/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.6287342]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>6268122

[Anonymous No.6287351]

is Boichi too advanced for a beginner to copy and learn from?

[Anonymous No.6287353]

Any critique on this character design?

[Toguro Says: No.6287425]

>>6287342
This art style, along with the otaku filth that peddle the shows with this style needs to go extinct.

[Anonymous No.6287441]

How do you practice drawing full bodies, do you draw the entire body repeatedly?

[Anonymous No.6287444]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3MxkMIAeuf36McqpjrpzvttMkaYFAIP_
I'm getting back into this after stopping for a bit. It's Akihito Yoshitomi and he doesn't say anything. It's like Loomis for weebs, perfect for this general.

[Anonymous No.6287446]

>>6287441
I don't know but check out the post above>>6287444
This is literally what I'm trying.

[Anonymous No.6287447]

>>6287441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrPi92DnMis

[Anonymous No.6287516]

>>6287444
Not that anon but I guess I'll review him again since I've never seen this playlist.

[Anonymous No.6287543]

>>6287444
I kinda lost most of it by now because I don't draw regularly enough, but back then I had made quick original drawings/studies of everything in that playlist by following it all and it ended up being pretty worth it.

[Anonymous No.6287549]

>>6287342
>actual trannime in the op
its so tiresome

[Anonymous No.6287577]

>>6287549
this is not your thread. Go back to what smelly butthole you came from loser.

[Anonymous No.6287590]

>>6287549
bridget isnt trans, he identifies as male

[Anonymous No.6287644]

>>6287549
you should go to twitter to complain faggot
bridget will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.6287682]

I tried to make the same character in different angles and poses
the hopeless bottom-left one is supposed to be a high angle where the face looks at the viewer but I couldn't do better with my current skill level

[Anonymous No.6287691]

>>6287682
You are on the right path to become the next eromangaka

[Anonymous No.6287692]

>>6287549
hello tourist

[Anonymous No.6287711]

>>6287682
just needed to push back the lower body a little and the black of the pupil up anon (lazy edit, about to go to sleep)

Really juicy drawings tho anon

[Anonymous No.6287731]

>>6287711
thanks friendo

[Anonymous No.6287754]

>>6287682
are these entirely from imagination?
pretty good stuff

[Anonymous No.6287768]

>>6287754
most are from imagination
I used a reference for the back pose

[Anonymous No.6287975]

Rakugaki

[Anonymous No.6288086]

How do I learn to draw backgrounds and environments? I tried to draw this but my brain is shitting itself trying to process all the individual palm leaves

[Anonymous No.6288095]

>>6288086
No one actually looks at individual leaves when looking at this picture, so why would you want to draw (so many) individual leaves?
Art is about beautifying reality. You need to simplify, especially if that image is meant to have a girl as the focal point in the middle.

[Anonymous No.6288099]

>>6288095
How do I learn how to simplify without it looking bad? Is it just copying other artwork again?

[Anonymous No.6288138]

>>6288099
Taking a look at history will give you clue about this process at a grand scale. Narrow the scale and it means studying artists you like from the past decades and how they go about simplifying things themselves.

>Is it just copying other artwork again?
What does "copying" mean to you?
You need to observe and think. Have you asked yourself what is your goal with that beach background you posted for example?
Art is a mental journey and you need to make it fun and not pressure yourself with unreal expectations and cripple your mind with buzzwords which you don't comprehend the true essence of.

[Anonymous No.6288476]

Are there artists similar to Naoki Ikushima's style?

[Anonymous No.6288483]

>>6288138
Thanks, I had a think today and realised outside of drawing cute girls I don't know much about anything else in art I like. I guess I'll go visit some art galleries or something and do some research. I am getting tired of drawing girls posing in white voids.

[Anonymous No.6288556]

I tried

[Anonymous No.6288579]

>>6288556
It looks nice. If you make some small improvements it'll look better.

[Anonymous No.6289062]

is there any more detailed guide on how to go about construction the way krenz does breaking up all the body parts into 5-6 sided objects?

[Anonymous No.6289342]

lazy ass question but any good resources with anime/manga images that heavily use foreshortening? I'm looking for inspo myself and I have found some (mostly shonen manga) but I ask here anyway just in case
foreshortening is hard and it's harder to do with pure lineart without light and color

[Anonymous No.6289346]

>>6289062
>construction the way krenz does breaking up all the body parts into 5-6 sided objects?
do you have his course?

[Anonymous No.6289365]

>>6288086
think in shapes

[Anonymous No.6289439]

>>6289342
>manga
Air Gear

[Anonymous No.6289523]

I don't know where the left cat ear should be help

[Anonymous No.6289651]

I've been thinking, how come there are so few western artists who draw in an anime style?
Memes aside, it is a clear style that can be studied and reproduced, and it would be absolutely retarded to think that race had anything to do with your ability to draw in a specific style.
With how long anime has been mainstream in the west, how come there aren't more western mangakas?

[Anonymous No.6289653]

>>6289523
My nigga, how can you draw hands this well and have near inexistent hip construction? What kind of psycho are you?

[Anonymous No.6289661]

I'm giving this another try tonight.

[Anonymous No.6289662]

>>6289653
Fixing your shit as you draw is part of the process

[Anonymous No.6289667]

>>6289439
thanks

[Anonymous No.6289896]

>>6289651
Because nobody need a western mangaka. Story and composition challenges of good manga are much harder than you think, you wouldn't get away with style copied alone. And nobody need western anime illustrators also, with market oversaturated with more cheap and talented japanese students. The consumers also do not need non-japanese mangaka.
And you wouldn't be able to sell yourself even as NSFW artist, as western coomers are brainwashed to think "anime == pedo", and western hentai coomers has explicit rule in every single community that "only japanese, korean and chinese artists allowed".

[Anonymous No.6289949]

>>6289661
are you doing this by eye or some other method? (the whole picture I mean, not just the eye)

[Anonymous No.6289953]

>friend used to be supportive
>no longer cares about my art
>says i've just been doing the same thing over and over for years
bros... how do i improve and get to something like this anon's level >>6287682

[Anonymous No.6289985]

is the best way to improve is to be obsessed with one good artist and try to replicate the art style?

[Anonymous No.6289989]

>>6289953
Post your work, we can't give any non-generic advice otherwise bwo

[Anonymous No.6289991]

>>6289989
i posted in the /beg/ thread the other day or something
>>6286600

right now im just copying drawings to get some hours in and get some ideas, but i don't do much original stuff right now

[Anonymous No.6289994]

>>6289953
Art friends are a trap. Your friend considered you as a trap. He/she left you because the skill gap between the two of you has widened immensely. Your friend sees you as ngmi. You failed as a friend to reach his level despite him/her encouraging you to be gmi but NOOOOOOO you just had to draw what the average /i/ user draws. Maybe if you aimed for something higher like Michaelangelo your friend would respect you more. This is your fault. Can you fix it?

[Anonymous No.6289996]

>>6289949
I've tried the accuracy method but I kinda made a mess with the lines and i've got confused.
I've tried to decompose it but couldn't make head or toes of it.
So I tried to eyeball it, i'm unsatisfied by it but also shows off i'm missing some sense of spacing and proportions, which i'm glad i can notice.
If anyone has any tip on deconstructing this, or how to use the accuracy method, i'd be very glad.

[Anonymous No.6290005]

>>6289994
>can you fix it
no.. i would sooner stop talking about art with them
not to say i won't try and improve, though. it's just that they're assuming i want to be pro or something and literally told me "art can't be just a hobby" which is super lame

[Anonymous No.6290089]

>>6289953
Then stop acting like a fucking weirdo to your art friends

[Anonymous No.6290092]

>>6290089
fuck u werent u going to sleep

[Anonymous No.6290135]

>>6290005
>"art can't be just a hobby"
Your friend sounds like a dumbass to be honest. I have friends like that too who think doing anything that requires effort is a waste of time while they spend all their free time playing video games and watching netflix. The concept of doing something creative for fun instead of just consooming seems incomprehensible to some people.

[Anonymous No.6290157]

thoughts? somethings still don't feel right

[Anonymous No.6290215]

>>6287682
Cute!
My only concern would be your pelvis/ribcage relationship seems to break down when you draw more complicated poses from imagination.
Pose number two (peace signs) looks like it's stretching the limits of believability, there's a 90 degree lateral tilt between her pelvis and ribcage and I just don't buy it. There's no way she can move her hips that much to the side. I think this may be a situation where overlapping the pelvis and ribcage more could help, I notice when I draw from imagination I always tend to draw the ribcage and pelvis further apart than they should be when perspective should cause big overlaps.
Pose number three (top down), her pelvis is lacking depth. We're looking at it from top down meaning a lot of the top plane should be visible, however yours is very thin making it look like she's got no ass.
The back pose you referenced is great and doesn't have that problem.

[Anonymous No.6290230]

>>6289996
I found the accuracy method to be a useful tool to gauge distances, proportions and angles, but it's just a tool.
You still need to learn proper construction and how to build your figures out of actual 3D forms, and the accuracy method doesn't teach you any of that.

[Anonymous No.6290345]

>>6290230
I unironically never thought of actually making a sphere as a guideline for the eyes, i'll try it out tomorrow, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.6290407]

Accuracy is nice but lets say I learn to copy well enough to not need it anymore or to be able to do it quickly. What next?

[Anonymous No.6290409]

>>6290407
Also how do I build my "visual library?" I don't want to just be a human copy machine.

[Anonymous No.6290410]

Do weebs use rulers to construct their backgrounds or what?

[Anonymous No.6290421]

>>6290345
Everything that makes anime appealing is shorthand for actual things that happen in the anatomical body. (Except chins from bottom-up, somehow they still haven't figured out how to do that.)
Problems arise when beginners copy the shorthand, but don't understand the underlying intent behind it, which comes from construction.
Take eye, mouth, and nose placement, for example. It's a nightmare for any beginner, because you place those without rhyme or logic. But once you understand the forms of the face, and how the perspective warps them as they twist, tilt, and turn away from the viewer, placing those features becomes a breeze.

[Anonymous No.6290422]

[Anonymous No.6290427]

>>6290422
uwu

[Anonymous No.6290457]

>>6289996
i would've decomposed it like this. idk if it's correct since i'm still a beginner but it helps me understand the anatomy

[Anonymous No.6290461]

>>6290457
anon ears dont grow on the back of the head. Move it to near the middle of the side circle and ur gucci

[Anonymous No.6290463]

>>6290410
>Do weebs use rulers to construct their backgrounds or what?
just photobash/trace backgrounds if it's not the focus of your picture

[Anonymous No.6290465]

>>6290457
is this loomis or some other method? I feel so lost all I can do is copy shit okay-ish but I'm stuck at that level. not the guy you replied to

[Anonymous No.6290474]

>>6290463
If it is?

[Anonymous No.6290475]

>>6290474
legit using vanishing points. It's okay to use rulers honestly.

[Anonymous No.6290525]

>>6290461
Totally agree, but that part I just traced from the original image for the sake of a straight/unaltered decomposition. If I were the original artist, I would've done as you said.
>>6290465
It's mostly a patchwork of dozens of other construction methods I've seen from watching other artists' processes.

[Anonymous No.6290527]

Does anybody have a clue how I can include eyes in my artstyle that are more anime like? I tried to make them anime like but then dont look right and when I draw them simpler they look out of place. Maybe someone can try to draw the eyes?

[Anonymous No.6290529]

sus

[Anonymous No.6290585]

Study

[Anonymous No.6290598]

>>6290527

[Anonymous No.6290749]

Houk1se1 lineart brush(SAI only)
https://houk1se1.fanbox.cc/posts/4484059 (free plan)
He use the default pencil and brush for coloring.

[Anonymous No.6290786]

>>6290585
cool
add clarity and details on the face and it can pass as a rkgk

[Anonymous No.6290807]

>>6290407
>What next?
perspective <--> 3d shapes
>Also how do I build my "visual library?"
by copying (usually copying simple shapes and/or focusing something in particular?

[Anonymous No.6290812]

will eo58 stream today?

[Anonymous No.6290828]

>>6290598
lol you actually did a better job at constructing the eyes than the original, good work anon

[Anonymous No.6290832]

>>6290465
idiot

[Anonymous No.6290850]

>>6290457
This kinda make it clearer, thanks anon.
Also it shows off that I was right about feeling that the ear position was off.

>>6290421
I actually agree, and my problem is probably given by the fact that I still think of things being flat instead of 3d objects. I'll work extra hard, anon!

[Anonymous No.6290915]

can someone recommend tutorial or book or anything that will help me with color and stuff? I seriously don't get it.

[Anonymous No.6290930]

>>6290915
Not the only book you'll need, and definitely not the best starting point, but James Gurney's "color and light" will absolutely be essential if you aim to do full illustrations, because color *is* light and that book goes over the various lighting phenomena you'll encounter in the real world and need to reproduce in your paintings.
Besides that, you need to learn how to shade (which will require understanding construction), and learn how to understand local color (which I think James Gurney might get into), and that should cover most elements of coloring.
Of course, that won't help you come up with pleasing color palettes, that's where color theory and film/master studies come in.
Good luck anon, there's a ton of shit you need to learn to render like a professional but it's all things you can master individually relatively quickly. And I hope someone recommends you a good book.

[Anonymous No.6290994]

>>6290930
I'm trying to learn from LACK by slowing his video down and I still don't understand 90% of what he's doing.

[Anonymous No.6290995]

Do you have to learn construction...

[Anonymous No.6291093]

i feel like only lately have people been emphasizing artist studies, i know it's always been suggested for classical artists but idk I feel like I'm improving so much faster doing this than when I was grinding boxes and studies of photographs, though I think both help a lot

[Anonymous No.6291103]

Posting garbage because I have nothing else

[Anonymous No.6291105]

>>6291103

[Anonymous No.6291125]

>>6290995
No, don't do anything at all and just keep playing cs:go instead.

[Anonymous No.6291126]

>>6290525
>>6290807
I see. Been avoiding construction like a coward, time to get into it and stop being a bitch. Loomis is just... moonspeak to me but I'll try it again.

>>6290832
why?

[Anonymous No.6291296]

Are sketches fine to copy from? Stuff like this?

[Anonymous No.6291297]

Not exactly on topic, but since ppl have been posting that girl from edgerunners, I actually went and pirated it and have watched the first episode.
It's not as good as the trailer, but better than some of the clips suggested it would be.
The English voice acting is hot garbage. I'm not an uberweeb who insists on the japanese, in fact for something like this is prefer not having the distraction of subtitles, but good damn that American actors suck.
Also, there's a lot of lazy filler "animation" that for as hard as ppl are sucking off this series, I expected better.
Although I've been watching animae since before many of you were born, in not really an animae guy.
I am here to learn to draw it tho, present post excepted.

[Anonymous No.6291303]

>>6291296
You are a faggot if you are looking for permission to copy anything. I can copy your mom if I wanted to.

[Anonymous No.6291304]

>>6291303
I'm not asking for permission, I'm wondering if it's beneficial to do it or if I should focus on finished works.

[Anonymous No.6291307]

>>6291297
Not your blog, nobody asked.

[Anonymous No.6291385]

>>6291307
Didn't you just call>>6291304
a nigger for asking for permission?!?

[Anonymous No.6291657]

>>6288556
could not stand the way you drew the boobs, also the chicken arms. I 'fixed' it in a shitty drawing mobile app, couldn't make it cleaner if I tried.

[Anonymous No.6291658]

>>6291657
(missing pic related)

[Anonymous No.6291685]

>>6291658
This doesn't look much better. The junction of her upper and lower arms is more anatomically correct, but her breasts are still too far apart and her arms are too short and too thick, especially at the wrists.

[Anonymous No.6291871]

>>6291297
>The English voice acting is hot garbage. I'm not an uberweeb who insists on the japanese, in fact for something like this is prefer not having the distraction of subtitles
Leave this website. Fucking tourist.

[Anonymous No.6291878]

>>6291871
Make me, nigger. I was reading subtitles when your mom was a new whore.

[Anonymous No.6291883]

>>6287549

[Anonymous No.6291979]

>>6291878
>Imaishi and Yoshinari made a new anime, guess I'll watch it with English dubs because I'm a fat uncultured burger
That you're in your 40s doesn't change the fact that you're akin to a pathetic tourist with execrable taste and brain power, anon.

[Anonymous No.6291993]

>>6291871
I remember being an elitist faggot over sub vs. dub.
More than 10 years ago when I was still browsing /a/ in high school.

[Anonymous No.6292006]

>>6291993
Stop objectivfying reality to justify your own living experience and pyw instead.

[Anonymous No.6292009]

>>6292006
>Stop objectivfying reality to justify your own living experience
The fuck do you even mean by this? What?

[Anonymous No.6292016]

>>6291883
based admin

[Anonymous No.6292022]

>>6291979
>you're a tourist because you don't consooom anime like a retard

[Anonymous No.6292027]

>>6291883
it was literally confirmed that bridget is a tranny now

[Anonymous No.6292028]

>>6292009
Anon you have no personality and no thinking of your own, everything you spout can be reduced to "hey I'm old and used to kinda do that back then but I don't anymore, so it's weird that you do it uh?". It seems completely alien to you that people are invested into certain hobbies and passions at an intricate level, or even are learning or have learned Japanese on their own, because your consciousness level is always attuned to what is objectively going on in the world, thus deefening any semblance of subjective experience you could possibly muster.
The thing is somewhere within yourself you are very much aware of this, because in your very first post you were reflexively arguing before anyone had said anything: "b-but I'm not an uber-whatever", "I-I'm old now", or changing the spelling of such a simple word like "anime" just to try and dissociate yourself from our own internal contradiction.
Now you want to learn how to draw because deep down you've realized this, that after having spent decades parroting the world around you, you're left with no creativity and nothing unique of your own.

So take a second to assess this paradox within yourself and drop that pathetic misplaced pride because you're nothing but embarrassing to look at.

[Anonymous No.6292032]

>>6292028
I'm not reading all of that tripe and I don't know why you think I would. Learn to make your point in 1-2 sentences.

[Anonymous No.6292050]

>>6292032
Deflecting and trying to grab the last word as a way to save your ego is the only thing you can muster, yet we know you're the one anxiously waiting for (You) because you can't help knowing we're right.

[Anonymous No.6292051]

from imagination

[Anonymous No.6292071]

>>6292050
That is a weird assumption to make out of the single post I've made
>knowing we're right
>we're
You talking about a tulpa or something?

[Anonymous No.6292094]

>>6287590
>>6287644
>>6291883
>>6292016

[Anonymous No.6292097]

>>6292027
>confirmed tranny
As in "identify as".
Even then, the point is anyone fapping to female bodies wouldn't want a dickboy (vs dickgirl) to show up in rating:e 1girl search. There *are* 1girl (and futanari if still has dick) posts when it visually applies.

[Anonymous No.6292105]

>>6292097
Explain trap/femboyshit

[Anonymous No.6292110]

>>6292027
>>6292097
desu the tranny bridget thing is such an obvious, gross pandering ploy. anyone in japan just still calls him femboy/otokonoko and he's still tagged/drawn as such. just ignore these bad retcons. for all intents and purposes he's a femboy

[Anonymous No.6292127]

>>6292110
That's cool, except porn tags and literal whos don't dictate canon. Next you'll say Daisuke was "forced" to turn Bridget trans.

[Anonymous No.6292134]

>>6292110
>anyone in japan just still calls him femboy/otokonoko and he's still tagged/drawn as such
Meanwhile people who actually play the game accept her new identity. The "lol it's funny because it looks like a girl but has a penis" act is not ok anymore and will get you banned from any reputable space.
Have fun being stuck in 2002 <3

[Anonymous No.6292242]

>>6292134
well keep being mad that he'll never actually be acknowledged as a girl online, weirdo

[Anonymous No.6292247]

>>6292127
Whatever stupid reasons they had I'll never understand. But the story is so bad and nonsensically out of character for him, that it's super easy to disregard it and deem it non-canon. Either way, 99% of people will only ever hear about bridget because of fanart, and 1% may actually play the game. So the public perception of him will always end up as a boy. Sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.6292255]

>>6292242
they have been.
>pixiv
>gelbooru
>danbooru
>sankaku
>rule34
>nhentai
>hitomi
>sadpanda
And a bunch of other sites still tag him as a boy and they've been whining about it for the past month lol

[Anonymous No.6292259]

>>6292094
yikes friendship with guilty gear ended
now blazblue is my new best friend

[Anonymous No.6292276]

>>6292259
blazblue is pretty much dead too since Mori just left arcsys.

thank god. I can't imagine them making Amane trans in the next game, and Amane is not even as valuable as Bridget

[Anonymous No.6292293]

>>6292134
>The "lol it's funny because it looks like a girl but has a penis" act is not ok anymore and will get you banned from any reputable space
>reputable
you need to go back tranny

[Anonymous No.6292309]

>>6292259
>blazblue
doesn't that have the blue haired mtf?

[Anonymous No.6292357]

>>6292110
>the tranny bridget thing is such an obvious, gross pandering ploy
yeah and poorly thought out as well.
a character being brainwashed into becoming trans and having it be celebrated probably peaked a lot of moderates who had previously believed progressives when they denied being groomers during dont say gay.

[Anonymous No.6292404]

gdi it may have taken literal years but I finally figured out how to construct a relatively 3d skull

[Anonymous No.6292533]

>>6292404
Cool, now do it from different angles

[Anonymous No.6292655]

morning practice.
failed to translate construction into readable linework because I can only draw on my phone rn.

[Anonymous No.6292667]

>>6292027
No one cares he's been a boy for like 20 years fuck

[Anonymous No.6292679]

>>6292655
Yeah, the line work is shitty cause medium, but the construction looks tight and fuckable. Keep that edge sharp, anon!

[Anonymous No.6292781]

Slightly modified studie on Tim löchner

[Anonymous No.6292875]

>>6292667
Not a boy anymore nigger
She's a loud and proud woman now

[Anonymous No.6293115]

>>6292875
retcons aren't canon

[Anonymous No.6293196]

>>6292404
face still looks kinda flat

[Anonymous No.6293236]

>>6293115
>retcons aren't canon
You don't know what retcon means

[Anonymous No.6293241]

>>6292781
I live near that fag. I hate the faces he draws but damn everything else is great

[Anonymous No.6293295]

>>6293236
that's what retcon is

[Anonymous No.6293352]

>>6292404
anon.... i

[Anonymous No.6293411]

can someone please post a successful example of using the krenz method on the level 1 dogs and explain how to do it? im getting filtered by them.
every line i place is off, in angle, length, curve, and position. i just dont get it.

[Anonymous No.6293419]

>>6293411
https://youtu.be/iK5Qn_Iwv9A
https://youtu.be/pBI220M6EMY

[Anonymous No.6293511]

Not sure if this belongs itt but I made this request from /v/ and wanted to share it here too

[Anonymous No.6293527]

How do I achieve this kind of composition? I want my art to look like it came straight out of a 90s videogame concept art book. What tools and methods does this aesthetic require?

[Anonymous No.6293547]

>>6293527
>tools
probably copic markers and some ink
>methods
Lol, stop being a loomistard and just draw. Study jap art from the 90s.

[Anonymous No.6293573]

>>6292533
Tried another one, I think I got rid of most of my perspective mistakes so I'd love some pointers on what I missed.
Eyes are wild, there's about 15 different little rules that make up their shape, get one wrong and they'll look messed up.
>>6293196
I'm not sure what you're trying to show here but you drew a line connecting the top of one eye to the corner of another, so I'm a bit confused.

[Anonymous No.6293715]

>>6293547
That’s not exactly what I meant by methods. Obviously it takes certain technique to get that level of shading and texturing.

[Anonymous No.6294113]

>>6293715
It's called doing it for yourself. Not everything has a tutorial.
We're not trying to be rude here, just understand that styles aren't manufactured and are inherent product of their times.

[Anonymous No.6294142]

how can i make this resemble a made in abyss panel? i feel like i can't nail the lineart and the lighting yet yes i know there' no texture, but i can't find any that looks like the one akihito uses

[Anonymous No.6294190]

>>6294142
Tsukushi's lineart is mechanical pencil (hard round brush) with opacity turned down slightly and use more curved lines rather than sharp, straight edges

[Anonymous No.6294192]

>>6294142
Also sex Erovueko

[Anonymous No.6294309]

>>6290157
ear seems too close to the eye, the back of her head generally looks kinda wonky

[Anonymous No.6294601]

>>6292051
is nice, would like to see some more.

[Anonymous No.6294880]

>>6294113
Okay. I’ll refrain from ever asking for advice then.

[Anonymous No.6294906]

What does that krenz video say, i'm not listening to chink speak.

[Anonymous No.6294923]

>>6294880
So you're getting upset because we're not telling you what you want to hear? What the hell.

[Anonymous No.6294931]

>>6287682
Cute start! I have some suggestions. Do you have a blog friend?

[Anonymous No.6295035]

>>6291993
>>6291297
Your kind were never supposed to use 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6295054]

>>6294906
copying accurately increases your visual library of shapes
copy accurately by identifying angle, proportion, relative position, and types of lines
practice by enveloping subject in simple shape and deconstructing with smaller simple shapes within
once you hone your 2d observation skills and become a copygod, integrate 3d construction and become an artgod

[Anonymous No.6295234]

I don't use references, but I watch my Twitter feed for like 10 mins before drawing to get inspired, and I feel like I have been improving that way, should I keep doing it?

Any recommendations to improve this drawing?

[Anonymous No.6295235]

>>6294601
Head on the right is me trying to recall pic related, which was from reference. Didn't quite capture the perspective.

[Anonymous No.6295277]

>>6295234
Looks good as a preliminary sketch
Just keep chiseling out details with form and perspective in mind and you're good

[Anonymous No.6295289]

Weird question but is there any ressource that teach how to study correctly from reference? I feel like I'm stuck at "copying" things without really thinking about it.

[Mao Asakura's dick !yzST5MoZWY No.6295386]

Does anyone have an anime style pose compendium? Something like Shoujo Poses

[Anonymous No.6295419]

>>6295386
Just get some of the Japanese pose books from Kinokuniya. Also you can just grab manga or doujins with action scenes or shoujo esque scenes you're looking for, lol

[Anonymous No.6295428]

>>6295419

What is that thick book top left? I can't seem to find it despite its name being visible there.

[Anonymous No.6295435]

>>6295289
If you’re copying things without thinking, you should start memorizing some of what you’re copying like studying for an exam. You don’t have to reproduce it perfectly from memory but it should be good enough.

[Anonymous No.6295455]

>>6295428
it's hentai manga by Kiyoshiro Inoue. Sometimes it is labeled as "The Job of a Service Committee Member". A friend of mine casually gave it to me to, his faces aren't 100 percent what I'm going for but overall his stuff is amazing, lots of cool angles and good anatomy+clothing folds. I don't even read it for the hentai anymore, it's just for study now lol

[Anonymous No.6295475]

>>6295455
It is a very good read for sure, I always come back to it.

[Anonymous No.6295486]

>>6295289
Watch someone else do it lol it's not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.6295733]

>>6287353
hey! i saw you on /wsr/!

[Anonymous No.6295759]

>>6295035
No, you pretentious piece of shit, this isn't your pretend clique. Go back to r*ddit.

[Anonymous No.6295894]

>>6287353
Looks too empty, you should add a cape

[Anonymous No.6295998]

I finished watching Krenz, everything he says is sorta aligned with what I already know, mostly I need to work on my memory of shapes to develop shortcuts, I guess.

But can someone elaborate on what he called "sailboat theory"?
I assume it has to do with composition, establishing the ground, the vertical center of focus and some kind of leading curve, but I can't find much by googling it.

Also, he mentions this is part 1/3, did he ever release parts 2 and 3, or are there any recommended tutorials that are equally condensed?
I have been drawing for a loooooong time, I just suck at the fundamentals, so a 3h summary of all these topics was great for me to diagnose what's wrong with my art.

[Anonymous No.6296039]

>>6287351
if you want to study boichi, start with guptill because that is what he studied

[Anonymous No.6296070]

>>6294931
That looks amazing lad, thanks, I really like the profile face and the new shape of the cheeks. Also caught my attention the way you built the knees/patella
Unfortunately I'm not posting my drawings anywhere, I have a pixiv acc but it's been 2 years since I posted anything
btw is this a csp pen? looks pretty nice for thin lines

[Anonymous No.6296080]

>>6295386
>he doesn't have 100GBs of fakku hentai doujins downloaded yet.
ngmi

[Anonymous No.6296094]

i drew an oc.
used a 3d model as reference. didnt trace at all and only had to use the transform tool like 5 times so thats pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.6296332]

>>6291296
who the fuck does a sketch page on a sheet of animation paper? or is that a frame for a scene with a bunch of identical girls

[Anonymous No.6296343]

>>6296094
bog boba

[Anonymous No.6296369]

>>6296080
mega link please

[Anonymous No.6296390]

Can I have some crit?

[Anonymous No.6296404]

>>6296390
face is horrid

[Anonymous No.6296454]

>>6295759
Yes it is, no matter how many of you astroturffing faggot redditors try to make it not so

[Anonymous No.6296511]

Any tips/resources for aligning eyes? I can never to get them to look right and most books seem to gloss over it.

[Anonymous No.6296514]

>>6296511
Imagine half a paper towel tube along where the eyes would be, assuming you have the head forms accurately placed already. Since the eye sockets and bridge of the nose slightly dent inwards.
Better - take a ruler and hold it against your eyes longways then take pics at various angles
Use reference and practice

[Anonymous No.6296553]

Study on Shion

[Anonymous No.6296647]

Anyone has a pointer or general rules for facial expressions? My anime faces always look derpy for some reason and I whenever I draw faces without copying line by line from anime, it never works.

[Anonymous No.6296690]

i'm trying to copy this but i can't get the rendering right. I can't get the corect opactiy and texture for the strokes

[Anonymous No.6296702]

>>6296070

[Anonymous No.6296705]

>>6296702
I do use a CSP pen. I would adjust the pen pressure on your tablet until it feels right, getting fully opaque to almost no lines.
https://files.catbox.moe/rsd57o.sut

[Anonymous No.6296709]

>>6296647
Study facial anatomy copy yourself in the mirror

[Anonymous No.6296742]

>>6296709
But i'm ugly :(

[Anonymous No.6296745]

>>6296709
>yourself in the mirror
Hell no, I'm willing to do anything to improve but that

[Anonymous No.6296766]

>>6296332
>who the fuck does a sketch page on a sheet of animation paper?
amateur.

[Anonymous No.6296772]

>>6296742
you have a confidence issue in the root level. It is not even about drawing or anything like that. Get looked at. Most people are glad to take compliments.

[Anonymous No.6296778]

>>6292357
read >>6292094
It's not grooming

[Anonymous No.6296783]

>>6296778
>believing the PR response from arcsys
lol

[Anonymous No.6297010]

Is the eye positioning fucked?
I redid her left eye a bunch of times but it always looks kinda wrong

[Anonymous No.6297045]

>>6297010
1. The forehead is fucking massive. Lower the bangs.
2. Her ear is coming out of her jaw. Put it higher.
3. The problem is that you're making the eyes from a high shot pespective, her lower eyelids should be flat. Right here should be a bit lower too.

[Anonymous No.6297059]

>>6297045
this is what I mean.

[Anonymous No.6297157]

>>6296454
t.faggot nigger kike

[Anonymous No.6297309]

>>6297157
>haha i said the thing I'm so 4chan
kys 2016 tourist you sound like a tryhard tranny

[Anonymous No.6297327]

>>6296705
that's nice, thanks bro

[Anonymous No.6297354]

mainly tried to do the linework correctly, got lazy painting the thing

[Anonymous No.6297361]

>>6297354
That's what happens for using horrible porn, look for something better, asshole

[Anonymous No.6297373]

>>6297309

[Anonymous No.6297378]

>>6297373

[Anonymous No.6297382]

>>6297361
bro not appreciating the divine goddess hexgirl777 is straight up imbecility
stop jerking off to little kids with googly eyes and become a real man

[Anonymous No.6297398]

>>6297354
spoiler that shit idiot and get better taste

[Anonymous No.6297401]

>>6297378

[Anonymous No.6297701]

Can I have some crit on heads? No clue whats wrong, esp the front facing ones

[Anonymous No.6297704]

>>6297701
Stop doing loomis-tardation and copy anime heads. Only then you can try loomis and see if it helps. Anyone saying otherwise is crabbing you. You can't construct what you don't know.

[Anonymous No.6297712]

>>6297701
Way too flat. Listen to >>6297704 it looks like your some 80 year art teacher trying to draw anime

[Anonymous No.6297734]

>>6297712
what do you mean flat? I've tried copying like >>6297704 says before but not sure what makes something flat vs not, esp when I cant do things I can do with whole bodies like foreshortening/overlapping

[Anonymous No.6297735]

>>6297045
Thanks for th crit, i'll work on those points!

[Anonymous No.6297753]

Still banned?

[Anonymous No.6297755]

>>6297753
Nope, I'm fine

[Anonymous No.6297771]

>>6295419
>>6295455
subu your faces are still ugly

[Anonymous No.6297772]

>>6297354
disgusting

[Anonymous No.6297826]

>>6297771
he says he's making $500-1800 per commission. Feel bad for the dumbass retards commissioning him

[Anonymous No.6297837]

>>6297826
people who gloat so much about their commissions and daily life to the point that it became their main personality is hilarious

[Anonymous No.6297994]

>>6297771
>>6297837
imagine being this mad about some random guy on the internet. you need to take some meds, faggot

[Anonymous No.6298384]

>>6297826
This is very based. A westoid trying to make it in a see of ngmi.

[Anonymous No.6298413]

I've been having trouble with drawing anime eyes forever, is anything of this picture true?

[Anonymous No.6298435]

>>6297701
>>6297734
It's the head shape mainly it's too rigid and straight you need more curves.

[Anonymous No.6298603]

>>6295998
>sailboat theory
Considering that Russian text it basically means you can detect/identify shapes in composition by subtracting, combining or modifying basic shapes. For example crescent moon is constructed by subtracting ellipse (modified circle) from another circle.

[Anonymous No.6298749]

i know this is not specific to anime but my biggest crux is that i'm slow, so even results i may like i'm still frustrated. pic related took 30-40 minutes total but i feel that someone competent could have sped it up to ten minutes.

how can this be changed? i feel like this peculiar problem is particular to me only and that it comes naturally for other people.

[Anonymous No.6298753]

>>6298749
This is meta impatience. It's going to take longer than you think before you take less time.

[Anonymous No.6298764]

>>6298753
i'm fine with that if it means i will one day be faster the more i work and that this is normal

[Anonymous No.6298769]

>>6298749
My friend of the finest anime taste slow and steady wins the race

[Anonymous No.6298794]

>>6298749
I'm pretty slow too. Something like this would've probably taken me over 20 mins or so. I pretty sure it mostly just comes down to experience

[Anonymous No.6298826]

>>6298749
your lines feel like you are trying too hard to be clean. be more confident and speed will follow.

[Anonymous No.6298833]

>>6298764
It's a perishable skill. You need to keep it sharp as you improve it. That's what makes it hard, otherwise it would be just like grinding a video game.

[Anonymous No.6298859]

Rough study replicating this head angle. Attempted to change some features to better fit Leon Forger

[Anonymous No.6298866]

>>6297994
take some humble dick pills, fag

[Anonymous No.6298890]

>>6298749
You will be slow for years bro. Don't be afraid of spending hours on a single drawing. You won't get faster if you try to race through your drawings.
Pros are fast because they draw more (measured in time) in one day than you in a whole month.

[Anonymous No.6298894]

>>6298603
Overall good job. I think it's a good step in the right direction. But your proportions are suffering too frequently.

Be sure to use angles and true verticals and horizontals to check whether points along an image line up. For instance, the tip of the nose is too low in relation to Misty's right lower eyelid. The placement of the ear is correct in it's vertical placement. Her cheek also needs to be lowered.

[Anonymous No.6298910]

>>6298866
Nah. There's nothing to be humble about, you basically stirred up shit for no reason and repeatedly shoving it down people's throats.

[Anonymous No.6299137]

>>6298749
Don't get hasty anon, I also am pretty slow, this sketch took me around 1 hour, around 6 months ago it would have taken me 2 hour or even more.
Take your time.

[Anonymous No.6299158]

>>6299137
you just didn't know what to draw, didn't you

[Anonymous No.6299159]

>>6299158
I actually tried to sketch Hanae from Blue Archive, it got messier way later when trying to adjust stuff.
There are a lot of mistakes I can work through, like the hair in this instance but i'm doing my best.

[Anonymous No.6299172]

>>6299159
Well I'm just also a /beg/ so I'm not exactly qualified to give you advice, but I think you should observe the design more, Question why the original artist put this line here, and why this line curved like this, why the proportion of x like that. You can fill the gap of not understanding the design with knowledge like anatomy or references and such, I also used to take a very long time to sketch something, like 3 hours(pic on the right) for a very barebone one. Now I just do it in a few minutes. If you draw faster you will draw more.

[Anonymous No.6299239]

>>6299172
I should really follow this advice but i'm finding it really hard because every artist draws in a different way and i feel overwhelmed so i'm trying to find the most generic way to draw something as of right now. I'll do my best tho, anon

[Anonymous No.6299884]

anyone got a good resource on shading and coloring anime hair?

[Tokimeki Poporon !aqc90sSKbY No.6299931]

OC shit

[Anonymous No.6299951]

OC shit

[Anonymous No.6300383]

Beg here. I have a question about practicing about copy. Should i start copying any anime frame or should i focus on an artist and try to copy his style?

[Anonymous No.6300423]

>>6300383
it can be both but it's better to copy an artist