sustainability of twitter as a nsfw artist

[Anonymous No.6364246]

this information only pertains to artists who's livelihood is primarily dependent on twitter. with all the drama surrounding new subscription based features why is no one talking about how NSFW art accounts are getting "shadowbanned" like crazy right now? ESPECIALLY for anime. so even if you did pay for this shitty sub you're still getting pushed to the bottom algorithmically no matter what. even with my 12k followers i struggle to get enough commissions for the month to make ends meet. this isn't fair bros.

i'd say switch to pixiv or baraag but lets face it the hoard of normalfags and brain dead consumers are what we live on. i don't see myself making it another year in this.

[Anonymous No.6364251]

Just use hive

[Anonymous No.6364254]

>>6364246
>MUH COMMISSION MONEY MUH FOLLOWERS MU-
i genuinely loathe you twitter faggots shitting up this board. a bunch of sexually disturbed vermin who survive like mold who only give a fuck about using people to make the bare minimum to live. one step above a whore who feels empowered posting pictures of her asshole online to loners and the depraved, or in this case terminally online porn addicts. go back to twitter and fucking stay there, keep your trash contained. continue your shitpost fotm meta to make ends meet you fucking vermin (or get a real job).

[Anonymous No.6364261]

>>6364254
comms are for specialized fetishes and peoples desires to see their characters drawn by a highly skilled artist. very very very often do commissioners return and are repeat customers. not that you would know because your post reeks of cope, dipshit. twitter numbers are just an ego boost i suppose. a bonus. comms are only boring and soul crushing if anything.

tl;dr: you don't know what you're talking about btfo loser lmfao you will NEVER make it kekw

[Anonymous No.6364266]

>>6364254
The only important thing on this board is the quality of somebody's work.
I draw NSFW for a living. Here's my work.
Now post yours please.

[Anonymous No.6364325]

>>6364246
>the hoard of normalfags and brain dead consumers are what we live on.
true
what a sad state of affairs

[Anonymous No.6364393]

I see a lot of fear mongering on Twitter, I assume primarily because a lot of artists are lefty retards.
Is there actually anything different now than there was before though? The people I see tweets from doesn't seem to be any different than it was before, just now I see every artist crying about a supposed shadow ban and losing all reach if they don't pay for a checkmark.

[Anonymous No.6364397]

>>6364266
based
cute art anon, i hope that twitter shitstorm blows over or a viable alternative rises

[Anonymous No.6364403]

>>6364246
Oh hey what a coincidence. My account with just about 1.2k followers are on ghost ban and search ban too. Thanks papa Elon!

[Anonymous No.6364411]

>>6364246
>algorithm
retweets are retweets

[Anonymous No.6364415]

>>6364246
Literally all nfsw accounts were shadow banned before autismo musk took over. So drop retarded bitching.

[Anonymous No.6364484]

>>6364246
isn't it weird how rats liking cheese is universal yet most rats in the world have probably never eaten any cheese and if they do it's right before their death cause it was placed on a trap.

[Anonymous No.6365059]

>>6364254
>>6364266
Destroyed lol.

[Anonymous No.6365103]

>>6364266
coming from the guy that doesn't RT anybody and reaps the benefits. i don't need you

[Anonymous No.6365115]

>>6364246
does twitter not let you see your followers? I dont have any so...

[Anonymous No.6365118]

>>6364254
real jobs do not exist.

[Anonymous No.6365121]

>>6364484
I left some hard cheese in a cabinet outside and out of all of my food in that cabinet they zeried in on the hard cheese and ate it, you could see their little paw prints scraping it. they ignored everything else

[Anonymous No.6365130]

>>6364254
>>6364266
bbc chan mogging these bullshit pretenders will never not be funny

[Anonymous No.6365211]

>>6364254
Seething failed NSFW artist detected

[Anonymous No.6365237]

>>6364266
What does your art say about the quality of your opinions? That they are stuck in a perverted variant of your childhood?

[Anonymous No.6365246]

>>6365118
How is being a construction worker not a real job?

[Anonymous No.6365257]

>>6365246
fake housing market, fake money, fake economy, fake regulations, fake auditing.

[Anonymous No.6365269]

>>6365257
But that's all real though? "Fake" is not defined by 'thing you don't understand'.

[Anonymous No.6365293]

>>6364246
You should have two accounts then. One for SFW and another one for NSFW. Or post NSFW on Tumblr.

[Anonymous No.6365304]

>>6365293
How many fucking time do we have to tell you that tumblr is not bringing NSFW back you goddamn braindead retard.

[Anonymous No.6365309]

>>6364246
>nsfw artist
it's called porn, retard
stop using these faggot euphemisms, you're a whore and you draw porn
know your place, faggot, on your knees sucking dick for pocket change

[Anonymous No.6365315]

>>6365309
You sound horny

[Anonymous No.6365317]

>>6365246
If you're building homes for free for the disabled, them sure. Otherwise you're just making some lazy Schlmomo richer.

[Anonymous No.6365318]

>>6365315
ya I get my rocks off parasites dying of starvation

[Anonymous No.6365321]

>>6364246
got a similar amt of followers to you and I'm worried... I feel like i've spent YEARS honing my following, finally getting reblogs from big names, interacting with some of my favorite artists. I cannot go back to furaffinity. That place is a cesspool worse than twitter with an interface that hasn't changed since I started using it in 2008......

[Anonymous No.6365322]

Are there any places where you won't have your life ruined by posting loli? I'm not even talking NSFW just cute lolis being cute.

[Anonymous No.6365323]

>>6365309

[Anonymous No.6365326]

>>6365322
Baraag. Granted, most of your followers will probably be coomers.

[Anonymous No.6365334]

>>6365321
>>6364266
Fellow artists. Could you give me your thoughts on hentai foundry for NSFW art?

[Anonymous No.6365351]

>>6365334
I used to post on there years ago. They have (or at least had) some level of quality review for submissions, so at least it filters out the garbage.

[Anonymous No.6365368]

>>6365351
Thank you. Also, are you thinking about paying 8 bucks on Twitter? I'm a bit of an attention whore so I might.

[Anonymous No.6365372]

>>6365368
GOOD GOY LOL

[Anonymous No.6365377]

>>6365103
I reap the benefits of my work. I never in my lige expected any big artist to retweet my stuff and never licked anyone's ass in order for that to happen.
I suggest you to man up and stop crying like a little bitch.

Also, at the big tumblr exodus I promoted at least 500 smaller artists that migrated to twitter.

[Anonymous No.6365378]

>>6365368
Oh, oops, to be clear, I'm neither of the artists you referenced, so I apologize if you were only wanting their input.
I rarely use Twitter for art, and really don't post publicly at all, only really sharing things with friends and commissioners.

[Anonymous No.6365384]

>>6365237
My art says that I draw what people request me to draw for them.
Satisfying my clients is my n1 priority.
I'm a commercial illustrator. I don't care about "art and people that smell their own farts".

[Anonymous No.6365387]

>>6365378
It's great to hear everyone's opinion on this so I appreciate your response. This whole Twitter thing is just a pain in the butt

[Anonymous No.6365397]

>>6364246
What are the top sites people use for art?
Deviantart, Pixiv and Twatter?
I've always drawn in the closet but I finally feel the urge to let people see my shit.

[Anonymous No.6365424]

>>6365269
you are right, it is defined as something that doesn't actually exist, like telling people instead of finishing a hole with shovels, they have to use spoons because of the law.

The fake housing market makes actual homes overvalued by printing money to prop up the economy
the fake money means that all of the hard work anyone does is not ever actually rewarded
the fake economy means that long term gains are essentially impossible as your money can be taken directly from you for bad social credit (see paypal) or even just to pay welfare parasites,
fake regulations create an envioronment of beurocrats that overcharge both the contractors customers and the contractor
and fake auditing ensures that the construction worker was never allowed to build anything of value to most people anyway, and you're better off doing it yourself.

[Anonymous No.6365556]

>>6365322
Who actually has had 'life ruined by posting loli' lmao
shad doesn't count, he's STILL making it, and it's less drawing loli and more drawing someone's actual daughter

[Anonymous No.6365566]

>>6365556
he's not making it anymore in jail

[Anonymous No.6365594]

>>6365384
>will draw anything for money
>people who pay you are your highest priority in life
Even worse than my first guess.

[Anonymous No.6365608]

>>6365424
The housing market may not work the way you want but the houses you can acquire through it are very real.
The currency may be a fiat currency but the economy it supports is very real. Everything in your home is probably acquired through it.
You can claim regulations and audits are fake but if you test that theory you will learn that the consequences of doing that are very real.

Having conspiracies about the workings of the world is fine and all but sometimes you got to take that reality check and realize that while these concepts may just be human constructs they are still very real as far as you and I are concerned.

[Anonymous No.6365622]

>>6365556
I just want to share my cute girls with the world man.

[Anonymous No.6365634]

>>6365622
Don't be a pedo. Problem solved. Now you can share cute girls with the world.

[Anonymous No.6365679]

>>6365608
>The housing market may not work the way you want but the houses you can acquire through it are very real.
no they aren't.
they lack the capacity to do their function
>The currency may be a fiat currency but the economy it supports is very real.
no it isn't. they print more money all the time and make us take on debt involentarily to keep their investments secure while our assets and businesses are crushed
>everything in the home you don't have is acquired through it.
planned obselecense, toys for children bought with monopoly money and good boy points
>but if you test that theory you will learn they are very real
so youre saying if I held a gun to your head and said to draw porn that would make it a real job? lmaoing at your cope right now.

>conspiracies
Oh i see you're just a glownigger
move along fed.

[Anonymous No.6365728]

>>6365322
you wouldn't be calling it loli if you weren't drawing weird pedophile shit

[Anonymous No.6365737]

>>6365728
You can't even draw sfw teenage characters without fags like you throwing a fit.

[Anonymous No.6365739]

>>6365594
>>will draw anything for money
Nope. I have dos and don'ts in my guidelines.
You should really stop seething. You look like a dumbass, you ass licking excuse of an artist.

[Anonymous No.6365751]

>>6365594
>>will draw anything for money
Nope. I have dos and don'ts in my guidelines.
You should really stop seething, just because your ass licking didn't produce any results. Maybe instead of sticking your nose into bigger artist's anuses, try to improve your skills, so that people retweet you for genuine reasons.

[Anonymous No.6365764]

>>6365751
>Nope. I have dos and don'ts in my guidelines
I you say so, good.

>You should really stop seething, just because your ass licking didn't produce any results. Maybe instead of sticking your nose into bigger artist's anuses, try to improve your skills, so that people retweet you for genuine reasons.
You are the guy who thinks drawing sexualized children game art makes your opinion on Twitter more valued compared to the other guy.
While you are a bit of a dumbass, still when it comes to drawing cute animals and boobies you could call yourself an authority. When it comes to the macro perspective of Twitter as media platform not so much. Your mind is way too focused on excrement for that.

[Anonymous No.6365766]

>>6364393
This. Twitter is still the fucking same as of me typing this post.

[Anonymous No.6365772]

>>6365764
I'm glad you think my art is good. That's really all that matters to me, since I don't care about stone age puritan mentality BS.

[Anonymous No.6365780]

>>6365237
some faggots unironically base their cringe "OCS" around that entirely

[Anonymous No.6365781]

>>6364254
>still hasn't posted work
holy shit get destroyed NGMI crab shitter

[Anonymous No.6365791]

>>6365737
theyre not fags, theyre women. they hate competition as they are used up whores. pedos only get the rope if they can't get over their dumb fetish by the time theyre married to the loli who is definitely going to grow up.
>>6365772
this thread is mostly about the ops lack of self awareness that plenty of people care about that BS

[Anonymous No.6365868]

>>6365246
If you're judging whether or not something is a 'real job' based on the physical labour you do, Art is very much in the 'real job' side of the spectrum.

[Anonymous No.6366934]

>>6365791
>theyre not fags, theyre women. they hate competition as they are used up whores. pedos only get the rope if they can't get over their dumb fetish by the time theyre married to the loli who is definitely going to grow up.
noone like pedophiles but other pedophiles retarded.

[Anonymous No.6369318]

>>6364246
THERE ARE 12 THREADS ABOUT AI UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THERE ARE 19 THREADS ABOUT ELON MUSK OR HOW TO GET POPULAR ON TWITTER UP ON /ic/ RIGHT NOW

THAT'S A TOTAL OF 31 THREADS ABOUT 2 TOPICS

31

THIRTY-MOTHERFUCKING-ONE

XXXI

三十一

THREADS ABOUT AI:

>>6369226
>>6369059
>>6368525
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6367116
>>6367012
>>6366171
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT TWITTER)
>>6363640
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT PIXIV NUMBERS)
>>6357746
>>6357600


THREADS ABOUT NUMBERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA:

>>6369247
>>6368281
>>6367700
>>6367635 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6367438
>>6367280
>>6366264
>>6365807
>>6364656 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6364522
>>6364246
>>6363872
>>6362886 (AND ABOUT AI)
>>6362405
>>6360135
>>6356821
>>6356353
>>6348891

[Anonymous No.6370235]

>>6364266
Is it good money? What is the number 1 skill you'd advice someone to focus on if they want to be able to make cash too?

[Anonymous No.6370311]

>>6370235
the skill of getting retweets. that's all that you need.

[Anonymous No.6370314]

>>6370235
Appeal. Look what other artists you look up to do and try to emulate them.
Also, check pic attached.

[Anonymous No.6370325]

>>6364246
I only have about 4k followers. I'm not as good at drawing as you are, nor do I draw as much overtly sexual shit, but I'm in good hands with the people who follow me. because I work with furries.
I charge well outside the worth of my art (in my opinion) but I never get a chance to lower my prices because people keep buying it. and tipping consistently. even though I'm sort of slow.
granted if twitter falls through I might as well anhero because I know I'm too retarded to get a normal job but furries have held me up so far and I expect it to continue.
>inb4 ez money "how do"
furries can tell when you don't care about anthro art unless you're really skilled, in my opinion. I wouldn't say I'm a "furry" myself but im autistic and have always been drawn to anthros so my art doesn't look phony. also I kissed a little ass and drew a very popular character to get my following so I had to work to this point as well.

[Anonymous No.6370328]

>>6370325
the last part of that post was directed at repliers, not you bbc chan, sorry

[Anonymous No.6373038]

>>6364254
>real job

So you want to destroy your body either by moving too much or too little? You want to have to adhere to the schedule set to you by your wagelord masters? You think you can be satisfied with the fact you're living paycheck to paycheck and all your work benefits someone you will probably never meet instead of yourself?

Or do you want to see your work flourish and grow? Do you want to see others adore what you've worked hard to create and the skills you've poured hours upon hours into honing? Even if you make a little less money than a wagecucking job, I think the personal satisfaction is worth way more than the cash, and there's always room to grow. Humans live for several decades, anon!

[Anonymous No.6373052]

>>6364254
>>6364266
BTFO, holy shit KWAB

[Anonymous No.6375380]

>>6365334
I just made an account this month and I've been waiting in queue for them to approve my shit for 13 days. Unless there's some instant approval process for I guess trusted artists that i can acquire, I'm probably never posting there again if it takes half a month every time to post a piece of work.

Pic rel is mine

[Anonymous No.6375583]

>>6364254
Is this a copypasta? based if true. Either way, post your work faggot.

[Anonymous No.6378205]

>>6364266
How do you post NSFW & not have your name attached to it? Would love to make money on NSFW but I don't want my name attached to the art.

[Anonymous No.6378209]

>>6365293
Tumblr nuked NSFW accounts a long time ago. They used to be the goto place for porn. Now no porn is allowed.

[Anonymous No.6378210]

>>6375380
Thank you :)

[Anonymous No.6378474]

>>6364246
Now that Twitter is dead what's the best place to post as a beginner NSFW artist?

[Anonymous No.6378497]

>>6378205
My legal name isn't attached to any of my artwork
Just make a separate handle. And a separate account for it. Also it's 2022, chances are nobody will give a fuck if they know it's the same person that makes sfw and nsfw art unless sfw is your main source of employment and you make like children's book illustrations.

[Anonymous No.6378610]

>>6364266
Ba sed.
People don't understand wanting to make money from art, fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.6380819]

>>6365377
Holy based.

[Anonymous No.6381825]

>>6366934
pedos as in people attracted to children or people only attracted to children, cause the first category is basically almost all of humanity past a certain age. 11-12 iirc

[Anonymous No.6383874]

>>6364266
Haha. Based bro. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6385737]

>>6364254
As a NSFW twitter artist i do feel like I'm using people and i do feel bad for some of them. I don't think anyone truly wants to work with NSFW, it barely pays, it's a cut throat business and anyone with a graphics tablet can do it so you're fighting for scraps with latins and russians.
I'm gonna keep doing it until i figure out a better way to make money. Until then, my clients are happy with what they're getting and this job gives me a lot of free time.

[Anonymous No.6385741]

If you draw good furry/loli art. Then people will seek you out rather than the other way around.

[Anonymous No.6385772]

>>6364251
>hive
that shit doesn't even has a desktop version lmao

[Anonymous No.6385858]

>>6364246
Coming from a sales background going into art, it depends really upon your network, ability to build connections both IRL and online, and willingness to get yourself out and promote yourself. I found more success going more mainstream with some occasional pinups than I did with NSFW, partially due to my lack of passion for the latter, however the same principle applies. I've had the privilege of meeting some very talented artists with low follower counts, (like 500) who were able to network with major companies and build impressive resumes. One of which, who represents a reputed outsourcing studio, who I will have the pleasure of meeting with sometime after the holidays to discuss a job opportunity.

As for the sustainability of NSFW art, there are a few things to consider. The biggest is that, yes, there is a pending crackdown on NSFW content. It's not apocalyptic, but the signs I saw back three years ago when Tumblr banned it all outright seem to be coming to fruition. If your lewds are fairly safe, you won't have much to worry about too much in the long run. However, keep an eye on the payment processors themselves.

Visa took a massive L in it's lawsuit from a child and sex trafficking victim who's abuse was published on Pornhub (promoted by TrafficJunky), which they refused to take down. Among many other victims. Pornhub was forced to sever ties with their biggest source of ad revenue. Mastercard and Paypal are pressuring Pixiv to remove lolisho, gore, and beastiality content and crackdown on sales for such content. Paypal themselves just instituted a $2,500 in their terms of service for Acceptable Use Policy violations, with can be broadly used against NSFW as a whole, but will likely target harassers and more extreme content creators instead. And since crypto is highly unstable right now as a whole, that's something to be mindful of if you decide to go that route (since you're talking of baraag, I assume you are indeed taking that route).

[Anonymous No.6385932]

>>6385858
>I saw back three years ago when Tumblr banned it all outright seem to be coming to fruition
>three years ago

It's not a secret that once a platform starts to become popular that they begin to ban the adult content. Case in point is DeviantArt.

[Anonymous No.6385945]

>>6385932
Deviantart paywalled NSFW illusttations behind a subscription service. I imagine Twitter will go a similar route down the line with Elon Musk'a recently introduced Twitter Blue service.

[Anonymous No.6385950]

>>6385932
To a degree, though Tumblr was interesting with how suddenly the ban hammer came down. Deviantart did nit outright ban it, but paywalled NSFW illustrations behind a subscription service. I imagine Twitter will go a similar route down the line with Elon Musk's recently introduced Twitter Blue service. And I'm not sure if I stated this or if I was unclear, but the prediction came when I saw most of the pressure was coming from the app stores and payment processors. That it would continue to mount.

[Anonymous No.6388649]

>>6364246
>musk's twitter
>nsfw artist
pffhahahahahaha lmao

[Anonymous No.6388762]

>>6388649
In short, for NSFW artists, unless you already have it made, you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.6389654]

lol

[Anonymous No.6389665]

>>6388649
Wait, the muskrat actually killed coom shit on twitter?

[Anonymous No.6389675]

>>6389665
I wish.

[Anonymous No.6389679]

Just get a job you stupid slut

[Anonymous No.6389713]

Never understood the hype for twitter when Pixiv and DeviantArt bring more traffic and comms and lotsa people use Twitter with their real identity with their family and friends there and have no intention to reveal their smut preferences. Twitter is a shitty art platform.

[Anonymous No.6389714]

>>6389713
Signalboosting is what makes twitter better than a regular gallery. That's it.

[Anonymous No.6389798]

>>6364246
Nsfw accounts always got shadow banned

[Anonymous No.6389807]

>>6365737
That's a big fat lie, like 99% of female artist draw sad looking little Anime girls in cute dresses and nobody screams pedo

[Anonymous No.6389809]

>>6370325
How much do u make?

[Anonymous No.6389822]

>>6389713
Pixiv doesn't do anything for me because i don't understand japanese and that's the primary userbase. All the comms I've received were through twitter

[Anonymous No.6389829]

>>6389822
Odd, my Pixiv is in english and when tagging my stuff I use both english and japanese tags because they bring more viewers from both english and japanese speakers

[Anonymous No.6390230]

>>6389822
>i don't understand japanese
learn japanese

[Anonymous No.6390240]

>>6375380
Good shit, what's your links anon?

[Anonymous No.6390258]

>>6390230
There is no reason for anyone living outside Japan to learn Japanese. Unless you are a protoweeb who need to watch anime in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6390284]

>>6389713
> Pixiv and DeviantArt bring more traffic
Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.6390286]

>>6390284
I'm not? 1400 and 1600 followers in Pixiv and Deviant Art respectively, 300 in Twitter

[Anonymous No.6390354]

>>6364266
>>6364246
I just want a platform where I can throw all of the art I make without any censorship while also monetizing out of it. I havent found one so far though.

[Anonymous No.6390361]

>>6388762
>>6389665
Do people really not know that "sensitive material" was always deboosted from twitter or is this a meme because "Elon bad"

[Anonymous No.6390362]

>>6390354
make your own website

[Anonymous No.6390365]

>>6390286
my guess is that you made your twitter much later than the other two platforms so you already had a fanbase there OR you make really niche porn that gets a following on both pixiv and devintart but is too weird for twitter audiences

[Anonymous No.6390402]

>>6390361
>"sensitive material" was always deboosted
>yet Twitter was known mainly for porn anyway
lol

[Anonymous No.6390426]

>>6390402
Both these things are true my retarded friend. NSFW material had always to be be marked as such or you would get shadowbanned (as in people had to go to your profile to find any post of yours). The reason why they did that was so they don't accidentally let porn go viral. BUT when you mark material as sensitive all of your posts are automatically hidden and can't be viewed till you manually click on it which kills it in the algorithm. So yeah NSFW art was always deboosted on twitter. That's why most porn artist link to their patron or other site where they upload legit porn and only use twitter to promote their shit

[Anonymous No.6391019]

>>6390362
nta, but is it even possible to make the perfect art website for people to post regular and nsfw art? It seems like the moment it gets traction it would be shut down either legally or from lack of funds.

[Anonymous No.6391025]

>>6391019
Depends on where you host it. As for money: It is possible for porn sites to make money so I'm sure you could too.

[Anonymous No.6391032]

>>6391025
I've recently started learning about web development and have been thinking about making something that people need. I'm nowhere close to being able to make it but I'll keep this in mind for when I'm at an intermediate level.
What functions and features would be good to implement? I'm thinking you'd need an option to filter out content based on subject matter, of course. A like and comment feature for engagement? Something similar to twitter, I guess.

[Anonymous No.6391042]

>>6391032
If you want a store then look to how places like Patreon, IndieGogo, Kickstarter and similar does. Their entire business model is selling their user's products which often include comics. There are many new being developed all the time.

If you want art discussion then some of the best I've seen was the now deleted ConceptArt.org. Old style forum with no voting.


What most serious artists do is they make their own site to host and sell their own stuff and then they use established sites for promotion. Trying to build one site for everyone and everything art is going to be a steep mountain of work.

[Anonymous No.6391044]

>>6391042
Why was ConceptArt deleted?

>they make their own site to host and sell their own stuff and then they use established sites for promotion
Well, in that case it sounds like we don't need a specific nsfw site after all. People who like your art can just go to the artist's website. My site wouldn't be able to give them the exposure they need to attract buyers.

[Anonymous No.6391048]

>>6391044
Drama that caused a lot of the pros that were the backbone of the site to leave.

It was a place where people had threads documenting their progress and got advice from old time industrial pros. It was also a great place for networking. There were workshops and RL meet-ups. People went from zeros to heros and got solid careers just from that site.

There has never been something like that since and there probably couldn't be today as things have become too fragmented. A lot of sites have tried to become the new ConceptArt.org.

[Anonymous No.6391052]

>>6391019
The reason Twitter works is because it's a normie site. An art site only reaches people who are interested in art. Twitter forces normies to interact and see content they wouldn't normally see (which is part of why it's such a successful social media platform) and that makes going viral and blowing up as an artist much easier than before.

[Anonymous No.6391056]

>>6391048
That's a shame.
>>6391052
I see. It seems like normies are both the problem and the reason for success.

[Anonymous No.6391059]

>>6364246

Twitter is losing its sjw userbase that never mattered to begin with. The simps will stay regardless.

Give the algo a bit to unfuck itself. Ive actually had a nice little growth of followers since the buyout. Not much small time but it's something I noticed.

If anything the dumbass artists leaving cause they got triggered are doing more harm to themselves than good.

[Anonymous No.6391061]

>>6365334

HF is a waste of time unless you can hit the top. Newgrounds is best for newbie growth. Twitter to maintain. Everything else is just a work dump

[Anonymous No.6391100]

>>6390426
I was rather pointing out the irony of Twitter becoming well-known for porn despite the attempts to hinder it.

[Anonymous No.6391166]

>>6391032
Something like deviantarts gallery function, and a comic viewer with full sized images, back next buttons and page/chapter navigation would already put your art site above the rest. I wouldn't bother trying to copy twitter, as many sites tried and failed in rapid succession. The dopamine hits such as likes and comments can stay though. In terms of modern design and other stuff you can look at the the recently dead sheezy.art on archive.org. Site was incredibly popular from the start but died due to shityy management.

Also creator funding like >>6391042 mentioned. Interestingly all the western sites are barebones (just a blog to post a link, image or video and files). Fantia is probably the most advanced supporting backorder, coins and such with a better ui.

[Anonymous No.6391210]

>>6391166
Okay, I'm taking notes. A mix between what sheezy.art was like with Fantia's advanced features. We need to be able to comfortably read comics and have a likes/comments system. Maybe a forum or a place for journal entries too.
You said that sheezy died because of shitty management. Do you know anything else about that? What mistakes would I need to avoid if I actually make it?

[Anonymous No.6391280]

>>6391052
>The reason Twitter works is because it's a normie site
It's mostly that you can have your feed filled with fresh porn pics from different artists that you follow, along with IRL porn. Used to be you could have that with Tumblr but not anymore.

[Anonymous No.6391519]

>>6391210
>You said that sheezy died because of shitty management. Do you know anything else about that?
As far as I know it was a one person project that started as an unofficial revival of sheezyart. Problem was they never had the rights to the name so there were legal/red flags from the start. Moderators were picked from discord so there was drama and I recall inconsistent policies with adult content. Keep in mind porn will be disallowed with payment processors like paypal where only larger companies are granted exceptions, so you'll need to seek alternatives that allow nsfw for higher fees.
Add to that, immense popularity of thousands of signups per day along with server costs and poor monetization (they used patreon and gave perks), creator platforms are more sustainable taking a cut from transactions.

[Anonymous No.6391954]

>>6391519
>you'll need to seek alternatives that allow nsfw for higher fees.
Nsfw content really throws a wrench in the works, huh. I was looking around Fantia and even they seem to have a policy around it. If I were rich I could just fund everything myself but I'm not so I would need money (and probably advertisers) for the server costs.

Making the perfect art site might be impossible after all. But I still think this is a fun project idea. At the very least, I could make a site that has a great comic viewer and gallery. For now I should think small and work my way up. I mean, there's a reason all the other small art sites failed.

[Anonymous No.6392137]

>>6391954
Yeah if anything, there's a lack of art sites with proper support for comic artists. Maybe it's to do with webtoons and similar taking over that corner. There's definitely room for success, a lot of it is luck but also proper management. Good luck with that future project anon.

[Anonymous No.6392234]

>>6392137
Thanks anon. I'm glad I have a dream project in mind while I'm studying web development now.