/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6338629]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6307285

[Anonymous No.6338868]

>>6338629
nice breakdowns

[Anonymous No.6339270]

Having fun this inktober

[Anonymous No.6339322]

Watercolor pencils on 180gsm paper
Could be better but anymord layer will destroy the paper.

[Anonymous No.6339418]

>>6339322
180gsm is shit, buy 220-300

[Anonymous No.6339455]

>>6339418
I'm a poor fag

[Anonymous No.6339494]

A study from some of Watanabe Akio-san works.

[Anonymous No.6339590]

>>6339494
>>6339270
Great stuff

[Anonymous No.6339757]

>>6338629
I don't know how to make my studies look anything close to the original image. I feel like I'm not learning anything and it's showing. I don't have any work to show because I deleted it all out of frustration, I'm just venting now. I always somehow manage to draw the angles or rotation of the figures completely differently. Either I'm completely misinterpreting what I'm looking at or am just awful at translation what I'm looking at to my side of the canvas. I'm really impressed with the study at the bottom of this image, I couldn't get that sort of 1:1 replication to save my life. Granted, I'm still a beginner and am lacking in understanding of a few fundamentals, but still.

I'll give it another try later once I'm calmed down, but fuck

[Anonymous No.6339762]

I'm finding my work turns out better when I trace, so I'm going to trace from now on. I would go back and traceover my old work with construction and the results are good but then I start from scratch and don't know my head from my tail.

[Anonymous No.6339763]

>>6339757
If you feel stuck, learn some fundies. Not necessary every pack of muscle but shape, proportion, perspective. You will slow down a little but it better than being stuck.

[Anonymous No.6339766]

>>6339762
>my work
its not your work if you trace

[Anonymous No.6339771]

>>6339766
I pose the models then inject my dominance of knowledge. My work.

[Anonymous No.6339788]

>>6339590
Thank you. These are other studies I did.
>>6339774
Sorry for not meeting your expectations.

[Anonymous No.6339873]

>>6339788
that wasn't me, I was merely retagging the posters because anon deleted it right after

[Anonymous No.6339878]

>>6339873
probably a mod lol idk

[Anonymous No.6339894]

How are you using ai everyone needs to use it now

[Anonymous No.6339995]

saw this on /a/ while searching for ishida's brush
might be useful for you anons

[Anonymous No.6340016]

>>6339995
seems like there's some contradictory statements there

[Anonymous No.6340035]

>>6339894
The only two things i've seen people use the AI for is the "Crying cake girl" meme and the "Fluffy Gundam" meme...

[Anonymous No.6340036]

>>6340016
i know but hey he did rec some books
also pic rel is the brush settings of someone who's trying to replicate his style

[Anonymous No.6340115]

>>6339757
Try to copy something simple for a time. Don’t forget to draw what you’ve studied from memory later - that is the way to memorise things faster.

[Anonymous No.6340419]

mob psycho study

[Anonymous No.6340624]

>>6340419
>>6339788
>>6339494
>>6339322
I love how majority of these studies are done traditionally, no issue with digital art but I always believed Traditional provided great discipline you can't necessarily get off digital. Helps you learn faster.

[Anonymous No.6340626]

>>6340624
Not him, but I'm just poor.

[Anonymous No.6340674]

>decided to study a picture a cloth
Why did I do this?

[Anonymous No.6340850]

This has to be the worst general in /ic/ besides the AI one
Tracing, copying without fundies, bitchiness. OP's "must read" is a permabeg samefagging and larping as if he could give advice
Just terrible

[Anonymous No.6340858]

>>6340850
dumb nodraw

[Anonymous No.6340887]

>>6340850
pyw

[Anonymous No.6340894]

Hey guys, I've been trying to find settings that I like with clip studio paint for manga look for a while and I just can't get it to fucking feel right. My digital art looks way worse than anything I do traditionally but it's pretty inconvenient for me to draw comics on traditional paper because I don't have the space.

Can you guys show me what settings you all use for digital stuff, I can't get the brush to feel like trad for me.

[Anonymous No.6340908]

>>6340850
useless post

[Anonymous No.6340917]

>>6340894
Most artist use Gpen or mechanical with 80% opacity for line art. Try adjust pressure to your liking.

[Anonymous No.6340937]

>>6340917
I can't seem to get the pressure rightl. In keep getting that shoe lacing effect where it tapers off too dramatically at the end.

[Anonymous No.6341060]

>>6340850
they hated him because he told the truth

[Anonymous No.6341097]

>>6340850

[Anonymous No.6341115]

>>6340624
agree, with digital you have many tools like transformation and the undo button, but with traditional way you actually need to erase what you draw and try many times until it feels right.

[Anonymous No.6341168]

>>6340850

[Anonymous No.6341202]

finished some poses muh OC

[Anonymous No.6341213]

>>6341209
It's impressive, but animation is all about consistency and expression of movement. The problem with this is that it's too jerky and the character morphs around too much. I'd genuinely love to see it tackle animation well because that would mean better anime much quicker, but I don't think that will happen any timer soon.

[Anonymous No.6341268]

Are there any japanese/english translations for default or common brushes for csp?

[Anonymous No.6341314]

>>6341209
Literally everyone outsources inbetweens

[Anonymous No.6341440]

The study of this day, still suck but never give up, if have advice pls tell me.

[Anonymous No.6341443]

>>6341209
>he thinks this looks good

[Anonymous No.6341470]

>>6341440
Don't flatten the face

[Anonymous No.6341559]

>>6341470
nta but that’s useless critique if you don’t explain anything

[Anonymous No.6341593]

>>6341440
you've deconstructed it kinda ok, but when reconstructing it you've forgotten about all the shapes.
You've defaulted to the "make everything the same size" and now everything looks pretty wide

[Anonymous No.6341779]

Study

[Anonymous No.6341782]

>>6341779

[Anonymous No.6341805]

>>6340850
You can't just go and say the truh

[Anonymous No.6341817]

>>6341779
>>6341782
>>6341440

[Anonymous No.6341826]

>>6339757
have you watched krenz? he has 2 translated lectures now which explain how to study from references. both lectures cover the same topic but provide additional info.
>old one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw&ab_channel=Krenz%27sArtwork
>new one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgjx6y6B_G8&ab_channel=Krenz%27sArtwork
in the old one he shows techniques on how to study references: find and simplify shapes, find and draw guidelines, use grids and axis, tackle perspective in great detail.
the new one he glosses over some of the techniques taught in the old one and focuses on how to study references properly, find and simplify shapes, how to draw in perspective from refs and how to analyze references.

both lectures really helped me. now i can draw some disney cartoon tier stuff pretty accurately and some small errors made in proportions, but comparing with how i used to draw the difference is massive.

seriously check both vids out.

[Anonymous No.6341840]

>>6341839
retarded /nodraw/

[Anonymous No.6341843]

>>6340850
based

[Anonymous No.6341848]

>>6341826
here are 2 of my studies i did while watching his lectures. both took roughly a hour or less.
first version of each drawing was done with ref and second ver from memory. its a study method krenz suggested because it increases one's visual library.

sry about the shit lighting, the lightbulb in my room went out a few days ago and i haven't gotten a new one.

[Anonymous No.6341902]

>>6340850
I don't even understand what you wrote

[Anonymous No.6341908]

Anime girls are actually really easy to draw by eyeballing poses as reference. Now what I want is to reach the level of Yoh Yoshinari or Imaishi who can shit out entire animation reels in a matter of minutes from memory.

[Anonymous No.6341924]

>>6341908
pyw

[Anonymous No.6342013]

>>6341440
>Anime style
>Thick-ass lines
When will you fuckers ever learn

[Anonymous No.6342306]

Yesterday I made a traditional draw of the above picture (right is the draw on paper), and today I tried to make same pose with just my memorie and no refences (botton).

[Anonymous No.6342335]

>>6341202
Looks cool

[Anonymous No.6342376]

>>6342306
mean to say from memory and no references

[Anonymous No.6342878]

paw

[Anonymous No.6343046]

I got banned on 2ch. Can’t post there anymore.

[Anonymous No.6343236]

>>6343046
Come back asap Zeleboba, we'll miss u.

[Anonymous No.6343308]

>>6342306
good stuff, do more

[Anonymous No.6343434]

>>6343046
Is /pa/ still alive? I was sure only /b/ was somewhat active when I left few years ago

[Anonymous No.6343502]

>>6343434
Anime thread is dead, only porn- and beg- are showing some signs of life.

[Anonymous No.6343592]

>>6343434
Still alive and stinks more than ever. Lots of new faces, trolls are thriving even though new discord server sucked out 90% of the artists recently.

[Anonymous No.6343923]

>>6338629
>Why You Should Copy Anime
I almost never see anyone copy anime in /asg/ though? This is a copy of anime.
>>6341440
I guess there is this guy. You shouldn't even be trying to ape that level of construction yet, just focus on drawing the simple shapes that make up whatever it is you're looking at. An anime head is a circle sitting on a triangle or a pentagon. Eyes and ears go at the middle of a level head; eyes move down the circle/sphere if the head tilts down and the ears will appear to be higher than the eyes. If you look at yours next to the original head, you actually lowered the height of the skull to keep the eyes in the middle, but they have to move down because she is looking down—the head stays the same size

[Anonymous No.6344140]

rough

[Anonymous No.6344141]

>>6340850
I agree the must read list is not very convincing, but the Krenz videos dit it to me.

[Anonymous No.6344892]

>>6343923
There have been multiple copies posted in this thread alone.

[Anonymous No.6344905]

>>6344892
Was mainly looking at the OP, which appears to be mostly touhou fan art and some gacha character's ass.

[Anonymous No.6344916]

>>6338629
how do I get out of a rut
>inb4 just do it

[Anonymous No.6344918]

>>6343923
I think to study anime style, it is better learning from manga than from anime or illustration.

[Anonymous No.6345002]

Copied from a yuri manga I binge read until 6am
I love how much they can express with so few lines, I save any pages I find interesting while reading

[Anonymous No.6345016]

I fundamentally don't understand how to study and improve at rendering. My linework is good but my colouring is so far behind it's feeling hopeless.

[Anonymous No.6345063]

>>6345002
Trying to steal some of their cute power

[Anonymous No.6345069]

>>6345016
I really like this book, all other books are too high level and theoretical, this one is quick and dirty and gets you rendering right away. you can read "Color and Light" after
https://mega.nz/file/9TB3HLRA#X4SY-W2QLtWhG5SwikfUUtEy_VUqOnPoI2XBh5CZ1Yw

[Anonymous No.6345084]

>>6341202
damn

[Anonymous No.6345136]

>>6340850
>I'm going to whine about le board culture while contributing nothing of value
You will never be a janny or a woman

[Anonymous No.6345292]

>>6345069
Thank you anon I will give it a shot!

[Anonymous No.6345363]

>>6342013
kys

[Anonymous No.6345397]

anon brother, how many time u spend copyng? i spend like 3 hrs T.T and my copy is not 100% accurate

[Anonymous No.6345407]

[Anonymous No.6345597]

>>6345363
Kui is a tumblrtard though

[Anonymous No.6345639]

I don't know what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.6345655]

if I wanted to draw a girl with an anime face, would I use a real persons face as a reference or should I actually look up an anime and use that as a reference

[Anonymous No.6345713]

>>6345639
i don't know what you're doing, explain

[Anonymous No.6345729]

>>6345655
both, either, you can use a japanese girls face which is what anime is based on, or a standardized anime girl

[Anonymous No.6345750]

hey everyone is there any shortcut to show all hidden drop down in chrome, i was trying to read krenz course in notion

[Anonymous No.6345899]

>>6345750
there are no shortcuts

[Anonymous No.6345940]

>>6341202
Can you please tell me how you do your shading?

[Anonymous No.6346042]

Would you say it's better for a beginner to copy manga (since always black and white and relies more on the linework) rather than complete/fully shaded artworks from online artists?

[Anonymous No.6346065]

>>6345750
> document.querySelectorAll('.notion-focusable').forEach(function(button) {button.click()});

They'll redirect you to the login page, just go back to the page you were on and everything will be expanded.

[Anonymous No.6346085]

>>6345729
Anime is based off of white children’s faces.

[Anonymous No.6346251]

>>6346085
Which you will never have

[Anonymous No.6346297]

>>6345750
ctrl+alt+t to expand all in notion

[Anonymous No.6346379]

>>6346297
thank you!

[Anonymous No.6346454]

studies

[Anonymous No.6346458]

>>6346454
Toshi?

[Anonymous No.6346466]

>>6346458
yep

[Anonymous No.6346476]

>>6346466
Nice, after doing his stuff my lines feel so much more expressive
I love how minimal his set up is, like minimum construction to get what you need

[Anonymous No.6346494]

>>6346476
thanks
and yeah those drawings are simple yet expressive

[Anonymous No.6346568]

>>6346454

[Anonymous No.6346738]

The study of the day

[Anonymous No.6346743]

>>6345069
Amazing thx for sharing

[Anonymous No.6346749]

>>6346568
Nice way of lighting, like some anime concept art

[Anonymous No.6346754]

Could’ve been more accurate for sure

[Anonymous No.6346833]

>>6346754
what is your process when doing stuff like that if you don't mind sharing? do you break down the reference using construction?

[Anonymous No.6346840]

>>6346833
I don’t mind sharing this video from Krenz 1000 times if needed
https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw
A follow up was also translated recently.

The focus of this study is shapes composition, not construction.

[Anonymous No.6347282]

I’m still struggling with eyes from an angle, I don’t think straight ahead is too difficult, but angles always seem to give me the most trouble.

[Anonymous No.6347539]

>>6346754
anon...

[Anonymous No.6347608]

I have been working on some kind of Mona with a halloween team for the past 3 days, I have copy a pose I created on Koikatsu, this time I tried to do it with my table display off and only using the monitor of my pc and I feel I had a better understending of what I was drawing as well as a better control of my pen, the only issue is that I started to feel pain on my back near my neck after drawing for a few hours, I guess I need to get use to it since I like drawing with the display off now. Sorry for the blogposting.

[Anonymous No.6348089]

3/4 of the sketches I did today. First one (left) was no timer, so the time is probably off by up to 5~ minutes. And the right one I used reference.

[Anonymous No.6349097]

Bump, thread almost die

[Anonymous No.6349258]

Left to right:
Ref, study, drawing from memory at the next day.
A hour each.

[Anonymous No.6349260]

>>6349258
Would you mind sharing the artist you referenced? I'd like to study them as well.

[Anonymous No.6349263]

>>6349260
Here, friend:
https://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=azuki_%28azuki-taste%29

[Anonymous No.6349270]

>>6349263
Thanks much Anon. I enjoy how loosely they paint

[Anonymous No.6349294]

Studio Trigger perfected anime.

[Anonymous No.6349509]

>>6345002
which manga?

[Anonymous No.6349993]

>>6349509
Watashi no Yuri wa Oshigoto desu!

[Anonymous No.6350280]

>>6346042

According to Krenz as a beginner its best to focus on the line work and shape composition before going into rendering. He ranks the difficulty of studies by three levels:

1) western cartoon/stylization - They are composed using simple shapes and little to no complicated contours are involved in the process of making them. They will help you grind shapes while training memory recall at the same time.

2) Anime/manga stylization - The reason being it is close to realism in style and the outer contours may be a bit above one's level on average.

3) realistic - These contain the most complex lines and shape composition according to Krenz.

Finally, he recommends starting out with western art studies, then little by little warming yourself up to anime/manga studies, and once your comfy anime/manga will be your norm then you can challenge yourself with realistic studies.

Source: https://youtu.be/dgjx6y6B_G8

[Anonymous No.6350583]

What settings do people generally use for drawing anime stuff digitally? Like, canvas size and brush size. I've only ever drawn traditionally.

[Anonymous No.6350602]

>>6350583
There's no specific number, but as a rule of thumb you want to draw much larger than the size you post, to minimise imperfections. Even traditional comics work the same way.
Some people draw on a retardedly large canvas, and that's usually to ensure very thin and smooth lineart, and it's better for zooming in very closely for details without things becoming a pixelised mess. Sometimes artists either forget to resize or don't care enough to do it, and you can check the Danbooru absurdres tag for some examples of that if you're interested.
I personally use 2k pixels minimum because I don't zoom in a lot, but it's definitely on the small side for this stuff and even then I always enlarge the sketch if I decide to polish it. Other Anons probably work much bigger from the start.

[Anonymous No.6350742]

Bump. 3rd post in this thread.

[Anonymous No.6350872]

>>6349993
>>6349509
Careful, it's pretty depressing despite how cute it looks
Current arc is shaping up to be full of broken hearts too

[Anonymous No.6350985]

>>6349258
this is the biggest problem with copying, what did learn here? not much desu, if you copy the image enough times you might get something similar to the ref, and if you go full autismt, you might get something really close, but then again is just a copy, can you draw that picture from a different angle/pose/source of light or different charcater, not really, so you learn basically nothing. you should learn how to create and understand that picture from zero rather than just copying the final product.

[Anonymous No.6350991]

i know it's probably in the op but just tell me one single point to start, i can't even copy properly

[Anonymous No.6351004]

How the fuck do people draw from memory
I can barely do it with references

[Anonymous No.6351024]

>>6351004
learn your fundies

[Anonymous No.6351028]

>>6351024
You mean drawing a cube a gorillion times? I can already do that

[Anonymous No.6351030]

>>6350991
https://www.dorian-iten.com/howtodraw/
Maybe watch someone do a Bargue Plate on YouTube before doing it yourself. Then just apply those things to anime drawings you like.
Not every study is a full autism accuracy exercise like copies are, and they achieve different goals, but this is for training your eye. It's very important for a beginner.

[Anonymous No.6351034]

>>6351028
>>6351028
>I can already do that
doubt it, and fundies is not just drawing balls/boxes

[Anonymous No.6351072]

today's study, references only for Ilulu´s hair, claws and tail, rest of the body is from imagination

[Anonymous No.6351315]

My attempt at drawing with brush only, no reference, no sketch, only from memory.

[Anonymous No.6351366]

Doing a bit of studying, I got stuck on the greyscale to colour, but I hope I'll get there eventually!

[Anonymous No.6351391]

I think I'm having trouble with the hair at this angle

[Anonymous No.6351498]

>>6351391
you need to economize your lines in your hair, also it needs more volume and is too stiff too.

[Anonymous No.6351505]

>>6351391
Don't listen to this >>6351498 , your art have more soul lol

[Anonymous No.6351634]

>>6351366
i thought this was riamu

[Anonymous No.6351636]

>>6351030
post your work

[Anonymous No.6351646]

>>6351636
Thst is a legit training. At least train to get the shape and proportion right.
Thevpeople who told you to just copy anime are Asian who had 5+ years of studying fundies through various courses in their childhood.

[Anonymous No.6351804]

is it possible to change the pressure setting for only one brush in csp?
the rest is fine, it's just a pen that I need to push harder than usual

[Anonymous No.6351824]

>>6351646
Anything without work or evidence posted is instantly dismissed.

[Anonymous No.6351849]

>>6351804
yes, go into the brush settings

[Anonymous No.6351855]

>>6351824

[Anonymous No.6351893]

>>6351636
I just showed the way you copy things accurately, that envelope method is the exact same thing Krenz describes except in nice plain English instead of a longass Chinese video. The way I phrased it sounded a bit like I told him to copy Bargue plates himself, but that's just bad wording. Not that he absolutely shouldn't, anything helps as long as you're training accuracy. But that's also the reason you might as well go with cartoon drawings you're interested in instead of plaster cast drawings.
Like I said, doing accurate copies to train your eye is only one way of studying stylised pictures. A Master Study and a Master Copy are different things.
But copies are definitely the most straightforward for a beginner, since you don't need a sense of form to just place lines where you know they're supposed to go.
On top of that, the careful observation of good drawings that comes from those exercises can do more for developing a sense for how to express volume on a flat surface than all the aimless box grinding in the world. And the better you understand that, the more fruitful those exercises become and the more you're able to get even from a looser study that doesn't follow all that enveloping and plumb line business.

[Anonymous No.6352101]

Starting a new thing that will be promptly ignored
Using a different book this time that starts coloring during the sketch for some reason, even though he discards it later anyways

[Anonymous No.6352120]

>>6345597
meh general anime art is overrated.
If you ain't specializing in some way it looks like generic stuff everyone has seen before.

[Anonymous No.6352432]

Does anyone have an image or a JP book that contains animu proportions?

[Anonymous No.6352468]

>>6352432
Sketching Manga Style, Logical Proportions:
https://mega.nz/file/n2IFBSpJ#1mgTteVb47HRlzWr7OXYNAGvsX2WQA2iRHS70xAr1zc
The 2000's look probably isn't to everyone's tastes, but the information stays relevant and it shows some good ways to think about stylising proportions while remaining appealing.
I usually keep this page from Hitokaku in mind, with the figure generally being half torso, half legs, or with the legs a bit longer if you want a "cool" or stylish impression.

[Anonymous No.6352564]

ahh I can't draw convincing hair no matter how much I try to. do I have to learn drapery?

[Anonymous No.6352567]

>>6352564
I found this which was pretty cool. A big aha moment for me was when I realized that hair is 3D and there is hair behind the hair

https://twitter.com/ichiup_net/status/1586298807347810304?s=20&t=c5w21bjS9EgT0IVIUcNZHw

[Anonymous No.6352607]

How do I start to learn to draw/paint backgrounds? I'm starting to feel sad just drawing cute girls floating in a void, but I don't know where to start.

[Anonymous No.6352629]

>>6352607
Start by adding objects, such as toilets, to paintings of anime girls floating in voids. This has the additional benefit of preventing AI from redeem the image.

[Anonymous No.6352642]

What is the ideal head size to body ratio for anime? I notice the head height for some anime girl torsos is 3 heads, but then others it is a little more like 2 heads and a bit. (Note: I am only talking of torso length, from top of neck to crotch.) I feel like anytime I do the 2 heads torso length, they look like weird bobbleheads in a way anime girls don’t, but then the 3 head torsos look too “realistic body with anime face pasted on” for my tastes.
Pic slightly unrelated. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.6352941]

>>6345639
>bottom right
kek. /qa/ lost

[Anonymous No.6352948]

the try of the day

[Anonymous No.6352987]

I can't help but feel like I'm cheating by using custom brushes. I feel like I have to put in the work to understand how the brush was made so I can recreate it myself before I feel justified in using it. The custom brushes completely blow my own noob attempts out of the water and I feel like I can achieve far more than I'm supposed to at my current level. Is this a normal feeling or am I being autistic?

[Anonymous No.6353137]

>>6352987
It's a little autistic but also a legitimate concern. I think you should make your own custom brushes.

[Anonymous No.6353196]

>>6352987
I would say try to manually get a cloud as good as that you'd make with the brush, from then on just use the brush

[Anonymous No.6353340]

What do you think

[Anonymous No.6353403]

[Is there a collection of Trigger/Yoshinari art somewhere? I'm looking to improve my art at this moment. In return i will draw you something.]

[Anonymous No.6353407]

>>6352642
6.5 to 7 heads for girls 8 heads for men, 5 head for cunny.

[Anonymous No.6353418]

>>6352987
It feel soulless when it wasn't made by yourself even it was fine to use. I rather spend 30 mins to paint those chains in my hentai than use a custom brush in 10 second.

[Anonymous No.6353421]

>>6353340
Look Western to me, line art is stiff, use smaller brush and consider gravity when draw hair or eyelashes. For body it look good

[Anonymous No.6353423]

>>6347608
sexy linework but the stripes on the pantyhose are on a wrong perspective and it's breaking the foreshortening of the legs

[Anonymous No.6353469]

Ref - - Study - - Recalling from memory

[Anonymous No.6353491]

>>6353423
you are right, I missed that, thanks for letting me know.

[Anonymous No.6353543]

Can't find lsg so i'll post here

[Anonymous No.6353813]

studies

[Anonymous No.6353817]

>sketching with pen to learn to be thoughtful about line placement
Is this legit or a meme? It's pretty annoying and I don't feel like I'm learning anything, if anything it's making me more nervous which results in shittier lines

[Anonymous No.6353823]

can I trace to start

[Anonymous No.6353879]

>>6353823
It can be useful for a complete beginner to develop motor control skills, but can easily become a crutch you rely too much on. After a week or two you should drop it. Afterwards, you can use it to diagnose problems after giving it your best try without tracing, or when studying on top of a photo or artwork for an anatomy/perspective/compositional etc. study.

[Anonymous No.6353939]

Painted the best girl in Guilty gear

[Anonymous No.6353998]

>>6353939
How do I into water? I can't draw backgrounds for shit, it took me hours to figure out how to paint a cloud.

[Anonymous No.6354021]

>>6345407
Who did these?

[Anonymous No.6354054]

[Anonymous No.6354088]

>>6354054
If you feel the need to point out the features of your character chances are it isn't designed well

[Anonymous No.6354098]

>>6350583
Seconding this. Someone please give me your brush and canvas size. How many brushes should I use during a drawing? Am I supposed to change brush sizes during a drawing? Should I have pressure sensitivity or not when doing linework? No matter how much I fiddle with the default brushes I never feel satisfied.

[Anonymous No.6354111]

>>6354098
USE CHARCOOL BRUSH

[Anonymous No.6354127]

Is there a discord?

[Anonymous No.6354157]

>>6354127
fuck off

[Anonymous No.6354652]

am i doing it right

[Anonymous No.6354681]

>>6354652
no, dont copy what you see, copy what you feel, you have to feel the flow

[Anonymous No.6354702]

>>6354098
Somewhere within 4000 x 4000 res, 300dpi, 15-40 brush size. You can define line weight without changing brush size but as there are keyboard shortcuts to change the size no reason not to

[Anonymous No.6355118]

>>6353403
check ehentai most of its on there

trigger in general:
https://e-hentai.org/tag/artist:trigger
(atmosphere)
https://e-hentai.org/?f_search=group%3Aatmosphere%24+-yuugo+-chinese
DITF
https://e-hentai.org/g/1478505/8394f2e9ce/
yoshi stuff specifically
https://e-hentai.org/tag/artist:yoshinari+you

[Anonymous No.6355483]

>>6344140
sex

[Anonymous No.6356001]

>>6350742
finally good shit

[Anonymous No.6356031]

3.5 hour study

[Anonymous No.6356035]

>>6356031
I like your colors more than the original!

[Anonymous No.6356039]

>>6356031
From memory.
Feels bad when you realise that knowledge you get from a study will mostly disappear without recalling.

[Anonymous No.6357440]

Just wanted to post this, for once I'm quite happy with how the shading went

[Anonymous No.6357453]

>>6357440
Shading and line art look very good.

[Anonymous No.6357464]

>>6356031
I actually have entire process video for this one. It took him a bit less than 4 hours from the sketch

[Anonymous No.6357500]

>>6357440
>7
wrist is too thinn

[Anonymous No.6357562]

>>6357500
Limp wrist is the epitopme of feminine. It's desired by both men and women. For men, they fantasize about that they will hold that small hand completeky in their big strong hand, put a ring on it and protect their love for life.
For women, they fantansize being assault by a 2m tall man, with his big strong, he completely warp both of her wrist while the other hand play with her body. His middle finger which bigger than any beta males she slept with before assault her womb and she can feel his dirty fingernail tearing it. After the intense foreplay, he brought out his penis which bigger than her wrist and thrust it in her cunt menacing. She can't do anything but give in to her guilty pleasure.
This is about the soul of art, the thought of artists transcend to the viewers, it make blush yet admire there are another human in this world understand their purest or darkest desire.

[Anonymous No.6357587]

>>6357562
too much text, you need to know the rules to break them, the forearm bones are connected too close to the index finger, she can't use her pinkie and ring finger nothing to do with style

[Anonymous No.6357652]

What's the secret to get better at anime proportions?

[Anonymous No.6357668]

>>6357652
make a collage of characters with proportions you like and keep them next to your workspace

[Anonymous No.6357678]

>>6357652
Use Asian girls as references

[Anonymous No.6357701]

>>6357652
copy other artists proportions

[Anonymous No.6357946]

Is it worth buying a membership for his longer drawing classes to learn his process?

[Anonymous No.6357959]

>>6357946
Sure, why not? Even a shoeless third worlder like me can at least pay 2 months to support my favorite artist and learn something.

[Anonymous No.6357965]

>>6357959
Sounds good, guess I will try joining membership when I have a couple of months relatively free.

[Anonymous No.6357989]

>>6351391
Finished

[Anonymous No.6358048]

>>6357989
Soul. I love it

[Anonymous No.6358149]

>>6354652
That aint bad construction.

[Anonymous No.6358150]

>>6353939
this is solid commission level work
good work, anon

[Anonymous No.6358667]

Anons, how do you stay motivated to practice knowing how far AI generated "art" has come? Even Pixiv is full of AI "art" now, I can't help feeling I'm being replaced.

[Anonymous No.6358728]

>>6358667
do it because you want to see your personal vision out there. there was already artists better than you out there, this is no different except now instead of someone actually skilled you have some lazy fuck with no skills. you really gonna let someone like that stop you from pursuing your passion?

[Anonymous No.6358731]

>>6358667
As someone who follows alot of AI "aritist" & real artists, you can tell when it's done by an AI prompter.

[Anonymous No.6358769]

>>6358667
Well just make sure you can start from scratch and finish a fully rendered image with background and clothing, within just 5 seconds.
Species that can't compete, go extinct.
:)

[Anonymous No.6358993]

>>6339322
Is that a study? If yes, can you post the ref please?
Good job either way.

[Anonymous No.6359004]

What are your routines bros? In particular I want to know how people who spend 5 hours drawing find things to draw for so long

[Anonymous No.6359007]

>>6357500
Its a nice ass but its too smooth it should be flattened against the surface a little bit to convey the jigglability

[Anonymous No.6359015]

>>6358667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Fzqvx1jxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w43_WxH3tU
I don't know about these artists but I appreciated listening to these videos (although the second one could've been more concise). If you're feeling down due to AI and what the art scene is like, I find it refreshing to listen to what other artists have to say about AI to broaden your perspectives and get in touch with what got you here in the first place.
You can listen in 2x as you sketch or something.

>Even Pixiv is full of AI "art" now [...]
I'm bothered too honestly. I've been browsing pixiv over a decade and it's an eyesore to see that crap in the ranking, but at the same time these stuff really are of no value 99% of the time (and the 1% I speak of is really just ecchi stuff that somehow turned ok, nothing truly original).

To answer the question, my view is that every artist is unique. Even an asian artist who tries their hardest at imittating some other famous asian/pixiv artist won't become them, they'll still be their own iteration with their own unique artstyle. So AI or not, in the end the only thing you can do is becoming the best version of yourself, which AI will never be able to do.
... well until they steal your art, but we're entering another topic here that pertains to legality, ethics, etc.

[Anonymous No.6359038]

>>6359015
Give it time lol. Years ago arrists also angry because Honey Select and mmd fags spam. In the end they got bored because they earn nothing but hate, thecfew survivor developed writing skill and became amateur writer.
Aside from the kikes who want to ruin art for real, most AI spam are from lazy faggots who think art is easy money and want a piece of that cake. They will get bored or hace to develop real skill to survive. Pixiv was right when not banning AI, let them learn it themselves.

[Anonymous No.6359073]

>>6358150
Thanks. I made some tweaks to increase the detail and interest to the image.

[Anonymous No.6359135]

>>6338629
Recommend adding these ebooks too

https://files.catbox.moe/kp9w25.rar

[Anonymous No.6359193]

>>6354652
I gotta say, I REALLY like the way you constructed these bodies, can you gave us some tips, how about using this as an example, i am interested.

https://files.catbox.moe/xr8j74.jpg

[Anonymous No.6360151]

>>6358149
>>6359193
To be honest my construction is kind of a combination of a few different methods I've come across over the years. I go straight to contours in places like the legs, but need to block in the placement and orientation of the legs/elbows/ribcage... sorry, it's hard to explain as I tend to just eyeball things

picrel is another thing I did a while ago, using some anime figure as a ref.

[Anonymous No.6360238]

>>6360151
not bad i must say, did you get my ref and link, wanna see you try something with it, like how you drew hips and abdomen.

[Anonymous No.6360479]

How do I figure out which brushes to use to get different textures and effects? Is it really just trial and error or are there resources that teach this sort of stuff?

[Anonymous No.6360544]

>>6360479
if you know how to make brushes then just trial and error

[Anonymous No.6360756]

Some sketches of my OC, Long time no see /asg/.

[Anonymous No.6361051]

>>6358667
By not being a pinup "artist"

[Anonymous No.6361329]

Why is lineart so stupidly complex

[Anonymous No.6361385]

>>6361329
pyw

[Anonymous No.6361732]

>>6338629
Does anyone have something they think I should change in this?
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6361771]

when drawing anime girls should I use a real body photo as a reference or should I use actual anime for my reference?

[Anonymous No.6361795]

>>6361732

>>6361771
use anime drawings to learn a particular style, use references to study your fundies

[Anonymous No.6361821]

>>6361795
Thanks. I'll get to fixing it tomorrow, I can post another pic when I'm done with that.

[Anonymous No.6362035]

>>6360756
she's so cute...

[Anonymous No.6362262]

[Anonymous No.6363005]

is this the right way to do it?
https://files.catbox.moe/e0tlc2.mp4

[Anonymous No.6363030]

>>6361385

[Anonymous No.6363091]

>>6363005
Doing great! I'd say her face is a bit rounder than what you have but everything else is roughly correct. One thing to note is that the eyelashes are not drawn with one thick stroke, but with thin outlines to make the shape, and then filled in with a dark grey. If you keep this in mind and use a thinner brush, you'll do even better.

[Anonymous No.6363680]

>>6363005

Are there anymore videos like this? Didn't know you could copy past the landmark/grid

[Anonymous No.6363687]

>>6363680
I have more videos and stuff, I've posted them before
copy past or copy paste?

[Anonymous No.6363695]

>>6363005
What's the method here, it doesn't look like Krenz? If you block in larger shapes before going into details you shouldn't have to do as much re-adjusting.
>>6363680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBI220M6EMY

[Anonymous No.6363700]

>>6363695
>What's the method here?
idk I just copy
>block in shapes
>video
thanks, I'll do the block in thing

[Anonymous No.6363704]

>>6362035
thanks

[Anonymous No.6363721]

>>6363687

It looks like you copied over the red green and blue grid you made on the reference image over to the side you draw on. In my opinion that cheats you out of the goal of the study and messes up your proportions specifically on the body, the ears for the face... and the hair bead to the left.

[Anonymous No.6363747]

So, a friend commission me to draw a genderswap/rule 63'd version of Hyde Kido(Under night in-birth).
I often draw in a more realistic style, but I really liked how it turned out.

[Anonymous No.6363764]

>>6363747
ok

[Anonymous No.6363848]

>>6353939
Question, how much time did it take you to do the finished piece?

[Anonymous No.6363933]

>>6341202
This is sick! Since she has the crosses, I imagine her as fitting the Hellboy archetype - that is to say a demon but one who is repentant and very much a good-guy trying to make amends with God. Pic also related. I love this kind of archetype.

My headcanon aside, very cool art anon.

[Anonymous No.6363950]

>>6363747
gotcha

[Anonymous No.6363993]

>>6363764
>>6363950
What is the point of these posts?

[Anonymous No.6364156]

>>6363993
idk dude why would things have a meaning?
>>6363747
I have no idea what you're saying here, but personally I think its not enough "anime"

[Anonymous No.6365232]

>>6338629
>Japanese Book Collection:
>https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD
link is dead

[Anonymous No.6365251]

>do drawing exercise for the day
>comes out looking like a Deviantart masterpiece
>scrap the whole sheet of paper

[Anonymous No.6365760]

Ui, zombie Idol.

rough sketch, got lazy.

[Anonymous No.6365883]

>>6338629
How are you okay with copying? It's literrally just stealing and being a copycat.

[Anonymous No.6366018]

>>6365883
That's the best (and I believe the only) way to learn to draw.

[Anonymous No.6366064]

What are some good resources for drawing pin-ups? I have no shortage of info on anatomy and structure/character design, but when it comes to making interesting and compelling poses, I'm always scratching my head trying to make something that looks natural and interesting. So most of my drawings are of characters kinda just standing there.

[Anonymous No.6366085]

the link is dead ? i can't find the files

[Anonymous No.6366645]

I wish I had studied more traditional/digital art instead of spending all my time doing pixel art when I was younger
Now I have to spend hours of my time to just try and imitate the appearance of tradition/digital art and it still comes out looking souless.
I love the way mangaka like ogadenmon, bonnie, and Nora higuma draw their women. they look so soft and look like you could just sink into them. I have to do alot of annoying and tedious anti aliasing to replicate the softer gradients that come naturally to their medium.
Atleast it's got a cool distinct style.

[Anonymous No.6367006]

>>6339788
>>6346454
>>6351855
>>6353543
I like these, nice stuff anons

[Anonymous No.6367289]

Any artbook recommendations when starting to learn anime stuff?
I'd like to pick up one that tackles more general concepts instead of specific things like hair or clothing.

[Anonymous No.6367444]

Why is it always about the uwu and the ara ara~

When in reality it should be about the
GUTA LALA
SUDA LALA

[Anonymous No.6367498]

>>6357464
Can you share the video?

[Anonymous No.6367972]

>>6365760
looks more like she's just a cannival, but saying she is a zombie to avoid going to jail, instead being thrown into the
looney bin and having her brain shut down by powerful drugs, and on her short moments of conciousness exploding into a despair so terrifying that her screams make the people around her cry
I mean, looks like a fun drawing, neat
>>6367289
I dont remember the books names but once I get back to the computer I'll copy paste the names here

[Anonymous No.6368015]

The Japanese Book Collection mega link is dead.

[Anonymous No.6368373]

>>6363848
I've been getting better to making a thumbnail that I can actually stick to, but usually it takes me 4-10 hours for a piece depending on how many things I change.
>>6363933
Thank you, she's a girl who was raised by the Church to be their weapon against high level threats like (demons and dragons), but now serves a wandering prince who shows the true nature of the Church.
I'm making a character design portfolio with a theme that it's for a fictional fantasy gacha game where you play as a prince who gathers waifus and husbandos to help reclaim his throne stolen by his uncle.

[Anonymous No.6368575]

REALLY USEFUL VIDEO
https://youtu.be/LgpF_pRB42w

[Anonymous No.6369115]

>>6368575
damn it really is
also besides the belly, the way mignon uses layers is something so simple and so much better than using transparency masks
I'll be implementing this in all my drawings from now on, this will reduce my ram and disk usage maybe down to 25%
>>6367289
>Drawing Moe Basic and Advance Techniques
>(Date Naoto) Deconstruction Illustrated

[Anonymous No.6369116]

>>6368575
>>6369115
obvious paid shills.

[Anonymous No.6369121]

>>6369116
date naoto never paid me shit what are you talking about

[Anonymous No.6369196]

>>6367972
but all zombies are cannibals!
i like your lore lol

[Anonymous No.6369211]

Honest question, because I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, why are you guys' studies/copies so clean? Wouldn't it be better to do quick, dirty sketches that capture the form from eyeballing?
I have been doing rough copies to learn manga head shapes, not perfect but I could feel myself internalizing the shapes better than just trying to lay down the marks perfectly along rulers or dividers.

[Anonymous No.6369561]

>go to learn the proportions of an anime head/face
>they always have poofy hair that fucks up my ability to measure
anyone got any of them bald anime bitches i can study from??

[Anonymous No.6369571]

>>6369211
Because we… cleaned up the initial quick and dirty sketch into something presentable?

[Anonymous No.6369582]

Try drawing loli

[Anonymous No.6369594]

>>6359193
side note, am I a moron or is she about six heads tall? I'm not complaining, I just always wondered how head-measure proportion worked with anime because their heads are so big.

[Anonymous No.6369601]

>>6368575
this should just be called "learning to draw fucking anything in one day" holy fuck I love master copies

[Anonymous No.6369603]

>>6369594
I'd say 6.5 if she straightens out from the compressed pose.
But yeah looks like.

[Anonymous No.6369682]

>>6369571
Why though? In the time it takes you to clean up the lines you could have made one or two more copies instead. That's almost like inking, which is a boring task and is the necessary evil when doing complete works, it's my most hated step

[Anonymous No.6369754]

>>6369582
head and the neck is too big, make em smaller
and make the hips bigger

cute face tho anon

[Anonymous No.6369762]

>>6369754
Yeah, it feel work after an hour. I need to practice to draw kid proportion.

[Anonymous No.6370063]

25 min + 25 min

[Anonymous No.6370453]

>>6370063
Same time frame

[Anonymous No.6370497]

>>6368233
Maybe some people here are already aware but you should check the OP links in case you need anything before they get taken down just in case

[Anonymous No.6370557]

>>6368575
This faggot is click baiting for views so hard.
He traces the drawing and photos in the videos but doesn't tell you that in that in the thumbnail or beginning. He does this intentionally to make his thumbnails look like you can learn to draw like those artists in "one quick trick", all while using the artwork he knows is extremely popular to get idiots to click on it.
None of the concepts he explains in that video or the Raiden Shogun video are new or groundbreaking, it's literally just knowing how to use basic layer functions and boils down to "haha copy another artist like a monkey". For him these might be useful because he'll get the experience of what works in an illustration and trick people into following him. Doing the lineart and having the drawing not look retarded is literally like 80 percent of what makes anime art look good, so him tracing literally gives you nothing in terms of actual growth.
I'm actually tempted to make a rendering video since so many people usually ask me about this and I kinda want to call him out on this bullshit content

[Anonymous No.6370625]

>>6370557
>I'm actually tempted to make a rendering video since so many people usually ask me about this and I kinda want to call him out on this bullshit content
do it fgt I'd watch it

[Anonymous No.6370641]

>>6370557
stop being a faggot and do it then

[Anonymous No.6370646]

>>6370641
The reason why is video is successful because the maker of the channel has great ideas and strong thumbnails. I've always shyed away from Youtube because it's a lot of effort to make actually good content watchable even if you're an expert on the subject. I'll learn some basic editing and make one I guess.

[Anonymous No.6370783]

>>6369603
>>6369594
Whats wrong with that mate?

[Anonymous No.6370795]

>>6370557
Are you surprised that attention whore shitbags are disingenuous people? They are textbook definiton of shameless.

Stay away from yt tutos unless they are from nips.

[Anonymous No.6370917]

>>6370557
No. Fucking. Balls.

[Anonymous No.6370944]

>>6370783
Literally nothing, I even said I wasn't complaining, I was just checking to see if my assessment was correct

[Anonymous No.6371025]

>>6370944
Nice, thats a nice body tough, doesnt look thay hard to redline right?

[Anonymous No.6371231]

>>6368575
>>6369116
>>6369601
>>6370557
okay, I tried doing the thing in the mignon tutorial thing, things turned out close to okay I think
https://files.catbox.moe/b1h8ty.mp4
still I would say the most useful image in all of that https://files.catbox.moe/1co8np.jpg
I would like to blame proko for not explaining things well, but doing the walk is really helping me understand the belly
>>6370795
I'd say this one was useful because it was a video about a tutorial from a japanese artist, less trying to understand what the fuck was the meaning of everything, more time just practicing

[Anonymous No.6371268]

>>6338629
any other artists like toriyama who are good at using a variety of interesting shapes on simple designs? his work is just real fun to study.

[Anonymous No.6371322]

[Anonymous No.6371330]

>>6370063
I also tried this pic, but painting it took much longer for me

[Anonymous No.6371895]

I think I should leave coloring/shading be for now and focus more on just drawing stuff
maybe with greyscale

[Anonymous No.6371945]

>>6370063
>>6370453
Recalling next day

[Anonymous No.6372025]

>>6353998
draw a nice boat to redirect attention

[Anonymous No.6372045]

>>6353998
its your first time drawing a cloud or you have drawn them before?

[Anonymous No.6372059]

>>6371895
you need to add more red to the edge of those shadows dude, and you could add more depth to the eyes and hair, hair should have ambient light showing a little on the darker areas, also light reflected by the skin, darker areas because something is blocking the light, darker areas because the same hair is blocking the light
the lineart is very nice yes, whatever you do I think you are a few steps from a personal artistic breakthrough
also the armpit looks as if she got stabbed there back in 2010

[Anonymous No.6372333]

I've been told you guys got the Krenz translation stuff? Where can I find it?

[Anonymous No.6372395]

>>6338629
Any advice?

[Anonymous No.6372420]

>>6338629
Any critique?

[Anonymous No.6372451]

>>6372420
are you trying to replicate the pokemon style?

[Anonymous No.6372460]

>>6372451
Not really, just needs be recognizable that it's a character from Pokemon, why do you inquire?

[Anonymous No.6372734]

>>6372333
seconding this

[Anonymous No.6372737]

>>6372333
>>6372734
>https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

[Anonymous No.6372770]

>>6372737
thanks a lot
why isnt this on the recommended resources pastebin?

[Anonymous No.6372877]

any advice on what to do if you're just tired all week? i cant properly practice
if possible i would just sleep the whole day

[Anonymous No.6372882]

>>6372877
aderall with coffee

[Anonymous No.6372984]

>>6372877
check if youre deficient of anything
vitamin d deficiency is common with basement dwellers such as ourselves

[Anonymous No.6373126]

>>6372882
>>6372984
thanks, anons

[Anonymous No.6373300]

>>6363091
>>6363695
tried again following more the krenz idea
https://files.catbox.moe/rdi136.mp4

[Anonymous No.6373302]

>>6373300
more
https://files.catbox.moe/4t5qi9.mp4

[Anonymous No.6373369]

>>6373300
>>6373302
Post it again if you want.

New Thread:
>>6373366
>>6373366
>>6373366