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Is that it. Thank you AI for showing me what the vast majority of people want. They have a magic genie ready to do any art they want and it's all so...boring. Same old shit. Western, eastern, it doesn't matter. In fact, this is one of the highest rated pieces in pixiv.

>> No.6352861

Glad I realized this way before the AI stuff so I'm not even surprised by normies enjoying this sort of shit

>> No.6352866
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I have say that Ai being reduced to dime a dozen coomer dispenser is the most hilarious turn of events I've see in ages. The novelty is already waning and all that left is a d algorithm that overpromised and under delivered. It wasn't the artpocalypse, in fact it only made consumers and artist alike appreciate art made by humans even more.

>> No.6352889

Bookmarked, will be fun to read through this thread when it gets archived, i love reading through the artist gigacopes, in every thread you can see people in all 5 stages of grief.

>> No.6352892

>>6352889
Even this kind of post is becoming a cliche.

>> No.6352893

>>6352892
After close to 20 years shitposting on this website, nothings new under the sun, I'm aware of it as much as you are, I just genuinely think you guys are coping out of your minds.

>> No.6352894

>>6352893
>if i keep saying it it'll become true

>> No.6352895

>>6352894
Even chatbots are getting really good bro, in a few years when its more commonplace for normal people to have powerful enough computers to host that shit, its going to be over for so much of human communication. That's going to be way more powerful then the coomgen.

>> No.6352898

>>6352893
I mean, if you don't think there's a more interesting discussion about this whole thing than just bookmark and gigacope whatever after 20 years I don't know what to say. Sometimes I feel like I just talk to bots.

>> No.6352901

>>6352898
You should try out the more advanced chatbots, they are better then 95% of online communication you engage in, this place is mostly just for shitposting.

>> No.6352911

>>6352889
Doesn't 'cope' apply to only three stages of grief?

>> No.6352914

>>6352901
If it's the same quality as AI art...
Super happy for our failed human being bros that they can finally overdose on escapism. Would be nice if they stopped comparing everyone to themselves tho.

>> No.6352919

>>6352914
kek, keep coping like that and I might let you suck my dick for a $ if you are cute enough xD

>> No.6352929

>>6352859
>>6352861
I'll take the L, normalfags only care about the result and not the process. Normalfags famously have shit taste.

>> No.6352936

>>6352866
It suffers the original sin of being a human-made product. The masses like their easily digestible, mediocre pics, so the majority of pics in boorus are mediocre. And having been trained on them, most of the AI results are mid as well.
I'll start worrying when the code starts improving itself, without anyone's supervision.

>> No.6352942

>>6352936
AI doing things without supervision sounds like trouble on more levels than just art.

>> No.6352944

>>6352936
That's the thing though, you can get some interesting things right now if you play with parameters and scales, but they're too lazy to even play with the making picture machine.

>> No.6352951

>>6352859
Stop complaining retard.
Prove yourself, PYW.

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>>6352859
>Thank you AI for showing me what the vast majority of people want
Showing you that sex sells? How old are you OP?

>> No.6353030
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You know what's the most pathetic thing about these threads?
Is that the retards spamming have literally learned about Machine Learning with this easily digestible gimmick.
They have no clue about the decade of development we had, they have no clue of the rebranding the business world did from Machine Learning to AI to get more engagement.
And now we have these dumbasses thinking this tech is magic and sharing their idiotic ideas everywhere, they think "AI" will do everything no matter how unfeasible it is.
You're wasting time arguing with these clown, just filter, ignore and report these threads.

>> No.6353057

>>6353030
you write like a pajeet

>> No.6353064

>>6353030
I bet you are the type of person to still manually type out Captchas and not have an AI script do it for you.

>> No.6353079
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>coomsomers gonna coomsom
you don't need another cope thread to know that

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Yea nice shill thread#1928, and thankfully pixiv introduced this today and i don't have to see your goyslop trash anymore yahoo

>> No.6353105

>>6352929
>Normalfags famously have shit taste.
so they don't even care about the final result then

>> No.6353115

>>6353087
>display fewer
what if i want to see NONE? fucking nips.

>> No.6353239

>>6352859
As if generic sexual pin ups didnt generate the most traction for real artists too

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>>6353030
let the sorceror's apprentice drown himself in coom; adding AI-blocking toilets to your anime girls in voids is the solution for true artists

>> No.6353279

>>6353271
You are a true artist: pure, passionate, original. A.I. can't compete, you're just too good. Toilets in the picture. Brilliant!

>> No.6353286

>>6353279
The soul of the artist is his workshop. It's in his tools. It's in his loo.

>> No.6353287

>>6353279
Which stage of grief is this again

>> No.6353290

>>6353287
Classic case of Stage 1.

>> No.6353297

>>6353290
>Classic case of Stage 1.
It's beyond Stage 1. It's metastatic! It's Trending on Artstation ! Anime Toilet Art is the answer to this A.I. monstrosity.

>> No.6353305

>>6353297
Rahul, I am going to add toilets to all my paintings of anime girls floating in voids and there is nothing you can poo to stop me

>> No.6353310

>>6352936
>>6352942
AI (and computers for that matter) doesn’t work like. In fact it can NOT happen with the neural networks used today.

>> No.6353398

>>6353310
>generate some shit (images , music whatever)
>AI post its.
>normies, and social media addicts, comment and hit likes, unlikes etc.
>AI takes that feedback and generates something else.
>repeat.

next step the system, listen your conversations, your IM, emails etc, and generates something appealing to you. (it already monitores your activity btw.)

>> No.6353442

That’s why you should put most of your skilpoints into style.

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>>6353087
>>6353115
>prompt pic
>don't tag it as ai generated
gg ez

>> No.6353511

>>6353504
The usual AI garbage coloring is easily discernible even from the thumbnail lmao.

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>>6353511
>>6353504
let the gaslighting begging

>> No.6353521
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Fucked up colors and 512 problem.

>> No.6353525

>>6353515
To me is funny that you imply that anyone could ever get confused if something is AI generated.

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>>6353525
(you) having to make a distinction with each pic is enough
>someone is shit at hands
LE AI
>someone uses certain "ai colors"
LE AI
etc

>> No.6353556

>>6353551
tourists have tried to "challenge" this board to find out the AI slop between actual illustrations and they ALWAYS and i mean ALWAYS get btfo. you can try.

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>>6353525

Post Process Video.

>> No.6353881

>>6353556
This
>>6353551
Please play the
>is it ai or human drawn
Game. It goes the same every time with nearly 100% of people correctly picking ai or hand drawn

>> No.6353908

>>6353877
>Post Process Video.
This kills the pajeet, pls do not ask for process post sir

>> No.6353917
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>> No.6353925

>>6353877
>*posts process video*
>it's me autistically bruteforcing a pose and raping the lasso tool for 8 hours straight

not good

>> No.6353963

>>6353115
“Display fewer” basically removes it from search results, recommended, and latest tabs, effectively removing them from your view altogether. It doesn’t filter out if someone you are following submits an AI image, but of course then you can just unfollow them.

>> No.6354058

>>6352859
>vast majority of people
weeb coomers you mean

>> No.6354063

>>6353556
yeah because anyone can do an image search, not because you can tell from looking, you can't, you have to google search to tell

>> No.6354068

>>6354063
You can literally tell just by looking.

>> No.6354085

>>6353030
I think it was just the big moment for people when they realised hunk of metal can be also creative. People are used to social media algorithms and automating boring jobs. It is also the fact that most people saw Dall-e mini as the industry standard when in fact it was complete shitter compared to other programs even in the last year with character blends and picture blends. They saw Dall-e mini produce bunch of goo barely resembling characters, then they saw midjurney giving pictures that are not painful to see, and then Stable Diffusion which has been out for months was trained on anime and gave you the current stuff. It went month from month doing leaps in advancement when in fact it was not advancing almost at all, just models with different data fed to it, so when you asked for anime girl by AI not learned on anime, you got poo. What you should rather compare this to are the various sites like thiswaifudoesnotexisr.com or thispersondoesnotexist.com. They are all three or so years old and look almost as good. The only difference was that normies did not get access to text commissions and to the model source code so that they could train it themselves.

>> No.6354148

>>6354063
>all it takes to stop le epic gaslighting operation is google search
damn, didn't put much of a fight

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>>6353030
>Unfeasible
This could probably work someday if we throw enough manpower and GPUs at it, but what most people don't get is the scale we're talking about.

Nerds aren't that expensive because of open source culture and since crypto is getting bearish GPUs are getting affordable, but to really make this shit work we're talking about building databases with at least hundreds of thousands of images, accurately described down to the smallest detail instead of the twenty tags on gelbooru, this alone represents months of work and tens of thousands of dollars even if you hire third worlders to do it.

Maybe some day a furry will piss off Elon Musk and he'll autistically spend half a billion to make it work but I doubt AI will be more than toy projects and a tool for concept artists until a decade or so.

>> No.6354197

>>6353504
If you can't recognize AI art in 1 second you are an NPC

>> No.6354434

>>6354197
Ok, I sometimes have to open the picture and see it closer, but NovelAI waifus are recognisable in millisecond and even when zoomed out. Somehow the billions of digital artists mastering shading and copying from each other never resulted in the strange colour shading and contrast that every NovelAI has.

>> No.6354451

>>6354187
>but I doubt AI will be more than toy projects and a tool for concept artists until a decade or so.
How could it be more than just that? Not even talking about technology limitations, just that there really is no way to push it forward. It is just that; AI.

>> No.6354500

>>6352859
>this is one of the highest rated pieces in pixiv.
No, its not. You can look on the pixiv homepage and see its not true at all, and daily new popular submissions always got way more than that picture you posted.
You AI shills are retarded ESLs that keep posting obvious lies.

>> No.6354513

gay thread

>> No.6354550

>>6354187
>Maybe some day a furry will piss off Elon Musk and he'll autistically spend half a billion to make it work
They can't get self driving in spite of the billions, don't worry about them getting them to draw nice pictures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oZ-AQszEI

>> No.6354560

>>6354434
Hundreds of thousands of visual novel illustrations with 15 variations for each CG are responsible for training NovelAI's signature plastic-ish look. Godspeed ye many VN artists, your sacrifice was not in vain.

>> No.6354567

>>6354434
>>6354560
NovelAI made model that seems pretty restrictive to assure a much better quality, the results are convincing generations, but with very similar artstyle in every picture. If you test waifu diffusion or any other AI model, you get all sort of styles, but it will look mostly really, really bad, unless you use lots of prompts, both positive and negative.

>> No.6354574

>Thank you AI for showing me what the vast majority of people want.
If you needed AI to learn that most people want to look at titillating things, you might be brain-damaged. The idea that it is the only thing they want, or that appealing to the majority is somehow a worthy goal in art is also braindead,

>>6352892
>Even this kind of post is becoming a cliche.
That's probably the most hilarious part of this, the immense Dunning-Kruger effect on people who think this is a super-tech with inventive powers. Of course their imaginations end at copypasting the same soundbytes, so it's obvious they'd be poor judges of that.

>6352895
>Even chatbots are getting really good bro
Piss off already with the counterfactuals. Nobody cares about your sci-fi wishlist. Talk about current capacity or just don't post.

Ban AI threads.

>> No.6354585

>>6352859
don't see any any fingers or hands so I immediately assume the illustration is done by AI, no questions asked

>> No.6354591

>>6354574
>Ban AI threads.
Ban nimrods that want to ban things.

>> No.6354598

>>6354591
Do you talk about comics on /fit/? About anime on /tg/?
AI vomit is unrelated to critiquing artwork and creating art. They can fuck off all the way back to /g/.

>> No.6354612

>>6354598
Calm down and take your Truvada.

>> No.6354623

>>6352889
I’m an artist and I’ve been saying all along that normies will gobble this tech up. The sell outs would cope and tell me that normies will always pay for the human touch. No. Other artists might commission for that reason. Normies will always choose the immediate, free thing they can customize at will over paying bloated prices for a simple character drawing that they get months (sometimes years) later and don’t have to tip toe around some temperamental artists mood if they want a correction or two. Infinite free shit with no middle man will always trump the human touch to everyone but a true artist.

>> No.6354665

>>6354187
russian and pajet already makes millions with deep fake on only fan

>> No.6354824

Coom artists will be the ones hit the hardest. I can simply pop up the AI, jack off to my waifu in many different poses and outfits and close it down. No need to buy any art anymore.

>> No.6354855

>>6354623
If there becomes some great art community with artists sharing stuff, I am all for it. Hobbyists will still have their niece no matter how great ai art will become. It’s already a thing with the indie scene producing technically inferior products in film and gaming industry, but having the personal touch, or soul if you will. Fags say corporate rectangle and tube art style is soulless, but that is mostly because of who uses it. People will flock to art forms not automated or hard to automate (physical art). Of course this market will be smaller, but still existing. This however should not make people think that it will be viable carrier.

>> No.6354864

>>6354824
How do you think horny artists who don’t sell commissions will fare? Like the people who just post their stuff on Twitter or rule34. Yes, I could download this program and tell it the stuff I want, but I have to Lear to prompt, craft my prompt, then shift through library of same looking images only to find something I probably already had in my imagination, versus going on some porn site and look at the various characters of varying art styles, having their porn mini lores, and discovering new kinks potentially. It’s weird to automate something that was already for free basically.

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>>6352859
Good morning sirs

>> No.6354868

>>6354824
You pajeets have been saying this for months and it still hasn't happened.

>> No.6354876

>You automobile lovers have been saying this for years yet horse drawn carriages still dominate

>> No.6354909
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>>6354868
Cope and rope, the end is already coming. I would personally (if you make income on NSFW art) to consider alternative means of revenue from art especially if you make a career/living out of it.

>> No.6354932

>>6354909
Rajeev, did you know that internet porn, drawn or not, has been free for decades? And yet, still being produced, probably more than ever and with even more profit? Give a thousand men a computer, all of them will use it for porn! For whatever reason, a handful of them will pay for it. Do you think your software will change their minds? They PAY for something that is FREE. Not because they can't get it for free but because they are pure impulse, something your gacha photobasher can't handle. He doesn't want to pull the lever and see what pops out. He knows, instinctively, what he desires, and his wire transfer moves the heavens and earth.

>> No.6354942

>>6354932
You morons are so fucking retarded, Christ. No shit internet porn is free, but the reason people commissioned coom artists was to see their OCs or favorite characters getting fucked. This makes that obsolete. Is that so hard to understand? Imbecile.

>> No.6354943

>>6354909
my comms havent showed signs of stopping at all

>> No.6354947

>>6352859
>>6352889
It takes from a small pool of highly skilled artists. Think about it:
>Most people cannot draw
>Even fewer can draw decent
>Even fewer can draw well
>Even fewer can draw god-like

AI bros are retards. They think this tiny group of highly skilled artists are a wellspring of ever-giving art and they've already hit their limit. They are hindered because they need more of these highly skilled artists to generate more true art to stitch together and frankenstein. However, those very skilled artists are already looking to remove their art from the internet and AI art itself is destroying the art industry, discouraging aspiring artists from getting to the master level.

Ironically, AI art will either kill itself because it's parasitic and cannot function without real talented artists, or it will cannibalize other AI art, polluting itself into oblivion. Seems fitting.

>> No.6354951

>>6354942
Deepak, you've been able to do that for popular characters on the boorus for a long time. That's how your toy was trained, remember? Free sets of pornography.

>> No.6354953

>>6354942
just like piracy, faggots instantly jumping on this bandwagon would have never paid for art anyway.

>> No.6354954

>>6354942
There is also Patreons where you pay to see more porn from that creator. What? There is zetabites of porn just a mouse lick away and people still pay almost up to 30$ to see tiny bit more porn?

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>>6354942
>You morons are so fucking retarded, Christ. No shit internet porn is free, but the reason people commissioned coom artists was to see their OCs or favorite characters getting fucked. This makes that obsolete. Is that so hard to understand? Imbecile.

>> No.6354957

Oh they seething

>> No.6354959
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>>6354947
AI will rise the bar of creativity and skill
patreon and twitter whores will die and only real artists will prevail it's a win-win situation

>> No.6354961

>>6354947
God hate AI

>> No.6354963

>>6354959
pyw /beg/shit

>> No.6354966

>>6354947
It also takes from random objects and photos. Art is the overwhelming minority of these generators.

>> No.6354971

>>6354947
Yeah, you've pretty much summed it up. There's a reason why a large percentage of the machine generated hentai that I see pop-up looks like it was cobbled together from pieces by Mogudan.
>>6354959
Perfection! I too am a fan of the "bendable rubber bar behind the shoulders bench press."

>> No.6354972
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>>6354961
you hate AI because overnight people with ZERO drawing/art experience are able to quit literally *imagine* things into existence. That bothers you, and ultimately regardless of how much better you can try to be over AI, you now have another competing factor in the art world and this time its from utter morons with Tensor GPUs.

>> No.6354975

>>6354959
That doesn't make any sense. Patreon and Twitter will prevail because you just can't do anything with these grafted images outside of make fanart of very popular characters (usually with fucked up limbs). That picture there is just a popular Pokemons character's head stitched to another characters body.

What motive would "real artists" have if the industries die off? Why would anyone want to reach master level just to have an AI small penis haver to steal it? You're playing with fire. There's already a lot of lower level artists that are discouraged to do more. There won't be anymore artists of this caliber to steal from soon, but you seem very sure of yourself.

>> No.6354976

>>6354959
>AI will rise the bar of creativity and skill
Elaborate

>> No.6354978

>>6354972
>people with ZERO drawing/art experience are able to quit literally
Finally the nodraws can quit literally, and we won't ever hear from them again.

>> No.6354979

>>6354972
>we imagine things into existence
You mean type in a prompt or hashtag that was stolen from a real artist that had it tagged as that? What the fuck are you on about? It's literally like going to danbooru, typing in "blonde", then stealing the first blonde you can find and then stitching it onto the body of your choice. It's called image grafting and it's not revolutionary.

You are still talentless, you will never draw at that level, you can never replace those artists. Seethe, cope, and dilate.

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>>6354972
i don't care. no one will ever congratulate them for being good at it so all they get from me is pity. they can play with their goyslop dispenser all they want while I enjoy actual art with my clients and fellow artbros.

>> No.6354981

>>6354972
Not him, but your statement is false propaganda. AI does not make images you imagine, it makes stuff you suggest it, and then makes something similar. You probably didn’t imagine her in this pose, or if it was your OC, it would probably wear different outfit and have different hairstyle and so on. There is only so much information you can store in a word prompt, and most of the picture is imagined by the ai. The ai is doing the creative process for you. This is why lot of artists hate it and don’t see it as a tool, because as a tool it fucking sucks, but to a person who only ever suggested stuff to another person to draw it, you don’t see it as a limitation. You say good looking girl and it gives you good looking girl, so it must be doing something right.

>> No.6354984

>>6354976
Probably means that you will attach more funky original stuff to OCs. Furry wolf character with colourful fur? Nah, make it dragon Cerberus alien with carapace and body proportions that make biological sense. Some shit AI would never do because people can’t describe them in form of prompts.

>> No.6354985

>>6354984
And artists won't want to post the results because some AI leech will just feed it into their custom training set.

>> No.6354990

>>6354985
Exactly. Thieves aren't concerned with the well-being of who they steal from, just like AI bros aren't concerned with the source of their art. The problem is they steal from a real human artist who's aware their art is being stolen, thus having them either remove their art from dangerous places (danboorus, Twitter, pixiv, etc.) and hurting all of us.

>> No.6354994

>>6354985
>>6354990
And yet free porn is everywhere and people are still paying for it. 2022. Still paying for porn. And it's not really like anything from 2022 is really "new" either. Just the latest permutation of what's already been coomed to. And it's still generating income even though it ought to be interchangeable with comparable free porn, or literally the same porn but just ripped from the provider and made free. You've got both free options, and somebody is still willing to pay. And if you still aren't getting it, you're ngmi.

>> No.6354997

>>6354994
Non sequitur. What does porn have to do with anything?

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reminder that AI art is a fad and is already dying, pic related: you can see the novelty of novelAI wear off rather quickly on /h/.

>> No.6355016

>>6355013
what is that graph? and what's the website

>> No.6355019

>>6355016
4stats.io

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Ai is not the issue here. The issue is techy nerd types are the ones using it right now and their tastes are undeveloped.

The irony is, now more than ever, in order to be an artist you need to have an imagination and a unique perspective, not skills. Its actually quite a brilliant turn of events

>> No.6355029

>>6354997
Harshit, it's produced at an absurd rate despite being totally free because somebody is still paying for it. How is your photobashing program any different? Did infinite free porn end the production of porn? Somewhere out there, you've got one coomer paying for what thousands view for free. Until you figure out what his problem is, you will not redeem.

>> No.6355033

>>6355019
Thanks. I have noticed that the /sdg/ threads on /g/ are quite dead lately, it seems that the novelty is wearing off. The initial hype is gone, people have figured out what this thing is and is not capable of, and turns out it's pretty shitty overall.

>> No.6355034

>>6355029
what the fuck is your point?

>> No.6355041

>>6354990
It bothers me when I see people argue that the machine "learns" the same way people do as some sort of justification for the image gathering... Which is not only false, but sounds like the beginning of trying to attribute some sort of "rights" to the program, independent of those using it and those used by it. "Hey, my eyes saw you changing through your window and now the image is in my memory, so you'd be OK with my phone snapping a photo of it, right? I mean, it just views the image and captures it in its DIGITAL memory, right? Same thing."
The generator also only knows the end results of art, because it was trained entirely on photos and illustrations - it doesn't understand any fundamentals, it doesn't understand processes, it doesn't understand anything, and it has never interacted with or observed real life, which is the primary foundation of every artist's work, no matter which style or medium they choose. It also seems prone to making bizarre mistakes which either a human would never make, or would be telltale signs of tracing.

>> No.6355050

Trans girls are girls.
AI art is art.

>> No.6355059

>>6355023
>>6352859
>artificial
It's not artificial. It requires 100% organic human input.
>intelligent
Humans are also tweaking it and it's being shilled on 4chan because they want us to do it for them. It is not "learning". That's assigning a human value to something that is an image grafter.
>art
It is art in that it's stolen art. The original art is underneath the bad filters and spliced on bodies, somewhere.

Tragic you think this is anything other than an image scraper with a filter over it.

>> No.6355061
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>>6354972

>> No.6355065

>>6355029
What the fuck does porn have to do with anything, again? Porn is for retards. I don't care if retards buy porn or watch it for "free". Most porn websites have trackers and sell your information that claim they don't charge, so yes, almost all porn is monetized. You're too stupid to make an argument so you maybe need to go take your dick back to /h/.

>> No.6355070

>>6355065
Well, the thread itself started about machine generated coomer art over on Pixiv, so that's probably why the discussions trend back to porn

>> No.6355072

>>6355059
Yeah it is doing that but then, depending on how you use it, I do a reverse image search for something and there's literally nothing like what it just created. So if what it produces is unique, why does it matter?

I'm not doing voluptuous anime teens. I think a lot of people have no idea how capable it is.

>> No.6355078

>>6355072
>I do a reverse image search for something and there's literally nothing like what it just created.
That's a Google search problem, not a lack of art problem. It's not unique, you're just having a hard time finding the source.

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/is-google-search-worse/446919/

>> No.6355087

>>6355078
That's news to me but there's no way to know the extent of that. How can I find out if my image is unique? Its easy to say 'its not' but we can't be sure

>> No.6355092

>>6355087
... especially if there are many elements to your prompt

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>>6354975
>>6354979
>>6354990
>steal
>implying
the artist still have his original piece if you draw or photography the sun you stole it?

>> No.6355096

>>6355095
Holy copium. So stealing from professionals is the same as a plant reproducing? You are too retarded. Also ESL.

>> No.6355097

>>6355096
yep is fucking retarded some jews want to patent plants genes. did you paid for all your used references sholomon?

>> No.6355129

>>6354972
>able to quit literally *imagine* things into existence.
Prove it, fag. Generate an on-model picture of classic Sonic the Hedgehog shaking hands with Snoopy the Dog.

>> No.6355132

>>6354909
>>6354959
>the same Pokemon and Fate character spammed on other boards
Thank you for continuing to prove that the AI spam on this site has been from one schizophrenia ESL weeb. Now start using toilets.

>> No.6355216

>>6355095
The sun isn't man-made or copyrighted you donkey. Are you being this retarded on purpose?

>> No.6355228

https://huggingface.co/spaces/Mubert/Text-to-Music
Musicians are done, they already have public text2music. Ok, now can you shills go on to /mu/ and start spamming it there how it’s the beginning of songpocalipse and how bunch of losers writing few buzzwords of text into some generator is the future?

>> No.6355232

>>6355228
>open music generator
>alexa, generate: imagine dragons, pop rock, pop, indie pop, indie rock
>get torn to bits by big music lawyers the second your mangled atrocity comes out of the machines womb
hilarious

>> No.6355243

>>6355034
>>6355065
Pradeep, you're making something "free" that was already free to begin with.

>> No.6355245

>>6355228
>>6355232
Even StabilityAI is scared to shit of the music industry
>p-p-p-please dont sue us, we care about artists too!! Look we're only using royalty free datasets! aieeeeeeeeee
This double standard is hilariously incriminating
https://twitter.com/arvalis/status/1583424668752441345

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>>6355232
>ALEXA!, generate: moon man, country, medieval folk, punk rock

>> No.6355267

visual artistbros...i kneel to musician chads...

>> No.6355270

>>6353917
I'm curious to see what these 3d printed pottery looks like if they felt threatened by it considering print lines happen.

>> No.6355271

>>6354598
>About anime on /tg/?
Bad example since there's /tg/ related anime that can be kosher.

>> No.6355274

>>6354824
>>6354909
>>6354942
>different poses
You're the retard here if you actually believe that.

>> No.6356785

This Stable Diffusion shit has shaken the world. The genie is out of the bottle.
Run

>> No.6356833

>>6355245
>>6355267
You will be able to train the AI with your favorite song yourself morons

>> No.6356836

>>6355232
>plagiarisizing an unoriginal genre of music that consists of plagiarisms
Lawyers don't even know what to do with AI and for most of them it's not even on their radar but cope more I guess. What's going to happen is spotify is going to roll out their patented AI to detect plagiarism and take a dump on the goyslop that is modern music.

>> No.6356848

>>6356836
I can already see an "alternate" platform for AI music where you can listen whatever stupid version of favorite song in any style
>oh sweet, Let it Be electro punk dark metal

They will create this platform under the label of "freedom" or shit maybe the server will host the content in some third world shithole or something, I tell you, this AI thing is unstoppable

>> No.6357043

All that technology...just to become a coom dispenser KEK

>> No.6358641

be scared of ai
not using Ai to do shitty furry commission fasters so you have more time for your soulful work

>> No.6358644

>>6352859
>what the vast majority of people want
I am sorry, do you really think we care for troglodytes?

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>>6352859
>AI producing bots
>AI advancing through machine learning
>AI producing its own textbased stories
>AI producing music
>AI producing art
YOU ARE HERE
>AI producing comics and manga
>AI producing animation
>AI producing vtubers
>AI producing small animated films
>AI producing TV shows
>AI producing anime
>AI producing 3D actors
>AI producing movies
>AI producing code generators
>AI replacing entry-level jobs including in IT
>AI replacing jobs in non-IT industries
>AI causing the next recession or next depression

>> No.6358712

>>6354959
>AI will rise the bar of creativity and skill
No it won't, pajeet. An artbot is nothing without its master. The master being a human.

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>>6353271
>>6353279
>negative prompt: toliet

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>>6358706

>> No.6358716

>>6358706
Code generators are already here, same with entry level jobs in IT. Put those two above animation and you are correct.

>> No.6358719

>>6358706
Man today you are really desperate.

>> No.6358724

>>6354942
You pay for the time to make the art, not necessarily the art piece itself.

This is what these fucking pajeet code monkeys don't get. It's take TIME to make an art piece, & usually the more complex the art is, the more time is required. That's why they are called commissions. Someone pays you for the time to make the art, & you make it.

Captcha: ANY0VA

>> No.6358760

>>6354085
Makes you wonder how long this technology has truly been around for. Fuck art, I'm questioning the authenticity of everything I've seen on the internet now.

>> No.6358762

>>6358641
>pay me for something you can do yourself in a couple of clicks

>> No.6358795

>>6358762
Show us then?

>> No.6358799

>>6358795
>Show me what has been shown a thousand times

>> No.6358800

>>6358799
You got no proof as usual then. Good to know.

>> No.6358818

>>6352866
On deviantart there are already faggots selling AI shit as not tagged and as commissions.

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>>6358762
i mean using ai with your sktech as a ref
to go faster did a quick exemple with very few prompt

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>>6358837

>> No.6358857

>>6358818
Don't the hands give it away it's AI
Guess can't expect coomers to think for more than one sec

>> No.6358861

>>6358837
okay but literally all of these suck ass

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>>6358861
yeah like a lot but nothing stop you from tracing them and fixes the issue at the same time

and who know with a proprer tranning like the other tread i saw where a woman artist style got into ai model
this can be a good tool for artists

>> No.6358867

>>6358866
>topright
fucking kek

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>>6358866

>> No.6358898

Uuuhhh why are coomers still making coom art? This was supposed to kill them....

>> No.6358902

>>6358837
>"look at how much time I'm saving"
> end result is nothing but trash
Save time by giving up

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>>6358898
It's because I want to immerse myself with the drawing, invoke something intimate with the fictional figure and even experience what you're portraying on canvas. It's aesthetics, and that's what makes art.

>> No.6358910

>>6358903
Based coomer

>> No.6358914

>>6358800
The proof is all over here, /gd/, and /trash/ you're just a promptcel playing dumb once again

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>>6355258
>Alexa generate moon man

>> No.6358917

>>6358866
No one respected tracing before, they won't suddenly respect it now just out of convenience for you.

>> No.6359249

>>6358866
how is that AI called?

>> No.6359272

>>6359249
Stable Diffusion, no idea about the model he is using or hypernetworks if any

>> No.6359309

>>6358866
>"man-made horrors beyond your imagination"

>> No.6359311

>>6358818
frauds have been around for ages this is nothing new

>> No.6359312

>>6359309
He wasn't kidding, pretty sure he will be beyond horrified if he were to witness this.

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>>6358818
I'm sure they aren't making a dime of it given everybody knows the fucking scam and also knowing the fact anyone can make their own AI art. People will always seek out artist with real skills and style.

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>>6353297
I get sexually aroused by anime toilet art no lie

>> No.6360169

>>6352866
turn of events? I was expecting this since DALL-E (1) came to be year and a half ago.

and yeah I have learn more about artists and styles in this past 2 months than in the rest of my life

>> No.6360631

>>6352895
Nah, normal people won't want to communicate with ai chatbots when it isn't a novelty no matter how good they get.

>> No.6361142

>>6352859
>Thank you AI for showing me what the vast majority of people want.
anon people have been complaining about the popularity of this kind of stuff for years. Are you stupid?

>> No.6361215

>>6352895
and we'll have flying cars by 1993

>> No.6361219

>>6358837
>the hands
lmao

>> No.6361228

>>6361215
Flying cars will never be a thing not because it is hard to invent, but because the energy cost is stupidly high and the practicality of it is none. Plane pilots are trained more then your average retard with car license because of the dangers of flying. Flying cars would have to be put only to designated flying car highways and there would be nothing able to restrict criminals using them. Catching a car is far easier then catching plane with plane, not to mention the possibility of flying cars dropping from the sky on structures and people.

Yes, you can get retarded inventions being released to the public and seeing the consequences, but that requires the tech to be cheap and easy to distribute. Cars are hard to make and before you even have the factory build, lawyers and politicians will catch up with it and start working on restricting retarded technology from spreading. However releasing free .exe program into the wild and even making it open source will make the spread and adaption far far faster then the law and politicians can catch up to.

>> No.6361233

>>6361228
>because the energy cost is stupidly high and the practicality of it is none
yeah. i feel like this is generally true for newer technology

technology mostly used to be about how to make a machine do something useful, solving a problem in an elegant manner with the least necessary input of material/energy
now it's more using the highest input of energy/material to create something expansive and useless, and then generating "necessity" for it.

>> No.6361239

>>6361228
>the practicality of it is none
just like AI

>> No.6361249

>>6361239
It has very very little practicality, but it is piss easy to distribute, just download python and few files and you are done, soon it will be just .exe file with installer. It has no use, but it is also really cheap to redistribute unlike Flying car which would cost 80 000 dollars.
>>6361233
That was the case only for Crypto and NFTs. Our modern economy is desperate for investing into the most booming things instead of putting it into useful stuff. All tech and bigtech companies are massively overvalued despite basically producing nothing of value in recent years. This trash that makes funny images instead of making you scroll trough Twitter of buy commission is unironically more useful then 98% of all tech companies products.

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>>6354972
You still need to know how to prompt

>> No.6361289

>>6355023
>in order to be an artist you need to have an imagination and a unique perspective, not skills
it's been like this since eternity. Became more visible after so called "death of art by capitalism". Before AI d/ic/s were bitching about "death of art", but seems like capitalism saved art this time

>> No.6361295

>>6352889
AI is coming for your gay prompting soon enough, real artists will be better off than you when that happens

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>>6361281
>6361281

>> No.6361303

>>6355095
>>6355228
you must to go back

>>6358914
if you avoid AI threads in /trash/ you won't see AI shit at all

>> No.6361589

>>6358898
Because the anatomical specificity and nuance that's crucial to making good coomer art is light years away from being captured properly by AI -- and this would be real AI, actual computer sentience that doesn't exist.

Of course with tech companies beleaguered by copyright litigation there's no reason to invest in technology that has no corporate application. So AI shills might be stuck with this garbage forever, seething at artists who continue to thrive while their new NFT trend fizzles out unceremoniously. They can already see it too, which is why they break down into hilarious ESL profanity spasms when you point it out

>> No.6361635

>>6361589
>anatomical specificity and nuance
you don't need agi for that, even current gen guided diffusion models can do it but they are much larger models that can't run on consumer hardware, few years down the line maybe.

>> No.6361681

>>6361635
>even current gen guided diffusion models can do

As always waiting for proof to be posted. Even Google's top-end model still can't execute specific prompts without seas of errors.

>> No.6361695

>>6361681
Well you got me there, It's stuff only accesssible to the people working on it atm. We'll just have to wait and see.

>> No.6361697

>>6361281
>You still need to know how to prompt
You still need to know how to copy and paste.

>> No.6361728

>>6354876
>comparing art to cars
damn these AIs are so good they can do captcha now.....thats about it

>> No.6361730

>>6354909
Draw hands nigga

>> No.6361737

>>6354942
Oh the so intelligent shit head graces us with objective facts that are not biased at all.

why do you hate artistis ?
and do you perhaps envy them
do you even know what art is ?

>> No.6361754

>>6354959
ya know some things are supposed to be sacred and reserved for humans only ya know ? what next ? Ai sings our songs ? Ai writes our stories ? Ai has fun for us ? ai takes the joy of the process of creation away from us ? for what ? a cheap and easy solution that will make us appreciate nothing anymore ? for the sake of chemical joy and consumption.

envious talent-less fags are truly soulless and braindead. it would be understandable if they couldn't create art. but they can. they are just lazy

>> No.6361761

>>6354972
ofc it bothers us. just like how a tranny bothers us. its violates the sacristy of making art. mass produced clobbered together art. the effort and skill required and the determination needed to keep getting better at art and the sense of achievement that lets you be proud with what you have made . all out the window for cheap results that induce short term chemical pleasure.

imagine working out to achieve a fit muscular body. to be proud with what you have become. the status of being strong is immediately shat on because pajeet invented a new cream that gives everyone the achievement You worked hard for.
no one is great if everyone is great

>> No.6361762

>>6354980
Based

>> No.6361773

>>6355041
exactly that. but the fags do not care about art for they dont understand nor are willing too. to them the results are all that is needed

>> No.6361786

>>6355095
holy fucking shit how braindead do you have to be ?
>Hey you stole my blueprint and design ideas !

>nah dude you still have it right there. btw copy and steal are different words...dude

>> No.6361797

>>6361281
i puke

>> No.6361804

>>6361786
Don't bother. Pajeets don't know the meaning of hard work. It's a country of scammers and thieves.

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I'm shocked that people are bad at prompting. It's fucking easy.

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>>6362027
Drop the scale to low and you stop getting the distinctive AI style

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is this the thread?

>> No.6362111

>>6361281
>dat gut butt
lmao

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>>6361773
this

this anon generated hundreds of images in a few hours just today trying to get his perfect gabbo waifu, he was never your customer, he doesn't care about art

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>>6362116
The future is looking so bright bros.

>> No.6362124

>>6362116
every image becomes more soulless

>> No.6362125

>>6362124
Post your work.

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>>6362116

>> No.6362139

>>6362134
That is a perfectly fine opinion on a product you do not make enjoyed by somebody you do not know and will never interact with all.

>> No.6362141

>>6362134
see >>6362125

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>the future is looking so bright sisters!

>> No.6362143

>>6362108
;_;

>> No.6362144

>>6362142
>twitter troons calling chud weebs troons
lmao

>> No.6362192

Denovo draw something better than A.I. and post it. Show us some soul.

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>>6352942
Machine learning is a meme. Don't kid yourself. Computers are dumber than us. The artbots are nothing without their masters aka humans.

>> No.6362467

how's cryptocoin going techbros. How's NFTs going. You making money with AI art yet lol?

>> No.6362483

>>6362467
NFTs are the funniest shit because it's a bunch of art thieves with malicious code exchanging funny money with other thieves then crying when they get scammed or rugged.

They will never be us. They will never draw. They cannot create. They have no talent.

>> No.6362541

>>6362467
I wish artists used a quarter of the energy they used to hate NFTs to do something about NovelAI/Stable Diff which contrary represent an actual existential risk

>> No.6362543

>>6362541
Even if artists tried to united they never had the huge monoliths behind them with actually capable lawyers the music industry has. The visual art community is more dispersed, and it's more inviting because of this, so its strength was its weakness this time. It's easy to just tell artists "should have use your energy on this" but the reality is much more complicated.

>> No.6362549

>>6352893
what do you mean? how is crappy and noticeably unintelligible AI art even related to actual art outside of producing content for non-artist coomers which most of us are not interested in? it could be if it took the form of more advanced tools in the hands of artists, in the same manner as all the functionality in an art graphics program, as that would have intelligence and sensibility behind it, but this isn't it. even technically bad art is better because it is more coherent and more varied despite the artist drawing from a much smaller and narrower sample when learning. could be a good toy to get people interested in art.

>> No.6362569

>>6362549
>could be a good toy to get people interested in art.
All I saw it do was actually kill the motivation in artists to do art

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What is with ai art that makes people mald, seethe, cope and dilate so hard? It’s just a new tool

>> No.6362617

>>6362580
It makes people mad because there's nothing more cucked than having your own work literally stolen from you and being sold back in the form of a "tool" with no say or compensation on your part.

Do you think this is where it stops? With you sitting at the computer being the Promptmaster? As soon as these things can generate prompts on their own they'll stop releasing builds to the public. Promise.

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>>6362580
>i-i-i-i-i-i-its just a tool
so are you, according to pajeet

>> No.6362653

>>6362580
left looks way better

>> No.6362672

>>6362651
Fucking christ this man has never drawn a single goddamn thing in his life and it shows.

>> No.6362677

>>6362651
antihumanism at its finest

>> No.6362678

>>6362580
If you hate yourself and the things you make so much then just kill yourself I like the first image and see potential in it even if you can't imagine finding your own work so repulsive that you have to ask a bot to do it for you jesus christ just walk into traffic it would be far more logical than whatever it is you thought you were doing by posting that

>> No.6362740

>>6362116
Every one of those pictures looks like the girls are made of melting wax and broken glass.

>> No.6362818

>>6362617
>>6362651
>>6362653
>>6362678
See? Malding, seething, coping, dilating over literal nothing

>> No.6362828

>>6362651
Pajeets are the definition of soulless bugs

>> No.6362842

>>6362818
My advice to kill yourself is genuine you would be better off ai doesn't make me seethe at all but fags like you who would sell out not only yourself but all human creativity to corpos looking for gibs are just fucking scum and thats what this is all this "ai" shit is the beta for the new corporate era you techfags will grovel and beg corpos for a le epic cyberpunk syfy future but we already live there they don't need the syfy shit thats just aesthetics the technology of control is the real dystopia and Ai will be the final nail in the coffin the cyberpunk space fantasy is never happening not within the current system

>tl;dr
"AI" is the irl Metal Gear and support of it is anti human and aifags who use ai to "finish" images should find the nearest rope

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>>6362842
based technophile murderer

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>pajeets who aren't even aware of 4chins live rent free in artfag heads

>> No.6363032

>>6362842
>ai doesn't make me seethe at all
Not sure if the cope is too big, but you are seething, malding, coping and dilating so hard rn it’s funny

>> No.6363033

>>6358724
so you are shit at art.

>> No.6363106

>>6363032
>seethe cope seethe cope
Did I break the bot?

>> No.6363126

>>6352911
ur mother doesnt love u.

>> No.6363392

>>6352866
based pepe appreciater

>> No.6363398

>>6362580
You could have the exact same result just by typing a few prompts, you art isn't needed, AI generates the art by itself, therefore, it's not a tool, but an automated 24/7 free artist.

>> No.6363402

>>6362653
Contrarian u

>> No.6363409

>>6362617
>sitting at the computer being the Promptmaster?
Since AI art is such a simple task, this job won't pay well once the technology becomes widely known and used. If you want to make money with AI you'll need to heavily your generations or make unique models.

>> No.6363428

>>6362108
I know it goes absolutely cheap in the way it tries to force you to feel something.
But it did tug on my heartstrings, I wish I could buy a picture from the little girl.

>> No.6363741

>>6362842
Nuclear Waluigi, is that you?

>> No.6364184

>>6363409
>If you want to make money with AI
Why the fuck would you want to do that? Why would you give away the one product you have complete control over to an AI that will, by its very nature, usurp that control from you and then sell it on to other people without you?
>b-but I can make money selling to the AI
Don't be a fucking moron. What makes more money: selling a product directly every time, or selling a product to a company that reverse-engineers it, sells it far more quickly than you ever could, and then locks you out of the market? There's a reason why companies only ever sell products and not the means to create the products.

Watch what happens when they perfect AI creative systems. (You) will be stuck with the faulty builds of today assuming that they even keep the servers and databases for them online and accessible. The companies will keep the next-gen builds under lock and key and charge your stupid ass per the picture. It'll be like the current art market all over again, except now you're paying a soulless corporate shambler to have an AI spit out an image instead of a real person. We should know by now that technology is only made public long enough for the public to improve it so that it can be privatized again. Technology doesn't democratize a single fucking thing as long as corporations hold onto the means. This isn't going to "democratize art" any more than Uber and Seamless made drivers and deliverymen into "their own bosses."

It's fuck or be fucked, and when someone else is holding all the knowledge and all the money but it doesn't seem like (You) are getting fucked, that's because they're playing a far longer and more complex game than you are.

>> No.6364198

>>6354947
this is the goal, get good at art and not post it on the internet as a weird form of spite

>> No.6364201

>>6364184
You blackpilled me.

>> No.6364204

>>6363409
No one is going to make money from AI (except the people running scams right now, but eventually people will wise up).
If you can do an “AI commission” then a Nigerian can do it too, for only 50 cents.
If you want to make money from art then you need to do something that the AI can’t do. That’s all there is to it.

>> No.6364228

>>6364184
Very adequately put things into words, holy shit
How can people not see its literally the opposite of "democratization of art"

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>>6364201
Blackpilling isn't the point. The point is that if the art community wants to survive this bullshit they need to actually play the game and lawyer the fuck up. The AI corps knke (You) won't do it which is why they scrape whole boorus for training data unabashedly. Could you imagine a music generator scraping all of YouTube and Spotify? They never could, and they never would, because they know that as soon as a single copyrighted song was detected in their database the rabid lawyers locked in the basement of the RIAA's headquarters would eat their entire company alive in an apeshit cannibalistic ritual. They would not survive. They even fucking know this which is why the music gen version of one of the more popular AI art programs only uses COPYRIGHT-FREE MUSIC. They KNOW you will bend over and present your ass, which is why all they've done is said "don't mind if I do mate" and started fucking it. They WANT you to blackpill because that means they get all your art, all your years of training and effort, and your entire fucking industry all to themselves with no effort whatsoever.

This isn't about getting blackpilled, it's about fucking back. If people who have grievances and damages actually fucking countersued and won, these programs would hit the dumpster overnight. The ideal world for the artist is one where training data must be voluntarily opt-in on the part of the artist, with usage rights and price-per-use agreed upon before submission. Anything short of that is a loss, and the only way to get to it is to sue. So get out there and encourage people to start exploring their legal options. It's the only way this ends in our favor.

>> No.6364625

>>6352859
Proof that anime and comics are both generic trite.

>> No.6364728

>>6352859
I can't get off to AI. To me porn must have libidinal energy behind, coomer pheromone's. Machine sex is nothing.

>> No.6364866

>>6364228
umm, calm down luddite sweety. it's the same that happened with your precious art software, pens, pencils, paper, ink, etc. It's all corpoed at some point. This AI tech expands the population capable of making quality art work (ai artists) while diluting your labor value. While private ai tech will be ahead, the open source nature of it will allow for independent advancements at your continued expense. So again, calm your cope and look for another field to work in as your hobby is not a long term career, sweety.

>> No.6364907

>>6364866
Don't you call yourself an "artist" you retard, you will never create anything in your life.
>This AI tech expands the population capable of making quality art work (ai artists)
And simultaneously makes everything AI is able to do worthless, bravo. All it does is raising the bar of entry to enter ~the industry~, the situation doesn't change outside of that, labor value of sufficiently skilled artists isn't affected by it.

>> No.6364926

>>6364907
I'll call myself whatever I want, goycattle cannonfodder.

>> No.6364931

Just get real job and make art a hobby. You'll make more money and probably better art, especially if you learn how to use A.I.

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>>6364602
Lawyer up? With what money? Your meager coom commissions, LOL! Unlike the music industry, you're poor, have no institutional backing, no lawyers, and decentralized with not even a union.

>>6364907
There's no need to cope and start being a racist against us, ai artists. Our work is just as cute and valid as yours if not more so. You're right that the more ai is a devaluation of ai. But that's perfectly fine for us people who don't want to commit their entire careers and years of study+practice for virtually nothing. It's much smarter to dabble in it as a hobby or side skill than be a retard and become some backwards amish fellow doing things the meaninglessly old and hard way. Work smarter not harder of course.

And it's great that you agree that the industry requires even more skills. A shame that all those who committed years of work, even budding traditional artists, are being snipped in the bud as they simply cannot adapt to the changing industry. But don't worry the higher end proompters will take it from here. The ambitious ones who fully understand and embrace the technology by molding them together. It's a shame that it'll result in many luddites who reject change and will starve in their cuck sheds since the common layman can churn out a higher quality general piece than they can in the fraction of the time. It's like a penny of effort really.

>> No.6364944

>>6364866
AI artists don't exist, the computer does all the work and you just commission it by prompting.

AI art has no value exactly because no skill and effort is needed, leading to a very low price per art. Prompters won't be making much money unless they actually move their lazy ass and learn a little of art to at least heavily edit the results, making the art a unique piece instead of an algorithm generated result easily achieved by anyone.

>> No.6364954

>>6364942
Oh and I'd pay an oldie artist to fix up the text. But that'd be cents on the dollar, since I cooould clean it quicker than they ever could using inpaint. A shame that the traditional artist has been reduced to cleaning up behind the ai's stinky. Ah, the troubles of being an ai prompt artist!

>> No.6364980

I think it's funny how musicians, especially singers, will never be replaced entirely because they are the ultimate copyright enforcers of the world, you will get striked by even thinking about a certain copyright music...now artists, they are just way too isolated in their own world to act as a class.

>> No.6364986

>>6364944
Hmm, that sounds like a lot of cope since you forget, composition, selectivity, coloring, style choice, etc. such as a photographer or some retard that starts spraying a blank canvas with almost random abstract patterns of paint. The ai does a lot of the work, but not all the work just like your blurring tools when creating digital art for furries to make rent.

I also disagree about your appraisal of ai art. If ai art is low value, then that make the vast majority of traditional artists be of even lesser value. As the ai generated art draws consumers more readily to the piece than some green artist's best at the fraction of an oldie professional's time to finish.

The next point is that it's not about making money as a prompter. Us ai artists are generally above such concerns. Because only a sap would invest their money making time into an increasingly extreme low labor market environment. It's really about flooding the art market to fill in traditionally lucrative art commissions like furry porn fetishes, etc. Obviously specificity is a current challenge. But we both know that it's inevitable that progress will be made each and every day in this extremely fast developing technology.
Not only will artist need to be on top of ai art, they also need to distinguish themselves further by being able to be good writers and start making comic/manga narratives to their works, maybe even animations. But even with that we both know how that'll eventually end. It's only a matter of time. And the masses love it, because it's art on demand while filling many niche demands. ;)

>> No.6364996

>>6364980
That's what happens when you're forced to bring your industry back from the brink of collapse due to rampant theft and piracy becoming the norm. Sounds kinda familiar doesn't it.

>> No.6365002

>>6364980
The music industry is harder. But it's ok, the tech will just be given to chinese to develop the technology. They'll then export the trained models to the west and eventually enough people will use the free version to dilute the music industry market too. Can't wait for the ai music videos, video games, movies, etc.

>> No.6365015

>>6364986
Why would anyone pay something anyone can do? It takes zero skills to make AI art, the things you said are simply vague directions you prompt, the AI will still make it all alone.If you say to a 5 years old kid to copy and paste a prompt and a seed, you'll get the exact same result, pixel by pixel.

If you give the best painting software to a 5 years old kid, they won't make anything because it takes skills, craftsmanship, knowledge, etc.

AI art is worthless not because the results are bad, the generated result may look great, but why would someone pay for that? I would only pay for things I can't do myself. That's what devaluate AI art, not the quality.

>> No.6365022

>>6365015
The saddest thing is that AI art will devalue art in general.

>> No.6365026

>>6365002
>Can't wait for the ai music videos, video games, movies, etc.
I'm not an artist, but holy shit, do you guys really are so eager to replace all kind of humans? Is it really a good thing? If this keep going, even what you do for living will also get replaced my AI and you'll need to "cope", like the millions of others we've been making fun of.

Well, I guess it's the basic of human nature to wish the worst for the others while they are on the top, but this will eventually cause a crysis and mass unemployment in all sectors, no one should feel safe.

>> No.6365029

>>6365015
Same result? Nope, random seeds exist for a reason. I can choose to have it replicate or randomize a bit based on specificity. That 5 yr old kid could just keep prompting or be inspired by other styles, works, and prompts. They could also be satisfied with the overwhelming and easily acquired quality of the work they churned out, which are usually more captivating than most traditional artists. And please don't deny reality by saying there isn't any technique, tools, and knowledge that the prompter uses, because we both know that claiming such is a cope since they do.

Ai art is not worthless. Art is more than just money. It's value. Value that the consumers place.
I think the true fear here is that luddites don't care about ai art being worthless. I think they really fear that their work will become worthless/ less valuable as a sense of career and ego insecurity. Afterall, all that work being for nothing would feel terrible to anyone, fren.

>> No.6365036

>>6365026
The only ones hating on artist are failed artists, anon. Those who gave up and chose the path of least resistance. They wish for others to be as pathetic as they are. Don't think too hard about it, be thankful you're not like this.

>> No.6365037

>>6365026
Dont say "we". I would never laugh at someone being replaced by a machine. This is very unecessary and people only do that to please those that are on top.

However, now that they are replacing even the creatives, this is just sinful to a degree that I never saw.

I would call it the more horrifying thing. Worse than raping and murdering children. Because even if a child is raped and murdered, as terrible as it is, it would degenerate humanity itself, as a whole, to such a repugnant state.

Someone sent me a AI generated image a few days ago, and I told him that if he was a pedophile sending me a video raping and murdering a child I wouldnt be as sad and disgusted as I was when he sent me that abomination.

>> No.6365039

>>6365037
*it wouldnt degenerate humanity itself, as a whole

Sorry, I am mistying everything. I am just too shocked.

>> No.6365040

>>6365029
I don't even understand why people bother replying to you. Whenever you get told something something you spout some random bullshit again.

>>6365037
Or you make retarded falseflags like this.

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>>6365037
based humanistCHAD dabbing on AItrannies

>> No.6365045

>>6365040
YOU are retarded, and absolutely souless. You are not even human, you are a beast and you should be put down like the filthy animal you are.

>> No.6365047
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AI art is real art
AI art isn't worthless
AI art is valid
AI rights are human rights

>> No.6365049

>>6365047
Wait... I've already heard these words somewhere

>> No.6365056

>>6365040
You're just simply coping to the arguments, plugging your ears, and refuse to adapt. All you do is respond in anger and, apparently, paranoia. You are emotionally driven. Thankfully, my ai is less so.

>> No.6365057

>>6365026
I think that was sarcasm.

>> No.6365058

>>6365042

I dont think I have anything agaisnt all trannies. I met a man once that was quite androgynous and lived as a woman, but he was very much human.

Not at all like the transhumanist pigs we find nowadays. I really feel suspicious towards people that dont look all that great and act as if the whole humanity should think about modifying themselves with technology.

When I see the supporters of AI and transhumanism I just think "no wonder", because they are often very worthless.

>> No.6365068

>>6365058
I'd consider the artists being replaced as even more worthless than those supporters. They could have a minimum wage job and still be more valuable than the average free lance coom artist in the coming market.

>> No.6365071

>>6365056
>plugging your ears
But that's what you've been doing my man. I never see AI art outside of this website anymore, but here you are still fighting against windmills.

>> No.6365075

>>6365068
I dont know.

People that say everyone should get a regular job are not the sort of people I can respect.

They are too frustrated with their own lives and they want to ruin everyone else.

That being said, I also dont like people that get into drawing just to sell porn. I think it is disrespectful to people that just a natural inclination to draw and that have a necessity to create.

But even people that actually love the craft can be replaced by AI, and this is this is the worst part.

>> No.6365079

>>6364942
If you can piss hundreds of your own money into the corporate toilet in order to churn out AI slurry I'm sure a couple hundred artists can pool for a class action.

>There's no need to cope and start being a racist against us, ai artists.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The only one coping is (You). No matter how much money you shovel into the gaping corporate mouth you will never heal the hole in your heart that comes from the knowledge that you cannot create what you want with your own two hands. Self-actualization will never be yours unless you put in the work for it.

>> No.6365080

>>6365026
Not him, but I say cant wait because of how much done I am with this world. Third world war happening one country away from me? Just wait couple of years and it will be done, you have at least 60 of them.

Not enough money? As long as you have enough to eat and drink you are ok, just move in back to your parents.

No friends? I can cope.

No gf? Just coom to porn.

But with no art there is no cope. You cant fantasize about happy future, that things will get better, because AIs will soon replace everything and there will be nothing to do. What about fantasizing about some fantasy setting, steampunk aliens living around giant anglerfish light? Nope, AI will fantasize for you in the next few years.

Absolute destruction of the possible future, there will be never any space travel, there will never be any going back to woods movement once natural resources run out, there will be nothing, just AI doing everything for you, even the enjoyment, and the worst part is that it is inevitable thanks to stuff already put in motion. China and US will just continue their dick measuring contest in AI research because if they wont, the other one will fuck them over, and the tech is moving so fast that there wont be any time to get those nations back on the same side and stop this shittering. Just look at the latest news, and say ironically how happy you are while crying and struggling to breathe from the dread you feel.

My only hope is that once we make ASI, it either will realize how miserable social media and AI made us, and will just magically get rid of all and future machine learning before launching into space, or it will put us all into Matrix style minecraft world where we can just live fulfilling lives thinking its the real world and having no soulcrushing automation happen, the only automation will be moving items from place to place and automating crafting.

>> No.6365087

>>6365080
I know this essay posts are pretty much thinly veiled shitposts.
We couldn't make a perfect image upscaler in more than a decade with ML, but suddenly we'll make a perfect picture generator with the same tech.

>> No.6365096

>>6365087
Its already perfect. This is where the doomerism comes from. We cant make self driving cars, we cant make ads algorithm that knows what the person wants even if you feed it all the data about the person, we cant make even functioning Roombas and waiter bots whose only function is to drive around the restaurant and hand people drinks.

But for some unknown fucking reason, the tech used to fuck up every upscale for 10 years manages to become the worlds best artist in span of 5 months. It cant even do img2img right, but somehow with simple description chugs out perfect pictures in mere seconds and is less demanding then your average videogame on your computer.

>> No.6365101

Why do these pictures look like absolute shit. Every time I try the program it chugs out absolute shit. Every time I look up AI art it looks like shit.

BUT then I go on /g/ thread and all of them look million times better. How is this possible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfvdre8G-eY

>> No.6365104

>>6365071
I've seen it used in a popular fighting manga, I've been seen get millions of likes on tik tok (animation especially), and there's even ai art exhibitions irl with the usual laundering of money. All of that just yesterday. I'm not worried at all about the how ai will turn out over time. Since of course, ai art generation isn't the one running out of time. Traditional artists are the ones running out of time before they really start fading.

>>6365075
You see people can still love their craft. It's just their egos are so far up their ass that they think they need that prestige/pride for having some skill/works that others praise and feed them for. Maybe they hate the competition, how others feel about their and ai's art, etc. So they choose hate over tolerance/acceptance. OIder gen artist should get a normal job if they can't support themselves with their art and just do it as a hobby. But unfortunately, some can't throw away their pride and MUST do it as a career or the world is ending for them.

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>>6365104
You reek of jealousy
Just draw man it's not hard

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>>6365101
watching AIfag circlejerking/grooming each other in real time is so surreal

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>>6365096
>Its already perfect.

>> No.6365122

>>6365116
wonder how much they are getting paid to post these indian-styled writings, they type the same as how bots do on elon musks posts on twitter where they suck him off

>> No.6365123

>>6365109
I'd rather choose the gun than fist fight in a war. If you like that analogy.
Ai is just a tool there's no need to seethe at the ai's work. Just prompt, it's much easier. And soon we'll be calling artists editors. It's just a changing hobby, bro.

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>>6365123
Thank you, I'm comfortable being an artist, you and the other failures can go and call yourselves editors or some other feel good word if it makes you feel better

>> No.6365135

>>6365123
It's kinda crazy how every shitskin holds into these style of belief's
It's as if they all are traumatized from hearing that people can make moolah out of something like sculptures because it's illegal at their own countries for " Idolatry "

>> No.6365137

>>6365123
If AI was a gun, it would be a Liberator. Mass produced and useless.

>> No.6365138

>>6365116
Much better than luddite circlejerking to be honest.

>>6365101
Probably because you didn't merge or change data models for what you were going for. Configure the program settings. Some models even require specific settings as that is what it was trained on. Some even need the right prompts in the right order, with the right emphasis or deemphasis. The standard model alone won't get you what they get even with the same prompts.

>> No.6365141

>>6365137
And if artists were a gun, they'd be a flintlock. Ineffective, slow to make, and expensive.

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>>6365104
>I've seen it used in a popular fighting manga, I've been seen get millions of likes on tik tok (animation especially), and there's even ai art exhibitions irl with the usual laundering of money. All of that just yesterday. I'm not worried at all about the how ai will turn out over time. Since of course, ai art generation isn't the one running out of time. Traditional artists are the ones running out of time before they really start fading.
Your post reeks of curly shit and lies as usual pajeet, typical.

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>>6365135
Fitting for some liberal commie to hate supply&demand.

>>6365142
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-2448500-elephant-in-the-room-at-a-san-francisco-ai-art-exhibit/ar-AA13H0f9

Cope.

>> No.6365151

it feels kinda good to be a tradchad in these trying times...

>> No.6365156

I don't really care about this whole goyslop generated thing but it's hilarious how just in the span of 2 months the image goyslop shills have gave themselves an image to the public as unlikable smug assholes that harrass people and steal their genshit doodles to the point anyone who even had an slight interest in touching those picture generators wouldn't like to be associated with them (like how NFT sellers have a similar stigma around them)

>> No.6365164

>>6365141
At least they look good.

>> No.6365165

>>6365150
That flower looks completely out of place. And it was pretty much photobashed together from random stuff so it almost doesn't even count as AI art.

>> No.6365169

lol, lmao even

>> No.6365172

>>6365150
Photobashing with AI art to get some background stuff I fully respect and if it was the main reach of this softwere, I wouldnt care, but soon it will start making all the characters in those poses, all the landscapes, and even the story itself. As long as there are skilled prompters still required for the future, and the AI wont do 99% of the work including coming up with all the ideas and design choices, I will not care.

>> No.6365179

it's almost as if every digital artists style is so boring and formulaic that its EASILY created by mindless AI or something. huh.

>> No.6365202

>>6365156
Many of them making no secret that their negative feelings are predicated on jealousy towards artists for having the balls to work at something/make money at it. They want desperately for someone working a more fulfilling job to lose it. No better than any garden variety cancel culture NPC.

>> No.6365203

>>6365179
AI can easily emulate any kind of style. A few days after Kim Jung Gi passed away there were already a model based in his style.

>> No.6365204

>>6365104
>>6365109

Nobody that speaks negatively about the ego should be taken into account.

The need for self-respect is not something to be attacked unless you dont any values.

>> No.6365208

>>6365203
That no one is actually using because it looks like dogshit and captures none of the nuance of his style's line economy. It looks like the filter they run photos through to make Tom Goes to the Mayor cartoons. This is just in addition to the raw economy behind art; you're shilling a bootleg machine. No one cares about replicas but poorfags with zero taste; we still make money and you have to set your alarm for wagie work :)

>> No.6365239

>>6365208
I'm against AI for art, but if you think it can replicate digital artists styles because they are inferior, you're wrong, the AI only sees pixels, it doesn't know it is doing, with enough trained data, painting like Sargent is basically the same as painting like some generic anime tiddy artist.

>> No.6365267

I'm beg with aphantasia
SD actually motivates me to keep going on, as i still have ideas, even if i can't picture them clear enough, to draw/concept it myself

>> No.6365270

I'm-ACK

>> No.6365295

>>6365267
Use AI for concept phase and planning stuff, like generating thumbnails would be the ideal. Too bad most of the so called "AI artists" will try to straight sell their generated art as the final product, ignoring the part where you actually do art, letting the program do it for them.

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AI

>> No.6365558

>>6365267
>I am deformed and crippled, I am happy I am riding an automatic car and I car run over who can actually run, since I have eyes to see the shit I am doing.

>> No.6366855

>>6353917
Chinese have average IQ of 106 and are heavily influenced by Confucianism. In the west people don't care about the well being of their community, they just want to get from point A to B.