Have you noticed any changes?

[Anonymous No.6367635]

It has been 5 months or 6 since AI became a thing in everyone's mouth with DALL-E mini and personally (as someone who consooms art and is not an artist) I haven't noticed a lot of changes in the art community, even when AIs like StableDiffusion have fixed most of its problems in less than 2 months.
Every artist I follow keeps receiving commissions and closing in minutes, they keep earning thousands on Patreon and the engagement has been pretty much the same as how things were a year ago, if not better.
I have noticed most artists I follow started to only post their work on Twitter while abandoning pages like Pixiv, FurAffinity, eHentai and other ones we all know due to the immense amount of spam that's in there, heck, even I as a consoomer I stopped using Pixiv, it became an unsearchble sea of untagged mess and I can't fucking jerk off anymore without digging like crazy for 5+ minutes in order to find the shit I actually like and not a sea of deformed victorian smug sluts.

If you ask me I feel AI is not going to affect freelancing in a lot of ways, however, when it comes to work in the industry I can say I've already seen some changes, like the use of AI for voice acting or AI used to design prints for shirts to be massproduced.
How do you see things? We're close to the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.6367652]

>>6367635
I think art is more than just a consumable product. As far as I know, there are folks who commission artists simply because they like them and want to support them. That's why artists make money off of things like Patron and Kofi-- even if their subscribers don't exactly receive any custom product. Maybe the AI art community will get to that level once things kinda fizzle out. The communities, however, will remain separate because with drawn art there is an appreciation to the craftsmanship, whereas there is nothing more than wondering what "prompts" you gotta plug into a software. For now we all kinda see that as devaluing the end result.

[Anonymous No.6367663]

Everyone hate "AI" even some coomer. There are hidden admiration for artists beside porn addict. It is the same as photo editors copy and paste multiple picture into one and people angry if they got caught, except AI do it faster but worse

[Anonymous No.6367666]

>>6367663
Calling out tracers in the world of online artist has been a thing for ages, but of course people using image generators know nothing of this, so they just think they're being "gatekept" by "luddites," or whatever phrase of the month the business team at StabilityAI has decided to feed them

[Anonymous No.6367667]

>>6367663
That said, you should worry about legal issues in future. AI is sponsored by Jews and they desperately collect art styles all over the world to copyright AI styles.
In the future, glow niggers will raid your house because you draw. This is how they kill art.

[Anonymous No.6367688]

>>6367635
The only thing honestly noticable with AI is the ungodly amount of spam, like some tards on pixiv will post basically the same image with the girls deformed hand moved like 2inches and post it again.

[Anonymous No.6367696]

FYI the leader and one of the founders of LAION, Christoph Schuhmann, is a disciple of a Jewish "educator" who pushes a teaching method which aims to turn students into a heard of barely educated, "everybody is equal~," commie hippie smoothbrains ("Students are free to decide if they want to attend classes or spend their time on other activities such as music, sports, art, computers, reading, talking, socializing, or doing nothing at all.")

Said Israeli "educator"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaacov_Hecht
YouTube page of "Schools of Trust," a documentary by one of the founders of LAION (note the video Featuring Mr. Hecht)
https://www.youtube.com/c/SchuleDesLebens

[Anonymous No.6367699]

>>6367635
I've seen a butt load of spam on Deviantart, Twitter, and Pixiv but the actual artists are going about their business as normal.

[Anonymous No.6367702]

>>6367696
So yes, the point of this is to devalue individual effort insomuch as it benefits yourself; your goal is to be part of "the community" which itself will become lazy and therefore easily controlled.

[Anonymous No.6367752]

>>6367702
I will stick to "copyright" artstyle theory since people always desire art made by human no matter how advance tech are, like camera can't replace pencil portrait.
Jews already copyrighted colors.

[Anonymous No.6368475]

>>6367752
>Jews already copyrighted colors.
I'm pretty sure these colours are only copyrighted for a very specific set of circumstances though, like a telecommunications company trying to use t-mobile's exact shade of purple or a logistics company trying to use UPS's exact shade of brown for their branding, which kind of makes sense imo. There hasn't really been any legal issues over this apart from competitors to these companies intentionally trying to cause confusion between 2 different products with their colours

To just say that jews have copyrighted colours is pretty misleading

[Anonymous No.6369331]

>>6367635
THERE ARE 12 THREADS ABOUT AI UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THERE ARE 19 THREADS ABOUT ELON MUSK OR HOW TO GET POPULAR ON TWITTER UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 31 THREADS ABOUT 2 TOPICS

31

THIRTY-MOTHERFUCKING-ONE

XXXI

三十一

THREADS ABOUT AI:

>>6369226
>>6369059
>>6368525
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6367116
>>6367012
>>6366171
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6363640
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT PIXIV NUMBERS)
>>6357746
>>6357600


THREADS ABOUT NUMBERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA:

>>6369247
>>6368281
>>6367700
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6367438
>>6367280
>>6366264
>>6365807
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6364522
>>6364246
>>6363872
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6362405
>>6360135
>>6356821
>>6356353
>>6348891

[Anonymous No.6369359]

>I can't fucking jerk off anymore without digging like crazy for 5+ minutes in order to find the shit I actually like and not a sea of deformed victorian smug sluts.
WTF I LOVE AI NOW! DEATH TO /a/ CUMBRAINS

[Anonymous No.6369362]

>>6367635
Freelancers are going to be fine, traditional artists will be completely unaffected. It's the top ten percent who is likely to be the most affected by it, which imo is a good thing. It levels the playing field for artists like us who haven't "made it" yet, whatever that even means

[Anonymous No.6369375]

>>6369331
lmao

[Anonymous No.6369560]

is someone is dumb enough to pay for art is too dumb to use an AI
you are safe at least for this generation

[Anonymous No.6369590]

>>6369560
Most online commission artists are cheap enough that whatever they charge isn't really going to turn people off from paying, even if there is a free alternative. Sure, maybe the absolute dogshit artists might lose out, but anybody who can manage to generate a following probably has enough special to bring to the table that people will still want to pay for the value of having them create something unique in their actual style as opposed to spending their time fiddling around to get a janky, machine-made knockoff.
Hell, owning older physical game cartridges and discs add nothing to the experience over just using an Everdrive or ODE, yet prices on old games seem to just keep going up, and people still brag about owning physical carts of games which everybody's been able to download for free for 20+ years.

[Anonymous No.6369595]

>>6369590
I won't show you my pussy unless you play along coom boi teeehee

[Anonymous No.6369597]

>>6369595
What?

[Anonymous No.6369604]

>>6369595
wow this is so good

[Anonymous No.6369630]

>>6367635
I'm mostly curious to know what professional concept artists and illustrators have to say.

[Anonymous No.6369719]

>>6369630
They even before the AI did photobashing, tracing and so on. Their opinion doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.6369724]

>>6369630
They even before the AI did photobashing, tracing and so on, their opinion is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.6369751]

>>6367635
The software still either requires some technical knowledge to set up, or you have to pay for it. There needs to be a truly free and zero-effort solution in order for normies to take notice. Which there will be, eventually.
Honestly you should give it a few years before you start evaluating the long term impacts on the art market.

[Anonymous No.6369782]

>>6367635
>as someone who consooms art and is not an artist
why are you on an artwork critique board then?

[Anonymous No.6371706]

>>6369595
prompt?

[Anonymous No.6371867]

>>6367635
I had a decent following but deleted my online presence about 2 years ago because I wanted to privately enter the industry (got sick of the internet, constant data tracking, artist culture online and constant public drama anytime I logged on to social media) so I came here to see what people were saying after picking up info on the dA shit that just happened.
To be honest, I agree with this post. It feels like a lot of people are really freaked out about the AI stuff and it feels like an overreaction to me, at least in it's current state.
I get it, obviously I dislike it too, but putting the ethics aspect aside, why are people acting like art is officially over? The thing just spits out the same image over and over again. There's literally nothing interesting about a single thing churned out by it, and there's always major, glaring errors to boot. I feel like there's no audience for this thing outside of people who desperately want to feel like an artist, and maybe terminally online coomers with no standards at all.
You've kind of just confirmed those thoughts to me. On a large scale, people just don't give a shit about those images and they're just spam. People posting these will never be able to capture an audience the same way someone who draws can.
I don't think artists are overall going to be affected by this. Even as the technology "improves", or whatever people claim, it's actual utility is very limited. Drawing an image is more than just plopping a woman in front of a background. Composition, colors, general knowledge about layout and imagery is necessary to be able to create interesting art and from what I can see, its not something the AI can accurately do in any shape or form. Its why all the images look the same, it's missing so much of what actually goes in to making an image visually interesting.
(cont)

[Anonymous No.6371868]

>>6367635
>>6371867
Ironically, I think artists are the only people who could properly utilize the technology. Non artists don't know anything about the above things I just described, but artists do. They know how to make an image look good, or change errors, or could use these images to cut down time for plotting some basic stuff in a professional environment. But they also just don't really have any reason to, either.
So I'm not really understanding the degree of doom and gloom I see people spouting. I guess if you're /beg/ tier, yeah, it's probably discouraging to see this stuff. But for people like myself and others here who are above that level of skill, it can't make something better than you can make anyway.
Personally I think the technology will probably stagnate because of the limitations I already listed and fizzle out like NFTs did. I don't see why it won't. It's boring, can't actually make anything useful right now, there's no actual audience for it and that's without factoring in potential legal problems it might face from large corporations in the future.

[Anonymous No.6372714]

>>6367635
flavor of the month

[Anonymous No.6372731]

art, even coom art, is distinctly human and appreciated by other humans. We don't care if AI automates factory work, coding, and software engineering. (which it seems AI is already doing at lower levels) Humans don't want to see something as emotional or awe-inspiring completed by a souless robot trained on art that's been stolen from talented hard-working people like ourselves. Even if an artist can paint and create animations as good as Zone sama, we'll never respect and look at that piece of coom art the same, knowing it was hand crafted from Zone them-self. I'm convinced that AI art won't replace true creatives and true talent. Just as nobody wants to watch a robot streamer speed-runner on twitch, they want to watch a human. art, video games, music, and expression is made by humans to be enjoyed by other humans. I think these AI techbros are completely short-sided on where the true value of all this is.

Again, AI art is not art, it's stolen Frankenstein work trained on images taken without consent. I hope it's never used commercially and people refuse to pay or look at product produced by it. Prompters will be replaced too as GPT4 language models learn to capture general prompts from the datasets that prompters are feeding these machines

I still make 3k a month on patreon. People don't want souless robot machines, they want talent with a creative voice.

[Anonymous No.6372744]

>>6372731
keep crying

[Anonymous No.6373203]

>>6367696
Lmao, alright buddy. Back to /pol/ with you.

[Anonymous No.6373216]

>>6367635
>Abandoning furannity
i thought FA banned ai art?

[Anonymous No.6373220]

>>6367635
I think the spam flooding the galleries is the greatest problem.

[Anonymous No.6373248]

From my perspective, low level commissions will be harder to come by as the Ai improves.

We don't really know where the bottle-neck for this stuff is going to be, but as things are now, Ai is un-useable for the entertainment industry. my prediction is that when there are better and more accessible tools that integrate within an art program, i'm sure Ai will be widely used for backgrounds, props, starting off an image, etc. the whole 'press button to art' thing will remain as a toy, but there will be an increase in competition with the 'level' of beg / int artists portfolios being dramatically raised. clients don't care about the HOW of an image, just that it's done.

[Anonymous No.6373262]

>>6373248
>as things are now, Ai is un-useable for the entertainment industry
How do you know? I've seen claims of creative directors pitching a project to clients using AI generated art and not relying on concept artists

[Anonymous No.6373270]

>>6373262
>I've heard claims
I'm not the anon you're replying to but I'm actually in the industry and that is a lie lol. You should be more skeptical of AI enthusiasts claiming this kind of thing, it's still much faster to paint over 3D renders and photobash to create those concepts as clients will need specifics that AI can't generate so it makes no sense to do what you're claiming. Right now there is no utility in the professional field.

[Anonymous No.6373276]

>>6369595
why is this so uninteresting
its perfect yet there's no reason to look at it except looking for ai artifacts
>>6369560
why is this so interesting in comparison?

[Anonymous No.6373285]

>>6373276
>there's no reason to look at it except looking for ai artifacts
I never realized it before but that's instantly all my brain looks at when I see these pics, it's so distracting.

[Anonymous No.6373292]

>>6373270
No company will use it for now even fakers like chinks.
In my third world shit hole, there are thousand of cheap chink games/manga advertise everyday. They didn't hire any artists, all illustrations was done by a fews photoshopers, 5-10 mins for each illustration by editing multiple artworks altogether. Ai proomters do the same, maybe even longer time but with worse result.

[Anonymous No.6373315]

>>6369595
>why is this so uninteresting
Its all basic airbrushed lineart soullessly generated from descriptive keywords

[Anonymous No.6373589]

>>6373270
>>6373262

I AM the anon that you replied to, i guess other anons take is likely true, i probably work in a completely different industry (2D animation), but sure, i'd imagine the generic concept art / big titty fantasy chick will probably be getting Ai'd in some part of the process. personally haven't seen it being used for backgrounds or character designs in animation, since every design needed in the process needs to be way more specific for the need and intention of what the director / animator wants.

[Anonymous No.6373685]

>>6372744
>keep crying
>is making 36k a year off of patreon alone
>likely has other forms of revenue flowing in
Lmao, I'm sure he'll be homeless in 2 more weeks anon. I'm sure you'll swoop in with your AI garbage and take his place. 2 more weeks, right?

[Anonymous No.6373709]

>>6367635
If you don't draw, why are you here? Your opinions are useless

[Anonymous No.6374366]

>>6373589
I work in the video game industry as an art director and started out in 2D animation myself as I have a BA in 2D/3D animation. What part of the process would this kind of character being generated even be being used in? They're extremely generic and likely don't match the style of the studio/project. The maximum I'd ever think it could be used would be backgrounds, but as I said, it's still much faster to photobash and paint over 3D models, and it still can't generate many backgrounds properly. Best it can do is very simple things like water or grass but those are things that can be churned out by hand in 20-30 mins anyway so it doesn't actually have much use. There is no reason to use any of this in a professional setting right now so what the anon is saying is likely not true.

[Anonymous No.6374399]

>>6373262
>concept artists
They were almost using AI already. Mostly just photobashing of pictures they got from google image search. I don't feel bad about them being replaced at all, they brought it on themselves with the no-rules-just-tools, efficiency-above-all-else mentality.

[Anonymous No.6374413]

>>6367635
>Every artist I follow keeps receiving commissions and closing in minutes, they keep earning thousands on Patreon and the engagement has been pretty much the same as how things were a year ago, if not better.

Because unsurprisingly, AI art doesn't kill off your customer base. Only the artist themselves can do that. Everyone that went "My ART CAREER IS OVER!" Kneejerked like a mother fucker, used the fear for engagement, or already didn't have a career in the first place.


>>6373709
Anon, most people here don't draw. This board is full of crabs and people crying about how AI will take some job from them that they only had in their fantasies.

[Anonymous No.6375472]

The whole "AI will replace artists!" idea is interesting, but now that we're a few months in... it hasn't really materialized. AI will probably replace a lot of professional illustration jobs, yes. That is basically inevitable and already happening. But in terms of engagement on social media, no one seems to really give a shit.

There's a tsunami of Ai-generated images, but most of the engagement I see is still with actual painters and artists. Will this change? Possibly, but we're already so oversaturated with AI images that one would think such a change would have already happened, even if AI tools get better or more widely available. Even the most interesting AI art I see, like the guy who made the doll house-stage performer-plush-carneval aesthetic (which I will happily admit is cool as hell), got very little engagement with his promptwork. The only guy that seems to be doing okay is that Zaloran guy who just proompts big tiddy Victorian girl pinups all day.

At least, that's what I've seen. Even in the MidJourney Discord, people barely pay attention to what others are doing. In my entire time posting there, I've gotten basically no rates on any of my promptwork. The only posts that get significant engagement are the ones the devs pin on the channel dashboard. People seem to mainly use it for personal consumption.

Aside from that, the most engagement I see when AI art is posted is when people discuss it or criticize it, or when proompters do something particularly inflammatory (like run a famous artist's style through a training model). However, that may be entirely because my follows are so vehemently against AI art, but I do try to search AI art publicly for a better sense of how things are developing. AI art also gets a lot of engagement when it's comedic in nature, like Spiderman At McDonalds or similarly silly prompts. I think AI art comedy is potentially the most highly engaging content.

[Anonymous No.6375543]

>>6374399
Yeah I get that sentiment, hell just look at the stolen winter warfare dog character design in the latest Call of Duty

[Anonymous No.6375545]

>>6372731
People were saying literally the same about lace and now it's all factory made.

[Anonymous No.6375546]

>>6375545
I too have watched that YouTube video.

[Anonymous No.6375554]

If there’s been one major change, it’s that artists(and maybe I should speak for just myself from here on out) have been demoralized to the point of rock bottom, and now all that’s left is spite. Vicious, poisonous spite. It’s hard not to feel like I’m being the bad guy in certain ways. It’s been ages since I genuinely wished death and bodily harm upon an entire group of strangers out of some perception that they were making my life difficult, despite the fact that, nothing bad has happened to me yet as a direct consequence of their actions. I don’t even know if it’d fill me with glee to know that some AIcel an hero’d because of online hate or something, but SamdoesArts calling out one of them to his 2 million followers, and that person being overwhelmed with hate, made me happy. It’s an evil feeling, I see now that I’m not a good person for enjoying seeing that kind of harm done to others. It makes me almost as bad as the people celebrating my demise now that they can have all of the art with none of the skill.
But at the same time, that’s all that’ll be left if AI gets its way. Rabid spite. Because our dreams are being taken away from us. Unless you’ve already made it, you’re fucked, and if you’ve made it, you’ll be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life waiting for the other shoe to drop.
The biggest casualty in all of this is that I personally feel less motivated to draw unless it’s for work. My personal life and ability to be happy is being fucked with by these midwits larping as artists.
It’s anti-human, it’s anti-culture, none of it is right, and the majority of AI art is the worst expression of what the art world was.
My dream is dead and the only thing I can do about it is be spiteful and celebrate the fact that AIcels feel bullied occasionally. There’s a wound in the world and it’s fatal. The only thing that’ll be left is to rub salt in it.

[Anonymous No.6375560]

>>6375554

[Anonymous No.6375689]

>>6375554
AI NPCs are not human, so it's morally okay to hate them.

[Anonymous No.6375696]

>>6375554
strong men (artists) create good times (good art)
good times (good art) create weak men (consoomers)
weak men (consoomers) create bad times (ai art)
bad times (ai art) create strong men (butlerian jihadis)

[Anonymous No.6375742]

>>6375554
Which linkin park song are these lyrics from?

[Anonymous No.6375745]

/ic/ is like if /pol/ picked up a crayon

[Anonymous No.6375776]

>>6367635
It depends on your viewing point. Artists that are somewhat successful and already have at least a small following won't be affected but for someone like me who scraped by on a bunch of simple commissions (quantity over quality) the scene is absolutely dead, like I went from making like $200 to pocket change real fast.
Obviously that's because I'm not good enough for people to fork the extra cash, but AI will eventually catch up to the mid-tier artists and put them of a job.

[Anonymous No.6375853]

>>6367667
>they desperately collect art styles all over the world to copyright AI styles.

You can't copyright art styles, not even Disney.

[Anonymous No.6375858]

>>6367688
>The only thing honestly noticable with AI is the ungodly amount of spam

This is why so many subreddits banned AI art.

That's the only good thing that came out of Reddit.

Other art websites banned AI art too, but I don't know their reasons, probably spam too.

[Anonymous No.6375862]

I'm heaving a stroke trying to read these esl AI posts. But it seems like most people aren't worried about it since it only affects artists that have a messed up timescale for each piece. People who spend 10 hours on a fully rendered elf girl are the ones hurt the most by AI. Cartoonists and anime artists that tell a story are unaffected.

[Anonymous No.6375863]

>>6375853
Which is idiotic, because there is no reason style shouldn't be considered part of a personal brand. People don't think of nobody when you mention Cubism. People don't refer to H.R.Giger's art as anything besides "H.R.Giger's art".
The law is retarded. Distinctive enough art styles should absolutely be considered a copyright and intellectual property if we're in an age where AI can just be used to completely invalidate an artist's decades of training.

[Anonymous No.6375867]

>>6369630
>what professional concept artists and illustrators

>CONCEPT ARTISTS

They use every trick under the sun in their art from photobashing, and 3d models to tracing, collage, and whatever the fuck you can think of, including AI art, their goal is speed, not artistry.

>ILLUSTRATORS

They're fucked, AI art will anal prolapse them

>3D ANIMATORS

They're fucked, there's AI that create 3d animation already, tho they're basic shit.

>2D ANIMATORS

They're safe, not because current AI is bad, but because the way AI works isn't compatible with 2d animation, you'd need a new AI that actually works like a human artist instead of a super tracer photobasher 3000 that "learns" from their models, references.

>COMIC ARTISTS

They're safe, at least for now, the AI generated comics are garbage, and they need a lot of improvement.

[Anonymous No.6375883]

>>6371867
>I came here to see what people were saying after picking up info on the dA shit that just happened.

I'm out of the loop, what happened to DA?

[Anonymous No.6375884]

>>6375472
As you said, we're a few months in.
AIs at this point are at their baby stage and are guaranteed to get better.
Am an amateur game dev and, honestly, I would rather spend 2 weeks fine-tuning a model that will shit out a million pixel assets when I need them, than have to deal with an artist and the back and fourth I would have to go through to get a small number of assets to look the way I want them and, most importantly, at the price I want them.

As another anon said in one of these threads, random twitter/DA/Pixiv artists dont mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
What will decide the direction AI takes will be the big shot industries. Big animation, movies and game studios probably already have people internally working on getting these models to create things they can use.

The AIs are here, and they're not going to replace artists. They will replace us all.

[Anonymous No.6375890]

>>6371868
>hat's without factoring in potential legal problems it might face from large corporations in the future.

All you need for AI art to go extinct is for some geniuses to mess with Disney's revenue.

They have the influence, and power to essentially alter, or create copyright laws to make AI art illegal, and banned across the web.

[Anonymous No.6375898]

>>6372731
>I hope it's never used commercially

It already been used commercially in a few shitty websites, but most refuse to let you profit from AI art, too much potential legal trouble.

[Anonymous No.6375899]

>>6375890
Do you really believe that the studio shitting out the most consoomerist slop and infamous for running IPs they acquire like its an industrial pig farm, isn't the one most excited about AI art?
Big money studios and industries arent your friends, when will you learn this? They are the ones funding this shit because then, they either get to use the AIs, or they get cheaper labor because artists will take anything that pays the bills.

[Anonymous No.6375902]

>>6373216
>i thought FA banned ai art?

They did, but people are abandoning it for other reasons, too much spam, and too little engagement, FA is basically small artist Twitter before Musk

[Anonymous No.6375916]

>>6373276
>why is this so uninteresting
>its perfect yet there's no reason to look at it except looking for ai artifacts

>SOULESS

>why is this so interesting in comparison?

>SOUL

I get you anon, a soulful /beg/ artist is more interesting than a souless low /int/ AI art.

[Anonymous No.6375928]

>>6375916
Anon, you're seething so much your reddit spacing is getting worse.

[Anonymous No.6375929]

>>6375928
your reading comprehension needs work anon

[Anonymous No.6375943]

>>6375863
>The law is retarded.

I agree with you, plenty of illegal shit in certain parts of the world are completely legal in others.

But that's what you get when you believe in made-up concepts like Justice.

[Anonymous No.6375960]

>>6375899
>Big money studios and industries arent your friends, when will you learn this?

I already know that, but I'm not an artist, neither do I care about art that much beyond superficial reasons, and even I know that Disney will either monopolize, or cartel AI art (your point) or make it illegal because everyone will shit out their AI generated Disney, Marvel, Star Wars heavily inspired crap, profit from it, and claim "a machine did this, you can't sue me" or some BS.

[Anonymous No.6375968]

>>6375928
>your reddit spacing is getting worse

Ikr? I can't read this either, guess what? I'm ESL.

[Anonymous No.6375976]

>>6375960
>everyone will shit out their AI generated Disney, Marvel, Star Wars heavily inspired crap, profit from it, and claim "a machine did this, you can't sue me" or some BS.

AI art will be treated like Parody in theory, but they'll be plagiarism in practice, so either the almighty Mouse seize AI for him, and his friends, or they make it disapear, either way the peasants lose.

[Anonymous No.6375986]

>>6375867
3D animation isn't even remotely close to being automated. Do you have any idea how many variables and trial and error experiments go into rigging and rendering? "Illustrators" encompasses about 50 different types of jobs. Are you telling me every single one is in danger when AI can only competently render loose concepts and portraits? You sound like every other terminally jobless NEET thinking that a decade old machine learning model is a magical drawing genie

[Anonymous No.6376059]

I'm actually not against using AI, but I would like an 'ethical' model for Stable Diffusion that isn't based on copyrighted work.

[Anonymous No.6376065]

>>6375554
ok edgy, time to take ur antidepressants

[Anonymous No.6376072]

>>6375884
I doubt society will keep together or at least the system in place before it reaches that point.

[Anonymous No.6376082]

>>6376072
Rest assured, am personally counting on that.

[Anonymous No.6376084]

>people worried about AI art
Be worried, but rest assured that climate change is going to take us all back to the stone age soon enough. And the true golden age of art will start.

[Anonymous No.6376257]

>>6376084
AI and climate change are memes that only delusional children give a shit about

[Anonymous No.6376296]

>>6367663
>There are hidden admiration for artists
Yeah, it's the same as anyone who is good at something. It just varies where you recieve praise.
In the locker room or gym, at the track, in the studio, reviews on websites, etc.
Bakeries still get tons of money even though we have mass produced cakes now.
People still sell food they grow in their garden at farmers markets.

I feel like a large chunk of the "oh no ai will replace artists!" panic was done by people who wanted AI to replace artists out of jealousy and/or shame over the fact that they themselves failed and thus they wish to drag successful artists down with them.
they've roboticized being a crab.

[Anonymous No.6376348]

>>6375554
>It’s an evil feeling, I see now that I’m not a good person for enjoying seeing that kind of harm done to others.
You shouldn't feel guilty. There's nothing wrong about rejoicing upon seeing a smug, thieving piece of shit getting his comeuppance. These AIggers want to replace you.
You're wrong about your dream being dead though, now more than ever you should be drawing.

[Anonymous No.6376407]

>>6375986
>3D animation isn't even remotely close to being automated

>COPE

[Anonymous No.6376428]

>>6376407
It can't draw static hands and you're telling me it can automatically draw dynamic moving hands? Sure thing. Let me guess, not now but in two more weeks?

[Anonymous No.6377029]

>>6376296
>people who wanted AI to replace artists out of jealousy and/or shame over the fact that they themselves failed and thus they wish to drag successful artists down with them.
A lot of them are also seething wagecucks who can't stand seeing random beginner artists getting paid to draw something. Their bitching almost always devolves into "n-now you'll have to get a REAL job!" or "no more commissions for you!" even when the person they're arguing with never once brought up financial impact.

[Anonymous No.6377052]

>>6367635
As it turns out, AI art has basically all the same traits of AI writing
>Impressive if you come into it with no expectations
>Has a distinct style to it, you must train a new AI to get a different style
>This style is always very generic. It struggles with more stylized stuff
>Must do a lot of manual corrections to get something that really stands up to scrutiny
Someone with an artistic eye and willingness to tardwrangle the AI can make some neat stuff, I'll fully admit. Even then though, the absolute best stuff I've seen come out of AI can be described as "impressive but generic"
I guess the reason artists felt so much more threatened by it is because of how many artists do single pieces, vs writers who usually write stuff that's longer than any writing AI's ability to stay coherent. The art AIs couldn't make a webcomic in the same way a writer AI couldn't write one.

[Anonymous No.6377071]

>>6367635
what i think is bullshit is you remember art prompt websites?
i was just looking for art prompt sites and all i see in search results is AI PROMPT shit.
thanks for calling your stuff prompt dicks.

[Anonymous No.6377083]

>>6376084
Before that, a NATO country just got hit with a Russian missile, and 12 something countries want to ally themselves with Russia. WW3 might render everything else moot.
I’m 26 so I think I’m still in the running for conscription if they bring out the draft, but I’m not like prime soldier material so who knows what’ll happen. I have asthma and terrible eyesight, but desperate times and all. In a way it’s so much worse that younger and more fit people are the ones who get scooped up to be slaughtered first.
I mean fuck we might get nuked before it even comes to that. The initial news and anticipation will be horrible. We’ll have minutes to decide how to spend the last minutes of our lives right before the world ends. Mortality is bad enough but the world ending? Think about that. And we’re a hop and a skip away from that being a serious consideration.

[Anonymous No.6377348]

>>6375867
> 3d animation
Boy, have you tried using any posing software before? Or even SFM? Do you know of keyframes, mocaps, splining/in betweens, camera angle, rotoscoping, clothsims/fluid sims? Lots of rudimentary tasks in 3d animation has already been automated and yet it's still a massive pain in the ass to do a good 3d animation project that doesnt take hours before you eventually throw em into the garbage.

[Anonymous No.6377356]

I have to be good in Art to be hurt.
And even if im good in Art I would just cheat the system and use both AI and me drawing to finish commissions.
Idc, one my favorite Artists used NFT's because he couldnt earn a lot via normal gains.
When I go on Youtube there is also always a scamsor which gets promoted
You just dont have to fuck it up.
One of my friends got heavily demotivated when he got exposed for tracing Pixiv artworks for poses.
Idk, why it fucked him up so much but this was 2 years ago and he hasnt really drawn so much ever since

[Anonymous No.6377361]

This
https://twitter.com/Zb0l0/status/1592853316266254336/photo/1
and this
https://twitter.com/StuffyAi/status/1592856683596099585
got created by an AI

[Anonymous No.6377385]

>>6377361
Not making a Shitter account, fuck off

[Anonymous No.6377814]

>>6377361
Wow, it's still the same generic soulless pinups everyone else is prompting that everyone not a bot is calling out in the comments. Yawn.

[Anonymous No.6378744]

Obviously real artists can make a work of passion that resonate with people like an AI cannot do. I however just like playing around with novel tech.
For instance I made this with the lyrics to Big Iron on Stable Diffusion, not really art but pretty fun anyway, and now I want to get into maybe making art in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.6380871]

>>6375863
>>6375943
I'm not totally on board with AI either But this way of thinking is why Disney thinks it can sue a family on YouTube because they're 2-year-old toddler decided to sing one of their songs, or how Disney thought it had the authority to deny a grieving father putting a superhero on his dead son's gravestone. "I should be able to copyright my art style" reeks of narcissism and over self-importance.

[Anonymous No.6380889]

>>6367635
Commissions dried off for me and saying out loud that no one is commissioning me is shitty and I don't want pity money. But I'm a literal who, no one cares if a single tree falls in the forest when there are thousands more going strong still

[Anonymous No.6381133]

>>6375554
Based.

[Anonymous No.6381139]

>>6380871
>"I should be able to copyright my art style" reeks of narcissism and over self-importance.
Says the AIfag, as he begs for patron shekels for making a model using an artist's work, as he calls said artist obsolete

[Anonymous No.6381140]

>>6381139
I'm not the guy you were talking with..... Sir are you clinically retarded?

[Anonymous No.6381142]

>>6380889
Where were you getting them from? Is it perhaps the platform that is suffering?(Twitter?)

[Anonymous No.6381569]

>>6381142
No, I can't stand twitter for commissions

[Anonymous No.6383270]

>>6367635
1/2 AI will stay that's for sure, but i doubt it's gonna change the actual industry nor patreon, fanbox artists. For patreon, feelancer and fanbox artist getting told by the retarded AI fags that they are gonna run out of job, they wont, porn and art of various form has and always been free from the dawn of the internet, but people still pay artists because first and foremost, artists have actual feeling, input, their own culture, background that project onto their art and those make art more relatable to the customers, it's like that one picture that compares engagement between a 20k likes and retweets rough WIP sketch of Isabelle from AC holding a disc of doom smiling vs a 5 likes and retweets beautiful but generic blurry front profile AI art of a cyborg girl, people don't care about generic beautiful art, they care about the thoughts, the input, the soul and most importantly, the effort that the artist put in their pieces. AI photobashes random trendy art but it doesn't think nor care or it requires the AI "prompter/artist" any effort more than putting in the tags masterpiece/high quality. Now to the industry part, i have worked in an indie game studio, has a friend in a triple a company and had an office tour at his company and currently, an animation studio so i know what im talking about, studios from indie to triple A always want consistency, unity in style and most importantly, understanding in design fundamental, and they always want a specific result through countless research, meetings, trial and error to get that one perfect design that fits the agreed key visual, AI cant do all of that, hell AI can't even do concept art right because it will always only create a massive number of one side/ perspective when actual artists have to figure out what to draw in the frontside, back side, side view, general technical details.

[Anonymous No.6383272]

>>6367635
2/2 Research, fundamental understanding in design, art fundies are all required if you want to get a job in the design industry, obviously there are more skills to consider for different field, like cinematography, story boarding, color mastery, placement, types fonts,... to name a few. The point is, it requires alot of things that only human with years of training, grinding fundies and visual library can understand and random beautiful but blurry and generic automated AI art isn't gonna cut it nor do the AI prompters with their tags. Like hell, it's been 6 months like you said, AI art can create 50 pics of big titties wide hip girls in beautiful Rennaissance art style just in a few minutes, but still no company or corporation picking it up or even plan to use it for automated use in fear of retaliation, tracing/copyright infringment, lack of control over the material and innovation. Tl/dr unless AI reached the point of achieving sentient, there are no reason to fear, AI fags are all ngmi that want to crab and the contrarian/ troll 4chan culture only encourage them to post more dumb shit to piss you off, you should ignore, report them and get back to grind fundies.

[Anonymous No.6383322]

>>6383270
I agree with almost everything, except that AI art is only beautiful, but doesn’t get engagement. Actually it’s the opposite, AI art is exactly the way people like the most. It’s like Samichan art, people simple can’t resist it, it’s the most profitable style ever.

I’ve seen some AI art with 40k + likes and most of them with 1k+. Older accounts from not famous real artists get around 50 likes, some brand new accounts from from prompters get easily 200 likes.

The rest, you’re right, AI is just an image generator, you can’t do exactly what you want and be consistent, not to mention hands, feet, action scenes, etc.

AI can do great flashy, very smooth and detailed random illustrations, which is perfect for patreon and fanbox, will certainly vastly impact smaller artists doing the same. Other than that, I’m quite sure human artists will keep dominating by really far. The power of having 100% control and no limitations of what to draw will always win against a pretty rendering.

[Anonymous No.6383351]

>>6383270
How much of a game budget artists is taking? 0.2%? Probably less. It doesnt worth all the fuckery of AI, especially being replaced with prompt fags who also want to be paid.
They say art directors would fire all their departments and sit down and prompt shit 24/7, why would they do it? Or hire pajeets? Money saved will be pocketed by higher ups anyway as it always has been with that kinda things.

[Anonymous No.6383839]

>>6383322
>The power of having 100% control and no limitations
Do you feel like you have 100% control and no limitations when you draw? I get your point but I think you are overestimating yourself.

[Anonymous No.6383901]

>>6375545
Not a of it, but the lowest quality kind is a machine, as opposed to the hand/machine hybrid of the modern kind. Technology was updated, but the best lace still needs a careful and human touch.

[Anonymous No.6383935]

>>6383839
Not me specifically, I’m talking about human artists in general. AI is bad for production not because the result is bad, but because it’s unpredictable, randomness is part of its core.

Even if a human can’t perfectly draw something, the intention can be clear enough. If AI was made more as a helping tool instead of an automation, it could be used more efficiently by artists. Right now it’s just a fun app for non artists play around generating random art.

Think about 3d art, you have full control over it, the pose, camera angle, depth of field, textures, materials, lights, you control everything, but the rendering is done by the computer.

[Anonymous No.6384616]

Not much has changed if you look at the big picture, at least for now. People still pay for commissions, patreon coombux artist are still surviving, and I don't see people posting AI art beyond the novelty of it.

[Anonymous No.6384657]

>>6383270
>>6383272
>>6383322
non retarded takes in /ic/? sheesh
I came to the same conclusions, but only time will really telll

[Anonymous No.6384784]

>>6384616
The novelty of A.I wore off. All of those proompters had a short burst of interests and followers. But the problem is, they are all the same-y gimmick accounts rather artists with individuality. And the novelty wore off.

[Anonymous No.6385186]

>>6367635
I noticed changes with how I perceive art
When I see an anime pinup with THAT kind of generic lighting and rendering my first reaction is to go ">IS THIS AI????"
But by the same token it made me appreciate all art more, in a way. I didn't realize how much skill and attention to detail artwork sometimes require.

[Anonymous No.6385283]

>>6384784
Despite AIfags' belief that artists are in it for the rush of gaining commissions and clout, a lot of artists are driven by the goal of self-improvement, those peaks and valleys of loving your work and then hating it to the point that you redevote yourself to studies so you can love your work once more. I'd have to imagine that simply generating finished artworks over and over again gives you none of that feeling.

[Anonymous No.6386207]

>>6385283
I think it gives you the feeling of a gacha at best.

[Anonymous No.6386247]

>>6375546
what video?

[Anonymous No.6386256]

>>6375976
picrel isn't AI right?

[Anonymous No.6386757]

>>6384784
Ahahaha, interest dying off faster than AI art "improves"

Tried telling you morons that diffusion programs from 2015 aren't a magical drawing genie. You're stuck with shitty gacha while I can make literally anything I could ever want. Because...you know, I actually worked for it.

[Anonymous No.6386780]

>>6384784>>6386757

The threat was never that normies would willfully abandon artists, or at least not after month of Stable Diffusion release. The threat was that the AI will soon become indistinguishable from real artists, and when it becomes impossible to tell real from fake, the faster and cheaper fake ones will win thanks to easy spam.

[Anonymous No.6386796]

>>6386757
>Implying simple diffusion program from 2015 with enough parameters and data is not enough to replace all of you useless faggots

[Anonymous No.6386798]

>>6386796
I could immediately tell this was AI art by looking at the boots and the more I look the worse it gets.
AI art only looks fine in thumbnails because AI has an easy time with composition and color theory but the completely nonsensical and inconsistent details give it away every time and I always wonder if you fucks are just incapable of seeing details or understanding their importance. Images are more than just an idea and it's the deliberate, hand-made details that can elevate a good piece into an amazing one.

[Anonymous No.6386810]

>>6386796
>with enough parameters and data
That's the weasely way of saying "art drawn by actual artists," because they can't admit that their programs will stagnate without actual drawings from real artists.

[Anonymous No.6386814]

>>6386796
What a terrible example. I don't agree, but AI can do much better than this plastic airbrushed shit.

[Anonymous No.6386818]

>>6386798
>AI has an easy time with composition and color theory but the completely nonsensical and inconsistent details
That's because the AI doesn't know what it is doing, that's why we have a nice rendering and bizarre mistakes at the same time.

[Anonymous No.6386884]

>>6386810
Most of the AI datasets are not artworks, they are just ordenary pictures. You make it learn how to draw in certain style and composition from artwork, then you collect data on how bird look like, or how spiders look like from photos. Just stealing your personal data from cloud and using it for training AI. There have just been people training these models on kinda obscure websites, just imagine once Twitter goes down and Elon will be forced to sell all of the data on Twitter to save Tesla from collapsing. Thats all the photos, all the Twitter artists, all the videos, all the memes, everything, including private conversations. There is so much data and the AI has not scrapped even a tiny bit of it. These gigamodels learning on datasets far far larger then any Stable Diffusion fork will be owned and run on company computers, but they will be able to mimic every type of artstyle out there, and depict anything that can be described. All by just increasing number of parameters and collecting more and more data.

[Anonymous No.6386900]

>>6367696
I knew that already but again:

Every.Single.Time

[Anonymous No.6387139]

>>6367696
>Other activities such as music, sports, art, computers, reading, talking, socialising
>Proceeds to help industry that wants to automate music, art, computer(programming) and already automated talking and socialising trough social media
What is with these people? They are too rich and their projects too counterproductive for them to be simple grifters with no morals, but they keep walking over their own ideals. Are they just genuinely stupid and have no idea that their actions might result in the opposite outcome in the end?

[Anonymous No.6387221]

>>6386798
>>6386814
I made that you crabs you will not stop our blitzkrieg empire

[Anonymous No.6387346]

>>6367635
>DALL-E mini
Shit tier AI. Art made by it always looked creepy

>NovelAI
Good tier AI. The art made by it was fairly good. Still it would make few mistakes.

[Anonymous No.6387384]

>>6369359
not my proudest fap but I got the job done

[Anonymous No.6387389]

>>6387384
Glad to have provided. An art experiment prompting up Edward Burne-Jones. I'm not sure why he turned her into a slug, but it's still his fault. I can blame him because he's dead.

[Anonymous No.6387397]

>>6369595
wow they're getting really good. took me a while to find the ai artifacts

[Anonymous No.6387401]

>>6387397
also hands and feet hidden should have been a dead giveaway.

[Anonymous No.6387403]

>>6387397
Nah, it's as good as it could possibly get with the current tech. All the shit you see posted is cherry picked because it tends to generate shitty pictures at random.

[Anonymous No.6387406]

Wow it's almost as if it was fucking nothing and you faggots were pearl clutching for no reason at all.

[Anonymous No.6387407]

>>6386798
>I could immediately tell this obvious AI art was made by AI when a person told me they made it with an AI
damn, now that's impressive

[Anonymous No.6387416]

>>6377361
wow i'm just a filthy /beg/ but now I see what you guys are up against. how can you even compete when patreoooners pump shit like this out every day?

[Anonymous No.6387438]

>>6375858
but how are they able to tell it's AI generated. For example, if someone generates something and fixes the shitty AI generated hands, eyes, etc. how can they tell?

[Anonymous No.6387483]

>>6387438
>For example, if someone generates something and fixes the shitty AI generated hands, eyes, etc. how can they tell?
I'm getting sick of this propaganda that tries to imply that the only issue are minor body parts, when the coloring and the blurryness are bigger giveaways everytime.

[Anonymous No.6387498]

>>6377361
>hands hidden
and nobody cared
>>6387416
>hands acceptably hidden or NovelAi'd
details alone will overwhelm most ppl

remember, in BW drawings, eyes go to face first, then hands/pose, but for color images, especially pin ups, eyes go to the body, then face, then hands
>>6387483
technical details that will be worked out
ai shit doesn't have to be better than the best humans, just better than you/me and rest of /beg/

[Anonymous No.6387510]

I'm getting as good at clocking AI "art" as I'm good at clocking trannies.

[Anonymous No.6387516]

>>6387510
it's fairly easy once you get used to it, but your audience won't care, that's the problem
the ai shit doesn't magically POOF away once you see through it, lol

[Anonymous No.6387521]

>>6387516
my audience doesn't care about AI art. my clients don't give a fuck, i've asked them. if you are an artist with a recognisable brand AI is a non factor. people will want your art because YOU made it. stop being a doomposting faggot and go draw.

[Anonymous No.6387524]

>>6387498
>technical details that will be worked out
The best AI video upscaler is pretty much 10 years old and it's nowhere close to being perfect and you are trying to tell me a much more complex problem is going to get solved earlier?

[Anonymous No.6387525]

>>6387521
that is a very healthy attitude, good luck out there, I will keep drawing as well

[Anonymous No.6387537]

>>6387524
upscalers and text to image diffusers are very different tech, but I understand what you mean, technologies seem to move too fast then it stands still for years or even decades until a random breakthrough starts the machine again...

[Anonymous No.6387561]

>>6375853
>he doesn't think they wont come for everything you couldn't think of them taking after they already took """everything""""
>let alone before.
copywrite used to be 28 years long.

[Anonymous No.6387563]

>>6375863
go fuck yourself copywrite nigger. until copywrite is 20 years long you can shove everything you stand for up the nearest aids ridden asshole; yours.

[Anonymous No.6387566]

>>6372731
>that's been stolen from talented hard-working people like ourselves.
holy shit squidward open your fucking eyes and look in the mirror.

[Anonymous No.6387568]

>>6367696
>("Students are free to decide if they want to attend classes or spend their time on other activities such as music, sports, art, computers, reading, talking, socializing, or doing nothing at all.")
increadibly based. Dunno how hes going to achieve his commie dreams if students can just ignore the propaganda but I think we should implement these standards immediately.

[Anonymous No.6387578]

>>6367666
A damned good point, Satan. Nobody loves a fraud, and includes the audience!

[Anonymous No.6387584]

>>6369362
>It's the top ten percent who is likely to be the most affected by it, which imo is a good thing.
How so? You'd think visibility would be a huge problem for folks without an audience, if the AI shit starts flooding social media.

[Anonymous No.6387592]

Go back to trade school, electricians and plumbers are good jobs that can't be outsourced.

[Anonymous No.6387816]

>>6387592
Same is true with drawing hands, so my trade is still safe.

[Anonymous No.6387940]

>>6386796
I like how every attempt to own artists with AI pics is always the worst most embarassing shit possible. This is like an overrendered Chris Hart "how to draw anime" picture. Stiff anatomy, pose doesn't flow with the action, missing one hand, the other is rotated awkwardly, no sense of depth due to lack of color variation in the shading, inconsistent and directionless fillagree on the clothing, nonspecific moeblob face and expression

[Anonymous No.6387944]

>>6386780
It's been 6 months. You always say "soon" but never explain how or ignore the fact that diffusion tech isn't capable of doing anything more than generic pinup bullshit at best, and even then takes hours or roulette prompting and manual editing. Even /g/'s tutorials on SD admit this.

Again, diffusion technology isn't a magical drawing genie, and until it is you're wasting time shilling. No one is fooled.

[Anonymous No.6387947]

>>6387940
>>6386814
>>6386798
The point was not that it is good at it now, but that it is even possible. So many of you claim that AI can only do simple pinup poses from the front, and now I show you dynamic poses with many special effects. The point is that creativity of AI is not one of its limiters. It will get more creative, not just smoothing out hands and eyes.

[Anonymous No.6387948]

>>6387944
>>6387947
Read
>>6386796
Observe. You are already dead faggots

[Anonymous No.6387959]

i don't feel dead yet.
everything is going to be OK ^__^.

[Anonymous No.6387966]

>>6387948
>If I keep saying reality is a certain way, then it'll become true!

I wish you'd apply this detetmination towards developing drawing ability. Maybe then you won't be pathetically trying to flex with dime a dozen, instantly-identifiable, endlessly flawed botslop

[Anonymous No.6387967]

Like everything else that was supposed to happen nothing really happened. Turns out humans like art by other humans. Even the shills are getting tired. Yawn.

[Anonymous No.6387993]

>>6387592
>THESE jobs will NEVER be replaced!
lol

[Anonymous No.6388024]

>>6369362
>It's the top ten percent who is likely to be the most affected by it
more like the bottom 10%. the most vocal detractors of AI are probably thirdies from east euro/asian/south american shitholes who used to make a living drawing your typical weebshit with abhorrent anatomy in exchange for pennies. they would be in direct competition with AI spam for cheap/mentally ill coomissioners

as garbage as AI is, it has unironically lifted the quality bar for digital grifters.

[Anonymous No.6388031]

>>6375899
You are correct. At this year's Disney expo one of their reps talked about developing "directable characters" where you can speak into the microphone and the characters animate themselves like an actor. They're also developing CGI human models that are indistinguishable from real humans, put two and two together there. Of course they try to shill it by saying they're doing it to "save work for the animators" aka they're gonna fire all of them and are trying to play this off as some sort of benevolent act towards their employees. Because Disney is really struggling as a company needs to save costs so they can keep buying up every media outlet and IP and endless lawyers.

[Anonymous No.6388048]

>>6387592
Remember back in 2020 or 2019 when everyone said truck drivers will be replaced, and that coding and creative fields are the last jobs to be automated?

Now look at where we are today in 2022. Truckers still have their jobs, article writers still have their jobs, and the only people getting mad over losing jobs are the creative fields and coders. If somebody tells you to go into said field because said field will not be automated in your lifetime, you know they are full of stinkiest shit imaginable.

[Anonymous No.6388050]

>>6388048
To be fair, truckers (and all transportation, really) can 100% be automated right now. We just don't do it because our infrastructure is fucking dogshit and can't support that kind of automation yet, and there's no real political will to do something like that. Automated cars don't need to be perfect, they just need to be better than us, and they already are.
Truckers will be automated, but slowly.
See: China, where driverless vehicles are being implemented into newly built cities
>article writers still have their jobs
Most articles are written by AI at this point. Hell, most 4chan posts are probably written by AI.

[Anonymous No.6388345]

>>6387993
yes, anon, you will need someone to lay pipe in your home, they are good union jobs that need no college degree, you aren't going to have general intelligence robots cheap enough to send around the entire continent for decades, and unless you are a retard, you should be able to benefit from newer tech, owning your own plumbing business by then

there will always be jobs that need actual people, all office jobs were always jokes to begin with and only exist now to leech off large companies

[Anonymous No.6388347]

>>6387967
why would anything change?
how does bunch of /g/ fags making anime pictures effect you drawing for your own crowd?

is ai going to come into your home and chop your hand off?

[Anonymous No.6388354]

>>6388347
nice hands, lmao
at least post something good

[Anonymous No.6388467]

"art" fags, if this is your competition, were you really an artist?

[Anonymous No.6388483]

>>6388345
this whole 'dude just get into trades' or 'dude just get into stem' is just all a massive fucking cope against higher education. frankly, most of the time it comes off as the idea that these are the jobs real men are supposed to do and go after. as if plumbing or changing wires is somehow a more legitimate job because it's physical to some degree and pays decently?
I've been seeing this push for 'trades' for like a decade and it has always felt extremely artificial. trade jobs aren't some unassailable bastion, first of all. they aren't a free ticket to a decent pay, either. they are hard jobs and just because they seem difficult to automate, doesn't mean they won't be automated.

[Anonymous No.6388487]

>>6388347
People who love creating stuff and are insane think near future will be where everyone has their own AI genies tailored to their tastes and making them anything they ask for. Some maximum consoomers once in a while say this on random /g/ ai threads because they are soo brainwashed about corpos bad that they would rather have not make everything for them then support copos. Of course everyone having AI make their own stuff with few words is the worst nightmare for people who like making things and people appreciating them, even for free. Most of this concern is coming from few fringe artists being scared shitless, AI promoters spamming most art sites, and then trolls who enjoy people molding, and right now it is artists who are molding.

[Anonymous No.6388504]

>>6388483
it's decent work for good pay, but you'll have it until you retire, I don't know what more you want out of life, you're not going to be CEO or the president, anon

you live in Indiana, and winter is cold

[Anonymous No.6388509]

>>6388483
This. Coders and artists seemed impossible to automate 2 years ago and now we see they were not really. I bet the same thing will happen to trades. Everyone was saying learn to code every time somebody was automated, now coders are getting automated. They were also shilling trades at the same time. I won’t be surprised if the next big replacement drama will be over trades. Here is my timeline:
>Twitter continues to tank, bringing down Tesla stock, and forcing Elon to repay the loans he issued with his declining Tesla stock.
>He is finally forced to sell all his shares, Tesla goes under fire and bunch of companies buy the different patents and resources from that company, including the Tesla bot
>With extremely sophisticated object detection technology spearheaded by AI art research, tesla bot will become very competent and observative
>The other company will upgrade the body of the robot to not be complete emberassment and resemble more Boston Dynamics dexterity
>With the language models from GPT-3, object recognition from art bots, and dexterous body, the robot will be able to easily do manual labour, find leaks in pipes, recognise different wires and tools (Dreambooth technology allows only small amount of images to be used for recognising very specific objects), and so on
>Bots manage to automate trades
>When there is new tool developed requiring new training or there are simply too many plumbers and not enough electricians, just download training file from the internet for the task and you are done, instead of retraining the guy for months
>All by just 2024
I could totally see this happening. Nobody will expect that, everyone expected it to not happen, and then it just happens.

[Anonymous No.6388510]

>>6388509
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.6388578]

https://stability.ai/blog/stable-diffusion-v2-release
yo new shit dropped
don't worry, it's censored ;)

[Anonymous No.6388646]

>>6388467
Nice fingers nigga

[Anonymous No.6388706]

>>6388646
doesn't matter to coomers or ai """"""""""""""""""artists""""""""""""""""""
you fap to fingers?

[Anonymous No.6388709]

>>6388706
>you fap to fingers?
Yes.

And feet.

[Anonymous No.6388710]

>>6388709
poor bastard, ai is no friend to you

[Anonymous No.6388712]

>>6388646
fingers are not important

[Anonymous No.6388723]

>>6384784
This is funny and sad at the same time. It's like a beg wondering why he's not improving but in this case improvement is impossible and results are based on the same randomness from the start.

[Anonymous No.6388749]

>>6388578
Nice Quasimodo spine.

[Anonymous No.6388754]

>>6388578
>mfw when SDv2 hands are still fucked and the eyes look like stab wounds
>just two more weeks, maybe v3 will…

[Anonymous No.6388756]

>>6388706
>you fap to fingers?

No shit

[Anonymous No.6388761]

>>6388756
>unfinished simple sketch
>looks more interesting than any AI slop I've seen
Is gesture really that important?

[Anonymous No.6388767]

>>6367635
I have noticed that a whole bunch of prostitutes in East Europe and Russia are being sent to die in war and it fills me with joy to read their last desperate screeches. Hopefully something similar will happen in Japan if China gets to work, although I imagine that AI is getting a whole lot of bugmen to finally off themselves. That'd be a good cleanup of porn peddling filth.
Reminder to stop posting your art online and KYS if you're a pornshitter. Do the world a favor and volunteer to manually detonate landmines on the front, that's far more useful than what you're doing with your life right now

[Anonymous No.6388768]

>>6388767
You realize the only reason a "pornshitter" would off themselves over generated art would be if the generated art is porn, right? Which means there is still porn being created at somebody's request. Basically you're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.6388769]

>>6388768
Of course I know there's more porn. I just enjoy to see you faggots getting devoured by the same cancer you represent. I want things to accelerate into total shit

[Anonymous No.6388772]

>>6388761
Fingers, feet, gesture and artist's personal input. Human art's greatest strength is the imperfection and personality of it. Artists might draw some ugly hand and ugly feet, but they will never give you a sense of Lovecraftian fingers like A.I does.

[Anonymous No.6388776]

>>6388769
Did you got fucked by a shemale prostitue? Jeez, go to doctor or something.

[Anonymous No.6388777]

>>6388769
t. a.i curio

[Anonymous No.6388779]

>>6388767
>>6388768
Let me guess, you have reach your 30's and have become a wizard because you are still a untalented failure virgin like fuck man I'm 21 and I lost my virginity at 18 while you are still a pathetic virgin lol

[Anonymous No.6388781]

>>6388769
Let me guess - you're a wagie. Did bossman give you Thanksgiving off?

[Anonymous No.6388800]

>>6388723
For me, this is like the typical " texture brush and tricks" that alot of BEGs have. Trust me, i'm a permabeg and used to be like that. I used alot of texture brushes and photoshop tricks, filters to "improve" my drawings, thought i'm finally became a passable, competent artist. But then that bubble bursted and i was nothing more than a laughing stock. However, i came to term with my own mediocrity and decided to, you know, just learn more instead of going the shortcut. And people actually like my artwork this time.
However, for A.I proompter, i afraid they will never gonna improve because they don't draw in the first place. They are here, being absolute tumors to the art market.

[Anonymous No.6388805]

>>6388712
Nice 5 meter arm

[Anonymous No.6388806]

>>6388800
you don't need to improve at drawing if you are using AI, retard.

[Anonymous No.6388807]

>>6388712
how about that ridiculous arm proportion? why not just draw the pair of boobs on their own then, retard?

[Anonymous No.6388808]

>>6388806
this is what AIcels cope with. you need to learn to draw if you plan to use AI, because you won't be able to understand what looks good in the first place, which is necessary to fix it. to fix a complex picture, you need to reach the level necessary to make it on your own in the first place. otherwise, you'll end up generating trash like your pic, without understanding what makes it look like garbage and then clutching your pearls when people tell you it's shit. how can you hope to create something nice if you bitch that criticism is "nitpicking". you bitch that criticism is "nitpicking" because you know deep down that you're a worthless, skilless retard who cannot fix the image because all you do is type in a few words in a text box

[Anonymous No.6388809]

>>6388808
My friend, if you think that pic don't look nice you're ngmi. Give up now and save yourself the pain.

[Anonymous No.6388810]

>>6388809
>My friend, if you think that pic don't look nice you're ngmi.
NTA but are serious? That pic looks like a blurry mess, photobashing would have gave you a better result unironically.

[Anonymous No.6388813]

>>6388806
>You don't need to improve at drawing if you can just be a passive consumer.

Very true.

[Anonymous No.6388814]

>>6388810
I am serious, it's a good looking image and anyone saying otherwise is on hard cope mode. Photobashing is industry standard, ofcourse it's gonna give you a better result if you do it well.

[Anonymous No.6388815]

>>6388809
my "friend" you are so brain damaged you cannot observe the shitty disproportionate hands. look how undersized her left hand is. was that your intention, or was it a random suggestion by AI? this is exactly the point I'm making. you see some rendering and you're like "woah bro, how can you not like this goyslop, it's so beautiful". clueless tard

[Anonymous No.6388820]

>>6388809
If the pic is actually good, then who is even going to make it in the end? Trads are outmatched, prompters are clowns with no respect. Everyone loses, except for the guy who needs the picture.

[Anonymous No.6388821]

>>6388815
I don't think I've ever seen cope on this level before.

[Anonymous No.6388825]

>>6388814
>>6388821
>can't accept any criticism
>tells other people they are copying
Dude is your plan to look like a fucking idiot in every AI thread?

[Anonymous No.6388830]

>>6388825
I'm just shitposting anon, don't take it too seriously

[Anonymous No.6388834]

>>6388830
Never took an AI shitposter seriously, I just reply to these threads to reach bump limit faster. :)

[Anonymous No.6388837]

>>6388834
good

[Anonymous No.6388845]

>>6388837
Thank you sir!

[Anonymous No.6388849]

>>6388845
no problem buddy

[Anonymous No.6388897]

>>6388834
Non-artist here. Does this mean that AI will not cause the artpocalipse, or at least not just the current diffusion models?

[Anonymous No.6388904]

>>6388897
The only future A.I will have is the low budget illustrations for indie games and book covers.

[Anonymous No.6388907]

>>6388897
Current diffusion models won't. It's too vague and limited
>cant do details
>cant do interesting poses
>cant draw fotm characters quick enough because you have to feed it enough art made by others for it to copy it
>cant produce consistent results to create believable comics etc where you need the character to look more or less the same
>cant replicate someones style and sell it without a horde of angry people knocking at your door and cancelling out for being a thieving faggot
>cant produce concept art on the level required for industry jobs that require detailed character sheets and precise demands to get a coherent visual look (again its too vague and you cant for example conceptualize a 3d model based on a shitty drawing full of AI vomit artifacts)
Its only there for low standards coomers looking for a quick release, attention starved techchuds who get a false sense of validation sharing their shitty derivative pics among themselves and desperate indie gamedevs too poor to use anything else. If AI learn how to bash details and dynamic poses it'd have more ground to stand on, but even there, this technology was engineered to solve utterly non-existent issues in an already oversaturated and highly competitive market.

The only real problems AI might cause for artists is flooding the shit out of art platforms with unproperly tagged pictures. The only people this technology might put out of business are stock photo providers.

[Anonymous No.6388925]

[Anonymous No.6388952]

>>6388897
Artpocalypse probably not.
Artistpocalypse is guaranteed, this and next year probably will be the last generation of full time artists.

[Anonymous No.6388961]

>>6388952
Wasn't it two weeks? That's quite a big goalpost movement.

[Anonymous No.6388968]

>>6388952
AI art isn’t art

[Anonymous No.6389090]

>>6388897
>>6388907
To add:
>cant do the things it currently does without relying on large-scale image piracy or breaking copyright laws in other ways (overfitting)

[Anonymous No.6389279]

prompters are mad that stable diffusion 2.0 removed nsfw and famous artists from their training dataset.

they should get fucked.

[Anonymous No.6389338]

>>6389279
Downright comical watching them throw a hissy fit over the drop in quality. They have such little respect for artist yet value their work so much, they are so internally conflicted. Peak cognitive dissonance.

[Anonymous No.6389339]

>>6389279
Don't worry, Midjourney is now the torchbearer, and they are not removing a single image from their dataset.
See what this guy is doing
https://twitter.com/8co28/status/1595452308204027905/photo/4

People like this
>>6387944
Don't understand how fast AI moves. NovelAI was released a month ago, and now Nijijourney can blow it out of the water in terms of artstyle variety.
Its basically impossible to identify nijijourney art just by their style, you have to laser hunt for details.

[Anonymous No.6389342]

>>6389339
>basically impossible to identify nijijourney art just by their style

The twitter art you linked is literally mika pikazo + yoneyama mai, what are you on about

[Anonymous No.6389344]

>>6389342
That's only one style nijijourney can do.
This is also made by Nijijourney, is there any stylistic similarity between the two?

Like I AI is very depressing for many artists, but saying "AI can't do X, AI is still too bad, 2 more weeks" is just very sad, because AI really does improve that fast.

[Anonymous No.6389353]

>>6389344
That's Roxy from Mushoku Tensei mixed with Made in Abyss.

Also her hand is on backwards.

Diffusion models really are not going to get much better, especially if more image generators follow after the trend of SD 2.0. And those that don't and continue relying on copywritten work are going to be destroyed in court in the near future.

[Anonymous No.6389357]

>>6389353
I know its Roxy, I was trying to recreate her, and Nijijourney is 100x better at doing so than NovelAI. I've attached another Chibi Eris.

The point is, Nijijourney is clearly capable of doing extremely diverse styles. Sure there are still errors, but you realize you are moving goalposts right? Most artists can't draw the images I've shown with even more glaring errors.

And SD is not related to midjourney in any way. Midjourney uses their in-house model, developed completely independently of SD (They had their shitty v1 at the start of the year, way before SD came out). So they aren't affected by the SD2.0 fiasco. They don't take investors, they take subscriber money, so they care about customer satisfaction more than pleasing investors.

You also overestimate the threat of lawsuits, I have talked to real lawyers about this, and they are pessimistic about the chances of artists suceeding at all.

[Anonymous No.6389361]

>>6389357
>You also overestimate the threat of lawsuits, I have talked to real lawyers about this, and they are pessimistic about the chances of artists suceeding at all.
I hope they're wrong because if some guy on the internet can pinpont exactly which characters and artists you ripped off to create the pics you posted theres something obviously wrong there

[Anonymous No.6389362]

>>6389361
Sorry m8 your 'pinpoints' are extremely hard to prove in court.
And even if you can prove it, styles are not copyrightable.

[Anonymous No.6389363]

>>6389357
>retard claims you can't identify the styles in an image generator
>i identify the style
>he posts another image
>i identify the style again
>"wHy aRe YoU mOviNg tHe GOaLpOstS?"

I don't think I'm overestimating when there is already an active lawsuit regarding ai scraping copywritten data being used for profit

[Anonymous No.6389365]

>>6389338
They're braindead bottom feeders, having to rely entirely on the works of real artists to generate anything, the Chinese knockoff factories, waiting for Americna or Japanese companies to invent something so they can make their shoddy knockoffs. They cope with this fact by not acknowledging that their generators just scrape by on real artists' works, so they convince themselves it's just nebulous datasets to hide their insecurities.

[Anonymous No.6389366]

>>6389362
>styles are not copyrightable.
And so is anything created by AI, so I guess that's a standstill huh

[Anonymous No.6389369]

>>6389362
You aren't wrong but picture this. Currently anyone is able to feed someone else's copyrighted data to a bot for it to generate obviously derivative content, potentially to profit from it... With no repercussion, because its such a smart jew bot that it doesn't actually save the evidence. There's no way this shit flies under scrutiny.

[Anonymous No.6389373]

if you go to /sdg/ and start pointing out the problem with their generations they get really mad. it's p.funny, would recommend it.

[Anonymous No.6389378]

>>6389342
Oh, that's the japanese asshole that got trillions of likes generating images to promote AI. I don't like this AI stuff, but he's very famous and people seem to love his generations.

The thing is, AI can do really insanely detailed pictures and that ALONE is enough to make any normie go "whoaaa!!".

[Anonymous No.6389379]

>>6389339
> follower by 5 people you know
Lmao just put it in my block list.

[Anonymous No.6389380]

>>6389362
This court talk is lame, that's not the right approach, but even when a human copies another famous artist's style it's not seen as a nice thing, why should it be different with AI?

[Anonymous No.6389382]

>>6389380
It's all AI can do, literally.
You have to sidestep this inconvenient thought exercise to justify AI's existence at all.

[Anonymous No.6389385]

>>6389378
normies are retarded anon.

as long as that shit only appeals to them I don't really care, what AI shitters want is to be seen as artists and they never will.

the art + artists community should simply gatekeep the fuck out of AI "artists" out of THEIR digital art community.

if they want a fanbase, go get it with NTF and crypto scammers, that's where AI image generation belongs.

[Anonymous No.6389394]

>>6389339
> “Not followed by anyone you’re following.”
> 168K followers

how in the fuck.

are all of these bots or something?

[Anonymous No.6389410]

>>6389380
>>6389369
>>6389363
All of what you guy say have merit.
But you can see, the argument has subtlety shifted from
>The AI is too incapable, so its not a problem
to
>The AI is too capable, and that's a problem

Whatever happens to AI, it'll be a legal challenge. On a technical side its far from plateauing yet, everything you see right now, is only several months of development. And massive amounts of money are being poured into R&D now that its proven to be extremely popular and profitable. If you keep believing "AI can't do this", you will be in for a lot of despair.

[Anonymous No.6389411]

>>6389380
>artist copying an artist's style vs AI
I would say there is a big difference there, at least in terms of how it's taken. Referencing an artist is most of the time a sign of respect, whereas making a generator model based on an artist's style has so far seemed to be nothing but disrespect. An artist who references another artist isn't trying to replace the referenced artist, while everything I hear about image generators is that the goal I'd to replace artists. Also, one artist mimicking another artist's style isn't really seen as any sort of threat, since the mimickry will never be truly perfect (same is true about AI), and especially because a mimicking artist will be at best as fast as the referenced artist (typically slower, for obvious reasons). That second point is the big issue about how targeted AI generators are concretely, measurably different from regular artist mimicking of another style - the generator can absolutely flood the "market" with its shitty knockoffs at a rate much faster than the mimicked artist could achieve. This is a threat to business in more ways than one, because people happy with D-grade mimicking will get what they want for free, and the artist runs the risk of having their name and reputation mixed up with the sub-par generated works.

It's like comparing some guy illegally offering a paid screening a movie for his neighborhood to a DVD bootlegging factory.

[Anonymous No.6389420]

>>6389411
>since the mimickry will never be truly perfect (same is true about AI)
AI can often outperfrom the original artist in mimicry abilities.
The best example is SamdoesArts, whom many Dreambooth trainers deliberately practice on.
The latest SDA models are completely indistinguishable from the actual Sam, and often the images look better.
Now, not every artist can be mimiced so easily. Sam made himself an easy target because he only draws female-anime-pinups, which is trivially done by AI.
For artists like Mai Yoneyama, there do exists Dreambooths, and the dreambooths do look very pretty (see attached pic), but are still far below her standard.

But nevertheless, artists like Mai are extremely rare, you need extremely exceptional skills in composition, action, anatomy to consistently beat the AI. Most artists just can't beat the AI on a technical level, if they can now, they won't be in a years time.

In the future, artists will just have to move to comics and AI assisted animation en masse, as AI finds long-form-storytelling far more difficult than single images.

[Anonymous No.6389425]

>>6389420
>AI can often outperfrom the original artist in mimicry abilities
Absolute brainlet moment. Or are you a shitskin?

[Anonymous No.6389434]

>>6389410
The only way diffusion models are going to "improve" is by training longer. If you know anything about ML, you know that the more you train a diffusion model, the more it overfits the data points. The only way to counter this is to add more images. The thing is, they've already got over 5 billion images and yet still encounter overfitting issues. Adding more images is also pulling the quality level down as more noise is introduced that the model has to tackle with more training, but the more you train the more you overfit.

The reason why there is hype around MJ v4 is cause the devs eased off the brakes a bit and let the model train too much, increasing quality by letting it overfit even more. They're doing this because they know most of the community is not well versed enough to recognize examples of overfitting.

People think there's been some technological breakthrough with these new updates, but 95% of the update is literally just "we trained the model for more iterations". They are stuck in a balancing act between blurry melted mutant limbs and literal plagiarism.

[Anonymous No.6389436]

>>6389339
NovelAI and it's leaks still won because it can do coom.
midjourneyshill can just fuck off with it's paid shit

[Anonymous No.6389440]

>>6389434
Not true, you can change the method of training and the training data, not just increase training time.

[Anonymous No.6389442]

Can't wait for the lawsuit for all this paid shit. Burn AI thieves.

[Anonymous No.6389443]

>>6389440
>you can just change the method of training

Alright bud let me know when you've got that groundbreaking new AGI model that can actually learn concepts through reading art books and video tutorials.

[Anonymous No.6389446]

>>6389434
Diffusion models improve in two ways.
1.Training longer (More parameters)
2.Training on more & better quality data

Note, quality generally speaking, always improves with more training, there is no overfitting problem in the base model training, only overfitting in specific fine-tuning like Dreambooth.
Traditional statistics had issues with overfitting, but it turned out that ML techniques are mostly immune from it, you could have a billion parameters for 100 mil data points, and the 1bil model still performs better than the 100 mil model.
Now, recently, Deepmind proved the optimal scaling laws is 1 data point for 1 parameters, so AI can't get much better by growing the model, but they absolutely can find and get more data.

The Base LAION is an absolutely dogshit dataset, with awful captions, that's why SD1.4 looks terrible out of the box. While NovelAI, trained on only a few mil danbooru images, looks very consistent if boring, because danbooru has extremely good tagging information, and the images have a high base quality.
Now that AI is proven to be profitable, there are companies preparing way better datasets, cleaner, better captioned, etc. That'll drive constant improvements. Midjourney v4 is not overfitting, in fact it is more expressive and flexible than SD or NovelAI, because it has user data on what images are good, what are bad, so it can prune bad generations out. It will eventually be able to train on its own images, by cherry picking the best generations.

There are also major architectural advancements, imagen and ediffi use very different models from DALLE2. You can check out techniques like paint-with-words, that just strongly improve controllability.
>https://deepimagination.cc/eDiffi/
You have no idea how much investment is pouring in this area, generative AI is the hottest area in all of technology. Tens of thousands of ML engineer and scientists are pouring papers into this area every year, so expect insane progress

[Anonymous No.6389448]

>>6389443
>groundbreaking new AGI model
Moving the goalposts
Nobody cares about AGI anymore, turns out, 'industrial AI' is perfectly useful, as we see from how popular AI art is.
AI art generators don't need to be intelligent, don't need to understand storytelling, or characters. They just need to execute technically, in anatomy, composition, shading, coloring (the last two are already there), and they'll be immensely useful.
The actual job of chaining images together, prompting to get the best results, will still be left to humans because its too hard and unprofitable to automate (it doesn't take that much time to prompt)

[Anonymous No.6389451]

>>6389448
Anon hes saying you're a retard

[Anonymous No.6389454]

>>6389434
Please be correct

[Anonymous No.6389459]

>>6389451
>>6389454
Guys, I get your sadness with AI art, but automation often boosts wages, just in ways you don't expect.

In the early 2000s, all you had to get a job, as a programmer, was to be able to do basis HTML.
Now, Javascript with all its libraries is like 50-100x more efficient than coding in raw HTML.
However, web devs didn't get paid less, nor did they lose their jobs, the demand for webdevs skyrocketed, and they got paid 2-4x what they used to be paid.

Artists will still be able to utilize AI better than non-artists. I imagine a future where youtube is full of independent animators (now animation is cheap enough to be done by a solo artist), or possibly audio-comics (again, an artist can draw a long, top quality comic in a week with AI). The people who should be afraid, are not the artists, but the tiktoking dancers, the youtube talking heads, the netflix shitters, they are the ones to be disrupted.

There is so, so much potential in AI to do more and earn more.

[Anonymous No.6389461]

>>6389448
>infinite content without pressing a button is "unprofitable"
>because... just because ok?!
Promptsisters not like this... Are we already coping about being replaced?

[Anonymous No.6389462]

Midjourney shills are really working hard today

[Anonymous No.6389464]

>>6389459
The class action lawsuits will definitely boost my wage!

[Anonymous No.6389465]

Where the fuck are you guys seeing AI art in art circles without actively looking for it?

I don't see much of it at all.

[Anonymous No.6389466]

>>6389461
Macdonald still has burger flippers.
Turns out, AI is really good at some things, but still terrible at others.
Macdonalds mostly take orders with kioisks these days, because code is better than humans at taking orders and payment.
But all the food prep is still done by humans, becasue getting a robot with fine-motor-skills is way more expensive than a high schooler.

Prompting barely costs any money or time, so replacing it has barely any profits, but developing some neural-link to automatically understand preferences is very expensive, so capitalists simply won't do it.

[Anonymous No.6389467]

>>6389446
My guy v4 is overfitting out the ass.
The real crux of this issue is that recognizing overfitted images personally requires you the viewer to have savant-like image-recall and long term memory skills. It's an ignorance-is-bliss situation where you can't recognize overfitting if you don't care to memorize all the images you see on a daily basis.

So if you're just a regular person, you can just say "well, I don't see any examples of overfitting personally!" and go about your blissful ignorance.

Different approaches to diffusion architecture can result in new variations, but it will never be able to separate itself from fundamental truths that apply to all diffusion models: data in = data out.

[Anonymous No.6389469]

>>6389459
I do hope your right. The entire situation around AI has been depressing, but I'd like to be optimistic.
Anons in this thread will shit on you regardless, but oh well.

[Anonymous No.6389470]

>>6389461
If it is so profitable why aren't you rolling in cash from your hordes of adoring fans clamoring to get their hands on you lastest set of randomly generated images?

Could it be that nobody gives a shit?

[Anonymous No.6389471]

>>6389459
>Artists will utilize AI better then nonartists
I hear this all the time and have yet to see that happen. All I see are brand new accounts posting AI slop. Machine Learning is not a tool, its replacer. People who use ML are rarely those that lose their jobs because of it.

Also idk how you could earn more money from prompting. It might have made sense if it will plateau in near future, like next month. You make AI images from your style, you then fix the mistakes and make it in a pose you like, or use it for background, or something else. Also, I dont believe that prompting will be a goldmine. Prompting will be easily automated by just either connecting the prompt generators with textbots where you describe in detail what you want and then bot will turn it into prompt gibberish, or you get what Midjurney did and make service that automatically detects what the good shit is and then it will just automatically select for it before even showing it to you.

[Anonymous No.6389472]

>>6389459
>again, an artist can draw a long, top quality comic in a week with AI.
Show me one single example of this or you are talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.6389476]

>>6389469
I pay a lot of attention to artists, because my hobby is writing. I've been pouring my soul into writing for the last 10 years, and every day I practice. I feel empathy for people who also pour their everything into their art.

That being said, I'm also a tech optimist. When GPT3 came out, the first thing I tried was to get it to help write my novel. I think AI will create art of far higher tiers, previously unimaginable. My novel can now become a fully illustrated novel, with images every few pages, which was previously impossible because I don't intend to sell my books so no budget.

The competition for artists, is not AI art, rather its tiktok, its youtube, people's attention is limited, so you want your own art to be so good, it commands and dominates people's attention. AI will help artists reach that goal, and attain incomes they previously thought impossible.

[Anonymous No.6389480]

The fruits of AI research are only just starting to show up in the world, this has been many decades in the making. Smartphones, cars, doorbells, watches, games, thermostats, lighbulbs are all running AI algorithms. Shit's gonna be wild, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.6389481]

>>6389471
>Also idk how you could earn more money from prompting
Its not about making money from prompting, prompting is a relatively easy skill though important, like using google is.

Its about doing what the AI can't do, like storytelling.
Why are illustrators only making 1 image a week? Why can't they draw 20 images a week, and chain them into a short comic?
The AI is not good enough to do comics yet (need stronger controllability), but it'll be there in a year. Then we can see an explosion in creativity, like how youtube creates jobs thought impossible.

>>6389472
https://www.google.com/search?q=beastiary+chronicles&rlz=1C1CHBF_zh-TWAU870AU870&oq=beastiary+chronicles&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2j69i65l3j69i61l2.2120j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
There you go.
Its certainly not top quality, because this was made with Midjourney v3, far behind v4. The authors had to design a story that would work within the limitations of Midjourney v3.
But you can see the potential behind this technology, in a year, it'll be a true cambrian explosion of comic books, with art quality previously unthinkable.

[Anonymous No.6389487]

>>6389481
>an artist can draw a long, top quality comic in a week with AI
>this comic isn't top quality, but

anon...

[Anonymous No.6389489]

>>6389446
>>6389434
>>6389363
>>6389366
Stable Diffusion was lobotomized thanks to removing copyrighted material, and that was open source company which was not even making money from the model. Midjurney who are 100% for profit and with closed source versions will get smacked very soon. The datasets are not public, but if we will manage to force AI companies (not just artbots) to be open about their collection of data and have it copyrighted, then we will see these companies go out in shambles. And that is again not just the art ones, but also the other ones who want to undercut other workers.

[Anonymous No.6389490]

>>6389476
I guarantee AI art will become associated with low-budget projects and deviantart-tier autism and will be seen as cringe and unprofessional. Anything that becomes too accessible too the masses kinda does this.

AI art will become the desktop publishing mom creating posters with Wordart of the 2020's and I think its hilarious.

[Anonymous No.6389491]

>>6389481
Not really a comic is it? just a single image for each page with generic as fuck text.

[Anonymous No.6389493]

>>6389490
Digital art is not seen as cringe and unprofessional.
Neither is photography.
But starting out, both mediums were viewed as cringe compared to the more prestigious and mature old methods.

>>6389487
>>6389491
If you guys call yourselves artists, with this little imagination of where the technology will go, you'll have a tough future man.
That comic was made with an extremely immature, prototype level technology in midjourney v3, go check out what midjourney v4 can do now. And its only been 5 months.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/z3i4e7/i_took_my_prompts_from_june_and_redid_now_in/
If you can't see where this technology is going, I don't what to say to you.

[Anonymous No.6389495]

>>6389490
But if the AI art will look better then your art, then it will just drag the whole medium with it. All pictures will get drowned into the abyss with this retard normies making trash with it.

[Anonymous No.6389497]

>>6389476
>my hobby is writing.
I fucking knew it, you hobbyists going on about how AI is going to "empower artists" are always losers that have no skin in the game and have accomplished absolutely nothing. Your opinion is as worthless as any other /g/ tourist that comes in here. Fuck off with your kool aid already.

[Anonymous No.6389498]

How does it feel when KoboldAI replace you?

[Anonymous No.6389499]

>>6389491
just checked and he has advanced to using some panels in his later comics.(the Grace Kelly teacher one)

[Anonymous No.6389501]

>>6389493
It's a cope to pretend that AI is like changing medium.

If you want to use photography as an example, AI art will be the equivalent of using generic stock photos rather than using a professional photographer.

[Anonymous No.6389502]

>>6389493
>If you can't see where this technology is going
I see where it is going. Humans need not apply. Your personal AI comic or animation will not make the slightest splash in the sea of targeted fully AI driven content.

[Anonymous No.6389506]

>>6389501
These retards actually think typing a few words and rolling a seed is similar to actually drawings. They actually think they're artists. That's why they always make such retarded comparisons.

[Anonymous No.6389507]

>>6389493
If you're so sure where technology is going why aren't you off creating great works of creative expression with your image generators rather than hanging around here making cope posts?

[Anonymous No.6389508]

>>6389493
I have a question I dont seem to find answer to. How do you use Midjurney V4? I joined their server and tried it out because the reddit post you send it the biggest rape I have seen, especially the dwarf. When I joined there with fresh new account, I tried putting there simple "pixelart balrog" and it game me fat stinker of a picture not even closely resembling Balrog or pixelart. I tried putting there "stary night" and it gave me again the same V3 style painting goop that it was giving 2 months ago.
Genuine question since I want to see how powerful it is with my own hands.

[Anonymous No.6389510]

>>6389459
I was just letting you know he was shitting on you you fucking autist

[Anonymous No.6389511]

>>6389502
I don't particularly care.
I wrote my book for myself, I want it to be the best it can be. If other people want to read it, great, otherwise whatever.

Also, the odds of a pure text novel succeeding in a world dominated by tiktok and youtube is miniscule anyways, so I believe AI benefits my odds.

>>6389507
I do spend a few hours a day working on it, but I'm curious of how artists think and act.

>>6389497
My day job has many parts being automated too, but I'm embracing it. Automation creates value, and that value can be captured by you.
Also, if you just want artists echo-chamber hugboxing each other, that may not be the best way of coping with a new world.

>>6389508
I don't really use MJv4, I use nijijourney, which is the same technology but focuses on anime, you can sign up for the beta,and its free, they are admitting people in right now.

[Anonymous No.6389515]

>>6389511
The fact that you said you're "curious of how artists think and act" and not "curious of how other artists think and act" is telling.

I'm not surprised though, you speak like someone who doesn't understand art, artists, or the creative process.

[Anonymous No.6389517]

>>6387397
now do this anon

[Anonymous No.6389529]

>>6389515
Perhaps, I'm a hobby writer, not an artist
Because of my day job though, I do understand
technology, how disruptive technologies get developed and adopted, and what happens to companies that thrive or get crushed by the disruption.

It is very surprising to me how artists reacted.
Because novelists generally speaking, did not care about writing AI at all, nobody feels threatened. (Generic marketing writers are getting replaced, but everybody hates them anyones, like corporate memphis artists)
Programmers generally happily adapted copilot, the lawsuit not withstanding, programmers have a culture of always wanting the latest tools.
How artists reacted has been extremely different, hence my curiosity.

[Anonymous No.6389530]

Just checked Nijijourney
Its over, its fucking over, it wont improve because there is no room for improvement, its the end, this is not shitpost, this is warning for suicide. AI learned how to make soul. There is no reason to live anymore. GG

[Anonymous No.6389531]

>>6389530
Now make 2 characters interact in a meaningful way. (hardmode, no pron)

[Anonymous No.6389532]

>>6389530
nice demoralization post, fag.

[Anonymous No.6389533]

>>6389530
Unless someone made a sketch and colored each one of these illustrations I could not give a shit.

[Anonymous No.6389536]

>>6389529
Writers don't feel threatened because GPT-3 is so absurdly far from writing a coherent novel. The first paragraph it writes is compelling but it all falls apart in the following paragraphs as it forgets almost every key detail.

It doesn't conceptually understand anything it's writing about. You will probably get AGI before you get a model that writes a coherent best selling novel.

[Anonymous No.6389538]

>>6389536
Exactly, it appears text transformers still can't do long stories, hence my disappointment.
But this is precisely the opportunity for artists, because AI won't be able to do comic books or animation for the same reason, this is their chance.

[Anonymous No.6389540]

>>6389531
>>6389530
The AI art is soo good now, once it becomes easy to sell business, and then when it will go third round around the internet, it will be over.
>First round was Dall-E mini making cursed blob images
>Second round was early SD and Midjurney winning art contest
>Third will be people making photorealistic soulful content with just 4 words connected together
And once third meme wave comes in, then we will see artists losing jobs at mass.

[Anonymous No.6389542]

>>6389530
How much theft went into this one?

[Anonymous No.6389544]

>>6389540
AI has been good for a while now(artbreeder 2018), I am yet to save a single image generated by it(outside of using it for examples in threads here), because there is nothing to aspire to there, no intent, no soul, it's just made by AI, so who gives a shit?
pic rel was 2018.

[Anonymous No.6389545]

>>6389544
might have been 2019 for portraits.

[Anonymous No.6389546]

>>6389531
>>6389532
>>6389533
You cant tell me that this is not insanely impressive. The best model before this and Midjurney V4 was NovelAI, which had all the images look the same with same artstyle. This thing can do simple soulful art no problem. Dynamic poses? No problem. Clothing? No problem. In previous models you were at least able to tell if it was made by AI or not. Now it is no longer possible, now it can mimic any artstyle under the sun and invent new ones.

[Anonymous No.6389549]

>>6389544
>no soul
Look at >>6389530
Every pic there has soul

[Anonymous No.6389550]

>>6389544
interesting, I have 10000+ files in my AI art folder lol

[Anonymous No.6389552]

>>6389550
did you generate them?

[Anonymous No.6389554]

>>6389549
Soul of the original artists poking through perhaps. but it's an interpolation.

[Anonymous No.6389555]

>>6389552
Most of them, yes

[Anonymous No.6389556]

>>6389549
It's impressive how many styles it can do, but I really dislike all of those. I still prefere the current "souless" shit.

[Anonymous No.6389558]

Keep drawing and forget the AIniggers. When they all upload their minds to the matrix, we'll just spill some water and watch them get fried in their faggot boxes in real time.

[Anonymous No.6389560]

>>6389530
>>6389546
Its really good, but remember Nijijourney has only been aroun for a few months. Their current product is still a first iteration, with a long way to go and improve.
In a year's time, you'll truly understand what AI is capable of.

[Anonymous No.6389561]

>>6389555
I suspected as such, so you didn't really save them in the sense I was talking.

[Anonymous No.6389562]

>>6389560
Stop replying to yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.6389563]

>>6389562
Being a schizo won't save you, I've already posted what Niji could do much earlier on, not sure why you guys reacted so much to a platter of much less impressive generations.

[Anonymous No.6389564]

>>6389530
It's really low seeing that they targeting the styles of lower skill amateur artists in their databases.

The tech is impressive, but its something I won't be supporting at all, this is extremely fucked up.

Seeing images like that feel a bit disgusting knowing that the original artists were uncredited.

As I keep saying, there is no way to stop the tech, so which hunting and cancel culture have a great use now to stop the humans behind it to use it with without social repercussions, if it got StableDiffusion to drop several artists and famous people from its database, it can absolutely be done against midjourney.

Just band up and abuse the living shit of AI " artists" online, until the negative repercussions far outweigh the possinble clout they could get.

[Anonymous No.6389567]

>>6389561
Fair enough, I usually prefer the stuff I make myself. But I have saved some stuff from other people, like picrel

[Anonymous No.6389568]

>>6389564
You kind of misunderstand the engine of progress here.
Midjourney is funded by its subscribers, as long as people keep happily subscribed, nothing can destroy midjourney.
If you sue them, they can pack up and move to dubai or the bahamas or somewhere with looser regulations. Companies like binance can exist, worth billions, without being legal in any major country.
That's if you can get that far of course, which will be very very difficult, because there will soon be more people sharing AI art than there are artists today.

[Anonymous No.6389571]

>>6389563
I don't care about what your toy can do nor do I care how it looks
>>6389564
This
Aishit is stealing and these companies are so desperate for attention that they steal more and more from people who can't defend themselves from it amateurs and pros alike just as long as they can feed it into their sieve

[Anonymous No.6389572]

>>6389560
Well, AI is a computer program, it's obvious it can far suppress human abilities in absolutely anything practical, like analyzing and memorizing patterns of countless images.

What I wonder is, what is the point of letting a computer make your art? We're not talking about doing complicated math operations for us, doing repetitive tasks in a fabric, were talking about giving away an intrinsic trait of human nature. It's like saying: "computer, dance for us".

[Anonymous No.6389575]

>>6389546
i'm not saying it isn't impressive. but i've been impressed with the results with ai for a while now, and it hasn't killed my will to draw or continue to improve in it, and i don't want anyone else to feel that way either.
even still, i can't say i like ai... i wonder how this all will progress...

[Anonymous No.6389576]

>>6389572
Personally, I'm a writer.
Seeing my characters come to life on a page is absolutely magical and mindblowing.

There exists people who like art, and people who don't care (They will spend their money on travelling and sports). Artists exist because people are willing to spend money on art, why are you then suprised that these same people love infinite art generators that can be customized to their personal will?

[Anonymous No.6389577]

>>6389572
Well, nobody asked for it and yet you still get replaced. Automation is extremely cruel. Just because your job is pointless does not mean it wont be automated.

[Anonymous No.6389581]

>>6389575
??らすな手ち
When Image AI learns japanese... it's over.

[Anonymous No.6389583]

>>6389581
Nijijourney already supports Japanese prompts, in fact a good 30% of the prompts I see are Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6389584]

>>6389568
Its ok, the art community justs need to make people posting AI art online the moral equivalents of pedophiles.

I'm not calling for a law regulation, I am calling for a reputation destruction similar to what happened to NFTs.

Absolutely doable.

[Anonymous No.6389589]

>>6389583
not what I mean. The text in the image itself. Since parti and imagen can do text, I imagine we are not far off.

[Anonymous No.6389590]

>>6389584
It will be an uphill battle. but I am all for it. Keep documenting the AI-fags(like the recent babyfur guy). meme them. meme AI to death.

[Anonymous No.6389591]

>>6389572
>What I wonder is, what is the point of letting a computer make your art?
Nothing good. AI "art" is an expression of our degenerate habit of seeking new and shiny thing to be excited about and then forsake it for next new and shiny thing endlessly. Our attention spans are already completely fried and this technology will only make it worse. It's tech that no one asked for, that fixes no problems, and that will only drag us down further into the consumerist nightmare we are already in.

[Anonymous No.6389594]

>>6389575
It is still a soulless shit. Even when they try to copy simpler art styles, they can't still hide the fact that they smash ton of photo in one setting. Look closely you can notic mistake made by AI and mistake made by artists. Mistakes made by artists are sovl while mistake made by AI are soulless and an insult to art.

[Anonymous No.6389600]

>>6383322
>likes
bots
really i don't see any engagement on it

[Anonymous No.6389603]

>>6389576
You're talking about people that like to look at images. I'm talking about erasing a natural human trait, we all draw as kids, it's part of human nature. So, yeah, let's automate making friends, let's automate writing, let's automate thinking, let's automate living.


>>6389577
It is not my job, but even my job will be eventually replaced by machines and yours too, unless your job is being a multi millionaire.


Anyway, it's obvious that everyone using AI for art is quite happy, they can have unilimited image generation for free! Great isn't it? But really, don't you ever worry about the future? Are you just happy you're profiting without ever thinking it will get to you eventually?

[Anonymous No.6389608]

>>6377361
>https://twitter.com/Zb0l0/status/1592853316266254336/photo/1
7659 likes
only 5(five) comments...

[Anonymous No.6389614]

>>6389590
But thats the good news, we thought StableDiffusion was invulnerable, but version 2.0 already dropped several painters and famous artists, NSFW, and famous persons from it's code, they said the AI can't unlearn but it's a lie, version 2.0 is notably worse at these subjects.

They absolutely can finetune the official models to blacklist some specific generations, and I am pretty sure some pressure was made so it would happen.

They are so aware of the issue that DanceDiffusion only ever samples public domain music, they are not untouchable and some preasssure worked.

If visual artists made life living hell for people trying to push this unethical AI art, we wouldn't need to wait for regulation to catch up, we just need to highlight that the mass thieft of artwork and meme the shit out of these people as scammers.

Maybe I am thinking high, but a merciless witch hunting movement could help scare some investors if we tarnish the reputation of AI generators enough amongst the art cycle they desire to much to be a part of.

Regulation is a decade away, but the thing we can control right here and right now, is the social reception of the tech, and simply not let these scammers get away, a anything goes doxxing, harassment and reputation destruction campaign with several artists with tens of thousands followers each participating.

[Anonymous No.6389615]

>>6389608
It stands to reason that if AI fags don't care about organic art they won't care about organic clout.

[Anonymous No.6389616]

>finally at bump limit
RIP

[Anonymous No.6389619]

>>6389466
>Macodnald
Sirs
>>6389459
>earn more
Wagie wagie

[Anonymous No.6389620]

>>6389614
Lmao kinda like what happened with Shexyo lol.

Just need to be merciless with these fucks.

[Anonymous No.6389626]

>>6389614
but most people like AI art, how is this ever going to work?

[Anonymous No.6389630]

>>6389614
Based, this needs to happen. It shows that taking out copyrighted material damages these models. Midjurney should be now easier target since you can legally force them to show their dataset and then once you strip them of the artwork, they will release next version on their discord and people won’t be able to go back to previous versions. Same with NovelAI. Stable was the strongest one because of open source. Now the higher quality closed source ones should fall faster.

[Anonymous No.6389639]

>>6389362
>hard to prove in court

[Anonymous No.6389652]

>>6389626
Most people are meaningless, our first target are not tasteless normies, They were never interested in art and will never be, once we poison the well normies will lose interst in AI quickly.

The goal is to make AI art unpalatable INSIDE the digital art cycles, how? By doing the same thing we did with DeviantART, Throw them to the ground and kick their ribs and nuts, and keep kicking, over and over and over and over again.

targeted, focused, mass harassment over any name trying to bring AI art inside the art community, make it unwelcoming, make it clear they don't belong, drive them the fuck OUT and CHASE them away.

We can't control the tech, but we can poison the social environment against the current implementation.

[Anonymous No.6389655]

>>6389652
>DeviantART
But that's exactly my point. DeviantArt is still the second biggest art website in the world and they embrace AI, and you know who the biggest is? Pixiv, they also embrace AI. It's over.

[Anonymous No.6389662]

>>6389655
I agree, it’s impossible to make AI go away, at least for now. Maybe in like 10 to 15 years, when AI take the jobs of everyone that is happily embracing AI art, we may have some discussion about this ridiculous and obsession that tech maniacs have to automate things.

[Anonymous No.6389666]

>>6389662
>when AI take the jobs

[Anonymous No.6389673]

I wonder if there will ever be a good community online for painters if AI really does take over. Maybe something like oekaki, I have no idea...

[Anonymous No.6389683]

>>6389655
I honestly don't see a bright future for dA and pixiv ahead, they are taking a lot of shit for it and seem to be on a clear downward spiral since then.

the truth is these companies NEED their generators to be accepted by the art community because they want to ride on the clout of digital artists free of effort, artists are simply telling them to go suck a dick and sell that shit to NFT scammers instead and isolating AI art from the art community as a whole.

with enough negative reprecussion, efforts from competitors to build ethically sourced AIs that can actually help artists will be able to thrive, as much as I hate them, Adobe has StabilityAI and MidJourney beat on that front, they seem to make a huge effort to make sure everything is licensed and sourced, I could see them being the first ones to monetize for the artists themselves, ethical uses of AI in a way these thieving fuckers do not.

[Anonymous No.6389706]

>>6389576
It's ALWAYS the writer that shit over art and artist.
Just what's wrong with them holy shit, even on indie circle the one who comes out as problematic client is always the writer. They shit on Art and Music 24/7, even my composer friend said if they can they always avoid working with writers unless it's reputable one

[Anonymous No.6389721]

>>6389706
only artists understand why this AI shit the way is implemented right now is a massive scam.

to researchers is like an AI got fed a shit ton of academic research, started writing some of it verbatim and simply didn't give out any source or attribution as the output, and then retarded tech startups started pushing that shit to be accepted by scientists as a revolution to science, instead of being told to go suck a dick and die.

[Anonymous No.6389757]

>>6389721
The problem is that everyone is thinking it’s great, because they can have unlimited instant image generation for free. That’ll only become a problem when see more and more of those AI stealing stuff from other jobs.

[Anonymous No.6389763]

>>6389757
https://twitter.com/BG_5you/status/1578146498768175105

not everyone thinks this, AI didn't win the hearts and minds battle at all.

people overwhelmingly prefer art made by actual human artists and see AI art as a uncanny, weird imitation.

[Anonymous No.6389779]

>>6389763
lmao, I am willing to keep and maintain a fake twitter account just to do this shit if some famous artist dies, only to tank the reputation of AI art further.

[Anonymous No.6389806]

>>6389779
>>6389763
The public opinion is indeed the most effective weapon. Hey still can’t say I’m positive that most people dislike the idea of automation of art, but making atrocious things, like a model from an artist that just passed away is a great way to achieve that.

[Anonymous No.6389962]

>>6389410
I don't know the specifics but I'd say you're right to advise people to be wary. It's garbage now. But anyone with two braincells can tell it can only get better. Playing with a lion cub.

[Anonymous No.6390826]

>>6389481
so, two more weeks? hahahah

[Anonymous No.6390975]

>>6389615
>they won't care about organic clout.

They do. They operate account with alot of bump bots and algorithm promotion, these things paid with cash. That explain why they have alot of followers but very little of them actually gives a shit about the guy they are following. Because their reach and clout is fake. You can watch this document to see what those Proompters did. They became quite salty due to the loss of cash with no proper growth, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWYiDjYi88&loop=0

[Anonymous No.6391171]

>>6389357
>Nijijourney
what
https://nijijourney.com/
this???

[Anonymous No.6391172]

>>6389379
>block list.
lmao

[Anonymous No.6391176]

>>6389442
lmao

[Anonymous No.6391177]

>>6389462
SD is dead
it's midjouney time to shine!

[Anonymous No.6391180]

>>6389498
>KoboldAI
is it a furry model?

[Anonymous No.6391183]

>>6389530
>Nijijourney
link?

[Anonymous No.6391234]

>>6391176
All of the AIggers and 3rd worlders reusing this saying have no clue what he actually meant by this kek

[Anonymous No.6391588]

>>6372731
This anon gets it.

It's the same reason people watch champion weightlifters, but nobody cares about forklift operators, even if they are moving more weight.

Seeing human excelence is one of the aspects of art, and that is one of the things that can never be taken away by ai.

[Anonymous No.6392399]

i am kinda retarded and missed all ai threads(because i was drawing)
can people just collectivly sue novel ai for copyright or any other ai programm? like people saying that novel ai had model trained on danbooru and that model have been leaked
like here is idea. only thing people what from ai art is anime. the only way ai can get result that looks like good anime picture is with huge data set of stolen copyrighted images. make them stop stealing art and the only thing ai would be able to generate is some lame ass photos that nobody cares about
the argument "that ai uses bRaIn LiKe A HuMan tHaT s Why tHerE is ComPlex MatH and whatever" is pure copium.
like seriously if you see any good made anime ai art its because it's pretty much have been generated illegally
like the only way they can replace artist is by stealing that artist art.
if there is new cool artstyle they wouldn't be able to reproduce it without stealing it
sue them or idk make them respect our copyright rights and the problem will go away(probably)

[Anonymous No.6392402]

>>6389615
Of course they do. Otherwise they wouldnt share their proompts on twitter/pixiv/DA