/wct/ - Water Cooler Talk

[Anonymous No.6287237]

If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep the discussion on-topic as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.6287240]

>>6287237
I'm drawing a puffy vulva and I just realized now it looks like a spiders mouth AAAAAAHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6287288]

I feel like the galaxy brain meme right now, learning rate seems to accelerate the more I learn. It's a circlejerk of cognition. Getting filtered isn't a meme, you literally have to push past the first gatekeeper however long it takes but once you do, it gets easier.

[Anonymous No.6287298]

>>6287237
For all my overthinkers out there, don’t overthink. If something wasn’t asked of you to draw in a certain way or to find problems to solutions that weren’t brought up yet, don’t do it. Let it come if it shows itself.

[Anonymous No.6287404]

are these the fastest threads in /ic/?

[Anonymous No.6287405]

>>6287404
nah /beg/ is desu

[Anonymous No.6287481]

my hands are so sweaty it slips on my cintiq screen. help

[Anonymous No.6287482]

>>6287288
That was my experience too. It's like, it takes 3 years to learn to read as a kid, but as an adult you can get a bachelors in 3 years.

[Anonymous No.6287706]

>>6287482
There's a lot of barriers too and for me, there's never a clear indication of when I can get past them but when I do, it's like my brain unlocks. I only hope this next barrier takes less time because the last one took about a year, maybe longer.

[Anonymous No.6287797]

I sometimes willfully give my art peers bad advice or withhold information because I fear they might overpass me.
I also feel regret when I give actual help to them because I feel like I helped the opposing competition.
Why am I so petty and pathetic? Idk how to fix it

[Anonymous No.6287802]

>>6287797
Dont fret anon. Anyone following ur advice was ngmi in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6287803]

I wish I knew a long time ago that I enjoy drawing landscapes/backgrounds so much more than le anime boobies.

[Anonymous No.6287820]

>being able to finally do fun little sketches
>Seeing others help Invision your work
>See new peaks to achieve
>/beg/
This place is comfy

[Anonymous No.6287830]

>>6287240
nature has been trying you warn us for a very long time

[Anonymous No.6287841]

I wish I was more active in uploading my art. I draw often but rarely produce art I feel like uploading, and it greatly hurts my name recognition in the places I draw for.

[Anonymous No.6287846]

I installed a free clipstudio from here only to get a virus on my computer

[Anonymous No.6287901]

>>6287288
Hope I can reach this point eventually, I get frustrated easily but I'm trying hard to overcome my natural impatience and keep pushing through.

[Anonymous No.6288294]

I watched in real time this fresh “Japanese” account (may never know) getting retweeted by a few bigger accounts and OVER NIGHT he reached 400 followers and his posts has over 1000 likes. But they keep removing their art and posting new art to make it look like that’s the first post. I literally watched this one account since its creation.

[Anonymous No.6288359]

I've been catching myself clenching my jaw real tightly when I draw. I usually don't notice until I get up and stretch. Sometimes the resulting ache sticks with me for days.
wat do

[Anonymous No.6288402]

>>6288294
Nips are notorious for cronyism/circlejerks and mass deletion/rebranding. It's not exclusive to twitter either, I lost count of how many pixiv accounts I follow got nuked only for me to rediscover the artist under a new alias. Social media accounts for japs isn't for amassing numbers and fake friends but having a good corporate image.

[Anonymous No.6288457]

I'm so fucking tired of Newgrounds jerking themselves off over the same few IPs, artstyles and artists instead of promoting anything else, no wonder this site died.
My stupid game from 13 years ago got 20x more attention than anything I post there nowadays and I took that for granted.

[Anonymous No.6288538]

>>6288457
on one hand we like to complain about new thing bad old thing good a lot, but newgrounds is cultural bubble frozen in time that's rarely seen these days, for better or worse

[Anonymous No.6288559]

>drop a resource a year ago out of frustration
>come back to it
>the information makes too much sense now

Funny how the brain evolves over time.

[Anonymous No.6288606]

I want to write a webnovel and earn money by drawing commissions at the same time. Already written 10 chapters and ready to start posting online when I hit 20. Drawing for money is still so far off however, as my art twitter account has next to no follower. And if I want to draw illustrations for my webnovel I would have less time to draw fanart to get more followers. Feels like I should just drop one and focus on the other, but chances are I will get burnt-out before long doing only one thing. I love writing and drawing, and it would take a lot of willpower to quit either.

[Anonymous No.6288620]

so I read somewhere that the more twitterposts you make the less visibility each one gets. so you can post a drawing, then respond to comments and your followers might see these in their feed and not the actual drawing. something with the engagement algorithm
is there any truth to this?

[Anonymous No.6288666]

>>6288620
Yes, but posts with higher engagement get higher priority, and replies are accompanied by the main tweet, so followers will see the drawing anyway.

[Anonymous No.6288955]

>feel bad about my lines
>zoom into pics I like
>realize their lines are even worse than mine

[Anonymous No.6288958]

My future isn't bright. I don't know what I have to look forward to. I feel totally and completely lost.

[Anonymous No.6289230]

I realized I (now) have everything I could have ever wanted as a kid. I have all the fancy electronics, cintiq, ipad, courses that were NEVER around when I started as a kid, career options that I thought were fantasy that people proved again and again to be possible. I have a fantasy meme job where I can work in my pajamas/anywhere I want, no phones or dealing with humans, etc. I obtained everything my NEET/social reject self could ever have wanted without me realizing it until recently. All except becoming a pro at drawing.

But, it’s weird. It’s like a save point and I get to start over where I left off as a kid but with everything I wanted and everything I hated that got removed. So while I wasted away my 20s…it actually wasn’t all a waste at all. I was busy obtaining everything I could ask for.

[Anonymous No.6289395]

>>6288958
I've been there and I wish I could give helpful advice on how I dealt with it but I got nothing except maybe consider you have clinical depression.

[Anonymous No.6289564]

>>6289230
Godspeed anon. Prove it wasn't a waste by creating great art. It'll all be worth it.

[Anonymous No.6289625]

>>6287797
The fact that you feel regret for helping them, but not for trying to stop their progress shows how much of a bitch you are
Let me guess, youre a young artist that got good, but now is afraid to lose the only thing that made you "cool and unique"?
You know that, on an equal footing, you lose against anyone

[Anonymous No.6289630]

I've been on a downward spiral for like two years now and I don't know how to break out. I can't get myself to consistently draw, I've gained about 50 pounds, I have 0 social life, I can't save money, and I just constantly feel lethargic and like I've gotten dumber. I can't think of anything about myself that's going well. I shouldn't feel like this at fucking 22 what the fuck is wrong with me I'm too young to be decaying like this

[Anonymous No.6289632]

>>6289630
Long covid

[Anonymous No.6289634]

>>6289630
>>6289630
Less light at night. Sleep earlier, sleep better. Fast more. Get sunlight everyday. Exercise in the sunlight. Eat healthier. If you want to get better, get better.

[Anonymous No.6289726]

>>6288606
I'd write less and draw more. Something like a 3:1 ratio in terms of time spent. Drawing is just a harder ability to improve at and even maintain, imo it requires more attention to do it well. The thing about drawing fanart is, if you don't have a distinct art style that people end up liking more than the fanservice itself, those followers you get from fanart won't care about your other stuff. If they do love your artstyle they will probably get curious about your personal projects.

[Anonymous No.6289926]

>>6289564

Thanks. Going to take the trad only pill for a while.

[Anonymous No.6290337]

>be in art group
>there's a girl who types in cutesy speech
>she draws girls
>some time passes
>now she draws girls with huge raging horse boners
>the dicks become the central focus of the art
It's a tranny isn't it, he's the only one who draws this kind of depravity in the whole group and everyone tolerates it.

[Anonymous No.6290350]

>>6290337
Why are you retards always talking about trannies, you sound deranged

[Anonymous No.6290364]

>>6290350
Because I'm sick of seeing degeneracy in my art group but this asshole gets a pass for whatever reason. Even if they were biological female I'd want them dragged out by their hair. Too bad I've met thousands of women and none of them would even be capable of drawing so much fucking shemale horsecock because even the horniest women don't have that kind of libido.

[Anonymous No.6290375]

>>6290364
>because even the horniest women don't have that kind of libido.
oh my sweet summer child

[Anonymous No.6290383]

>>6290375
I'm not horny enough to think that a dickgirl could ever be a woman lol

[Anonymous No.6290390]

>>6290375
Only a woman could ever believe the horniest females raw libido is comparable to the horniest males raw libido. It's not even close. No amount of estrogen can stop a male's libido, while women on estrogen dry up almost completely.

[Anonymous No.6290394]

>>6287237
Is traditional publishing still worth it?
Anyone here has any experience?
I plan on making a whole volume worth of material before showing it to a publisher, I doubt I can self publish myself so I want some help in the matter...

[Anonymous No.6290685]

Anyone else draw because they've failed at life otherwise and live in fear of feeling like they've wasted it when they're on their deathbed, so their only hope is maybe if they draw good enough and actually make some content with it that people care about it'll be okay? Maybe people will remember me after I die if I can touch their hearts in some way?

[Anonymous No.6290779]

I want to make a short story comic revolving around some of the problems I'm experiencing in my life right now, but I've probably not written anything fiction since like my freshman year of high-school in english class, which was 8 years ago. Also it was a really cringe Jojo fanfic.
I'm afraid of making something deeply personal but also doing it poorly even though I realize that's most likely what'll happen and it's how you learn. Help

[Anonymous No.6290904]

>>6290685
Why are you trying to present your obsession with approval and validation as something spiritual, like a life journey or purpose or something? Lmao. "If enough people mindlessly consume my tranime pinups my life will have been worth it" Jeesus. No love for the craft or a desire to bring any characters to life mentioned, 100% of the focus is on what others would think. Even if you manage to get the validation you crave you will feel like shit on your deathbed knowing you weren't true to yourself because you were just chasing likes and money.
>inb4 b-but i gotta pay bills
That is a completely separate part of art, the fact is that you described it as your life's purpose to get approval. You didn't say "I want to make a living off art and tell this story I'm passionate about." You essentially are saying that your life will have been worth if enough people press the like button and validate your ego dream artist persona.

[Anonymous No.6290926]

>>6290904
You have to be 18 or above to post here

[Anonymous No.6291045]

why is it so hard to design a guy oc. fuckin rectangular bodies and shit

[Anonymous No.6291160]

I can't stop compulsively drawing and my thumb hurts

[Anonymous No.6291247]

AI itself didn't demoralize me but seeing how fast normalfags started turning on artists and frothing at the mouth at the prospect of us being replaced and removing whatever remnants of humanity is left in our evil morally bankrupt culture certainly did.

[Anonymous No.6291266]

>>6289625
pretty much I guess, yeah.
Don't know how to fix it. Or is it just a permanent personality.
I do help them, but I can't just shake the feeling I'm at a lost in some way. Why should I give info to the competition when I in turn received nothing? so sometimes I tell them I don't know or just tell em in a roundabout way
such a petty way of seeing it I know, but still
>>6287802
probably true

[Anonymous No.6291280]

>>6291247
That is definitely the worst thing to come out of this whole AI problem. Aside from being soulless NPCs with absolutely no taste, they are also despicable sacks of shit that would kill you for bread in a heartbeat, they just live in the wrong era.

[Anonymous No.6291289]

>>6288359
Wear one of those mouth guards that teeth grinders wear to bed. If not, chew some gum

[Anonymous No.6291328]

>>6287237
I finally understand arms!

Though the relation between the elbow and the triceps still fucks with me a little

[Anonymous No.6291421]

>Art comes naturally to me so I learn and improve fairly easily
>Thus harshly judge /beg/s who don't improve fast
>Try learning music
>Absolutely pathetic at it even after a year of learning
I kneel /beg/bros, I have learned to have empathy for your plight (no mercy for the /beg/s who don't even try to improve though)

[Anonymous No.6291430]

>>6291247
A lot of people have came out in support of us too. I have never seen people want to do something en masse because it's right unless it involves some slutty 13 year old whoring herself out to Islamic christfags or children in general, see lead in our cars last century and how they just let it get out of hand, but when it comes to our art being taken they seem to want to fight for us.

yes, there are bots and degenerates. But so many more who will stand with us until the bitter end

[Anonymous No.6291448]

>>6290904
lol you didnt have to murder him

[Anonymous No.6291470]

daily walks are good for the soul, make sure you guy go out and get yourself some sun /ic/

[Anonymous No.6291493]

>>6291328
What resource did you use, if any? Arms are something I still struggle to grasp

[Anonymous No.6291508]

>>6291493
>What resource did you use, if any?
Anatomy for Sculptors (pic rel)
Proko's videos on arms, his forearm one especially.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=894PGlFUr6E&t=436s
And searching any kind of fitness video on youtube gives you great references.

[Anonymous No.6291522]

adding details to a drawing make me feel so lazy

[Anonymous No.6291730]

AAAAAHHHHHH!!!! WHY DOES EVERYONE WANT ME TO HANG OUT & DO STUFF WITH THEM?!?!

I can't fucking escape it. I only have a social circle of like, 3 friends, my dad, my sister, and my grandparents. That's it. And yet, they all fucking come over, want me to visit, or want me to go to some thing with them almost every goddamn day. I swear, they're conspiring against me. They all fucking stagger it in such a way where Friend 1 wants to hang out one day, then my sister the next day, then Friend 2, then Friend 3, then my grandmother, then Friend 1 again, etc.

Why can't these fucking people just leave me alone, and let me work on my art. I 100% have the drive and commitment to be an art hermit and just work on my stuff all day, every day. That's literally all I want, and I've told them as much. But it doesn't seem to fucking phase them, and they still ask me to hang out with them. I'm working on a solo animated short film, and I know that it will take me about another year to finally finish it. But these fucking people keep slowing me down, and I'm too much of a pushover to just tell them "no" half of the time. They're my friends/family, and I do love them, so I feel obligated to do things with them. But Jesus Christ, I just wish they'd lay off.

[Anonymous No.6291737]

>>6291266
You're trash who doesn't deserve his 'friends'. Just leave them, you'll betray them horrifically when the time comes for it

[Anonymous No.6291813]

seems like half of my followers are some kind of lgbtq-stuff
also latinamericans are the weebest users on twitter

[Anonymous No.6291816]

>>6290364
No woman draws that crap they are a tranny and so are (you)

[Anonymous No.6291825]

>>6290364
>even the horniest women don't have that kind of libido
Pretty sure it's less libido but rather not very likely to be into tranny shemales with horsecocks. Shemale/futa/whatever is a very male fetish.

[Anonymous No.6291837]

>>6287237
I'm having an urge to spend money.
Talk me out of it please.

[Anonymous No.6291854]

>>6291837
Go draw to distract yourself. Sketch me a Mermaid luring a sailor into the river.

[Anonymous No.6291862]

>>6291837
What do you want to buy?

[Anonymous No.6291865]

>>6291737
I wouldn't call them friends. They're just peers.
The only occasion I talk to them is when they ask me something.

[Anonymous No.6292223]

The AI shit has forced me to reconsider my priorities when it comes to art. I'm trying to focus less on making impressive art and more on artistic art, since the AI is good at shitting out "impressive" looking stuff but has a bad understanding of composition.

[Anonymous No.6292254]

God I’m sick of commissioners always asking me for samples of my art work. Like, nigga, you follwed me, and you DM’d me on the social platform. You should know what my art looks like.

[Anonymous No.6292261]

>>6292254
This is why you grind/study hard enough such that you can start charging $100 minimum to filter out the retards

[Anonymous No.6292277]

i think making 3d models and sculpting has helped me a bit with 2d art

its like an autistic pseudo superpower where i can imagine a specific object rotating on all sorts of directions

regardless of that my drawings still fucking suck but atleast i can sculpt and model ugly people and objects

[Anonymous No.6292388]

i often think about if appealing to most common denominator really is the only realistic way to sustain myself with art
the thing is i dont think i can do it

[Anonymous No.6292410]

>>6291865
Then be nicer. Most people don't even use the best advice well and if they did? Shit, they'd thank you so much. Learn to enjoy their smiles man.

[Anonymous No.6292416]

>>6291816
>>6291825
No shit women don't draw that stuff but on the off chance that such a bizarre female exists she wouldn't be capable of doing it at the sheer volume as this dude. Everything about him screams tranny and now I resent the way he tries to be cute and girly when it's guaranteed just a fetish of his and I refuse to participate in enabling him.

[Anonymous No.6292571]

>>6292416
yes they do
you have had 1 on the board for 6+ years

[Anonymous No.6292674]

>>6292416
You underestimate how horny fujos can be. But yeah, that dude is definitely a man

Ask if he's already started HRT lol

[Anonymous No.6292795]

>>6292571
Yeah the board that gets weekly posts about pretending to be a woman for easy attention, or paying women for photos of themselves to pass off as pics of yourself, that board.

[Anonymous No.6292833]

>>6292795
>or paying women for photos of themselves to pass off as pics of yourself, that board.
I have never heard anyone do this

[Anonymous No.6292853]

ever since I started making a living off comms + selling the occasional painting 2 of my friends have been fighting tooth and nail to gaslight me into thinking that I'm deeply unhappy and that I need to find a "real" job, and they alternate that with making fun of me for not having a "real" job. it makes me physically sick to imagine how much hatred and potential envy these people i considered friends have for me. does anyone relate to this? how do you accept it?

[Anonymous No.6292857]

>>6292853
Be my fren instead. I treat my talented friends with admiration and respect >w<

[Anonymous No.6292861]

>>6292853
Friends are people you enjoy spending your time with. If this problem is getting on your nerves but you still appreciate them then tell them to cut that shit out lest you stop enjoying your time with them.

[Anonymous No.6292872]

>>6292853
>how do you accept it?
by getting rid of those assgoblins. they were never really your friends, since when you started obtaining success they immediately tried to make your life miserable. cut them off.

[Anonymous No.6292918]

>>6292853
Accept that what you're seeing is their true colors and drop them immediately. They're jealous of your success and seek to drag you back down to the status quo of mediocrity and dead-end jobs. Surround yourself with people who respect you and will have your best interest in mind.

[Anonymous No.6293034]

I can't for the life of me color skin. Be it white, black, asian,etc. It doesn't FEEL like skin. It feels flat and when I paint the shadows it gets worse.

[Anonymous No.6293047]

>>6290337
what art group? i might know who youre talking about

[Anonymous No.6293208]

Gonna just do studies all day until the new rig n morty tonight. I can tell it's going to be of those great study days where little to no frustration happens, been feeling that way a lot lately actually. Ever since I stopped looking at Discord and cut out music completely, just basking in silence. I didn't realize how distracting wordless music was.

[Anonymous No.6293234]

I developed a little bit about a character's story and suddenly no matter what I write he just seems like a massive fucking asshole.

Not only that, but I developed another character's personality way more and she went from someone rather 2-dimensional to someone that I really cared about and I don't know if I want to hurt her that bad (especially when it doesn't really fit the tone of the story)

God writing relationships is difficult

[Anonymous No.6293323]

>>6293034
Try a gritty speckled airbrush for your highlights to give it more obvious texture, and vary the shades of color you use. Don't forget that skin is several colors including blue, red, and yellow, and whatever bounce light is in the environment.

[Anonymous No.6293759]

>>6290779
Make an unrelated small thing first. Test the waters and all that. Cute elf.

[Anonymous No.6293923]

for some reason recently I've gotten followed by alot of bots with korean models as their profilepics

[Anonymous No.6293934]

I can’t stop looking at gore

[Anonymous No.6293997]

>>6290779
make the deeply personal thing anon. even if it ends up trash, people connect with sincere art that is made shittily. its way better than ironic wishy washy bullshit made well.

and if it ends up bad, you managed to hone your skills, you can grind for a few years, and go back and remake and make a really polished story based on your old rough blueprint

[Anonymous No.6294000]

>>6291160
Easy fix. Switch to fingerpainting.

[Anonymous No.6294089]

>>6294000
I was studying this exact same picture.

[Anonymous No.6294148]

I hate Frida Kahlo so much its unreal. There are so many genuinely talented female painters but she cloutmogs them all simply because she's a unibrow shitskin and her high beg tier paintings trigger the diversity centers in the NPCs brains.

[Anonymous No.6294167]

>work at a shitty office job, 8 hours a day
>there's barely any actual work
>spend more than half of the time on my phone endlessly scrolling 4chin
>can't draw because my room has a glass wall facing the corridor and everyone would be able to see that I'm drawing
Endless torture

[Anonymous No.6294569]

>>6289630
Too much sugar can make you really lethargic, do you have a lot of sugar in your diet?

[Anonymous No.6294577]

Will this new AI art generation thingy be included in photochop at some point?

[Anonymous No.6294594]

>>6294167
a tablet might solve that if you can afford one

[Anonymous No.6294628]

What is it like to be friends with a popular hentai/furry artist?
I been wondering how am I supposed to act or what should I do when a bigger artist likes my stuff.

[Anonymous No.6294647]

>>6294628
They're just regular people like you and me.

[Anonymous No.6294650]

>>6294628
if they aren't pro tranny, hi five them and tell them you'll let them put the jewish shower waters on first when it's time to get our own back

[Anonymous No.6294653]

>>6294628
They probably have good stories to tell. I wouldn't mind a friend like that.

[Anonymous No.6294713]

>>6294628
A lot of complaining about other artists, if the one I know is anything to go by.

[Anonymous No.6295115]

Art is a reflection of the soul which is why I get sickened by my work if I add color. Been this way since preschool. It just isn't me. To prove to myself that color won't feel right to me no matter how good I get, I took some of the most highly regarded paitings and put my signature over it and imagined that I made them. Just as I thought, I felt disgusted.

[Anonymous No.6295116]

>>6295115
huh?

[Anonymous No.6295123]

>>6295116
What about my post is confusing? Learning to properly reflect your soul is important for any artist. It's a journey of self discovery.

[Anonymous No.6295124]

>>6294577
They already have neural filters, the background one is pretty close to the same tech.

[Anonymous No.6295125]

>>6295115
That's not a great experiment for finding truth. There is no way to know without actually getting good at color. The disgust you felt likely came from a deeper place.

[Anonymous No.6295128]

>>6295115
Did you draw that? The lines look westoid.

[Anonymous No.6295140]

>>6295125
If you have a messed up inner world, your art will be affected. Or something like that. The reason I'm telling you this, is because I bet if you looked back at your childhood, it would reflect itself in your art too. Nothing you can do about it.
>>6295128
No, I found it quick to represent my style.

[Anonymous No.6295142]

>>6295140
I do paint a lot of robots... is this because my father was the strong silent type?

[Anonymous No.6295189]

>>6294594
I don't get it, why would that help?

[Anonymous No.6295202]

>>6295128
This comment is mental illness. That pic isn't even close to western. There are living breathing nips in Japan who have more "Westoid" lines than that image. I found pic related in 5 minutes, all drawn by japs. You make me embarrassed to enjoy nip media.

[Anonymous No.6295227]

>>6295202
so THIS is the power of asain jains...

[Anonymous No.6295232]

>>6295227
filter dodging is reportable in nature

[Anonymous No.6295241]

>>6295227
Yes. Anyone who fell for asian jeans has simply never met a novice artist nip in their life. Don't let these d/ic/kshitters demoralize you.

[Anonymous No.6295260]

>>6295241
Legit better than 85% of the board, and these are apparently from people who never bothered with senseless fundies and other constructoid nonsense.
You need to reexamine your assumptions.

[Anonymous No.6295262]

>>6295260
Cope idiot, you don't know what these people have or haven't studied and it's no better than the art here. The best bet is neither these nips nor the majority of this board studies fundies and the results for both are similar.

[Anonymous No.6295265]

>>6287481
Take periodic showers to reduce your overall body temperature.

[Anonymous No.6295300]

remember to have fun while drawing so one (me) don't get burnt out and loathe the idea of picking up a pen and draw

[Anonymous No.6295305]

Anytime I hear someone use a noun and end it with "-oid" I immediately disregard anything they say

[Anonymous No.6295307]

i posted an image with 3 hashtags on twitter and instantly got search banned.
how do i cope?

[Anonymous No.6295308]

>>6295305
the earth is an oblate spheroid

[Anonymous No.6295312]

>>6295305
studying sternocleidomastoid is very important for your sucess as an artist

[Anonymous No.6295327]

>>6295308
>>6295312
Opinions discarded, chuds. Blocked.

[Anonymous No.6295339]

>>6294577
Krita has 2 plugins, and one of said plugins has been ported to a paid Photoshop plugin

[Anonymous No.6295361]

>wake up in the morning
>try to draw
>do warmups
>still feel uninspired so just do some studies
>have lunch, exercise, am energized now
>sit down to draw again
>everything is still coming out shitty
>later at night
>when I’m just about to sleep
>the art spirit suddenly possesses my body
>it’s like floodgates are opened and I start drawing like a madman
>I get more ideas in the span of 15 minutes than I do in the whole day
>even my lines are perfect, everything simply flows
>it’s now 1 hour past my bedtime and I’m dead tired
>put down the pencil and go to sleep
>wake up and find the art spirit has left

What’s going on? This happens everyday

[Anonymous No.6295372]

>>6295361
Tension you're trying all day and not letting it happen, when you're unguarded and give up to go to bed it comes in.

[Anonymous No.6295388]

>>6295307
move to tumblr

[Anonymous No.6295450]

>"nip" locks his account
>starts writing in clear, lengthy English posts for an entire week

What the hell is this? Have I been fooled?

[Anonymous No.6295525]

>>6295361
sounds like deadline madness. i had it most of my life, and it always’s cut my sleep in half.
adrenaline rush, energy spike, ‘oh shit, in just a few minutes is the cutoff, the time i should get to sleep.’

[Anonymous No.6295660]

>>6295450
...translator?

[Anonymous No.6295667]

>>6295660
No, the English is too lax and casual to be machine translated.

[Anonymous No.6295680]

>>6295305
Agreed its such a desperate attempt at forcing some gay board lingo from an obvious samefag. Not everything needs to be some cringy fucking meme.

[Anonymous No.6295688]

>>6295450
Japanese is pretty the lingua franca of asian "anime" style artists. It makes sense to write in japanese if that's what most of your audience understands.

[Anonymous No.6295689]

>>6295680
medication on the counter

[Anonymous No.6295697]

I know how to reference a body well enough but if I wanted to draw an anime-ish looking face on top of a body how would I do that? Would I use a real face for reference or should I look up some art that's close to what I'm going for and copy that?

[Anonymous No.6295712]

>>6295697
You can reference a body, but can you construct a body? Have you tried drawing from imagination?

[Anonymous No.6295716]

>>6295712
what does construct a body mean?

[Anonymous No.6295730]

>>6295689
Yeah because some retard spamming a.i. construction and tranime is totally organic

[Anonymous No.6295732]

>>6295689
Yeah because some retard spamming a.i. construction and tranime in the first ten post of nearly every thread is totally organic.

[Anonymous No.6295740]

>>6295716
It's when you draw an object by putting together simplified, but accurate, models of its constituent parts

[Anonymous No.6295742]

>>6295740
ah, like using one reference for the torso and another reference for the arms, is that what you mean?

[Anonymous No.6295743]

>>6295732
That's different.The '-oid' thing is organic.

[Anonymous No.6295744]

>>6295742
No, like this

[Anonymous No.6295745]

>>6295744
ah, I see what you mean. Am I supposed to do this every time? I thought just using a reference was enough

[Anonymous No.6295746]

Using a reference is better, especially while you learn. But construction can still be useful.

[Anonymous No.6295749]

>>6295745
Every time only if you have the problem you're having.

[Anonymous No.6295752]

>>6295749
your advice was helpful but my question was more about how I would reference a particular type of face onto a body. I'm trying to draw more stylized faces but it seems difficult just using a regular womans face

[Anonymous No.6295779]

>>6295746
Construction is useful in 95% of cases. Anyone that says otherwise is lazy and is coping because they're too stupid to pick up a perspective book. This isn't even an argument, if you poo poo construction then you're just a brainlet. Anyone challenging this fact is a moron, you can instantly write them off as retards. I don't like learning it either but there's truths in art that you can't ignore unless you wanted to be limited, personally, I do not so I choose to learn this boring shit so I can make interesting shit without being restricted later. You spend your whole damn life making art, what the fuck is a measly, what, 6 months to a year of studying, maybe 3 hours a day mean compared to a whole life spent drawing and painting?

[Anonymous No.6295832]

>>6295305
I agree totally, their statement is instantly null and void

[Anonymous No.6295833]

>>6295361
When you're about to sleep there is no longer any pressure
If your ideas had come out as shitty wobbly doodles you wouldnt have minded because youre about to sleep anyway
Whereas earlier in the day you feel bad about negative results

[Anonymous No.6295834]

>>6295832
So what? They can still say their opinion.

[Anonymous No.6295836]

>>6295834
The joke is that the post also ends in "-oid"

[Anonymous No.6295837]

>>6295836
ooohh

[Anonymous No.6295845]

Trying to paint a likeness from mirror and portrait model and i just dont fucking get it

[Anonymous No.6295860]

can someone please explain to me why I'm regressing even though I'm drawing every day. or even tell me if it's a common thing? I can manage the pain of not liking my art but when I fail on a commission because I'm just worse than the day/week before, it's enough to make me feel bad that I've spent over five years drawing now. I would say that it's just my eye catching up to me but I find myself falling into old horrible habits of proportion and anatomy that I had when I was just starting, like a bias I accidentally burned into my brain

I would post my work but I don't want clients somehow seeing I post here, even though that's pure paranoia

[Anonymous No.6295927]

been to the dentist everymonth since febuary and im still having toothaches just this nigger keep doing shotty work just end my life

[Anonymous No.6295985]

>>6295927
I don't really visit dentists but I've heard this complaint enough from others that I reckon it's standard practice to gut you for money.

[Anonymous No.6295997]

>>6295927
I went to one 2 weeks ago and I can confirm the work between the Creole girls and the Latino was night and day. Reminder the make you sign a bunch of papers so if something goes wrong you're donezo.

[Anonymous No.6296363]

Whenever I get commissions these days, it always seems to be fetish work from severely autistic people who freak out over a single line overlapping another and want 23756832685762 revisions. But everything else they've commission is really janky - why don't you go back and nitpick those people instead?

Just like my dating life, I attract crazies :/

[Anonymous No.6296494]

all I want to do is fuck webtoon artists

[Anonymous No.6296495]

>1 month and still not done with single comm
idk why my clients just decide to put up with my crap over and over

[Anonymous No.6296657]

>>6296495
Get another artist to do a sketch
Or trace a pose
Then you'll have something to work off off
Or isn't beginning the problem?

[Anonymous No.6296670]

Im autistically doing the same.shit over and over again...
Can someone give me a random exercise?

[Anonymous No.6296672]

>>6296670
What are you doing now so we don't give you the same exercise

[Anonymous No.6296693]

>>6295860
I have the same problem. You think that to get better you have to learn new techniques, and replace the old techniques. So you're stuck trying to draw a certain element in a piece because there are an infinite amount of ways to draw eyes but you just want the correct answer out of those millions so you keep trying different things while other artists draw the exact same way every day and never improve but their art is already great so they finished grinding while you barely even started because you have no style just different ways to draw turds.

[Anonymous No.6296694]

>>6295744
Those drawings are fucking shit though. So construction let's you draw stuff ugly men?

Stop using construction, use gesture instead

[Anonymous No.6296697]

>>6296694
Post your gestures

[Anonymous No.6296698]

>>6295985
I wouldn't even care if if it wasn't such a song and a dance just to see said dentist whenever something goes wrong. This is 4rd time i had a tooth ache this year because of the shitty work and i always have to wait 2-3 hrs just to get numbed it's fucking ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.6296994]

>>6296694
I was going to say "you can use construction to draw other things than..." But you probably don't draw to begin with

[Anonymous No.6297017]

>>6296694
>Stop using construction, use gesture instead
you and people like you are such braindead fucking non artists

[Anonymous No.6297030]

>>6296694
>Stop using construction, use gesture instead
topkek why do permabegs even leave their containment thread

[Anonymous No.6297044]

>>6296694
>Stop using construction, use gesture instead
it tickles me pink that you can be noob enough to make a statement like this seriously

[Anonymous No.6297098]

>>6296672
Self portraits

[Anonymous No.6297117]

>>6297098
Do structures, perspective stuff cityscapes behicles etc.
Rigid stuff not mushy

[Anonymous No.6297682]

anyone else think about the "optimal" end game digital art style to pursue? obviously theres infinite but for simplicity ill condense it to between league splash art and anime stylized
i personally prefer an (for lack of better words) "anime" stylized one, with all sorts of colors and heavily stylized lighting, it makes me *feel* something. however the western industry seems to heavily prefer rendered league splash art style. this isn't an east vs west post those are cringe and i like both styles.
is it that the majority find the league art more impressive because it's more realistic? to me one style is way more appealing than the other, but shown the two side by side what would most people prefer?
am i shooting myself in the foot by practicing towards more stylized stuff like picrel?

[Anonymous No.6297696]

>>6297682
>am i shooting myself in the foot by practicing towards more stylized stuff like picrel?
no

[Anonymous No.6297727]

>If I listen to music, streams, audio books, or vc with anybody while drawing I start to lose focus and begin just focusing on the other thing
>Very obvious that I have to be one of those guys that draws in silence
>"Okay"
>Draw in silence
>Silence makes we self aware of how lonely I am and I get anxious, makes drawing miserable
I just can't fucking win

[Anonymous No.6297731]

Redlining/tracing old art because don't make more work for yourself than you need to. Lisa is still too fucking small though.

Also I'm coming to the realization that drawing this guy takes 4x as long because he has like, bones and shit

[Anonymous No.6297733]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.6297737]

>>6297733
Valid

[Anonymous No.6297738]

>>6297727
Try like rain sounds or some ambience on youtube

[Anonymous No.6298051]

>>6297727
speaking from experience as a lonely retard with attention problems: get the thing you would want to listen to ready in a tab, paused. for me, i have a tab of a stream open (i pick a game and streamer im familiar with), and i have a tab with some music thats looped/extended, usually vidya OST. i have both so i can switch between them if i need something more or less distracting.
optionally, also put on some pink/brown noise and keep it on. this counts as silence in my opinion (i need this because i live in a loud area, skip it if you dont need it).
now work in silence for 10 measly minutes on whatever it is youre drawing, and after those 10 minutes are up you can either keep going in silence or pop something on to listen on if you really feel you need it still, and immediately go back to drawing after you do.

maybe this sounds specific but its how i gear my brain into "work" mode. it also might not work particularly well for quick pose drawing or whatever but you could assume that already. as for being in a vc, its just tough, i tend to either go quiet or ramble like an idiot, but its better than not talking to anyone the whole day. hope this helps a little.

[Anonymous No.6298123]

I wish I had a dad that actually gave a shit about me and had interest in my aspirations

[Anonymous No.6298157]

What are good art classes to take? I can get away with learning stuff like perspective on my own, but color theory seems more complicated. I'm also a bit apprehensive due to the reputation art teachers have for being hacks.

[Anonymous No.6298161]

>>6298157
>learning stuff like perspective on my own, but color theory seems more complicated
Wrong straight away, your first step is learning that you aren't better than any teacher.

[Anonymous No.6298164]

>>6298161
There are definitely concepts that are more complicated than others, Anon.

[Anonymous No.6298169]

>>6298164
Perspective as a concept is easily the most unintuitive part of drawing. Leonardo da Vinci made extensive but clunky use of one point perspective and would have his mind absolutely blown by modern techniques.
It's not just the point perspective thing but how forms interact and overlap in a scene, the canvas is not flat but a window to a world and learning perspective is a precursor to learning that.
Color theory is just subjective handwaving.

[Anonymous No.6298224]

AI shills have made me into an actual racist.

[Anonymous No.6298260]

God my job takes up so much of my time now, I fucking hate being an "adult".
I'm really tired all the time but I try to sit down and draw after work.

I'm honestly trying really hard to keep that balance.

[Anonymous No.6298497]

Magic 8 ball, am I going to make it?

[Anonymous No.6298499]

>>6298497
I... I won.

[Anonymous No.6298510]

Why did I have to be born in America? Comics are dead here

[Anonymous No.6298522]

>>6298510

You could have been born anywhere else where there is no internet access for you to make such a post.

[Anonymous No.6298827]

Anxiety anon update, finished a depression episode.

>Graphic Design job hasn't "technically" started yet as the project I'm suppose to be apart of doesn't need to start yet.
>Over a month now and twiddling my thumbs waiting to go.
>Already did a follow up email and was told they would reach out when ready
>Paid all my rent and bills but no money for food and supplies to clean
>goes into a full depression episode
>literally tar builds up on two different teeth from just not brushing and stay in bed all day.
>finally force myself to shower and just walk to a retail store later to apply for a possible stockroom gig so I don't starve.
>finally check email to clear spam
>gets a bunch of all caps "RESPOND IMMEDIATELY" emails
>honestly about to through up thinking I forgot to pay something important
>Email about how I ended up getting accepted into the mentorship program I applied to over a month ago.
>Cries a little like a bitch because I don't feel so pathetic now.
>Still need to do some sort of retail or burger flipping now more than ever until the graphic design job gets back to me so my internet doesn't shut off during the online program.

I hope I can pull myself together before the first group meeting. I'm not going to lie even with this good news I feel a little dead but it might just be hunger. I hope you all are making it.

[Anonymous No.6298924]

when does marmalade mum stream? i want to hear it talk to see if its a tranny and also peep the draw process

[Anonymous No.6299057]

>>6298510
learn Japanese! Or gamble with webtoons

>>6298522
based positive thinking anon

[Anonymous No.6299081]

Where can one go to post drawings and take requests (that isn't going to give me brainworms)? I tried drawpile but I'm /beg/ and I can't really keep up with the randoms there

[Anonymous No.6299084]

>>6298224
Good, we need to destroy the work of (((Sergei Brin))) and (((Larry Page)))

[Anonymous No.6299850]

>japanese artist on twitter
>70% of tweets are pictures of food
seriously what the fuck is their problem
do they get discount coupons for doing this

[Anonymous No.6299857]

I'm trying to revise and finalize character design but I can't decide, where is the best place to ask for opinions taking into account I have no social media presence?

[Anonymous No.6300604]

>>6299850
いただきます

[Anonymous No.6300667]

>>6300604
食べ過ぎました。。。
悪いですね

[Anonymous No.6300672]

>>6299850
I follow a jap novelist and I check his twitter daily for any news on the next volume he said he'd release early this year. 90% of his posts are about food and gacha seriously wtf