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Some indie games already outsourcing their art to AI instead of artists, as if finding a job in the gaming industry wasn't hard enough already

>> No.6378923

>>6378916
Indie game devs will soon use AI voice actors, AI 3d art and AI music. Big game studios will probably still use humans though

>> No.6378924

>>6378923
My art isn't good enough for big game studios, yet

>> No.6378925

>>6378923
Until the AI game generator rolls out.

>> No.6378929

>>6378925
And kills every indie which makes AAA games more valuable. AI is not here to help the common man.

>> No.6378933

>>6378916
Indie game devs are as poor and statved as an artist they cant afford your shitty price and slow output

>> No.6378934

>>6378916
oh wow amazing another asset flip that will go nowhere unless he gets lucky and some streamer will play it ironically

>> No.6378935

>>6378916
It looks like shit though

>> No.6378937

>>6378916
OP get a life.
Sage, report and hide.

>> No.6378939

>>6378916
How great would that be. Ai makes your own Aaa game. And I'm sure the gov would only step in then. Seriously fuck big corporations and fuck the government. If ai fucks us over may it fuck us all

>> No.6378941 [DELETED] 

>>6378916

If this is good enough for them... I'll can't even imagine how shit the game is.

>> No.6378945

>>6378939
They will protect themselves of course. All corporations have to do is buy the very best generators and anything that is free will be good enough to go rampant on the internet and at the same time destroy the dreams of indie game makers. This is the way we are heading with these technologies.

>> No.6378950

If indie devs are poor fucks who can't even afford an artist it's better than programmer art I guess.

>> No.6378984

>>6378923
I want AI voice actors because i dont trust any female VA to not screw me over eventually, either by #metoo or wanting royalties.

>> No.6378989

>>6378950
imagine if ZUN used AI instead of doing it himself

>> No.6378992

>>6378989
?

>> No.6378998

>>6378989
I don't want to imagine that timeline.

>> No.6379001

>>6378916
Is this YOUR game, op?

>> No.6379021

>>6378916
>indie games
Read: garbage asset flip games, most likely for the mobile games market which is already a dumpster fire in the deepest pits of hell to begin with

>> No.6379026

>>6379021
It's a steam game

>> No.6379029

>>6378916
>indie
Who gives a fuck

>> No.6379030

>>6378916
but this looks like fucking shit. who cares? it's going to be $.49 on steam and sell like 3 copies. 1 to the dev, 1 to the dev's mom, and 1 to igg to distribute for free (which no one will download)

>> No.6379032

>>6378916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zPOqgFXnRM
it's even worse than I thought it would be LMAO

>> No.6379034

>>6378916
>Some indie games already outsourcing their art to AI instead of artists
We already saw this months ago and they all looked like garbage.

>> No.6379039

>>6379034
Pretty much, I used to make some of the art for those retarded puzzle hentai games and now they are using AI and the artists mostly fix details now

>> No.6379043

>>6379032
>terrible UI design
>colors look terrible
>sounds are ear-grating
>gameplay looks boring and bland
>loading and title screens look like unidentifiable blobs
This is the prime example of what idea-guy AIfags do.

>> No.6379044

>>6379032
Generic phone shit game lol

>> No.6379122

>>6379026
And it looks like a mobile game asset flip. Surprise surprise.

>> No.6379127

>>6378916
>stellaris species portrait mods made with SD
HOLY KINO ITS THE SECOND RENAISSANCE

>> No.6379147

>>6379032
theres no cohesion, every asset looks like it's from a different game

>> No.6379200

>>6379032
can't wait to play this piece of shit

>> No.6379208

>>6378916
AI will bring the creativiti now everybody will make their dream games and the games will be better than ever!
the games they make: >>6379032

>> No.6379214

>>6379208
Exactly the same with illustrations. AI will just flood the already flooded market with even worse things.

>> No.6379216

>>6379208
>can't do better so i will just shit on others hobby projects

>> No.6379219

>>6379216
cope forever AIjeet

>> No.6379220

>>6379219
Ok, drawlet. Keep drawing your boxes

>> No.6379221

>>6378935
We all know it looks like shit, but does it really matter? the point is this could be a starving artist's job.

>> No.6379223

The first aircraft could barely get off the ground for a few moments at a time before plummeting down.
Ai will be the same, every year that comes will completely blow the prior year's achievement out of the water.

>> No.6379232

>>6379223
2 more weeks sirs

>> No.6379238

>>6379232
Check 2ch3n, art there is so good the fbi had to put a stop

>> No.6379248

>>6379032
it looks like runescape but moba. i've seen worse indie games in art direction though. good luck with this thing trying to get any attention in the sea of its competition other than that it's been AI-generated.

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>>6379032
Looks like iOS shovelware. Wasn’t this kind of thing being done with Civ, Sim City and Rollercoaster Tycoon back in 1998? Is this dev retarded? I can go play Gangsters: Organized Crime if I want an old looking RTS game, but is actually good.

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>>6379232
Hhhhhmmmhahahahahahahaha, ah yes indeed retard, two more weeks
It's actually alarming how fast time is passing by, fuck

>> No.6379268

>>6378916
Indie gamedevs are poor as fuck and try to cut corners anywhere they can. It also looks shit to anybody who looks at it for more then half a second with the amount of artefacts. Dumbass probably used CrAIon from 5 months ago or something.

>>6378925
Yeah, indie gamedevs are artists themselves, making the art of gameplay and then also needing to make the assets, music and so on. AI will take away all creative jobs, every single one of them in the next 5 years, so gamedevs are trying to speed things up and get their stuff released asap. No need to crab on other artists from other fields just because they were not automated yet.

>>6378945
I think they will be the ones who make those AIs in the first place. AAA games have been flopping in recent years and AAA studios are now rather investing into making their franchises last longer with minimal effort, or making game engines themselves. EPIC will absolutely be the one releasing Gamemaking AI. Unreal Engine 6.0 will probably be released as text2game program and dominate the industry.

>> No.6379269

>>6379216
very ironic statement coming from a AI shitter

>> No.6379270

>>6379269
pyw

>> No.6379281

>>6378916
cool, i would rather have that than endless torrent of pixelshit/no-graphics

>> No.6379324

>>6379032
the prime example of why gatekeeping is good and idea guys need to hang en-masse

>> No.6379376

>>6379032
Wow! AI can make all the generic Unity assets no one was buying already!

>> No.6379377

>>6378916

Don't worry, is not like you have the skill level to work on the gaming industry.

>> No.6379382

>>6379377
If he had, probably wouldn't make it too now that AI is in the game.

I wonder how long until AI replace my job too. Will eventually everyone become jobless or become programmers?

>> No.6379386

>>6379382
>Will eventually everyone become jobless or become programmers
Only if you let jews and their pajeet servants win. No, and you will not get UBI when you lose your job. Fight or rot.

>> No.6379395

>>6379032
Oh no no no nooo, ai bruhs, how will be recover?

>> No.6379429

>>6379382
>Will eventually everyone become jobless or become programmers
As if programmers aren't going trough the same thing, but unlike artists they realize their job is not something sacred

>> No.6379455

>>6379223
I know street shitters truly are low intelligence, but comparing the pioneering of aviation to AI art is roflmao deserving

>> No.6379461

>>6379429
>their job is not something sacred
Well, it should be. Why design something to replace yourself? I understand why they would do with other jobs, but themselves?

>> No.6379468

>Some indie games already outsourcing their art to AI instead of artists,
>as if finding a job in the gaming industry wasn't hard enough already
>gaming industry
Gaming industry being a pile of shit aside, indies are literally not the industry, you mentally ill monkey. Stop begging for attention with shit threads and get mental help already.

Ban AI threads.

>> No.6379475

>>6379468
Janitors will do nothing and you will be happy.

>> No.6379478

>>6379221
>indie games
>job

>> No.6379511

Once AI is adopted onto the mainstream will reviewers be more harsh in their criticism now that "it's as if a robot wrote/drew/made this" is actually a literal fact?

>> No.6379523

>>6379429
>unlike artists they realize their job is not something sacred
Because programming is fucking gay. Mathematics sucks dick and is the most boringest shit ever and I'm glad I cheated on my finals to a perfect score off of the faggot loser who studied hard.

>> No.6379525

>>6378916
> Wanting to work in the video game industry
Why do you guys want to be abused by studio heads?
Don't be a slave, work for yourself.

>> No.6379530

>>6379461
>but themselves
programmers are the biggest crabs

>> No.6379535

>>6379523
As someone who likes maths, i think hard sciences and humanities can coexist. The problem is that we have gone down the utilitarian path and most people have come to only see value in efficency, to the point where we made a god out of technological progress above all else
Its not maths that are the problem, is our collective philosophy on life

>> No.6379537

>>6379032
>1 month ago
>211 views
>3 likes
>at least a few dozen of the vieww are from this thread
Sirs...

>> No.6379538

>>6379461
They dont do it, they are cogs in machine getting paid to do functions. You ask one developer to make metal tube, one to make sharp ball, another to make gunpowder case, another to make barrel, and the last one to make igniter. You then connect those pieces together and shoot all of those developers with it. They unknowingly made the gun that killed them by just being given few vague tasks.

Also, no developer ever thought they could replace artists, or themselves with tech this primitive. All they did is teach robot how to write text by just giving it bunch of text to analyze, and then gave another bot bunch of images to learn to identify. While trying to build a textbot they unknowingly made bot that can code. While making AI that can identify pictures for self driving cars, they unknowingly made bot that can replace all of artists. This is what picture generators do, they just look at noise and try to find something that looks like the prompt you gave it, and the noise that looks the closest to the prompts given is then selected and made variations from, and then repeated many times over until it gives you the picture.

Literally all it took to replace creativity itself was to make bot that recognizes stuff placed in front of it. Even the programmers thought that there was more to creativity then just monkey brains seeing objects and remembering that apple is red ball.

>> No.6379545

>>6379032
Oh shit, I saw nookrium playing this shit lol

>> No.6379561

>>6379538
>replace
It hasn't replaced shit, bugman. It also is not creative. It's only copying human creativity. Without human artwork in it's training data it would only be able to reproduce photos.

>> No.6379622

>>6378925
>Until the AI game generator rolls out.

Just imagine, you combine AI art with AI self-programming (google's copilot?) and you ask them to create a game for you, within minutes you have a fully playable game.

No need for artists, or codemonkeys, just a prompt and you have a game...

Indie game devs are fucked too.

>> No.6379624

You will make nothing, have all and be depressed

>> No.6379633

>>6379622
I really don't want to believe that the average IQ is dropping, but reading posts like this makes me reconsider, you people really have no clue how anything works.

>> No.6379634

>>6379538
>one to make sharp ball
good morning, sir
please do the needful

>> No.6379639

>>6379622
Honestly, I think gaming is going to be completely different from what we know it as now. Why even have 3D graphics when the AI can immediately create 60 frames per second of, well, literally anything? I foresee gaming being like the old-school RPGs we used to know, except now with the ability to satisfy the immense scope and promise of that entire genre: placing you in a 100%, fully interactive world of your desire. We're already seeing snippets of that eventuality with things like AI Dungeon or Novel AI or Beta.Character.AI.
I legitimately think the gaming industry as we know it might not exist in 10 years.

>> No.6379640

>>6378923
that's nothing, "AI" is not even real yet, but in less than 10 years this technology will be able to create art and games without our help,
meaning, all these people who shit on artists are going to suffer the same thing; AI is not going to need you to push a button, she's going to do everything by herself

>> No.6379641

>>6379633
In 5 years, AI will create a perfect replica of the real world, you can access it through Elon Musk's neuralink and live out your wildest fantasies with god mode turned on.

>> No.6379642

>>6379641
Now THIS is shitposting.

>> No.6379644

>>6379032
That main menu ai art screen looks really really good. Frankly, the art is the best thing about the demo.

>> No.6379645

>>6379639
>Why even have 3D graphics when the AI can immediately create 60 frames per second of, well, literally anything
If you want to play at ~500px, sure

>> No.6379646

>>6379642
I can't wait to get in ze pod(racer)

>> No.6379649

>>6379645
nta but would it be easy enough to upscale with AI or just train it on larger images? He is talking 10 years from now.

>> No.6379653

>>6379649
10 years from now is so far away that we might all be uploading our minds to some virtual world depending on what breakthroughs we get

>> No.6379656

>>6379653
The last ten years flew by in a blink... HL2 came out 18 years ago as of today and gaming has barely evolved...

>> No.6379659

>>6379656
Wii changed it so much that everyone hated the motion fad

>> No.6379674

>>6379659
The ways we interface has had changes, waggling... and now VR. but the game content is still the same as 18 years ago. Even enemy AI is the same or worse(F.e.a.r is still king came out in 2005). Façade came out in 2005 and nothing has really evolved from that either. New AI developments will help, but I'm not expecting much.

>> No.6379680

>>6379641
fucking ai gooners

>> No.6379682

>>6379674
If devs wanted to make game's AI to have instant reaction, dodge every single one of your attacks, avoid attacking you one by one and instead heavily outnumber you, have herd mentality, know how to flank you, play dirty by abusing glitches they could. But they need to make AI dumb so the players think they are outsmarting a living thing and feel the dopamine rush from this

>> No.6379709

>>6379682
How about if devs instead of making player kill 30 player-sized idiots at the same time and then battle boss that has 30 times larger healthbar then you, the games made enemies more realistic by making them less stupid and actually abuse these mechanics you said. It would be more satisfying if you defeated one strong enemy that is actually smart, but you still outsmarted it, or outskill it. Less enemies that are very difficult are fun to beat for gamers, because if it was not we would not have bossfights in 95% of games.

>> No.6379718

>>6379709
Because only a small minority of people cares about being good at a dumb videogame and the people that care usually go play competitive multiplayer games instead. There's just no demand for hard singleplayer games.

>> No.6379719

>>6379208
ai is death to creativity

>> No.6379720

>>6379709
Most people play mobile games anon, they like easy games and gambling

>> No.6379721

>>6379682
Hey, Fromsoft kinda does it. I think there is a way to do it and still feel fair.

>> No.6379724

>>6379718
>souls series

>> No.6379726

>>6379682
Yeah, just look at the arcade version of MKII if you want ass-blasting AI

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>>6378916

Yup. As I predicted this account I'm following is setting up a service for it.
I'm guessing there are/will be others as well.

https://www.scenario.gg/

>> No.6379731

>>6379724
>souls series
>hard
Kek. You earned your (You)

>> No.6379732

>>6378916
Asset flippers are the bottom feeders of the gaming industry and were never a threat to begin with. They churn out slop for dregs.

>> No.6379734

>>6379728
Cool, I can make a game that has no unique visuals and blends in with the rest of the AI asset games. Just what I needed.

>> No.6379735

>>6379734
Think of all the kids spending their parents mom with your gacha. Whenever I think of that I have an urge to learn how to program a game, but I'm too old and my brain isn't flexible anymore

>> No.6379740

>>6379721
>AI that slowly moves towards you, when it gets close it will perform random melee attack
>If it is ranged, it will do shooting animation and then shoot singular projectile at you
>Aim of the enemy is so bad Fromsoft needs to add homing to almost every projectile enemy shoots
>Enemy sometimes uses shield, sometimes does not, usually invincible with shield out, and then decides to put it away for no reason other then give you free hits
>Agile enemies in latest game can perform dodgeroll when shot with projectile, however they will dodge even if you are aiming 180 degrees from them
>Enemies deliberately perform slow pointless attacks that have massive opening windows to make themselves easier to defeat
>Smart AI
Fromsoft has some of the dumbest AIs in the industry, but they also do it intentionally since they "fake player invader" AIs are quite smart. Just further shows that gamedevs make AIs dumb on porpoise for reasons. Just the same thing as all games do, make enemies small idiots that are as strong as the player, but dumb as rock, and then make bosses equally dumb, but give them absurd HP so that you spend 5 minutes slashing them instead of figuring out how to outsmart them or outskill them. Enemy encounters in all videogames, not just Fromsoft games are just excursive how to deal with multiple easy targets and all bossfights are just endurance challanges on how long you can stay alive with big idiot spasming around.

>> No.6379741

>>6379731
I'm sure you beat Nameless King solo on your first try. we got a bona fide epic gamer over here guys!

>> No.6379744

>>6379734

You're being sarcastic anon but a lot of these small game developers will probably love that lmao. They'll probably want to make something that looks broadly appealing and stylistically familiar vs. something visually groundbreaking.

For every clash of clans or candy crush you have thousands of copycats trying to borrow off of a proven concept.

>> No.6379745

>>6379740
I liked sekiro bosses more than souls bosses. There was a sense of outskilling them.

>> No.6379747

>>6379741
But I beat it and I'm not even the best gamer in the world to the point I could make a career playing something professionally. I'm just an average Joe. Ikaruga on the other hand, I have never beat it and that is one of the more mainstream space shooters, I'm sure there are harder ones that never got released in the west

>> No.6379748

>>6379741
The bosses are highly predictible and do telegraphed attacks, this is not just Fromsoft bosses, but basically all videogame bosses in general. Even a trained monkey could beat them with enough tries unless there is some hidden mechanic that is needed to defeat the boss. Now compare that to having a deathmatch with some top league multiplayer gamer. He will wipe the floor with you, just like the NPC boss, but then he will stop playing with you giving you no more tries to fight against him. Furthermore if you somehow convinced him to keep playing with you, you will not outskill him since just as you are training on him, he is training on you, his tactics will change just like how you are changing your to suit him, its endless struggle. NPC boss is still the same retard after 5 years despite there being plenty of models able to play and learn games better then people, and unless you put 20 of them in a single level, they should run decently on modern gaming PCs.

>> No.6379749

Isn't an important part of enjoying media for most people the conversation around it? If we actually get to the point where you can just generate your own game then a lot of people might just get bored of movies and games because they can't go on Twitter and make a hot take about whatever's popular. More likely than that though the game developers and movie studios are gonna just be one guy in their office cubicle pumping out shit after shit until something sticks.

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>>6379718
>There's just no demand for hard singleplayer games.
Oh wow is it 2017 again? The feeling of nostalgia coming back!

>> No.6379753

>>6379749
That is just zoomers looking to confirm their tastes in social media

>> No.6379754

>>6379749
i think if this shit really does take off, we will see massive oversaturation, and i presume intelligent, well designed systems and games/art will stand out about the massive wave of instantly generated AI work. i suppose there is a tipping point where we really do go full dive into AI, but idk, very strange circumstances

>> No.6379756

>>6379749
This is unironically going to happen, and it will fucking kill media and artform as a whole. People will eventually go and decide to talk about nothing but already released and old media, because you cant uninvent the machine. This is the kind of damage that lot of the consoomer retards dont realise. AI generated content might sound appealing, but people will get bored of it just like how most people got bored of AI picture generators, and it will be very very negative in the long term for the consumers.

Just because the tech is undesirable does not mean it will go away. If it can create the same product in mere seconds with no work required, then why bother making it by hand. Indie devs might still be able to make games, and people will be there wanting authentic indie games, but they will not buy them because of the skepticism that they might be AI generated. If media gets so cheap and so valueless that it is not even worth sharing or talking about it, then it will die. This is why AI art is worse then photograps, or not just a tool, not everyone can be an artist.

Giving every retard the power to make literally any kind of media of very very high quality will have worse effects on society then if just corporations had it and produced nothing but the most goyslop of goyslop there is.

>> No.6379758

>>6379754
Gaming industry is already oversaturated with low quality trash nobody plays. AI games will either have to be AAA level quality, or nobody will use them, and Steam and other retailers will 100% ban them on day 1 to avoid getting flooded with actual garbage.

>> No.6379759

>>6378916
>indie games
The weren't going to pay you anyways

>> No.6379760

>>6378925
Templates are already a thing

>> No.6379763

>>6378916
"indie" studios can mean anyone. thats why they're called indie
you make a game tomorrow and you're now an indie develop
AI will just make it easier for asset flippers to spam market places more and more. the perfect tool for pajeets

>> No.6379764

>>6379756
How can you determine now what games look good when there are dozens if not more being released everyday

>> No.6379767

>>6379758
>Steam and other retailers will 100% ban them on day 1
With the $100 entry fee to steam, I don't know if valve would say no to free money...

>> No.6379772

>>6379749
>>6379754
You both strongly underestimate how difficult good design is to achieve.

>> No.6379773

>>6379764
https://twitter.com/microtrailers
6 second trailers.

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>> No.6379776

>>6379773
Do you watch trailers of every single game being release?

>> No.6379778

>>6379728
>this will democratize art!
>now you fucking elitist, sameface syndrome artists will have to get a real job!
>AIjeets immediately set up Patreons and ko-fis for their models that use real artists' work, try to sell AI commissions, try to market full on "unique" generators
Yes, let's replace those fucking elitist artist scumbags with something far scummier and even less innovative! That'll show them.

>> No.6379784

>>6379764
Indie game quality before you buy today is determined by 2 things usually

1) Youtubers making positive reviews
If the game was not somewhat decent, why would some autist on youtube make entire video about it?

2) The quality and beauty of visuals
If the game looks like assetflop, then there is almost 100% chance the game will end up shit. If the game looks generic, it probably has boring gameplay since the gamedev is a boring person that cant make the game look interesting, so he will probably also make it play uninterestingly. And also the fact that if the game graphics are of high quality, the gamedev is probably more experienced and has more then one person behind it, so they probably know what they are doing and know how to fix bugs and stuff.

>> No.6379788

>>6379728
The age of the room temp IQ ideas guy with a communications degree is truly upon us.

>> No.6379789

>>6379728
>replies full of cryptoids and nftards

>> No.6379790

>>6379776
no. I don't even bother looking cos there is too much trash. but if you really were interested, that is one way to do it.

>> No.6379799

>>6379778
I think they are different groups.
The group that steals artist works are either progress fags that simp over every technology and are genuinely excited that artists are losing their jobs, or willfully ignorant techbros who are not malicious, but still hold beliefs that this tech will never replace "soul", while they are actively working on harming the artists

The other group who say get real job are boomers who can to tech, or boomerbrained millennials that can do tech but are too busy to research this thing or use it, so they just see news that AI won art contest, they comment on how artists should get a real job, and then they go back to their office job or go back complaining about Qanon or transphobic people on twitter.

>> No.6379851

>>6379778
this is the talk of all grifters
they'll take advantage of your distrust of bigger guys to rip you off
remember, they're on your side!

>> No.6379852

>>6379799
Maybe, but most of them are just projecting their hunger for money onto artists. Every time they gloat about killing commissions or whatever the fuck, the unwritten completion of the sentence is that now THEY think they will be the ones to find a way to monetize art for their own ends. They'll talk about how you can't copyright a style, fanart commissions, charging out the ass for lazy furfag pics or whatever, but say nothing about the huggingface users who monetize models which are effectively "filter your photo to be in the style of this TV show," or people using AI art to mint NFTs. If they really have a problem with artists making money from art, the AI community is shaping up to be a far more malignant tumor on the commodification of """creativity""" than rando coomerbait artists on twitter ever were.

At the end of the day, most of them are just jealous wagies who think of everything in terms of dollars, and really don't grasp that the overwhelming majority of artists who make money from art never started drawing because they thought it would be a lucrative career.

>> No.6379890

>>6379852
A lot of them are just fucking retards who think that Fine Arts is going to be destoyed by this. I find the AI retards complaining about people shitting on a canvas or taping a banana to a wall really amusic. Ironically, that's the one part of the art world that is going to be completely insulated from this, while the actually skilled artists are going to suffer.

>> No.6379910

>>6379890
Yeah, if anybody is going to be financially hurt by this, it will be the wagies of the art world, the people who make minimum wage (if that) from fiverr commissions and making graphics for local businesses.

>> No.6380022

>>6379910
If you are fiverr freelancer, you basically deserve it. That place is full of scammers and idiots that cant give you good commission. I dont know how could anybody buy artpiece commission there.

>> No.6380081

>>6379890
Those idiots seriously think we like the banana wall shit.

>> No.6380092

>>6379032
These are placeholders, right?

>> No.6380099

>>6380092
>When you actually try to prompt something with utility in mind instead of just posting cool picture of anime girl to /stg/

>> No.6380101

>>6380081
I mean some of /ic/ like some weird shit... I like banana walls over fringe anime coom

>> No.6380147
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>> No.6380155

>>6378989
So an improvement?

>> No.6380294

>>6378989
ZUN is the type to try AI for a while, get annoyed that he's not getting the results he want, says fuck it, downs an entire keg and then does the drawing himself.

>> No.6380299

>>6378916
so instead of using assets that all look the same, now they'll use AI which also all looks the same and even shittier and blander than the asset flips. This just screams "jank" and low effort to me, and I've been a video game addict for 20 years

>> No.6380306

>>6379026
99% of games on Steam should not exist and are not even worth playing for free. I don't think you fathom the sheer amount of garbage on that platform. This has been an issue for nearly 10 years, and people constantly point this out

>> No.6380308

>>6380147
Come, mister tally man, tally me banana

>> No.6380312

>>6379633
I blame reddit and twitter.

>> No.6380513

AIfags continue to show how they don't know shit about creative processes.
>Making art is just drawing people, right?
>Making video games is just making models, right?

Does anyone have a certain webm saved from back when the AI spam started months back across multiple boards? It was from an AIfag that said he was making a game. The game he posted was a blurry zoomed-in generated background with a poorly animated and badly drawn skeleton man in black clothes running across the canvas.

>> No.6380787

>>6379043
it's awful, yes, but the AI generated art is the good part. It's over.

>> No.6380866

>>6380513
pyw

>> No.6380875

>>6380513
kek

>> No.6383854

>>6379220
Even if that was all he drew he'd still be your superior.

>> No.6383857

>>6379208
you've always been able to take images from the internet and claim they were yours

>> No.6383863

>>6379622
Github Copilot. The prompt feature is far from usable by a layman. I use the autocomplete feature for my personal projects and I have to correct a a few things in pretty much everything it produces, but it does still save a ton of time. Unless they revolutionize AI overnight I doubt it'll get to the point of producing entire games on its own in just a few years. Not to mention what it's actually doing is resynthesizing existing code, so unless it's trained on good code from games it won't know how to create a game on its own, especially if they're platform specific like Unreal and Unity.

>> No.6383914

>a month ago:
"lol AI art is trash it will NEVER replace real art go shill elsewhere pajeets"
>today:
"NOOOOO WHERE ARE THE HECKIN LAWSUITS?? IM LOSING MY INCOMEEEEE"

>> No.6383924

>>6378933
They can always make their own art, even if it simple, it is their effort and sovl and people will play sovl games. Using AI edited photos is a sign of laziness and disrespect to gamers.
Picrel started with 3 y.o drawings in MSpaint and the game have lasted for 10 years already.

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>>6383924

>> No.6383926

>>6383914
Huh that's kind of true, didn't really notice that change myself before

>> No.6383930

>>6383914
More like
>a month ago:
"lol AI art is trash it will NEVER replace real art go shill elsewhere pajeets"
>last week:
"NOOOOO WHERE ARE THE HECKIN LAWSUITS?? IM LOSING MY INCOMEEEEE"
>today
"lol AI art is still trash it might replace real art in 20 years go shill elsewhere pajeets"

>> No.6383939

>>6379641
They really think like this

>> No.6383953

>>6380787
anon... most games I see that have an anime aesthetic I assume it's a gacha game
>if most ai art is in games that are shit I'll assume the game is shit

>> No.6383973

>>6383914
AI art is still garbage

>> No.6384029
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>>6383973

>> No.6384031

>>6384029
Did you see the image that won? Glowing Midjourney ai slop. Vs 2 other images, a rat dude and a flower. "Finearts competition" it was a state fair in bumfuck nowhere.

>> No.6384032

>>6384029
> conveniently leaves out the part where he was in the Photoshop division and actual art still won in another
lol
lmao

>> No.6384078

>>6378929
bu-but something something democratization

>> No.6384080

>>6379622
copilot belongs to microsoft. build on github sources. Programers are such cucks lol.

>> No.6384199

>>6378916
Exactly what people were saying would happen.
Soon the argument will change to "fuck those people anyway".

>> No.6384211

>>6384199
>change.
emm no, there was never any empathy.

>> No.6384232

>>6384199
I am solo indie dev and I also draw. Making games is really hard and we are just as dirt poor as you guys. You need to think of the gameplay, test the gameplay, see if it is fun, learn how to code, do the animation and so on. One of the most common things indie devs will tell you is to just make games, just make them, same with drawing, just draw. When I make some game I dont expect to succeed, I will just leave it buggy and do the art pretty fast.

This is where most assetflops come from on itch.io. Steam is different since you need to pay them to have your game there, so the assetflops there are genuine subhumans thinking their trash is gold. So when I try to make 2D platformer in 1 week I will use every trick in the book to make the process as fast as possible. I used AI art on some projects I never released and only showed friends, I even used AI generated music there.

However when I try to make something that should have soul, of course I will work hard on it and find some artist that will help with me, I hate the AI too, but when I have to choose between stealing pictures from the internet, getting stuff from asset store, or using AI, I will use AI, because even the simple prompt writing gives me more control then google search or seeing which assets some rando decided to make free on asset store. I dont give a fuck if it is immoral on tiny scale, since only like 300 max people will ever play it, its no Hollow Knight. And again, when I decide to finally make my own magnum opus, I will try to find artists to work with, or learn it myself.

>> No.6384349

>>6384232
>when I have to choose between stealing pictures from the internet, getting stuff from asset store, or using AI, I will use AI,
You can also choose to collaborate with someone, or to not make your shitty game at all.

>blah blah fuck artists and musicians, but people should support my epic game designer dreams!

>> No.6384356

>>6384232

>Making games is really hard and we are just as dirt poor as you guys.

This right here is the problem. They can't afford it but AI allows you to generate something that you have to pay a lot of money for free. By stealing and trained on top artist work.

You make a low budget game. Why would you need a high budget art? Find artist that charge what you can afford and hire them.

That artist can get some money while accumulating experience working with clients and you get an artwork that is on par with your whatever you're working on.

>> No.6384362

>>6384349
Kek

>> No.6384369

>>6384232

I think a more ethical in-between is to have a model trained off of consenting artists' work, then split with that artist any profits that might be made if your game actually sells. It can be just a single person from what I understand, and I'm not sure if they body of work used to train etc needs to be that big. Creating custom models or using consenting work doesn't seem too difficult from what I'm seeing.

AI art is incredible and I think a lot of artists in these threads underestimate how big a deal the speed increase is. However they're not wrong when it comes to copyright/identity related arguments.

>> No.6384375

>>6384369
good luck tracing what works were used on what models.

Artists and Programers are getting fucked, and some of them don't even realize it. Everyone else protects and profit from this stupid thing called "copyright" (music industry, monsanto, hollywood etc) .

>>6384232
im poor, I will pirate your magnus opus .

>> No.6384380

>>6384356
It’s not high budget art. Just look how fucking shit it looks on OP.
>>6384349
>You should collaborate with artist
Did you even read my fucking post? I use it only for prototypes and for quick one-offs. Once I decide to make some bigger game that I will actually advertise, i will find artist that will work on aspects I struggle with. The unresponsive mess of AI and how generic it is is a real issue if you actually want to use it for more then pinups. I asked some friend to sketch me a boss based on my description in his style, his drawing looked exactly like mine I did month before. After that AI art started taking over and I tried to do the same there. After spending all credits on 7 accounts on Midjurney and downloading every version of SD to then experiment on, my experiment was finished. To this day I was not able to recreate the image that my friend drew in 5 minutes.

Also, yes, I will continue making shitty immoral games, like all game devs do.. do you know why? Not because I hate artists (I am one), but because I need to train. Making long deeply thought out projects takes too much time for being just a learning exercise. You just draw single pictures, so you can draw many of them in shorter amount of time. Very simple 2D platformer that is not trying to look like NES game with 4 colours and massive pixels takes around month to make, average picture digital artists make takes about couple of hours if they are experienced based on art streams I watch, so you have more freedom to practice on making full package final product pieces, while we either have to catch lightning in the bottle on the first or second try, or just shit out tons of small shitty games nobody will play or like.

>> No.6384382

>>6384369
Most of these training games are not being sold. They are for free on itch.io, and if the game somehow blows up, then making update with artist collaboration or by doing it yourself is very likely.

>> No.6384387

>>6379633
I mean you have to have mental retardation to think thats not possible

Even more retarded to think its gonna take more than 20 years to develop something like that

I always cringe when clueless actual low IQ people call other people dumb

>AI IS NEVER GONNA DO THAT YOURE DUMB

It just is, step by step

>> No.6384388

>>6380312
Of course you and that other retard actually know how things work

Remember when you were saying A.I art looked awful 2 months ago

Now theres A.I art threads in every single board

Imagine things happen, If you want to confirm IQ is decreaseing look at yourself in the mirror

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>>6384388
>2 months
first AI art posts I remember are from like 7 years ago.

>> No.6384393

>>6384387
This is actually retarded you literally have no idea what you're talking about I'm not even saying that ai couldn't ever do that shit but stuff sd and copilot will never stop getting your information from youtube and reddit and take a warm bath or something
>>6384388
Like ai spam on every board doesn't mean what you think it does go outside

>> No.6384399

>>6384393
>Like ai spam on every board
HAHAHAHA

"Spam", lmao, people who like art... are creating A.I art

Inside of your brain I guess "annoying spammers are spamming A.I creations"

No, people are just sharing art they enjoy, lol like they always have, you absolute clueless retard

>> No.6384400

>>6384393
>>6384399

>Those A.I art threads are just... spams and annoying and everyone hates them!

>GO OUTSIDE EVERYONE HATES A.I ART

Hahahah, In what alternate reality do you live in you absolute down syndrome person

>> No.6384402

>>6384399
> people who like art... are creating A.I art

No, those are either commers, or "prompt engineers".

People who likes art makes art.

>> No.6384404

>>6384402
People who likes art create A.I art images

Before A.I art was a thing people just made regular art threads in every board

I honestly hope you touch grass

>> No.6384407

>Nooo people enjoying A.I art?
>That cant be its not real art

God this is fucking hilarious

>> No.6384410

>6384399
>6384400
>6384404
>6384407
You are a bot so you'll get no further engagement from me however it is spam because in most cases it is unwelcome and only ever barely related to the board its posted if at all case and point i guess

>> No.6384411

>>6384407
hilarious is that you insist to tag art an automated plagiarism procedure that anyone can follow.

you will never be an artist.

>> No.6384416

>>6384410
>Ill just leave the converstion and delude myself I won the argument

You do you I guess

Also its not spam since its welcomed and people literally create A.I art threads in most boards

It is very welcomed and Idk what definition of spam you have, things you have an irrational vendeta agaisnt? I guess

People post images they like on an image board, woah

>> No.6384420

>>6384411
Youre actually clueless and dont actually know how A.I works

You think you do yet you dont, youre the definition of a massive retard

>> No.6384422

can't speak for others obviously, but personally as a hobbyist, i can't stand it when people post ai art outside of ai threads and filter out all of it when i can. i dislike ai art on principle no matter if it looks good or not. i know i've seen anons on other boards share this sentiment.
...nor do i really feel that pro-ai channers care much about art or artists beyond a very superficial level, or else they wouldn't be supporting a tool that can be used as a replacement for the artists that provided the materials for their "regular art threads".

>> No.6384423

>>6384402
AI "artists" frequently admit that they only got interested in being an artist after midjourney came out.

>>6384404
People who like dnd and anime garbage make AI "art" and also people who don't have any work ethic to actually learn something.

>> No.6384424

6384420

YWNBAA

>> No.6384427

>>6379633
>>6384393
Ill close with this

What the retard said is true, A.I will be able to create the art, the script, the programing etc for a game in the near future (10-20) years

>Omg how could you say that thats impossible youre low IQ

It is correct and probably aviable in the near the future

Youre basically calling someone dumb for saying 2 + 2 = 4 LOL

I mean there will be prompters, an "user" to command whatever the A.I does but you get the idea

I guess you dont since youre actually retarded

>> No.6384430

>>6384423
I dont actually care about your seething

People like art, A.I art is art, thats really it

>> No.6384434

>>6384420
Nice gaslighting

>>6384422
They don't care that they're ruining art communities or that they are accelerating the replacement of creative jobs. It's all greed, the tools seem like magic to them and they are having delusions of grandeur about making their own magnum opus with a click of a button.

>> No.6384435

>>6384430
Just like how transwomen are women.

>> No.6384437

>>6384430
People don't like AI art, AI art is not art, that's really it

I don't actually care about your seething about gatekeeping

>> No.6384439

>>6384422
>>6384435
Mate, people love A.I art

It is literal art

Those "superficial" people who enjoy art in a superficial way... are the 99%

And guess what, they are the same people paying for your shit and everything art related

Oh NOW you realize people are superficial? wow lol

>> No.6384441

>>6384437
>eople don't like AI art, AI art is not art,

Except they do, just take a second to touch grass

Idk in what alternate reality youre living, maybe the one thats 5 months behind and A.I still looks like shit?

LOL

>> No.6384443

Idk why these "artists" seethe so much when confronted with the truth

>I dont like A.I art

Thats ok bro, the rest of the world doesnt care

Im doing you a favor by telling you this absolute truth, that you in the first place should already be aware of

>> No.6384444

>>6384439
>And guess what, they are the same people paying for your shit and everything art related

And those superficial people have always given money to artists

They basically paid for your living

>> No.6384452

>>6384439
And people for some reason like trans women.

Is kinda sick if you think about it, liking someone that wants to cut their testicles and throw it into a dumpster.

>> No.6384457

>>6379622
>>6384427

This story is part two in the story Sorceress. Make sure to read the story from the first part and continue chronologically. This story also contains graphic descriptions of sexual acts and unusual settings. If you are a person who dislikes NBM (natural body magic) fetishes, then stop reading and leave for your own good.
Thank you.

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>>6384439
>It is literal art

No.

>> No.6384471

>>6384443
> the rest of the world doesnt care
what schizo land do you live in lol

>> No.6384476

>>6384452
Youre with the bunch of feminists retards that say men cant look at women in any particular way

or get outraged fucking people are enjoying art

Honestly I always cringe when some sperg just starts sperging to an A.I image when everyone just enjoying the art

>> No.6384477

>>6384458
KEK if we use that definition then A.I is definitely creating art

>> No.6384490

>>6384477
Please elaborate

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>>6384427
>>6379622
>>6379639
>>6379640
Reminder to all singularity troglodites that Dall-E was developed 2 years ago and was able to do low res photorealistic images even back then with little development being made. Here are the examples of it.
The reason people think it improved so much was because only OpenAI employees had access to this thing to play with, the rest of us was in darkness about it. The fake story is that Dall-E mini was the best AI developed 6 months ago where every image looked like ugly blob and where faces were deliberately censored, then SD came in where it trained on dataset too wide, so it struggled with anime faces, and then finally came the NovelAI, and all other AIs also developed into perfection month and a half ago and ever since it was over. And yet people don't realize that we are still using the same model, the same logic and the same tech for the image generation, just with different datasets and different levels of learning. Only new significant system that came in ever since 2021 was the Dreambooth system which allowed us to use the same character in multiple settings, and it still requires 3-20 images to learn it properly, and fucks up when it has just 1 image.

For replacing 3D artists we have one system made by NVIDIA. Their model uses 3 different images from angles front, back and side to then create the 3D object from. I dont know how it is able to reliably make 3 same images from different angles, but it somehow can. Maybe that is the reason why the current 3D models are so blurry and soft, to hide all the differences between the images. The point however is that scaling it to higher resolutions will be extremly hard, we already have upscaler, but this upscaler needs to upscale 3 images in the same way at the same time, or else you will get fuckton of artefacts.

>> No.6384497

>>6384496
For replacing writers the AI needs to be able to remember context of the story and follow the story for many many pages without forgetting anything and being consistent. All textbots struggle with that and have been struggling since 2019. Without this, not even coding can be done by AI, all it will be able to do is small snippets of code that human is directing. Once AI learns how to do that, it will replace not just writers and programmers, but also lower tier researchers, lawyers, judges, lawmakers, managers, CEOs and basically everybody who can be replaced by box where text goes in, and text goes out, any kind of text.

For replacing designers you will need the AI not to just learn good looking designs, but also remember how to make sure the clothing for example fits on the person, and if it is comfortable, or how to catch attention of person with poster it makes to make sure all the info on that poster is perfectly visible and conveys all the information. Once you make system that can train AIs to learn maximizing utility in design and to make sure the design also is stable and does not break apart, then you also replaced all the architects, engineers, city planners, inventors and so on since you could just make sure that instead of maximizing comfort, it maximizes stability with best aerobatics. Boom, you replaced aerospace engineer.

And finally, if you make AI that is able to teach people by inventing challenging puzzles and questions to test you on subjects that people haven't made tests about yet. If you manage to tech AI how to teach people on new subjects, then you basically created completely self learning AI and achieved the AI endgame, the AGI.

>> No.6384500

>>6384497
Now, the current versions of AI we have only know how to look for objects really. You tell them prompts to look for, it will look for it trough noise and then make derivatives based that look close enough, do it over and over, then upscale it and you have AI picture.
Now to make a game, you need to make the story, need AI to learn the context to think of game mechanics that fit in. Then you have to make the levels, optimizing for making them fun and playable, and finally to create some interesting game mechanic, it will need to learn how to make problems, and then solve them, and then teach the player how to solve them in ways to not make it too obvious and unfun. Once the AI can do all of these things, it will then need to playtest the brand new game (Something AIs still struggle now with since they have to learn from the start basically) and then present it to you on silver platter once you put there your prompts, only for you to realize after 2 hours of playing the game that it is not something you wanted, so you let it generate new seed, new game, and then you find out again that it is not something you 100% wanted, or that it ignored some prompts you made, or that it made come artefact in game design and now you are softlocked. It only takes 0.5 seconds to see if the image is something you wanted, it only takes 3 minutes to see if the music you listened to is something you wanted to generate, and it only takes 30 minutes to see if the movie/book/game is something you wanted to generate.

Basically, just because AI can make pretty images by randomly combining the words you told it, or because it can make funny greentext stories does not mean it can replace even just third of creative jobs, and if it does, many other jobs will come with it. Reminder that these image generators were just offshoot of object detection technology required for self driving cars and flexible factory robots that Google and Tesla are working on.

>> No.6384529

>>6384497
>For replacing writers the AI needs to be able to remember context of the story and follow the story for many many pages

I mean theres no way in hell youre actually so retarded you think A.I will never be able to do this?

Youre with the bunch of people who went from saying A.I looks like shit to wanting to ban it because?

A.I evolves, is this concept even remotely inside of your brain?

I always see this argument, A.I cant do that now, well it will be able to, give it a few months/years

>> No.6384531

A.I is simply intelligence

You know what allowed great masters to develop themselves to such extends? A brain

A.I is the encapsulation of the neocortex

That means everything we do/think, A.I will be able to do bettter

Theres really no need to seethe about this truth

>> No.6384537

Also theres always a spergy faggot crying about A.I or feeling repulsed towards it when someone posts it on other boards

While the rest of the people enjoy the art being presented, you sperg and cry about A.I

Nobody wants to hear what you think about A.I

Everyone just wants to look at a pretty image

You stupid retard, kill yourself 99% doesnt care

>> No.6384544

>>6384500
>just because AI can make pretty images by randomly combining the words you told it, does not mean it can replace even just third of creative jobs
Well, at least artists are really easy to replace, since it’s a really low tier “job”, it’s good to start with them.

I remember when AI images were posted a few weeks ago and people were complaining, now everyone forgot about it and are absolutely loving AI art, there are so many posts with thousands of likes.

>> No.6384549

is this reddit spacing schizo ok

>> No.6384551

>>6384531
Have you seen ghost in the shell?

>> No.6384553

Don't reply to shitty bait.

>> No.6384561

>>6384529
My argument is that it will also replace many other jobs at the same time. Remembering context for many pages is a huge deal. AI can already write short essays on topics and even explain problems it problem-solves with 90+% accuracy. Lawyers and scientists will get assfucked by this when it learns how to do this.

>> No.6384567

>>6384561
>Lawyers and scientists will get assfucked
An AI can't represent you in court, retard

>> No.6384568

>>6384529
let me guess, 2 more weeks? hahahaha

>> No.6384569

>>6384567
Who says it won’t in the future? Who says there will even need to be somebody presenting arguments. Instead of debate, why not let the AI decide the whole court, just input evidence, output verdict. There can be always somebody who will read it trough to check if the AI is indeed correct, same way you could go to higher court if you think the judge is unjust or the AI is corrupt. It would be great way to make the judistical system free of prejudice, biases and allow poor people to get the same high quality treatment like the rich folks. Of course there will be 1 year gap to foolproof the system and avoid AI racism, but that’s about it.

>> No.6384571

>>6384529
let me guess, 2 more weeks? hahahaha

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>>6383924
Bye bye concept artist. No more man-made head aches and Jews.

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>>6379732
Yet Black Souls is the sovliest game around

>> No.6384584

>>6384568
>>6384571
>ebin /pol/tard meme
Every two weeks you've been shitting your pants. It was just two years ago you said AI would never into art. So yes only two more weeks for your next bowel movement.

>> No.6384586

>>6384580
Is this MidJourney?

>> No.6384587

"Artificial intelligence is not, by definition, simulation of human intelligence."
- John McCarthy (the guy who coined the term AI)

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>>6384586
SD

>> No.6384591

>>6384589
these are much less impressive
still, model/prompt?

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>>6384591
Just getting them off of /SDG/. Some people even using their mega prompts with chink modules for good crowd renders

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>>6384595
eh. i've made better

>> No.6384601

I swear /ic/ is the only place that actually still promoting A.I art stuff. No one gives a fuck about it anymore outside of this bubble. Plebs can use whatever they like but they are not gonna get clouts like the early days.

>> No.6384604

>>6384529
>A.I evolves, is this concept even remotely inside of your brain?
Great way to miss the entire fucking point. The argument was that the AI develops slower then you guys proclaim. It is the same method used for 2 years. Only significant breakthrough in the meantime was Dreambooth. The reason those images kept improving was because of adding extra params and because the models were using different training data. But I guess you are just a moron who thinks it’s magic impossible to understand, so you just assume it’s going to grow exponentially like every tech progressed so far, going beyond every currently known limitations like the need for human curator or the fact that couple of prompts will not give you the game you desire unless you give it 3 pages worth of them.
>>6384580
>Doesn’t know what conceptart is
Ok, now generate me 3 armor sets that the player character will wear. One is cheap leather armor, the other one is scale armor made from goromite lizards, and the last one is deathsteel made from alloy of souls of bosses and iron chunks. Also, could you also make me 3 goromite concepts? Make sure each goromite design also has the stone and swamp variant, so in total 9 goromite concepts. Hope you can do this, right?

>> No.6384605

>>6378916
>>as if finding a job in the gaming industry wasn't hard enough already

Anon, Indie is not industry. Also, this indie market is already garbage with asset flip Unity "games".

>> No.6384606
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>>6384596
Lacks grace, delicacy, and best color scheme. Too westoid to have feel.

>> No.6384609

>>6384569
People will notice that it disproportionately convicts minorities and decide it's racist

>> No.6384611

>>6384232
I get it bro
If it's for that honestly I don't care, you're right to use it, we know you're only doing this because u have no other choice, unlike these faggots who try to pass it as some grandiose art form

>> No.6384612

>>6384609
You didn’t read. I said 1 year transition where it trains based on real courts and gives in potential predictions. If it is too racist, they will have 1 year to make it more liberal. Also elites will still cheat the system anyway.

>> No.6384615
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Midjourney V4 is an utter rape machine. Even I kneel at this point.

>> No.6384617

>>6384615
until you zoom in on anything and it falls apart. it does look cool but it's unusable for anything.

>> No.6384620

>>6384617
STOP NOTICING THINGS STOP NOTICING THINGS STOP NOTICING THINGS STOP NOTICING THINGS STOP NOTICING THINGS STOP NOTICING THINGS YWNBAA YWNBAA YWNBAA YWNBAA YWNBAA YWNBAA YWNBAA

>> No.6384622
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Remember

>> No.6384625
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>>6384617
I zoomed

>> No.6384627

>>6384625
Post his hands

>> No.6384628
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>>6384625
ah hell naw was my man bats a reptilian all along?

>> No.6384631
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>>6384627

>> No.6384632

DO NOT REVERSE IMAGE SEARCH THIS ONE AAAAAIEEEEEEE

>> No.6384642

>>6384631
What part of "post his hands" don't you understand?

>> No.6384644

Indie used to be something represent creativity and hardwork inspite of the low budget. And nowadays it represent laziness and uncreativity.

>> No.6384645
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>>6384642

>> No.6384651

>>6384631
but can you make one where the feet aren't the wrong way around?

>> No.6384724

>>6378925
When will AI generated humans appear?
Wait....

>> No.6384735
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6384735

>>6384606
better than animeshit

>> No.6384760

>>6380866
He doesn't need to post his work to a technerd.

>> No.6384761

>>6384735
>>better than animeshit
>>posted an A.I tranny with maggots as hair

Good morning, sir!

>> No.6384798

>artfaggots seething
Good.

>> No.6384829

>>6384761
>she doesn't look like a child, hence she's a tranny!!
i apologize, anon, but i'm not a pedophile

>> No.6384830
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>>6384798
Says the subhuman group who is being forgotten because they have no skills. Repent, street shitter. Repent.

>> No.6384831

>>6384798
Your job is next, Punjab

>> No.6384832

>>6384829
Who cares? I say that A.I turd looks like a tranny, then it is a tranny. It has no human artist, so i can claim whatever the fuck i want, Pajeet.

>> No.6384835

>>6384798
Good evening, sir!

>> No.6384837

>>6384798
SIR DO NOT REDEEM

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>>6384622
>>6384830
>Go on Pixiv
>Press random tag on some picture
>Scroll trough tag to fin 3 days old works that people had already seen and had time to react to
>Mfw AI still killing the numbers on most pictures

>> No.6384861

>>6384829
She looks masculine, though, there are countless ways of making a realistic adult woman that doesn’t look a tranny. Also, don’t use NovelAI if you hate anime, this turned out as a western anime.

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>>6384848
Nice misinformation, Pajeet

>> No.6384875

>>6384861
>>there are countless ways of making a realistic adult woman that doesn’t look a tranny

A robot drawn it, anon. It can only make trannies or abominations because it has no proper conservative human conciousness.

>> No.6384881

>>6384870
Not him, but AI is doing really well, I jus wonder if it’s mostly AI users liking each other’s posts, but they do have a much better star as newer accounts of human art.

Older accounts full of followers won’t be affected by AI, though.

>> No.6384896

>>6384881
AI art is the new NFT scam. I don't deny there's an audience for AI content but the cuhrayzee numbers rolling down out of thin air are likely artificial (no pun intended).

Pixiv really shot themselves in the cheek by not taking a harder stance on AI like Newgrounds and others.

>> No.6384910

>>6384537
>99% of people are soulless NPCs who are fine with consuming soulless AI content
Suddenly Klaus Schwab doesn't seem too crazy of a guy.

>> No.6384918

>>6384896
>>the cuhrayzee numbers rolling down out of thin air are likely artificial

Bookmark system really depends on the popular tag rather than the quality. Pixiv, no matter what people say, it is not dying. It is still one of the most crowded art site on internet.

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>>6384861
>She looks masculine
I don't know what kind of expectations you have, anon, but she's obviously not masculine. I wouldn't call her hyper-feminine, either, but masculine is a stretch. She looks like an adult woman.
>Also, don’t use NovelAI if you hate anime, this turned out as a western anime.
But that's exactly why I like it. Plus, the NAI tagging system works much better at generating characters than default Stable Diffusion

>> No.6384935

>>6384925
>>He posted another tranny

>> No.6384938

>>6384935
I'm sorry that you can't deal with the fact that real women don't look like underage anime girls, anon

>> No.6384943
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>>6384938
>>I'm sorry that you can't deal with the fact that real women don't look like underage anime girls, anon

And they certaintly don't look like man with estrogen overloaded.

>> No.6384949

>>6384943
He likes strong, tough, huge, brute, rustic women, that’s ok.

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>>6384949

>> No.6385202

>>6384943
I think Bouguereau has a better understanding of what women look like than you, anon.

>> No.6385209

>>6385202
Booger roo is not evident in the your image. Not even a hint. Maybe you spelt his name wrong.

>> No.6385261

>>6384848
>200 likes and 2000 views in a couple days
>killing the numbers
You AIfags are pathetically desperate. Your average amateur artist does has numbers like that on pixiv. I just checked that AI_tan's patreon and gumroad, there are literally no takers and he's just spamming submissions.

>> No.6385277

>>6379622
I'm convinced Halo 2 was already the first AI title.

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>>6384896
>>6384918
THE AI is doing pretty well but people using it and AI market condition are not.
The numbers are dwindling because AI artists are killing each other by flooding the tags effectively killing the reach. I remember getting around 10k views in two days easily on Pixiv with my AI account at October, now it's about 4k to 5k even with much better quality image because of custom models and will probably drop again because the character popularity is getting lower day by day.
It's not helping new character like pic related is almost impossible to generate unless you train the the embedding, at that point, it's already too late because i need about 50 good fanart of it and people already bored of her when it's done.
/hdg/ and /g/ is getting a lot slower too compared to the NAI leak days. AI is clearly dwindling even with them releasing a lot better quality and diverse models, but i think it won't die, it'll become a niche community like Digital Imaging community

>> No.6386137

>>6384388
>Now theres A.I art threads in every single board
yes, I wish it would stop ruining every board I browse. I'm not an artist, I'm here because of you filthy ni/g/gers. tech bugmen need to be reminded that they're the scum of humanity, not "progress"

>> No.6386138

>>6386137
based nodraw fighting the good fight

>> No.6386145 [DELETED] 

>>6386138
I really really hate these fucking bugmen, anon. and not just when it comes to AI art. whenever I see one of these pathetic zoomers worshiping Musk for wanting to plant chips in your brains that will make us live in a virtual reality, I feel nothing than pure revulsion. and they're usually the same people. it made me hate Indians too over the years. they're all nothing more than hordes of filthy scammers who try to trick humanity and ruin everything they touch under the guise of progress.

>> No.6386146

>>6386138
I really really hate these fucking bugmen, anon. and not just when it comes to AI art. whenever I see these pathetic zoomers worshiping Musk for wanting to plant chips in our brains, which will make us live in virtual realities, I feel nothing than pure revulsion. and they're usually the same people who shill for this AI generated garbage. it made me hate Indians too over the years. they're all nothing more than hordes of filthy scammers who try to trick humanity and ruin everything they touch under the guise of progress.

>> No.6386206

>>6386146
They're the same ones who whined about the addition of "A" to STEM and are now the ones trying to be a part of the "A" because they can write a bunch of keywords. One of them had never even heard of shit like impasto.

>> No.6386219

>>6384496
To add ot this. GPT-3 when it came out in May 2020 was able to generate images fine. It's been memory holed now cant find the article but it happened. It generated a few fantasy scenes.

>> No.6386345

>>6378992
holy fuck lurk before you post retard.

>> No.6386387

>>6378929
Literally the opposite would happen. It would kill big studios that lose their advantage over indies. It will switch to a model like book publishing.

>> No.6386450

>>6386387
No. Indie already lost its power due to how lazy it has been with asset flip + 30 minutes waking simulator . This A.I usage is salt to the wound.

>> No.6386467

>>6386450
>waking simulator
It’s not a game, it’s an experience!

Man, I hate most indie games.

>> No.6386472
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>>6386467
Walking simulator is tolerable when it atleast has original visual. Indiegames however, mostly are walking simulator + asset flip. They bought bunch of cheap to free to use assets then put them into a barebone tech demo.

And now we are having "It's an experience" crap like these. A.I generated script, A.I generated illustrations. And on top of that, they belong to a semi-visual novel walking simulator hybrid. This is insulting.

>> No.6387227

AI will win the video game awards and it will be a fantastic day over at /v/

>> No.6387463

>>6387227
It might be possible for an A.I infested turd to win best indie game. However, awards nowadays are jokes.

>> No.6387548

>>6378984
thats why you have to let her sign a contract that obligates her to work for you until you are finished anon, she has to be legally bound like the woman she is.

>> No.6387569

>>6387548
wont hold up in court.

>> No.6387657

>>6387569
if the contract is made by a professional notary it will

>> No.6387663

>>6387657
I mean that it wont help the sexual assault/internet rape charge.

>> No.6388019

>>6387227
/v/ doesn't like to talk about video games

>> No.6388399

>>6378925
Until the AI AI generator comes out.
Then you prompt and AI, and the AI will create the AI you need.

>>6378929
>AI is not here to help the common man.
You are right.
The common man has nothing in their head.

We are entering the age of imagination, the visionaries will rise up.
Those incapable of outputting their dreams(or even having dreams), will have to consume what others dream off.

>> No.6388408

>>6384423
>people who don't have any work ethic to actually learn something.
Why lose time learning when I can use tools to create?
The age of information is over. Learning isn't going to give you more.

>> No.6388473
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>orc game
you'd think VNs would be the best for ai art

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>even one of our own is using ai artwork to sell their game
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1547010/NEET/
art bros... why did he betray us...?

>> No.6388529

>>6388524
When it comes out, buy it, refund it and leave an ai generated negative review.

>> No.6388540

>>6388473
>kirijou mitsuru
The only thing it got right was the red hair

>> No.6388580
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6388580

>>6388540
red is good haircolor

>> No.6388634

>>6384392
Do models like your pic still exist? Speaking as an animator, the only AI models I’m interested in using for art are the ones that have fucked up artifacts like hundreds of eyes or fingers growing out of a mass of more fingers.
Show me some Akira looking bullshit on steroids, something actually incomprehensible until it’s right in front of me.

>> No.6388637

>>6388473
On contrary to what many people think, i, as a coomer, only interest in actual soulful, human made coom art. A.I can only make hideous deforminites, which to no one's surprises, its first videogames are about orcs, worms and lovecraftian.

>> No.6388707
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>>6388637
rude

>> No.6389170

>>6384760
I draw commissions every now and then, I'm not a tech guy