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-"":"::Prompting in peace edition-"§

old thread; >>6236102

/imagine in this thread, we discuss advanced prompting

there were only about 93% of actual prompts in the previous thread, the rest was just seething zoomerboomerposting. post your prompts

>> No.6238082

Some of my prompts:
>bnw
>drawing by painted by
>karla
>legumes
>rossini
>bellball
>anime face portrait study
>watercolors

>> No.6238085
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>>6238081

>> No.6238086

does it have danbooru yet

taimanin if they real, painted by james gurney

>> No.6238090
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6238090

My promt was- reported sage mods eat shit and suck dicks kys troon glow niggers le op is raped by artschool teacher everyday.

>> No.6238091

>>6238082
Also, please credit me if you also make use of these prompts. Thank you!

>> No.6238093

>>6238090
rude.

>> No.6238095

>>6238085
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Bravo.
Bless you.

>> No.6238099

Is it better to practice by doing a lot of quick prompts or spend time polishing a single study prompt?

>> No.6238100

>>6238085
>>6238095
This episode is not available in my country. Can you proompt me a quick rundown?

>> No.6238103

>>6238099
Always print out your prompts so you can look at them again in a few days to see how far you've come.

>> No.6238113
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>/pypg/:'.:'
> no one is actually posting their prompts
I miss´the onld/ic/ when people just genuinely shared their prompts. Nowadays noone is gonna to show you their prompts. Zey fear ze prompt thieves and AI Cloud Elves.

>> No.6238243

use they creation against them, incorporate AI into your workflow, you have something techfags don't have, mechanical skills, you can take any AI generated imagen and fix it with brush work, mog the fuck out of these literally shit people they deserve to get fucked by their own invention and we artfags will still be superior

>> No.6238262

Is it just me or ai is actually killing the trannime market? Something as generic as trannime can be so easily replicated by ai I don't see why anyone would want to learn something as generic.
Trannime drawing will be a thing of the past pretty soon, all trannime will be instantly generated

>> No.6238439

>>6238243
>just be an ai babysitter bro
>just wait for the ai to shit it's pants and clean it up bro

>> No.6238517
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6238517

AI art is just another hype meme like NFTs last year.. r-right?

>> No.6238519

>>6238517
Yes.

>> No.6238526

>>6238517
>>6238519
I really don't see the comparison with NFTs

>> No.6238531

>>6238526
Just combine it all: Make an NFT collection that features furry ape tranny anime lolis generated by AI. Accelerate by making the worst thing imaginable right away.

>> No.6238534

>>6238517
>NFTs last year.
nft hype happened this year though. and it not over yet.

>> No.6238581
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>>6238081

guys i made a guide on how to use your art skills to mog bandwagoning proompters. SD doesnt know show about whats in your image, so draw it or photobash it and img2img. via this technique and photoshop can create anything

>> No.6238595

>>6238581
how can we get our hands on SD? do you need to apply like for dalle2?

>> No.6238614
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>>6238595
>>6238581

if u r a computer wizard then you can search github for stable diffusion. if u r brainlet u can search plebbit and there will be a guide. no sign up. can also run locally if u have a gpu with more than 6gb

>> No.6238615

>>6238614
what if i have exactly 6gb (1660 Ti)

>> No.6238617

>>6238615
also what prompt did u use for the original image?

>> No.6238620
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>>6238099

use same or similar prompt over and over with different variations until you learn how SD "thinks" about text and images. then use same or similar prompt along with drawing or photoshop and img2img like here>>6238581

gotta crawl b4 u can fly anon, dont think this is just "lol press buttan receive art"

>> No.6238629
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6238629

>Give the AI literally any prompt that isn't an emma watson portrait
>pic rel
You faggots hype up the most random shit.

>> No.6238631

>>6238629
>animetards are safe
Oh no no no

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6238632

>>6238631
don't worry, classicalfags are still fine too.

>> No.6238634

>>6238632
>Ocana is safe
Nice.

>> No.6238635

>>6238581
Honestly, what is the point even.

I never wanted to paint photorealistic people in traditional-ish brush expression, let alone do it by automatic photobashing.

I like the technique of painting shit myself, otherwise I would be a photobasher.

They are the kind of digital artist that will fucking love having text to image ai.

>> No.6238648

>>6238635
It's just another tool.

Retards are argueing about magic, when ML models are just high school math and maybe like basic entry level college math.

It's not magic, just cool tech.
Like being afraid a calculator can calculate faster than you.

Imagine being afraid of shit you learn in HS math.

>> No.6238649

>>6238620
/imagine ze handjobs
why cant ais into hands generation?

>> No.6238650

>>6238648
Its a tool you have absolutely no control over, its essentially useless.
photobashing still has use because you have control of what goes where.

>> No.6238652

>>6238650
right now I've found uses as idea generator, references, texture generator and like It can convert pixel art into HD pictures and as semi automatic blending tool.

For me it's more about learning the tool than calling it useless of being afraid.

>> No.6238656

>>6238652
>I'm getting ideas!
lmao

>> No.6238658

>>6238656
It has uses, like I can generate, like a medal with a mesoamerican or mayan icon, I can do like gym shorts with black african patterns.

can do cool shit.
better than google images.

>> No.6238661

>>6238650
ask me how i know you never prompted a single image in your life

>> No.6238679

>>6238649
>why cant ais into hands generation?
same reason old artists can't

>> No.6238682

>>6238679
>>6238649
It's because hands aren't real. Dreams also fail to depict hands. It's the simulation unraveling.

>> No.6238684

>>6238679
that's really deep.. no irony fr
>>6238682
>Dreams also fail to depict hands
put a Loomis book under your pilovv nexzt zime your sleepy time. simble ass

>> No.6238686

>>6238684
>he thinks I can afford a pillow now that AI has made me jobless
>he thinks I even have a bed
haha

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>>6238686
>3022
>sleeping on ze bed
Forest hobo Anons and /out/frens where are you at? We have an emergency.

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>>6238698

>> No.6238711

>>6238698
I am from /hgm/. >>6238686 should sleep in their garden and hate the ground elder. a starving artist needs nutritious veggies!

>> No.6238787

>>6238652
How do you use it to blend?

>> No.6238794

>>6238787
Alpha masking with an airbrush.

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>>6238787
Just pretend that you are not a beg for one whole month. Your subconscious self will take that order and you will become a pro. Tldr just proompt irl. Simble ass

>> No.6238798

>>6238620
mkay... but when's its free I refuse to pay for apps

>> No.6238876

>>6238100
the joke is that the writers of family guy are manatees bumping balls with prompts to write jokes

>> No.6238879

how long is your spellbook getting, /pypg/?

I have about 2 pages of prompts from myself and other people
do you have one that yields pretty consistently good results, that I could add?
not too interested in porn or portraits of pretty girls

>> No.6238887
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>>6238879
Not long. I don't stick to prompts long and prefer to just explore. I want to see new things!

>> No.6238889
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>>6238887
some favs from yesterday.

>> No.6238893

>>6238879
Oh, I will add that I do keep using things like octane renderer and 3d model if I want forms.

>> No.6238894

>>6238889
Those are excellent, I find it hard to believe they're AI. What terms are you using to get ... well I'm not sure a word for the quality. Very pleasant, though I wonder if it's shenanigans and is actually someone's art.

>> No.6238898

>>6238893
This gives further evidence to my hypothesis that people with art backgrounds and skills will outperform those without, still. What's the workflow look like for that, rendering something and then using img2img on it?
Are you worried what your artist friends might think if they find out you've been experimenting?

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>>6238894
water color, simplification, heavy lines, linen, impasto (and octane renderer)
It's not all good. Still getting plenty of duds. but they are funny duds so I don't mind.

>> No.6238907

>>6238794
Shit I thought he was talking about taking a crude brushwork and making it look smooth.

>> No.6238909
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Prompt: The great rat king, king of the rats, wears armor and sits upon his throne of garbage at midnight, smokey sky, Illustrated. Notebook. Watercolor. Dark, extreme detail, high resolution

>> No.6238916

>>6238894
>I find it hard to believe they're AI
It's pretty blatant if you have eyes and a background in art.

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>>6238898
I haven't got img2img yet, just using Grisk's stable diffusion program. I started out these with just the heavy lines, simplification, then gradually added forms and texture to the prompt, renderers, materials(like ferrofluid for the purple one).

You sniffed out my art background(decade+), I wonder how things will be as prompt search engines come up, style bibles and so on... obscuring things a bit perhaps.

>> No.6238921

>>6238916
Oh don't be disingenuous. Daily reminder that multiple times anon showed off actual art and /ic/ raged about how soulless and obviously AI it is.

>> No.6238924

>>6238921
Turns out they didn't have a background in art.

>> No.6238927

>>6238918
If you're using text2img, then you can also use img2img though I don't know the Grisk thing. But in fact they are the same thing in a sense. The SD loop is: it produces a picture, then iterates on that picture.
In text2img, the first image is just noise. In img2img, you start instead with a picture already in place. But both are the same thing, essentially.

>prompt search engines
I have seen this, but I don't think it's great https://promptomania.com/stable-diffusion-prompt-builder/

>> No.6238929

>>6238927
Grisk on itch.io made a GUI/standalone execute of the Stable diffusion source. I will look into img2img later(assume it will be added to Grisk's build).

>> No.6238930

>>>/g/

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>>6238924
don't wanna dox, so here's an example of my background.

>> No.6238951

>>6238924
you know what, I misread that as implying I(the box man/sargent poster) didn't have a background in art... I gotta get a background in reading comprehension...

>> No.6238963

>>6238081
now we got ai "art" posting threads
cool
nice to see the shitters who dont draw have already won in destroying whats left of /ic/

now excuse me im gonna go draw
you know, the thing you ai shitters cant do and are jealous off
pathetic ants

>> No.6238972

>>6238909
this one isnt as impressive when you consider its basically literally the sample image.

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>>6238963

>> No.6239074

>>6238963
The biggest irony on /ic/ is that these shitters who don't draw are creating content.

>> No.6239077

>>6238972
sample? it wasn't a image to image generation.

>> No.6239079

>>6239074
That's a point... Where the ic content at? just one off drawings?

>> No.6239097

>>6239074
The main criticism of AI art is that it can create infinite content through little to completely automated efforttt, just like the infinite AI bait threads that pop up daily. There's no way to know if any of these posters aren't GPT bots like the Seychelles one since their art isn't even human made

>> No.6239100

>>6239074
(((creating content)))

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>>6239097
if that is the case then we need to treat actual AGI as sentient

>> No.6239108

>>6239105
AGI isn't real as of now, but the fact that even GPT can completely impersonate an anonymous poster to the point of superficially emulating AGI already has deep implications

>> No.6239110

>>6239097
bots can't say things out of their dictionaries, ask them to make up a word that means for exapmple... "I harass artists on /ic/ because I can't draw and am jealous, posting AI threads is my cope"
They won't be able to reply with "jealoretardcopepsychosis"

>> No.6239123

>>6239110
They can actually, I've seen GPT-3 being create mashup of words as a pun or irony on demand though I don't know which prompt made it the chance precise

>> No.6239125

>>6239110
personally I have to disagree.
Can you imagine that there is a way of explaining "jealoretardcopepsychosis" to someone unfamiliar with 4chan, or internet, or even English?
You don't have to come up with the path, but can you imagine that one exists? If so, then there is no reason to imagine that it couldn't be codified by some neural net. In fact it may be easier for a NN to come up with such things than a person. It might lead the way in trends, or also be schizo gibberish (until it fine tunes)

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>>6239110
HOLY SHIT everyone beware this AI it's fucking dangerous

>> No.6239127

>>6239123
I did try a gpt3 demo that could make up words, but it used the same made up words for all kinds of prompts. likely from a database of made up words.

>> No.6239129

>>6239126
I'll just assume all my haters are AI from now on. my self esteem is gonna go through the roof!

>> No.6239146

>>6239129
Kek I have a better idea let's just say every "prompt engineer" is AI already

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>>6239126
>>6239129
>Doesn't realize what is being described are the ones with the crab mentality that has been plaguing the board for nearly a decade
kek

>> No.6239150

>>6239146
haha, this might be the way forward.

>> No.6239152

>>6239077
If you look at the initial images the AI uses to iterate off of, one of them is a humanoid rat that looks essentially like that

>> No.6239156

>>6239147
>realizes that but when real humans crab you, there is more sting to it even if you assume they are beg.

>> No.6239171

>>6239152
There was no initial images used though like with img2img. It was generated solely from the prompt.

>> No.6239177
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I'd like to run something past you guys that got shot down in /g/.

First, a brief rundown on how this works and why it's not "going back in the box." Imagine an infinitely replicateable brain, model.ckpt, that can be downloaded in under an hour. It's been trained on a huge dataset, and now even if all the source material disappeared from existence, it doesn't matter for the little brain.
You just plug it into some surprisingly basic math, and you have this image oracle. Leaving out plenty of details of course.

Anyhow, my point is, that this little brain has been trained very clumsily. Not just in the major issue of consent or whatever you want to call it (though it's very likely it's covered by EULA garbage, and the whole "read these 40 pages and click OK" thing has been a festering problem) but also in extremely poor tagging and design. The dataset wasn't meant for this project, after all, it's just stuff humans did.
So my dumb idea, was this alternate little brain, model2.ckpt, which is entirely opt-in and with some kind of compensation structure for those contributing to it. Then ideally, artistics, photographers, etc would give the finger to Dalle2/Midjourney/SD/whoever else who yoinked their shit behind obscure license agreements, and opt-in to providing content for this new little brain that would grow, and be more organized by design.

Further finger-giving in the form of class action wrecking them, and opting out of their platforms and support for anyone who utilizes them.
I'm not aware of compensation structures, but I'm imagining some kind of passive income weighted on contributions and how well the platform is doing (maybe non-profit structure) but I don't know, that's beyond my imagination.

I have no skin in the game, I can barely keep my life together, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'm just wondering if you personally like/dislike or have thoughts on if it'd be good or not. Have a cezanne I did like 15 years ago

>> No.6239184

>>6239177
It was shot down for two different reasons, the more reasonable: The dataset would have to be huge, and even compensating everyone $1 would get in the millions. Again finance isn't my thing so I don't have much to say about this, other than, maybe that's an incomplete picture.
The second was just something like "lol get fucked"

>> No.6239190

>>6239068
>that mouse is stealing the cherries again and what I thought was an oven mit on my hip is a fucking tongue

>> No.6239276

>>6238262
The one thing that midjourny and stable diffusion cannot do is anime the fuck are you on about.

>> No.6239324

>>6239126
Can someone explain to me picrel? Did you just feed ai with the first sentence and ia finished the poem? Wtf is going on

>> No.6239327

>>6239324
Look up Markov chain. The ai is not as clever as it appears. (But maybe neither are we...)

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>>6239327

>> No.6239362

>>6238534
>and it not over yet.
kek

>> No.6239917

>>6238517
Nobody can tell you what will happen with this stuff in the future. The people who say AI art will have no impact at all are probably wrong, and thr people who say AI art will make human made art irrelevant are also probably wrong.
It’s possible the early flaws in the tech will always (or, “always”) hold it back somewhat, as let’s face it - if feeding it millions of images wasn’t enough to teach it how to make bodies that don’t look maimed and mutilated, feeding it a million more probably won’t make that much a difference. So I don’t necessarily buy the “exponential improvement” meme. That said, the tech is out and here to stay, and how it affects the job market going forward is anyone’s guess. It’s just too new to say definitely.

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This image frightens me, not because of the context but because of the implications it sets forth. Before AI this image didn't exist until someone prompted it through an algorithm and made an impression about two iconic figures of the 19th century. You get the idea across successfully but the execution still contains flaws although its purpose was fulfilled since we are able to recognize the two and most importantly their characteristics. The part that is most frightening about this image is how we'll soon be able to suggest history and with that completely change it to what an AI generates.

>> No.6240773

>>6240769
>19th century
Anon...

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>>6240769
We going to see some really ugly shit throwing with AI deep fakes and false information. It was bad enough 2021 now just imagine it with actual AI disinfo.
This comming general election is going to get really ugly and I personally am seriously considering just unplugging from the web entirely and going on a sailing trip or hike the AT. /pol/ is already making all sorts of lulzy material in just this week. Its already bad enough with the ever constricting grip corpos have on the internet.

I'm actually betting a media outlet might even go under not because of any political BS but just simply the fact they will be unable to fact check everything in this soon to be tornado of AI images and drowened out

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PLEASE LEAVE GREG ALONE

>> No.6240827

>>6240803
most prolific artist in human history

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>>6240827

>> No.6240838

you guys are forgetting to use not wacky as shit as prompt

>> No.6240881

Greg Rutkowski, please bless the prompts I am about to perform.
In your name, trending in my heart, amen.

>> No.6241009

>>6239917
>as let’s face it - if feeding it millions of images wasn’t enough to teach it how to make bodies that don’t look maimed and mutilated, feeding it a million more probably won’t make that much a difference
If we ever reached a point of diminishing returns I might buy this, but what makes modern ML models so impressive today is that they just keep getting better the bigger they are and the more data they eat. Stable Diffusion is far from the best out there; the popularity merely came from the fact that it's so tiny it can run on an average gaming PC. I'd wait until there's any sign of hitting a wall before making a call like that, and otherwise assume that our only limitation is going to be the raw power and bandwidth needed.

>> No.6241012

>>6238517
This stuff pretty much is the early stages of a disruptive technology. It will get better, faster and with many more uses as the years go by.
Better to find a way to adapt now rather than get left behind.

>> No.6241016

>>6241009
the "eating the data" part is the bit that I think is going to be hotly contested very soon... after all, it's kind of like google images on steroids, it can remix and mash up the results, yet google can't just claim that they own all the images that appear on their results. If it's not regulated, then it will be impossible for creatives to ever make a living off of art, since it just gets added to a giant katamari ball of intellectual property. There is no value as a commodity.

>> No.6241022

>>6240881
>I will thank an artist by destroying their job
I expected nothing more from a techie kek

>> No.6241107

>>6238517
My company let its concept artists go. No reason was given but I can fill in the blanks.

>> No.6241112

>>6241012
If by disruptive you mean literally going to kill the human race, then yes.

>> No.6241114

>>6241009
The
>It can't do hands
Line is pure cope unfortunately, these things are picking so much steam, that in 2 years tops they'll be genuinely competitive material.
And everybody outside of some artists is loving it, unlike nfts which had a stink very early on.

>> No.6241115

>>6241112
wtf I love AI now

>> No.6241117

>>6238091
Nope, using these prompts and taking all credit. Thank you for being a sucker anon!

>>6238517
Yeah Probably, but like that tech, this will probably stick around in some form or another, at the very least it'll be integrated into the concept art pipeline. Don't let it get you down. If you enjoy drawing/art, at the very least it's a great hobby.

>>6238526
You really don't see the comparison between the people shilling NFTs and Crypto so feverishly and the guys sucking AI arts cock right now? NFT/Crypto bros were so desperate to tell us it was the future and we'd all be using Crypto as out future currency and blah blah blah... Meanwhile here are AI bros telling us that AI Art will be the only art of the future and we'll all be out of jobs and it's the future and blah blah blah.

Same sort of culture. They could be right this time, but I just don't think that's the case, but it can be hard not to believe them when they're this loud and continuous with their harping.

>> No.6241118

>>6241012
The interesting thing is that now it's artists and writers, but music and 3d modeling are next, there won't be an art job not cornered by AI, in a decade.
This isn't the end of art, but you can see it from here.

>> No.6241120

>>6241117
>You really don't see the comparison between the people shilling NFTs and Crypto so feverishly and the guys sucking AI arts cock right now? NFT/Crypto bros were so desperate to tell us it was the future and we'd all be using Crypto as out future currency and blah blah blah... Meanwhile here are AI bros telling us that AI Art will be the only art of the future and we'll all be out of jobs and it's the future and blah blah blah.
Both involve some tech gimmick, but they are very different, at least as far as public perception goes.
You couldnt name nfts without the lefty art world running you over on Twitter, this one has all of them excited, too.
There won't be any shaming or public push back on this.

>> No.6241125

>>6238081
>>6238081
Prompter should be used as an insult.

>> No.6241126

>>6241120
>There won't be any shaming or public push back on this.
Kind of strongly disagree with this. You don't think the general public will feel any discomfort with the idea that computers are making our art? There's plenty of push back within the artworld, even from those who seem to see the usefulness of the application of it, but I think there's going to be some strong push back from outside of that bubble from the general public.

Though I could be wrong, I just think we see creativity and culture as something inherently human, and letting computers dictate that, and create it, in some form seems kinda gross to me, outside of my arty-fartsy bias.

>> No.6241128

>>6241118
it is the end of art as we know it if the tech isn't regulated by copyright. Since intellectual property is the only thing that allows artists to make money (since it allows us to commodify art) unless they are in the fine art business I suppose...
so art will become a world wide charity effort where everything gets sucked into a giant algorithm that can shit out creative commons iterations, and nobody's work will have value anymore. The only real winners are stable AI and openAI who can sell off their data sets and tech to app developers, third party organisations and governments

>> No.6241130

i am an aspiring prompteuse (female prompt artist cos i'm a girl), and recently i've started to get my first commissions

>> No.6241132

>>6241126
The most frightening part is that it is the result of data-mining, I get that most people are like "Whoa, cool pretty pictures! Emma Watson booba! Free art forever!!" but I think the implications of how our digital footprint is able to be manipulated is terrifying... It will go beyond art surely. They can create digital tulpas using your internet DNA left around the place.

>> No.6241135

>>6241132
>"Whoa, cool pretty pictures! Emma Watson booba! Free art forever!!"
And if Emma Watson decides to voice concern or takes legal action, I think that'll also change the tide of public perception.

All this said though, I don't think AI art will make that big of a splash, I think it'll fizzle out pretty soon over than some solid applications in the art industries' pipeline, and some uses in software and such outside of just plain ol' art.

>> No.6241139
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>>6241118
>but music and 3d modeling are next
https://youtu.be/5J5bDQHQR1g?t=176
Keep in mind, this video was made in 2016 so who knows how good those music composing AIs are right now.

>> No.6241143

>>6241128
The best thing about AI is getting to see civilization unravel. Call me hateful, but watching the people who used to bully experience their realities slowly disintegrate into chaos and fear is fucking boner-inducing. Their medically castrated sons will be hanging from rafters because they spent $100k to learn skills a robot can now do in 20 seconds.

>> No.6241146

>>6241135
Don't be stupid. Img2img is already good enough that non-artists can make pro-level comics. This is the WORST it will ever be. It's only getting better.

>> No.6241147

>>6241126
>You don't think the general public will feel any discomfort with the idea that computers are making our art?
Not what I'm seeing from places like reddit twitter and other more normies filled spaces.
People seem excited that they can get "Naruto drawn by Klimt" with the press of a button and for free.
And i think there's a stronger sense of narcissism nowadays, thanks to social media, a lot of people aren't interested in other people art, if they can just get to do what's in their head, as mediocre as it may be.

>> No.6241148

>>6241143
>watching the people who used to bully
Are you talking about artists? Anon you have to be a particular kind of weak to be bullied by fucking artists. Half the work I see coming from them is talking about their depression, or THEIR experiences being bullied, or their experiences doing such harsh things such as; "interacting with people". Artists as a group are fucking weak willed, low confidence, bean-sprout losers... and you're bullied BY THEM!?

>> No.6241149

>>6241143
I mean I dunno, I think artists tend to be outcasts who are/were at the bottom of the social food-chain... Normies will be fine. They have kids and normal hobbies and don't ascribe such a strong sense of identity to their work. The real losers are weirdos who threw away their life pursuing the arts and humanities and now have their identity and aspirations crushed

>> No.6241151

>>6241132
>It will go beyond art surely. They can create digital tulpas using your internet DNA left around the place.
Bots already riddle the internet, some time ago there was that dude that let loose a bot in /pol/ as an experiment, and it wasn't even that easy to spot.
Granted 4chan already has so much user generated shit posting, that makes it easier for bots to blend in, but with stuff like this image generator and text generators, the level of fake news, astroturfing and general garbage that's about to inundate every social space on the web, is frightening.
I think message boards will be rendered nearly unusable.

>> No.6241152

>>6241146
>Img2img is already good enough that non-artists can make pro-level comics
I've seen AI comics. They were dogshit. By the way, the best applications of img2img I've seen were artists using their sketches in it. Guess Artists will be the ones making best use of it.
>This is the WORST it will ever be. It's only getting better.
And that's the thing Anon, I don't think it's going to get better for a long time. Software and tech often hit snags after progressing very quickly. Is translation software so great that it can replace translators? No.
I think AI art has hit that snag, and things like img2img and other gimmicks using the same tech will sprout up to look like development.

>> No.6241153

>>6241139
AI works through pattern recognition, what's more pattern based than music? Musicians will have it worse than us.

>> No.6241155

>>6241153
apparently the stable AI guy is releasing a music algorithm next month.

>> No.6241156

>>6241155
I can see instrumental music being reproduced fairly well.
Songs are probably a ways off yet.

>> No.6241157

>>6241153
Not to mention the samples made by musicians themselves to replace live instrumentation. AI music will definitely be more accurate more quickly than AI art when they get to it (the Dall-e2 guys made one, but have stopped to focus on the art AI for now).
I think once AI hits music, that's when shit hits the fan regarding the conversations around AI, as visual art is sorta niche in it's passion despite being appreciated for the aesthetic it provides our daily lives, while music is something most appreciate more passionately on a personal level (we all have favourite songs or bands, but I don't think nearly as many people have favourite artists or paintings etc.)

>> No.6241159

>>6241147
I wouldn't really say reddit or twitter are the general public, but all I've seen have been fairly negative reactions. Guess it's the internet circles we interact with. Granted I've really only seen artists reactions and not people outside of that.

>> No.6241160

>>6241157
as well, music has a lot more protections than visual art does. sony and UMG and super sue happy, japan has JASRAC, etc. I don't see them rolling over immediately like the concept art industry is because the art scene is so poor and fractured already. (consider all the lawsuits over sampling and the like)

>> No.6241162

>29 images
Disappointed, AI art died before it even started.

>> No.6241163

>>6241162
It takes a lot of effort to get the perfect proompt anon.

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>>6241159
reddit loves AI... imagine infinite VR MMORPG quests generated forever......... epic win.

>> No.6241168

>>6241163
If you're great at prompting, never do it for free.

>> No.6241171

>>6241165
This planet is straight up retarded.

>> No.6241172

>>6241165
Haha, someone really said this earlier:
>I really don't see the comparison with NFTs
Just look at this shit. These are NFT bros moving onto the new hot thing. Funnily enough this kind of talk convinces me more and more that it's all just some fad.

>> No.6241173

>>6241165
>AI i want a mish mash of things I already know.
No wonder every movie now relies on hollow cameos and call backs, fucking nerds and their obsession for pop culture.
It's basically a future where every piece of art is just Ready Player One.
No challenging ideas, nothing new or unexpected, nothing that comes from deep within.

>> No.6241174

>>6241155
He will draw the ire for black rappers who will shoot a tennis ball sized hole into his head in Minecraft.

>> No.6241175

>>6241174
Rap already uses sampled music that might as well be AI made.

>> No.6241176

>>6241174
Actually given the absolute shit some rappers have as their backing track, I expect rappers will greet AI music with open arms.

>> No.6241179

>>6241176
https://kotaku.com/fn-meka-ai-rapper-fortnite-gaming-clix-tiktok-capitol-1849449619
This shit happened this week lol

>> No.6241180

>>6241179
Well of course they're going to chimp out when THEY'RE the ones being removed by having AI write the lyrics. But using racism was smart. Why didn't artists say that AI art was anti-trans or something? We fucked up.

>> No.6241183
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I'm the anon that was asked about prompting fight scenes and more complex scenes in general.
After experimenting for a bit, I don't really have anything new to add - the AI really struggles on its own, and the process is very tedious without masking. Have a hands-on approach, edit things on your own, feed them back, use img2img. If you have sketches, use them, just not black and white, you'll have to add some basic colors and shading.

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>>6241152
>I've seen AI comics. They were dogshit. By the way, the best applications of img2img I've seen were artists using their sketches in it. Guess Artists will be the ones making best use of it.
I think so too. At least for the current level of AI. I don't know what's it going to be like in the future, but the current level of AI is still, possibly useful tool for artists, a toy for everyone else.
I've been spending time in AI generation threads on /b/ and the majority of "good" content I see posted is still the stuff I posted myself. There are a few others who I suspect are artists themselves. And even the best output still has flaws if you look closely.
If you're someone who can bend the AI to your will and consistently make it create something close to your intention that still looks good you probably possess skills and knowledge the average normie doesn't.
It's kind of like photography. Anyone can point a camera and snap a photo but but there's still a massive difference between your average selfie and a portrait taken by a professional photographer.
That's the present day, anyway. The future? I don't know and won't pretend to have a crystal ball.
This picrelated isn't something I'd post as finished artwork but I could use it as a reference to make something in my own style.

>> No.6241203

>>6238963
>pathetic ants
You don't even draw, and have made thus board shit all on your own.

>> No.6241211

>>6241180
It doesn't matter whatever they say. This shit is open source. It's installed on thousands of computers.
So what if there's a moral panic? What can they do, outlaw math?
A small part of me wants computers banned entirely and AI is only part of the reason why, but I know that's not going to happen.

>> No.6241408

>>6241200
>I could use it as a reference to make something in my own style.
Wouldn't it be better to just look at a finished piece on art station? Your pic looks like one of those 3d renders on Radeon cards from the 00's.

>> No.6241415

>>6241408
>Wouldn't it be better to just look at a finished piece on art station?
Maybe. But I don't give a FUCK about what cunts are doing on art station!

>> No.6241418

ok people, you convinced me, i give up
i've spent 20 years drawing things, but now i can clearly see we as artists are done

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>>6241165
>AI is improving
>Normalniggers are completely loving it and imagining how the AI will feed the endless consumer products in a jiffy
A C C E L E R A T E

>> No.6241435

>>6241418
Good choice my dude.
Get here: promptbase.com
And start CREATING!

>> No.6241477

>>6241429
>>6241435
My fellow proompters, I have a question. How do you guys keep your proompt station clean? I keep cumming all over the keyboard as I proompt, and my little brother gets angry when he uses the computer after me. My proompts are just so beautiful, I can't contain myself... The images that come from them are kinda dogshit, but my proompts, they are my art!

>> No.6241480

>>6241477
cum in your little brother instead, make him stare at your proompts when you do it too

>> No.6241484

>>6241477
<He doesn't use speech to txt so he can prompt while Zweihänding it.
ngmi

>> No.6241486

>>6241418
Sure you did.

>> No.6241494

>>6241486
i did tho, this september i'm starting my mechE program, college life here i go

>> No.6241503

>>6241494
>mechE
What was your final drawing?

>> No.6241522

>>6241503
the line

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>>6241477
>prOOmpt
And this is why AI will replace your unoriginal ass.

>> No.6241573

>>6241114
>And everybody outside of some artists is loving it
I don't know about that. Anecdote here, but literally every normie I've brought it up to (both online and in person) have immediately said stuff like "Well, if it's a computer doing it, it isn't real art" or some variation. I've even shown them some examples - not cherrpicked, "lulz this is terrible" examples, if anything I cherrypicked the best results - and normies said that it doesn't matter how good it looks, if a person isn't making it, it's not art.
Obviously, there will come a time when people don't know what's made by a human and what's made by AI (and, realistically i think in some respects we can already say we're there now), but my point is outside of the hyper-obsessed techbros there's a lot of normies who aren't necessarily on board.

>> No.6241579

>>6241522
did you use a ruler? or can you construct it freehand? 20 years drawing, I imagine it was a nice line.

>> No.6241592

>>6241573
Anecdote here, but literally every normie i've brought it up to (both online and irl) have immediately not cared if it was made by AI or not as long as looked good.
I've even shown them some examples-- not cherry picked; they shrugged and didn't care.
Obviously, there will come a time where AI will surpass human and normies will still not care as long as it's makes consuming convenient for them.

>> No.6241594

>>6241118
>>6241139
I actually think music is relatively "safe" in regards to this. I mean, I'm just a humble bedroom guitarist who noodles around on the guitar as a hobby, but the fun part of music is actually playing it yourself. That's the fun part for the audience too, is seeing someone play an instrument. I have an Uncle that does wedding gigs with his band, and logically speaking if any technology should have replaced him by now it'd be the CD player - but no, people want to see a live band play the music.
Maybe record labels will reach a point where AI writes all the music who knows, but a computer quite literally can't replace a musician playing an instrument to an audience. I mean, my uncle's band just does a bunch of yacht rock covers mostly so again playing an instrument is fun regardless if you wrote the music or not.
So to anybody quitting drawing over AI, i guess I'll just recommend to learn an instrument lol.

>> No.6241601

>>6241594
the live performance aspect is probably safe (similar to traditional paintings) since there's something tangible outside the digital space, but who knows for game/movie/etc. composition and stuff like that

>> No.6241624

>>6241579
it's a figure of speech

>> No.6241625

>>6241594
i think composers are fucked, bands doing live are ok

>> No.6241637

>>6241594
Live music will be fine, same with traditional art, but scores for shows and movies and videogames, and advertisements; these will be be gone. There will likely be few licensed songs as well - why license a song when you can just proompt one into existence?

>> No.6241705

I'm an artist. A prompt artist.

>> No.6241733

>>6241594
>but the fun part of music is actually playing it yourself.
This is literally true for any artform.
Even for drawing the fun part is drawing yourself, not typing out a fucking prompt.
Commercially though, it's a different ball game, because your enjoyment doesn't factor in your marketability, unless you're selling your persona online (youtuber artist etc).

The joy of seeing someone excel at their craft is also true for drawing, though maybe not as fun as seeing someone play an instrument, the idea of seeing someone take a white canvas and turn it into a beautiful drawing, is satisfying for most people.
It's why time lapse art videos are liked so much.

But it doesn't matter it'll just remain as a niche artisanal space, even more so than it is now.

>> No.6241740

>>6241705
can you generate a picture of my deep dark fantasy?

>> No.6241741

>>6241637
I mean people still enjoy watching woodcarving videos on youtube, and it's fun to see the guy take a log and turn it into a swan of whatever, and sometimes if you've got some cash, you may even decide to commission a carpenter to make you a really nice custom table; but 99% of the time, if you need a desk you go to Ikea and get one made in an assembly line.

It'll be the same for visual arts, music, etc.

>> No.6241745

>>6241740
I forgot to mention: In the style of Greg Rutkowski.

>> No.6241746

YWNBAA

>> No.6241874

>>6241745
>In the style of Greg Rutkowski.
Greg Rutkowsking is 300 bucks.

>> No.6241875

>>6241746
seethe and sharpen your pencil boomer, trending on artstation

>> No.6241898

>>6241874
cum on man, you are busting my balls

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>>6241594
FN Meka is an AI powered rapper that appeared this month and already made a lot of rappers seethe. It's basically an AI making random strings of songs mixed with generaed beats as it says nigga in a rapper's voice. The dude behind it just needs to perform the avatar animation part and the video is ready. It got a contract with Record Labels but was cancelled in the last minutes for "robot racism" lmao. I wonder if we could replicate this effect in a large scale by selling African-themed AI art

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>>6241594
>a computer quite literally can't replace a musician playing an instrument to an audience

>> No.6243855

>>6241155
that stable ai guy is a legit fraud and his company is a joke

>> No.6243904

>>6242002
ugly

>> No.6244140

>>6243855
Prompt?

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6244181

https://kotaku.com/ai-art-dall-e-midjourney-stable-diffusion-copyright-1849388060
You heard it folks, machines can do art. Machines should copyright their art. We're no different from AI, so they deserve rights too. We must be inclusive and acceptive of the mechanical replacement of the whole human race like we were for lower-scale ethnical replacement a while ago. Get yourself AI children to reduce carbon emissions. Luddites will be jailed and this is the next step to a better future.

>> No.6244200

A lot of people are in for a rude awakening. The next GPT will be 1000x more powerful than the current model. Literally 100 trillion parameters. And the ones after *that* will hit 100 quadrillion. There's no theoretical ceiling to this tech. It will just keep getting better and better. How do artists survive? How does ANYONE survive when we have AIs that powerful?

>> No.6244205

>>6241012
Yeahj, that's what they said about crypto and NFTs too.

Anyway, /trad/s dont have anything to fear.

>> No.6244218

>>6244200
How it will get better when it is still drawing images from preexisting samples? It can't outmatch the top artist, at most it will compete with it. These AIs aren't AGI.

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>>6241165
>"AI I want to play half life using portal mechanics set in WWII scored by Hanz Zimmer but make it like cell animation.

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How much can I make as a prompt engineer? I know the market is still young.

>> No.6244269

>>6244258
The only people who use this as of now is those who specifically don't want to pay for art

>> No.6244270

>>6244258
hmmm, probably 100

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/scitechdaily.com/highly-efficient-new-neuromorphic-chip-for-ai-on-the-edge/amp/
>Engineers ran various AI tasks on the chip. It achieved 99% accuracy on a handwritten digit recognition task; 85.7% on an image classification task; and 84.7% on a Google speech command recognition task. In addition, the chip also achieved a 70% reduction in image-reconstruction error on an image-recovery task. These results are comparable to existing digital chips that perform computation under the same bit-precision, but with drastic savings in energy.
>One key contribution of the paper, the researchers point out, is that all the results featured are obtained directly on the hardware. In many previous works of compute-in-memory chips, AI benchmark results were often obtained partially by software simulation.
>Next steps include improving architectures and circuits and scaling the design to more advanced technology nodes. Engineers also plan to tackle other applications, such as spiking neural networks.
In a few years everyone will be running NeuRRAM chips with AGI in their Smartshoes wtf bros is humanity done for do I just become nihilist

>> No.6244346

>>6244200
>How does ANYONE survive when we have AIs that powerful?
by keeping in check the parasites that lead to requiring so much work to simply exist in the first place. First and foremost landlords. And that doesn't require going full Marx either, both "left" and "right" can see that they're massive parasites sucking away wealth without giving anything back.

These advancements should be celebrated as remarkable achievements, but instead it becomes a threat to survival, and it's not the achievements' fault, it's the shit heads who keep so many people so close to the line for the audacity of existing.

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>>6244346
I believe Luddite movements are going to be met with exceedingly violent repression from government and elites in the coming decade. Why waste time and effort dealing with humans complaining about the system when you can just kill them all and grow your own slaves workers (either AI or genetically engineered)

>> No.6244383

>>6244312
is it mere coincidence that all this shit is happening just as the economy is about to eat shit?

>> No.6244398

>>6244383
Your economy is getting shitter, not theirs for sure. These tech corporations are not impacted at all by nukes, resource scarcity or ethical concerns when they have world organizations by their side.
Everyone is in the race to pioneer global-scale 4th industrial revolution

>> No.6244426

why would Dall-e and Midjourney even allow Stablediffusion to exist as free in the long run.

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>>6244346
holy shit we have a runaway breadtube brain retard in the stands. tell me, does it hurt to be such a humongous faggot?

>> No.6244431

>>6244346
Yeah, literally the only reason artists hate AI making images is because artists are afraid to lose their source of income. Nobody wants to be homeless, nobody wants to starve, and I believe that if our society as a whole was structured in a more ethical way, artists would be celebrating this technology because they know they don't have to fear being homeless.
Actually, I think in a way artists would be more happy not having to do art for profit, but rather art for art's sake, but of course they have to do art for profit to survive.
At the end of the day, Stable Diffusion isn't "evil," but the small percentage of people that horde a disproportionate amount of wealth and power in society are certainly evil.

>> No.6244435

>>6244426
>Dall-E/OpenAI labs = Elon Musk and Silicon Valley
>Stable Diffusion = UN, UNESCO, McGovern, Stanford society and rich techjeet
Idk about midjourney, but these two entities seem like they avoid touch each other because there are great powers behind both

>> No.6244442

>>6244435
Amazon also dumped shit loads of money to StableAI and laion.

>> No.6244444

>>6244431
Even without the money factor it feels like creative rape.

>> No.6244447

>>6244444
Checked, if you get a powerful enough AI you could bruteforce through every possible black and white sketch combination in existence inside a 512x512 canvas

>> No.6244455

>>6244444
Quints of truth, and I actually don't disagree with you. The tech could have been implemented way more ethically (ie, only training it on open source images at first, allowing artists to opt in their work to the database and maybe even financially compensate them for doing so etc), but I've seen people use it in two ways:
A) First, there's people who just type a prompt in X artist's style, and then post it on twitter like "Look what I made!" Obviously, I don't like it, even if it isn't 'illegal' per se it's still lame and uncool as all hell, and I wish it was more stigmatized as the loser behavior it is (heck, nobody respects Sakimichan clones, why should we respect AI hacks?). But then,
B) There's artists who will type a prompt, and use the output for inspiration. They will then either paint over it or use it as a concept sketch for a completed work, in which the artist creates something new in their own style, with the 'before' versus the 'after' showing a real transformative aspect and creativity on part of the artist.
---
And again, I think artists would be more willing to embrace the tech on account of the B example, but the problem is they have to worry about big corporations being more like the A people and using the tech as a tool to bypass artists (and be uncreative and lazy while doing so).

>> No.6244459

>>6244444
This will be a "no it isn't" "yes it is" kind of conversation, but it really is a tool. I've been watching pretty much all the threads and elsewhere, and it's quite clear who has artistic backgrounds and other software expertise when creating stuff.
This will vastly empower actual artists who use it, it will increase traditional art value much like vinyl -- though this was also pushed a lot by DJing which has limited analogy in art -- and casual people will find some enjoyment in making things but defer to actual artists for anything halfway serious. The studios who fire artists and have their tech guy do the art will have many regrets in the longer term.
I was on the fence up until recently, but that's what I believe now. Not an artist btw.

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>>6244431
I do it as a hobby and for some occasional side income. Forming connections with clients is interesting and you feel rewarded by them for it, but also obviously for the money.
But, it's also true that this could be replaced simply with collobration with the person if the laborous task is lessened/removed
What I don't want is some autogenerator that spits out a perfect rendition of an idea like it was a master artist that understands everything. I want my own unique touch on it that a machine can't do, the human touch, be it even the human error.
Either way, I specialize in such niche that I don't feel particularly threatened (yet). If anything my niche is what holds my growth back the most, altho now it might be an advantage. It was not in my plans to draw porn till I'm 40 anyways.

>> No.6244475

>>6244459
>>6244455
It is rape. I think the only people I see calling it a tool are people who aren't visual artists themselves. Human art was made with human hands. We've gone from the lascaux cave paintings to whatever this predictive algorithm shit is. The output looks like art to me but I cannot recognise the language.
I like to draw and I like to paint. If the future of art is whatever this is I'd rather retreat somewhere far away.

>> No.6244477

>>6244455
I don't even get using the second type you described, it's automating the most important and expressive part of the processes

>> No.6244487

By now we have little to worry compared to the future: The moment they merge image AI with text AI, it will be able to read loomis and be fine tuned on its understood principles, along with all anime drawing manuals in Exhentai, then we're all irrecoverably fucked

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>>6244487

>> No.6244499

>>6244487
It really won't until it's a Artificial General Intelligence, at which point the art was created by the A.I. itself. What you would get is a commission from a sentient robot.

>> No.6244534

>>6244487
>it will be able to read loomis and be fine tuned on its understood principles
I feel like the moment AI can learn on that scale, we'll have bigger problems than just AI doing art.

>> No.6244543

>>6244534
maybe it'll take control of the nukes and wipe us all out, that would be nice

>> No.6244557

>>6244447
Got me curious. If you could dedicate every single quark in the universe to generating one unique 512x512 black and white canvas every nanosecond for the entire duration of the universe, then by today you would still be 0.0000000000000000...% of the way to getting every possible combination, and 0.0000000000000000...% of the way there by the end of the universe (there are 78,000+ more 0s after that)

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>>6244499
If you asked me about AGI a few weeks ago I would say it would come in a decade or two for sure. But now AGI is clearly the next goal for IT industry as we have all these multibillionaire techies openly aiming their code howitzers at us in a gold rush competition of who gets to completely replicate human creativity in a machine first, all the while partnering with rulers of the world to make ends meet so idk what will happen even in 5 years from now.
You can't make profits, you can only take them from someone's pockets in this world, and now they're going for a last push to turn us all into dependent consumers at once. We are truly living in the last free times

>> No.6244577

>>6244557
You underestimated the power of the pajeet 2010s computer sweatshop

>> No.6244580

>>6244574
I mean that's the thing, "democratizing" art is so retarded when you take one minute to think about it. Already artists are all poor as hell and your parents laugh at you if it's your dream, now it'll be an impossibility for kids at school in a year or two because nobody will be making any money from art but the techbros making this algorithm.

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>>6244580
Look at this entitled lil nigerian nigga gatekeeping art from the people. I bet he went to some elitist art school. Thank you Emad and the pajeet troupe for freeing art from his claws

>> No.6244602

>>6244580
democratizing in the same sense as when a country must be liberated

>> No.6244603

>>6244543
One can hope.

>> No.6244700

>>6244487
It's already merged with a text algorithm.
Turns out the text algorithm is a bit shit.
At least in the publically available open source one.
SD isn't really what I'm worried about. If you've been using it for a few days you would know by now how limited it is. It's more useful for actual artists as a source of inspiration than for non-artists to "replace" artists. Artists can make use of even garbage output if they see something promising in it while others will be wasting hours and hours trying to wrangle the dumb algorithm to produce something halfway presentable.
Dall-e 2 and other future AI's are the ones to worry about. Dall-e 2 is already on a whole another level.

>> No.6244711

>>6244700
Every day there's a nasty surprise like this. Speechless

>> No.6244728

>>6244711
Dall-e 2 is what everyone was hyping and doomposting about before SD came about. It's why I don't really mind the existence of open source SD. It's giving some of the power back to the people instead of everything being controlled by google's spycraft machine.

>> No.6244739

>>6244728
SD is using open source to hide the ethically repugnant shit they are doing behind the curtain

>> No.6244748

>>6244728
Artists like RJ Palmer are setting their complaints at Stable Diffusion instead other AIs exactly because it's completely unmoderated though. Whereas moderated AIs there's the possibility of requesting your work to be removed from their dataset. They also typically keep track of the creation steps your generation went through, ie if the img2img source used came from a copyrighted source or not.

There's also the ethical concerns which the dev has been criticise for. You can't make AI generations of public figures brutally murdered, or CP in Dall-E or Midjourney. In SD you can

For last but not least important, this pretty much sums up the nature and final intent of the project since the dev was coming from this
>>>/g/thread/88331184

>> No.6244751

>>6244748
>>>/g/88331184 *

>> No.6244754

>>6244748
To add to this, dall-e at least try to block people imitating some living artists' styles and ip. Emad just tells people to lawyer up when they bring up unethical training data etc. (Knowing artists are 2poor to afford a lawsuit)
See
>>6242985

>> No.6245075

If the tool becomes good for just prompting and people become good at using it will still require tinkering with it for anything creative and not just derivative. You can't really imagine an entire scene with all it's details and story behind it unless it's something you've trained over the years. And by the time A.I is capable of that we are going to have some way bigger debates that dwarf what's happening now.

Those that are creative will find quickly that you have to push this thing to get something out of it that isn't just copy of an existing thing photobash. If you illustrate just anime booba or batman fanart then it's game over, this thing will eat you alive. but you could ask yourself was that particularly creative to begin with and if you should start pushing yourself harder.
Some visual interface is gonna pop up like the photoshop integration and the most pea brain who never wanted to be creative anyways will complain that it's too hard and that's that.

I have always been a shit writer, so I focused on art, but the same creative mill powers both and I don't see the point of gatekeeping creativity with technical skill, (yes recent days have been a huge ego hit)

Even if the skill appreciation is going to diminish. It's not really that different to how pro photographers feel about Instagram.
The art world has been so oversatured it's been happening gradually anyways. I wouldn't go doomer about someone being able to prompt "cyberpunk girl" how is that any different to just searching it on google if you don't specify what you want, The human imagination can be limitless but I would seriously doubt you can build an entire coherent scene just on the fly in your head if you've never trained that skill by engaging with art in any form.

If this was your job I feel sorry for you but the warning signs have been there for years. You were always going to be a starving artist and would been fool to think othervise. That's not that far from unemployed and destitute.

>> No.6245122

>>6244748
Good. Nothing should be regulated.

>> No.6245351

>>6245122
Open Source the means of production and I can consider your proposal.

>> No.6245369

>>6244739
Can't really expect much better from a company that is staffed entirely of trannies, furries, and other assorted queers, and run by a pajeet scammer who is being bankrolled behinds the scenes by Big Tech while pretending he funds it all out of pocket.

Repugnant behavior comes from repugnant people.

>> No.6245376

>>6244700
Best case scenario is the only free open source models are shit, and the really advanced models are kept behind a paywall.
I don't care if Google builds the greatest AI ever that can replace any artist. As long as they won't let it do porn then humans are safe.

>> No.6245385

>>6245369
Anyone ever wonder why the stability cluster was given to them by amazon? Ever wonder why that company is trying to get every open source AI developer to use their compute for free and promising rainbows? Use your brains:

https://onezero.medium.com/open-source-betrayed-industry-leaders-accuse-amazon-of-playing-a-rigged-game-with-aws-67177bc748b7

That Emad guy is basically a pied piper getting everyone into the stability system so they can steal all the tech (which is based on theft to begin with) as a way to compete with OpenAI. It's a big giant scam behind the curtain, and super powerful people are making sure all the open source AI people get corralled into a central place so they can be controlled.

>> No.6245391

>>6245385
Somehow there's always something that makes me hate Amazon more than I already do.

>> No.6245400

>>6244444
>>6244475
>RAPE
>YOU ARE RAPING ME
>STOP PROMPTING NOW!

Good lord you fags are hilarious. Meanwhile on /g/ we all have a good time with this.

>> No.6245429

The weird thing about the AI is that even the prompts are satanic.
You can just say “anime girl holding a peach” you have to say “anime girl, peach, stunning illustration, beautiful, 4k, hyper-realistic, trending on artstation, trending on twitter, art by greg rutowski, award winning” filling up the proompt with all this globohomo shit.
It’s like the NWO wants to normalize the idea of uttering forbidden incantations.

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>>6238081
Uh, so I found OP pic on this guy’s artstation.
Is this AI or not?
Does it even matter anymore?

>> No.6245448

>>6245444
boza is a hack

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>>6245429
>uttering forbidden incantations.
>Not praying to the machine spirit to give you artwork

NGMI

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>>6245429
I think I did devil-worship wrong

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>>6244444
>>6245429
Holly shit this is some /pol/ level take your meds level of shit/schizo posting. I can get the trolling and doom posting is obnoxious but I would counter that by stop getting baited and sage/report and have something of skin (more on that).
The AI has NO IP whatsoever in its model (unless you count names), names are simple word associations so the user has a meaningful language to communicate with the AI. At no step in the process does the AI take a single pixel of an existing work to its own. Knowing this you now realize the AI isn't a "lel funny image generator" but actual first and foremost a language interpreter with image generation being a side effect output.

Also the biggest problem with /ic/ right now (and other art communities) is that you are all (generalization*) absolutely terrified of failure. You are so terrified that you actually ACTIVELY convince other people to stop before they even begin not realizing that is not how you learn. Your inability to critique yourself and others is bound your own emotional limitations. The AI is winning (or at least you think it is) because it has no ego or ambition it simply does what it thinks it's *right* and then if it fails or is wrong LEARNS from it's mistake and continues on. This is just with art it even goes into non-abstract occupations and skills, the techbros and the AI mogg you because they have a system that allows to improve on their failure from an objective POV.

>> No.6245458

>>6245444
>is this ai?
take a look at his other work, see if you can guess which is ai and which isn't

>> No.6245465

>>6245444
the image's actual url is https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/053/085/127/large/jozef-boza-if-you-want-a-picture-of-the-future-imagine-a-proompter-prompting-a-human-face-forever.jpg?1661376266
so it's probably ai gen

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>>6245457
>Also the biggest problem with /ic/ right now (and other art communities) is that you are all (generalization*) absolutely terrified of failure. You are so terrified that you actually ACTIVELY convince other people to stop before they even begin not realizing that is not how you learn. Your inability to critique yourself and others is bound your own emotional limitations. The AI is winning (or at least you think it is) because it has no ego or ambition it simply does what it thinks it's *right* and then if it fails or is wrong LEARNS from it's mistake and continues on. This is just with art it even goes into non-abstract occupations and skills, the techbros and the AI mogg you because they have a system that allows to improve on their failure from an objective POV.
Welcome to /ic/, newfriend.
Here's your free big titty anime girl and the utter and absolute disgust for artists will come a bit later.

>> No.6245477

>>6245472
Not new i'm a trad hobbyist painter that just uses AI to fuck around with.

>> No.6245484

>>6245477
I see no utter and absolute disgust for artists. You're new.

>> No.6245496

>>6245457
I mean. I'm going to pursue more of just interesting character design ideas and other stuff. Mastering linework and rendering is gonna be meaningless. But unless the booba is not attached to an interesting character design it's not going to impress me nor has it for a long while already.

>> No.6245509

>>6245444
Yeah, It's 2 AI, one for the generation, and one for fixing the face(ARC's face restoration AI, possibly run through it a few times)

>> No.6245515

>>6245457
>LEARNS from it's mistake
You think that's how the AI "learns" but it doesn't.
It doesn't learn shit from you simply feeding it prompts. It was trained once on a dataset and it will forever stay the same.
Until a new version of the AI is trained on a larger dataset of course.

>> No.6245522

>>6245515
yes, the model itself doesn't learn (although that might be changing very soon). Still doesn't change the fact the AI isn't doctoring images.

>> No.6245529

>>6245522
It doesn't remember what it has put out, it has no concept of memory.

The irony for prompters being that when it can understand stuff like a human it's agi and you are just getting commissions from a robot, not something you could even claim you made yourself.

>> No.6245545

>>6245529
>not something you could even claim you made yourself.
AI is literally a tool like photoshop you retard. There is even going to be a Stable Diffusion plugin for photoshop. But let me guess you're one of those
>NOOO IT'S NOT YOURS UNLESS YOU DRAW THE LINES YOURSELF! retards
Most artists are going to use it in the future. Cope all you want.

>> No.6245547

>>6245457
Bitch, you don't have any fucking clue how these models work, sit the fuck down.

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>>6245547
I mean if you want go down a series of if/else statements then sure. From a macro POV they are a series of nodes similar to what you find in Blender and other graphic design tools, just billions of them emulating a neural net.

>> No.6245560

>>6245545
>Most artists are going to use it in the future.
I'm literally planning to.

All I'm saying is it cannot understand human concepts in a human way till it's self-aware at which point it is the artist.

>> No.6245960

>>6244258
That image you posted is pretty impressive ngl. Can someone explain to me how does this AI magic work? Explain it to me like I am 11yo or an Somalian. T Grug

>> No.6245978

>>6244250
Yeah it sounds like taking everything you got in the fridge and put them in the mixer.

>> No.6246160

>>6245960
https://rentry.org/GUItard

A deep learning algorithm takes a billion images as data points then regurgitates them from a blender depending on your parameters (prompt).

>> No.6246192

>>6245960
makes a shitload of gaussian noise and then iteratively unscrambles it into an image based on images it has seen before in it's training set.

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>>6245444
wtf, is he making these images from a bomb shelter?

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goodnight cats

>> No.6246263

You got couple of good ones, no need to spam the rest.

I need to stop seething and get a new GPU, ain't no way I'm gonna generate what I need any other way.

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>> No.6246274

>>6246272
>the upper head-hand changes
easy fix
>the neck changes
easy fix

not even masking/blocking, which would make it even more consistent

>> No.6246361

>>6246235
Right on the border of Slovakia, probably safe there? idk

>> No.6246541

>>6244748
Wait until you hear about notebooks. Someone in our neighborhood might have copied whole passages from copyrighted books, written about public figures being brutally murdered and CP smut in one and we would never even know. Some even draw sketches based entirely other people's IPs. It's mind boggling that we still allow access to them without even so much as a background check.

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>>6244353
If they kill all of the humans and only keep slaves/AI who will buy all the massive amounts of products they create using said slave workers and AI? How will the elite make the money to keep themselves rich if there is nobody to buy? If you kill all poor people and leave rich elite people around you are not rich anymore since only the elite remains and everyone else is rich around you.

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>>6246912
Hear me out, what if instead of fighting the AI or the AI becoming hostile and killing humans or the elite not needing poor people, we instead become *one* with the AI?
Where the needs of the self are the needs of everyone.

>> No.6246958

>>6246235
Pretending to be ukrainian is the new pretending to be a girl. Both give a substantial social media boost.

>> No.6246978

>>6246958
Does it actually work?

>> No.6246990

Prompt engineering will be automated

https://github.com/hlky/sd-enable-textual-inversion

>> No.6246992

Also, market for selling prompts: https://promptbase.com/

I wish I was joking

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>>6246978
of course it works!

>> No.6247007

>>6246992
are there any SD lewd prompts for sale?

>> No.6247017

>>6246954
I ain't becoming a hive mind. Sharing my brains and thoughts and feelings with another man? What am I Gay?

>>6245455
So many people cumming their pants over AI and it's future and how apparently all artists jobs will be gone by yesterday, and these hacks can't even get the ai to not draw porn.

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>>6245457
Looks nice, but is blurry and unfocused. Kinda feels amateurish because of it.

>>6245472
Almost seems good, but the more you look at it, the more minor details you notice that are totally awful. Also, it looks so much like a copy of another character, but that's anime for you I guess?

>>6245559
Good. Odd clouds, and there's a random moon. Also it seems to go from the realistic to more sloppy and slightly abstract; it serves its purpose though (still some random thing that need to be fixed though)

>>6246230 to >>6246258
I dig the little figure look, but the faces and little details are just too screwed up to say any one of the pieces is good unfortunately.

>>6246272
Not to my taste, but feels very cohesive and doesn't suffer from the weird distorted details other works have. I like the dada like background

>> No.6247021

>>6246990
all those weeks learning how to prompt...
it's over....

>> No.6247026

>>6247021
kek

>> No.6247030

>>6247021
>all those weeks learning how to prompt...
Look at the bright side anon, now you can proompt for fun as a hobby, just like how we artists will continue to draw.

You also gained the invaluable life skills that I'm sure proompting gave you.

>> No.6247046

>>6247021
AI can't really replicate a good prompt though. There's a creative aspect to it that you can't just bruteforce, every prompt has the prompter's heart and soul behind it. It'll just be a tool for prompters to make even better prompts with.

>> No.6247048

>>6247021
HAHA, pesky elitist prompters gatekeeping art get what they fucking deserve

>> No.6247051

>>6247046
it's over proompter. cope or rope

>> No.6247059

>>6247046
>every prompt has the prompter's heart and soul behind it. It'll just be a tool for prompters to make even better prompts with.
Only human made proompts have SOUL, all AI made proompts are NO SOUL! The audience will tell and reject Proompts with NO SOUL!

>> No.6247089

>>6245458
I really can't tell the difference anymore.. Looks like 90% of her work is A.I. generated.

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>>6246958
Guy is actually a Russian.

>> No.6247450

>>6247440
just like Proko. they are attacking us on all lines lads. this needs to stop now!

>> No.6247470

>take screenshot of an image
>textual inversion

Promptbros... we got too cocky... first nft's... now prompts... why is world so cruel!

>> No.6247491

>>6247470
What if I change one pixel smartass?

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>>6247440
\pol\ draw fren here. These rats are going to pay. We are sending drones. All these years of drawing.. Fuck you

>> No.6247710

>>6247686
who was in the wrong here and why are left Russians killing left russians?

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>>6247089
>her

>> No.6248871

new thread; >>6248869

>> No.6249165

>>6247686
>trying to get a clean pan to make a scruble eggs for comrades
>end up as a scrubbed egg himself
That's some george lucas poterry right here

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THERE ARE CURRENTLY 9 ACTIVE THREADS ABOUT AI IN THIS PIECE OF SHIT BOARD.

NINE

9




>>6238081
>>6247230
>>6245092
>>6246848
>>6244480
>>6245315
>>6245562
>>6247885
>>6249129

Here is a picture of a Janitor sleeping I made with AI, to participate in this wonderful thread.

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who can resist bumping an ai thread with some "goodnight cats" in it

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>>6249175
cool

>> No.6250256

>>6249175
about to be 12 after i make new