/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.6248312]

>AI can't replace SOUL
>AI can't
>AI

Once it starts being able to make hentai and furry porn it's over

[Anonymous No.6248314]

so when is the average consumer going to realize they can become a professional "prompt engineer" too in under 10 minutes?

[Anonymous No.6248322]

>>6248312
Where do you even get the programs to make this art?

[Anonymous No.6248332]

>digitally manipulated photo

[Anonymous No.6248362]

>>6248332
No need to spam every thread trying to defend this shit, Sincarnate.

[Anonymous No.6248367]

anyone live in colorado kek
[in vidya]

[Anonymous No.6248371]

I see no soul there, cyborgtranny

[Anonymous No.6248376]

>>6248312
digitrannies seething lol...traditional chads win again.

[Anonymous No.6248383]

literally cheating because the AI has to learn from a bunch of stolen images

[Anonymous No.6248389]

>>6248332
Lmao it's real

[Anonymous No.6248412]

can ai fags get their own board already
Im here to do art not learn about use of arcane horror's beyond human comprehension for making "artwork"
how does one even provide critique to this shit?
its quite literally backseat "artistry" with ai doing the work
this is fundamentally against the purpose of this board
when will the mods contain ai fags to their own board?
videogames get three variant boards so why do we have to put up with aifags poisoning our wells?
these nigger can't even maintain a damned general for themselves

[Anonymous No.6248417]

>>6248312 would love to know if the people in the contest knew it was all AI generated and not done by him

[Anonymous No.6248418]

>>6248312
>soul
>looks like any other midjourney generated shit
when hordes of retards will attempt to do the same thing and present their same looking nonsensical space opera imagery, how do you think the scam will unfold then?

[Anonymous No.6248420]

>>6248412
AI is art. New artists entering the industry will be forced to learn how to use AI, art part of their jobs.

[Anonymous No.6248423]

>>6248420
buying an inflatable sex doll is dating

[Anonymous No.6248424]

>>6248412
They already have.but their faggotry is too big to be contained in >>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.6248428]

>>6248420
Thats like saying that translator will learn to use google translate you huge faggot

[Anonymous No.6248429]

>>6248417
exactly
the asshole lied about how the art was made
these ai shitters really are a pathetic bunch

im willing to bet the retard doesnt even advertise this "contest win" on his socials knowing he would be called out

[Anonymous No.6248431]

>>6248423
ordering food is cooking

[Anonymous No.6248440]

>>6248423
>>6248431
The difference with these is that you pay more for lower quality result. Meanwhile AI art saves your time and produces better result than most artists could.
>>6248417
>>6248429
How fucking old are you, holy shit? Here's the truth about our world: people DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK about how the sausage is made. They want the result.

[Anonymous No.6248443]

>>6248440
AI art is generic trash but you're too dumb to see that.

[Anonymous No.6248445]

>>6248440
Would people care if they knew the sausage was made from ground up artists q_q

[Anonymous No.6248447]

>>6248440
>people DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK about how the sausage is made. They want the result.
cope
you know he lied about doing the images himself and that he would be assblasted if he told the truth
same reason no one is getting anywhere with this ai shit while even the shittier twitter artists keep doing their thing as if nothing happenned

you parasites should burn

[Anonymous No.6248451]

>>6248312
Midjourney scenes all look the same. you could make a very simple prompt generator and get millions of these swooshy/bloomy/epic!!! pics.

[sage No.6248452]

> 5 ai threads front page
its like jannies want this place to be worse

[Anonymous No.6248453]

>>6248420
yes but there's no established fucking modus operandi
how does the average artist even critique or provide advice beyond sharing keywords and "le prompts sentences"
Im not arguing over its legitimacy as artwork heavens no thats your conundrum roblem to deal with
no what i'm asking is why do you get to make shitty slide threads with no valuable discourse beyond "ai will kill the art industry" fear mongering its always that with a mix of smug attention whore artist thrown in for flavor
By definition none of this is fundamentally in line with board's stated purpose (artwork critique)
how does one even critique this if at all and why would the average conventional pencil paper artist want these discussions in his forums?
no offence but Ai art is still a niche and overall aint something the average joe artist would or should care about
outside the flavorful occassional shit-posting i see no reason for Ai threads like this one to be tolerated
a single general thread like the pixel art or animation thread should suffice

[Anonymous No.6248462]

>>6248453
anon...
a group of retards combined with a few jannies are all shitting up the board
they are going school shooter style over /ic/ the only way they know how
by typing words in a keyboard in the comfort of their homes without knowing what touching grass feels like

but it makes sense doesnt it?
if you are an ai shitter what board, forum and groups would you attack?
the art dedicated ones

[Anonymous No.6248465]

>>6248443
>>6248445
>>6248447
Again, people don't give a fuck. People want the result. Listen, I'm not saying it's a good thing. But it is how it works.
The fact no one even asked how he made these or asked him to show his portfolio is a dead giveaway on how much people care about the process. THIS is the truth. It's not about AI. It's not about AI at all. It's about people, about the current generation that doesn't give a fuck how anything is made. Take green energy fags for example. They don't give a fuck about their "green" car porducing even more devastating damage to the enviroment once disposed, because it will damage someone elses country in like 10 years.
We live in a world where the content is disposable, and your drawings are not art. They're content. People give it one look and move on. Content is disposable, and that means there need to be a steady and fast supply. You're delusional if you don't think this shit won't inflate the market.
Again, this is not about AI at all. It's not even about what people think. It's about how people actually act and operate.

[Anonymous No.6248471]

>>6248452
>STAHP IT! MY NEOVAGINA IS CLOSING!

[Anonymous No.6248472]

>>6248423
>>6248431

[Anonymous No.6248477]

>>6248453
>yes but there's no established fucking modus operandi
Img2Img. AI can turn your concept art into working pieces easily.

[Anonymous No.6248478]

>>6248462
>they are going school shooter style over /ic/ the only way they know how

[Anonymous No.6248479]

>>6248465
Is "torrenting" just a thing musicians should accept? It robs them of their livelihood and kills the art. The same applies to machine Art. It just plagiarizes human art, and whenever humans make further innovations, it just gets re-fed back into the machine, which once again floods the marketplace with illegitimate knock-offs.

[Anonymous No.6248482]

>>6248479
AI is 10000x worse than torrenting. AI is creative rape.

[Anonymous No.6248484]

>>6248482
Lol learn2code unironically

[Anonymous No.6248486]

>>6248440
>how the sausage is made
implying the average person likes art for the pretty colors and not for the context around it lol
you're like those redditors that think reeling in an asteroid with gold and metals in it will make em rich instead of inflating the market and dropping the value of everything to shit
with all due respect you don't realize the horrors you have unleashed upon the world
no matter how much you justify it despite market conditions saturating society with cheaply produced "effficient" chinese good will inevitably have a negative impact on society
you won't be pumping our masterpieces everyday and become a renowned artist no you'll be just another in a sea of cheap visually impressive trash that will devalue art as whole
it will be a ride worthy of it all you're at the pride before the fall stage of things you'll come around soon and we'll be waiting with open arms

>>6248462
I'm providing a solution rather than complaining about th mischief
establishing an Ai board seems like the natural next step
think back to the ponyfag invasion this is quite literally the same with the same breed of attention whore nobodies jumping onto the next new thing

[Anonymous No.6248487]

>>6248453
>>6248452
Good posts.

[Anonymous No.6248490]

>>6248482
Stable diffusion was trained on 5.8 million fucking images scraped from the internet, without permission

[Anonymous No.6248491]

>>6248482
No, I'm sorry, 5.8 BILLION images.

[Anonymous No.6248493]

[Anonymous No.6248495]

>>6248490
>>6248479
>>6248491
>without permission
Should've read the agreement when you registered and posted your art on social media
Don't be mad at me just playing devil's advocate. We made a lot of mistakes by dealing with social media

[Anonymous No.6248496]

>>6248428
They will if google translate translates better than they do.

[Anonymous No.6248498]

>>6248495
don't get mad when when the lawsuits start flying either

[Anonymous No.6248499]

>>6248495
so you're siding with the mega corps milking you and everyone for cretivity without any of the profits?
am i hearing this right lol

[Anonymous No.6248508]

>>6248493
bro that shit is crazy, went to her twitter to see the whole thread and check it myself
good luck not getting sued into oblivion

[Anonymous No.6248511]

>>6248420
>>6248312
>>6248440
>>6248453
>>6248465
>>6248478
Degenerates like you belong on a cross.

All other anons in the thread props to you fir not being retardnation.

[Anonymous No.6248515]

>>6248376
>>traditional chads win again

That faggot literally submitted his A.I shit as a printed product.

[Anonymous No.6248516]

>>6248511
cry some more

[Anonymous No.6248523]

>>6248453
>By definition none of this is fundamentally in line with board's stated purpose (artwork critique)
>how does one even critique this if at all and why would the average conventional pencil paper artist want these discussions in his forums?
LMAO, /ic/'s art crtique can be summed up as one word "pyw" or "beg", or some other variation of "it's shit and I draw better". There is no critque here, nobody learns anything the "critque" here. /ic/ is not being used for the "intended purpose" but it's being used to discuss art in general. How are daily "talent", "asian genes", "i'm not going to make it" posts relevant art critque?

[Anonymous No.6248527]

>>6248440
I mean theres a certain amount insects parts and feces aloud in ground meat that the FDA approves
>would you want to learn that your food had a higher amount

[Anonymous No.6248531]

>>6248527
>aloud
American education everyone.

[Anonymous No.6248532]

>>6248495
https://laion-aesthetic.datasette.io/laion-aesthetic-6pls/images
if you look at this 0.2% sample of Stable Diffusion's dataset, you'll see most are scraped from pinterest (which is all reposts, not a site that artists use to post directly to)

[Anonymous No.6248533]

>>6248490
5.8 billion*

[Anonymous No.6248534]

>>6248312
I read that twitter thread. Dumbass doomposters crying about how this is the first step towards the death of human artists is the funniest shit ever.

The demand for human artists will literally never die out. There is intrinsic value in a piece made by a human that an AI will never be able to possess -- the amount of time that the artist has to master their skills and the fact that it was made by a human being and not an algorithm. The vast majority of humans have that inherent bias and will to do so.

AI art is just another emerging area of art and will most likely have its own place in the future, but I imagine it will still get bashed and hazed years from now by other artists since it's the new kid on the block. It's the same shit that's been happening with contemporary art right now.

[Anonymous No.6248535]

>>6248508
>>6248532
AI is nothing without these stolen images. It's just a fancy search engine

[Anonymous No.6248536]

>>6248531
alright allowed
>also another fun food fact most packed food you'll get prob had at least 1 maggot grounded and some could equal about 1part per gram

[Anonymous No.6248537]

>>6248515
printed pieces are ultra noticeable. Also he submitted it into a digital category. The traditional categories would've been a log more strict with rules.

[Anonymous No.6248539]

>>6248536
So does the air you breathe so what's the point?

[Anonymous No.6248540]

>>6248535
She asked him about monetising their model too and he basically said "lawyer up buddy we're going commercial next month whether you like it or not" lol
she asked some follow up questions to clarify and he's ignoring her now (emad won't talk to anyone regarding the ethics of the artist situation in all of this; he ignored kotaku as well when they published an article recently)
https://twitter.com/EMostaque/status/1563690349347971072

[Anonymous No.6248541]

>>6248540
>AI filter
they aren't even hiding it lol

[Anonymous No.6248543]

>>6248535
This. If the non artist developers coding this actually put in their own artwork, it'd be garbage in garbage out; completely unusable. Every single machine learning art generator is built off stolen art. And these fucks have the gall to market it like the AI just ~magically created art~ out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.6248544]

>>6248539
nothing really someone just made another food analogy and
>>6248440
said people don't care how food is made

[Anonymous No.6248549]

>>6248540
This Karla person is too nice. These AI fucks know full well it's wrong/illegal etc under copyright, they're just trying to cash out before the law catches up.

[Anonymous No.6248550]

>>6248541
>>6248543
I keep thinking about the milkshake scene from There will be Blood.

[Anonymous No.6248552]

>>6248535
so it is a search engine that finds what doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.6248553]

>>6248552
it's a search engine that interpolates between different points of data.

[Anonymous No.6248556]

>>6248549
Silicon Valley won't care about ethics until you take them to court

[Anonymous No.6248564]

>>6248556
Hopefully she and any other artists do talk to lawyers. Maybe if there's enough of a legal tangle, Adobe and whoever else will drop these scummy fuckers.

[Anonymous No.6248567]

>>6248564
these people are psychopaths

[Anonymous No.6248572]

>>6248498
>when the lawsuits start flying
Name one time individual won a lawsuit against a company AND it stopped a trend

[Anonymous No.6248573]

>>6248499
>megacorps
I am doing this in my mother's basement on an open source tool. What megacorps and what profits?

[Anonymous No.6248575]

>>6248511
>Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
stay mad hoe

[Anonymous No.6248576]

>>6248567
You can feel the disgusting head-up-their-asses techbro-speak oozing from that first tweet. NFT/crypto shitters talk like that too. Makes my skin crawl.

[Anonymous No.6248577]

>>6248573
remember if something is free, you are the product.
Don't forget Amazon is one of the largest investors in Stable AI!

[Anonymous No.6248578]

>>6248553
A human does that too.

[Anonymous No.6248580]

>>6248578
see >>6248535

[Anonymous No.6248582]

>>6248490
>>6248491
>>6248493
How many of these images are TRULY original and how do you prove in a court that they're original

[Anonymous No.6248583]

>>6248576
>NFT/crypto shitters talk like that too.
Lol I don't even have to pay some faggot artist on Fiverr for NFT art now. Ez money for NFT chads
>pic related

[Anonymous No.6248584]

>>6248580
>humans are nothing without education
hoes mad. tick tock

[Anonymous No.6248585]

>>6248582
databases are big money. it doesn't matter how you abstract the source in your compression algorithm. creating a database from billions and billions of images you do not own and then profiting off of it without consent from the artists is both illegal and undemocratic

[Anonymous No.6248586]

>>6248491
OY VEY!!! Stable diffusion shoah'd 5.8 Billion images

[Anonymous No.6248587]

>>6248583
NFT "artists" are part of the problem. I couldn't care less. Also enjoy the crypto crash I guess.

[Anonymous No.6248588]

>>6248585
>without consent from the artists
The artist lost his rights to the image the moment he uploaded it on social media. The the policies you sign

[Anonymous No.6248589]

>>6248585
>it doesn't matter how you abstract the source in your compression algorithm.
It does matter retard. That's what fair use is. Entropy exists

[Anonymous No.6248594]

>>6248588
most of the images from laion's dataset were scraped from pinterest (which is not a social media platform or first party posting site, it's an aggregator like reddit, so it has nothing to do with policies). there are images in the database from danbooru including a lot of game cgs which were never shared by the companies or owner of the IP anywhere on the internet.
>>6248589
fair use does not hold as when the derivative displaces the market of the original product.

[Anonymous No.6248596]

>>6248594
>the derivative displaces the market of the original product.
If an autist in his basement can displace your market, you didn't have a market in the first place

[Anonymous No.6248597]

>>6248465
Anon, you're trying to reason with mentally ill, emotionally driven and intellectually underdeveloped alphabet soup politics consumers who attach their own existence to the idea of being an artist.
Giving them an ounce of reality doesn't work because their own fantasy world are far more convenient for them and will only make them mad since you're forcing them out of their bubble.

Let them suffer while they parade how AI will never be able to do anything and how people will surely give free money to artists for existing and being "real artists".

[Anonymous No.6248603]

>>6248596
the entire concept art and illustration industries are scared shitless by this tech, including a lot of veterans
yes being an artist is a difficult path but there are job opportunities. after this there will be nothing

[Anonymous No.6248610]

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1661934850973567.webm

This is the whole AI thing in one webm

[Anonymous No.6248613]

I made this art myself with a little help from some programs like and stuff Vegas, SD, Recode it was hard but I'm happy that everyone can now see it.

[Anonymous No.6248616]

>>6248603
I only draw as hobby so idk the industry exactly, but I feel like this will go the way of clothing. There used to be a lot more tailors. Now cheap clothes are everywhere but if you want custom made, you still need a professional. Plus the people who go out of their way to buy sustainable, or from local artisans etc.

[Anonymous No.6248631]

I read all the cheers and scares then go back to check on reality and see the majority of these gazibillion art accounts that are followed and and create profit are shit tier goth/pastel/shit girls who do these below /beg/ tier. Calm you raging tits /ic/.

Just check on any famous ""insta artist"" youtube, twitter...etc. and you'll see the main reason no one will give a fuck about AI after using it for few times is this feeling human/soul parasocial relationships.
You'll see those same dumbasses crawl back to these 14 y.o. artists and defend hoomanity from AI like a new cause with it's own flag and colors, and remember this anon when that happens kek

[Anonymous No.6248638]

>>6248412
You should fight it retard, not ignore it. What a coward

[Anonymous No.6248640]

>>6248499
You posting on twitter is playing megacorp's game.You lost the moment you didn't choose personal website.

[Anonymous No.6248644]

nothing will happen until the ai starts generating mario art or some shit and nintendo sues them

[Anonymous No.6248653]

imagine a thief who has stolen a sack of wheat flour from one mill, and a sack of rye flour from another
the thief mixes them together in a new, larger sack, then begins selling portions of it to local bakers
the thief has created a new product, and is able to sell it cheaper than the mills

[Anonymous No.6248658]

>>6248631
Now that artists are oppressed, we are going to get representation in LGBTQIAP++ and a new color on the fag. what color do we want? Payne’s grey?

[Anonymous No.6248666]

>>6248638
feeding a troll doesnt kill it anon
lol stay mad

[Anonymous No.6248675]

>>6248653
Imagine an artist, taking a picture of a naked model, and an anime head from the current anime of the week, he put the head on top of the naked model, paints clothes over it, then begins selling the nude pictures on patreon
the artist has created a new product and if you say anything you're just jealous and a beg ngmi schizo

Now, imagine a computer program building a neural algorithm based on the images it sees, tries reproducing new images from the visual information it processed, thus the computer program is a thief and should be banned for daring to look at pictures that are freely available on the internet because, it should just be like i say, ok? Go like and subscribe to my social media and donate to my patreon.

[Anonymous No.6248678]

>>6248653
>food analogy

[Anonymous No.6248681]

https://reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/x23in7/cant_help_but_feel_like_a_poser_for_selling_these/
Jesus christ almighty

[Anonymous No.6248683]

>>6248678
have you ever eaten a bag of raw flour before

[Anonymous No.6248688]

>>6248675
computer programs aren't autonomous
>build bank robber robot
>robot robs bank, brings loot to my place
>uh officer, the robot did it

[Anonymous No.6248696]

>>6248688
Yes, actually now I see my argument was pretty dumb. Thanks for correcting me.

[Anonymous No.6248701]

>>6248678
problem?

[Anonymous No.6248703]

Who cares babes. The whole point of art is transmitting human emotion and experience. This isn't art. Yah sure it will make it harder to make money but at its essence we're dealing with an empty husk trying to pretend it's something it's not. Let the redditers fawn over it all they want, it only makes them look silly.

[Anonymous No.6248704]

>>6248681
Man, what a whiny fucking baby.

[Anonymous No.6248716]

>>6248681
>I think there are a lot of people in this sub who want to think of themselves as artists because they're insecure and have no real creative accomplishments of their own and these AI tools provides them with an easy means to pass off someone/something else's art as their own without any legal repercussions.
This guy hit the nail on the head.

[Anonymous No.6248727]

>>6248696
I didn't really know how to address the first part of your post
all of this is pushing me further into nihilism, however

[Anonymous No.6248733]

>>6248688
>AI isn't autonomous
Retard.
>.....but the robot did it
Shit strawman.

Why do you talk about shit you don't even understand?
AI won't suddenly disappear if you accuse it of imaginary crimes or how it makes you feel bad.
>>6248696
Nigger.

[Anonymous No.6248735]

>>6248727
nta but it still takes time/skill on the part of the artist to paint and render decent looking clothes and skin. That's the different here that creates a new product.

[Anonymous No.6248740]

>>6248681

[Anonymous No.6248748]

>>6248733
you're the equivalent of a gpt bot

[Anonymous No.6248752]

>>6248748
Just because i reply to you?
If you don't want people to argue with you, go back to your tranny server, nigger.

[Anonymous No.6248753]

>>6248733
We can add more steps if you like, doesn't make this AI shit any more correct.
>build bank robber robot
>robot robs bank's gold bars
>robot melts gold bars into one gold statue
>no officer, it's mine now, i made the statue

[Anonymous No.6248755]

>>6248701
mmm yes... but also

[Anonymous No.6248757]

>>6248752
when you look in a mirror, do you see a soul in your eyes?
I imagine they are empty

[Anonymous No.6248762]

>>6248753
And again; shitty strawman.
You're already going into accusatory territory instead of actually observing what the thing you're talking is doing.
>the AI is doing a crime because i say it is
>thus the AI is doing a crime because [insert strawman analogy here]
Tell me what the AI is doing without going into made up accusations, speculation or false information.
If you can't do that, you have no argument and no one will take you seriously.

[Anonymous No.6248766]

>>6248762
that's not what a strawman is
stop using words you don't know the meaning of

[Anonymous No.6248769]

>>6248762
Read the thread dummy.
>>6248490
>>6248540
>>6248594
The image database used to train the machine learning AI is from copyrighted images. That's the bank robbing part. And the developers know it too. That's why they all clam up when asked by the actual artists.

[Anonymous No.6248771]

>>6248314
lol

[Anonymous No.6248773]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32658408#32660138
>why did tranime take over /ic/ I want to talk about manly CONCEPT ART
This is what concept art is as of August 31st 2022, it’s literally already standard to use AI on everything.
The job of a concept artist has already been reduced to “AI wrangler”, there’s your fucking concept art.

[Anonymous No.6248776]

I wonder if an ai could be trained to determine whether or not an image was produced by ai or not

[Anonymous No.6248778]

>>6248420
Hi yes i am a professional ai artist. it took me all of 10 seconds to learn how to enter a command prompt and a shitty idea to make become one of the hundred millions of other professional ai artists

[Anonymous No.6248780]

>>6248776
You're a genius anon. Make a solution to a problem caused by themselves. Better pitch this to a VC asap.

[Anonymous No.6248781]

i am losing my mind

[Anonymous No.6248783]

>>6248769
>The image database used to train the machine learning AI is from copyrighted images.
>That's the bank robbing part
>a bunch of twitter screenshots
And this is not an argument because fair use and other laws exist.
The AI isn't taking the image as assets to use in generated works.
The AI isn't distributing copyrighted works as its own.
You're accusing AI as being a thief for looking at images that are freely available on the internet.
Why aren't you holding yourself accountable for saving images on the internet without the original creator's permission?
Why aren't you suing anyone who drew any piece of fanart?

You don't know shit and are crying wolf.
Just shut the fuck up, retard.

[Anonymous No.6248784]

>>6248776
That’s literally how the current AI models were built. They’re called GANs (generative adversarial networks). The AI spits out an image and then another AI gives it a pass/fail mark and the AI learns over time to not generate images that looks like failures.

[Anonymous No.6248786]

>>6248783
>The AI isn't taking the image as assets to use in generated works.
It's still part of the "chain of title" which is a legal term that traces all property ownership for any project or development process.

[Anonymous No.6248791]

>>6248781
Fellow proompters… you don’t think the AI is going to automate… proompting… do you…?

[Anonymous No.6248794]

>>6248786
That's always depended on the % of something a project or work used.
If someone uses or references 5% of an image to create a new piece, they don't have to declare anything.
Then it depends on how unique the work is and all that.

Even then, that term is only required for people or companies applying for actual copyright for the first time to actually prove that the work they're claiming the distribution rights to, is original.
You really don't know shit and are throwing buzzwords around.
holy shit

[Anonymous No.6248796]

>>6248794
and fair use only applies so long as it does not displace the original market.
if you feed an algorithm 50 gazillion copyrighted pngs overnight and it displaces the livelihoods of 10 million artists, do you think that is qualifies as fair use?

[Anonymous No.6248799]

>>6248781
this is what happens when you give participating trophies to your kids. this is what happens when you tell your kids that everyone is the same, and that he's just as special as anyone else. it grows into this deluded fool

[Anonymous No.6248800]

>>6248791
its not possible, human made prompts have heart and soul, ai generated prompts will never take off! right promptbros???

[Anonymous No.6248801]

>>6248440
Thats the problem you faggot. any fucking shmuck can become a "real artist" and art losses all meaning and value after that. just like anything that normies get there hands on

[Anonymous No.6248802]

>>6248781
>I-I'm talented and creative. This is a craft, I promise!
Damn, no kidding. They really are all like this guy said >>6248716

[Anonymous No.6248804]

https://promptomania.com/
https://pythondig.com/r/simple-prompt-generator-for-midjourney-dalle-stable-and-disco-diffusion-and-etc

PROMPTBROS NOT LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6248805]

world's just over desu
technology has given retards too much power

[Anonymous No.6248806]

>>6248781
so much cope from the AI faggots lmao. when the result ends up looking exactly like you want to, that's when it's a proper tool.when it's just looking through bullshit until you find something that's "eh, close enough" then you might as well be looking for pictures that already exist online

[Anonymous No.6248807]

>>6248796
>displaces the livelihoods of 10 million artists
No it doesn't. Also, nobody is making money training the AI.

[Anonymous No.6248808]

>>6248807
lel
you realise that openAI, stable diffusion, midjourney are all making $$$$$$$$$$$$ bank off of this right? even SD being so called "open source" have millions of investment from amazon and they're lining up their ducks to get their shit in everything from tiktok to the adobe suite kek

[Anonymous No.6248812]

>>6248801
No. Any fag with a phone has a camera now, pretty much what professionals had 10 years ago. But not every fag with a phone is a professional photographer.

[Anonymous No.6248814]

>>6248812
everyone had sketchbooks and pencils or you can draw on your phone using your finger or a cheap stylus. I see a lot of people comparing to photography but it's not really that at all, although I do see AI displacing photographers just as much as illustrators and artists.

[Anonymous No.6248815]

>>6248796
>and fair use only applies so long as it does not displace the original market.
And wrong again.
There are other factors that need to be considered.
>if you feed an algorithm 50 gazillion copyrighted pngs overnight and it displaces the livelihoods of 10 million artists, do you think that is qualifies as fair use?
How fucking retarded are you?
You're going off on speculations and even then, there has to be plausible evidence for such a claim.
You'd have to prove that a majority of the art directly affects the FIXED INCOME of someone or a company, by DISTRIBUTING their COPYRIGHTED works.
You'd have to prove that the copyrighted works are being directly USED AS ASSETS in the generated works.
If the law were as retarded as you say you'd have to delete and sue every single artist that made any piece of artwork that has any similarity with another artwork that came first; which then "fair use" wouldn't be applicable to anything anymore.

The whole
>people are going to lose jobs
is another shitty argument
The market is evolving and the consumer is the only one who has any say in it.

You either get a job if you want money that badly or you just draw because you want to draw, not because you were going to become an e-celebrity with it.

[Anonymous No.6248816]

>>6248312
>Once it starts being able to make hentai and furry porn it's over
GOOD, i want to see the those fag artists killing themselves.

[Anonymous No.6248817]

>>6248808
Getting money to do something doesn't mean it is making money doing something. Are we going to say NGO's are a group that makes money helping people? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.6248820]

>>6248573
Well your not a real artist so naturally you wont understand

[Anonymous No.6248821]

>>6248817
stable diffusion is absolutely not an NGO lol, even openAI changed a few years ago
t. artist who watched every interview with emad out of morbid curiosity
https://futurism.com/ai-elon-musk-openai-profit

[Anonymous No.6248823]

>>6248821
>OpenAI
>the company that everyone in the AI space hates for not making their shit opensource to make a profit
lmao

[Anonymous No.6248825]

>>6248781
ok but i made pic related with an automatically generated prompt that i didnt even write myself :D, literally made just by clicking my mouse for 2-3 minutes, if i put in a bit more effort with another program i could touch it up to fix the garbled bits

sorry prompt engineers, this is real art.

[Anonymous No.6248828]

>>6248597
desu i feel like there is some sort of deep envy you have of artists. anyway its not about the money. if ai can be better at art. it can be better then everything. so..what purpose would you have if robots do everything better then you other than exist ?

[Anonymous No.6248830]

>>6248799
this is what happens if you shift the focus of a hobby into farming clout and chasing money

[Anonymous No.6248834]

>>6248823
stable AI is also for profit. they are not an NGO or non-profit organisation. they have plans to monetise their product in the long run and have already begun to do so through dream studio + partnership with adobe.
so they are making $$$$$ from the dataset
by the way, karla ortiz will be talking with craig mullins and the concept art association about the copyright issue later today. I think it's going to be zoom but she said they would post the vod online after.
in case anyone here wants to attend-
https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcucOGrqD8rHNKjmIYbK2JlS3s6YfXSKBcs

[Anonymous No.6248835]

>>6248616
Nah. at least with clothes you need to have money and some understanding of how machines work and manage a business. with this. the bar is too low and everyone can do it. meaning the art will become worthless and souless instead of saying "wow nice art" you will say "oh its another ai image"

[Anonymous No.6248839]

>>6248681
Lol I am gonna make Dog NFTs out of this and sell to doge/shiba fans

[Anonymous No.6248842]

>>6248828
>i feel like there is some sort of deep envy you have of artists
oh boy, you're pulling that card now.
Are you actually over 18?
>anyway its not about the money. if ai can be better at art. it can be better then everything. so..what purpose would you have if robots do everything better then you other than exist?
What does the existence of AI have anything to do with your ability to draw?
How does AI stop you from drawing?
You say
>no, it's not about anything
But here you are, trying to argue that AI shouldn't exist because it will take away jobs and money and it can do better works.

If you actually drew, you wouldn't be threatened by AI.

[Anonymous No.6248844]

>>6248776
fucking genius. use their shit against them

[Anonymous No.6248846]

>>6248804
>randomly generated prompts is the same as SD AI
haha the absolute state of copetards

[Anonymous No.6248848]

>>6248834
They are not making money training the model. They are making money renting out servers for people to prompt stuff. The model is free. Anyone can use it.

[Anonymous No.6248849]

>>6248846
>AI w-will never generate prompts!
LOLOLOL COPE PROOMPTER, YOUR MONOPOLY ON CREATIVITY IS ABOUT TO END

[Anonymous No.6248850]

>>6248781
i knew redditors were the lowest of the low. but i didnt know they could stoop even lower

[Anonymous No.6248851]

>>6248849
lol seethe and dilate. ywnbaa

[Anonymous No.6248853]

>>6248850
And those are the ones deciding your fate.
They're the consumers.

[Anonymous No.6248854]

>>6248848
are you fucking dumb? they are literally selling their tech out to third party applications, companies, organisations. they wanna get this shit in tiktok and instagram and everything. they've already partnered with adobe + the indian government lol. the algorithm is the thing that will be bringing in the money in the long run for them, not the servers. you are naive.
stop believing emad's lies

[Anonymous No.6248855]

>>6248853
these retards never bought a single piece of art in their life. or they bought some of that $15 crappy art at best because they're greedy fucks. no competent artist wanted these retards interacting with them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6248856]

>>6248812
You for real ? photography is diffrent then drawing something by hand with skill. sure photography still requiers skill to do well. but what this ai is is essentially telling someone else to do the art for you. whenever you want in a matter of seconds and it comes out "good". and it is available for everyone. dont you see the issue ?

[Anonymous No.6248858]

>>6248855
How would you even know?
seems like you're on a high dosage of copium

[Anonymous No.6248861]

>>6248854
You fucking dumbass. Holy fucking shit. The only thing you can sue them for is the training. That is what I'm emphasising. Their models. Their tech. Their bullshit. You can't sue them for that. The way they take the data, the images they used, the way it was train. That is the one where you can force them to stop. And that's only if you can force them to stop since they aren't getting money from that. Training a model is making a tool. Using the tech itself is fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.6248864]

>>6248842
Yeah i am over 18. but that card is effective isnt it ? thats why you hate it.
>What does the existence of AI have anything to do with your ability to draw?
not my ability to draw. but the point of becoming a good artist in the first place. why become a good artist when a robot can do it for you easily ? its just lazy and extremely low effort. and it cant be considerd an achivment
>no, it's not about anything
>But here you are, trying to argue that AI shouldn't exist because it will take away jobs and money and it can do better works
heh twisting my words eh ? for me its not about the money. i said
and i actually draw. just lack proper D R A W I N G tools that requier skill to use. dont go assuming things you dont know

[Anonymous No.6248866]

>>6248851

[Anonymous No.6248867]

>>6248780
how do I speak their language?

[Anonymous No.6248870]

>>6248572
>Name one time individual won a lawsuit against a company
Doesn't need to be a individual, all that needs to happen is Disney finding a single image of theirs and the tech bros would be sued into oblivion.

[Anonymous No.6248872]

>>6248853
yikes man.

[Anonymous No.6248873]

>>6248870
Good point. Or better then, someone who doesn't even have a concept of fair use in their jurisdiction. Like Ghibli

[Anonymous No.6248875]

>>6248867
By sounding as obnoxious as this asshat. >>6248567

[Anonymous No.6248880]

>>6248703
>Who cares babes. The whole point of art is transmitting human emotion and experience.

The whole point of art is producing a product people want to consume. If people today want to feel something from art, they could watch a movie, play a videogame, or listen to music.

[Anonymous No.6248881]

>>6248870
I've never used much of this AI stuff. How easy/hard would it be to generate something indistinguishable from the Disney style? Or are cartoons too wacky for the AI?

[Anonymous No.6248882]

>>6248864
>but that card is effective isnt it ? thats why you hate it.
I feel nothing. It's just the overdone attempt at trying to discredit and deflect any opinions or arguments you can't actually do anything against.
It's the favorite weapon of individuals with no arguments and low iq.
>but the point of becoming a good artist in the first place.
AI doesn't stop you from getting good
>why become a good artist when a robot can do it for you easily?
Why learn to wipe your own ass if your mom can do it for you, right?
What even is the reason you want to get good?
I can only assume it's to get attention since you say it's not for money, which explains why you're against AI and can only bring irrational, emotional arguments.
>its just lazy and extremely low effort and it cant be considerd an achivment
How does that even concern you?
>heh twisting my words eh ?
The fuck? It's all things you've shown through your posts.
>and i actually draw.
>just lack proper D R A W I N G tools that requier skill to use.
You don't have a pen and paper?
>dont go assuming things you dont know
That's what you've been doing this whole thread without even anything you can use to assume anything.

Why are you being this retarded?

[Anonymous No.6248884]

>>6248882
>Why learn to wipe your own ass if your mom can do it for you, right? What even is the reason you want to get good?
nta but a huge part of why humans have created art (before we even had language) was to communicate to other people. if everything is just endless noise, and nobody is going to be able to recognise the things you make, or understand how or why you made them, then that does indeed remove a large aspect of why we both create and consume art. it all starts to feel rather pointless.

[Anonymous No.6248892]

>>6248881
3d Disney is easy, 2d is almost impossible to get good looking.

[Anonymous No.6248893]

>>6248882
nah. i just used the card to spite you. it might be true that you envy artists. it might not since i dont know you. but it is a real weapon against jealous retards so dont go discrediting it.
>AI doesn't stop you from getting good
idk what to tell you man lets hope you read the next part.
>Why learn to wipe your own ass if your mom can do it for you, right?
What even is the reason you want to get good?
this has to be the most retarded shit iv read today. wiping your ass isnt the same as developing skill over a good portion of your life. the fags in this thread compare shit to art while having no logical connection as an example.
>I can only assume it's to get attention since you say it's not for money, which explains why you're against AI and can only bring irrational, emotional arguments.
ironic how you complain about using cards while you use the AIfags card. sure i draw because i like interpreting my ideas to others people while at the same time being proud of what i made. its only natural and human to be proude of your achivments. and here you are trating it like some narcassitic thing about ego. while it is the thing that makes us go forward as a species.
>How does that even concern you?
read everything and try to use your 5 brain cells to connect the dots. without bias plz
>You don't have a pen and paper?
i do. but legends state that you need more then pens and papers to make things better if you just build a car using some bolts and a wrench and try to fit the parts together you get an incomplete car.
>That's what you've been doing this whole thread without even anything you can use to assume anything. in my case the tools are not available where i live
no. thats what you are doing. assuming all artists are the same alphabet soup people or whatever.

TLDR: why are you being this retarded

[Anonymous No.6248895]

>>6248884
>was to communicate to other people
AI still isn't stopping you from doing that.
>if everything is just endless noise, and nobody is going to be able to recognise the things you make
Then i was right to say that it's for the attention.
You should draw for the sake of drawing and to express yourself, not to be "heard".
Artists like that are enamored with the romanticized idealization of the artists existence, their art is a tool and a means to get attention on themselves.
>then that does indeed remove a large aspect of why we both create and consume art.
The moment you see art as to be created for consumption, you already spell its death.
This is just part of the problem.
AI is just a symptom and the next step in such a mindset.
>it all starts to feel rather pointless.
Change your attitude.
Drawing was always pointless but people did it anyway, not because they were expecting to be heard or seen or get rewarded for it, but because they felt like expressing themselves in the way they did.

A drawing that is technically inferior to anything else, can be artistically superior to a flawless piece.

[Anonymous No.6248897]

>>6248881
>>How easy/hard would it be to generate something indistinguishable from the Disney style? Or are cartoons too wacky for the AI?

There is no easy or hard here. You didn't draw the stuff. The robot did.

[Anonymous No.6248898]

>>6248893
sry for the typos. mistakes are mad when you are in the heat of passion.
feel free to out yourself as trash by pointing irrelevant grammar mistakes to 1UP someone online btw