No.6384934]

>>6383928
There are drugs you can take to increase neuroplasticity iirc, not that it's advisable but it could help for someone old who takes gainz seriously

[Anonymous No.6384936]

[Anonymous No.6384986]

Lsg where?

[Anonymous No.6384997]

>>6384986
Make it yourself

[Anonymous No.6385003]

>>6384997
But it gets deleted over and over again. Ffs why won't they leave us be

[Anonymous No.6385022]

>>6384921
It's true that I didn't think about how the ram could gain speed quickly because of his huge horns, I mostly wanted to emphasize the power and strength without balancing all that. Now I try to design the back legs to make them powerful enough on my silhouettes.

[Anonymous No.6385025]

This is related to a story. Anyway is there anything i could do to improve the art? It looks kinda plain in my opinion. Also, don't comment on the shitty leaf brush, I am aware.

[Anonymous No.6385029]

>>6383902
Hey anon, don't listen to the guy saying you're too old and can't learn. You absolutely can. Maybe less efficiently but you will.

First things first, I have bad news and good news. Bad news is that everything you make for a while will look terrible, you're on one of the hardest stages of drawing. the good news, you will see progress really, really fast if you actually apply yourself.

Start with the basics. If you want to improve then take yourself seriously. Get proper paper and start with pencils, which are less punishing and will allow you to draw within the form. Ballpoint pens are hard to use for even very experienced people. Unless you're Kim Jung Gi (who drew for years and years) most people simply don't draw the way you do. We don't directly apply lines till they form something recognisable. Instead we break down shapes into forms. Spheres and boxes is how you need to start visualing what you're drawing, things like eyes and noses are forms slotting within other forms.
Getting a pencil and a blank slate of paper will allow you to draw inside your forms, to help you understand the shape of what you're drawing. Geting a blue pencil to do your very basic forms and then tracing your "clean" drawing with a pen or a graphite pencil might help you understand shapes a little easier.
Also at this stage, you simply have to look a little into a book or video on the fundamentals and put some time into it. When was the last time you drew before you made Beet Guy? The reason he might look worse is because you haven't really learned anything to help you draw a little more easier yet. You first have to apply principles and learn how to use them, and then repeat them till you get more comfortable with them. You didn't get worse, you just never gave yourself the tools to get better.
/ic/ isn't very good in general but the sticky is a great place to get started. Unfortunately it will take a little studying to get the grasp of the basics. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.6385030]

>>6384342
ANY TIPS ON THIS BEFORE I PROCEED NIGGAS

[Anonymous No.6385031]

>>6385029
damn

[Anonymous No.6385033]

>>6385030
The grass looks muddy

[Anonymous No.6385174]

I got nothin'.

[Anonymous No.6385176]

>>6385174
try expanding your value range, make some shadow areas really dark even if you feel uncomfortable doing it

[Anonymous No.6385180]

>>6385176
One of my biggest of many weaknesses, will do.

[Anonymous No.6385190]

>>6384869

[Anonymous No.6385196]

>>6382246
what other practice do you suggest along with it? just started it recently like you said it’s kind of soul sucking but i figured you just gotta suck it up and grind it out ti ever make any progress.

[Anonymous No.6385235]

very sovlful, keep it up!

[Anonymous No.6385274]

Anons, what tools are normally used for shading (digitally). Can't really find any good info on how to set it up properly. dodge and burn tools? drawing shadow over some base color?
I'm not asking how to shade, that's a whole different skill, but just painting different colors over each other on the same layer feels very fucking inefficient.

[Anonymous No.6385278]

>>6385274
Lower opacity and flow. Use a brush that registers pen pressure.

[Anonymous No.6385295]

>>6385278
so base color first, and then just paste the shadows/highlights on top of that using a pressure sensitive brush to liking? thanks btw

[Anonymous No.6385310]

>>6385029
blessed post

[Anonymous No.6385320]

asdhafjk.

[Anonymous No.6385323]

>>6385274
Clipping masks, air brush, and smudging tools. Keep picking colors, you'll get a sense for it with practice. Do not rely on dodge and burn.

[Anonymous No.6385330]

>>6385323
noted, thanks! Is this also able to achieve (more) clean shadow lines? I see it often for example with the skirt shadow in the image I posted

[Anonymous No.6385331]

>>6384653
looking good, keep it up!

[Anonymous No.6385336]

I'm trying to make a female base body in 3d, I'm pretty bad at making women usually so would be thankful for some feedback

[Anonymous No.6385344]

>>6385336
>>>/3/

[Anonymous No.6385353]

>>6385330
Probably just lassoed.

[Anonymous No.6385357]

>>6385344
it's so much slower than this board. I just want to know if the proportions look right

[Anonymous No.6385364]

>>6385336
Shoo, shoo, Brunet schizo

[Anonymous No.6385415]

>>6385323
the blur tool helps a lot, even with hard edges, thanks a lot! I don't know exactly what I'm doing right now but for a first study/test it works wonders.

[Anonymous No.6385417]

>>6385415
meant smudge/blur/blend whatever, you get my drift

[Anonymous No.6385449]

Do you ever get the impression that it's all about perspective?
like, even when you draw something "wrong" if it's in the correct perspective it looks right
but no matter how much you study anatomy the proportions are going to look off if you don't know how big/long they look in this particular angle since everything exists in an imaginary 3D world, the left and right arm are never going to be the same size because of the distortion, the camera angle and the distance between the VP's (unless it's like a character sheet)
of course, anatomy is important, and gesture if you don't want your character to look like a stiff manikin, but at the end of the day Perspective might be the most important thing because EVERY LINE is supposed to be drawn at a specific angle because of perspective laws and if you don't nail that angle it's going to look weird (it doesn't have to be perfect but it's obvious when it's not correct)

[Anonymous No.6385454]

>>6385449
>that it's all about perspective
It is literally and I mean it is LITERALLY all about perspective.

[Anonymous No.6385457]

>>6385449
yes, I find that it all goes back to the boxes

[Anonymous No.6385463]

What is this bump? Is it not the lats?

[Anonymous No.6385465]

>>6385463
Deltoids

[Anonymous No.6385466]

>>6385463

[Anonymous No.6385471]

>>6385449
Form is king.

[Anonymous No.6385477]

Man learning anatomy from 2D images is so confusing sometimes. Do you guys use any 3D modelling programs to easier see insertion points etc?

[Anonymous No.6385493]

[Anonymous No.6385495]

>>6385029
>>6384692
>>6382402
You're too good for this world, I want to draw something for you

[Anonymous No.6385523]

>>6385493

[Anonymous No.6385569]

>started drawing with the keys to drawing book
>get fairly decent (imo for a /beg/) at eyeballing a drawing while tracing the silhouette
>start learning about construction
>all my drawing back to shit
just trying to tell myself that this is a part of the process so i can draw from imagination

[Anonymous No.6385596]

>>6385569
correct

copying contours you see on an image means you always need an image, although its not a bad thing you got good at this

next you'll construct your image from the simple forms, then learn how to add mass to that construction to create the contours you used to trace

do this ad nauseum and you will stop needing to look at an image and instead you will be able to create a convincing image on your own

[Anonymous No.6385602]

[Anonymous No.6385610]

Any advice for backgrounds (This is the first background I put effort in)

[Anonymous No.6385609]

>>6385596
i'm hoping that my construction forms get cleaner with experience. i switched to using pencil to draw them then tracing over with a pen but it's all so busy even when i erase the pencil that it's hard to tell what's happening. it might also be due to the fact that i draw everything small as shit to fit multiple sketches onto a 10 cm by 15 cm notebook (probably also explains why it looks like i have parkinsons whenever i have to draw a long line or large circle)

[Anonymous No.6385613]

>>6385610
with the canvas color behind it looks better, but when I upload it it doesn't load that part

[Anonymous No.6385615]

Stupid beg here, I started drawing this mushroom but had to stop because shadows are hard. Maybe I should switch to stippling for this subject (?

[Anonymous No.6385624]

>>6384869
can't say i'm happy with the face but here's my take on it. seing your work kind of made me want to acquire this style too at some point, haha.

[Anonymous No.6385648]

Greetings beg. Today i am okay with the results.

>>6385615
The way you drew the left shroom. The wrinkles there. Draw the shadows in same way on the other shroom. The darker the spot the more strokes. Simple as
>>6385610
More contrast. Dont be scared to make parts where light cant go very dark
>>6385569
Welcome to the beg hell. Also you cannot claim you get fairly decent without PYW
>>6385493
solid
>>6385025
That is kinda... good. Very nice, stylized and soulful. For my taste the contrast could be better. The rocks could have some texture and darker color. Same as you use brush for leaves find some brush for rock texture and make them rough and dark
>>6384936
solid study
>>6384562
It seems like furfags community has the bestest artist ever. Just do master study of your favorite furfag artist
>>6384447
nice heads, very clean lines i am jelly
>>6385357
Easiest way to find out if something is good or not is to find reference and compare. If you can find woman with so long arms then you are good

[Anonymous No.6385657]

Drawabox finna humble me, this is harder than I thought

[Anonymous No.6385658]

>>6385657
>sideways
It's ogre

[Anonymous No.6385699]

>>6382136
peak SOVL

[Anonymous No.6385703]

>>6385648
>Also you cannot claim you get fairly decent without PYW
this was from a week ago before i started focusing on construction. doing white foam on top of a dark water surface using only black ink was tough especially as a beginner but i think i pulled it off decently

[Anonymous No.6385744]

Finished. Not everything is in the right place, but the best I can is good enough.

[Anonymous No.6385816]

>>6385744
Face is the biggest issue.

[Anonymous No.6385820]

>>6385657
i got my 250 boxes approved by official critiquers. just taking a lil break before i start lesson 2

[Anonymous No.6385842]

>>6383389
>Fleshfang

[Anonymous No.6385865]

The bridgman study continues.

[Anonymous No.6386134]

NEW THREAD
>>6385705
>>6385705
>>6385705

[Anonymous No.6386442]

what's worng with her face? pls help

[Anonymous No.6386444]

>>6386442
That's called a woman son.
Also post in new thread.