/Trad/ Traditional Art General

[Anonymous No.6291473]

Post artwork you’ve made in traditional media for critique and feedback

[Anonymous No.6291498]

First.
Warmup for today. Would post a painting but all the recent ones are in progress right now

[Anonymous No.6291636]

>>6291498
This is quite good;the hatching sells it.

Her left hand is a bit clumsy looking, feels like it's in a glove. Facial features (the mouth mainly) could be clearer.

The little bit of arm behind the baseball bat could have been avoided (either have the bat fully overlap the bottom of the forearm, or make the arm/forearm clearly visible).

There's a bit of symmetry issue at the top part of the baseball bat; the top bit is clearly off

But again, gg bro

[Anonymous No.6292129]

Anyone else browse /p/ to get reference photos to paint?
I just realized today that I can get tons of high quality original reference by checking that board every once in a while, and half the time they're even composed for you.
Better than google images I figure.

[Anonymous No.6292166]

I know i have a problem with proportions but i believe this looks ok

[Anonymous No.6292185]

>>6292129
i always love the architecture threads on /p/

[Anonymous No.6292241]

Im too tired to finish this

[Anonymous No.6292314]

>>6292241
Finnish it, looks lit as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6292450]

>>6292129
Nope; /hr/ has a few excellent threads, lost in a desert of coom

[Anonymous No.6292466]

>>6291498
i recognise that reference

[Anonymous No.6292511]

>>6291473
Obsolete. In this capitalistic world, whatever can be produced more of the same quality will get the advantage

[Anonymous No.6292639]

>Obsolete. In this capitalistic world, whatever can be produced more of the same quality will get the advantage

[Anonymous No.6292651]

Maybe a bit too much white space in the top-left/bottom-right diagonal

[Anonymous No.6292793]

>>6291473
Quick beach from my head

[Anonymous No.6292899]

>>6292793
love the stringy (?) brushwork in the clouds

[Anonymous No.6292915]

>>6292651
Visually interesting

>>6292511
Capitalism has little to do with mass-production/consumption (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capitalism).). Besides, our current economic system barely has anything to do with genuine capitalism either, as they are too much incentive to prevent a truly unregulated/free market.

Let alone the fact that fine (traditional) art is a luxury item (yes they are exceptions).

Capitalism isn't intrinsically bad. The way people abuse it is.

[Anonymous No.6292943]

Nice cock>>6291473

[Anonymous No.6293086]

>>6292899
Thanks I painted a horse today

[Anonymous No.6293269]

>>6293086
Kinda like your loose style! That impasto in some places is nice too.

Only thing that kinda bugs me about the horse painting is the repetitive strokes in the grass.

Do you usually leave your works at that stage or do you sometimes develop more details in some places?

[Anonymous No.6293298]

>>6293269
Sometimes I develop them more not lately though I had a long stretch of multi layer more complex paintings but right now I’m trying to just make really quick cheaper stuff for the holiday season

[Anonymous No.6293518]

>>6292639
>Why do you chose to be ugly instead of helping, In whatever small way you can.?

[Anonymous No.6294261]

>>6292793
teaching an art class, elementary level
we'll be doing pastels these coming weeks
I am a painter so a year or so ago I asked you for help in pastel materials
wanted to say thanks, and while my students obviously won't be drawing nekkid ladies, I know they'll have fun

[Anonymous No.6294383]

>>6294261
I would maybe try to find some child safe pastels? Maybe almost chalk? Soft pastels are a huge health hazard I’m not sure you’d want to have those around children. Things I’m sure you’ve thought of just make sure everything’s above board. It must be hard teaching art in school with how many health hazards are involved in the most basic art supplies.

[Anonymous No.6294388]

>>6294383
Other than that that’s great I think an art education should involve more different art supplies as opposed to strictly “projects”. Kids can surely have a lot of fun just trying watercolors and acrylics and charcoal, you’re doing a great service to those kids!

[Anonymous No.6294418]

>>6294383
>>6294388

yes, I have to get AP student approved pastels. I'm getting oil pastels for that very reason: less dust. I myself had asthma trouble with regular pastels when I was in high school

They seem to enjoy it. I make it clear to them & the parents that our class is less of an 'arts and crafts projects' class and more of an 'actually learn art' class.

I'm lucky in that I have a lot of freedom as far as what I teach. We do everything, from dip pens to acrylic paint. No oils though--too much work on my part lol.

every art class I had until college (and even then, some) was dog shit. The best art classes I ever had the instructor gave us tools, showed us how to use them, and had us practice, so that's what I do. Thanks for your kind words!

[Anonymous No.6294493]

>>6291498
I like it! how long did it take? it's very detailed for a warm up, do you usually warm up like this?

[Anonymous No.6294530]

What are some good brands for watercolor materials? Bonus for portability. I usually do oil for trad and have tried casein but don’t like the feel of it. Sketch is by rogner5th.

[Anonymous No.6294590]

>>6294530
See >>6292445

[Anonymous No.6294692]

How do you get started? Any tricks to warming up and easing into it day to day? like any exercises or habits you do every day before you start drawing or painting? Or do you just get straight to doing really ambitious finished pieces. It feels so overwhelming, the blank paper-

[Anonymous No.6294826]

>>6294692
Have an idea. Make a few sketches/studies to know where you're going. Literal warm up (circles, straight lines)

[Anonymous No.6294849]

>>6294590
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.6295547]

Frank benson study wip

[Anonymous No.6295739]

>>6295547
looks a lot like sorolla

[Anonymous No.6295868]

What are my odds of selling this type of trad creature art? Any tips on improoving? It's still unfinished.

[Anonymous No.6295905]

>>6295868
Did you do that 3D Nomad sculpt?

[Anonymous No.6296103]

>>6295905
nope

[Anonymous No.6296366]

What do you guys think? Should I work more on this and do you think I could get potential buyers? I don't have experience selling art.

[Anonymous No.6296464]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6296466]

>>6296464
I like it. How long did it take you?

[Anonymous No.6296471]

>>6296466
Around 15 hours. I'm very slow I know.

[Anonymous No.6296546]

>>6296464
The pencil strokes support the texture of the sweater very nicely!
Not sure about the rest though, would be nice if it looked a bit more cleanly defined – but I don't have enough rendering experience with pencil myself to give you any meaningful guide.

[Anonymous No.6296613]

>>6296464
There is no weight to it and no depth, I can tell when you drew this you didn't envisioned the subject you drew as a 3D object so it feels completely flat

[Anonymous No.6296754]

I want some good knee studies

[Anonymous No.6296776]

>>6292129
>>>/wg/
plenty of great references when it comes to environments and interiors

[Anonymous No.6296777]

>>6296471
speed will come with time

>>6296366
try and see; with low-enough price, you should always be able to get buyers

>>6295547
great color handling

[Anonymous No.6296883]

>>6296613
wdym? Can you post an example?

[Anonymous No.6297070]

>>6296777
>try and see; with low-enough price, you should always be able to get buyers
Any advice on how I can improve the painting further before selling? I'm also going to have to research into varnishes.

[Anonymous No.6297201]

I've got some oil paintings on cardboard and paper I might try to mount on panels. Can anyone recommend some good glue?
>>6296464
Try some lost edges and line weight variety to spice it up.
>>6296366
sure, especially if you frame it and get good pictures.

[Anonymous No.6297388]

>>6297070
Well, it lacks a bit in readability in the foreground;the shapes around the sun are a bit weird.

>>6297201
Buy a book on framing/study framing techniques. Glues they use tend to be reversible ones, like starch glue, but they also use gummed kraft.

Even for hacking around, learning a few tips from people for whom this has been a job for decades is worthwhile

[Anonymous No.6297399]

>>6297388
shapes like the clouds in the sky or on the ground? I will see if I can touch it up more.
>>6297201
......It is standard practice to sell a painting with a frame? I did not know that... Well I do not know many things. I still need to learn how to do a proper varnish. By the way the texture on that looks awesome. Great brushstrokes on the grassy grounds.

[Anonymous No.6297422]

>>6297399
>selling paintings in frames
I’m dead serious, if you set that precedent for buyers early on you will never get to retrace it back. It’s what will always be expected. And frames are really expensive. Same with varnishing. Sell the raw paintings let people do with them what they want, all buyers really want is for it to already be on wood stretchers so they can frame it themselves

[Anonymous No.6297440]

>>6297422
So you mean to only frame it for show, and when it comes to actually selling it I shouldn't bother with a varnish? I've never bought a painting before or sold one so...

[Anonymous No.6297621]

Here´s a picture of me and my rupturist work.

I am probably the chaddest painter that ever posted on /ic

[Anonymous No.6297630]

>>6297621
No anon...you're chilenean

[Anonymous No.6297633]

>>6291473
Working on a flower collage. Not done with the first one yet but I’m excited to see how it’ll turn out

[Anonymous No.6297635]

>>6291498
Sick as fuck. Love the gradation happening in the hair

[Anonymous No.6297636]

>>6297630

how many do you know that have painted anime with oil paint? Warhol ain´t got shit on me!

[Anonymous No.6297688]

>>6297621
>chilean
>chaddest
top kek

[Anonymous No.6297980]

>>6297688
Don't be jealous my friend

[Anonymous No.6297998]

>>6296883
Sorry for the late reply but what I meant is that the lines you draw are flat because you don't really grasp the volume of the object you're trying to depict. Here look at the image I posted, the couture lines are very deliberately chosen and are just there to show the volume and mass of the head while the mimic is expressed with no lines at all which makes the face unbelievable expressive and soft. Obviously you're a beginner and nobody can't expect you to draw like that but since you asked for feedback I thought this might help you.

TLDR: when you draw a object always try to visualize the it's depth and volume

[Anonymous No.6298001]

>>6297422
I take photos with and w/o the frame, buyers can pay the extra for the frame if they want.
The really big downside is I have a mountainous landscape of wobbling piles of frames in my house now, as I paint on many different sizes of panel and canvas.

[Anonymous No.6298019]

>>6297422
varnishing isnt expensive nigga wtf, up the price of your paintings its cents on the dollar

[Anonymous No.6298042]

>>6297399
thanks. just get some Gamvar gloss or satin and let oil paint be oil paint. It's not hard.
>>6297422
expecting the buyer to varnish themselves is pretty crazy desu

[Anonymous No.6298100]

>>6297998
I still don't understand, sorry. I don't think drawing a young woman with those lines would work. I think the guy is just good at drawing, so maybe the 3D thing comes naturally with experience?

Also I don't like claroscuro because it feels like a cheap technique to impress normies. Raphael didn't do that and his drawings look 3D.

What's the name of the author?

[Anonymous No.6299264]

>>6291473
Hey guys, I'm drawing with some monochrome watercolors for art-school, what should I paint?

[Anonymous No.6299273]

>>6299264
>what should I paint?
emma watson

[Anonymous No.6299315]

>>6299273
Alright thanks :)

[Anonymous No.6299320]

>>6298100
>I don't think drawing a young woman with those lines would work.
wtf lol

[Anonymous No.6299357]

>>6291473
We're doing scratchboard art in art-school now, what shoukd I draw guys?
I didn't get to do the Emma Watson one.

[Anonymous No.6299393]

>>6299264
The important thing is to have series, like get a subject that interest you, and make 5 paintings about it and you do that with your entire portfolio. Try not to do cliche things like pretty girls, dog/cats, your shoes etc. The more unique the better

[Anonymous No.6299447]

>>6299393
I see thank you! My current theme is Mr. Bateman from American Psycho :) everyone is looking at me weirdly now haha

[Anonymous No.6299498]

>>6299447
>popculture
That can be one theme I guess but you should do more stuff, the idea behind the portfolio is to demonstrate to the profs that you have an artistic interest and have at least a minimum of artistic skills. The more the better

[Anonymous No.6299506]

>>6299498
Okay man, thanks, I will do more variety then
Why am I so bad at painting and scratchboard cutting guys

[Anonymous No.6299528]

>>6299506
oh dude how old are you? that shit is juvenile as fuck.
>Pokemon
kick that out immediately or at least make something more unique than a badly drawn copy of Pikachu
If you want to do a charcoal series than look up artists who use that medium and try to understand how they work with it. Or look up some youtube tutorials. Just to be clear the issue here is not that you obviously are a beg the issue is that you clearly just spend 5 minutes shitting out these drawings with no thoughts put into it, that's a grantee for your portfolio to be immediately dropped

[Anonymous No.6299540]

>>6297621
Oh look esdeathanon shows himself to the whole world. He lied about having asian genes. Ah, typical thirdworlder mentality.

[Anonymous No.6299545]

>>6299528
Wait, there seems to be a misznderstanding, this isn't for my portfolio or anything, this was just some work I did in class. I'm already in art-school kek, plus I'm 23. Also this wasn't charcoal, it was black watercolor.
I'm the most beg of them all and it felt so shitty being the worst out if my class, I think I almost cried. The joke is, this isn't even my main medium, but so isn't everyone else's. And I still made it that bad (I spent 2 hours on them)
Plus, some chich dissed Christian Bale by saying he's an arrogant cunt. I almost got crazy

[Anonymous No.6299549]

>>6299545
>Wait, there seems to be a misznderstanding, this isn't for my portfolio or anything, this was just some work I did in class. I'm already in art-school kek, plus I'm 23.
This is horrifying.

[Anonymous No.6299552]

>>6299549
>This is horrifying
Which part is? Lmao

[Anonymous No.6299564]

>>6299552
no offense nigga, I'm just surprise that someone who goes to university to learn art is painting Pikachu and Patrick Bateman in class to trigger some whore who made a stupid comment. This stuff sounds more like behavior from a kid who is still in high school.

[Anonymous No.6299572]

>>6299564
Dude, what else am I supposed to draw? We could all choose our own topics, plus I'm not taking art school seriously anymore, because they don't really teach us anything, it's a fucking scam, and I will drop out at the end of this semester anyway because it's such a waste of time. But since I'm already paying for this semester, why not enjoy it? So I will draw whatever the fuck I want and want to see the reactions of my classmates. Which are hopefully positive, because I want to make them laugh. I guess it doesn't have to trigger anyone, I could also make more meaningful art, but yeah.

[Anonymous No.6299577]

>>6299572
but isn't the point of these classes to make something to the best of your abilities and than discuss it later with everybody else to analyze where you could improve? That's the only good thing about art school, having other people judge your shit, it can be harsh but it helps a lot in maturing your taste

[Anonymous No.6299587]

>>6299577
Yeah you're right, even with these meme-tier drawings, I got some technical critique and compliments, like using less contrast and how they like the silver parts of the scratchboard. Shit, I forgot to give the others useful critiques as well. I guess I don't feel qualified enough as a beg for that,but I will do it anyway next time.

Also, I did actually do my best, I really wanted those drawings to come out great, but they didn't turn out the way I wanted to.
I'm not taking art-school seriously, in the sense that I'm more invested in my own private projects, but I still give it my all when drawing at those art-classes,because what else am I going to do there?

Thank you for your input. :)

[Anonymous No.6299621]

>>6299506
>Why am I so bad at painting and scratchboard cutting guys
i'd say if you want to improve the scratchboards, try for some mid tones with cross-hatching, you have the black and you have the white but they're lacking the tones in-between which are necessary to represent the form

[Anonymous No.6299624]

>>6299506
kek, maybe if we were in the same school we could have been friends. Don't load your brush with so much water when you're doing watercolor for the finer details, it makes it more blurry. Be more mindful of your edges, I think right now you just need to focus more on control for watercolor as some parts seem to bleed into each other unintentionally. For scratchboard you can do more by scratching based on values. Try showing a broader range of values by varying your hatches. Don't be afraid to do more to experiment and learn.

[Anonymous No.6299697]

>>6299621
Thanks man, I appreciate the comment, however I don't like doing scratchboard art, and the only way I could force myself to do them is by drawing some memes like I showed lmaooo
But yeah, to do the middle tones in-between, I should only scratch a little

[Anonymous No.6299702]

>>6299624
Thanks man, I think we could have been friends too. None of my lefty classmates even found it funny, it only triggered them lmao, as I somehow expected.
And yes, I will take all you've said into consideration the next time I'll work with this sort of medium, but I won't promise and don't know if I'll ever be using that medium ever again.
THANK YOU!!

[Anonymous No.6299720]

>>6299697
>>6299702
I forgot to tell that I actually draw digitally on my Wacom

[Anonymous No.6300668]

>>6297201
I love this one brian, do you paint outdoors?

[Anonymous No.6300669]

>>6300668
Wait it isn't brian my bad