/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6281356]

Fun fact for all you NGMIs worried about AI.
The cost of AI training puts it out of reach for the overwhelming majority of companies.

The shitposting AI everyone uses for Art cost over 600 000 dollars just in GPU time to train it on it's current restricted dataset and that's viewed as very cheap in comparison to most other AI.
GPT-3 cost over 5 million dollars.

Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.6281360]

>>6281356
5 million is nothing to a big corporation
nothing to Elon Musk, who hates artists for some reason and is one of the founders of the Open AI foundation.

[Anonymous No.6281366]

>>6281360
>5 million is nothing to a big corporation
It's quite a lot to most.
Yes, FAANGs can afford to throw that kind of money away but they already only want horrendous modern clip-art in that globohomo vector art style that costs fuck all to make in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6281370]

"It takes 600,000 dollars to train the GPU dataset for 4 AI generic works"

[Anonymous No.6281377]

>>6281360
Elon sucks but he’s not unique in this. The vast majority of normies hate or resent artists even as they obsess over the shit that artists create.

[Anonymous No.6281378]

>>6281366
It’s called Memphis corporate you pleb

[Anonymous No.6281379]

>>6281356
Oh, and this is unlikely to change anytime soon since GPUs are being kept up in price artificially even at a point where all the chinese coin miners are dumping them and other HW improvements aren't moving forward that fast since we hit the predictions in Moore's law.

[Anonymous No.6281381]

>>6281378
No one cares what Alegria and Google want it to be called.
Everyone just calls it globohomo.

[Anonymous No.6281445]

>>6281356
Distributed training will be a thing eventually
Just have it train on everyonea gaming gpus worldwide

[Anonymous No.6281464]

>>6281377
>The vast majority of normies hate or resent artists
No, this is just not true. The vast majority don't give a shit about artists, in the same way they don't give a shit about most professions they don't regularly interact with personally.

[Anonymous No.6281549]

>>6281356
>>6281360
If you oppose AI, then you are literally and inherently a supporter of Communism, GloboHomo, Ukraine (onions), and homesexuals. No denying this. Elon is based and his support for this tech will overturn the Woke Left's monopoly mafia racket on art. The AI has drastically improved in a time span of just two weeks, it improÃÃ��पेस्टves every time new prompt is posted.

[Anonymous No.6281560]

>>6281356
>600 000 dollars
that's literally no money lol. you think disney wouldn't drop $100 million on shit like this?

[Anonymous No.6281570]

>AI monkeys will never know the joy of looking back at their sketchbooks and older art, looking at how they've progressed, being proud of their mind's creation and skill development
>they never even appreciated the evolution of individual artists in the first place
>their "progress" will be reflected collectively based on "models"
>they will all face the same limits collectively, because they're not doing shit themselves
how the fuck do they delude themselves so much that anyone will be envious of them. what is wrong with these losers getting into something they hate?

[Anonymous No.6281577]

>>6281570
and you will never be a woman
so what?

[Anonymous No.6281584]

>>6281356
You have no idea what are you talking about. Waifu diffusion was trained in less than a week on consumer grade hardware. No one but large corpos who can afford it is going to train model from zero.
Pretraining is a thing, you know.

[Anonymous No.6281593]

>>6281356
>The shitposting AI everyone uses for Art cost over 600 000 dollars just in GPU time to train it on it's current restricted dataset and that's viewed as very cheap in comparison to most other AI.
>GPT-3 cost over 5 million dollars.
That's not a lot of money. That's within reach of the western lower richfag class. There are hundreds of thousands of people and corporations who have that kind of money to spend on projects.

[Anonymous No.6281601]

>>6281584
It wasn't trained from scratch, it was finetuned. You don't even know the garbage you're trying to shill, /g/tard.

[Anonymous No.6281605]

i could personally afford to train it if it's only $600k to create an ai. that's nothing compared to labor

[Anonymous No.6281612]

>>6281593
>That's within reach of the western lower richfag class.
Nah, they might have that kind of money but the average corporation that has that isn't able to spend it on art that costs a few thousand a year across the entire corporation if they aren't just outsourcing it.
They're beholden to their shareholders to some extent.
If one of them gets a lot of sales and good image from AI art then all bets are off but until then I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.6281614]

>>6281593
emad is payrolling over 75 fulltime employees right now as well as a bunch of other shit as well to get this crap off the ground, they have the worlds third strongest super computer too or something

[Anonymous No.6281617]

>>6281601
>No one but large corpos who can afford it is going to train model from zero.
Reading comprehension? Hello?

[Anonymous No.6281618]

>>6281605
>it if it's only $600k to create an ai.
It's 600k only to pay for the computing time to run the code training it. As in paying Amazon or Microsoft for enough ASIC GPUs running for several hundred hours.
That's not counting anything surrounding it like the cost of AI engineers, design, code, finetuning and so on.
To be fair SD might have reusable code and design at this point I haven't looked into what they've shared.

[Anonymous No.6281621]

>>6281612
Even if you discount corporations, which is a strange thing to do when it comes to R&D, there are literally millions of private millionaires in this world. Sorry, but OP is just coping. This shit will continue.

[Anonymous No.6281624]

artsisters itt don't realize it's not about them and art, the goal is to create agi, and corporations are ready to sink into picture generators as much money as possible

[Anonymous No.6281627]

>>6281621
the irony in all this is i bet there are barely any working artists who would have 600k to invest in their own projects kek even the topdogs barely have any money

[Anonymous No.6281633]

21 139.
That's the number of companies in the US with more than 50 employees.
Only a subset of those can afford to waste money on AI and only a subset of those would bother when art monkeys average aren't terribly expensive if they're not permanent employees.

[Anonymous No.6281637]

>>6281633
That's enough. Not even going into that all the big tech mega-corporations are all gung ho about this shit as well.

[Anonymous No.6281643]

>>6281584
And the pictures still look like shit.

[Anonymous No.6281644]

>>6281637
For now.
There's been several AI Winters before when people got buttmad about the limitations and costs of ML and cut funding.

[Anonymous No.6281646]

>>6281612
Average corporation isn't going to develop AI in the first place. They will just buy enterprise licence from someone who does.
OP is a faggot as always. "It cost Adobe millions to develop Photoshop. Do you really think your average artist would spend so much money to get into digital art when he can just buy paint and brushes for 20$?

[Anonymous No.6281649]

>>6281644
Well, it's impossible to predict the future. I think this shit has too much potential to be left alone.

[Anonymous No.6281651]

>>6281633
But existing art AIs are either free or cost pennies per picture made.

[Anonymous No.6281687]

Fun fact for all you NGMIs worried about computers.
The cost of OS development puts them out of reach for the overwhelming majority of companies.

The shitposting OS everyone uses (Windows) cost over 10bn dollars just in developer time and that's viewed as very cheap in comparison to most other OSes
Linux cost over 50 billion dollars.

Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.6281962]

>>6281356
Yes it takes a ridiculous amount of effort to train a model from scratch, but that's from scratch. It takes one person to do most of the hard stuff, then individuals can fine tune the model using their own (more reasonable) setups which we're already seeing with Stable Diffusion.

[Anonymous No.6281975]

>>6281687
i didnt realize these ai models are actually constructing meshes underneath. That's pretty fucking impressive.

[Anonymous No.6281980]

>>6281975
stable diffusion, dalle etc aren't, this is an app being developed by the vroid team for vtubers

[Anonymous No.6281984]

Can we fucking have MODS on this board or I should apply a fucking janitor

[Anonymous No.6282009]

>>6281360
>who hates artists for some reason
Didn't his literal artist and musician girlfriend who bore his child run away to fuck a liberal politics tranny?

[Anonymous No.6282012]

>>6281356
theres a guy on twitter training his own ai to do whatever he wants it to
its not that hard m8

[Anonymous No.6282013]

>>6281984
considering how fast ai advances you might have to apply for a real janitor soon, artboy

[Anonymous No.6282014]

>>6282013
OWNED

[Anonymous No.6282016]

someone explain how these ai generators are supposed to help established artists

[Anonymous No.6282017]

>>6281687
Just watching this thing auto-correct the eye sizes so they're not too big or small, or changing the head size, but not the shape, so that it all fits the standard cookie cutter design - it just makes me dread how same-samey everything will be in the future.

[Anonymous No.6282020]

>>6282009
Yeah. He doesn't hate artists or trannies that much, he just hates one specific tranny and one specific artist a lot.

[Anonymous No.6282410]

>>6281549
Bot glitching out.
AI is supposed to be the "democratication of art" according to liberal techfags

[Anonymous No.6282437]

>>6281549
supporting russia is trying support someone with terminal cancer, you just outed yourself as a poojet not speaking english