/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6354010]

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6351245

[Anonymous No.6354065]

clothed and nude study.

[Anonymous No.6354076]

I am improving slowly in general those last few weeks by drawing often and without missing a day, but I also noticed that I am getting more skilled in doing finished pieces rather than quick drawings (I rely heavy on construction in general for now). Especially in Drawpiles, I can notice how the artists more experienced than me don't really rely on construction much, but rather they simplify all the fundies they learned and apply them to 5 to 20 minutes sketches. I feel like this is what separates a beg from a legit int. My question is: is rgkg something that should be learned on it's own, or it's better I continue studying fundies the same way I've been doing recently and produce way more mindful doodles and sketches to build mileage at the same time? Pic related are my DP doodles from yesterday.

[Anonymous No.6354090]

>>6354076
who is that on the right side of the page? uwu

[Anonymous No.6354097]

>>6354076
based on the 'how to foreshorten?' part, it seems you know some fundamentals in construction but not applying it to perspective, so, do that, use the knowledge you have to try different things, see what works and doesn't, look at what other artists do (not here)

basically just use what you know but try new things, push into areas you haven't yet; as you gain more knowledge and confidence, you'll know how to construct things in more simplified manners just from frequent practice and understanding

[Anonymous No.6354116]

Any tips to improve this.

[Anonymous No.6354122]

>>6354116
refine your basics. Proportion and construction.

[Anonymous No.6354151]

Wake up, /begs/. It's time to draw.

[Anonymous No.6354190]

>>6354151
i cant, my wrist hurts

[Anonymous No.6354193]

>>6354151
Fuck you, nigger. You’re not the boss of me. I hope you get raped to death by aids faggots.

[Anonymous No.6354202]

>>6354151
> Wake up
it's 11 pm where i live

[Anonymous No.6354244]

>>6354190
Stop drawing with your wrist, dummy

[Anonymous No.6354272]

>>6354010
how do i make it clear that she is holding a sword
In general how do you draw a sword when its sharp edge faces the camera.

[Anonymous No.6354301]

>>6354272
I'm a complete /beg/tard but I don't think the sword would look that long in that perspective. Think of a cylinder pointing directly towards the camera, it would look like a flat circle

[Anonymous No.6354308]

>>6354301
does this look better to you?
well i tried making a sword that is at a very very slight angle
then doubled it and overlayed it over itself at a very slight angle.

[Anonymous No.6354309]

>>6354151
And who are you?

[Anonymous No.6354316]

>>6354308
in general i it seems like in most pictures when the sword faces the camera you can only tell the distance by a slight angle giving it away or something

[Anonymous No.6354335]

ok so i just pulled ruler out of my drawer.
I think i figured it out
if i hold it horizontally obviously both my left and right eye look at the same thing
If i hold it vertically however my eyes will see a bit of the side
lets call that side bias with a 50/50 bias on both eyes
if i turn it to the side slightly then i get more bias on the side that is closer to my eye level.

If i use one eye like a camera i can obviously tell it is a ruler even when it is directly facing my eye.
I don't have issues dicerning this but people did have issues with that in the discord.
Could it be because for quite a while i lost sight on one of my eyes due to an illness?

[Anonymous No.6354359]

i drew this tree. any advice?

[Anonymous No.6354360]

>>6354359
that tree has no texture at all!

[Anonymous No.6354378]

>>6354359
no cute random leafs on the branches i cry

[Anonymous No.6354380]

How do I actually improve at figure drawing? My current level is basically pic related. I used like 10-15 minutes breaking down a reference and applying shit I've learned (mostly from Will Weston).
I feel so impatient when I'm drawing figures, my head hurts if I take too long on a piece.

[Anonymous No.6354382]

>>6354380
You want to draw from imagination, right? Follow this goddamn'ed foolproof guide:

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

[Anonymous No.6354383]

i used to hate orange because it reminded me of the intoxicating orangeness i would feel when entering home depot with my mom as a child but it has been growing on me a lot of as recently

[Anonymous No.6354386]

also made a pfp but i just remembered i tend to white wash myself a lot

[Anonymous No.6354390]

>>6354380
You do a shit ton of them
Do them from imagination and from reference.
Draw things you want to draw and apply what you've learned.

[Anonymous No.6354399]

>>6354390
I guess I just have to keep grinding then
Pic related is my current goal, I think he (Stato) does really nice figures
I wanna keep drawing with pencils until I'm great at fundies, then move on to ink drawing + watercolor
Sorry for rant, I'm just frustrated

[Anonymous No.6354410]

>>6354399
why did you ignore me?

[Anonymous No.6354411]

>>6354410
Sorry sweetie, but I hate loomis and bridgeman, they're not for me at all

[Anonymous No.6354416]

>>6354410
please be my girlfriend

[Anonymous No.6354422]

>>6354272
foreshorten it

[Anonymous No.6354426]

>>6354380
i like to do figure drawing but also throw in some type of story using imagination only, so if i use a pose reference, i throw in a character or something that i have managed to learn already to go along with it

it also helps you learn the general idea without burning out just grinding figures all day and night

[Anonymous No.6354461]

even mangaka fuck up perspective

[Anonymous No.6354467]

>>6354461
>mangaka
their entire job is to draw fast and efficiently, so the fundamentals are often wrong or ignored

[Anonymous No.6354472]

>>6354422
i made it shorter but i also rotated it
Is it better?

[Anonymous No.6354475]

>>6354472
by god, i was about to complain about that gargantuan neck but it just seems like a very unfortunate tangent, fix it.

[Anonymous No.6354476]

>>6354461
sovl over fundies, cuck.

[Anonymous No.6354484]

>>6354151
Drawing every day, bro.

[Anonymous No.6354485]

>>6354475
well original sketch had a different neck and i changed it because i thought it looked weird
but what of the sword

[Anonymous No.6354493]

>>6354484
what's that supposed to be?
>>6354461
you bitch I forgot there's a new chapter today

[Anonymous No.6354501]

[Anonymous No.6354511]

Is there a /beg/ discord that isn't filled with NGMI sperglords with delusions of talent?

[Anonymous No.6354512]

>>6354493
>what's that supposed to be?
Guy get's his body eaten by some heads and now the heads control his body. It's kinda like a zombie

[Anonymous No.6354516]

>>6354511
No I'm in every /beg/ discord, you can't escape from me.

[Anonymous No.6354519]

>>6354516
kek

[Anonymous No.6354522]

>>6354511
>using discord

[Anonymous No.6354524]

>>6354522
Nigga I'll come clean with you: I'm tired of the state of the Internet. I understand that an /ic/ thread can be a community by itself but if you want continuous conversation with like minded people we were all collectively backed up against a wall. Forums are dead, Deviantart is dead, Twitter fucking sucks for socializing, Tumblr is in its death throes... what the fuck else do we got left?

[Anonymous No.6354527]

>>6354524
you're right but also wrong in believing that discord is any different

[Anonymous No.6354531]

>>6354524
how do you even find discord servers to join?

[Anonymous No.6354533]

>>6354527
So do I gotta assume communities are dead and buried? Because if I have to go through my /beg/ years without any feedback I'll end up killing myself. Though I concur that Discord is horrid tranny garbage

>>6354531
I have no fucking idea desu

[Anonymous No.6354537]

>>6354533
this place is terrible if you want to get feedback, the vast majority don't draw or only draw anime from reference/tracing

but yep, that's the internet now, you can learn anything yourself but the idea of community to grow and improve together is pretty much dead; your best option is to find some physical or online course (or life drawing sessions) to attend in order to get genuinely useful feedback and find likeminded individuals

if you aren't interested in doing either: your best bet is to just practice like mad and find as many influences to look through in order to see what you're doing wrong and what they're doing right

[Anonymous No.6354541]

>>6354537
Maybe I'm making this sound paradoxical when it probably isn't, but how am I supposed to find influences from (contemporary) illustrators when communities that used to aggregate art are dead? I guess there must be a stop-gap solution with a twitter hashtag or whatever, but going out of my way to *look for* influences feels pretty hard to do as well. As for IRL stuff forget about it, I'm in the middle of nowhere

[Anonymous No.6354546]

>>6354541
Try pinterest.

[Anonymous No.6354547]

>>6354541
have a look around the internet for artists getting published, stuff on superani or something; you'll find a ton of people to go through

artstation is also riddled with professional artists you could find influence in https://www.artstation.com/?sort_by=trending

the internet's full of ways of find influences, but yeah the community side is fucked
>As for IRL stuff forget about it, I'm in the middle of nowhere
depending on what you want to do, that option of online courses still helps, just ignore e-celeb meme courses and find something that universities might be offering

[Anonymous No.6354568]

>>6354546
Not a bad idea

>>6354547
I'll have to look for online courses, I wonder which universities offer them

[Anonymous No.6354570]

Hello beg. Drawing is hard, painting is hard, its all all kinds of beg torture

>>6354533
i already met one cool guy at deviant art who was nice to chat with. Beg discord has like dozen of people who draw daily and they all mog me. Stop being so loom and gloom and try something. The basic rules of socialising applies even online: you have to go out of your comfort zone to gain any new contacts.
>>6354531
like this https://discord.gg/KWJN7HZy
>>6354501
thumbs up
>>6354335
i am not sure what you are trying to ask, but humans have two eyes for depth perception and if there is object covering 1 eye (and your eyes focus is in distance) your brain "merges" the vision from both eyes so you can see "through" the object as if it was semi transparent. Anyone should have this ability on both dominant and not dominant eye.
>>6354065
i dig it. very nice

[Anonymous No.6354579]

[Anonymous No.6354659]

Did some lines

[Anonymous No.6354663]

>>6354659
>chest and upper body perpendicular to the viewer and facing the pole
>waist and legs at an angle relative to the viewer
>not nearly enough twisting and deformation in the torso to reconcile this difference in orientation
otherwise it looks pretty good anon

[Anonymous No.6354666]

>>6354659
hot

[Anonymous No.6354676]

>>6354663
Thanks. I wish you told me that when i was on sketching part haha

[Anonymous No.6354683]

>>6354659
the pole is not vertical

[Anonymous No.6354687]

Took me a couple days to make this look respectable. How did I do? Tried to imitate the old series artstyle as close as possible

[Anonymous No.6354693]

>>6354683
My dick is vertical

[Anonymous No.6354707]

doodles

[Anonymous No.6354736]

>>6354687
Looks good, you capture style really well. There are some minor issues tho.

[Anonymous No.6354743]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.6354750]

>>6354743
cute and nice composition but tell me whats happenig here

[Anonymous No.6354753]

>>6354707
where did you learn hwo to paint

[Anonymous No.6354756]

WIP

[Anonymous No.6354759]

>>6354736
Great advice, Thank you kindly

[Anonymous No.6354761]

>>6354753
Never tried to learn how to paint or render on purpose
I was basically copying artist i like and brute forcing it
But ctrl and paint course or scott robertson how to render book might help you

[Anonymous No.6354764]

>>6354750
quick edit

[Anonymous No.6354769]

>>6354764
Anon listen. She grabs anchor in front oh her face and its magically go behind her. Look at anchor angle ffs.

[Anonymous No.6354770]

>>6354743
hot

[Anonymous No.6354775]

>>6354769
okie, ill just tuck the hand behind the hair

[Anonymous No.6354783]

>>6354775
nice now i can fap to that

[Anonymous No.6354808]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6354818]

I'm working through Bridgman's Constructive Anatomy book and I'm trying to figure out the proper shape to use for the pelvis.
Am I just hyperfocusing and overcomplicating things?

[Anonymous No.6354825]

>>6354818
those look about good to me. You really don't need a perfectly anatomical pelvis, just a simple geometric form will do. I like the Loomis disks, and he actually got that from Bridgman.

Remember that you might want to use different simplifications for the pelvis depending on the angle you're looking at the pelvis.

[Anonymous No.6354833]

>>6354825
It's a bit difficult since I'm not finding a lot of Bridgman drawings that build from the bones to muscles, I mainly have to go off of the landmarks to determine the general shape.
I'm playing around with the specifics because I'm trying to find that 3D piece that is consistent

[Anonymous No.6354840]

>>6354484
Drew another monster like that.

[Anonymous No.6354845]

>>6354808
the face looks goofy

[Anonymous No.6354875]

In the spirit of no nut November, I will only draw men this month and attempt to fix my lame proportions and anatomy.

[Anonymous No.6354878]

>>6354756
Finished

[Anonymous No.6354895]

>>6354659
Did some colors. Gonna finish tommorow, gn.

[Anonymous No.6354901]

Stupid holloween warmup

[Anonymous No.6354905]

Making a banner for my first stand at an anime convention, I like most of it, but I don't like that big empty space up there and don't know what to put there that would be good info for clients and not just noise.

Any help?

[Anonymous No.6354916]

>>6354905
Also I already have a poster with all my prices and stuff so that info would be redundant up there.

[Anonymous No.6354921]

>>6354905
>>6354916
Draw a girl with big boobs to attract attention

[Anonymous No.6354923]

>>6354921
lol that would clash with the clean look.

[Anonymous No.6354929]

>>6354905
you like it but I don't and the customer is always right

[Anonymous No.6354934]

>>6354929
What changes can I do to make it more appealing to you Mr. Karen?

[Anonymous No.6354935]

>>6354921
This desu. You can draw a sfw female at the very least.

[Anonymous No.6354936]

>>6354934
no breasts

[Anonymous No.6354939]

>>6354936
I already stay away from coomer stuff.

[Anonymous No.6354945]

>>6354743
high int-low pro.

good shit anon.

[Anonymous No.6354946]

>>6354878
fuck you

[Anonymous No.6354999]

Be honest. How the FUCK do you get out of /beg/? Is drawing photo references and from life enough, or do you need more formal study methods?

[Anonymous No.6355001]

>>6354501
Cool

[Anonymous No.6355002]

>>6354999
>How the FUCK do you get out of /beg/?
Stop coming to these threads and go do your own thing.

[Anonymous No.6355003]

>>6355002
No. Posting my work helps me draw every day, even if I don't improve

[Anonymous No.6355036]

>>6354116
other anon's advice is garbage as expected "go do fundies"

well anon I would say flip it and zoom out, then look at your ref. From my personal perspective I think the left side is a little 'overdone'. Like you tried to capture the curves of the abdomen and the protruding side of the hip there, but maybe perhaps you should have placed some of that ever so slightly higher up? despite the leg position it does appear that the hip is rotating off its axis just a little. and for the right hand side, her waist looks a little thin, so either the left side is protruding too much, or the right not enough

I'm no expert of course but w/e

here is my shitty art anyway, I watch chaturbate and silently sketch without tipping, every so often you find people that genuinely look into what they're doing and it provides for a good drawing experience

[DarkMapache No.6355045]

I improved on the previous design, that's something

[Anonymous No.6355063]

>>6355045

[Anonymous No.6355066]

I have no more paper but my urge for drawing came so I did it on this used one.
Gotta make a quick buck and buy a pack of paper soon :)

[Anonymous No.6355083]

Hello friends. /beg/ obviously. I made a happy pool floaty, I don't really know perspective or light.. or how to decide on colors to pick. I saw a video suggesting value was more important than hue, but I don't really know where to begin with it all

[Anonymous No.6355179]

>>6355001
Y-you too
>>6354570
>thumbs up
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.6355183]

>>6354707
Love the facial expression.
She's had enough!
You WILL give her a hug right now!

[Anonymous No.6355185]

>>6354901
Is that like a roman emperor worm?
>>6355066
I like the messy strokes, SOVL.

[Anonymous No.6355211]

Decided on this piece because it was mostly undone so I could add more of my personal preferences; for example the original artist had a flower pattern I was unfamiliar with, so I changed them with something I see everyday, more desert/arid type.
Besides that, more emphasis on the armour while the original artist mogged with plant growth and superior strokes.
Main reason is because he used tools I had access to so easy comparison.
Blog off; but he had a neat blurb about the whole situation of creation and a gallery thing, actual artists do a lot.

[Anonymous No.6355213]

Do you guys visualize what colors you want to use before you start or do you do it after the sketch?

[Anonymous No.6355225]

Happy belated Halloween everyone. Forgot to post some Halloween art here

[Anonymous No.6355261]

>>6355083
You can start with 3 values. Dark, mid tone and bright. Its actually all you need, but remember to not using pure whites and blacks

[Anonymous No.6355278]

>>6355213
Depends if I have an idea in mind before I start, if I do then I pretty much plan everything before even sketching. I'll always end up changing things though as I go but I think its good to have a plan

[Anonymous No.6355289]

stop drawing anime

[Anonymous No.6355321]

>>6354999
It has happened a few times. I could name few good artists here who started out on /beg/ years ago.

[Anonymous No.6355325]

hello this is my first ever painting. i very VERY loosely followed a youtube video. just for funsies. what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.6355326]

>>6355325
looks cool anon, extra points for /trad/

[Anonymous No.6355354]

>>6355325
>>6355326
And I'm substracting those extra points for teasing feet but not showing them

[Anonymous No.6355371]

>>6355321
I've been stuck here for 3 years and I've barely improved in that time.

[Anonymous No.6355378]

>>6355371
Now post something from 3 years ago

[Anonymous No.6355380]

>>6355063
Less than 20 minutes for one of our 48 posters to recognize the character, I'm impressed

[Anonymous No.6355385]

>>6355378

[Anonymous No.6355390]

>>6355385
Def improvement, maybe not as much as you'd like but def improvement.

[Anonymous No.6355396]

>>6355371
nice, what lead grade?

[Anonymous No.6355401]

>>6355396
I use cheap mechanical pencils that came with super-dark lead, its basically B1 or B2. I prefer never to use hard lead. Damages the paper too easily and doesn't look good in the end anyway.

[Anonymous No.6355402]

>>6354999
why not both?
t. clueless beginner

[Anonymous No.6355459]

drawing things quickly is all just about muscle memory and proficiency, right?

[Anonymous No.6355480]

>>6355261
Thank you anon, I had actually learned about non-pure whites and blacks from watching Marco Bucci paint things. It's crazy how sometimes the colors you see only appear that way in context with the colors surrounding them. Like things that look white are actually peach or a really light blue.

I sort of understand darks/mid tones/brights but if I try to select colors on a wheel, even when referencing an image, I'm off by quite a bit and end up with a much brighter image than what I intended.

[Anonymous No.6355484]

>>6355459
Not just physically, you need to visualise what you're drawing as well. sometimes when I'm in the zone I see the line on the paper before I draw it

[Anonymous No.6355490]

>>6355484
right, that too, i just forgot the word for it so i used proficiency instead. like KJG's mental archive stuff too

[Anonymous No.6355515]

I feel like my art skills have decreased pretty badly, been trying to get into reading KtD and when I draw on paper everything goes alright, I make sure to look, hold and draw and also blind draw (still trying to nail this down). My drawings on physical look ok, still at beg level but if I showed someone my drawing I could at least accept their compliments and I can somewhat understand what I can do to improve it
But when it comes to digital drawing it looks really bad, it's like I started from square one. I don't know how to improve on that, I understand that it's better to do pen and paper before digital but when I compare my work I can't see any of the minor improvements that I made on paper transfer to digital.
How do I improve this? Is it just the fact that I need to continue improving on P&P and hopefully I'll see some sort of results or is there something else I should be doing on top of that?
>Sorry for the blog posting, just been on my mind a bit

[Anonymous No.6355518]

>>6355515
a lot of digital drawing is down to the brushes used, they play a big part in how something comes out, much like it does with traditional where a ballpoint pen might not offer the same range as a sketching pencil

if you feel your pencil drawings are definitely higher quality to the digital ones, it may be that the brushes you're using just don't really suit you

[Anonymous No.6355541]

>>6355518
I guess I can try looking through my brush stuff, I normally download a whole bunch of brushes that appear so I've got a whole bunch of them but I have no clue which ones to actually try. The brushes I do have though just look the same to me as the defeult ones (unless they have some unique feature to them), might just be me though.
>if you feel your pencil drawings are definitely higher quality to the digital ones
Let me describe it like this, my pencil doodles look better than my digital drawings. But my best pencil drawings are still pre-beg to low beg level. So it's not too much the fact that my pencil drawings look fantastic, it's more so that I can never transfer what I've learnt through physical over onto digital and I get frustrated since it should be a natural thing to happen.
Might just be the fact that I still need to work on the very *very* basic art stuff.

[Anonymous No.6355543]

>>6355541
show an example of both pencil and digital drawings, it might be that you just are yet to get used to digital drawing

[Anonymous No.6355552]

So after just drawing retarded anime style shit for the past year I decided to actually try to improve my skills and grind fundamentals etc.

I gave the sticky a read and tried the igor practice and holy shit this was an actual mind torture, should I just give up and realize I'll be a permabeg forever?

[Anonymous No.6355556]

>>6355541
take it how you will but it took me about a month to adjust with a pen display

[Anonymous No.6355566]

Loomis is so fun bros.

[Anonymous No.6355571]

>>6355543
Pic related is my doodles I did, left was supposed to be a train seat but without the arm rest and the right was a head I tried to make but it just looks like a cylinder attacked to a mask like thing.
Here are my pencil stuff
https://litter.catbox.moe/nv2swc.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/8juwho.jpg
Here's my digital stuff
https://litter.catbox.moe/mxmqm3.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/mxmqm3.png
>>6355556
Well that's good to know I guess. what I should be adjusting though, I understand that there's a pressure thing that I can readjust in the art software I'm using but other than that I'm not too sure what else I could adjust.
Would probably help if I didn't have a tiny shitty one by wacom Drawing tablet.

[Anonymous No.6355586]

>>6355571
you're definitely getting ahead of yourself with the colouring side of things when you're still in the stage of learning construction

get yourself an actual sketchbook to draw in, something either A4 or A5 is ideal, since it should be enough space to draw big and get some construction in; printer paper still works but the more you draw, the less paper floating around you want

do the same things you're doing on paper in digital: construct, make things 3d, but don't get too ahead of yourself and try to shade and colour until you improve your 3d knowledge

the more you construct and draw, the more you'll start to notice you're itching to do more, that's when you know you're ready to start adding more to your drawings: learning to shade and adding a light source, this is a little different in digital given you have many more options regarding how you shade something, so start doing it on paper first as it will somewhat translate into digital

one thing: if you notice you are not using construction to draw, stop yourself and start using shapes to construct, avoid symbol drawing entirely, again you'll start to feel that confidence appearing as you study and you'll slowly introduce methods that cut corners because you know what you're doing without needing to go the full extra mile
>shitty one by wacom Drawing tablet
the tablet's fine, you just don't know how to use it properly yet

[Anonymous No.6355667]

>>6355552
Master gesture.

[Anonymous No.6355703]

Is this ok? Maybe both the lineart and colors are too messy

[Anonymous No.6355710]

>"just use a reference bro"
>end up just copying it

Hopefully I'm just being a hopeless sack of shit because I had few weeks of break due to injury. I'm getting better, so maybe I just need to pick up the flow.

[Anonymous No.6355717]

>>6355703
Double-check your anatomy, eye's don't grow on hands.

[Anonymous No.6355719]

>>6355710
read what i said to this anon here about references >>6354426

[Anonymous No.6355724]

>>6355719
I don't know if I remembered anything.
My brain is full of nothing. Nothing feels right. It's all mess.

[Anonymous No.6355727]

>>6355724
that's where the challenge is, it's forcing repetition of what you already know as you introduce something new

[Anonymous No.6355731]

>>6355727
>of what you already know
So pretty much nothing
I cannot even remember how body is supposed to look in detail. Construction is a joke. Everything fucking sucks. I have to look up every damn thing and sketches still look weird.ef[psvjlkxnc spxjzl;

[Anonymous No.6355735]

>>6355731
back to studies then, look at individual pieces of the body and work on those

[Anonymous No.6355737]

>>6355710
>copying a reference

[Anonymous No.6355745]

>>6355710
I have the same issue. I can copy something well enough but making it into my own style is the main issue I run into

[Anonymous No.6355748]

>>6355745
py studies with original pics.

[Anonymous No.6355756]

>>6355748
I don't mind but I forgot the website for making art photos like that. You know how you put art works side by side in the same image? I don't how to do that anymore

[Anonymous No.6355767]

>>6355756
Open the second image in second Paint and select-copy-paste

[Anonymous No.6355770]

>>6355756
Just pyw and then post ur study, why bother.

[Anonymous No.6355777]

>>6355767
>>6355770
here, I use other peoples arts as reference to practice but I have trouble with making stuff into my own. Idk. If you want more examples I do have others

[Anonymous No.6355778]

>>6355777
go on

[Anonymous No.6355791]

>>6355778
this is something I drew when I was a teenager when I first started drawing. It's not ideal though since all I can do is copy. I have other art I've drawn that isn't heavily as copied that just kinda looks flat and like shit when I don't copy like this

[Anonymous No.6355794]

>>6355777
>>6355791
you're copying other people's answers without knowing the questions, do more life drawings

[Anonymous No.6355799]

>>6355586
Sorry for the very late reply.
>when you're still in the stage of learning construction
Yeah I had a feeling I needed to work on that, don't entirely understand how that goes and I'm not too sure what books/ videos I should be going for when learning for about it. I previously went through DaB but stopped 45 boxes into the 250 boxes challenge.
I've also just started watching Michael Hampton's Analytical drawing and I've tried doing some figure drawings, none of them have been successful but they were fun to do.
>get yourself an actual sketchbook to draw in, something either A4 or A5 is ideal
I've been meaning to get a proper sketch book for a while, I do have two of them but they're lined and I've heard that's not good when you want to draw. Just trying to find sketchbooks that are not only not lined but are also not too textured so that it'll make the ink run out faster.
>do the same things you're doing on paper in digital: construct, make things 3d
I'll try to but I'm still kind of unsure about how to do construction properly, I understand that it's about breaking down everything into basic primitive shapes and then building up from there (I think?), I'm not too sure what to do after that regardless of if I'm doing it on paper or digital.
>but don't get too ahead of yourself and try to shade and colour
Will do, ditch the colors and shading until I can actually make a 3d shape.
>one thing: if you notice you are not using construction to draw, stop yourself and start using shapes to construct, avoid symbol drawing entirely,
I'll try, it's just hard to try and construct when the shapes I try to draw are really rough and don't look right. But I'll try to.
>the tablet's fine, you just don't know how to use it properly yet
Ok then, I'll keep to the tablet until I get better.
Thank you for the advice, I'll make sure to do my best to follow it.

[Anonymous No.6355820]

>>6355791
why did you split her fang into two lil teeth lmao, it's oddly charming

[Anonymous No.6355828]

>>6355820
lol it's been a while since I drew that so I don't really remember why

[Anonymous No.6355906]

>>6355799
read hampton's book on figure drawing, he breaks things down into shapes in a very easy to digest manner, it's a great starting point that should propel you into the next stage with some relative understanding of how things should look

https://anatomiaartistica.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention-1.pdf

copy the examples, find references, draw them with that construction

also look at other art once you've got a decent idea of construction, look at how others shade and build volume around those shapes, very slowly ease yourself into it, don't try to shade a full figure, just do studies on limbs and then slowly begin to shade them and learn one step at a time

otherwise you'll overwhelm yourself and burn out due to confusion and stress over how things aren't turning out; there's no rush to get good as much as /beg/ and /ic/ want you to believe, do it step by step

[Anonymous No.6355914]

>>6355906
>>6355799
also forgot to add: if you don't feel like drawing, grab some paper and a pencil, or your tablet, and just doodle

practive drawing 3d shapes while you watch something, use spare time to just throw in some attempts at changing the perspective of those shapes, slowly you'll get used to it, and those mini exercises will improve how you think in 3d and draw in perspective with those shapes

[Anonymous No.6355915]

>>6355717
Thanks anon, my bad, such a beginner mistake

[Anonymous No.6355987]

>>6355906
>>6355914
Well alright then, guess I'll give this Hamton book a try and also take my time with it. I remember seeing it a lot but I've never really read it.
> those mini exercises will improve how you think in 3d and draw in perspective with those shapes
sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I'm assuming the "mini exercises" will be in the same book that you just suggested right?
Again, thank you for the help. This has definitely helped give me a clearer idea of what I should be doing.

[Anonymous No.6355989]

[Anonymous No.6355994]

[Anonymous No.6356022]

>>6354010
Hello, I need some help if /beg/ would be so good. Digital painting in photoshop. Pic rel was working on for a friend, but made me realize how incompetent I am. Obviously not finished, but torso or hips feel off. Is this just a byproduct of not being familiar with someone's nude hips, or am I fucking up proportions or something.
Second, is there a name for this sort of thing? Close to decensoring, but not exactly the same. Any tips would be appreciated, thank you.

[Anonymous No.6356027]

>>6356022
I think they call it like barbie doll or something

[Anonymous No.6356029]

[Anonymous No.6356036]

[Anonymous No.6356040]

Doing some more rendering work any critiques?

[Anonymous No.6356056]

>>6356040
Blade is too thick for a dagger, blade shape is impractical and makes stabbing hard too. If you wanted to show wear you should put more scuffs and scratches at the top of the handle where it's likely to get them. Also the blade is not symmetrical

[Anonymous No.6356067]

>>6356027
Sorry I just meant the concept of taking an image of someone with clothing and removing the clothing. I just hadn't added genitals yet. My concern was just the anatomy doesn't seem right or something.

[Anonymous No.6356070]

1 minute gestures

[Anonymous No.6356085]

Drew a Yugioh Monster.

[Anonymous No.6356087]

>>6356085
reference

[Anonymous No.6356096]

>>6356085
This genuinely rocks

[Anonymous No.6356100]

>>6356085
dope.

[Anonymous No.6356159]

>>6356085
baller dude, really nice

[Anonymous No.6356182]

>>6356096
>>6356100
>>6356159
thanks bros.
slight update, a little rough here and there but i think I'm done with it.

[Anonymous No.6356225]

[Anonymous No.6356291]

I will draw an instance of FOTM

[Anonymous No.6356312]

why is it so hard to place a nose

why do they always end up lookinh autistic

[Anonymous No.6356315]

>>6356291
Really nice lineart anon

[Anonymous No.6356357]

>>6355552
No, it's an exercise for a reason. Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.6356541]

>>6356312
I would spend less time drawing from real life / photos and spend more time copying artists you like a lot. Their art will give you more usable abstractions for the nose, and will be easier to understand. This still applies if you want to draw realistically, just study from realist artists. Use the Loomis method and study your anatomy still, just include this master copy practice along with it.

[Anonymous No.6356628]

some wilfred fanart from the other day

[Anonymous No.6356654]

i literally don't know what im supposed to do to improve
so aimless
so lonely
make it without me lads..

[Anonymous No.6356659]

>>6356654
pyw buddy

[Anonymous No.6356661]

>>6356659
i haven't really done any original "finished" pieces recently
mostly just studies/copies of artists, anon.. nothing worth posting

[Anonymous No.6356665]

>>6356661
you should show us anyways desu. Maybe a study + the ref?

[Anonymous No.6356672]

Practicing digital painting starting with the medium hard brush - numbers are the order I made them in. The techniques to make it look good are completely lost to me. Could use some pointers.

[Anonymous No.6356681]

>>6356541
>less time drawing from real life / photos and spend more time copying artists
That's how you end up making all those mistakes
>>6356312
Use photos and draw over it, applying construction.
And then draw from imagination.
>>6356672
Why medium? Go for hard brush, and use refs to practice values.
>>6356291
Make the pose yourself, see how the weight is balanced.
The bend of the legs makes no sense.
And use some ref for the hoodie
>>6356182
Values
It all blends together.

[Anonymous No.6356684]

>>6356681
Hey man who the hell are you comming in here and giving valid advice!
Welcome.

[Anonymous No.6356693]

>>6354010
I've noticed this phenomena for years but only just got reminded about it today; the click. Where a shitty artist who toils away working on crappy pieces for months, maybe years, just miraculously starts pumping out 10/10 artworks. I'm not talking about a slow and steady rate of improvement, i'm talking in the span of a couple days/weeks they go from zero to hero. Curious to see if any of you anons notice this too, I've no idea what causes it besides maybe a change in mindset (waking up and feeling very prone to experimenting, far more than usual perhaps).

[Anonymous No.6356715]

>>6356628
soul and cute

[Anonymous No.6356718]

>>6356672
Larger brush size for blocking in then smaller for blending transitions (maybe you need less opacity/more transparency?), at the moment you have a lot of smaller visible strokes. Your core shadows should be more darker in some places. Anyway, have you tried rendering the basic forms yet?

[Anonymous No.6356721]

>>6356693
When you push yourself to try different mediums and methods/processes, moments like these come often.

[Anonymous No.6356750]

>>6355987
>sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I'm assuming the "mini exercises" will be in the same book that you just suggested right?
i believe he does briefly mention the importance of it, but if not: you'll find many other artists do, because it forces you to get into the habit of building shapes in 3d in different perspectives; when you don't have time to do full figure drawings, but enough to throw out some basic shapes

[Anonymous No.6356753]

>>6356628
sovl and cute, can confirm.

[Anonymous No.6356851]

>>6356750
Alright then, I've always find myself drawing some boxes when I get some free time and I sometimes do rough perspective homework from DaB. I'll try finding some good exercises outside of that though, can't only be drawing boxes sine I heard that spheres and cylinders are really important as well.

[Anonymous No.6356855]

>>6356851
the hampton book i mentioned goes into a few methods of constructing the body with boxes and cylinders, it'll guide you a bit

just remember that this will take time, you won't read the book and copy its examples and suddenly be capable of drawing, it's something that you have to stick with and keep trying, seeing what you're doing wrong but then realising how to improve it

like any skill it's all about the effort you put in to improve your understanding; that effort doesn't necessarily bring results overnight

[Anonymous No.6356876]

>>6356855
>the hampton book i mentioned goes into a few methods of constructing the body with boxes and cylinders
Alright then, I'll make sure to keep an eye out for those methods and try to do those for exercises.
>You have to stick with and keep trying, seeing what you're doing wrong
I feel like I might have a little bit of trouble trying to self-evaluate what I could do better and what I did wrong but I know I can always just post some of my results here if I'm really stuck.
>just remember that this will take time.
>like any skill it's all about the effort you put in to improve your understanding
I know that it'll take time, but I'm sure I'll actually *understand* that when I'm 30 figures in and losing my mind when I can't get the figure right without it looking wrong or when I can't properly get a shape to look right.
Again, thanks for helping me out and giving me some pointers on what I can do to improve. I'll make sure to dive into the D&I book

[Anonymous No.6356880]

>>6356876
>I feel like I might have a little bit of trouble trying to self-evaluate what I could do better and what I did wrong
look at what you draw and look at the reference you're using, you'll see lines that are off or don't really promote the idea of volume

[Anonymous No.6356890]

>>6356880
>look at what you draw and look at the reference you're using, you'll see lines that are off or don't really promote the idea of volume
That sounds surprising simple, feel kind of silly saying that now. I'll make sure to do that when I start figure drawing and constructing from a reference.

[Anonymous No.6356894]

>>6355703
If you're 25 or older, you must try this drawing software!

[Anonymous No.6356932]

Is TVPaint fine for illustration? I managed to get it for cheap and I'm tired of flip flopping between programs
For reference I have csp and a pirated copy of photoshop (somewhere, I don't really use it)

[Anonymous No.6356958]

[Anonymous No.6356968]

You’re all NGMI the AI artpocalypse is upon us!

[Anonymous No.6356977]

>>6355566
bro you gotta draw faces on those scribbles, try being more tidy

[Anonymous No.6356978]

>>6355710
You can't just "copy" a reference unless you're literally tracing over it, anon.

[Anonymous No.6357015]

Working on this

[Anonymous No.6357051]

>>6357015
Cute girl

[Anonymous No.6357066]

>>6354010
value study

[Anonymous No.6357123]

little study of the faces colors

[Anonymous No.6357138]

[Anonymous No.6357155]

Practicing looking up faces

[Anonymous No.6357178]

>>6357066
God damn thought it was a photo at first glance, good job.
>>6357155
I feel like some of those lack in the chin area.

[Anonymous No.6357191]

Heh, this drawing stuff is pretty fun!

[Anonymous No.6357203]

Is Proko's Figure Drawing Fundamentals course good and is there a way to get it without paying the $125?

[Anonymous No.6357205]

20 minute study

[Anonymous No.6357218]

>>6357205
A lot of chicken scratching

[Anonymous No.6357229]

>>6357218
should I focus on less and longer lines? It's pretty hard for me my hand trembles like drug addict and I'm only used to draw with my wrist like a retard. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.6357233]

>>6357229
Blah blah suffer through shoulder drawing until you're used to it and do less drugs.

[Anonymous No.6357236]

>>6357229
Learn to draw from your elbow/shoulder instead of your wrist. Then draw simple geometric shapes in perspective.

[Anonymous No.6357245]

>Trying to apply the fundies I am learning to things I am forcing to look good
>They ending up looking very mediocre and wonky
>I doodle freely and with the heart pic related after getting ideas looking at other art
>They end up looking like the best things I drew recently
Reminder to surround yourself with art and media you like and not just grind fundies mindlessly at times, or you'll be out of ideas regarding what to draw.

[Anonymous No.6357247]

>>6357015
hot
>>6357191
cute

[Anonymous No.6357252]

Beg. Salutations!

>>6357203
see >>6319929
>>6357066
i kneel
>>6356654
PYW
>>6356628
soul
>>6356085
this is how actual art looks like, i kneel
>>6356070
respect!
>>6355552
Drawing igor is always torture. I like how you made his head smaller and less caricature like. Now pick up some book or course and get the funDIEs
>>6355325
low contrast but all in all its okay
>>6355211
if you put a bit more work into the flowers it could be very good! But like this the flowers are blurry and suggest they are from "Same material" as the shiny armor
>>6355083
Cute. Pick up a book from sticky.
>>6355066
Very nice
>>6355045
Nice vampire loli
>>6354999
>didnt PYW
You are here forever lmao
>>6354895
if you also did background i would kneel. But like this its unkneelable
>>6357229
according to book drawingOnRightSideOfTheBrain there are ~4 styles of lines and they are all equal in terms of drawing. The other two books i read didnt even consider important to mention the styles of lines. Use whatever you want. Many pros use chicken scratch for sketching and some even use it for crosshatching or leave it visible even in final painting

[Anonymous No.6357271]

>>6357229
crosshatch instead of chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.6357289]

>>6357252
Salutations, good to see you again

[Anonymous No.6357311]

>>6356681
>That's how you end up making all those mistakes
damn, i know i have far to go, but what kind of mistakes are you referring to? Looks like you just drew a different type of head from mine.

[Anonymous No.6357332]

First time ever using colors. It's weird because it looked different on my drawing display. The colors were more vibrant while on my main display the colors look weird. What advice you could give me on colors? Maybe some good guides, books or videos?

[Anonymous No.6357343]

>>6354010
What can I improve here?
She's supposed to be standing still and pulling her skirt down embarassed

[Anonymous No.6357348]

First of all your amazing for a first time ,first you have to learn color theory and understand shading and lighting and what brushes to use all those infos are available on YouTube a channel called Marc brunet cover almost all of these things keep it up your talented bruh

[Anonymous No.6357402]

>>6356978
You know what I mean.
Drawing is closely to original as possible because any deviation just seems wrong as hell.

[Anonymous No.6357429]

>>6357252
I'm planing on add backgrounds in the future, right now they stand out in quality too much. Need more studies for sure.

[Anonymous No.6357450]

>>6357343
no one cares about anatomy make the face look better

[Anonymous No.6357451]

Only a few details missing. If I weren't such an autista this would be already done. I know the chair is out of perspective, I'm leaving that for later. I also have to find a way to differentiate layers so the background doesn't mix that much with the foreground

>>6355325
2bh it looks pretty good. I once tried /trad/painting and all I did was a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.6357481]

I'm just showing off, I drew this while being pretty much blind. Lights were off so I couldn't even properly connect lines yet I created an anime character... except she kinda looks like a man but whatever.

[Anonymous No.6357490]

[Anonymous No.6357537]

Critiques on this piece?

[Anonymous No.6357556]

Hi my fags, does anyone have that instructional picture titled "Draw with your eyes, not with your brain"?
I was recently looking for it on my folders but I cannot find it at the moment.
Also I drew this bad boy here, upside down of course.

[Anonymous No.6357563]

>>6357537
proportion is kind of funky, the legs are long, head is kind of small and the sword is too small. The legs and head can be a style thing so I won't say to much on that but the sword is off, the handle should be much bigger and the grip of the hand should reflect that. Other than that keep it up.

[Anonymous No.6357568]

>>6357311
Good question. I think that guy might just be retarded.

[Anonymous No.6357573]

>>6357537
There is no narrative in this picture. It isn't clear what she's doing or what her chinky bugface is feeling. Pose is shit. Limbs are each half a head too long. Hands too big. Redraw the sword.

[Anonymous No.6357575]

>>6357332
All you need to understand with colors is warm/cool contrast.

[Anonymous No.6357578]

[Anonymous No.6357580]

Are there any exercises to practice proportion? If I do figure drawing exercises, or something like pic related I end up having my torso way too long or an arm way to short etc. Is there any autism exercises to grind out to practice proportion, or just draw, check, erase and try again till I get it right?

[Anonymous No.6357586]

>>6357580
Just keep measuring. If it looks right it's right.

[Anonymous No.6357618]

>>6357573
>>6357563
Thanks for the critiques anons, I really appreciate it.

Ill fix my pic based on your edits then repost it.

[Anonymous No.6357624]

my first attempt at painting hair, what can I improve hairbros ?

[Anonymous No.6357626]

>>6357015
Finished it any critique?

[Anonymous No.6357639]

>>6357626
The perspective on the near leg isn't right. The thigh is angled towards the viewer but the lower leg and foot are side-on. The messy way you've colored doesn't look great.

[Anonymous No.6357665]

>>6356654
You probably will get into other unhealthy hobbies so why not just doodle random stuff for fun. We need more sovl art in this board more than shitty AI proomter

[Anonymous No.6357674]

Been a long time, I know the far arm is lazy but I need direction and motivation so lay it on me

[Anonymous No.6357679]

>>6357568
thx lmao

[Anonymous No.6357680]

>>6357674
I assume you are nigger so i suggest robin da sto instead of drawing

[Anonymous No.6357700]

>>6357680
wanna pyw or give critique?

[Anonymous No.6357720]

>>6357700
Preponderantly/beg/

[Anonymous No.6357732]

more FOTM attempts

[Anonymous No.6357736]

>>6357732
Carelessly/beg/

[Anonymous No.6357745]

angery

[Anonymous No.6357749]

>>6357732
-Move the nose to the left more
-Right arm needs some work at the elbow, show more detail at the crease
-left side of the tank top goes too far in, makes her look too skinny
-right thigh needs more volume behind the knee and arm
-left calf needs more volume if you're trying to make it look baggy
Otherwise, I like your style. Might have missed a few things but those stand out the most

[Anonymous No.6357758]

>>6357745
Hey man did you just traced a bunch of floating heads and tried to pass them as yours?

[Anonymous No.6357766]

>>6357758
pathetic

[Anonymous No.6357791]

>>6357749
like this?

[Anonymous No.6357809]

how do i use these to improve

[Anonymous No.6357812]

>>6357809
for the record i know it's not perfect, so before y'all shit on me for not being EXACT, i just wanna know where to go from copying my favorite artist constantly

[Anonymous No.6357815]

>>6357812
>>6357809
Have you tried putting it over the work you are trying to copy? To see where yours is different.

[Anonymous No.6357913]

>>6354783
Made some tweaks

[Anonymous No.6357923]

>>6357913
I wonder how much she can deadlift

[Anonymous No.6357952]

>>6357809
What are you trying to improve, accuracy? Did you use the Krenz method? Did you measure? Did you eyeball?

[Anonymous No.6358021]

>>6357952
eyeballed for the most part, i know very little about the krenz method
>>6357815
nah i haven't because i wasn't trying to be exact, but I realize now that I need to have a specific goal in mind when doing these
if not to be exact then im not sure what I would be going for... hmm this is tough

[Anonymous No.6358051]

How do I get over my fear of being bad at things? I'm desperate to draw but I get stuck trying to work up the courage to do it cause I know I won't be good for a while and then I'm just trapped in limbo because autism

[Anonymous No.6358065]

>>6358051
If you want to stop sucking you will have to draw, so draw. Everybody who is good at drawing started out sucking. Most artists have similar negative thoughts.
Your own thoughts can only hurt you if you let them. Just sit down and draw. When the thoughts come up, notice them and let them pass by, don't resist them, just acknowledge them. Realize that you can draw despite those feelings. Those thoughts are antithetical to your goals, so you''l have to exorcise them to have any hope at a healthy. sustainable art practice.

[Anonymous No.6358074]

just a character I started drawing while watching a movie with friends

[Anonymous No.6358078]

>>6358051
Nothin' wrong with being bad at first. Just keep improving every day.

[Anonymous No.6358083]

>>6358051
Just do it. Or don't. The only person who cares is yourself.

[Anonymous No.6358137]

did a portrait, mostly tried to get the face right

[Anonymous No.6358138]

>>6358137

[Anonymous No.6358171]

>>6357578
Good study
The one with rust would've been nice if it was a bit larger so we could see the details though
>>6357451
Try messing around with line thickness to frame certain parts for the foreground background.

[Anonymous No.6358174]

>>6357624
Looks like hair to me, good job
Maybe the flow of the hair could be improved, like at the bottom it's kinda puffy, hair follows gravity too
>>6358137
>>6358138
Lost a lot of softness in the face,

[Anonymous No.6358176]

>>6358074
SOULLLLLLLLLLL

[Anonymous No.6358187]

>>6358137
>>6358138
Now show us the non-traced version

[Anonymous No.6358188]

>>6358187
that's the non traced version.

[Anonymous No.6358189]

>>6358188
Why are all digital shitters like this?

[Anonymous No.6358191]

>>6357580
You could try doing something like:
>draw from a reference
>compare the proportions of your finished drawing to the reference
>draw it again and fix any mistakes

You will probably find that you make the same mistakes pretty consistently (torso too long, head too big, etc.)

[Anonymous No.6358195]

>>6358189
?
like what?

[Anonymous No.6358199]

>>6356977
I am too scared to try. I am scared it will just end up looking like shit on paper, so I haven't done that yet. I'm still going through Art & Science of Drawing

[Anonymous No.6358205]

>>6358195
Tracelet

[Anonymous No.6358206]

[Anonymous No.6358209]

>>6358205
lol, whatever dude. if anything I'm flattered you think it's traced. although that says more about your skill level than line.

[Anonymous No.6358212]

7h straight on this holy shit, obvious flaws but confident I learned things

[Anonymous No.6358215]

>>6357720
>>6357680
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6358216]

>>6358051

[Anonymous No.6358218]

>>6358215
whatever.

Im pretty sure im better than 70-80% of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.6358233]

>>6358212
> confident I learned things
You didn’t.

[Anonymous No.6358235]

>>6358187
Looked more like he ran a filter on it.

[Anonymous No.6358237]

>>6357674
I can’t tell what this shitty sketch is even supposed to be. Try putting effort into something before wasting our time.

[Anonymous No.6358238]

>>6358235
He probably didn't trace it but copied the contours. classic beg mistake

[Anonymous No.6358239]

>>6357252
What a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.6358243]

>>6358239
>>6358237
>>6358233
we get it, you don't draw

[Anonymous No.6358250]

>>6358235
>>6358238
are you guys for real.
this is my process for every portrait, if this looks like a filter or tracing to you then you don't understand either of what Those words mean
https://streamable.com/gew83u

[Anonymous No.6358252]

>>6358250
they have no idea what they are talking about

[Anonymous No.6358253]

>>6358250
not sure why you replied to me but w/e

[Anonymous No.6358257]

>>6358243
I draw better than you ever will but I won’t PYW because that’s not the point.
Also you’re a faggot.

[Anonymous No.6358262]

>>6358257
You won't pyw cause you know he's right. You can't provide concrit even to the most /beg/ posters.

[Anonymous No.6358279]

>>6356894
Are you making fun of me? I'm very dummy sorry I don't get it

[Anonymous No.6358288]

>>6358279
It's a meme

[Anonymous No.6358294]

>>6358288
Oh right I forgot i drew the tree, my bad

[Anonymous No.6358313]

[Anonymous No.6358320]

>>6358313

[Anonymous No.6358432]

NEW THREAD
>>6358431
>>6358431
>>6358431

[Anonymous No.6358552]

>>6358065
Tyvm for the insightful advice anon. I'll probably leave this post up somewhere on my screen and look at it every time I get sad while drawing lol
>>6358078
>>6358083
Very fair points
>>6358216
Can't tell if meme book recommendation since it takes away from actually drawing but I'll read a few chapters instead of doing other classwork lmfao

[Anonymous No.6358580]

[Anonymous No.6358807]

>>6356718
I am decent at drawing them but I don’t have much experience rendering, no

[Anonymous No.6359152]

>>6356715
>>6356753
>>6357252
thanks!