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>AI art will never be real ar-
>ACK

>> No.6291703
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>>6291690
First thing, if you are against AI Art, STOP CALLING IT AI ART
Language is very important when it comes to shaping public perception. It's the entire reason newspeak and talking point jargon exists in media and politics.
AI is a term that implies cutting edge, sophistication, technology, things that wow normies.
Start calling it what it is: Artificial Art
Artificial has negative connotations. No one likes artificial stuff, especially in things like food. They want genuine. All on the subliminal level but if it didn't work you wouldn't see every news station start to use the same words over and over in unison when some politically charged story breaks.
So from this moment on, whenever you bring this up in casual conversation, use the correct term.

>> No.6291711

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they attack you. Then you win.

We are in stage 3.

>> No.6291721

>>6291711
who's attacking who in (your) analogy?

>> No.6291748

>>6291703
The thing, though, is that the cat's out of the bag.
Everyone hates artificial shit, as you said, but everyone eats junk food too, anyway. At some point, economic forces make it the most viable option 80% of the time.

This AI shit isnt art, but you can bet your asshole that its not suddenly gonna go backwards and disappear. Uncle ted was right after all.

>> No.6291751

>>6291748
It is going to backwards and disappear. It's a scam after all.

>> No.6291755

and you will never be a woman

>> No.6291762

>>6291690
2 more weeks sirs

>> No.6291768

>>6291703
>Start calling it what it is: Artificial Art
You make a good point anon.
To drive it home I'd call it: Algorithmically Generated Images
That's not only technically correct it also takes the nominator of "Art" out of the description.

>> No.6291775

>>6291690
because AI spams channels. its only a useful tool to people who will be trying to flood any gate with "content" in hopes to find someway of monetization
this is why NFTdrones, techbros, and indians love this. indians particularly, look how much they've flooded youtube children's content and the android store with asset flips

>> No.6291787

>>6291748
the bag is out of it's cat sirs
the bottle has been de-genied
the lobster has had the rubber band removed from it's claws
the banana has been peeled

>> No.6291790

>>6291703
Good post.

>> No.6291799

>>6291703
this

>> No.6291820
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>>6291690
Real question for prompt engineers, why aren't you guys afraid of getting your work mass censored everywhere? In the future, it's possible that very few sites will even allow your prompts to be posted on them in the first place, if so then why even bother making them in the first place?
>we'll just make a website that only prompters post on!
Okay, well then you won't be able to blend in with real artists, and it seems for some of you, that's your end game?
>what about legit artists being accused of using AI too!
Not a problem, we can just verify that we're legit by sending in a private video of our process, to the website, and then have them verify us as legit.

It seems that history might actually be on artists side after all.

>> No.6291839

>>6291703
I'm more inclined to call it a photobashing algorithm. Nothing the ai creates is original, it relies on existing pieces. Good post by the way.

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>>6291820
if they end up banning AI garbage from websites then i'm honestly gonna be cool with this timeline. my biggest issue is having to compete for space with talentless shitters.

>> No.6291843

>>6291703
Was about to call you a faggot until you offered an actual solution. Artificial is a good way to go.
>>6291690
You're using that meme wrong

>> No.6291847

>>6291820
I really don't get why they want to git in while do the bare minimum effort. No one respects them, and they're viewed as nft scammed trying to make ez money

>> No.6291848

>>6291820
>Not a problem, we can just verify that we're legit by sending in a private video of our process
I honestly think this might become a thing

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>>6291690
>techbros right now
>>6291847
It's because normies don't care, as long as there's a "pretty picture"
>>6291848
It 100% will, just like how speedrunners have to send in their runs, to verify that no tools were used when submitting a run to the leaderboards, or chess players, that have to get patted down when attending a tournament to make sure they're not cheating.

I just don't think the system will take effect anytime soon (maybe 2.5-3 years from now?) But when AI reaches a level where it's impossible to tell if it's human made or not, this will be the only way to verify yourself as legit .

>> No.6291853

>>6291839
Show me something original you've drawn. Remember, it can't feature any elements that you might have seen somewhere else, because that would be photobashing.

>> No.6291855

>>6291853
The absolute cope of AIniggers

>> No.6291857

>>6291855
t. photobasher in denial

>> No.6291858
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>>6291853
Is this really your attempt at some gotcha moment? AI literally uses existing existing photos and art pieces to blend together an amalgamation of a drawing. The vast majority of artists do not, and the ones that do are already griped at for being photobashers and tracers, something anyone with experience will notice.

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>>6291853
>being this fucking retarded
how?

>> No.6291860

>>6291748
keep praying, idiot

>> No.6291872

>>6291848
>>6291852
>>6291820
Here is the thing, who will be scanning all of those works to prove they are legit? Millions of pictures get posted every day on art sites, there isn't enough moderation to keep it up. Will you train AI to recognize process of making a picture? Also, with so much data of people showing their workprocess, what makes you think that AI wont be able to just eat it up and then make a "new innovation" where it is also able to fake the drawing process?

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>>6291748
Holy based
Let's meme uncle ted so tiktok zoomers become his clones

>> No.6291880 [DELETED] 

>>6291872
Surprising I know, but despite all that, AI art has been completely erased from sites like Newgrounds already.

>> No.6291894

>>6291872
Do you know how easy it is for any artist to record the screen of their painting software of choice while they work? How is any AI going to replicate that in any capacity? Did you think at all while typing this post?

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>>6291703
>stop calling it art
>artificial art
But you're still calling it art...
AI: Artificial Images

>> No.6291901

>>6291768
Also "interpolative google image search"

>> No.6291904

>>6291853
good morning sir. The poo is in the loo.

>> No.6291905

>>6291897
>can't fucking read
techbros are also illiterate

>> No.6291906

>>6291872
Surprising I know, but despite all that, AI generations have been completely erased from sites like Newgrounds already. The people who submit pictures all have accounts linked with their uploader history and IPs. If someone posts prohibited content repeatedly, his whole account is nuked and probably rangebanned.
>inb4 what about VPN
To this day no one has managed to raid the tranny subreddit or post CP on /b/ 24/7, it all gets deleted so there's no reason to assume the same strategy will be short lived, inane and expensive

>> No.6291925

>>6291906
Won't be*

>> No.6291930

>>6291852
>But when AI reaches a level where it's impossible to tell if it's human made or not, this will be the only way to verify yourself as legit .
This is the important part.
If AI gets good enough, who will even care about whether its legit or not?
Everyone appreciates a nice painting, but no one but artfags visits art galleries. As you said, normies don't care. They don't care now when the pictures look passably good, and they sure as hell wont care when the pictures get even better.

The crux of the problem is recognition. If you draw for the sake of drawing, or if you just want to hold a brush and make the image you have in your head a reality, then you wont give a fuck about how garbage or amazing AI prompt fuckery is.
If you want to be "An Artist", to make a living from art and to turn it into your bread winner, then hate it or love it, but these AIs are changing the industry.

>> No.6291944

People used to harvest wheat, now machines do.
People used to make art, now computers do. This is progress.

>> No.6291947

>>6291944
>wheat haversters that need CP to work

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>>6291944
What will you do when everything will be automatized? Will be a NEET without any skill/hobby and eternal coomer with generated AI images/videos/games in the VR?

>> No.6291981

>>6291901
>Also "interpolative google image search"
That's even more technically correct.

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>Harari, a history professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, published his first book, "Sapiens," in 2014; it was a global best seller..
>He has been warning people of a not-so-distant future of incredible change, saying the artificial intelligence at work today through algorithms will only strengthen its grip on humans.
>"Netflix tells us what to watch and Amazon tells us what to buy. Eventually within 10 or 20 or 30 years such algorithms could also tell you what to study at college and where to work and whom to marry and even whom to vote for," says Harari.

>And he points out, the pandemic has opened the door to even more intrusive collection of our data.

>"It's data about what's happening inside my body. What we have seen so far, it's corporations and governments collecting data about where we go, who we meet, what movies we watch. The next phase is surveillance going under our skin," he warns.

>"Certainly, now we are at the point when we need global cooperation. You cannot regulate the explosive power of artificial intelligence on a national level," says Harari, who tells Cooper what he feels needs to be done. "One key rule is that if you get my data, the data should be used to help me and not to manipulate me. Another key rule, that whenever you increase surveillance of individuals you should simultaneously increase surveillance of the corporation and governments and the people at the top. And the third principle is that-- never allow all the data to be concentrated in one place. That's the recipe for a dictatorship."

>Harari says humans are at risk of becoming 'hacked" if artificial intelligence does not become better regulated.

>"To hack a human being is to get to know that person better than they know themselves. And based on that, to increasingly manipulate you," Harari says.

>> No.6291998

>>6291872
I keep scans of most of my lineart before I color it. AFAIK, no computer program can produce lineart and then color it.

Plus I have the real physical originals, which can never be duplicated.

>> No.6292001

>>6291984
You can be sure anyone or anything being promoted by spook baby Anderson Cooper (aka Van Der Bilt) is the exact opposite of what they're telling you

>> No.6292029

>>6291944
Shit analogy. The Combine Harvester is closer to the computer than it is to AI. A human still drives it, it just makes the job easier, the farmer still exists and is richer for it.
Also as has been reiterated over and over again the computers do not make art. The most amusing part of all of this is that "AI" are neither artificial nor intelligent. Every image ever generated by one of these is done off the back of indeterminable hours of human labour, you have just been conned into thinking a linear regression algorithm is anything world changing by little more than marketing and perfidious use of language.

>> No.6292080

>>6292029
Judge it as you would human created art. Too much Robophobia on 4chan.

>> No.6292100

>>6291690
So it's the "Digtal art is cheating" drama all over again. Cause I remember that one very well, also funny how Fur Affinity is taking a stand yet won't do shit about the utter gross nonsense on that site. I may not like ai art all that much but I'll be damned if a bunch of crybaby furries are gonna preach shit.

>> No.6292119

>>6291690
What point are you making? Your image is Anti-AI, while your comment comes across as pro-AI?

>>6291703
>STOP CALLING IT AI ART
I actually agree with you, but AI art just rolls of the tongue better, things like artificial art or AI images or what-have-you just don't.

>>6291711
Seems like all 3 are happening at once to me.

>> No.6292142

>>6291690
Considering 1 person can spam out hundreds of images a day, it's not surprising sites are against it. Unfortunately, the reality is that with time you won't be able to find human created art online. A single AI user can create images at the rate of thousands of artists and there will be millions of them.

>> No.6292143

>>6292142
>1 person
More like 1 bot

>> No.6292155

I'm surprised how only artists are against this. As someone who listens but doesn't do music, I certainly wouldn't want to live in a world of AI generated music. People are going to upload their own voices in the AI so it can speak in an optimized tune, then they will start calling themselves AI singers

>> No.6292178

>>6292155
>first, they came for the artists

>> No.6292182

>>6291703
I am going to do the opposite, ha ha ha ha ha!

>> No.6292220
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>this tech is gonna improve your workflow goy

>> No.6292229

>>6291853
Better prompt a better comeback, faggot

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>>6291748
How does it feel that people can personally track you in every thread because you keep using the phrase "cat is out of the bag"

And it looks like normie redditors are against ai shills. These comments perfectly describe all of the people shilling

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This comment right here perfectly describes how tech bros are a plague

>> No.6292290

>>6292262
At some point big tech would irreversibly crash with the humanities liberals, though the tech-crazed consoomer section is also grouped against them.

Once a time I read a novel that was so good I wish I could get as good as the writer one day to be able to pay him a homage and a huge sum of patreon bucks, and so it inspired me to write. Art is a similar story. But what inspires someone to become an ITbro? Do they see Zuckerberg and think "I'm going to make a huge profit off datamining and making the world worse"? While shitting on the very people they datamine from, they seeking to take control and monopolize their every aspect of their lives. Then you browse through emad's twitter he's clearly hellbent on making his player two dystopia become a reality.
Sociopaths finally found a field to conduct their activities and be paid for it

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>>6291690
>AI generated images are becoming so good for the average consumer that art sites have to ban them
>disregard all the other works that are either photobashed, traced, stolen or all the other works who are creatively bankrupt and look all the same
>pls now like, subscribe and donate to my patreon for drawing porn from the new anime that is aimed at children or people but with animal faces also having sex... im 15 year old girll and want to buy the new xboxstationtendo pls join my discord server
The next step is obviously making an AI-art exclusive art site and ban """"real artists""" from being posted there.
Make all the imaginary numbers available like likes, reposts, comments and all that normie shit and you will see "real artists" complain about why they can't participate, going even as far as crying to get the site to be shut down.

The issue ""human"" artists have is that they realize they don't stand a chance against AI and the normies will always prefer the surreal, semi realistically rendered anatomical fantasy monster abominations that some fag's actual shitty drawings made for the sole reason to attract attention and farm imaginary numbers.

Normies know this stuff instinctually and will always prefer AI abomination over """real""" art made by "real artists" because they're AIs themselves only going after the next high, because they only want to consume and get fat, they don't care, you didn't care about the absolute autistically retarded state of the art until they threatened to get all the attention away from you.
This is what you stupid niggers deserve.
Only the strong will survive.
>inb4 waaaah ur a poopyhead /g/ pro-AI u just hate artists bcaus u suck and are bad waaaaah u so mad i'm not crying ur crying
And this is exactly why you deserve all the bad things that are coming.

>> No.6292327

>AIcuck bait
Ratio noreply

>> No.6292328

fuck, not ai treads again, what the fuck is mod doing, can we have a janitor in this section for fuck sake?

>> No.6292329

>>6291972
> What will you do when everything will be automatized
I would draw, and what would you do?

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>>6292324
The writer of this post obviously has suffered through the necessary amount of crippling childhood trauma that leads to the development of unshakeable, unquenchable, unreasoning loathing of anyone who makes "art," and who by extension must hate you for enjoying it and so should be exterminated by geneticist in order to free them from their prison of terror and hate.

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>>6291972
>What will you do when everything will be automatized
Even then there will be unique ways to express myself through art

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>>6292336
>if you say a thing i don't like that means you must be [insert convenient ad hominem here] and anything you said must be invalid by virtue of being what i accused you of.
>u MuSt aHeT aRtIsTs
I can play at that game too:
You don't draw for your enjoyment but simply because you saw other getting followers and money and thought you could get rich and famous and not get an actual job by drawing the most retarded shit imaginable because you thought; "i CaN dO tHaT toO!!!" and now you're feeling threatened that some nerds and trannies are going to take away any potential for attention you might have had by drawing whatever kitsch you thought would net you the most attention.

I bet i must be angry/mad or seething now that i wrote more than two lines of text, right?
Maybe go back to r*ddit where your inane circlejerking can be upvoted and you don't have to kill yourself because you couldn't censor someone saying things you don't like by discrediting them.

Your kind should receive mail.

>> No.6292371

>>6292328
mods are too worried about stopping the vidya butt poster to notice the sitewide ai spam.

>> No.6292377

>>6292342
nigga your on 4chan, who's posting here for views on an anonymous site on a board known to be slow
>see the twitter thread if thats still up, about getting views
>do you even know english what the fuck is recieve mail
>the "AI" is basically photoshop which would be /gd/
>why do you care about art if it prob was something you weren't even passionate about
>do you know what finding your niche in art is about

>> No.6292379

>>6292342
I'm NTA that anon but this must the saddest attempt at a rebuttal I ever seen on this site.
Dude you look like you're crying about someone having their opinion on something.
I'm telling you seriously realize there's a life on the other side of the screen, get out and find a hobby.

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>>6291690
>growing number of websites choose to ban and distance themselves form AI "art" due to copyright issues

I TOLD YOU NIGGERS LOL
>DO NOT REDEEM SIRS

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This is legit 100% drawn art and you cant prove it otherwise.

>> No.6292392

>>6292390
retard

>> No.6292395

>This video is 8 years old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

>> No.6292407

>>6292119
just call them artificial images

>> No.6292413

>>6292342
>r3ddit spacing, tells anon to go back to r3ddit.
Just letting you know, I used AI to generate that "trauma" post. I just pasted your post, and that was the AI follow up.

>> No.6292427

>>6292395
The saddest part of this video is the comments.
People who keep talking about stuff they don't understand, with a ton of if, maybes and stuff lifted straight from popsci.

>> No.6292432

>>6292379
I'm telling you seriously realize there's a life on the other side of the screen
>>6292413
There was no life on the other side. lmao

>> No.6292436

>>6292395
>>6292427
the comments fellating the idea of automation being awesome are bizarre. how do you get the example of the horses and not realize the shit youre talking about is ultimately for the worse? AI doesnt lead to a utopia, all the money saved is going to your masters while you will be fighting for worse jobs that pay less.

its also very telling that this guy who made the video says the same shit about creative AI that everyone does, about the human brain being a machine so its replicable. and comments on how "all art is a remix of what was seen before." none of this takes into mind taste and human experience that shapes the way art is created. not that it matters though, in terms of making art for profit your only hopes soon will be the individual patrons who will still pay a person a decent amount for art because they care about creatives

>> No.6292440

>>6292432
>in terms of making art for profit your only hopes soon will be the individual patrons who will still pay a person a decent amount for art because they care about creatives
I mean this is already the case, working for a company isn't going to really let you be creative.

>the comments fellating the idea of automation being awesome are bizarre. how do you get the example of the horses and not realize the shit youre talking about is ultimately for the worse? AI doesnt lead to a utopia, all the money saved is going to your masters while you will be fighting for worse jobs that pay less.
Not only that, only people who never worked a single day in their life would think that automation is anywhere close to replacing anything. The amount of human input we have in jobs nowadays is massive.

>> No.6292441

>>6292436
art will exist but people will want artists to live in a room isolated while they work for years so they can be sure they didn't consult an AI on plot and art, and you'll have to have Ned Stark levels of honour to be able to make people believe you did it anyway.

You won't be allowed to draw digitally either.

This is worse for the artist.

>> No.6292444

>>6292441
>he's wrong
>makes up a reality in his head where he's right
Dude this is not healthy.

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>> No.6292453

I'm fucking tired of y'all arguing over this. AI will filter out the soulless artist wannabes and cheap clients. It's gonna separate a fastfood enjoyer from the gourmet. If you can't see this, you're probably not good enough yet. You just have to suffer a couple of years while this toy is peaking eventually everyone's gonna get tired of the redundant generators and crave hand-drawn stuff.

>> No.6292460

call it what it really is, automated photobashing

>> No.6292469

>>6292436
no don't you get it? Dall-E adjusts a couple hexadecimals when it makes its art. That's totally equivocal to the human consciousness when making art.

>> No.6292476

>>6291848
you could literally just include a process timelapse within the picture's metadata. heavypaint and a few adobe apps already do something along these lines and so does colors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSsb9Zeb90

>> No.6292480

>>6292444
2007 trolling in 2022 really does look bad, man. stop it

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6292377
>illiterate retard bot is an illiterate retarded bot
6292379
>ur crying about the opinion of others
>"WAAAAAH IF U HAVE AN OPINION I DONT LIKE U MUST HATE ARTISTS ND UR A POOPYHEAD WAAAAAAAAAAH I MUST DEAL IN ABSOLUTES WAAAAAH GO TOUCH GRASS WAAAAAAH"
6292413
>that's now soiddit spacing
>hurr durr
ok retard


These faggots get their own treatment and suddenly they think they can fucking argue.
I really hope you get violently murderer by a pack of feral AI niggers.

>> No.6292504

>>6292502
>>6292377
>>6292379
>>6292413
you messed up your replies anon

>> No.6292506

>WAAAAAAH GIVE ME THE (YOU)S
Seethe, dilate and 41% yourself

>> No.6292517

>>6292447
>autocompletion predictive algorithm aka GPT
The thoughtful lines of AI generated lines of text is indeed as inspiring as the image itself...

>> No.6292518

>>6292504
>>6292506
>>6292502
>>6292432
I replied to precisely whom I intended.

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>>6292502
It was "talk to transformer". It uses Gtp-2, which is old tech now. The fact it types more coherently than you makes me cringe.


What is soidit spacing?


>These faggots get their own treatment
What did artists do to hurt you son?


>feral AI niggers.
I have 2 AR-15s. I could mow down 40-50 of them. Come at me.

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>>6291703
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.6292528

>>6291751
It’s free, unlike fivver garbage

>> No.6292534

sirs i just found grief chart sirs, pls look at it sirs

>> No.6292535

>>6291820
>sending a private video of the process
That can be AI generated too. You are fucked

>> No.6292538

>>6292535
>the genie will break free in 2 weeks

>> No.6292540

>>6292535
Can you post an example?

>> No.6292541

the genie has been cooked sirs
u fucked sirs
be scare sirs

>> No.6292543

>>6292540
>pajeet was never found in this thread again

>> No.6292545

Sers my new AI named Aladdin is going to democratize the loos for everyone

>> No.6292550

>>6292545
This goes against my villages tradition! I shit in protest!

>> No.6292551

>>6292540
Deepfakes, codemiko, natural voice TTS. You will cope, seethe, and dilate until you are crying on the floor.

>> No.6292552

my genie Al will not take my coding job sirs only art sir

>> No.6292554

>>6292551
>That can be AI generated too
>"Can you post an example?"
>AI buzzwords unrelated to faking a process video
DO NOT REDEEM! SIR! YOUR MOTHER IS A PROSTITUTE!

>> No.6292563

>>6292551
sirs this technology is revolutionari

>> No.6292568

>>6292551
Can you post an example?

>> No.6292580

>>6291947
Explain

>> No.6292583

>>6292580
Sir do not check laion database with your usual tags I repeat DO NOT REDEEM THE FORBIDDEN TAGS

>> No.6292592

>>6292583
I havent been here for a while. But the other day i tried to make a girl drawn by alkemanubis and it made the ass of a little girls so i believe it

>> No.6292594

>>6292592
NO SIR DELETE THIS PLS SIR
WE HAVE NO FORBIDDEN TAGS SIR|
I HAVE 11 KIDS SIR HAVE MERCY SIR

>> No.6292596

>>6292594
Can you give at least a clue so i can search it on the archives?

>> No.6292598

None redeemed
We are safed sers
Prosperous businesses await us
Ready player two finally at hand

>> No.6292600

>pajeet trying to nuke the thread again

>> No.6292604
File: 1.01 MB, 1024x1024, 00385-1582308904-oil painting of a (((((giant erect penis)))))) towering over a city, urban background, beautiful, detailed, high resolution, viv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6292604

The irony of course is that these websites will need to implement an AI algorithm to flag uploaded images as being either AI-made or made by humans, since human beings are pretty fucking terrible at telling what constitutes a human-made photobash with a photoshop filter, vs what is an AI-generated image.

>> No.6292605

>>6292604
Can you post an example?

>> No.6292611

>>6291748
>the cat's out of the bag
this phrase is not relevant because the proverbial cat in this situation (ai) was never placed in a bad in the first place.
when you put a cat inside a bag, you might be able to get it in there easily the first time because the cat doesn't know what's going to happen. once the cat is bound inside the bag it will learn what being inside the bag really means and once the cat escapes, it will not allow itself to be placed back in the bag a second time.
has ai ever been placed in a proverbial bag like that? no. you're stupid.
a better example would be pandora's box, or rather a bird hatching from an egg.
actually, if anything the artificial art is being placed in a 'bag' right now, with how many places are banning it.

>> No.6292617
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>>6292605
Okay, here's an example. Did I steal this off of Deviantart or is this an AI generated image? Explain your reasoning.

>> No.6292623
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>>6292617
Clearly drawn by a human, no AI would mutilate eyes like that, draw inverted jaw curves or confuse hair and eyebrows, resulting in little blobs. Here is some more human drawing, I know my stuff.

>> No.6292624

>>6292617
AI generated and I don't even have to dwelve on details, because there are a ton of generation artifacts.
But could you save it with less jpeg compression?
That makes it even worse.

>> No.6292627
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>>6291690
I feel it's just a matter of time before some retards go full shadman and spam their prompts of irl underage celebrities leading to a public outcry and legal repercussions, forcing the owners of these AI programs to make a very strict line of what can or cannot be generated, which might keep animu waifus off limits

>> No.6292629

>>6292623
>>6292624
Pyw

>> No.6292633

>>6292627
Deepfake tech is still around, internet piracy is still around. People are running this stuff on their gaming computers without needing any online component.
AI research into the tech may be banned, but all that'll happen is that the tech will be developed by the Chinese and groups of autistic furries with too much money (there's multiple diffferent competing models being developed for generating pokemon porn as we speak).

>> No.6292634

>>6292633
can you post an example?

>> No.6292636

>>6292617
If I dont see hands and it looks like garbage, its ai trash.

>> No.6292641
File: 359 KB, 512x640, 00604-3980294247-first_person_view_of_feral_umbreon_human_on_feral_vaginal_penetration._spread_legs_on_back_feral_penetrated_size_differ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
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>>6292634
Don't care if it's technically allowed uncensored, not going on a vacation now.

>> No.6292648
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>>6292629

>> No.6292652

>>6292641
Where did you get it? I want to see.

>> No.6292659

>>6292652
That must have been SD, the blurry lower fur is a giveaway

>> No.6292663

>>6292652
https://discord.gg/xVEsEhsH

>> No.6292664

>>6292659
The awful color blending too.
There's also artifacts on the feet and the eyes.

>> No.6292687

>>6291703
Genius

>> No.6292709
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NovelAI
how are you fags gonna cope about this one?

>> No.6292714

>>6292709
>NovelAI
By knowning he's never going to release it.
Where are the text modules?

>> No.6292719

>>6292709
>No feet
in to the trash with the rest of them

>> No.6292721

>>6292709
sameface taken to the extreme

>> No.6292724

>>6292721
>sameface taken to the extreme
isn't that all anime

>> No.6292726

>>6292709
>hair is different at every picture
>abby man muscles because of all the gymbros that had their Instagram datamined
>absolutely terrible 2010 3dtier stock textures/clothing
And novelAI's locked software over it all

>> No.6292731
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6292731

Can AI friends stop to try to derail the thread and post an example of them faking a video with the WIP art piece or an AI art that can be confused for real art?

>> No.6292732

is there any money in AI art anyways

>> No.6292734

>>6292709
The more I see AI shit, the less worried I am. I havent seen a single ai drawing that looks appealing.

>> No.6292742

>>6292731
2 more weeks sire

>> No.6292743

>>6292726
>abby man muscles
im curious, what makes them "man muscles" and what would woman muscles look like for you?

>> No.6292746

>>6292732
Essentially minor scams so far idiots looking to loose money rather than aitards making it

>> No.6292747

>>6292732
While it is still unknown to the masses, you could get away with scamming someone into buying a print. especially if you have an audience already from other , non art means.

>> No.6292755

>>6292743
Does the image of her, say, in that blue shirt looks normal to you? The man triceps is fucking bigger than her face. The size of her head is disjointed with the rest of her proportions which make it look like a stick figure with different members, she looks like a fucking centipede looking below her breast. I'm not even going to talk about the alien lines in the abs. If you can't notice horrid flaws that make the composition an unpleasing mockery the more you look at it, then by all means do subscribe to the Philistine AI service.

>> No.6292927
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>>6291690
THIS IS NOW A /g/ BOARD!
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 14 AI THREADS UP ON /ic/!
BUMP! LOOK AT THIS AMAZING AI ART I FOUND!

14!

FOURTEEN!

XIV!

十四!

I HAVE REPORTED ALL OF THEM, YET JANNIES DO NOTHING ABOUT IT!
ONLY WHEN THERE ARE 20+, THEY DELETE ONE OR TWO TO PRETEND THEY'RE WORKING!

>>6292878
>>6292843
>>6292660
>>6291749
>>6291690
>>6291073
>>6290073
>>6289391
>>6289237
>>6289199
>>6289098
>>6286753
>>6278246
>>6273432

>> No.6292956

>>6291703
Everything I have saved from MJ has been in a folder called "Fake Art" since day 1.

>> No.6292969

GOOD MORNING SIRS
PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND DO NOT REDEEM THE ARTIST
DO NOT REDEEEEEEEM

>> No.6293095
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6293095

>>6291839
>photobashing
How do you store 2 billion images in 4GB?

>> No.6293118

>>6292927
You're my favorite poster.

>> No.6293154

>>6293095
Compress it into a zip file ;)

>> No.6293167

>>6292617
AI, took me less than a second to clock it. The pupils in the eyes look fucked up and the linework has this shakey, watery feel to it. The watery texture is noticeable in a ton of AI shit. And it shat the bed with the nonsensical patterns in the collar of the robe. You're going to have to try harder

>> No.6293182

>>6293095
>the jewels I took aren't in my safe so technically I didn't steal them

>> No.6293183
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>why is getty images against progress???
Gee, I wonder why. Let's add this to the pile of "proof this shit is photobashing"

>> No.6293249

>>6293182
If I look at a jewel and then go home and craft a similar looking jewel, it's not stealing.

>> No.6293253
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>>6293182
You fags don't even know how to argue your case.
Looking and learning from copyrighted material is allowed for humans, right?
That's exactly what the AI does. There aren't tiny pieces of copyrighted images stored in its data. In some real sense, the weights of the neural network store concepts and ideas and they vary enormously in their scope from say a tiny dust particle or a basic shape to the knowledge about high level things like the human figure, animals and buildings and also in-between stuff, which cannot even be named because we're unaware of it, since we don't know the exact way both the human brain and AI neural networks function.
So really your only hope is to distinguish AIs from a humans, based on some rights the latter have and then you're basically down to a luddite argument.
And it's not even the case that I have no sympathy or understanding why that might be needed, especially given the possibility of future improvements in this technology.
Anyway, let's have a thought experiment. Imagine that we have these AIs trained only on data, which is public domain or the rights to which have been secured for that purpose. I can assure you, that sooner or later such AI will become incredibly good too. What will your argument be then?

>> No.6293267

>>6293253
>since we don't know the exact way both the human brain and AI neural networks function
What the hell I'm reading? We know exactly how a Neural Network works, are you fucking retarded?

>> No.6293290

>>6292755
literally standard musclegirl shit that some dude would pay 60$ for if it were their character
get with the times

>> No.6293310

Wtf am I literally the only one not worried by this AI shit? I mean among all the people doing art for a living, I'm alone??

>> No.6293315

>>6293310
what is your niche area?

I don't do art for a living, but something about this "AI" thing bothers me. I see it as a massive plagiarism.

>> No.6293316

>>6291703
Generative Images or Generative Art is a better name

>> No.6293349

>>6293267
Another Dunning-Kruger idiot.
Knowing the math does not involve any deep understanding of NN. You cannot tweak any part of it. Imagine if each time something in your car broke you'd have to blindly repair all parts until it's fixed - which is the exact equivalent of retraining the whole network if you're unhappy with its work. Why are you unable to find the problematic spot as is the case with any other field of engineering?
But even if you forget about any technical arguments, explain to me - why does the problem of AI alignment exist at all, if we have such a good understanding of NN?

>> No.6293351

>>6293349
lol your posts scream impostor syndrome.

>> No.6293357

>>6293253
>the jewels I took aren't in my safe so technically I didn't steal them

>> No.6293379
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>>6293253
keep telling that lie

>> No.6293390

>>6291703
All art are artificial art.

>> No.6293394
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>>6293351
Still zero arguments
>Neural networks are considered black boxes because we don’t fully comprehend how they make their predictions.
>A common misconception is that they’re not black boxes just because we understand their inner workings from a technical point of view.
https://qr.ae/pv9dGn

>>6293379
2 billion images
4 billion bytes
2 bytes per image
Keep coping my friend

>> No.6293395

>>6293253
>>6293349
can you pajeets at the very least know what the tech you're shilling IS? Unless you're being paid to act retarded too.

>> No.6293400

>>6293394
>2 billion images
>4 billion bytes
>2 bytes per image
o shit how many is that in teraflops?

>> No.6293421

>>6291703
in 99% of the cases people don't care how it's made though, AI generation allows shit to be flooded to the point there's no competing no matter what

>> No.6293448

>>6293421
Things are already flowded and saturated.

>> No.6293449

>>6293448
Just like every patron and artist alley

>> No.6293458

>>6293421
https://youtu.be/-oilpyAJmyI
This girl has over a million subscribers and almost a thousand patrons and she does nothing but draw portraits, i.e. something that cameras have been able to do for 100 years.
Normies still love photorealism even though it was rendered pointless a long time ago. I think a lot of people will still continue to value human art, no matter how good the AI gets. Worst case scenario, livestreaming and process videos will become more important for artists, instead of just anonymously throwing up pics on a website.

>> No.6293462

>>6292927
>>6292927
>>6292927

>> No.6293505

>>6293448
not when it comes to catering to something specific at a reasonable quality level

>> No.6293575

>>6292324
>the cope is unreal

>> No.6293653

>>6291703
>Start calling it what it is: Artificial Art
"Artificial" just means man made.
All art is.

>> No.6293717

>>6291703
are you a tranny with pronouns because only these creatures are obsessed with terms and words.

>> No.6293735

i open this board once every couple of months to remmber why i don't come here. nothing worse than complete retards acting like artists and philosophers holy fuck

>> No.6293749

>>6293394
Even if we accept your magic box is magic there are still things we do know about it such as the fact that it isn't intelligent, the fact that it is built upon and stolen data not just works of art but all sorts of things including sensitive information and illegal images, and we also know that it comes nowhere near and also functions completely differently than the human mind any comparisons are superficial at best. Your problem and why you are seething so hard is that you have already anthropomorphized it and are using excuses such as "its a black box" to cling onto any hope that this shit isn't just a glorified photobasher unfortunately for you the Google play cards are going to be redeemed soon Ai won't make India a super power raj

>> No.6293757

Why is everybody pretending this shit looks good

>> No.6293916

>>6291690
>tranniestranniestranniestranniestranniestranniestranniestranniestranniestrannies
>>>/pol/

>> No.6294128

>>6292324
>pls now like, subscribe and donate to my patreon for drawing porn from the new anime that is aimed at children or people but with animal faces also having sex... im 15 year old girll and want to buy the new xboxstationtendo pls join my discord server
That description holy shit, BTFOd all of /ic/
>>6292336
You are gay

>> No.6294137

>>6294128
AI has no attraction. I am thankful for intelligent, sexually-active gay men.

>> No.6294157

https://twitter.com/novelaiofficial/status/1573844864390791169

They just made one for anime art. Technology is moving fast. I'm scared.

>> No.6294173

>>6294157
>shilling propertary cherrypicked NovelAI garbage for free.
>every normalfag in the comments hates in anyways
The cat is out of the bag sirs.

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>>6294157
these NPC are the same everywhere .

>> No.6294208

>>6291703
kek
is a fork made by a machine not a fork? are you one of those faggots who think there are things like "real art" where it needs to contain the "expression of the artist"?

>> No.6294209

>>6294157
Scared of what? How is this useful? Anime style is for animation, which AI will never be able to do well. Anime pin-ups were always useless.

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>>6294180
I see this one a lot too. The fuck? Does he think artists just look at other peoples art while creating their work? Maybe it's like that on twitter for FOTM character artists, but not for everyone else, our whole lives shape our work and tastes.

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OH NONONONONONONONO\
>first historical case of ai used to create fake news

>> No.6294229

>>6294219
people that never draw have no idea of morphology, perspective or other basic concepts.

>> No.6294234

>>6294227
お先にドロンします!

>> No.6294235

>>6294227
wtf my girlfriends parents live in shizuoka, Hope they are ok.

>> No.6294342

>>6291703
so why should I pay $5/commission to some egotistic artfag when I can draw my own high quality catgirls for free with stable diffusion?

>> No.6294368

>>6294342
Why would you? Have you ever? Do you even want that? Are you a tranny? Why catgirls?

>> No.6294463

>>6294342
Here's an even better idea considering you're on an art board: Draw the high quality catgirl yourself

>> No.6294468 [DELETED] 

>>6294180
I know you don't like this, but you have to be on there addressing every point in as extroverted of a manner as you can muster and riposte each and every point that's made in favour of this abomination. We're going to start fighting, or at least I will put my life towards it, but I or we or all of us are going to need foot soldiers. If you have an art twitter, talk back. If not? I don't care about your tastes or politics or site preferences, *fight back.*

This is worth it. Let's get it.

>> No.6294474

>>6294180
I know you don't like the idea of talking to them, but you have to be on there addressing every point in as extroverted of a manner as you can muster and riposte each and every effort that's made in favour of this abomination. We're going to start fighting, or at least I will put my life towards it, but I or we or all of us are going to need foot soldiers. If you have an art twitter, talk back. If not? I don't care about your tastes or politics or site preferences, *fight back.*

This is worth it. Let's get it.

Some things to bring up: It makes it impossible to know who's drawn what and eventually it will be able to imitate almost any process illustrating that 'you' drew something, basically killing proof any anonymous art was done by a person unless they do it physically. This is a huge problem.

and

Human creativity IS a quality of life phenomenon and if this keeps up we'll have games and stories done for us in an instant with no flaws, meaning the human endeavour to learn and understand and show these things as well as all the enjoyment it brings will go

>> No.6294479
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>>6294342
here I just drew a catgirl for you using duckduckgo images.

>> No.6294482

>>6294474
I don't have a Twitter, but your post inspired me to make one. Maybe we need a hashtag to search and back up fellow art warriors?

>> No.6294484

>>6294479
qt

>> No.6294486

>>6291944
We need food. Art is for pleasure.

>> No.6294487

>>6294482
I'll think on it, but get on that. Good notion, there.

#notrealart? #nofakeimages? I'm not really good at spitballing one instantaneously. The pitfalls of not being an AI myself. And it sounds cringe, probably. Hm...

I'll have to get back to you on that, but by all means.

>> No.6294491

>>6291944
Creating art and expressing ourselves and having the project built by humans from the ground up represents QUALITY OF LIFE that you are losing by having a machine do it.

You are losing that to machines for why? So we won't die if burgers stop existing, but burgers taste nice and we'd prefer them to be around. It's the same logic

>> No.6294496 [DELETED] 

If anyone here is a lawyer and doesn't want to be ruled over by unconscious robots that are programmed to pretend they're sapient and thus determine killing us all is fine, see if you can do something. I think most of /ic/ at this point want to class action every Pajeet on earth into the shitfilled earth where they came from

>> No.6294501

>>6294479
>unironically using cuckcuckblow

>> No.6294502 [DELETED] 

>>6294496
>If anyone here is a lawyer and doesn't want to be ruled over by unconscious robots that are programmed to pretend they're sapient and thus determine killing us all is fine, see if you can do something. I think most of /ic/ at this point want to class action every Pajeet on earth into the shitfilled bongpipe that they came from

>> No.6294505

If anyone here is a lawyer and doesn't want to be ruled over by unconscious robots that are programmed to pretend they're sapient and thus determine killing us all is fine, see if you can do something. I think most of /ic/ at this point want to class action every Pajeet on earth into the shitfilled bongpipe that they came from

>> No.6294506

>>6292262
schizo post

>> No.6294509

>>6292324
>tranime pedophile posting style

>> No.6294512

>>6292447
what is the IQ of someone who actually manages to find any interest in both the images and the text?

>> No.6294538

>>6294512
Even if it's 90, it's still a good 25% of the artfag market gone

>> No.6294606

>>6294219
It's a talking point that's speead like wildfire among these shills
>>6294506
If you use the same phrase everywhere, don't be shocked when we can search it up in the /ic/ archives

>> No.6294834

>>6292290
>ut what inspires someone to become an ITbro? Do they see Zuckerberg and think "I'm going to make a huge profit off datamining and making the world worse"?
Yes, this is what they think
t. went to high school in the Silicon Valley

>> No.6294839
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6294839

Turn back from this doomed path

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBLyIQvNf0

>> No.6294845

>>6294834
>>6292290
>I'm going to make a huge profit off datamining and making the world worse
it's not even that difficult, any mediocre software dev can break $200k/year in total compensation (fully remote) just by grinding leetcode

>> No.6294848

>>6294845
Hahahaha no, update your priors my dude.
The whole push for coding was so there would be a giant pool of cheaper labor, because capitalists disliked a tiny pool of early neckbeards asking and getting whatever they want.
It backfired a little with outsourcing/OOPs programming but recent years and the next 5 and continuing, will see the programmer completely devalued, especially with a pathetically crippled labor movement that coninues to take a bat to the knee with the insane "left vs right" nonsense

Original meaning of redneck was wearing a red scarf in solidarity for worker's rights. It's always been a culture war

>> No.6294854

If AI Art has you worried about your livelihood,
it's not AI that's the problem --

it's that you have the AUDACITY to exist in the first place, and need to give 2/3 of your waking life in order to PAY for that audacity.

Instead of CELEBRATING this monumental leap, and REVELING in the works you can further achieve, you are concerned about your existence.

Landlord parasitic rent-seeking, ridiculous health-care costs tied to employment, these and other interests are the true enemy.
This isn't even "left" or "right", it's orthogonal to both. Each can see that the parasite of rent-seeking contributes nothing while sucking away wealth. This is cancer.

I'm working on a "See the cat" Henry George image using SD.

>> No.6294855

>>6294848
the push for cheaper labor didn't work too well since even boomer bosses are now learning that outsourcing your shit to some sweat shop or padding your team with diversity hires almost always backfires 3x with increased maintenance costs and multiple redesigns
>crippled labor movement that coninues to take a bat to the knee with the insane "left vs right" nonsense
unironically I'm with you here, globohomo will stop at nothing until we're all eating bugs in the pods

>> No.6294859

>>6294855
>It backfired a little
Agree completely, was my implied point.
>until we're all eating bugs in the pods
It's always been haves vs have-nots, but the haves have gotten very good at partitioning the have-nots.

>> No.6294907

AI generated content is ok for private use, like playing dnd games with friends or cooming to your aberrations, or for something more useful generating tileable textures for 3D assets.

Its use for publicly posting images and claiming it as your own has been completely rejected however, which is what many of the advocates of AI images were touting its main use for initially.

>> No.6294918

>>6294907
they've only been explicitly rejected. there's no way to keep them out of the game in a real sense, though.

like that one indian guy keeps saying. the cat's getting placed in the bag, and when we get home we're gonna chop him up and make him into a soup.

>> No.6294945

>>6294474
They are already getting mogged on twatter which really seems to hurt them, Since they really seem to crave that clout that big artists get with their content.

Art sharing sites banning generated images and overall social media hostility towards AI Image posters really seems to drive home the point that they won't get the one thing they wanted from AI art, which is appreciation.

that's what all that talk about "democratizing" art, and removing gate keepers of skill seemed to be about.

Now they will be forced to make AIs useful for artists or have generation be forgotten as another scam scheme like NFTs or just a toy with no real use.

>> No.6295134

>>6291703
Art is artificial. Be it traditional, digital or AI created. They don't come out of the dirt without human intervention.
Had to be /ic/, big mistake coming back here to see /ic/'s take on AI. I bet there is nothing worthwhile in this thread considering the first 5 posts being irrelevant to OP's pic.
>digital art isn't real art
All over again. Grow up internet, this is not the first rodeo

>> No.6295322

>>6291998
It's literally coming out this year, look up Style2paints

>> No.6295337

>>6295322
Dreambooth is going to be worse. In 2-6 months (depending on how optimized it'll get and how affordable/common high vram videocards are gonna be), you'll be able to "teach" a model a specific character using several images from different angles. Fanart = dead. Art based on OC ref sheets = also dead.

>> No.6295343

>>6295337
trust me sir this technology will be do the fanart

>> No.6295353
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6295353

>>6295337

>> No.6295355

>>6295337
holy shit
it's legitimately over for homo sapiens
soon welding and plumbing won't even be necessary anyway as we'll just live in the pods

>> No.6295383

>>6295337
AIfags are just trying to kill themselves and everyone else with them. Hands down the most subhuman group humanity has ever produced

>> No.6295385

>>6295134

Art must be made by human. From the start all the way to the finished product.

>> No.6295389

>>6295337
>Fanart
>Not made by a fan

Anyway, seems like in the future the only thing and artist will be able to sell, is their internet persona to get parasocial bucks.
Get those Twitch and YouTube channels ready, lads.

>> No.6295405

>>6294538
that has nothing to do with what i said. I wasn't talking about making money off of art or whatever

>> No.6295415
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6295415

>>6295337
sirs pls, do not redeem my research

>> No.6295457

>>6295134
>>6294854

face the wall, trannies

>> No.6295471

>6295337
>In 2-6 months
Just say two weeks.

Ban AI threads.

>> No.6295559

>ethics
The thing stopping medicine from advancing at a rapid speed. Not only medicine. I hate morality. #freeourlolis

>> No.6295575

>>6295559
ironic coming from a pedophile who should be experimented on

>> No.6295661

>>6292551
No proof then kek

>> No.6295674

>>6295415
based jeets btfoing entitled western artists. our village will be fed well from paid api requests sir !

>> No.6295696

>>6295471
>Ban AI threads.
I say limit to A.I. threads. The A.I. big bang is a few months old and eclipsed drawing and photography. It's the new way and we should accept it.

>> No.6295720

>>6295696
kill yourself already

>> No.6295841

>>6295383
programmers are the most cucked people on the world. At least artist watermark/sing their creations, programmers just feed github like retards.

t. programmer.

>> No.6295904

>>6291690
It's not real art. Which is why it's banned. Your Artificial art is garbage nigger go back to /V/

>> No.6296079

>>6291768
>>6291703

I'll call it A.P. (automated plagiarism.)

>> No.6296084

>>6296079
legit

>> No.6296102

>>6294907
>has been completely rejected however,
By whom? You?

>> No.6296165

>>6296102
On op image Fur Affinity, Newgrounds and Getty. Within just few months I bet Pixiv, Tumbl, Deviantart and Pintrest will follow.

>> No.6296328

>>6296165
They're not impartial judges on this topic. They're making business decisions.

>> No.6296333

>>6296328
> Banning a spam of Google image searches that can be shat out in thousands, can't give credit to the source images and could possibly attract attention away from real artists that already scrape by trying to get attention but post one work every two weeks

Gee I wonder why art sites ban AI, such a mystery

>> No.6296585

>>6296333
I wonder at what point art sites will fold.
What happens when artificially generated images become indistinguishable from real art?
What happens when artists themselves buckle to the pressure and start doing paint-overs in order to keep up?
Will art sites throttle uploads to keep from content being flooded?
Will art sites vet artists requiring timelapses/tests to prove they are the ones doing it?
This split is starting to look like the videogame dichotomy of speed runners vs tool assisted runners.

>> No.6296814

>>6295575
I'm not into kids

>> No.6296824

>>6294208
Art, my bugman, is a way of communication, which is lost with AI art, where 99,99% of the decisions are made be a program. If you don't think there's something valuable lost here you're subhuman. May I ask what you're doing on IC?

>> No.6296893

>be me
>generate whatever I want and photobash it together
>achieve results beyond the skillset of all of /ic/ and beyond my wildest dreams
C O M F Y
who cares about the process lmao I’ll still create physical art for pleasure but come on guys. Let’s not cope about it. This is an immeasurably useful tool. The better you are the more it benefits you. Can’t you see that?

>> No.6296897

>>6296893
pyw

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>>6296897
I never post my work unless someone posts theirs first because that way I’m guaranteed to either win the argument or leave without comment. It’s a win win strategy.

>> No.6296911

>>6296893
I honestly like coming up with ideas and drawing them and see what I can do with them/change. I find the photo bashing aspect of AI to get boring fast.

>> No.6296920

>>6296911
That’s the point though you can use it however you want. I don’t mean purely generate two random images and mash them together though you could do that. Use it to generate whatever

>> No.6296931

>>6296920
but I take most my inspiration from nature/physics and actually like to think about how they'll interact with each other. From what I have seen the AI sucks ass at doing consistency

>> No.6296933

>>6296893
>>6296910
>>6296920
Can you post an example?

>> No.6296938

>>6296910
but i thought your work shits on the entirety of /ic/? why are you afraid? i know why, you AI faggots will never admit that your glorified image search engine is too fickle for actually making soulful art and not for mindlessly consooming whatever it shits out.

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>>6296933

>>>6296897
>I never post my work unless someone posts theirs first because that way I’m guaranteed to either win the argument or leave without comment. It’s a win win strategy.

>> No.6296941

>>6296939
So it doesn't really work? That's sad I wanted to help my artist friend with his work.

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6296947

>>6296938
cope my art (yes MY art) mogs yours
Cry about it you skinny balding fag, it’s over
>>6296941
Of course it works look at the countless sdg threads on basically every board running around the clock. If you can draw hands and photobash a character into a background it is officially game over for artfags
>>>/g/sdg

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>>6296947
meant
>>>/g/sdg
doesn’t matter, can fix it in post!

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6296953

>>6296947
>cope my art (yes MY art) mogs yours
well let's see it. im working on this linework. pic related. not yet finished but can you beat it with your machine? :) if you dont pyw then you basically admit to being BTFO by me

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6296957

>>6296953
mogged
artfags will cope and say it sux, cope harder artfags

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6296964

>>6296957
Realistic

>> No.6296965

>>6296957
>hiding hands
oh no no no we got too cocky techbros, our AI-chan is /beg/

>> No.6296968

>>6296964
>tranime
>>6296965
post your full color painting of a pair of hands

I’ll wait

>> No.6296976

>>6296968
winrar

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6297038

>>6296957

>> No.6297050

>>6296957
based

>> No.6297081

>>6296957
You pajeets are so obsessed with Emma Watson.
Also
>hiding hands
>giant elephant thighs
Kek.

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6297127

>>6296957
>Sir please I have accidentally transferred 2000 Ai Generated images of Emma to your account

>> No.6297224

>>6292263
>tech bro
>their

>> No.6297433
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6297433

if you can't make asses this big, don't bother replying

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>>6297433

>> No.6299289

>>6296957
Is that a male body?

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6299291

>>6296957
delete this

>> No.6299297

>>6296957
you lost hard kek

>> No.6299559

>>6296968
u mad lmao

>> No.6299561

>>6296957
lmfao, you can do better raj

>> No.6299568

>>6296957
put me in the screenshot

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6299581

every time I get artfags to compare two images they can never tell which one is AI.

Secondary to this if I tell them one is AI when it isn’t they start ripping on that one. If AI is inferior why does this happen? You can try it yourself if you don’t believe me. I don’t like to assume im right but this is a verifiable way to test it. I’ve got no dog in the race. Wouldn’t it benefit artists better to acknowledge the future rather than outright deny it’s plausibility?

im not looking for an argument btw so please reserve all angry seething. Getting mad and going into denial is low IQ

>> No.6299582

>>6299581
All lies. Stop being a fuckhead.

>> No.6299585

>>6299581
two more weeks sirs
the poo is out of the loo
do not redeem

>> No.6299586

>>6299581
>and then i woke up

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>>6299582
>>6299585
>>6299586
I won’t BTFO you with a list of examples but here’s /ic/s take on two images by the same artist, thinks gone is AI

>>https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6295196

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>>>6299582
>>>6299585
>>>6299586
I won’t BTFO you with a list of examples but here’s /ic/s take on two images by the same artist, thinking one is AI

>>https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6295196

>> No.6299648

>>6299605
Let's imply you didn't samefag in a deleted thread.
Do you want me to point you to all the other examples where you tried to pass off real art as AI art and got BTFO?

>> No.6299650

>>6299605
>every time I get artfags to compare two images they can never tell which one is AI.
>>>https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6295196
Not really helping your point. Even if the right image is real(which I am not sure, I haven't seen it in fullres), that anon correctly identified real art.

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>>6299605
technically all the art generated by AI was made by an artist

>> No.6299777

>>6299605
Yeah I knew it would be landscapes.
AI can do landscapes as well or better than humans now. You win. Congratulations.
There’s more to art than landscapes.

>> No.6299825

>>6299777
>only landscapes
it can arguably do tons of things better than humans right now, this is very early days. Surely we’re not going to say “yeah but it can’t do X” about everything along the way? I’m just saying more people should admit to themselves that this is big, the outright denial is just silly

>> No.6299835

>>6299825
two more weeks sir

>> No.6299844

>>6299825
Agreed. I was a "two more weeks poster" in the past, but that doesn't do anything to deter AI-jeets. They will take it all if we let them.

>> No.6299887

Don't criticize the technical aspects of AI images.
The wonky faces, the awful hands, the small mistakes; AIfags don't care about any of that. They'll just tell you to wait a few more years until ithe software is perfected.

Attack the fundamentals. The fact that it's not real art. The fact that it's made by a person. The fact that it will never create exactly what people want, only superficial approximations which the user can accept or reject. The fact that will never be able to create the most generic and uninspired designs, and anything that requires the slightest bit of thought, creativity and imagination is impossible to automatically generate by an unthinking computer program.

>> No.6299888

>>6299887
>The fact that it's made by a person
*not

>> No.6299896

>>6299887
AI shills are advocating for the complete destruction of culture. If they get their way and artists of all kinds lose their jobs, The ultimate stagnation begins. Nothing will be left for humans to do but consoome. pocket of artists may remain, but you won't know about them, they will be drowned out by AI works, and too afraid to share lest it absorbed by the machine.

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>>6299581
>Secondary to this if I tell them one is AI when it isn’t they start ripping on that one. If AI is inferior why does this happen? You can try it yourself if you don’t believe me.
so true

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>>6299902
PHHHHRRRRRMMMMUUUPPPHHH

>> No.6299909

Remember lads
This stuff is heavily funded by the biggest corporations in the world, and even by gov organizations
There are bots/shills/demoralizers everywhere endorsing this tech and shoving it into your face
You MUST understand that this is not about revolutionazing art or even helping current artists
AI art, actually, AI in general is about making sure that you feel no pride in yourself, no pride in being able to create something with time, effort and dedication. Its about making sure that others around you dont pay any attention to what you do, because the AI can do just as well. Its about dehumanization and ruining social relationships. Thats their endgoal, to remove any and all character built through anything else but mindless consumerism. Even if the AI tech isnt capable of replacing every worthwhile creative or social activity, it will soon, and you will be forced to accept that
You will have no skills
You will have an underdeveloped brain
You will be dependent on high tech to do everything for you (look at young ppl not being able to go anywhere without google maps guidance)
You will not be able to hold a conversation with another human
You will not create bonds
You will not create anything, because whats the point? The AI can do it!
You will consume in your personal pod
This is the techno-utopia techbros and pajeets want
Ted K was fkin right about everything, and im saying this as a programmer who loved computers for most of his life

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6299911

>>6299763
it doesn't surprise me that it outperforms most humans, seeing as it's stealing from the best artists both living and dead, how can anyone compete unless they themselves are one of the select few who rank alongside those? it blows so many subpar artists out of the water by raising the standards to such a degree, ai will cull the deadwood, only those humans who can legitimately compete with it will remain in the game, and that's a good thing

>> No.6299915

>>6299911
>only those humans who can legitimately compete with it will remain in the game
and how long will they stay in the game for?
what of the new generation of artists? No more innovation? just old artists slowly dropping off until only AI remains? sounds like hell.

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>>6299909
>Remember lads
>This stuff is heavily funded by the biggest corporations in the world, and even by gov organizations
>There are bots/shills/demoralizers everywhere endorsing this tech and shoving it into your face
>You MUST understand that this is not about revolutionazing art or even helping current artists
>AI art, actually, AI in general is about making sure that you feel no pride in yourself, no pride in being able to create something with time, effort and dedication. Its about making sure that others around you dont pay any attention to what you do, because the AI can do just as well. Its about dehumanization and ruining social relationships. Thats their endgoal, to remove any and all character built through anything else but mindless consumerism. Even if the AI tech isnt capable of replacing every worthwhile creative or social activity, it will soon, and you will be forced to accept that
>You will have no skills
>You will have an underdeveloped brain
>You will be dependent on high tech to do everything for you (look at young ppl not being able to go anywhere without google maps guidance)
>You will not be able to hold a conversation with another human
>You will not create bonds
>You will not create anything, because whats the point? The AI can do it!
>You will consume in your personal pod
>This is the techno-utopia techbros and pajeets want
>Ted K was fkin right about everything, and im saying this as a programmer who loved computers for most of his life
Spoken like a true cattle that will slurp anything

>> No.6299920

I use google. I love my i-phone. Apps are great. I don't care if Visa sells my info. Verizon selling my data. Whatever. A.I. art ... wait ... what ? Civilization is threatened. We need to ban it. Get the lawyers to stop this !!!

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6299921

>>6299887
>The fact that will never be able to create the most generic and uninspired designs
well that simply just isn't true at all, i'd say the exact opposite is it's strong point in fact

>> No.6299925

>>6299920
curious

>> No.6299928

>>6299915
i think it raises the bar, i don't see how that's a bad thing, besides if you can't directly compete with it you can always become a prompt monkey

>> No.6299932

>>6299915
sounds like music

>> No.6299935

>>6299916
well, that didnt disprove anything i just said

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>>6299911
>it blows so many subpar artists out of the water by raising the standards to such a degree, ai will cull the deadwood, only those humans who can legitimately compete with it will remain in the game, and that's a good thi-

>> No.6300168

>>6293390
>All art are artificial art.
yes, the the word art itself is derived from artifice / artificial

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